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- 0:00Speaker 1: We do our best to keep clean. We've gotten rid
- 0:02Speaker 1: of the plastic bags from the supermarkets. Yes. We ban
- 0:06Speaker 1: the plastic straws. Yes.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Where are you on that, plastic or paper? I hate
- 0:12Speaker 2: paper straws. I'd like the plastic bag, please.
- 0:17Speaker 1: How dare you?
- 0:18Speaker 2: I know.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Sorry, Greta. But I don't like them. Soggy, horrible thing,
- 0:23Speaker 3: trying to drink your vodka and soda up.
- 0:24Speaker 1: This will make you feel not to.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Vodka and soda. This will make you feel a little
- 0:33Speaker 1: bit better. A new study has revealed that paper straws
- 0:36Speaker 1: are worse for the environment than plastic.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Hurrah!
- 0:39Speaker 1: Oh, my God!
- 0:42Speaker 2: I don't mean to excite it. Just relieved.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Yeah, this is done by the South
- 0:52Speaker 1: Korean Ministry of Climate, Energy and Environment. They've analysed straws,
- 0:57Speaker 1: paper plastic, biodegradable plastic and sugarcane-based straws as well. And
- 1:05Speaker 1: it turns out the paper straws are not that great
- 1:08Speaker 1: for the environment. I was reading about this.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Quite interesting.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Apparently, they take up a lot more energy to make.
- 1:17Speaker 1: So their carbon footprint is higher than the plastic straws. Yes.
- 1:25Speaker 1: And people think that you can recycle the plastic straws,
- 1:29Speaker 1: but apparently.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Not that easily.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Well, no, they go through the machine, they routinely slip
- 1:34Speaker 1: through the sorting equipment, and they all end up on
- 1:37Speaker 1: the floor, meaning that almost none of them actually get recycled.
- 1:40Speaker 3: See, we think we're doing the right thing.
- 1:42Speaker 2: It's a wicked old web, isn't it, Tom?
- 1:45Speaker 3: And the South Korean study also found that close to 90%
- 1:48Speaker 3: of people, and it's the same here in Australia from
- 1:50Speaker 3: what I've read.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Hate paper straws. So what is the solution?
- 1:55Speaker 1: Well, I don't mind them.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Well, maybe those reusable straws that are made from stainless
- 2:01Speaker 3: steel or silicon.
- 2:02Speaker 2: But I'm not going to lie. Oh, come on. I'm
- 2:04Speaker 2: not going to lie. I don't trust that they're clean
- 2:06Speaker 2: on the inside.
- 2:07Speaker 3: I know that when you buy them, they give you
- 2:08Speaker 3: one of those skinny little things that you stick down
- 2:10Speaker 3: and get.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I'll use them at home.
- 2:12Speaker 3: I'm just, I don't trust that those things are, after
- 2:16Speaker 3: a couple of goes, that they're not, you know, a
- 2:20Speaker 3: bit icky.
- 2:20Speaker 2: On the inside.
- 2:21Speaker 3: A bit like that giraffe that the kids had where
- 2:23Speaker 3: they took them apart, they were full of.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Mold, you know, and all the kids were sucking on them.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Remember a few years ago, that horrendous giraffe? No, I don't. Oh,
- 2:30Speaker 2: that was terrible. You can Google that later.
- 2:32Speaker 1: If I go to Scarborough Beach and I have a
- 2:34Speaker 1: swim and then afterwards I think I'm going to get
- 2:37Speaker 1: myself a banana milkshake from Peter's by the Sea and
- 2:40Speaker 1: I must remember to pack my metal straw or my
- 2:43Speaker 1: silicon straw so that then I go and have my milkshake.
- 2:46Speaker 1: But then once you've had your milkshake, Where do you
- 2:48Speaker 1: put it?
- 2:49Speaker 2: Because you don't want to throw it away.
- 2:50Speaker 1: And it's still got bits of banana milkshake in it.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be cleaned with that long thing.
- 2:55Speaker 1: So I've got to take the straw and the cleaner
- 2:57Speaker 1: as well to go to the beach.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to have a whole compartment in your
- 3:00Speaker 3: car now because you've got your keepy cup, your keep
- 3:03Speaker 3: cup for your coffee. You've got your metal stainless steel
- 3:08Speaker 3: reusable straw and cleaning apparatus and something to rinse it in. Right.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Just, I mean, just don't leave home and just drink
- 3:18Speaker 2: with your mouth.
- 3:18Speaker 1: How do you feel about the paper tops on coffee cups, Lisa?
- 3:23Speaker 3: Oh, I don't drink through the lid of a coffee.
- 3:28Speaker 3: I am not four years old. I don't drink through
- 3:30Speaker 3: a sippy cup. So why would I drink my coffee
- 3:33Speaker 3: through a sippy cup? I take my lid off and look,
- 3:35Speaker 3: I know I'm in the minority. It's not a sippy cup.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Most people love to suck through that plastic lid like
- 3:40Speaker 3: there's no tomorrow.
- 3:41Speaker 2: And yes, I get it. You're keeping it hot. It's paper.
- 3:44Speaker 2: But I would rather take the lid off and drink
- 3:46Speaker 2: like a normal adult.
- 3:48Speaker 1: It goes brown and soggy and wonky.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Yuck, it's gross.
- 3:51Speaker 1: It's to keep the heat in.
- 3:53Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with being four years old.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I put the lid back on perhaps and then take
- 3:57Speaker 3: it off again. But I do not drink. sippy cup style,
- 4:00Speaker 3: my coffee.
- 4:01Speaker 1: But you still have to dispose of the paper lid.
- 4:05Speaker 1: So whether you whack your chompers on it or you don't,
- 4:11Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You're still causing environmental problems.
- 4:15Speaker 2: So, look, I think the bottom line is we're going
- 4:17Speaker 2: to environmental hell, whatever we do.
- 4:21Speaker 1: There's no win here, people.
- 4:22Speaker 2: We just can't win.