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Furness Show 12-8: Seahawks win reaction with Hugh Millen and Mike Sando · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to us Jordan ninety
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks smash the Falcons yesterday thirty seven to nine. It's
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  Speaker 2: a six to sixth ball game. By the way, at halftime,
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks now ten and three on the season. JSN had
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  Speaker 2: two more touchdowns ninety two yards receiving. How about Rashi
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  Speaker 2: Never game? After that, Rams beat the Cardinals on the road.
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  Speaker 2: They're both sit now at ten and three in the
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  Speaker 2: NFC West. Let's see we learned Friday that watched state
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  Speaker 2: head coaching me Rodgers leaving the program for Iowa States.
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  Speaker 2: case you missed it, as well a lot of in
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  Speaker 2: case you missed it. This weekend on Friday they sent catcher.
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  Speaker 2: It was a Friday or Saturday. Saturday. Saturday they sent
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  Speaker 2: catcher Harry Ford of the Nationals for lefty reliever Jose Ferrare.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, I'm not gonna go there. I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 2: leave it alone. Notre Dame, by the way, is mad.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to call it. They're not gonna go
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  Speaker 2: to play a bowl game. They picked up the ball.
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  Speaker 1: And went home.
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  Speaker 2: Let me start just a quick tease because I glossed
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  Speaker 2: over the there's certain names I don't stay on the air,
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  Speaker 2: but I guess I gotta say his name, Jimmy Rogers
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  Speaker 2: News you ask that over. We will have Elizabeth kent Well,
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  Speaker 2: Washington State's new president. She's been on the job less
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  Speaker 2: than a year. Right, Yes, yeah, we're gonna have Elizabeth
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  Speaker 2: President count Well on the show tomorrow to talk about
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  Speaker 2: all things going on in that athletic department. They're looking
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  Speaker 2: for an athletic director. They're looking who because she fired
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  Speaker 2: an McCoy and now looking for at football coach. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll have her on tomorrow. Talk about budgets, talk about money.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what are they going to spend to go
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  Speaker 2: get a coach? What are they looking for? So we'll
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  Speaker 2: have her on tomorrow for some We've had a chance
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  Speaker 2: to talk to her on the show that's coming up
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow in the one o'clock hour. Hi, Hugh Ellen, how
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  Speaker 2: are you? I'm doing well? How are you all right?
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  Speaker 2: To have a good football team to root for? Thank
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  Speaker 2: god we've got the Seahawks. Huh, thank goodness? The six.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't want to take it away from
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  Speaker 3: your no spot. I mean, I know you got the
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  Speaker 3: devastating news. Yeah, thanks for coming on with Dick and me. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know here your emotions must be just.
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  Speaker 2: Well all over. Yeah I was, you know, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: when the new broke, it broke. I want to say
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  Speaker 2: it was like four four fifteen on Friday right here,
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  Speaker 2: because you were doing the show with Fane and I
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  Speaker 2: got a call from Jackson and I had just seen it.
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  Speaker 2: I literally had just seen it. I sat down a
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  Speaker 2: couple of friends at a little local establishment, shout out
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  Speaker 2: to a friends that the vibe and and I see that,
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  Speaker 2: and you guys call and we popped on and you know,
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  Speaker 2: like in today's world, I think we're all used to it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've you lived it. We talked about this
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  Speaker 2: a couple weeks, maybe last week even here. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about it with your sons, you know, playing Division I
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  Speaker 2: football and going through different coaches and hell sometimes signing
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  Speaker 2: with a team or committing to a team and then
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  Speaker 2: the coach leaves even before you get there. And you
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  Speaker 2: know that's part of it, you know, being on a
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  Speaker 2: job less than one calendar year, getting a promotion, so
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  Speaker 2: to speak, and whatever he did with his salary, double triple,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want to believe for going six and six,
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  Speaker 2: welcome today's college football. I guess you know it's good
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  Speaker 2: for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll let you get on your your your
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  Speaker 3: monologue on that one. You know, it's hard because you
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  Speaker 3: know the free market, you know, people do have freedoms. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I just I think it when it there's a nexus
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  Speaker 3: of those kind of free market opportunities that are affwarded everybody.
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  Speaker 3: But when it meets with you know, the team construct
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  Speaker 3: the way it is, and and that that collision is
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  Speaker 3: violent and it's it's it's off putting.
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  Speaker 2: Usually. Yeah, I just still go back to you and
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  Speaker 2: I talked about this last week a little bit. I
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  Speaker 2: just I guess I wish there would be more of
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  Speaker 2: a you know, they've they've changed the portal, you know,
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  Speaker 2: rules now you've got to wait till January, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: But if a guy's leaving, he's gonna leave. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter necessarily. But I don't know the this is the
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  Speaker 2: only sport where coaches leaving them, you know, with the
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  Speaker 2: season still going on, and if you want to model
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  Speaker 2: yourself after pro sports these days, I just I can't
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  Speaker 2: fathom how that's the case. I understand recruiting, we all
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  Speaker 2: understand that. I mean, we don't have to go through
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  Speaker 2: it again. But and listen, if the guy doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to be there. Good go you know, go go do
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  Speaker 2: your thing, you know. And and and I you know,
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  Speaker 2: I tried to buy in. I tried to support. I
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  Speaker 2: tried to you know. And I call fans like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: suffer through some excruciating losses. But hey, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to criticize Jimmy. Let's all get on
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  Speaker 2: board with Jimmy. Well. I hate when I hate when
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  Speaker 2: we're told that is fans. I'm not just talking about Wazoo.
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  Speaker 1: You.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about all schools. Yeah, right, get on board
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  Speaker 2: with your coach. You gotta support them, write a check
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  Speaker 2: for nil, do all these things, and support the guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's building something there. No one's building anything. Nobody's building
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  Speaker 2: anything in college sports as far as coaching. They're building
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  Speaker 2: a resume. But don't tell me to support a guy
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  Speaker 2: he's building something because he's got one foot out the door.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, like I brought this up and this
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  Speaker 2: is not me trying to be that guy, because it's
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  Speaker 2: it's you do or Wazuo. I mean, you guys go
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  Speaker 2: to the damn National championship game and your coach leaves too,
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  Speaker 2: Like how many programs do you not leave for or
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  Speaker 2: do you not leave in this country? Maybe three or four? Right,
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  Speaker 2: like like well, and then there's the yeah, and then
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  Speaker 2: there's the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: I mean right Nick Saban, Yeah, he won a national
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  Speaker 3: champion ship at LSU. You would say LSU is one,
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  Speaker 3: I mean one of those yeah, that in Ohio state.
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  Speaker 3: You know how many how many schools are you you
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  Speaker 3: alone in a in a fertile recruiting state and you're
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  Speaker 3: the only school right right? And Nick Saban had that
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  Speaker 3: at LSU. I mean, there's more NFL players per capita
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  Speaker 3: from Louisiana than any other state. Now that that might
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  Speaker 3: be a little out of date, but I remember that
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  Speaker 3: was true, not long enough. It's probably close to true
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  Speaker 3: if it's not. But but then and of course Ohio
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  Speaker 3: is a very populated state, and you say, well Cincinnati's
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  Speaker 3: coming on.
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  Speaker 2: So so yeah, when you when you think.
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  Speaker 3: Of of the schools that that would be in that category,
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  Speaker 3: h l SU would have thought to have been one,
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  Speaker 3: and yet it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: For Nick Saban. No, And that's the way it is, Listen,
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  Speaker 2: it's I had we talked about last week, Alex, and
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  Speaker 2: when Alex Brank was on his weekly visit, him and
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  Speaker 2: m k and uh, you know, and Alex said, listen,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Cougar fans have to understand guys are going
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  Speaker 2: to leave, you know, just accept that. And I think
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  Speaker 2: we all, you know, I'm like, yeah, you're right, Like
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna leave, but I can't wait till he leaves,
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  Speaker 2: because when he leaves, it's going to because they just went,
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  Speaker 2: you know, ten and two or nine in three and
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  Speaker 2: had a bolt like whatever, right, like that's when he left.
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  Speaker 3: But you know it's six and six and six man. Yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the first college football game was Princeton versus Records,
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  Speaker 3: I believe, eighteen sixty nine. And you know, the IVY
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  Speaker 3: leagues were at one point really the premier league. And
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  Speaker 3: and so when you think of all those presidents and
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  Speaker 3: chancellors all those years ago, more than a century ago,
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  Speaker 3: where you say, why would we be in the business
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  Speaker 3: of playing intercollegiate sports, Well, it was thought to be
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  Speaker 3: that sports would be consistent with the values that we
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  Speaker 3: want young people exposed to and to live those values
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  Speaker 3: and to to to uh, you know, experience adversity. How
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  Speaker 3: do you respond to adversity, to experience the teamwork and
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  Speaker 3: and and all the things, and so they say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: let's be in the let's be not in the business
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  Speaker 3: of inter collegiate sports. Let's have that attendant to the
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  Speaker 3: mission statement of the university. That's where we would have been,
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  Speaker 3: you know, some one hundred and fifty years ago. Well,
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  Speaker 3: of course it's it's morphed into a big business. Clearly,
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  Speaker 3: the courts, I'll way up to the Supreme Court see
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  Speaker 3: it that way. But I thought Chris Peterson had a
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  Speaker 3: pretty eloquent statement this morning. We're responding to Notre Dame's
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  Speaker 3: decision to not play in the bulls and you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, podcasted because Peterson's going to say it much
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  Speaker 3: better than me. But essentially, if I comparea phrase, he
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  Speaker 3: was like, hey, wait a minute. You know, in life,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to have setbacks, things are going to be
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  Speaker 3: beyond your control, that are adverse to you, that maybe
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  Speaker 3: aren't fair to you. You don't like what has happened
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  Speaker 3: to you, and then how do you rec bond? And
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think if we were having
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  Speaker 3: a discussion, you know, if we could be a fly
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  Speaker 3: on the wall one hundred and fifty years ago, when
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  Speaker 3: colleges were even deciding whether to have sports, somebody would
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  Speaker 3: have been arguing in that room for all the values
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  Speaker 3: that sports can teach you, and I think I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think one hundred and fifty years ago they
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  Speaker 3: would have had the thought that the thought that, well, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know what Notre Dame did is consistent with the
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  Speaker 3: mission statement. I don't think that would have been the case.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, the first guy that shocked me, the
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  Speaker 3: first player, was Christian McCaffrey. This wasn't something they used
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  Speaker 3: to have. Ian, you and I are old enough we
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  Speaker 3: remember the hardship Yep, there was a thing a hardship appeal.
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  Speaker 3: Hey I need to go to the NFL because I
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  Speaker 3: need to support my family, and then that would be
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  Speaker 3: a hardship appeal. There was no hardship appeal for Christian McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 3: This was just a guy that just, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: dropped any sense of commitment to Stanford. And it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm looking out for me and and then that
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  Speaker 3: that kind of like really like stunned me.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the news that Notre Dame did this,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think a Notre Dame tapping out of
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  Speaker 2: a bowl game? I have mixed feelings about it.
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  Speaker 3: I I I think everything Chris Peterson said about what
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  Speaker 3: it says the values. I think it's a further, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 3: diminishment of the role of sports on education.
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  Speaker 2: But we've seen this.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not just players that that are jumping
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  Speaker 3: in the portal. It's coaches that are not not just
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  Speaker 3: jumping in the portal of the league. But they're the
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  Speaker 3: ones are who are going in and looking at the players,
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  Speaker 3: acquiring the players.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're they're lying, you know, they're uh, they're
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  Speaker 3: making commitments to their players, and they're turning around and
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  Speaker 3: disavowing that.
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  Speaker 2: So so but so so.
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  Speaker 3: I I on the one hand that I agree with
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  Speaker 3: the I don't have anything to the offer in the
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  Speaker 3: take my ball and go home critiques because I agree
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  Speaker 3: with that. But there is a part of me that
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  Speaker 3: thinks that the bulls are absurd, right, I mean to me,
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  Speaker 3: think about this, particularly now that we have the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: these lesser bowls are have the equivalent. Think of, give
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  Speaker 3: me two teams that are not going to make the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs in the NFL. Let's say, you know, you know
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  Speaker 3: that be close to the playoffs but not going to
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  Speaker 3: make it. The Bengals and the Chiefs the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: The Chiefs might be Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, we're not gonna play So, hey, Bengals and Chiefs,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to be in the playoffs, but let's
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  Speaker 3: have an exhibition game that uh, you know, just to
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  Speaker 3: just to play an extra game. Because I mean, think
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  Speaker 3: about how Bulls originally came about. That was back in
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  Speaker 3: an era with depending on how far you want to
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  Speaker 3: go back, six or seven or maybe eight games and
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  Speaker 3: you were done in November. And then like Pasadena said said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: to make money, let's have a parade. Let's have a
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  Speaker 3: bowl game. Invite these you know, the champions from the Midwest.
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  Speaker 3: The season was already over, it had already been voted
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  Speaker 3: who's the national champion. Hey, we're just gonna have an
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  Speaker 3: exhibition as a reward to the players and the fans,
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  Speaker 3: and they come to the Sunshine.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that was the whole idea by behind Bulls. It
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  Speaker 2: was just an.
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  Speaker 3: Exhibition, but it was kind of cool because of but
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  Speaker 3: it was just a sidelight. But that was when there
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  Speaker 3: was three or four Bulls. Then it grew to forty
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  Speaker 3: two bowls because we got to make money. And then
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  Speaker 3: now the playoffs has pushed it out. So the bulls,
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  Speaker 3: you know, watching these games with like nine thousand people.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if and now you want a fan.
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's good for some, but there's an absurdity
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  Speaker 3: to the whole lesser balls, and so I'm glad that
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  Speaker 3: at least on that front, Notre Dame's decision does put
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  Speaker 3: a spotlight.
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  Speaker 2: On the Bowls in that regard, you know, you know, maybe, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think there's I think you'd have to do something
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  Speaker 2: in terms of again increasing play. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's in March Madness. To me, is still the perfect
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  Speaker 2: thing going on right now. I mean about nineteen percent
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  Speaker 2: of the teams, you know, three hundred and sixty five
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  Speaker 2: basketball teams, sixty eight in was it about nineteen percent
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  Speaker 2: get into March Madness, right and you get now the
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  Speaker 2: NTV the equivalent of the Bowl games now and team's like,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to play. We get knocked out last
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  Speaker 2: year Indiana first one out. We're not playing. Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: get to understand that, but you know, like you you,
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  Speaker 2: everyone has a shot to play in March Madness. Every
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  Speaker 2: team in the country has a shot to play in
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  Speaker 2: March Madness. You know, with a twelve team playoff, that's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, definitely not the case. There's a reality that
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  Speaker 2: exists in football that bat maybe doesn't exist in basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Basketball is one off of you, you know that, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like one team can beat somebody. Hell, we've seen sixteens
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  Speaker 2: get beat or beat ones twice, fifteens beatn twos things
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  Speaker 2: like that. But there everyone gets a shot, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and no matter how many teams you have in a playoff,
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  Speaker 2: like I think we'd all agree twelve is better than four,
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  Speaker 2: which was four is better than the two, which it was,
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  Speaker 2: and two was better than let's just have a subjective
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  Speaker 2: vote not to you know, Huski fans know that all
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  Speaker 2: too well, next to a well yeah, yeah right, I
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  Speaker 2: mean like just cab with me, yeah four right. So
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  Speaker 2: it's all gotten better over the years, but it's still
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  Speaker 2: not perfect. And if you go to sixteen or even
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  Speaker 2: go to twenty four whatever, you're gonna have teams that
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  Speaker 2: aren't happening. Let me let me ask you real quick,
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  Speaker 2: just because we run out of time this segment. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think that they got it right in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the final teams in Alabama in Miami in those kind
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  Speaker 2: of like I guess if you're doing a bracket in basketball,
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  Speaker 2: the last two in right, first two out would be
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame and what BYU Notre Dame in Texas, nor Dame, Vanderbilt, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and being right. So did they get it right?
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  Speaker 3: I think that not only did they get it right,
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  Speaker 3: I think that they got it right the seeding then
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  Speaker 3: twelve teams, Yeah, and the exact placement of the teams.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we're up against it, but there's a very compelling
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  Speaker 3: argument for the group of five, JMU and Tulane and
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  Speaker 3: their inclusion, and that ought to be something that gets
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  Speaker 3: the attention every single college football fan, and get the
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  Speaker 3: attention violently, like you need a shake if you think
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  Speaker 3: that you shouldn't have JMU and Tulane in there, and
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  Speaker 3: the repercussions from an anti trust standpoint, the exposure if
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  Speaker 3: you want to exclude them, and the consequences which would
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  Speaker 3: be far far greater than just their inclusion, if you
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  Speaker 3: want to get lawmakers involved and and suing and triple damages,
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  Speaker 3: and you might have a system where you get half
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  Speaker 3: and half and revenue sharing, like the power for trust Me.
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  Speaker 3: They Power Forward conferences do not want to go down
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  Speaker 3: that road. They already showed their ignorance of the law
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  Speaker 3: in the Austin case where they kept appealing the Alsten decision,
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  Speaker 3: which was just a meaningless innocuous education related benefits case,
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  Speaker 3: but the NCAA kept appealing it because they were so greedy.
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  Speaker 3: And then bam, they got smacked lost nine to nothing
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  Speaker 3: in the Supreme Court. And the result immediately that they
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  Speaker 3: they wiped out the amateurism argument of college football and
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  Speaker 3: college basketball, and then now all the unwanted outcomes with
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: respect to nil, with respect to revenue sharing for these
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: kids that some people don't like, the freedom and what
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: have you, that rendered the the NCAA as completely powerless,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: completely neutered them. And that's what you're flirting with if
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: you want to say right now, I don't want Jamu
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: in there, and I don't want too leg Look, I'm
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: not carrying any flag for the little guy. That is
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: not where I'm coming from. I'm just saying from a
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: matter of pragmatism and a little bit of a study
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: of the anti trust laws and what has has destroyed
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: the NCAAA. Yeah, you got to have those teams and
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: then and then Bama, I know we're up er against it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: To me between Bama Alabama and Miami. Bama is not
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: only the clear first choice in that regard, I don't
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: think it's close. When you consider this, the SEC is
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: by far the most dominant conference, and Alabama. By the
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: SEC's own process, Alabama was the number one seed after
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the regular season. They had the of the of the
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: four teams, they had the the that were tied at
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: one loss. They had the toughest strength to schedule along
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: with Georgia that a limited A and m and Ole
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: miss And then so those two were compared to Alabama Georgia,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: and Alabama beat Georgia. So so for the rest of history,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Alabama will go down as the team that won the
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five SEC regular season. And I would just
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: say full stop right there. If that is your title,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the regular season champion of the SEC, then over three months,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: there is nothing you can do in three hours that
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: can undo that. When you're talking about maybe if it
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: was a two team the BCS, maybe if it was
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: a four team CFP, certainly if it was a four team,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: but when you got twelve teams, and I really viewed
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: as as there's a ten team power four conference because
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: you have to reserve two spots for the for the
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: group of five, just just like just sit down and
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: shut up about the JMU and TWU lane, Okay, because
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you know this phrase, f around and find out.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and go ahead and pull those group of fives.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: F around and find out what how much worse everything
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: will be if you want to get in an anti
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: trust court, and all you have to do is study
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Austin and everything that transpired from Austin.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I've read the fifty four page.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: You know. I'm interested in this topic because I was
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a play rep in the NFL and we had to
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I had to apprized myself. I'm no attorney, just a layman,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: but I had to learn about the UNI trust, how
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: how sports fit into it because we were we were
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: striking to get free agency. Anyways, you asked me, sorry,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I went on a little monologue there, but yeah, I
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: think they got it all right, and uh, Alabama was
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: absolutely the first of those three.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: My favorite part is Notre Dame Athletic Director today saying
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: that the ACC has done a reparable harm to the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: relationship with Notre Dame, and I'm thinking, well, you're independent,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: you know what you probably in some ways see No,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the ACC did irreparable harm to their relationship with the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: note with Notre Dame. According to Notre Dame's athletic director today,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: does that make sense? He said no, because because he
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: feels as if the ACC and the I don't know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Miami getting in and not Notre Dame that ruined some
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: sort and remember it, Notre Dame is a partial member
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and a lot of sports, Oh my god, like it's
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: it's it's like, listen, the ACC doesn't need you. I mean,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the ACC needs help, but you know, you guys use
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: the ACC more than the ACC uses you scheduling wise
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: and everything else, especially for other sports. Like you want
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to be independent football, you paid the price. That's part
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: of the reason. Maybe whatever back Like, like.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: You lose all ties? Yes, you all conference championship game?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: You want to You've been invited. I looked up the history.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go into it. They've been invited
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to multiple conferences for decades. They want to be independent. Fine,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: you're gonna lose all ties and you found yourself in
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: a tie and you deserve to lose. I mean, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the head to head this goes back to nineteen seventy eight.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: This still chafes my ass, I'm old enough. Alabama and
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and USC tied for the national championship in nineteen seventy eight.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: The coaches gave it to USC. The writers, in their stupidity,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: gave it to Alabama. They were both they both finished
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: with one loss. USC beat number five ranked Michigan in
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl and Alabama beatn number one ranked Notre
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Dame in the in the might have been Penn State
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: whatever in in the Sugar Bowl. There's one problem. They
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: each had one loss. Guess who's loss? Alabama was to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: USC in Legion Field in Alabama by double digits. So
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: so the writers, in their infinite stupidity, so like looking
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: at two teams that had one loss, and Alabama's was
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to USC by double digits at home, and yet they
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: still voted for Alabama. So the whole West Coast bias
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and all this, you know, head to head, the you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the the the ignorance to head to head.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: That that's been a bird in my ass.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Not that I'm a USC fan, but I was a
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Pack eight fan as you were at the time, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I and and just if you're a fan of justice,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: how did that make sense? And so even all these
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: year later of course, Miami's ahead of Notre Dame. Yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: they last I checked, they beat him. That's simple as that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: All right, we got to take a break. We got
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to take a break. Come back, we'll talk Seahawks. What
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: happened in the second half few mil and That's what
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I'll ask you. Coming up next.
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  Speaker 2: I was gidding to a hardcore football By the way,
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• 22:35
  Speaker 2: from all things over the weekend. Hugh Seahawks had two
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four yards of offense in the second
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: half yesterday in Atlanta. That doesn't include one hundred yards
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: courtesy rashiici Head when he housed a kickoff to start
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in the second half for a touchdown on the opening
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: kickoff of the third quarter. They had one hundred eleven
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: yards in the first half, had six total points. What
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was what was different? Yeah, well, you know, I know.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: It's easy to go first half, second and a half.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: It's easier to just calculate. But to me, I focus
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: more on the deep line of demarcation was fifty seven
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: seconds remaining the second quarter? Remember what Ye the Seahawks
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: got the ball, drove down forty five yards and kicked
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the field goal right before half. Yep, So I break
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: it before that drive, and Seattle was on a pace
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you break it down literally to the second and then extrapolated,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: they were on a pace to throw for seventy six
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: yards for the entire game.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Up into that point. They'd played almost a full half
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: of football to their first four drives, right through the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: first four drive. Whoever the number of drives is, it
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: was because drive number five was the end of the half.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So okay, yep, through four Okay, so they're on a
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: pace to throw for seventy six yards for the game.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Then if you say from that point on, uh, that
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: drive in the second quarter and then all of the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: second half, they they were at a pace that for
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a game would be four hundred and eleven yards.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, So I mean think of that, seventy six yards
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: would be historically bad. Yeah, four and eleven yards would
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: be historically great. Right, So, and I think within that
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I mentioned it this morning, sorry for those who for
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: whom it's a repeat, but the percentage of the targets
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: at you know, before the juncture, we're saying before and after,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: JSN got fifty five percent of of the the targets
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: and then after that point just twenty one percent. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: JSN had seventy percent of the yards. Afterwards he just
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: had just thirty one percent. And by the way, that
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: included you know, two fifty eight yard or excuse me,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: fifty eight yards of catches on two receptions in the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: early and the third quarter. So so while JSN didn't
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: necessarily disappear, it's everybody else kind of came a lot,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: and you know, particularly received Shahed. I think I think
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: his game was really important, not just for the kickoff return,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: but but using him, you know, mirrored routes for example, uh,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: where you say, okay, we're gonna run the slot routes
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: on little hitches and then the widest guys on out routes,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: and so Sam Donald, it's like, hey, pick a side,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: and you got js N on on what's called the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Omaha quick out to the left or you got received
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Shaheed on Omaha to the right. And early for the
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: first time we were seeing Donald going to Shaheed instead
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and and recognizing that the coverage was rolling over towards JSN.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Both in zone roll roll is a term that defines
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: zone coverage the corners in the flat over the top
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: of of js N denying free access, meaning bumping him,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: redirecting his route at the line of scrimmage, then having
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: a safety over the top. That's roll coverage. A zone terminology.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Press coverage is where you're bumping, you're up denying the access,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: but it's man to man behind.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: It got me, yep.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: So when they they were doing things to take away JSN,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: like rolling him and then also playing that, they played
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a coverage where they played what's called two man over
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the top of JSN. Let me explain what that means.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: So if you just said two men, you got a
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: safety on either half, and then you're playing bump and
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: run five underneath, and the defender who is playing bump
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: and run, he can he can ride the low shoulder,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: he can kind of stay behind him, trailing him because
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: he's got help vertical over the top on either half
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: of the field.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: That's two men. And you remember, remember when we had
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the argument with husman Zada all those years.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Ago, you know, where we were saying, hey, they're not
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: getting open. The receivers aren't getting open. And he says,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: he goes, that's not man and man, that's two men.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So in his mind he was trying to say, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: to which the reply is, okay. So what you're basically
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: telling everybody posing defensive coordinators just played two man every
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: single down and these the receivers are going to give
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: up and say I can't get open against two men. Right,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So anyways, they're putting a safety over the top on
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: jsn's half of the field, Well you'd expect another safety
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: over on the other half of the field, right if
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: it was true two men. That's not what the Falcons did.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: They played two man to JSN side, but they played
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: cover one to the other side, meaning the other safety.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Instead of being on a half he was in the
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: dead middle playing center field. And so you know, this
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: is a there was a plan to take away JSN.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And what what's good is you know Barner and particularly Shahed,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: you know, come, we're coming alive and and look at
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: how they thrived. Yeah, yeah, and being able to respond
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: to that. I think it's really vital moving forward that
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Darnold and Kubiak have this ability to uh to spread
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the ball around.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Well if they and if they just like rashizhi Heed
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: four catches on five targets sixty seven yards along with
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: thirty three. We talk about you know that that other
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: target besides JSN it was going to be and we
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: kind of started to see the potential for Tory Horton. Well,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, Tory Horton comes back. You
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and Rashid Shaheed continues to get acclimated to this offense. Yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: pretty good situation, right, Like like like we could see
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: an offense that at times has been really good get
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: even better.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I would assume, well, when they acquired Shaheed, remember we
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: were saying, are they going to get an offensive lineman,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: what have you? And then then they say, oh, they
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: acquired for Shahed. And then he said, okay, we knew
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: about the Shaheed acquisition before we knew the compensation. Then
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: we learned the compensation. I'll just speak for myself. I'm like, WHOA,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: that's pretty rich man. Fourth and a fourth and a fifth,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: It's like, I hope this guy, man, you better bring something.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a little bit of a luxury acquisition.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Since that time, I've come to learn that there. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: think there was a belief that Tory Horton was more
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: injured than they thought, and he's had an injury history
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: at Colorado State, uh. Plus plus Shaheed's returnability as both
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: punt and obviously kick off from what we saw uh yesterday,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: and and so I think it was more of a
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: need acquisition than a luxury acquisition. So I've kind of
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: changed my mindset, uh since November fourth and the day
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: he was acquired, and and and so now do you
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: want to say you needed him? It's hard to say
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: in a blow out like that you need any one player, right,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: but you know you certainly felt the heat that Shaheed
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: brings when he's bringing back kickoffs that way. How gorgeous
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: was that? I mean, that guy, that man's stride is
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: just beautiful. And then on that deep over where he's
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: he starts on the left side and he screams across.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: He gets to twenty two yards of depth on a
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: diagonal all the way across the field, and he got
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: there just in a blink and it was a nice
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: clean look for Darnold and he just pops it out
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: there and so that that speed for the first time
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: really came alive yesterday.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Fun to see, you know, it's all. What else is
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: fun to see? Number three? Nick even Worry our guest
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: last Wednesday on the show, and he stepped up in
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: a what a game he had. I'll let Hugh, I'm
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: gonna use a humil in term. I'll let you in
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: a hardcore way, toss the bouquets. Even Worr his way
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: coming up next. All right, that's next.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Rock Bottom is a relative term, very subjective. Someone asked
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: me this weekend, you know I have Koogs hit that
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: with Rogers Departure. I said, no, what we have with
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: basketball with David Riley. But nevertheless I thought so. I
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: thought it was rock bottom with Ernie Kent. Maybe it's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: worse with David Riley. We just hit rock bottom with
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Sarah Spain seven on seven soccer. I move on, okay,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Cumail and let me throw this at you, Nick Emon Worri.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Six tackles, a sack, two tackles for loss, a quarterback hit,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: an interception in a pass defense. That's a pretty good
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: day at the office, isn't it for a defensive back. Yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: that's that's filling the stat board. Oh my god.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: You know there's some people they say, okay, you get six,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: six for a turnover, four for a sack. You know
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: there there's there's a scoreboard for these players. Internally, he
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: feeled it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I think it's important to note that while we think
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of him as a safety, and that's that's what his
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: position says, because it has an S next to his name,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: you know, and you think of him in the go
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: back to the legion in the boom, you think Earl Thomas. Okay,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: that was a single high defense. Earl Thomas was in
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: the post and in fact he was. He had one
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: thousand and eighty one plays in the at safety over
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: one thousand just as the post safety.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: That's Earl.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: So you say, no, he's not really Earl. He's more
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: like Cam right. Well, Cam had four hundred and ninety
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: snaps at safety in twenty thirteen. I'm picking that year
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: because they won the Super Bowl and Cam was the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: post safety. Four hundred and thirty seven snaps. Got me,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: So we're comparing Cam two big safeties, right, Nick Emmin
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Worry has only played safety six snaps this year and
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: only one as the post safety. So again, Cam four
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty seven snaps as the center fielder deep
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and Nick an Rory won. He you know, if I
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: was studying the play, I would just be looking at
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: him and say, well, Seattle's number one in the use
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: of nickel, number one in the NFL, and this guy
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: number three. He just whether he's a linebacker or whether
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: he's a safety, it doesn't matter. He plays a linebacker position, right,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: So he's a really athletic linebacker. I mean, there's that
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: famous saying. I think a lot of our listeners don't
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. Where Brett Farv, you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Ty Detmer tells the story of the best He said Farv.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: You know, he's like in his second third year in
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the league, and he learns it leans over to Ty
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Dettmar and he says, hey, they keep saying Nickel, what
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: does Nickel mean? Ty Detmer says, well, you kid me,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: he thinks he's putting him on. He goes, no, really,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: what does Nickel mean? So well, it just means they
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: take out a linebacker and bring in the fifth d B.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And Farv looks at Ty Denmark goes, who cares? Well
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: when he watched uh, uh Emon Worry, I'm I'm reminded
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: of Farve there. There was a little bit of wisdom
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: in that, because you're you're looking, you're saying, okay, he's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: a sign sam linebacker, whether he's a line his position,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: what he's doing is linebacker ish okay, And and and
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: yet you know they can put him on. They put
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: him on Justin Jefferson and Manda Man when he's in
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: the slot.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: They put him on.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Kyle pitts uh yesterday and in fact he got beat.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Like the best throw that Kirk Cousins had was a
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: great throw on a corner oute to Compits. That's cover
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: one where Emon Worry had outside leverage.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Kyle Pits went over the top. Coppits is one of
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the most talented.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: At least by uh you know, his his four three
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: you know, and and he had and and yet Emon
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Worriy's coverage was so good that it had to be
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: a diving fingertip cat on the best throw of the
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: day by Kirk Cousins.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: So if you're coaching nam And Warriors, Oh, what do
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I do different? Nothing?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's great coverage. Ye right, like because if I
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: asked you to do anything different, you'll change.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: You were fine. You had help to the inside.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: They just they threw the perfect throw and catch to
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: a really fast tight end. Don't worry about it. So
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: that was really his only conspicuous minus. Other than that
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: he's firing his gun, he's he's seeing gaps. His plays
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: tackling was awesome at South South Carolina remains phenomenal. You
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: know the hands when when Witherspoon hits the ball and
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: just a few feet away it tips to em and worry.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: He's got the athleticis in the hands to turn that
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: into an inner interception. That his explosiveness on his sack.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I mean he can just go so damn fast and
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: uh and has a good feel for where the seam
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: is going to open up. It's kind of like a
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: horse race, not the Preakness or the Home because by
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: then they don't have many horses. We're talking about the
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Kentucky Derby where everything's all congested. You know what, you
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: got to find that, like where's the lane to go
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: if you want to make your surge even more when
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you're blitzing and you got all these parts, you got
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: to kind of.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: See where that hole is.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Kind of like a jockey, and I think his instincts
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: to accelerate right through, can't slow down, can't slow down
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: like you got to you know, it's all gas and
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: find a scene without slowing down. And he's showing that
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: he gets the sack out of that. I love watching
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the guy play. He doesn't have Bam BAM's physicality, but
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: who did?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: But who does? Good point? You know, like yeah, but
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Bam Bam can't move like this kid. No, right, no,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and accelerate like this kid. I don't know if you
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: heard we had we had him on the show last Wednesday, Hugh.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And and as you're describing the positional play and the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: snaps that Earl had at posts, et cetera. When I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: introduced Nick on the show last week, and I just
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I went through like seahawk defensive back, safety, the line back,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, and he kind of laughed, and so I
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: like the introduction. I soa, I honestly don't know how
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to introduce you, because usually say, hey, Seahawk defensive end
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: so and so, Seahawk running back so and so, Seahawk
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: wide receiver so and so. This dude real quick before
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I gotta go, But I gotta ask you this. Yeah,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the credit for him and how versaally he is obviously
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: his athletic traits and who he is as a player,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: but some credit has to go to how McDonald utilizes
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: him too, right.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, I remember now he had Kyle Hamilton, a big, tall, rangy,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: very instinctive, first round draft picks safety out of Notre Dame,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: who he said, Hey, this guy so versaally tackles well,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: he's got length, he can cover tight ends, he's got
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: quickness and strength, he can man up against little shifty guys,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and so the versatility. And then you say, well, at
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: his tape at South Carolina didn't show the instincts that
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Hamilton had at Notre Dame. So if you were grading them,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: he'd say, Emon Worry is a better athlete, but Hamilton
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: is a more instinctive player. But with Mike McDonald, Donald's
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: tutelage even worry. It's like, you know, it's like they say, uh,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: in the business world, if you work for a big
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: six accounting firm, it's like, you know, two one year
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: is like two in the regular world, right, Like one
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: year with with Mike McDonald is like two or three
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: with anybody else in terms of how you just acquire
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the knowledge. I don't want to say instincts, but but
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: but the the inclinations uh to uh to be in
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the right spot. So so I think, yeah, that that's
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: how he's being coached.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, my friend. I appreciate it. I will talk
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: to you next next Monday. Man, thank you Hamberdown there
• 38:41
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• 38:47
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• 38:49
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• 38:53
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• 38:56
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  Speaker 2: it out. Hello, sir, how are you. I'm doing great?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: How are you good? Really good? Really good? Despite the
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: dreariness it is the winter months here to the Northwest.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: We we trudged through it, buddy, We trudged through it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: That's what we do.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: So, you know, Mondays was kind of my a little
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: bit of recovery day, you know, from Sunday. Yeah, And
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: so I took our dog up for a walk today. Man,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: it was raining, you know, we're here in atmospheret rivers
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: coming and you know, you did a couple of miles
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: out there, and he was so the problem is getting
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: him back in the house. He's so freaking wet, it's
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: like he's been underwater. And then he comes and jumps
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: all over the cat. You know, I gotta have like
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: five towels on the porch. Unbelievable.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: But we love it. We love it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: We still love living here.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Still. That's why we're here.
• 41:04
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• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I lived away for a long time, and when I
• 41:06
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• 41:09
  Speaker 2: but but no, I wouldn't let anywhere else having lived elsewhere. Hey,
• 41:13
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• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the wall here, just behind the scenes, because I was curious.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: And for anybody who's read your pick six calm, it
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: is awesome and it's massive and enters in there nodding
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: his head. It's very extensive. The work that you put
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: into it, it is. It's really incredible, all the detail,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the people you talk to around the league, the numbers
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: you come up with. What is a Sunday like for
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Mike Sando as he gets ready to put together this
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: monstrosity every Sunday night Monday morning.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Well, it's more organized than it used to be. And
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: when I first started doing this column in twenty nineteen,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I didn't really have my processes down and so it
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: would be super overly, you know, like chaotic and really
• 41:54
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• 41:57
  Speaker 4: already started sketching in some things for next week because
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: there's some things I'm interested in I want to and
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: then it gives me the whole week to think about them.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: So I do a lot of my research and stuff
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: before the games happen, kind of knowing what direction I
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: want to go most of the things I can do.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes the game goes in a certain way
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: that you're not going to do it that week. But
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff I've kind of got going
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: all week. So by the time we get to you know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I'll put in some time on Friday and Saturday of
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: maybe even starting to sketch you in a couple of
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: things if I think I'm going to do them, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: really Saturday morning at about six I get into my
• 42:33
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• 42:36
  Speaker 4: to to really pour in and I'll try to get
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: a couple of those things, maybe even somewhat written. Like today,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: for example, we had a piece I knew I was
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: going to do something, probably on Washington's roster being so old, right,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: so I'm researching the old George Allen teams over the
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: helld Gang, and then it sort of worked out that
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: they lost thirty one to nothing, Like if they had
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: one thirty one the nothing, it's still a good story
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: to do, but probably it might just fall by the wayside.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: But I had that kind of largely done before the
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: game started on on, you know what I mean. On
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: So you get a couple two or those things kind
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: of going early in the day and then by the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You shoot it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: It was one am before we finished.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: So it's an amazing piece of work, man, really is
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: every Monday. I love reading it and I appreciate you
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: coming on with us to discuss. We'll get to the
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Over the Hill Gang aka sorry Jess dan Quinn's Washington
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Commander's team in a second, horrible thing for zach Ertz
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: yesterday watching him go down, and Bobby's well, John Schnuder
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Knwobby was old a couple of years ago. So we'll
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: get to that in a second. Let me start with this.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I tease this going into our break. It appears that
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: chiefs are done. If they are, why what went wrong
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: at six and seven? What went wrong at the perennial
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: power in the AFC year in and year out the
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: last few years? What happened here?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, I think that they do not they need
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: another pass rusher. I think their pass rush is not
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: what it had been before.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: And then I think the.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Reliability of the receiving options for mahomes when they really
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: got to have it, and last night was a game
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: where they really needed to be on point and probably
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: play a fairly error free game, and they come right
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: out and drop a pass right away. So I think
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: those are the If those two things were better, I
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: think that they might be the number one seed this year.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Now beyond that, I do think that there are some
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: structural issues with their offense, which is still highly ranked,
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: and all of that in they have lost explosiveness because
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: they do not present a credible threat to run the ball,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: and I think that that is something they need to
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: really evaluate this offseason to make things easier for Mahomes,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: especially if he's not going to have guys he can trust.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: You know, Kelsey's going to be done or you know,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: close to it, and Rashi Rice and these other guys.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Rashi Rice, you don't know if he's going to be available.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: And then as Avier Worthy's a little guy. Little guys
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: are hard to be consistent, you know, right to just
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: down and down. If you're an undersized guy at receiver,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: you're a role player.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: You're not the guy.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: So I feel like he needs a guy, another guy
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: or two there that would really help him, especially if
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: they could convince you that they just might run the
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: ball here from under center and be harder to defend
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: in the run like a dynamic back. I think could
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: really help them get there.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yep, I think they feels like to me and Mike,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've talked to anybody around the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: league about this particular thing. I'm gonna ask you, And
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: this is honestly, I'll be honest with This is coming
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: probably from a fantasy football perspective, and that's how most
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: of us watch the NFL these days, right is you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: how's my guy doing? I just feel like there's way
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: too many times in which the Chiefs they might get
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: a couple solid runs from a Pacheco or even a
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Hunt or whatever, and then they get away from it,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: like they just get away from it. And like you
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and I both talked to enough coaches over the years,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the hardest thing about running the football is being committed
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: to running the football and being disciplined and you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: not being tempted to get away from it. And I
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: don't know, it feels like there's a philosophical issue there
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: sometimes with Kansas City as much as anything.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: It's so funny and I saw some people saying today
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: and I don't necessarily disagree that, you know, the idea
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: that they miss whatever Eric Banemy's role was, they miss it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: But you can't convince me that he was the one
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: to make him run the ball, because when he got
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: to call the offense in Washington, they threw the ball
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: every play with Sam Howell, So that sort of blew
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: that theory. But I do think he was a I
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: do think the enemy was kind of a you know,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: sort of an irascible, grumpy, hard ass type of guy
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: who wasn't afraid to get in anyone's face, even Mahomes,
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: you know. And I think so there could be some
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: issues there just in personalities on staff that maybe behind
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: the scenes that could help them, or you know, somebody
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: and you read we all know wants to throw it.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: He just does.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: So do they need a top back, a dynamic back
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: to make them run it. Another thing is remember during
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: the year, a little bit of a thing that's gone
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: by the way boards here they asked, and you read
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: about it, and he kind of said that Patrick Mahomes
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: changes lot of those plays. Yeah, yeah, Well Mahomes is
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: probably getting that line going, Look, I want to hand
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: off to this guy when it's when the defense isn't
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: even worried, and I know if I'm having in my hands,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: I can make a play, right, I think that, So
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: I think that's where they do need to get some
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: of that to really help him and then.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Mike Santa with us. The opposite of that, unfortunately, is
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: if you are too reliant on the run, and that
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: would be the Indianapolis Colts, who now are have also
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: lost Daniel Jones, and what was just a dream season
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: for them has I'm not going to say it's over
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: at eight and five, but boy, their prospects to go
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: deep into the playoffs or even when an a playoff
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: game if they get there, seem to have taken a
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: rather substantial hit. With Riley Leonard now the quarterback.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, no doubt, but I think they were going
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: to fall short anyway, maybe out of the playoffs. They
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: probably would have made the playoffs, but I just feel
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: like their limitations is a team that really leans into
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: the run was already catching up to them, and Daniel Jones,
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: well you know good and good can run. The offense
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: doesn't add a lot, isn't you know? You can see
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: it on third down some of the red zone stuff.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: So I think now the fascinating part about this is,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: let's just say they missed the playoffs or they're not
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: going to win a playoff game, probably without Daniel Jones. Now,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: how do you do you honestly assess yourself in the
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: off season about what would have happened if Jones were healthy?
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: And where do you go on a contract with him? Right,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you probably want to reward him in some way, and
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: the locker room seems to love him, and no doubt
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: he's made a huge difference, But that's a little bit
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: tricky when someone's coming off of an acl ask Atlanta
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: with her cousins. Right, you never really got back. Now
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: he's a lot older, but you know, what's some mobility
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: going to be like for Daniel Jones for the next year.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I think they have a whole bunch of things that's
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: going to come down to how honest can they really
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: be about what they are and what they need to be.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Mike sandler Us from the Athletic NFC Wise, Mike in
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: the at the top no longer is should the one seed.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: They go from the one seed to the seventh seed
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: with one with one loss, uh, but they still sit
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: there at nine and four they're in the postseason there,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I guess what would that be a game ahead of
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Detroit right at eight and five? Right now? Uh, and
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Carolina is still sniffing it at seven and six. It
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: feels like that's I'm looking at this right now. I
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: don't we keep thinking San Francisco is gonna fall off?
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Is it a what would it be one two three
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: team race for one spot that last spot in the NFC? Uh?
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean you're you're counting Chicago or there.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to think, like Carolina is still
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: in a Dallas at six, six and one.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Probably not, but probably not. I think it's probably Carolina Detroit,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: you know, would be those teams, you know, just because
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Dallas that was a big loss for them. I don't
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: rule it out, but I think that was a tough
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: loss for them. So yeah, you just don't feel like
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: most those teams, you feel, I have some flaws, you.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Know, but Chicago is still you kind of run about.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Chicago still didn't lose that much despite dropping six spots
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: or seven fives.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, yeah, yeah, you know, we lean on
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: you know, projection models and that sort of a thing,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: and I think their percentage went down eight or ten percent.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: It's a lot, but there's still it's still really high.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: It can slip away, though, you know, I did think
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: for them coming down this stretch. You know, Okay, they
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: lose to Green Bay. Now they play Cleveland, which is
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: probably a win. But they have a good defense and
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: should or Sanders played pretty well yesterday and then you
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: got Green Bay champions to Detroit. So if they would
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: only win one more game, I think they probably still
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: make it. They could be ten and seven and make it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: But what if they lost to Detroit in the last game.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: You know, I think it could get dicey for them.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Well, how are things going for our buddy Dan Quinn?
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: What a what a crazy fall? Right sitting there at
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: three and ten after getting the NFC title game last year?
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: What is it?
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Strictly we're aging out? Jane Daniels being hurt certainly didn't
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: help for often hurt again, always heard it feels like,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: but what's going on with DQ in that team?
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Well, from a DQ standpoint, you figure he's fine, you know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: after going to the championship game and then having one
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: down year. But I just sense in watching him that
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: he's feeling some pressure, and I think when you look
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: at he already you know, took away the play calling
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: from his decordinator. I mean, to me, those are desperation
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: type moves. Like to me, when you go to the
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: championship game, if everyone's on board with what's going on
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: there and hey, we're just having a tough year, like
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: you don't have to do that. So that's a little
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: bit alarming to me. And I know Detroit did it too,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: but they were sort of like out of their coordinator
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: left anyway, you know, Ben Johnson, and so they replaced theirs.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: It's not the alarm bells. I think Dan Campbell's fine.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: He's got multiple years there, they've been in the playoffs,
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: he's turned it around. For Quinn to have to do that,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: to me, it's a little bit of a bad sign.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: And then he also got pinned on him, even though
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: I think it was a little unfair that he's the
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: one who got Jaden Daniels hurt. Yeah, So these are
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: all things that make me like, Okay, what's going to
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: go on there now? I think their issue is roster related.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I think certainly some of those old guys you talked about,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: and then just some of these acquisitions they've made of
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: the Deebo Samuel types, or the corner they got from
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: They got the corner from the Saints, you know a
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: couple of years ago, who was kind of on the
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: on the back nine, and and you know, just has
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: never really been a super consistent performer. So I think
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: there are roster issues for them, and some of it
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: is age.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: On top of that, Bobby looks old. I love Bobby Wagner.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Every Seahawk fan should love Bobby Wagner. Bobby looks old.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I thought he looked old last year. He was well
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: his second tenure in Seattle for the one year, right,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: and then I forgot Nick Belore was there. I forgot
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: that Nick was the oldest. Nick was the oldest player
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: on the Seahawks his last three years. I think that
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: he was here before he went and joined DQ.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: So you know, and younger fans may not know, but
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: like the old Washington team, the Redskins and early seventies
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: had this famous over the Hill gang, and all these
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: guys were like thirty seven, thirty six, thirty five. You
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: know that You look at the videos and pictures of
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: him now and they look like they're fifty years.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Old, Okay, I was just gonna tell you that the
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: picture you guys have a sunny Jergensen in the athletics
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: story today. Yeah, he's thirty seven years old. I think
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: in that picture we say that's when Yeah, like I
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: dare say that, you know, none of us that are
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: in our fifties and sixties look like that guy. Like
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: that's a hard thirty seven sunny Jergensen and.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: He's ninety one now, and he was doing he was
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: doing like their radio until the last few years. So
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: uh yeah, I agree.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of beers were tipped back. You know,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: he wasn't exactly they came to They came to camp
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: to get in shape back then. But anyway, that was
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: the team known for being super old. They got called
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: him the over the hill gang, bunch of veterans. They
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: were good though, and by some measures, this Washington team
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: is is older than that one, than that seventy one team.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Now that's those teams got older as it along, But
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: still you don't want to be on that list. Especially
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: in today's game. It's less likely to become a super
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: old team just because of the way the system is
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: set up, with the draft being cheaper to get players
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: that way, and a lot of the older players have
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: actually been phased out. You see fewer guys in their twelve, thirteen,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: fourteen years, So that's a bad spot to be in.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I always say, bet, you know, old plus bad equals fired.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: That's true for I don't think that's true for dan Quinn.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: If it is, they're a bad organization. But you know
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: you can't do it again next year.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, you cannot. Quick thought from Mike Sandal on
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks yesterday, win number ten on the season, all
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: but as sure a playoff spot at ten and three.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: They're thinking about the division and that showdown with the
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Rams coming up a week from Thursday this week when
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: they take on the Rams in Seattle. But thoughts from
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Mike Sandal on the local team.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Well, I think they look great. I think they're really
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Some of these teams that are in the playoff phrase,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: they're in different phases of their team. So when I
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: see a team like Seattle or even New England, they're
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: relatively new with their coaches and they're not as good
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: as they're going to be, but they're already good. I
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: think that's a great spot to be in. And one
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: of the tables I think I put in the in
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: the pick six column today was showing Seattle one of
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: the youngest teams in the league and one of the best.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: So it's the opposite of old and bad. If you're
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: young and really good and ascending, I mean, that's everything
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: you want to be. So I think it was inevitable
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: they were going to blow out Atlanta. It just took
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: a little bit of time. We still need to you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: we still in the back of our minds. Donald risks
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: the ball some we saw it yesterday. He's got to
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: get that under control a little bit against the better team.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: He'll have a chance to do here down the stretch.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Do that here down the stretch. But I love where
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: they're at. I love where their defense is at, the
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: vibe on the team. I think the coach is good,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: just just really really all around a great situation.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Mike. You know, I couldn't let you go without Hall
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: of Fame talk. You know that wouldn't happen. There's no
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: way that I'm gonna let you go without some Hall
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: of Fame conversation. Yeah, I was surprised you wrote this,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: and maybe you can explain us why both Belichick and
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Bill Belichick Robert Crawt are on the is it semi
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: final list right now? For the Hall of Fame of
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Right, No, they're going to be in the room.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: In the room, okay, so finals, they'll be final us.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: You don't think they'll both go in together? Why not?
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Because we saw last year what happened to Holmgren. I mean,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Mike Holmgren had all kinds of support and only one
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: of these five people got in, and it was Serving Charp.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: And so here's the problem is each voter, there's fifty voters,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: has to vote for three of the five. Okay, if
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Belichick gets fifty of the fifty votes out of fifty,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: then there's only one hundred votes to go around for
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: the remaining four people, and they have to get at
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: least forty of the fifty to get in.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: So mouth doesn't work.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it just doesn't work. To me, It's like Craft
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: could have some support, But to me, Roger Craig is
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: I would vote.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I like Roger Craig a lot too.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: I think Roger Craig was the rare running back, especially
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: in that era, but in any era.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Who could do it all.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: He could be a starting fullback for you.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yep, he could block.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: He could be a thousand yard receiver for you, one
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: thousand yard rusher. He could be short yardage, goal line, yeah,
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: you name it. He could take it fifty yards. I
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: mean to me, he's a great player, and so he's
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: gonna get support. Ken Anderson's gonna get support.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: L C.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Greenan is gonna get support. I don't see how it
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: happens to get Craft.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: In and Belichick's a no brainer. We all get that.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I mean the Super Bowl rings. He holds up a
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: hand and then has to hold up another one. That's
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: how it works. I you know, it's interesting this. My
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: friend Mike Sannel will hate when I say this. There
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I hall of Fame. To me, there's times that you
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: just go nay, like say a name hall of Famer,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: yes or no, like right, it's just is that guy
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer? And to me, I'm just I'm
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: surprised Roger Craig isn't a Hall of Famer yet. He
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: just yeah, I've always thought him like Dale Murphy and me,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame. By the way,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: that's my little side tangent for a second, if Jeff
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: if Jeff kentson the Hall of Fame, my god, But
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: like Roger Craig everything you just said, the forty nine
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: ers in those glory days and homegern will tell us this, right, like,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: they're not the forty nine ers without that guy. They're
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: not having that success without him.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean they're still going to be a
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: really good team. But he was a huge part of it,
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: right left, Yes, huge, huge part of it. I think
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: what hurts him is that he's unlike other players. We
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: compare people against each other who are in the same positions.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: So when you compare two wide receivers, that's one thing.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: But when you have somebody like Roger Craig, he's not.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Just we're not comparing Roger Craig to Frank Gore right,
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: or or to somebody else. Curtis Martin, who has a
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: lot of yards. He's in a little bit of a
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: different category. He's he's a little bit of Marshall Faulk,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: but not as dynamic as Fulk. He as a route runner,
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: that sort of a thing. But you know how many
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: guys He's not going to have ten fifteen hundred yard
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: seasons or twelve hundred gard seasons rushing. But he's gonna
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: He's almost a little bit like Marcus Allen. He's just
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: such a great football player all the way around.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: It's good stuff. You guys will have a tough some
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: tough decisions, my friend. Thank you so much. Go read
• 58:56
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• 58:58
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• 59:01
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• 59:03
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  Speaker 5: Okay, for just a quick heads up, the standings are posted. Okay,
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: as of now, I do have a winner. Sometimes there
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: are mistakes that I do make, so I leave about
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  Speaker 2: For eight hours you're working on it, you're working through
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  Speaker 2: it exactly. Okay, so just hanging there, yeah, hanging there.
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  Speaker 2: It's only ten thousand dollars. Yeah, it's worth the weight,
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  Speaker 2: mood today. It's a dreary day. I think that's what
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: it is. I think that's what it is. It's it's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: but it's the holiday season. Folks, put some lights up
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: in your house. We did that. God, I mean, what
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: a difference. I'll be honest with you. It does make it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: We had the Great fur Nest flood of twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: four last year. I forgot about that. It is the worst. God,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: it was the worst. For those who don't remember, our
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: washing machine. Washing machines have sensors on them. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: tell you when they're full, and then they stop filling
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  Speaker 2: water up and they start to cycle. And ours sensor
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: failed us last October third, yes I know the date.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: And it flooded from upstairs downs. I just was a nightmare.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: We did nothing last year Christmas decoration wise, because we
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: are still living in boxes, and it was you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: both daughters. They they she and her husband have a husband.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I say a husband. That's yeah, they have a house.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: They bought a house in Nescus, so they're not with us.
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  Speaker 2: And Keifer was still in school, so it was just
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: the two of us. We you know, we did nothing
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  Speaker 2: last year for four decorations. We put them up this year.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it makes a difference, like it just
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: like you know, it lights up. Yeah, we put stuff.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: We pulled out decorations. I say we My wife pulled
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: out decorations that we haven't pulled out for a while.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm honestly because it just it's it makes lights out.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Keifer and I put lights in the front. We didn't
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: do that last year, so we've it just feels I know, man,
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  Speaker 2: it's dreary right now, I get it. But put some
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: lights up to something, try to enjoy the all this.
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  Speaker 2: And I bring that up for this reason. I look
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: at this thing. This is the first this is the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: first thing that I see from the two of six
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: year Oka. Why do you guys leave with a bunch
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: of talk about the Redskins with Sandy who cares. Two things.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: They're the Commanders now Sando, and we actually do an
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: NFL segment with Sando. And we didn't lead with the Commanders.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: We led with I brought up the Chiefs, which I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: think is relevant being is the team that goes to
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl every year from that conference is out?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: But that's why. So who cares people care about the NFL.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I can't help you. So that's that's grumpy person number one.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: There's two six two six. Since when do we play
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: inconsequential Bowl games on the same day as Army Navy game?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: And I'm both ex military and you do graduate. Oh
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: by the way, go Army beat Navy. Check that numbers
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  Speaker 2: that great? Now, I didn't got you, didn't got you,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: deab So since when do we play inconsequential bowl games
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: on the same well, because that's just the day it
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: falls there. It is what it is world. I'm surprised
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: how early the label is though, trying to fit them
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: all in. And oh, by the way, it's in so
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: far you got to fit that in. Betwe two NFL teams, right, yeah,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I mean scheduling, and all due respect to Army Navy,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: not everybody in the country cares about Army Navy. I know. Sorry,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it's but it's amazing. It's amazing and justin Gregord be
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: their Friday. But I get why they're doing it. They
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: play it there. Heisman's that day as well. I think
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: the bigger question is why is there a bowl game
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: going on opposite the Heisman ceremony? Yeah, because that's when
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: it's going on. Actually, I do believe if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: But anyway, we move on. But see where else is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the next one that was?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll read, I'll read it. I'll do a couple
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: of months. All right, No, actually this one go into
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  Speaker 2: my first cracking games night. Anything random cool that is
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: a must do at the arena. Be there early please.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: So two things. One, go see my friends at Queen
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Aneber I'll beforehand, Yes, treat yourself to a smash burger.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Best smash burgers in town. They are absolutely sensation. Best
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: pregame spot around is the Queen and it's a short
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: five minute walk up the hill and you're at the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: at the arena. So I highly, highly highly recommend the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Queen An Beer Hall. That's number one. Jess is right,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: get there, be in your seats when the opening ceremonies
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: and stuff that their game production. I had somebody that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: works for an NFL team tell me the other day.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: He said, I've been to every NFL stadium, been all
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: across all these places. The game production, the Kraken game production,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: my man Lamont Beufford does it is the best he's
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: seen in any sport anywhere. So it's unbelievable. Yeah, say
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: it's phenomenal.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Be so.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I yeah. My son and his buddies went to the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: game on Saturday, and Kiever had been there before, but
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: a couple of friends had never been there. And they said,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: and I said, make sure you're in your seats by
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: six fifty five of the latest, at the very latest.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: If you're there at six fifty two, don't look at
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: the big screens because I'll be on them tonight. So
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: it don't do that. Because foorest one's awesome. I'm feeling
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: in for Oh I am going to be filming. But
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the other part of it is in the second mission
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: right tonight. Second yeah, second, yep, Yeah, we got a
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: thing Softy Infane are doing the bungee pole thing. Oh no,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: one on one one v one Yeah, So be in
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: your seats for that. Now, if you're not at the
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. If you're not at the game, I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: know this. Our production truck has been fully informed of
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: such an event and there will be that will be
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: on the ball all over the internet. It will be
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: on it will be on the broadcast tonight. Let's go. Okay,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: so that'll be good. So yeah, get there early. Must
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: do with the arena. Just get there to make sure
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: you're there. Check out the team. So it's awesome, but
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: just get there early. Okay. Uh, let's see final thing?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Oh what's that?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: I can't wait for the Kellogg strawberry and cream for
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: Rousted Minivate Bowl.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like doing. We played in the Jesus Bowl, like
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: you're playing all kinds of crazy goals. Okay. Somebody asked,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: do I like Eggno? Are you fan of eggnot?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Yes? You do?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Has to be a moderation though, And it's like Christmas,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: and I hate the people that try and make all
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: of November Christmas time too.
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  Speaker 2: Now in moderation.
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  Speaker 3: And it is.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: It's the bigger question is with the eggnog, what do
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: you put with it? That's the question. Okay, Yeah, that's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: a good one. I go with clear rum, white rum,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: like just clear but whatever, just cheap and go cheap.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter. But just clear but clear rum, okay,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: white rum, whatever you want to call it. I haven't
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: tried the spice frum. I might do that. It's good.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Listen. You can also go bourbon. A lot of people
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: do that as well, and I just I have I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: don't have any swill bourbon that I want to put
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: an eggnog. Yeah, I have a pretty decent collection of
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: brown water, and I just want it on rocks. I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: don't need it an eggnog. So I need to, like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I guess, to do that, right, I'd have to buy
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: something crummy that gives us a good segue into tomorrow,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: because it's not crummy because, like I said, I have
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: good brown water, like really good. We're gonna be at
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Chambers Bay. I will be at Chambers Bay tomorrow, Chambers
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Bay Distillery Tasting Room down in University Place right on
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Bridgeport Avenue. We will be there tomorrow. I will be
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: there tomorrow from one till three. They're going to open
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: up early. They've got all kinds of specials going on.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking, if you're like me, and a
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: lot of your gifts include Spirits great place to go
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: to get your spirit stuff taken care of. In terms
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: of your Christmas gifts. They also have this year's version
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: of their Captain's Reserve Bourbon, which is their high end
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: top shelf stuff, coming out debuting tomorrow. I am told
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: it's the best one they've ever done. Now I will
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: confirm that tomorrow because I can't just take somebody's word
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: for it, Alan, Jeff, I can't just take your word
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: for it. I need to confirm that it's the best
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I have. Sounds like I have a smidge left of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: last year's like just a I hoard, like when I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: get to the end, like just no one else. Uh yeah,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: my son likes it now too.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Souch.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Just kind of a bad thing. Yeah, But anyway, we'll
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: be down there tomorrow, honestly, and I'll tell you why
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: we're going to be there, because those guys are awesome.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: They donate so much every year to the Mayor and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Maple Valley Open. They bring their whiskey wagon out there
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: and they donate everything, and it's just we make a
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: really nice amount of money just off of what they
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: do for us. And I go down there and we're
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: gonna do a two hour infomercial and thank those guys
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: and urge you to come by. I can't make it tomorrow.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: At some point during the holidays, swing by, especially down
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: in Tacoma area, swing by their tasting room, grab a
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Kraft cocktail or grab a bottle for Christmas, for the holidays.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: But I can't thank those guys enough. There's a handful
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: of companies, really a lot of companies and people on
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: individuals that we could not do. The mayor Maple Valley
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Open with out and Georgetown is at the top of
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: the list, and right there with them, and Prime Electric
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: and Lone River Ranch Water our chambers made the stealery.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Those guys are all just massive, massive parts of what
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: we do, and so we're going down there to thank
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: them tomorrow. Eggnog, the only winning move is not to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: play stop it. Eggnog's great. Oh this is gonna be okay.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: We'll just get into this tomorrow, all right, We'll just
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: keep the debate going. This is like a relapse of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: our Thanksgiving timy conversation. Brown sugar, bourbon and eggnog will
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: change your life. That's I'm not sure I might have
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: to take my son's insulin at that point. Brown sugar,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: eggnog and bourbon.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a lot.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just like dang, I check my blood sugar at
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: that point. Man, all right, we get We're gonna We'll
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: continue this conversation tomorrow. All right, Fane joined us. Next.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: All right, two things before I get to the Friday
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: game that you called, oh still busting, I'm still buzzed.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: We had two really good games, and we get I'm
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: three and four a uh say, high school champion. Shout
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: out to Oday and Sumner the two and the other
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Friday game is really good and all the schools that
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: want it. Yeah, before I get to that, I'm just
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: telling Andrews this in the break he's he's I think
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: he's in a booth out there prepping for the pregame show.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: We've all done this, sent the text to the wrong thread.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So we have a we have a text
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: chain with the Crack and broadcast crew that is kind
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: of an internal thing. They give us a little heads
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: up if someone's going on the injured list, or here's
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: the lineups for tonight before they get both, just so
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: we can do our prep work and all that very
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: kind of just very kind of quiet official, very official. Yeah,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: nobody's the whole the banter banter. It's not like a
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: text threw between me Jackson Softie. No, no, no, no,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: it's not like us boys.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we have the hockey Boys one. We have
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: a mollywop one. No, it's not like that. This is
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: like going off on tangents.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Thread. Yeah, there's no way we would ever make the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: molluwap thread public. That would get a lot of people
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: in trouble. Oh yeah, but this is just here's the lineups. Thanks.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: So we get the lamps and all of a sudden,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I see this thing and it's like, oh, what the
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: hell we just got something else happened because they put
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Berkeley caton on or he's not on injury reserve. He's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: missed a couple weeks, so he broke his hand or
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: hurt his hand or something. Anyway, two thirty four PM
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: I miss you too from Mike Benton, followed up by
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: it and there it is a text of the wrong
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: person missus Benton. Sorry, folks, carry on. Everyone's just busting
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: his chops. It's the most no two things. It's very
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: bent like yes, very bent like but very smoot. We've
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: all done that. Yes, we've all sent it to you know,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: love you too, whatever to your wife or whatever it is.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: And then it's like, oh, I actually sent that to Anders. Yes,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I love you, but not like that, John Forestland, I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: miss you so much, Mikey, I can't take it. I
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: think Forland's in Toronto tonight for a game. Excellent. You
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: get to do the broadcast tonight. Yeah, I'll be on
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: the call tonight. So uh, bumps to TV, right and you.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I do TV every TV y ever it does, Everet does.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: So Foresland does Monday Night hockey on Prime Network in Canada.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: It's a Canada Monday Night Hockey Canada thing. It's like
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Thursday football fir. Yeah, but it's only in Canada for
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: the most part. So it's so he does those Monday nights.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: So Monday night games at home I do on TV
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Monday night games on the road on TV ever it does, okay, yeah,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: and then be will do the radio for those, so
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: and then you and then yeah, Andrews gets a host.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so there's one of the seven or eight
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: games I'm doing at home this year. So yeah, Minnesota today.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: You got to do a hell of a game on Friday.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Oh it's fabulous. Lance McGee man, I'm still buzzing about
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: this kid.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: Six touchdowns, almost four hundred yards rushing, broke every single championship.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Game record that could be broken in every classific gags.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: That was a Saturday game. Saturday, I'm taking Friday. I'm sorry.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Saturday game. Yeah, Saturday, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, Friday. It
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: was great too.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: It didn't go to overtime and didn't and didn't have
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: seventy six points score no weather.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: It wasn't bad.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: Huh, not bad because you were think of going in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: that that would have really kind of messed it up, right,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: would have messed up the passing games? Yes, and really
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: only when one team through when that was Lake Stevens. Yeah,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: I mean I think I think Sumner through twice.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Keith.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: When you've got a running back averaging ten yards of carry,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: to just keep giving him the ball, he had forty
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: he had like forty four carries.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's awesome. How about Oregon State?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: How is it?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: How is how is Husky Stadium? For the station? I
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: thought that was good. It was the first time I'd
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: ever first time I've ever done a game. Is it
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: too big? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: I mean I my perspective was from the press box,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: and I thought I thought it was really cool.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Only asked that for this for I think it's cool
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: you get to play in a big time stadium is
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Austin as a kid, but I always I did the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: state championships in Oregon for a few years, and we
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: used to them at PG Park and then that got remodeled,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: so we ended up doing the last two or three
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: years I did at Austin. This is that'd be cool
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: at Addsin. The only thing with Austin they only had
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: fans on one side, and I thought it was odd.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: It was just too they had fans on both sides.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: You got to do that, Yeah, that's what I thought.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Our fans were behind there. Yeah, and they split it
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: down the middle like from the forty five to the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: twenty forty five to the twenty It was I just
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: didn't like it. So No, it's great, good, great, Well,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad we do that on KJR. Next
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: up is his high school basketball championships in March down
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: at Yes, Yes, it'll be a lot warmer there and
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: the whare we go? All right? What we got coming
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: up today? Oh big show.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: We've got to Representative Adam Smith's going to join us
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: in the four o'clock hour after we spent an entire
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: hour with Hught breaking down the Seahawks game, because we
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: got to do that from three to four.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to talk about that the score act
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: and how up in the air it is.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: And I guess the votes came into are the they
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: pushed it off, so there's gonna be no votes. We're
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: gonna find out what the what the update is on
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: not because college football obviously needs to do there's a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: lot of things in college football that need to be fixed.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk to him about that at at
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: four o'clock.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: Cliff, he's gonna join us at five, Cliff Avril all
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: right talking about it. I'm I'm gonna ask him.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I'll say, so, Cliff, how much better is this defensive line?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: That clip for me?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Save that, Cliff, And then our.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: Resident, our resident baseball expert, Chuck pal is gonna break
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: down the Jose Ferrer Harry Ford Tree.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Weird one, Yeah, it's one weird Yeah, it's a interesting one. Okay.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Uh and I'll see you tonight at the arena. Yes,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: second mission, second a mission. Yes, bungee poll or whatever
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: it is, Softy versus Fain and the bungee. I was gonnae.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: Now I have to go.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just word as long. I don't care
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: what happens, as long as I come out unscathed. Yeah's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: you're fine.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: I don't care if he drags me around like a
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: rag doll because he weighs forty pounds more than I do. Fine,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: as long as I don't, I come out with all
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: fingers toes, no brick and broken bones, no acls.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: One of you works out every day and one of
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: you doesn't. That's true. That's a good point.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Put my miles into our rated day factor fiction. I'm
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: picking Fain.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness. This is
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: paddled day saying so long everyone,