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Bills vs Texans DFS Showdown | Week 12 TNF | NFL Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Tyler j Emmeline here aka Totag and Tambo back for
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  Speaker 1: got hoop here with me as all. I'm gonna break
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  Speaker 1: down all things bills at the Texans good total, decent enough,
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  Speaker 1: close enough spread. We've tried to underestimate these bills before
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  Speaker 1: and then they are overestimate them, I should say, and
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  Speaker 1: they go out and get beat. So we'll see how
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  Speaker 1: this game goes. But who is gonna bring you in first?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a fun one here. I think this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a good game. What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Can you guys see me? I'm showing like a black
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  Speaker 2: screen here.
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  Speaker 1: I can see you, got you, but I don't see me.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny. Can you see me?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like fully blacked out, it must be I can
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  Speaker 4: see all you and me lucky title, I see black screen.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know what's gonna maybe and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know this is something's going on. Can you guys see me?
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  Speaker 2: I can see you, all right, as long as you
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  Speaker 2: guys can hear I don't know. I guess we'll continue on.
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  Speaker 2: All right, there we go.
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  Speaker 4: We'll just we'll figure out something to put there in
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  Speaker 4: the U in the middle. You know there's something going
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  Speaker 4: on with a stream art for sure, but uh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean big, relatively big spread here in the game. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: they just Bills in and Stroud out. I would have
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  Speaker 4: liked to see Stroud in make it a little more interesting.
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  Speaker 4: The Bills favored by I don't know about six. And
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  Speaker 4: to me, this is like a tough game. And we've
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  Speaker 4: seen these games so many times where it's the Bills
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  Speaker 4: facing off against a team that just doesn't have a
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  Speaker 4: ton of offensive pieces. They're pretty big favorites here, and
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  Speaker 4: these are tough ones to figure out for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing I can say, like the winning team
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  Speaker 4: probably looks somewhat ugly.
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  Speaker 2: I think at the end of the night.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of you know, random names
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  Speaker 4: in play here. No Dalton Kincaid on the Texan side,
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  Speaker 4: just a few guys. Do you have my guy, Dalton Schultzo.
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  Speaker 4: Dalton Schultz is looking nice, continues to wrack up all
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  Speaker 4: those targets, the Bills, pass catchers, you know, who the
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  Speaker 4: hell is it going to be?
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to be? Is this Tyrrell Shaver's guy?
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  Speaker 2: Like a fantasy asset.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see you, we'll talk through it, But like this
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  Speaker 4: late for me, and I hope you guys can add
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  Speaker 4: some clarity. I'm struggling to find captains that I want
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  Speaker 4: to play. Like, obviously you can play Josh Allen, Obviously
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  Speaker 4: you can play James Cook. Nico Collins is always going
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  Speaker 4: to be a viable option. But after some of these
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  Speaker 4: household names, I do think it gets pretty difficult. And
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  Speaker 4: you're probably, you know, looking for a short and certain
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  Speaker 4: sort of game if going to some of these other captains.
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  Speaker 4: So that's Ryan need helped and I figured out some
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  Speaker 4: of these other captains.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get to that in a little bit here. Title,
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring you in first man, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing this week, doing well, solid game.
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  Speaker 5: I mean yeah, the Bill's only favored by five and
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  Speaker 5: a half coming off of phenomenal performance by him against
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  Speaker 5: a backup quarterback and Mills. So I think Vegas has
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  Speaker 5: shown some respect to the Texans defense, to them being
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  Speaker 5: at home, to Thursdays being a lot of chaos.
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  Speaker 3: It was six.
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  Speaker 5: Earlier today too, So a little money on the Houston side.
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  Speaker 5: No Kean Coleman again, some other beat up receivers in
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  Speaker 5: the Bills room, I mean yeah, Shavers unfortunately like the role.
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  Speaker 5: Actually it was fine last week. I mean the advanced
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  Speaker 5: stats and stuff. You looked really good on the field. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: the price is low. I wanted him to be like
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  Speaker 5: the floorinee, like put him at five k and just
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  Speaker 5: where people don't want to spend that money, get him
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  Speaker 5: low owned. For sure that's not the case, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: still fourteen percent. Maybe just comes up a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, one of those interesting Bill slates, different than
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  Speaker 5: most where they are going to be the value on
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  Speaker 5: the slate because of the beat up receiver room, with
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  Speaker 5: how many guys are rotating in, they're all cheap outside
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  Speaker 5: of Shakir and no Kincaid.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, this is just nuts. I apologize. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what else to tell everybody, but let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's help Hoop try and pick some of these captains.
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  Speaker 1: It's insane. Just drive me absolutely nuts. We're gonna change
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  Speaker 1: providers in a minute. I'm getting so pissed off. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about this title. Start with you. We've got quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: We've got the Josh Allen scenario. This is kind of
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  Speaker 1: to me the opposite of the other night where we
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  Speaker 1: did not work out, but my pickings play worked out
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  Speaker 1: quite nicely and the main premise of the Gino thing.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll have these conversations tonight as well as when
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at a captain pool, it's not really about
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  Speaker 1: the pick, it's about the concept. Bowers was owned as
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  Speaker 1: much as he was because of price. It was yes,
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  Speaker 1: he's brought Bowers, Yes he can have a good game.
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  Speaker 1: It's one single slate, et cetera, et cetera. But we
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  Speaker 1: just knew he was gonna be twenty percent up top,
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  Speaker 1: which he was not even near twenty percent to be optimal.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit different tonight because we don't have many
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  Speaker 1: optimal type captains. Everyone's sort of like ten percent or less.
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  Speaker 1: And then Josh Allen just popping off the page title.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll go to you give me your thoughts. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's kind of what you got
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  Speaker 1: to look at when you're looking at this type of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if who keeps pressing buttons or not,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just tilting the shit out of me. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just leave it all right, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good on mine, and it seems like it's
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  Speaker 5: good for everyone watching at least, But we got Hoop
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  Speaker 5: and Tampa tilted.
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  Speaker 2: Over there right on, I mean ultimate tilt right now, Like.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost funny to me. I get to watch these
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  Speaker 3: two on tilt.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone in Screa.
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  Speaker 1: Hoop can't see himself right now, but yeah, I'm hosting.
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  Speaker 1: It's so hard when it's like zing zing zing zing
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  Speaker 1: zing zing and then I'm not seeing it. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: just make it stay. I wish it would just last.
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  Speaker 1: It's great.
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  Speaker 2: I can't see you now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all I can see is the title has been
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  Speaker 4: unfazed in the bottom left.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just actually laughing.
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  Speaker 5: I'm loving the tilt. I can I can feel the energy.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I really don't have much hot takes at
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  Speaker 5: the captain spot. James Cook, Josh Allen on the bill side,
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  Speaker 5: and Nico Collins, who has been a monster with Davis Mills,
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  Speaker 5: Woody Marks who's overtaking Nick Chubb. And then I'll throw
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  Speaker 5: in a little Dalton Schultz as well because he's in
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  Speaker 5: a different price range than the rest of them. But
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  Speaker 5: I really can't make a case for anyone else. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: their bills keep rotating receivers. They played two tight ends.
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  Speaker 5: There's no like back got running back to talk about Texanside,
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  Speaker 5: They're applied for a lot less points. They also are
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  Speaker 5: mixing in different receivers, like if you want to take
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  Speaker 5: a shot at Jayden Higgins, sure, Like maybe that's my
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  Speaker 5: next guy. I'm gonna keep it short in the captain
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  Speaker 5: spot though, and I can get over eight on all
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  Speaker 5: of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing that's interesting, Hoop is just the setup
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  Speaker 1: of when we've seen these slates before, it's usually a
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs or a home slate or something. And Josh Allen's popular.
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  Speaker 1: We see that he is hard to stack, but that's
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  Speaker 1: a benefit in showdown right, because like you said, you
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  Speaker 1: just get to sort of spin the roulette wheel. And
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  Speaker 1: I know you've done certain slates like this and done
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  Speaker 1: well with them where you're like, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna try and get crazy up top. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: play Josh Allen. There's so many options I can pute
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  Speaker 1: with them. There's so many ways that I can play.
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  Speaker 1: I can move around, I can leave a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: money all these different factors. Is that kind of how
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing it. I know he said you need help
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  Speaker 1: pickt some other ones, but who else outside of that?
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  Speaker 1: And then how do you see it? As a whole.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean probably not anyone else.
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  Speaker 4: And just know that I'm gonna have more combinations than
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the field, and uh, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: josh Allen, it's gonna be James Cook, Nico Collins, and
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  Speaker 4: I do I don't mind adding Dalton Schultz. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you obviously don't have to twist my arm to give
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  Speaker 4: me to play more Dalton Schultz. So maybe a little
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  Speaker 4: bit biased, but he's getting just a he's getting Pepper,
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  Speaker 4: just a ton of targets, and if they are playing
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  Speaker 4: from behind, it could just be all him and Nico.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel pretty good about Schultz as well. But
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  Speaker 4: I just don't wanna. I mean, you need volume, like
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  Speaker 4: you're definitely gonna need some volume, and I just don't
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  Speaker 4: see the volume out of any of these guys. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the Bills pass catchers now, just so many random dudes
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  Speaker 4: coming in and out.
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  Speaker 2: I gave Davis back in the mix.
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  Speaker 4: They got this uh sh Shavers guy, they got you know,
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  Speaker 4: I already said had multiple tight ends. They'll use Joshua
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  Speaker 4: Palmer and then on the texanside, just don't see it
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  Speaker 4: being anyone outside of Nico or Dalton Schultz. I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to play Woody Mark's up top, so it's probably
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  Speaker 4: just going to be those four and again I'll have
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  Speaker 4: more of all four of those guys and more combinations,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, hopefully that's the winning captain that you need.
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  Speaker 4: And even more so on FanDuel when we get there.
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  Speaker 4: I just really struggled to make the case for anyone
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  Speaker 4: outside of Allen, James Cook, and I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe throw Nico Collins in there, but it's it's difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing that's crazy too is even with like
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  Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen for example, just at the premium
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  Speaker 1: ownership and everything that we're talking about, is because it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the slate plays out, like really like,
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  Speaker 1: if it's a super low scoring slate, it still could
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  Speaker 1: be he's the points for their side. If it's a
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  Speaker 1: super high scoring slate, it's like him and he's spread
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  Speaker 1: it out to five different people and ran one or
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  Speaker 1: two in. It's like he's gonna be very likely to
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  Speaker 1: be up top regardless of how you look at things.
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  Speaker 1: So I will say one thing title, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: love me some Woody Marx this season definitely up a
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  Speaker 1: few bucks on Woody Mark, so I think he's interesting
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  Speaker 1: on the other side, just because it is a running
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  Speaker 1: back that flips the build you mentioned. Higgins obviously Collins.
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  Speaker 1: I think of those three for sure, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to save the money, it's probably Dalton versus Dawson, whether
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  Speaker 1: you're selecting a tight end or not. But it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be really hard to figure out with Palm or Davis
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  Speaker 1: Shavers all those guys, and I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: more likely that I'm pushing them into Josh Allen captain
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  Speaker 1: builds where they're already gonna be different enough with guys
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  Speaker 1: like Ty Johnson, Palmer, Davis Shaver's knocks like you can
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  Speaker 1: mix all those guys into your Josh Allen Captains and
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  Speaker 1: just leave it from there. I also think we got
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  Speaker 1: to think about mixing some classic with showdown thoughts. And
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  Speaker 1: this is very you know, results oriented recency bias of
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  Speaker 1: you know, on Sunday when everybody stacked Jo who did
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  Speaker 1: stack Josh Allen did not get there because they stacked
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  Speaker 1: him and you needed just to play him naked or
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  Speaker 1: him with Sean Tucker on the other side of that game.
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  Speaker 1: That would be like the perfect setup. So maybe there
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  Speaker 1: is something to Josh Allen with one and building like
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  Speaker 1: a two four. I know one fives and people play
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  Speaker 1: these and they're fine. I just think they're more built,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: and from my back testing and researching and digging into
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: showdown slates, they're much better in smaller fields like two
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: hundred or less. You can play a one five because
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: it's it's not that you can't play it and mains
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: on the big slate or on the lottery, but it's
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: more likely someone found the two four that has you
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: beat than it is the other way. So just noting that,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I think there is some interesting two fours with Josh
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Allen up top title. Anything else you want to add it, Captain,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: If not, you could take us into more thoughts around
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Davis Mills and Josh Allen than anything else you want
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: to go from there.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: Running back, yeah, I think one five would be bad
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: on this slate for the sense of like, I mean,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: five to one bills and four to two bills is
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: the popular bill just because they're the value on top
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: of the James Cook Josh Allen studs. You want his favorites.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: So if you're playing a three to three even that's
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: different in itself definitely, A two to four is different.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: I could see that working. Definitely would have Josh or
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: James Cook. Probably Josh though in those two four Bills,
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: just because those two can do so much of it. Also,
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe I'll get a little Shavers a captain.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: I've been going back and forth like his separate analytics
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: was off the charts. I've been calling for this guy
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: since the beginning of the year. My buddy's a Bills
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: fan too, He's always watching like Keon's been dust all year.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: The Shavers dude is actually good. The problem is they're
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: still rotating in Shakir Josh Palmer. It was Samuel last
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: week now he's out. But more we'll be in Gabe
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: Davis like there's still enough bodies there where. I don't
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: love it, but he'll be a little owning the flex.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: I don't hate it up top quarterbacks, not really like
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Davis Mills. I'm not really gonna play in that Captain
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: maybe zero, but he's forty percent in the flex. He'll
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: sling it if they get from behind. I got like
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: him and Josh look good there. I'll probably play more
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen on Eric captain and be underweight the flex.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's kind of how I go about
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen slats still no hot take there, and you
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: want me to go to running back or stop there.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Well you can go to running back in a second.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that. So that's interesting because I
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: think it's more likely I'll be still underweight Allen at
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the captain. But I would definitely play him in the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: flex because of how much he fits. Like I said,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: he's game script independent like it just if it's not enough,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: it could be a low scoring game, but he still
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: threw the touchdowns to Shakir or something like that and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: it ends up being that. So I would you know,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I would look at that a little bit differently, but
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I think I get it and like it sets it
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: up for how it goes. It's Davis Mills. It's a
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: little bit trickier, but because he's still a quarterback at
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: just fourteen to four, it's does that four thousand dollars
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: well forty two hundred dollars from him to Alan do anything.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: It's it's just the optimal difference. So I could definitely
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: see where you're coming from there. Anything else, yeah, go.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Ahead, I just don't I just don't want to click
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: other names at captain is kind of what it comes
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: down to, like, like, I just it's hard for me
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: to click Mills Palmer like I.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm mis naturally just gonna jam jam the studs.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I think I like the Cook call that you had
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: there too. Just to finish it out like that would
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: be another thing. So yeah, go go ahead into running back.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Cook, you can talk about him. They've got
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Ty Johnson, Ray Davis. The other side is Woody Marx
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: kind of taken over. But the Bills do give up
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns on the on the ground, like
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to the running back, and so I could still see
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Chubb being valuable in the flex here tonight too. What's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on these running back rooms.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, James Cook, Woody marks pretty much. I mean, if
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Chubb is eleven percent at a real price of thirty
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: two hundred, I think that's probably one of the worst
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: plays on the slate even a touchdown. Still not even
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: sure he gets there. I'd rather play Ty Johnson for
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: almost half the ownership for just two hundred more. I mean,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: he can catch at least a couple passes out of
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: the backfield. He clearly has taken over the running back
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: two role. So yeah, I mean, I don't love Tye
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: or Nick Chubb, but I do like Woody Marx and
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: James Cook a lot. If you're playing a lot of teams, though,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: don't x out with the RV twos.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I like that call. Like a Nick
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Chubb anytime touchdown is probably a better way to go
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: about it than at thirty two hundred. If he actually
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: gets there on this slate, like, it's going to require
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of things. But again, it's not how off
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you're right, it's how much when you are right, like
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you say, so it's possible. But I agree on that.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: The other thing that's interesting on the other side, and hoop,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you. On this Ty Johnson thirty
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: four hundred, it's not really about him versus Chubb because
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: no one's playing Chubb or ten percent are playing Chubb.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. But nobody's really talking about
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Ty Johnson and he's priced right between Shavers, Davis, you know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: just below Palmer. It doesn't mean he's better than them.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: They project better and they should. But in this type
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of slate, we just saw it wasn't it last week
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: when he threw one down the sidelines to Ty Johnson
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to the house or whatever, Like that's anything's possible with
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a guy like him and the way they're using him.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So I definitely think it's more interesting that he comes
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: in at the similar price point to where the you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty percent guys could be, and he's down
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: at like six to ten percent, let's say, or maybe
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: he gets to ten. It's not that much, So hoop,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I'll go to you, James Cook, Woody Marx, the rest
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of the running backs. What do you got there?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: In on Cook, in on Marx. I mean, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Cook is a little expensive at eleven four. But you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: we've seen these slates a lot, and it's usually when
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: when the bills are favored and in a good spot
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: and put up the point, it's like it has to
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: be most likely one of Josh Allen or James Cook
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: that you need in some way, shape or form. So
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: if you're into setting rules, I wouldn't be opposed to that,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: like setting a rule to have uh, you know, Josh
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Allen captain flex, James Cook captain flex at least one
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: of that on all your teams. I'd be fine with that, honestly,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Like this what he Mark's good with him. I mean,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: gonna get all the work. I think the price takes
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: fair for a guy getting all the work At nine
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: to two, Ty Johnson over Nick Chubb by a lot
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: for me when building teams, I don't think it's particularly
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: close and ownership. I did want to pull that up.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: It's looking like more to Chubb we have. I hope that.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I really hope that's the case because I'll just flip
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: that in one hundred and fifty and get more Ty
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Johnson over Nick Chubb. So that's kind of how I
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: see it. Nothing, nothing really crazy at the running back position.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my man's stat I know he's in come on
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and do a show with us here soon for the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: takedown breakdown. I did a show with him last Thanksgiving,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but he says, you're TD hunting with Tdy Johnson doesn't
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: have a game all season with four touches. The one
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: thing I like about stat is we disagree on a lot,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: so it's good for a nice and back and forth camaraderie.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Is like, I don't care the rest of the season
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I mean it's Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: It's it's hard to really say that because we're playing
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: a one game slate like your TD. You'r TD hunting
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: with everybody that you're playing, like every single person you
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: roster tonight, you need them to score a TD in
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: some way, shape or form. So yeah, that's sort argument
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: is just way more applicable on main slates to me
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: than a showdown slate. Like, yes, like you probably if
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: you're playing an offensive guy tonight, you probably has to
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: score a touchdown.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I also think it's more it's because I even
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: teased it, like he at least he got to catch
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: last week and last week has nothing to do with
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: this week. In the exact same tone, I don't want
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to change gears on you talking about both sides. I'm
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: talking mostly about slate dynamics and Daily Fantasy being that,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: like we just said, it's night only, that's all I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: care about is tonight. But the slate dynamics are a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: couple things. One, it's about everyone landing on a guessing
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: game of Gabe Davis, Shavers, whoever else they decide to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: use in that range. He could be a guy that
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: fills in there. And then also Houston does have a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: pretty good defense. If they are getting after Josh Allen
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: or they're coming at him, it could be some dump
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: offs there or different things that we could see him
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: used in. So I'm just taking the opportunity. It's not
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some crazy overweight stance. I just sort
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: of like when we go through these position by positions
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to get ideas of what would work and then try
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and apply it towards how is everybody else playing the game?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Because we're playing a game against them, Nobody knows who's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: gonna score the touchdowns tonight or anything until it happens.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: That's the DFS for you. Just like last week with
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the Sean Tucker game, I went off on my rant
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: for yesterday. Everyone tilting Sean Tucker like, no one, Adam,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: he didn't, he didn't hurt you. I use my example
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of like a hundred people in a room and some
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: walk out. The Sean Tucker room had one hundred people
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in it. They said, who's playing him? One guy chopped
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: his arm off, and then they all walked out and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: point won. His little piece of arm stayed in the room,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and that was it, and it was useless. As your
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Sean Tucker lineup. So that tells you all you need
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to know about that. So go back to you hoop.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Let's move to the wide receiver room. Still a lot
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to talk about here, but Keon Coleman expected to be
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: out the news. The most recent is like here or
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: four hours ago said it's going to be the scratch again,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: is what we're expecting to see. So that tells you everything.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I saw an interview actually speaking of Shavers, who title
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: brought up earlier with Kay Adams a little bit earlier,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm the big bro. That's my little bro.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this stuff. He's acting crazy. He's like, we
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: got to keephim in line a little bit was clearly
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: can't show up to the team meetings a la CD
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Lamb and Pickens. But shit, maybe they should let Keon
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Coleman in the game. CD and Pickens set for one
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: drive and then had huge games. So who knows. Maybe
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that's the secret.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Was that was the CD lamp story. Was that legit
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: about the casino thing or is that just like a rumor.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Red Brox, I'm guessing yeah, multiple Oh yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I think true in Vegas, I mean yeah.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: For sure. I just that's the only report I saw.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I was like, well, if this is true, I'd assume
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, what else are they getting benched for?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about me. If it's true, where's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the picture, Like, there's no way. I'm at a casino
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and I see CD lamb puking and I'm not taking
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: enough to tell.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: I mean he probably, I mean, he probably locked himself
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: in the bathroom, puked, came out and what are you gonna, hey, buddy,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: ready for the game.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's just like puke and like.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I'm getting that bag real quick off, CD, yo, you
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: on this up.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: But again, I have no I didn't see a confirmation.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I didn't see a full pick, but why else did
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: they don't just randomly get benched the first drive?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: But he's too good to be benched all game.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm clearly checks that happened.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, really, I mean they should be looking to
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: do that maybe more often. It's the best game the
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Cowboys played all season by a wide margin. Yes, it
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: was against the Raiders, who sucked, but they they bawled
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: out for sure. So that is a good story. Though
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: we've all been there, man, not before an NFL game
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: not before an NFL game, that's for sure.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: All right, where are we at wide receivers?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know who, but you're winning a million tonight
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: when there's not a million up top on any contest,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: so that's gonna be huge.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I guess I might do something a little bit different.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I gotta find get in the p L streets with
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: the title and play all unique.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: You can lose a million.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: You gotta have all pure unique lineups and take down
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: like first through fifth or six or whatever, six unique
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: lineups all finished in the top six or something.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I'm pumped up though, because whatever you just clicked on
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: brought my screens back.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: So now I'm actually really really excited.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I can now whatever you click the comment, and as
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: soon as you click that comment, like I'm I'm back
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: in action.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I can see everything.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: So I'm feeling I'm feeling good again.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Got no clue.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I'm literally watching let's go, let's see Tama.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Back for like two seconds. I'm so beyond tilted it's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: not even funny. So I'm going again.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It's all going to keep a comment up. Maybe not.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I wish I wish the secret button. I would do
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: this once a month and get him go and trust Yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: There we go. I'm good. Let's not click out anything
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the rest of the show. How about that? Does that work?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: That would work?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It works.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Never touch a button if it is title? Did it?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Now? Who hands up and Jack?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Look?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Title? Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I was typing and chat responding to this dude as soon.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: As he chatted.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: That's what it is. Any sort of click this is wild.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Why have you sived a lot of options? You know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Nico Collins. I mean I kind of want to say,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: you look at all these options, He's probably the only safe,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: secure option.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Like I'm the slate.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: You know, he's getting a bunch of targets wide receiver,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: one massive upside after that, it's wide open. I mean,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I want to say Shakira is safe. But we saw
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: last week, like even with Kean Coleman out, Like, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I had a ton of shakier and probably cost me
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: a shit ton of money last week, But three targets,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: like three targets Coleman's out, like did absolutely nothing. That's
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: somewhat concerning. I mean, showdown for sure tonight, I'm going
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: to be interested. But man, just what did he even
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: finish which with a catch like he had one catch
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: for negative three yards, so he had point seven fantasy points.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Pretty concerning.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Palmer, you know, Shavers, you know, title kind of said
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: he wished the price was a little bit higher. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: greek because he's going to be popular at twenty four hundred,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: but maybe he's the guy moving forward. So I think
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: you almost have to embrace it. It's not like he's over
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: the top popular, not like, you know, thirty forty percent.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Probably we're showing and what.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Do we got?
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have it too low at fourteen. Savers shown twenty.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: A round twenty could come up a little bit. But
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I almost have to embrace it on the slate, So
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I'm good with him. You know, some gave Davis Elijah Moore.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: There's so many options. That is the one nice thing
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: about Josh Allen captain teams. You have so many different
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: guys to pair them with, so many different combinations, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: we haven't even got the tight end yet. So you
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: got Shakira, you got Palmer, Shavers gave Davis Elijah Moore.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Can play with all those guys on the Houston side,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little more difficult. You already talked
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: about Nico obviously, the wide receiver, one safest wide receiver
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: on the slate, but you're paying the premium at eleven
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: two Higgins and Christian Kirk Hutchinson. So a lot of
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: guys here, I mean a lot of them are going
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: to bust you and throw Noel in the mix. Like
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: there is a lot of downside to these wide receivers,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Like there's no way, like how many did I rattle
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: off that have like a decent projection one, two, three, four, six, seven, eight, nine,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: ten or probably full out bust I would say, So,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, very low floors for a lot of these
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: guys makes it pretty difficult. But again it all comes
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: on to roster construction and how you're building with these guys.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: But you know, Shavers definitely stands out, you know, coming
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: off the big game. You know, maybe he's the one
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: that Josh Allen starts to lean into a little bit,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: but you know, the prices is a little bit too cheap,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: and you know he's going to get some ownership, but
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: it's you know, this is the spot to come to
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: for value for sure. A lot of different options, a
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: lot of downside as well here.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Gabe Davis title there, He's a little
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: bit fourteen hundred more than Shavers. I know we're showing
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: similar ownership right now. How do you think that actually
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: plays out?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Shavers will. Shavers will definitely be higher
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: on than Gabe Davis. I don't know.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: I think he should be higher on, but gave Davis
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: had solid work. The problem is he doesn't have a
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: receiving prop, which is a little concerning.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: One thing too, is like, isn't Samuel and Hart like
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: whoever they brought up? Aren't two of those guys out
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: again too?
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so Samuel Hardman are out, but Elijah Moore missed
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: last game, so I'm just expecting him to slide right
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: into that Curtis Samuel role. But you played almost fifty
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: percent of snaps and Elijah Moore is all the way
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: down there at one k.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: So I got to meet Davis with a say, twenty
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: four and a half to Shavers twenty three and a half.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But you pay fourteen hundred for a yard prop. Who cares?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just you know what I mean, that's nothing.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad you said I'm looking at DraftKings. I
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: didn't see anything for him, which was a little interesting.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: I just refreshed nothing. But I'm glad you said that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: I'm fine with gay Davis. I think Shavers is just
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: the better player. He has more legs, he has more upside,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: so I lean that. But Gay Davis is a receiver
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that will be mixed in. So, like hoopsaid, four of
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: these guys might bust. I mean I might raise it
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: to like six or seven of these guys might bust.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: But that's fine. It's at their price tag. A lot
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: of these Bills guys, to be honest, my least two
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: favorite I think in the Flex are Nico and Shakir
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: because of their price takes. When you play them, you're
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: more unlikely to get Josh and James Cook and what
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: he marks, and I like them a lot. Like Nico
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: looks great, but he's eleven point two k DraftKings got
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: him right, which will keep his ownership down a little more.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: I want him to fully get there. I'm more likely
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: to play them a captain that way. Thirteen in the
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Flex might not be enough. And yeah, like Shakier's ados
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: just so low, and they have so many of these
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: other Bills receivers mixing in. I think I'd just rather
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: take the four K five six K savings and just
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: try and get these other guys right because if it
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: does payoff, they can get a little more unique. So
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: my favorite, my second favorite, or actually my favorite receiver
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: on the Texan side at price is definitely Jaden Higgins
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: though like him and Mills, he had seven targets and
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: back to back games nine fifteen DK points. If we're
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: looking at the props, he's a clear one thirty and
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: a half, which isn't great, but the next highest is
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Kirk at fourteen and a half. Hutchinson thirteen and a
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: half and a touchdown prop solid as well, so he's
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: a good rapport with Mills. He overtook the outside receiver
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: from Hutchinson spot. I think he's a good play.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I prefer Higgins to this Philly.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: The what's the other prop? I just saw to Palmer's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half. So he's right, they're all
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: right in the same They're just tossing them all in
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the same bucket. Dawson Knox when we get there's twenty
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: six and a half. Elijah Moore at eleven and a
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: half is the one that's down the board. So and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: then you've got Shakir at forty three and a half
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: is what we're seeing there, and.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Forty three is not like I mean you double the
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: like the props on all of them at their ownership
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: or at their price, you know what I mean. Like
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: forty three and a half's almost the worst one at
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: cost because he's ak and these other guys are like
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: sub five.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah's or if you just.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Find the money, which we clearly have on this slate,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you can leave six grand on the table just off
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the hop like easily just looking at these builds. And
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: then the other thing is if you get because of
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: that you have the money. It's almost seventy five for
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Nico right Like if you just want to go up there,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: him and Mills have obviously connected a bunch. There is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: something to be said. I guess going back to it
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and I'll just take it now because we're on wide
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: receiver and they I'll kick it to hoop.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: But the.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Nicoll maybe like a two four with Nico Collins up top,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: because if he just sucks up everything on that side
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and it does get spread out on the other side,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it'd be in a lower scoring game. I think that
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that would work better because then it would be the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: fact that Josh Allen doesn't still just crush and get
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: everything that goes with the passing touchdowns plus the rushing
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: plus everything, but they can get after him just a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: little bit, keep it in a bit lower scoring game.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I could definitely see that because you could afford it easily,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and then you also could get there on him getting
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: majority of the work, while on the other side it's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: completely spread out, hoop anything else you got to add, no.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Sir, I like all the points you guys made, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: it is tough with Nico. I mean, he's definitely the
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: safest of the pass catchers, but you're making sacrifices in
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: your lineup if you're paying eleven two for Nico Collins.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: But it's a lot of risk here, and you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I throughout the four number is like a baseline, like
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I think for these guys, probably bust, but it, like titles,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: it could end up being a lot more.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of like Nico more up top than
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: in the flex, just because of that reasoning. Like again,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: it's like if he's gonna get there, it's like a
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: certain type of look. To me, it's more like a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: low scoring game where that works and He just gets
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: all the work and everybody else gets spread out, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: it doesn't like kill you if you don't have Josh
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: up top. That's the type of bill that that would be.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: But more than likely it's a Josh Allen captain. Just
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the way things seem to go. So hoop, I'll go
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to you your boy, Dalton Schultz. We got Dalton versus Dawson,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Dawson Knox for the Bills, Dalton Schultz for
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the Texans, and then of course you got the backups.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: It is a primetime slate, so we could see that
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: be a thing as usual. But what do you got
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a tight end?
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: No surprise, Definitely, you know a lot of Dalton Schultz.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: He's like the fourth guy was you know, kind of
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: considering up top. He's definitely fine in the flex, a
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: lot of targets. If they're playing from behind, he could
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: see a ton of targets. And we've seen you know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: his last five games ten, three, eight, eleven nine. He's
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: like wide receiver two on this team, manu factoring all
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: the other guys that they're kind of mixing in. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I know there was some time with Nico Collins out,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: But regardless you know, he's great play great price after him,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: though it definitely gets uncomfortable. Dawson Knox at four K,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: you know, no Kinkaid, but I mean, you know, what
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: is his role really even without Kinkaid, Like you're kind
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: of banking on just like a touchdown and is that
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: enough could be? He had three targets, I believe, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: that was a game where it was actually kind of
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: back and forth like that that the Bills took a
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: route somewhat bigger lead towards the end of that game,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: but for the most of that game, that was like
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: a back and forth game, and these pass catchers still
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: didn't get it done. So I do worry a little bit.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Don't really like Jackson Hall. And then I guess, you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: the six hundred for Cage Stover, Like there's so many
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: cheap wide receivers. I think I just would rather go
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: there than Stover. So I'm not really liking any of
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: these guys outside of Dalton Schultz. I prefer the pass catchers,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: you know, even with Knox, like, I prefer the past
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: catchers that we talked or the wide receivers that we
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: talked about, even over knocks at four K, So not
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: really loving much here outside of Schultz.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do me a favorite chat. Make sure you hit
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: this one up. Give us the final I said core
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: final score, and we don't need your core. Give us
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the final score. And who wins in the chat, I
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: want to know if you got Buffalo or Houston? And
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: what do you see the score of the game ending
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: at let me let's know in the chat. We'll pull
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: some of them up on the screen. We are going
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: to get to our two ship at games winners here
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: just shortly. But title, I'll go to you same position,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: tight End, what do you got?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much the same as Hoop.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Like Knox is fine, I do like Schultz sees the
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: second favorite target still over Hawes. I prefer the receivers
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: in that price range. But Knox is fine, Like he
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: has a better the second best receiving or the second
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: best of the receivers.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Tight Ends touchdown prop Shakir.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Plus two ninety five, he's plus three ten and it's
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: twenty eight and a half receiving props along those other
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: guys in the for a little cheaper. The Shavers, the
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Palmers of the world, and that so I really have
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: nothing bad to say about them. The Hawes Price is
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: in the same range as Shavers if you're leaving like
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: zero dollars and he's the way to get different. I
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: don't hate it. You probably need him to fall in
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: the box. But yeah, pretty much the same as who man.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to see some of these scores twenty
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to thirteen, thirteen to six, twenty to ten, twenty three, sixteen,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: twenty eight, thirteen, twenty four, fourteen, twenty to twelve man
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a lot twenty three, twenty thirty one, thirteen is still
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: under like I think just the main thing about this
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: it just the reason I brought that up and started
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: it was this like Philly our man, Philly Phantom shot
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: out to him, always here, supporting, always in the discord,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: round the clock, crushing it lately on a little mini
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: heater right now. So we love to see that too,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: says bills are number number one verse tight end does it? Factor?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Is Schultz hurt? And then Houston is gonna is definitely
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: gonna give Cook some trouble, et cetera, et cetera. I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: legit have never cared less about any of these defects.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Usually like I'm all over this stuff and like pointing
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it out and like, at least, do you see this,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Do you see that this slate man is just playing DFS.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be DFS at its finest. I think
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be. You have to just play the game.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: You have to take on the risk if you know
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: whatever plays end up getting there. I keep saying this one,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: but it's a good one, is it?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: To me?
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Is the plays, the picks and plays are a product
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: of the process. And it's a great way to put
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it because it's like the however you end up on
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: something tonight, it could just be because that's what gave
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: you the leverage to make your lineup play to where
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: it could be in a good enough spot to be
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: able to take this thing down with less chops, unique,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: et cetera. So I'm just playing the game tonight. We
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: don't get a ton of slates. Where you have it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: just can be completely wide open on either side and
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: can almost just ignore some of the defensive stuff because
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I go back to you here on
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: this one. Who but how do you have this game? Like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I guess what's the chances in your mind? If you're
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: putting a percentage on I'll kick you with like a
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: title a titleism, like, what's the what percentage chance he
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: loves getting the odds over there? What percentage chance is
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: this game fifty plus points score?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem likely.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Texans have played just some some nasty,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: grinded out sort of games and they, you know, want
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: that that style play. I mean, I think if this
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: is a high scoring game, I just think it's the
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Bills just absolutely blowing out the Texans. Like, to me,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: that's the only way this gets into like the fifty
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: total territory. I just don't see a back and forth
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: like thirty to twenty seven sort of game, like if
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: it gets big, to me, it's gonna be the Bills
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: smack the Texans. And I will say, in terms of
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: the matchup stuff, it's just it's too difficult on a
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: one game slate to really go deep into the weeds
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: of the individual matchups. Like you just you have limited
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: number of options as is, so we just can't. We
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: just don't have the luxury to be picky on the
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: individual matchups in terms of this team's DVP and whatnot.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: I just can't can't do it on a showdown, say,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: in my opinion, in my opinion, I just don't think
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: you can.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: What do you think title? What percentage would you put
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: on it?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Thirty seven point two?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, what it is under?
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Fifty and a half? On draftings? Thirty plus one sixty nine?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You got the math on us? I know it's there.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Like I said, it's a good one. Title ism. I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: love that, and I've been doing it a lot more
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: lately with people because I think it's interesting way to
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: like get a thought process around and how are you
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: thinking about this and what are the possibility I just
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: thought it's funny. I think probably eighty percent of those
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: people that typed in the chat were on the under.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Without putting in and saying I think this game goes under.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: It was more of like a you know, all the
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: scores led to under forty four ish forty four and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: a half. I didn't see the latest on it, but
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: it's around that summer, I think, right, so what have
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: we got forty three and a half right now? It's
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: gone down a little bit, so I mean maybe that's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. People are coming in on the under.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: But we'll see, all right, kickers and d's you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: we can wavering back and forth on this one. The
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: last couple slates title and last last slate was a
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: kicker slate till it wasn't right, and you know, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: then in the end it almost was. And I needed
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: them to kick that all I know. It was like
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: they're up big. But when they went for Cede Lamb
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: on fourth, I was like, just kicking with ub or
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: that would be so good, and they did not do it,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and so that hurt.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, I mean both kickers, I mean they
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: had they did fine, it just wasn't the slate you need.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, pickings what a.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Grown man game, and the blue inactive stuff like today,
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I think we're kind of safe, but you just I
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: really don't build my lineups right now because like that
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: one inactive definitely changes things. Kickers d We're in a dome.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: People like the under if you like that. Kickers just
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: have to be really good. Plays Fairman and Prater nothing
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: bad about them. Defenses are a little cheaper. I mean
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: it sounds like both teams like the defenses. But yeah,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: I mean Houston's defense is really good. Josh can make
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: mistakes trying to extend plays. So even if they score
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: twenty four to twenty eight points. Texans defense still can
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: get there. It takes one play. We say it all
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: the time. Backup quarterback for the Texans. I think Bill's
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: D's fine too. So yeah, at ownership, what ten, twenty eight,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: twenty two, I'm going to be playing all of them.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I think they're appropriately owned on this slate.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy too. That was a joke in
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the discord on Monday. But obviously there was some meaning
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: behind the kneels at the end with the kneeland you
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: know scenario and unfortunate news. So I think there was
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: part of that too. But everyone's like, oh, it's because
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of the total forty nine and a half. They're stopping
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: scoring points at forty nine, or they went for it
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: because of this. It's like they're also big teams always
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: go for it and I'm not always, but they should
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and they often do go for it in that position.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: So we'll see how it plays out. Title I mean
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: a hoops, Sorry, do you want to ad anything at
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: kickers and.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: D's nothing really to add.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, fine with I mean probably a little
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: more open to defense than normal. And what's the ownership
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: looking like? Let me see, uh, Texan, we have a
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: ten bills at twenty, I think they have a chance
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: to come down a little bit, just because so many
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: of the pass catchers are kind of in that range.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: So I'm more open to defenses than I typically am.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I like going through this stuff and then
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: sort of just thinking through do we have anything else
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to add at the end, and what can I sort
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: of bring based on what we talked about. One thing's
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: for certain, I think it's definitely a good night to
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: build kind of in sets like I always have talked
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: about where it's like if you think it's the under
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that will play into a lot of different factors. Who
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: if you just made a great point of like the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: kickers and the d's are there in the price ranges
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: just slightly ahead of all the that people are trying
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: to pick between to make them their value plays. And
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: if you have it as a lower scoring game or
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: a game that sets up for multiple field goals or
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: defensive turnover sacks, things like that, then I think that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: would make sense, and that would actually potentially get different
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: because it looks like the kickers will be higher on
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: than the defenses, and we could just revert back to
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: double d's that we've seen these last couple of weeks.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: But on the alternative side is if you do have
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: it going over. I think that's where it's like Josh
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Allen up top, what mix and match are you doing
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: with them that's different? Getting overweight on that and then
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: finding a way to get different, you know, in different spots,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: or just leave a ton of salary on the table.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So who title, any any other final thoughts from you
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: or anything else you want to add, and then we'll
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: talk about the FanDuel side as well.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: No, I like to your point of I mean, I
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: think in main slate you can use the io ball
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: stuff a little more with just so many more players
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: were a showdown. It's really getting tricky if you're just
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: deviating your process every single slate because this is going
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: to happen today and that's your feeling. I mean, that's
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: why I always try and I bring up props, numbers, ownership,
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: I mean that stuff's I mean props are out there
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: like they're taking millions or whatever amount of money on it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I'll trust that over today. I think this, but we
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: try and mix it both in.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: It's important to have takes, but you can get in
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: trouble if you're taking your takes too far.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that advice because it's I think something
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that people confuse a little bit too is like if
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you don't have you know what it's like hoop right,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: if you don't have hot takes, what are you then?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And when we talk and then it gets flipped and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: we talk about like when people are betting and don't
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: have receipts, And that's to me bigger deal because you're
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: telling everyone to go bet their hard earned money, but
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: then you're not backing it up on a specific play
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: that you're putting out there. But in this case, we
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: do talk through more process. But the titles point, it's like,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the takes are the hard, stances are legit. We play dfs.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: You can look us up in the lobby. Go look,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: go to your other favorite sites, look up your favorite
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: players and see if they're in the twenty dollars lobby
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: tonight and how many lineups are playing. It's not rude,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: it's just factual. I'm just telling if you want to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: see the truth, go look it up. We do take
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: price in that, but our stances will be clean cut
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and clear. We put it on the site into our
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: slate plans. We put it in our player pools, we
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: go out and actually play what we say. The stances
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: become what we decide is our lane to end the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: night before, you know, when lock hits and the game goes,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and then we root on our community if we're not
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: up at the top, or they root us on it.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: It's a great feeling. That's really what it comes down to.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: So we still have stances, but it's nicer to talk
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: through the slate from a perspective of what you guys
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: are thinking in the chat. I think that's awesome when
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I'm thinking this, how could this work? Well,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that would work like this, and then some people put
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it together and we'll come back and be like, yo,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you told me this and I ended up going with
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it and shipped. That's what it's all about. So I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: love that point title hoop anything to add on that
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and then take us through some FanDuel stuff here before
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: we get to the winners.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some good points there. Pull up the FANDUL stuff,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: I don't. I think there must be some confusion on
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: the part of FanDuel in regards the Texans pass catchers.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe they were assuming like Nico Collins had a chance
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: to sit or something. But Nico Collins is up there
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: at twelve four, But after him, Jayden Higgins is seventy
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: six hundred, like seventy six hundred for Jayden Higgins, where
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Christian Kirk is seventy two hundred, Xavier Hutchinson is fifty four.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know. Maybe I don't think
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Nico Collins was ever questionable? Was he like he was
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: always he was always set to play.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: They kind of price those guys up as if there's
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: a chance that Nico may miss. I mean, those are
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: tough clicks. I mean, Higgins at seventy six, Christian Kirk
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: at seventy two, he's projected to score like three Fantasy points,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Hutchinson fifty four, same thing. So I don't know, those
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: guys are tough to click on those names. That's definitely
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: one thing that stands out what he marks a little
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: cheaper than the top tier guys at ten to four.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Running backs up a little bit of an advantage over there,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: and then really all.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: The other cheap guys are kind of in there.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: In terms of the Buffalo low pass catchers got Palmer
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: forty eight, Shavers thirty six, Gabe Davis five k.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: That's kind of aggressive.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: Elijah More twenty eight hundred, Ty Johnson thirty four. So yeah,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I guess less cheap options over on fanuel with the
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: increased prices for those Houston pass catchers.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the other night, this is where I found the
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Pickens spot. Remember he ended up being almost the same
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: price on both sides. It was like, that's pretty interesting.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: And the one that stood out to me right away
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: on this is it's a touchdown dependent site. It's yes,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: they fixed the pricing, but that's you know, in the format,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: but you still have to score touchdowns heavily on FanDuel
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and then showdown in general like Hoops point earlier. But
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: James Cook twelve thousand versus eleven to four on DraftKings,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: it's almost the exact same. He's way under He's like
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Davis Mills. Nico Collins is more than James Cook over there.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's he would like, I mean an MVP ownership, it
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: could be one third the ownership of Josh Allen in
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: the same spot. So I definitely think that's pretty interesting
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: over on FanDuel.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Title.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Did you see anything else there, anything else that we
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: just went through that you want to add on to just.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: To add on Hoop's point of like not as much
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: value that will lead to more middling bills to an extent,
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: like Josh and James Cook will still be very heavily
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: owned an MVP, but like skipping the Nico Range, Mills,
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Marx Shakir, like James Cook and Josh Allen, I think,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: will be even more condensed and higher own on FanDuel,
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: and then the Kickers and D's might be a little
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: higher on two to fill it out with a middling
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: build after that instead of having to full time.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could definitely see the point. Like Philly asked
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: this about Houston D with Josh captain for sure, I
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: think for sure a night for both sides of that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: is if you could have you know, Davis Mills with
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo D as well, especially if they're up late
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and then later in the games. I think this is
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a slight where like I said, it's more of that
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: stuff mattering than like again, the end result will be
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it matters whatever who you haven't and correctly, but it's
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: it's important just to build in a way that tells
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: us story. So let's get to the winners here, guys.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: We've got the what did you win again last week? Coup?
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Is it nine and two?
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Nine and two?
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they give you a credit in the discord.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was a domination. It wasn't closed.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: I mean I think it was up twenty thirty basically
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: the entire time.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: So it's you know, valuing effort.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, you know, the King remains on top.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I mean nine and was over under nine and a half.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: They set up to begin and a half.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: That's gone. It's up thirteen and a half now, so.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: The live over unders thirteen and a half.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I believe it all right.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: It's like I don't want to, like, I don't want
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: a victory laugh at it too much because it's like
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: people in our community and you know, we're very thankful
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: for all their support, but damn, I mean, your boys,
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: your boys.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: They still have a shot at twenty k even though
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: they lose out on the top.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: That's what I said.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: I don't That's why I don't feel bad about kind of,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: you know, taking the victory lap because they're still eligible
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: to win win the grand prize.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: So like if they were like they lost and they're
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: out and they're not.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Eligible to win that I'd feel a little bad kind
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: of shitting on the competition, but the fact that they
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: can still win the Big Boy Prize, I got to
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: take my shots along the way.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I love. And now it's about three
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: hundred minimum that they're getting, So I mean, even if
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: they were in on the three forty nine and we're
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: still gonna try and grow. We got some very big
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: weeks ahead. We're getting some momentum in the share ships,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: so we'll have that coming up in a second, but
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be for the five to fifty five millionmaker.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe at all this momentum, maybe the Sharks money. I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: got to bring this up again before we go to
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the winner again. Congrats to everyone in the pool that's involved,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: anyone that's in the community that's now has a chance
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to be a part of this. And then just a huge,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: huge thank you to our MVP Sharks eighty eight nineteen
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: good luck with the ship at donation five and twenty
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: four of his cash dollars, won sixty five grand on
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Saturday and immediately gave up twenty four to the community,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: so we'll have more to take care of our guys, Sharks,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: but certainly appreciate you sharks that I know everybody else
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: does as well. So let's get to it.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Who if this is?
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: You know coming for at nine and two record the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: winner of Golden Ship at number thirty six, the winner
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: is let's get a pronunciation on this one.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Who Mark Pelasio Pallazolo.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have said anything after your first that was
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: so smooth, that was so impressed it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, Plasio, that's definitely not it after I
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: said it, but it didn't sound it sounded good with confidence,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: I show.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Mark, that's the man, Yeah Palasolo. Yeah, two Italians battling again.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I think that we had this couple of weeks ago.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what how did that one end? Who was that
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: one of your?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: One of your I cannot remember? Wait, maybe that's the
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: guy that won one of the last week. Yeah, that
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: was the guy that one. Now that's the guy that
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: won the one of the giveaway things.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: The Yeah, new new members, but yeah, the.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Best of left.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Mark.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, a lot of a lot of common,
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of failed so uh, you know, do your us.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go, Mark, all right, thirty six of fifty
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• 53:40
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• 53:43
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• 53:50
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• 53:54
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• 54:38
  Speaker 1: get out of.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Here, boys, good luck all right, every one?
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks again to Sharks. We want to say again
• 54:46
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