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The Rita Panahi Show | 5 June · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scaring Lils Ostrodio.
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Speaker 2: This is the Winner Panalty Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening, Anne, Welcome to the reader Panety Show. Coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight, the Safety Commissioner abandons her court byte with
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Speaker 3: Elon Masks X and eleat football like facing a full
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Speaker 3: match band for refusing to celebrate Pridemark. Nigel Farag attacked
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Speaker 3: in the UK after launching his election campaign in Essex.
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Speaker 3: Joining me tonight Senator Alex Antik Josh Hammer with the
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Speaker 3: latest from the US and Alex Phillips with the UK
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Speaker 3: report and of course your favorite lefties losing it. Joining
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Speaker 3: me now is Deputy Director of the Institute of Public
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Speaker 3: Affairs Daniel Wild Dan, Let's start with Julie Edman Grand,
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Speaker 3: the Safety Commissioner who today abandoned her federal court battle
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Speaker 3: with Elon Musk, sparked by her demand that Extra move
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Speaker 3: videos of the alleged terror event in a wakely church
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Speaker 3: in Sydney. Dan, She's now going to be testing the
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Speaker 3: validity of her office's powers through the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of today's developments?
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Speaker 4: Well, this is a significant development. I think it shows
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Speaker 4: that Julie in Mangrant's position is now untenable and she
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Speaker 4: should step aside from that role. The reason for that
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Speaker 4: is it was clearly overreach for her to go to
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Speaker 4: the Federal Court, and that was clear when what the
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Speaker 4: Justice had to say about the matter. I don't doubt
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Speaker 4: that Julian Mangrant believes that she's doing the right thing
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Speaker 4: by the community. But the issue is that there is
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Speaker 4: a significant amount of power that has been invested into
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Speaker 4: that role, where now we basically have one individual that's
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Speaker 4: able to make determinations about the content of what should
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Speaker 4: or should not be online based on her own subjective opinions.
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Speaker 4: And the problem is that we know that Julian Mangrant,
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Speaker 4: whatever her intentions might be, she has a history of
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Speaker 4: political activism and we saw that with the Voice to Parliament.
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Speaker 4: So I don't think Australians think it's appropriate that you
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Speaker 4: have one individual that should be policing not only the
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Speaker 4: Internet in Australia. But remember she wanted to take this
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Speaker 4: content down everywhere around the world, and that is dramatic overreach.
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Speaker 3: That was what was so extraordinary. I mean, she is
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Speaker 3: a left wing activist. That she was appointed by a
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Speaker 3: coalition government is to their eternal shame that they did
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Speaker 3: not check her out sufficiently. But again, this office was
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Speaker 3: initially created to protect children, to get rid of child
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Speaker 3: exploitation material from the world wide Web. Not not what
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Speaker 3: she is doing now removing posts that are saying things
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Speaker 3: like men can't breastfeed Somehow, that's the sort of shocking
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Speaker 3: hate speech that we can't be subjected to. So let's
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Speaker 3: keep an eye on this one, because I don't think
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Speaker 3: we've heard the last of this saga. To be honest
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Speaker 3: with you, I know she's abandoned this court fight, but
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Speaker 3: this issue is not dead yet to Victoria. Now and
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Speaker 3: those who protested against Victoria's harsh lockdowns are taking legal
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Speaker 3: action after a judge rule Victoria police used unlawful and
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Speaker 3: unjustified violence during the COVID nineteen pandemic. Five protesters are
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Speaker 3: suing the state over their unlawful detentions following a rally
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Speaker 3: in Melbourne on May nine, twenty one. More than a
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Speaker 3: dozen protesters were arrested that day after clashes with police,
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Speaker 3: with County called Judge Liz Gainor ruling that police were
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Speaker 3: the aggressives and employed unjustified violence during the chaos. Interesting,
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Speaker 3: and I've got to say my sympathies are with this
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Speaker 3: five who are taking this legal action because we saw
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Speaker 3: it over and over again in this state, peaceful protesters
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Speaker 3: protesting against the most straconian measures imaginable, and the manner
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Speaker 3: that police dealt with them was reprehensible. In my opinion, I.
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Speaker 4: Agree, and the chickens are now coming home to roost.
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Speaker 4: In addition to the unjustifiable violence of Victoria police, there was,
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Speaker 4: of course the double standard, which was if you were
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Speaker 4: a Black Lives Matter protester, you had the red carpet treatment,
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Speaker 4: you were allowed to go out there in protest. But
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Speaker 4: if you were someone like Zoey Buller who was just
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Speaker 4: putting their opinion online about the lockdowns, then you were arrested.
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Speaker 4: And these people who were protesting were brutally dealt with. Look,
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Speaker 4: I think the issue really came down to the leadership
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Speaker 4: of the police and the fact that they were politicized.
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Speaker 4: They basically became an arm of Daniel Andrew's private office
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Speaker 4: to try and suppress speech, suppress protest, suppress freedom of association.
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Speaker 4: It's one of the most reprehensible times in our state history.
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Speaker 4: So look, this is I think another important step to
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Speaker 4: getting some justice. But reader, what it reinforces is we
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Speaker 4: need to have a proper full royal commission into every
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Speaker 4: single element for the pandemic by state and federal governments.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that has to happen, and they may try to
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Speaker 3: delay it and delay it, but the sooner it happens
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Speaker 3: and we learned from it, the better. We'll get back
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Speaker 3: to Victoria in a second, but first let's have a
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Speaker 3: look at this. We had confirmation this week that many
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Speaker 3: of the COVID pandemic mandates we were all supposed to
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Speaker 3: follow religiously, unquestioningly, things like social distancing masking, They were
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Speaker 3: not based on science as we were told at the time.
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Speaker 3: This is all coming out with Dr Anthony Fauci is
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Speaker 3: grilling by the House COVID investigators and they just worked
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Speaker 3: on hunches. There was no medical basis. There was no
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Speaker 3: scientific basis. And Dan, let's not forget this wasn't just
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Speaker 3: in the US where Fauci had an enormous impact. We
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Speaker 3: here were following every draconian measure questioningly. I think probably
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Speaker 3: other than perhaps perhaps China, we and New Zealand were
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Speaker 3: the craziest when it came to that COVID era. And
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Speaker 3: I think so many people have memory hold what happened?
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Speaker 3: You asked them about things that occurred and they don't
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Speaker 3: recall it, and you have to actually, you know, google
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Speaker 3: an article and showed them so I know this actually happened.
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Speaker 3: Remember this, this was you live through it, not that
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Speaker 3: long ago.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean that's happened to me, like a
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Speaker 4: two year period that doesn't exist because every day was
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Speaker 4: basically the same and you sort of sort of rolled
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Speaker 4: into one. But you know, it was shocking and those
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Speaker 4: of us, I mean, you were one of the outspoken people,
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Speaker 4: one of the very few outspoken people at the time,
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Speaker 4: and we were sort of saying, well, hang on a minute,
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Speaker 4: why do you have I think here we had a
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Speaker 4: six meter rule, so why did we have a blanket
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Speaker 4: six meter rule? But then we had like a thousand
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Speaker 4: other specific rules in place at the same time. It
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Speaker 4: just none of this ever made sense from the start,
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Speaker 4: and there were many of us saying, well, is this
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Speaker 4: really about the health science or is this about politics?
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Speaker 4: And as the days and months have gone by since,
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Speaker 4: we now know that this was more about politics than
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Speaker 4: anything else, including in most cases masks. Now, masks may
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Speaker 4: have had a role in certain environments where you couldn't
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Speaker 4: move and you're on a train or a bus. But
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Speaker 4: you know this was about political theater, not about keeping
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Speaker 4: people safe.
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Speaker 3: No, and particularly masks outdoors. Let's just have a look
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Speaker 3: at those who didn't comply with some of these requirements
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Speaker 3: how they were treated. Now, the Australian Human Rights Commission
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Speaker 3: has had to ask one of its anti racism ambassadors
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Speaker 3: to step back while it investigates a racial discrimination complaint
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Speaker 3: against her. We're not suggesting that the ambassador Tasnim Chopra
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Speaker 3: has done anything legally wrong, but she did make posts
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Speaker 3: that said Zionists were racists and white supremacists who lie, lie, lie,
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Speaker 3: even casting doubt on her master's use of sexual violence
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Speaker 3: on October seven, which prompted a complain. The Australian Human
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Speaker 3: Rights Commission has previously had to end a contract with
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Speaker 3: a consulting firm, Hugh after The Australian newspaper revealed one
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Speaker 3: of its founders allegedly helped spread the docs details of
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Speaker 3: Jewish creatives. This all begs the question, Dan, why do
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Speaker 3: we even have this body because it was completely useless
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Speaker 3: during COVID where there was just mass violations of human
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Speaker 3: rights in this country. It's been pretty useless over the
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Speaker 3: last seven months when the Jewish community has been under attack,
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Speaker 3: why do we have this body other than two, I
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Speaker 3: don't know, terrorized cartoonists.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, that's exactly right. The Australian Human Rights Commission
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Speaker 4: has been anti free tom anti democratic since the start.
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Speaker 4: It hasn't done what it's supposed to do, which is
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Speaker 4: actually try and protect the human rights of all Australians.
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Speaker 4: As you mentioned, the most egregious breaches to our human
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Speaker 4: rights that have taken place in peacetime. Now, the Human
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Speaker 4: Rights Commission was completely and totally silent on to my knowledge,
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Speaker 4: they haven't said anything meaningful since then either, and they
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Speaker 4: have been largely a left leaning organization funded by taxpayers
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Speaker 4: that has tried to shut down, as you suggest, those
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Speaker 4: who have a different opinion from the political establishment. And look,
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Speaker 4: this is just another example of why it's time to
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Speaker 4: disband the Australian Human Rights Commission.
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Speaker 3: I'm with you now. Football player for Monaco has been
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Speaker 3: given a full match ban for covering up an anti
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Speaker 3: homophobia logo on his shirt. Mohammed Carrera put white tape
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Speaker 3: over a badge that featured on the front of the
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Speaker 3: All clubs jerseys on the final day of the season.
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Speaker 3: The league says, after hearing the player Mohammad Kumara and
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Speaker 3: noting his refusal during the meeting to carry out one
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Speaker 3: or more actions to raise awareness of the fight against homophobia,
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Speaker 3: the Commission decided to impose a four match suspension. That
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Speaker 3: is a heavy penalty. Indeed, short response from you, is
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Speaker 3: that justified?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's another example of why politics and
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Speaker 4: social issues have no place in sport. I mean, soccer
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Speaker 4: is literally played or watched by billions of people around
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Speaker 4: the world with different religious views, cultural values and so forth.
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Speaker 4: And I think most people that are sick and tired
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Speaker 4: of having political issues used or sport used as a
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Speaker 4: vehicle to promote certain political views and issues, where they
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Speaker 4: just want to go to the sport to watch sport
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Speaker 4: rather than be lectured too. So I think this is
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Speaker 4: another example of we need to keep politics out of sport.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely I agree with you on that one, Dan Wyle,
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Speaker 3: thank you for your time this evening.
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Speaker 1: Thank you joining me.
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Speaker 3: Now as Liberal Senator of South Australia. Alex Antick. Let's
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Speaker 3: start with a woman who was a victim of a
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Speaker 3: violent New Zealander and she's hit out at Immigration Minister
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Speaker 3: Andrew Jiles for his ministerial direction that allowed this offender
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Speaker 3: to remain in Australia. The man who racked up thirty
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Speaker 3: five convictions for crimes including attacking police officers domestic violence,
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Speaker 3: was safe from deportation because of Direction ninety nine. Single
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Speaker 3: mum Jessica Mills says she lays one hundred percent of
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Speaker 3: the blame at the Immigration Minister and has called on
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Speaker 3: the Albanese government to fix the mess they created.
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Speaker 5: What we went through, no family should have to go through.
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Speaker 5: He actually was a New Zealand citizen. The questions were
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Speaker 5: raised like why is he still here? There's criminal charges
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Speaker 5: that have been laid against them time and time again.
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Speaker 5: How many times did it have to be laid out
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Speaker 5: for them to actually be like, all right, this person
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Speaker 5: is not is not a good person in our country.
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Speaker 3: Senator Antique, Direction ninety nine is revised, replaced? Is that
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Speaker 3: going to fix this issue? And what is the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister's culpability in this ministerial order being formulated?
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Speaker 6: Well, reader, apart from anything else, the Prime Minister leads
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Speaker 6: a government that's lost its way. It's very clearly not
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Speaker 6: in control of the Immigration Department. And of course the
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Speaker 6: same could be applied to many other departments as well.
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Speaker 6: But I mean, these are the human faces of this
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Speaker 6: Direction ninety nine and of course the flat footed response
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Speaker 6: to the original High Court decision. It's not like this
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Speaker 6: government hasn't had plenty of warning on this and we
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Speaker 6: learn now. I think that this Direction ninety nine order
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Speaker 6: has had an enormous impact on the aat's decisions, and
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Speaker 6: it has compounded the fact that we've seen one hundred
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Speaker 6: and fifty three criminals released back into the community. We're
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Speaker 6: talking about murderers, we're talking about child sex offenders, We're
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Speaker 6: talking about people that should never ever set foot in
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Speaker 6: this country. And yet we're now being told, once again,
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Speaker 6: after having fixed up the problem, allegedly tried to fix
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Speaker 6: up the problem with the High Court decision, we're being
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Speaker 6: told that Direction ninety nine is going to have the
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Speaker 6: same rubbing of the magic lantern. This government needs to
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Speaker 6: understand it is Australia first. Peter Dutton, on the other hand,
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Speaker 6: when he was the minister, he canceled six three hundred visas,
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Speaker 6: more than any other minister since federation. And we need
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Speaker 6: the adults back in charge of this government.
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Speaker 3: Again now mining magnate Gina ryan Hart has taken a
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Speaker 3: stand against the leftist push to include gender ideology in
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Speaker 3: the school curriculum. She wants parents to stand up with
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Speaker 3: her and speak at also her old school, Saint Hilda's
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Speaker 3: in Perth, that had not only a pride assembly that
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Speaker 3: parents were not invited to attend, students were told things
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Speaker 3: like having evolver doesn't necessarily mean you're a woman, and
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Speaker 3: one transgender teacher apparently berated an entire classroom because someone
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Speaker 3: accidentally or purposely we misgendered him or her. Sir was
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Speaker 3: used instead of miss We mock the US over the
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Speaker 3: excesses of the trans movement at Senator Antique, but we're
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Speaker 3: not much better here. Indeed, in some regards we're probably worse.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I mean missus Reinhart's one hundred percent right.
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Speaker 6: And it actually makes a point that I've been making
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Speaker 6: for a long period of time is we need people
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Speaker 6: in politics to make the right decisions to protect kids. Remember,
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Speaker 6: schooling is about schooling, it's not about social engineering. But
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Speaker 6: it's more than that. We need people to be involved
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Speaker 6: on all levels. You know, we need quiet Australians to
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Speaker 6: speak up and we need families and parents to be
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Speaker 6: involved as well. We've seen that in South Australia. We've
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Speaker 6: got a very very successful movement with a group of
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Speaker 6: mums who are doing I guess things, talking about education
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Speaker 6: and providing support for each other in terms of you know,
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Speaker 6: how to talk to your principle about these things and
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Speaker 6: how to make that voice heard. We see a very
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Speaker 6: similar movement in the United States with the moms. Moms
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Speaker 6: as they say, for liberty in the United States. I
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Speaker 6: met some of them when I was over there and
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Speaker 6: they're fantastic women. We need the mums because I'll tell
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Speaker 6: you what, if you want to force in politics, it's
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Speaker 6: mumma bears. Don't muck around with the muma bears. They'll
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Speaker 6: get you. But we need more of them and there
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Speaker 6: are strengths in numbers here in South Australia. We just
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Speaker 6: recently saw a couple of months ago an incident involving
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Speaker 6: the Renmark High School where there was under the Guys
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Speaker 6: of Respectful Relationships, a program broad into the school that
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Speaker 6: parents didn't know about that the school teachers apparently were
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Speaker 6: not actually therefore, which involved talking to the kids about
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Speaker 6: concepts like beast reality. Now this is often done under
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Speaker 6: the guys of consent and respectful relationships. It's very hard,
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Speaker 6: I accept, for parents to know really what's going on
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Speaker 6: in their schools. But I think the first step is awareness.
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Speaker 6: We've been gathering for a long period of time complaints
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Speaker 6: from parents here, things that go on that would blow
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Speaker 6: your mind. So look, I think she's one hundred percent right.
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Speaker 6: The parents have got us start asking questions, even if
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Speaker 6: it's just with the kids, what did you learn today?
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Speaker 6: And see what it takes them, because this is a
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Speaker 6: full court press. We have got a problem with this
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Speaker 6: in our school system.
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Speaker 3: You're so right, and they always give these programs the
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Speaker 3: just the most benign names, in fact, names you couldn't
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Speaker 3: possibly disagree with, like safe schools and respectful relationships. You
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Speaker 3: just got to dig a little bit further into what
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Speaker 3: the detail is and you might be shocked before you go.
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Speaker 3: You did take our National Security agency to task in
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Speaker 3: Senate estimates last week. You asked about some of their
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Speaker 3: woke diversity schemes and also this preoccupation you might say
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Speaker 3: they have with Christian violent extremist ideology. I would have thought,
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Speaker 3: particularly over the last seven months, there would be other
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Speaker 3: issues that that would be occupying their time.
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Speaker 6: What did you learn, Well, this was I mean what
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Speaker 6: I learned is that, you know, there does seem to
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Speaker 6: be a bit of a preoccupation with white Christian nationalism
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Speaker 6: as it's referred to it. It's all the way through
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Speaker 6: the last Annual Report. Now, the last Annual Report, and
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Speaker 6: this is of course no criticism of the director. I
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Speaker 6: think it does a really good job. But the report
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Speaker 6: itself talks about white Christian nationalism like it's happening all
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Speaker 6: the time. They of course was framed around that we Ambler,
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Speaker 6: the tragic we Ambler shooting. But if you look back
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Speaker 6: over the last ten years of the eleven or so
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Speaker 6: terrorist acts in Australia, almost all of them are radical
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Speaker 6: Islamic terror or related or adjacent, and so it does
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Speaker 6: beg the question now they're probably separate issues. But I
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Speaker 6: then explored this diversity agenda inside Asia and we found
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Speaker 6: out there were support groups for all sorts of people
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Speaker 6: based on gender, based on cultural and linguistic status, none
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Speaker 6: of course for Christians who are involved in ASIO. But
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Speaker 6: the director rightly says if there was a call for one,
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Speaker 6: they'd have a support group for employees there as well.
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Speaker 6: I mean Ultimately, I don't know. I don't know where
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Speaker 6: this focus comes from, but I'm just not sure, and.
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Speaker 3: I do worry about the stats when you see something
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Speaker 3: like we saw that stabbing in Perth in the car
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Speaker 3: park outside of Bunnings, where the assailant stated what he
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Speaker 3: was doing, he said he was on a g HAD
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Speaker 3: and yet it wasn't classified as a terror event, so
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Speaker 3: statistically that doesn't get added to the lists and some
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Speaker 3: of the stats you discussed with the with the AZO spokesman,
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Speaker 3: Senator Antick, we do love your work. Thank you so
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Speaker 3: much for your time this evening. Thanks Ruder still to come.
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Speaker 3: Left is losing it and the Hunter Biden trial gets underway.
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Speaker 3: Josh Hammer brings us the latest welcome back, and now
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Speaker 3: it's time for lefties losing it. Let's have a look
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Speaker 3: at how loving and tolerant the two SLJLGB t q
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Speaker 3: I A plus plus plus community is to a trans
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Speaker 3: woman who happens to be conservative. Surely they'll be welcoming
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Speaker 3: and inclusive. Let's see how Blair White was treated at
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Speaker 3: Pride in Austin, Texas. It's true trans and supporting Trump.
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Speaker 7: Jesus, I thought it was about Pride.
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Speaker 8: Good emotions. The security won't stop following me. Why are
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Speaker 8: you still following me? Do you identify as a bully?
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Speaker 8: So why didn't you do anything when the person was
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Speaker 8: screaming for you and having to be hauled off by
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Speaker 8: his friend. Only when I asked questions respectfully to everyone? Okay, hey,
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Speaker 8: what's up? We're being treated kind of badly here.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 8: Look how crazy this person is. This is a fan
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Speaker 8: of mine, Get away from me. You're filming me saying
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Speaker 8: these are conservatives. So it kind of sounds like you
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Speaker 8: have a problem because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 8: I'm trans I can be here.
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Speaker 3: Got to tell you, I ain't feeling the tolerance. Let's
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Speaker 3: go from Austin, which has been ruined by calor Thornians
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Speaker 3: too California, to West Hollywood and what has been the
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Speaker 3: highlight of the Pride parade for you?
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Speaker 1: I'm not that acting mayor out here in front of me.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, b.
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Speaker 7: Has been your favorite part of this.
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Speaker 2: At that so far?
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Speaker 3: I loved going out there and seeing all the kids. Really,
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Speaker 3: your favorite part is seeing all the kids watching the parade.
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Speaker 3: A parade full of prancing, scantily clad adults is not
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Speaker 3: exactly the sort of thing kids should be exposed to,
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Speaker 3: unless you're a lefty losing it. Now, this drag queen
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Speaker 3: is doing wonderful work, not reading too or prancing around
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Speaker 3: half naked in front of kids, but educating fully grown
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Speaker 3: adults about basic facts.
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Speaker 9: And so I did a study of bride in the
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Speaker 9: Middle East with Israel and Palistine.
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Speaker 1: Would you say you're pro Palestine or pro Israel?
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Speaker 9: Pro Palestine?
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Speaker 1: As a game man, I would be punished and or
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Speaker 1: put in prisoner killed if I were open the game Palestine.
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Speaker 1: How do you react to that?
21:02
Speaker 9: I didn't know that.
21:05
Speaker 1: So it is illegal to be gay in Palestine. You
21:08
Speaker 1: are punished by prison or Jazz Israel. No, Israel has
21:12
Speaker 1: gay pride. Israel is completely open to lesbian and gay people.
21:16
Speaker 1: Palestine puts them in prison or kills them. You were
21:19
Speaker 1: you weren't aware of that? I was not aware of that.
21:21
Speaker 3: No, you weren't aware of that. You said you studied it,
21:25
Speaker 3: and you're wearing rainbow colors. You don't know the most
21:28
Speaker 3: basic facts about where gays and lesbians face genuine persecution.
21:33
Speaker 3: Let's see how she copes with that this schooling.
21:37
Speaker 9: So that does post an interesting aspect have you.
21:41
Speaker 1: Seen the Queers for Palestine movements. It's a very common movement.
21:46
Speaker 1: But I don't see any Muslims for queer movements.
21:50
Speaker 9: Yes, that's where it gets grey, right, like that's where
21:54
Speaker 9: I well, for me, it's not great.
21:57
Speaker 3: It gets grey. Really, These are the paper who claim
22:00
Speaker 3: there is a transgenocide happening in the US, who think
22:04
Speaker 3: protecting your children from radical gender theory in doctrination in
22:08
Speaker 3: school is bigoted and harmful. But gays and lesbians being beaten, jailed, killed,
22:14
Speaker 3: that's just a gray area. Now, drag Queen tries to
22:18
Speaker 3: teach this ignorant lefty about the plight of the gay
22:21
Speaker 3: community in Muslim majority countries.
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Speaker 1: As there is no Islamic country on Earth that embraces
22:27
Speaker 1: me as a gay man.
22:29
Speaker 9: So okay, okay, So maybe I'm confused because Israel, which
22:33
Speaker 9: isn't still an islam country.
22:35
Speaker 1: Ray No, no, no Jewish.
22:37
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
22:39
Speaker 1: So Israel's Jewish Palestinians are Islamic.
22:42
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, she studied it. Get your money back, lady.
22:51
Speaker 3: Now let's continue. Left is losing it. With an important
22:54
Speaker 3: message from the leader of the free world today, Joe
22:57
Speaker 3: Biden vowde crackdown, going to tackle the border crisis he
23:03
Speaker 3: has created. The man whose policies have seen illegal immigration
23:06
Speaker 3: records broken every single year of his presidency is blaming
23:11
Speaker 3: the Republicans and vowing tough action.
23:17
Speaker 10: I've come here today to do what Republics in Congress
23:19
Speaker 10: refuser do, take the necessary steps to secure our border.
23:24
Speaker 10: We came to a clear bipartisan deal with the strongest
23:30
Speaker 10: border security agreement in decades. Then Republicans in Congress, not
23:35
Speaker 10: all of but walked away from it. Why because Donald
23:39
Speaker 10: Trump told them to.
23:42
Speaker 3: That's the most lucid we've seen him for some time.
23:45
Speaker 3: He must be on the good stuff. But Biden's shameless
23:48
Speaker 3: attempts today to blame Trump and the Republicans for this
23:51
Speaker 3: crisis requires Americans to memory hold everything he has said
23:56
Speaker 3: and done to cause this crisis. Remember he told illegal
24:00
Speaker 3: immigrants to search the border when he was campaigning in
24:03
Speaker 3: the lead up to the twenty twenty election.
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Speaker 10: I would, in fact make sure that there is we
24:10
Speaker 10: immediately surge to the border. All those people are seeking asylum.
24:14
Speaker 10: They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. Where
24:16
Speaker 10: a nation says, if you want to flee and you're
24:18
Speaker 10: freeing oppression, you should come.
24:22
Speaker 3: And when he was asked, wouldn't his policies vowing to
24:26
Speaker 3: overturn Trump's tough border protection plan lead to an illegal
24:29
Speaker 3: immigration crisis? His response was this, first.
24:34
Speaker 10: Of all, every executive order this president has issues relating
24:38
Speaker 10: to the border and relating to dealing with the Hispanic
24:43
Speaker 10: community is going to be pulled back. We're not going
24:46
Speaker 10: to be fooling with that.
24:47
Speaker 3: Wan't that we start a brand new border crisis.
24:50
Speaker 2: I mean, what would you do with all those people
24:53
Speaker 2: in camps now waiting in Mexico?
24:57
Speaker 10: It will if we.
24:58
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
24:59
Speaker 8: Well, this is seekers that are on the other side
25:01
Speaker 8: of the border now in camp's going to be allowed
25:04
Speaker 8: to come and do their claims inside the United States,
25:07
Speaker 8: something that.
25:07
Speaker 10: Has not been for this the first time ever you've
25:10
Speaker 10: had to seek asylum in a third country. It's outrageous.
25:14
Speaker 10: It's outrageous.
25:15
Speaker 3: It's outrageous. It's outrageous. What it's outrageous to have borders. Reminder,
25:20
Speaker 3: his administration has let in millions illegally every single year
25:25
Speaker 3: of his presidency, more than two million a year. And
25:28
Speaker 3: why well, because he kept his election promise to overturn
25:31
Speaker 3: Trump's policies. Indeed, on day one of Biden's presidency, he
25:35
Speaker 3: terminated the national emergency with respect to the southern border
25:38
Speaker 3: and redirected funds destined for completing the war. On day
25:42
Speaker 3: one he did this, he terminated policies that were slashing
25:45
Speaker 3: the numbers crossing illegally. And he also said this building
25:49
Speaker 3: a massive wall that spans the entire southern border is
25:52
Speaker 3: not a serious policy solution. It is a waste of
25:55
Speaker 3: money that diverts attention from genuine threats to our homeland secure,
26:00
Speaker 3: genuine threats to homeland security. What what is that?
26:03
Speaker 8: Joe?
26:04
Speaker 3: Mums at school board meetings who don't want their kids
26:06
Speaker 3: indoctrinated with a radical gender theory. As for this new
26:10
Speaker 3: plan that he's announced today, as The New York Post
26:13
Speaker 3: points out, such a crackdown is a mirage. Even if
26:17
Speaker 3: the executive order was fully enforced, one point eight million
26:21
Speaker 3: asylum seekers will still be allowed to enter the US
26:25
Speaker 3: every year. One point eight million Joining me now, is
26:28
Speaker 3: senior editor at large of Newsweek, Josh Hammer. Josh, what
26:33
Speaker 3: do you make of President Biden's announcement? Will this plan
26:38
Speaker 3: solve the border crisis?
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Speaker 2: You know, reader, A few things jump right, off the
26:43
Speaker 2: top fast on those clips that we just saw. The
26:45
Speaker 2: first thing that I want to note is that clip
26:47
Speaker 2: of Joe Biden in his basement from twenty twenty, back
26:50
Speaker 2: when he was running the Basement campaign during COVID. You know,
26:52
Speaker 2: he's clearly all in that video, but he's actually remarkably
26:56
Speaker 2: more elusive than he is now. So I just want
26:58
Speaker 2: to make that very fast point. Rather, he has declined
27:01
Speaker 2: a lot just over the past three to three and
27:04
Speaker 2: a half years or so, because that video in twenty
27:06
Speaker 2: is very, very different than what we're getting nowadays. But
27:09
Speaker 2: to the actual immigration ordering question here, so the relevant
27:12
Speaker 2: legal section, it's it's the Immigration and Nationality Acts, Section
27:16
Speaker 2: two twelve F, which is codified at eight US Code
27:18
Speaker 2: eleven eighty two, subsection f threason I know all this
27:21
Speaker 2: because as they frequently invoked section of American immigration law
27:25
Speaker 2: during the Trump administration, a lot of border hawks, such
27:27
Speaker 2: as myself, were talking about invoking two twelve F. There
27:30
Speaker 2: are a few things note here. One, if Joe Biden
27:32
Speaker 2: thinks that invoking this is somehow a panacea to our
27:36
Speaker 2: border crisis, why in the world is he just doing
27:38
Speaker 2: it now? I mean, why are we waiting until the
27:40
Speaker 2: summer of a presidential election year. Why wasn't he doing
27:42
Speaker 2: it one year ago, two years ago, three years ago.
27:45
Speaker 2: I mean essentially just after this president took office in
27:49
Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty one, that's when the border crisis searched.
27:52
Speaker 2: And as you just showed there, it has a lot
27:54
Speaker 2: to do with the fact that on day one he
27:56
Speaker 2: started repealing Trump executive orders. So if he actually cared
28:00
Speaker 2: or to shut down the border, he could have done
28:01
Speaker 2: this one year ago, two years ago, three years ago.
28:03
Speaker 2: The second point to make here is that the fact
28:05
Speaker 2: that Joe Biden is now belatedly conceding that he has
28:09
Speaker 2: he has this executive authority. This belies the utter lie
28:13
Speaker 2: that was the so called bipartisan border bill at the
28:16
Speaker 2: us N and was talking about just a few months ago,
28:18
Speaker 2: back when Chuck Schumer and then James Langford, the useful
28:21
Speaker 2: idiot from Oklahoma, they had this so called bipartisan border bill,
28:24
Speaker 2: which thankfully didn't see the light of day. It was
28:26
Speaker 2: a terrible bill. But at the time Biden was saying,
28:28
Speaker 2: give me a law of Congress. I need a law.
28:31
Speaker 2: Now he's saying he could just do it unilaterally, So
28:33
Speaker 2: he's all over the place here. The final point to
28:35
Speaker 2: make here READO. I think this obviously has everything to
28:38
Speaker 2: do with domestic politics in an election year. I think
28:41
Speaker 2: what Joe Biden is trying to do here because he
28:43
Speaker 2: is a deeply cynical man. All he cares about is
28:46
Speaker 2: his domestic polling. We see it in every single issue
28:49
Speaker 2: very much, including the Israel Hamas Warre and Gaza as well.
28:51
Speaker 2: I think what he is doing here is he has
28:53
Speaker 2: seen them moderates and independence want a secure border. But
28:57
Speaker 2: what he's anticipating, I think, is that far left legal
29:00
Speaker 2: groups are going to immediately file a lawsuit, as the
29:02
Speaker 2: ECLU has already done, and I think that he's anticipating
29:06
Speaker 2: that the courts will gum up the works, which will
29:08
Speaker 2: simultaneously allow him to say, oh, look, I'm a border hawk,
29:11
Speaker 2: I'm trying to secure the border, while on the other hand,
29:14
Speaker 2: you will actually still have the open border. So it's
29:16
Speaker 2: a deeply, deeply cynical maneuver.
29:18
Speaker 3: I think, deeply cynical. But he can't change history. He
29:23
Speaker 3: can't change the fact that he terminated those Trump policies
29:28
Speaker 3: straightway as soon as he entered the Oval office, and
29:32
Speaker 3: just this week we've had another symptom of this border crisis,
29:36
Speaker 3: authorities alleging that illegal immigrant was responsible for shooting to
29:41
Speaker 3: New York police officers. Josh, So, this relationship with crimes
29:47
Speaker 3: being committed by illegal immigrants, all the other consequences of
29:52
Speaker 3: this enormous influx of people who've entered illegally, it is
29:57
Speaker 3: being felt in cities across America, Rita.
30:01
Speaker 2: It's everywhere. It is truly everywhere. So I'll give you
30:04
Speaker 2: just one example. In late March, I was speaking in Columbus, Ohio,
30:09
Speaker 2: which is the capital of the state of Ohio. I
30:11
Speaker 2: was speaking to a group of lawyers about the war
30:13
Speaker 2: and Gaza actually and anyway, afterwards, I met with a
30:17
Speaker 2: prominent statewide elected official from the state of Ohio. I
30:19
Speaker 2: will not name names because it was off the record conversation,
30:22
Speaker 2: but I was talking with this official about the immigration issue,
30:25
Speaker 2: and I basically said, you know, sir so and so,
30:28
Speaker 2: you know your state is not a border state, but
30:30
Speaker 2: what are you doing about immigration X y Z. And
30:33
Speaker 2: he essentially cut me off and he said, Josh, what
30:35
Speaker 2: are you talking about. Every state nowadays is a border state,
30:38
Speaker 2: because it is. Because we were feeling the pains of
30:40
Speaker 2: this all throughout the country. When you look at the
30:42
Speaker 2: number of migrants that Joe Biden has been flying in,
30:45
Speaker 2: has been busting in it from the border. They have
30:47
Speaker 2: reached all of the extremities of the United States at
30:50
Speaker 2: this point. It is very much not limited to Texas
30:53
Speaker 2: and the Rio Grande Valley is not limited to the
30:55
Speaker 2: high snore in desert in Arizona. It is truly everywhere.
30:59
Speaker 2: I mean here in Floria where I live. Florida is
31:01
Speaker 2: not technically a border, say because we're surrounded mostly by water.
31:04
Speaker 2: But you know, there was a horrific instance of legal
31:06
Speaker 2: alien crime in Palm Beach County just a month ago
31:09
Speaker 2: or so, and the Palm Beach County Sheriff was actually
31:11
Speaker 2: very outspoken about this. He said, this individual who committed
31:14
Speaker 2: these horrific rapes and traffickings and the child predations which
31:19
Speaker 2: I believe the alien was involved in all of that,
31:21
Speaker 2: the Palm Beach County Sheriff said, he should not have
31:24
Speaker 2: been here. He should not have been here, period, fal stop,
31:26
Speaker 2: end of his story. There are so many stories like
31:28
Speaker 2: this anecdotally. The murder trial by the way of the
31:30
Speaker 2: Killer of Lake and Riley and Athens, Georgia has just started,
31:33
Speaker 2: so hopefully we will see a modicum of justice there.
31:35
Speaker 2: But this is a national national travesty, and Joe Biden
31:39
Speaker 2: to put a mile lea Rita is a little late.
31:40
Speaker 8: To the game.
31:43
Speaker 3: But on crime, we are saying these soft on crime
31:47
Speaker 3: prosecutors Das and Meys, the Boston med A Democrat and
31:51
Speaker 3: Michelle wou she is pushing an entire soft on crime agenda,
31:57
Speaker 3: insisting that things like shoplifting, breaking and entering underage drinking,
32:02
Speaker 3: drug position, larceny threats, they should not be prosecuted. And
32:08
Speaker 3: she also wants the Boston Police gang database to be shuttered.
32:14
Speaker 3: How politicians like this getting elected, Josh are Democrats so
32:19
Speaker 3: dominant in parts of America that they can pretty much
32:22
Speaker 3: propose anything and still be elected.
32:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if you're a Soros from the far
32:27
Speaker 2: left prosecutor, you don't think that grand larceny or robbery
32:31
Speaker 2: or something else should be prosecuted. But apparently you think
32:34
Speaker 2: that alleged fraudulent bookkeeping, you know, which a Trump organization
32:38
Speaker 2: may or may not have done with the legal expenses
32:40
Speaker 2: of male Cohen in further into some undefined crime. I mean,
32:44
Speaker 2: just look at Alvin Bragg in New York City. He
32:45
Speaker 2: has been building up this case against Trump for many
32:48
Speaker 2: years now. Meanwhile, grand larceny, burglary, robbery, all these crimes
32:52
Speaker 2: have absolutely sort in New York City. If you are
32:54
Speaker 2: a robber or a burglar, you probably know that you
32:57
Speaker 2: are not going to be prosecuted.
32:58
Speaker 1: Again.
32:58
Speaker 2: If you're Donald Trump, then you I guess you know
33:00
Speaker 2: that you're gonna be prosecuted. So part of the problem,
33:02
Speaker 2: read it really is George Soros. I mean, George Soros
33:05
Speaker 2: is a singular menacing force when it comes to American
33:09
Speaker 2: politics and when it comes to the problem of the
33:11
Speaker 2: so called progressive prosecutor in general. He funds them all
33:14
Speaker 2: across the country, in Los Angeles and San Francisco. Now
33:18
Speaker 2: there is a silver lining here, which is that some
33:21
Speaker 2: cities have shown signs of not having it anymore. So
33:25
Speaker 2: in San Francisco two years ago you have these Soros
33:27
Speaker 2: fund the prosecutor, Chessa Woudin, who actually was recalled in
33:30
Speaker 2: a recall election. Now unfortunately the successor wasn't too much better,
33:34
Speaker 2: but at least slightly better. But in Portland, Oregon, which
33:37
Speaker 2: is essentially the American home of Antifa, that's a far
33:40
Speaker 2: left city. If there ever were, if there ever were one,
33:42
Speaker 2: The Soros from the Progressive Prosecutor actually just lost, actually
33:46
Speaker 2: just lost his primary in Portland, Oregon, just a couple
33:49
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. So there are some signs of a pushback.
33:53
Speaker 2: Me personally, I take solace in the fact that I
33:55
Speaker 2: live in a red state where I don't deal with
33:57
Speaker 2: any of this nonsense, and I hope the more say
33:59
Speaker 2: in America choose to make that leap from these blue
34:02
Speaker 2: states that are written by crime, written by legal aliens,
34:05
Speaker 2: and make the move to red states, which are home
34:06
Speaker 2: to civilizational sanity.
34:08
Speaker 3: Now Hunter Biden's federal gun trial is underway. The jury,
34:12
Speaker 3: we'll hear about how the president's son got his brother's widow,
34:16
Speaker 3: who he was having sex with at the time, hooked
34:19
Speaker 3: on crackcoat Caine. Hailey Biden is one of the people
34:24
Speaker 3: who's going to be giving evidence in this case. She's
34:27
Speaker 3: the one who was so worried about Hunter having a
34:29
Speaker 3: gun that she took it and dumped it in a
34:32
Speaker 3: bin near a school. Tell me about her being a
34:37
Speaker 3: witness in this case, Josh, and the fact that she
34:40
Speaker 3: had a recent visit from President Biden. I mean, is
34:43
Speaker 3: that a proper thing to be doing, to be visiting
34:46
Speaker 3: someone who's going to be a witness at your son's trial.
34:51
Speaker 2: No, it is most certainly not a proper thing to
34:54
Speaker 2: do here. I mean the optics of this stinct to
34:56
Speaker 2: high heaven. Frankly. I mean it has all of the
34:59
Speaker 2: luck of the President of the United States trying to
35:02
Speaker 2: intimidate a key witness right before his son is facing
35:06
Speaker 2: potentially of the twenty five years in prison. So you know, Look,
35:09
Speaker 2: Democrats know rita that the media will cover for them
35:12
Speaker 2: no matter what, So they feel totally emboldened to do
35:16
Speaker 2: stunts like this out in the open, knowing that no
35:18
Speaker 2: one other than you know, than conservatives like me will
35:20
Speaker 2: come on a rant about it. But the New York
35:22
Speaker 2: Times Washington Post, they will never raise an eyebrow to them.
35:24
Speaker 2: This obviously looks fully proper, but it is anything but that. Look,
35:29
Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden gun trial, A lot of my fellow
35:31
Speaker 2: conservatives are not really paying a lot of attention to
35:33
Speaker 2: it because the Special Counsel David Weiss has not charged
35:36
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden with foreign stuff, with Fara, with Ukraine, China,
35:40
Speaker 2: any of the jewsier stuff. But the reason that I
35:43
Speaker 2: am paying attention to this gun trial, Rida is because
35:45
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden is dead to rights on these actual charges,
35:49
Speaker 2: on these gun charges there which essentially alleged that he
35:53
Speaker 2: was a drug addict at the time that he purchased
35:55
Speaker 2: a firearm, that he was trafficking in that firearm while
35:57
Speaker 2: being a drug addict. The reason that we know that
35:59
Speaker 2: he is dead to rights and that he has committed
36:02
Speaker 2: this crime is because he literally admitted it. He literally
36:06
Speaker 2: admitted it in his memoir Beautiful Things in twenty twenty one.
36:09
Speaker 2: I don't know who his lawyer was, who was literally
36:11
Speaker 2: agent once who thought that was a good idea, but
36:13
Speaker 2: we know, based on the audio on his laptop and
36:16
Speaker 2: in the memoir itself, that he did this. So the
36:19
Speaker 2: reason that I'm following this trial closely, Rita, is because
36:22
Speaker 2: this is actually going to be a perfect test of
36:24
Speaker 2: the impartiality or fairness of America's justice system after what
36:28
Speaker 2: happened to Donald Trump just now, in particular, if there
36:30
Speaker 2: is anything anything left to take any pride in whatsoever
36:34
Speaker 2: in the American criminal justice system, Hunter Biden has to
36:37
Speaker 2: go to jail, not home confinements, not probation, nothing like that.
36:41
Speaker 2: He is dead to rights on these charges up the
36:43
Speaker 2: twenty five years. I want to see a prison sentence.
36:48
Speaker 3: Now before you go, I've got to ask you about
36:50
Speaker 3: Senator John Fitterman from the great state of Pennsylvania. He's
36:55
Speaker 3: a changed man. He went into a facility has come
36:58
Speaker 3: out completely different and more coherent, just with a better
37:04
Speaker 3: sense and grasp of everything. And he recently received a
37:08
Speaker 3: standing ovation at Isshiva University after telling students in a
37:13
Speaker 3: commencement's address that he was profoundly disappointed with his alma mater, Harvard,
37:18
Speaker 3: and he was so ashamed that he took off his
37:23
Speaker 3: Crimson Harvard hood. Let's have a look, and personally, I.
37:28
Speaker 9: Did not fundamentally believe that it's worked for me to
37:31
Speaker 9: wear this today.
37:41
Speaker 3: And the students sure did appreciate his comments. They celebrated.
37:47
Speaker 3: So just briefly, Josh, what happened to Fetterman? How is
37:52
Speaker 3: he so dramatically different to the man from two years ago?
37:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Fetterman might be the first person that I've
38:00
Speaker 2: ever seen who suffered literal physical brain damage and became
38:03
Speaker 2: a much like more sane and rational human being as
38:06
Speaker 2: a result of that. I never I've never seen it before,
38:08
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, But you know, if you
38:10
Speaker 2: go back to the to the Pennsylvania US Senate race
38:14
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two, you know, John Fetterman did
38:17
Speaker 2: not run as a moderator. He ran as essentially a
38:20
Speaker 2: squad aoc elin omar candidate in the US Senate. If
38:24
Speaker 2: he had continued on that, on that trajectory and had
38:27
Speaker 2: not suffered that stroke, he would be among the most
38:30
Speaker 2: radical left wing senders in the entire US Senate, along
38:33
Speaker 2: with people like Tammy Baldwin and Bernie Sanders probably people
38:37
Speaker 2: like that. But he's a change man now. And you know,
38:39
Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. I don't I don't claim to
38:41
Speaker 2: know what the correlation is between having a physical stroke
38:43
Speaker 2: and somehow emerging much more san rationalism as a.
38:46
Speaker 3: Result of it.
38:47
Speaker 2: What I can tell you, and that video that we
38:49
Speaker 2: just saw kind of underscores his points. You know, he's
38:52
Speaker 2: become something of a folk hero. Frankly, in the American
38:54
Speaker 2: Jewish community. I have a lot of a lot of
38:56
Speaker 2: Jewish conservative friends, Jewish Republicans who are even just just
39:00
Speaker 2: laudably praising John Fetterman. A couple of them are even
39:02
Speaker 2: saying that they're going to write in the vote for
39:04
Speaker 2: him this fall. I obviously I am not going to
39:05
Speaker 2: do that myself, but the fact that John Fetterman has
39:08
Speaker 2: emerged like this, especially on the Israel issue, on fighting
39:11
Speaker 2: anti Semitism, it is a small sign of hope, reader,
39:15
Speaker 2: amidst a Democratic Party that increasingly overall really does seem
39:20
Speaker 2: to be lurching to the very very very far left
39:22
Speaker 2: on this issue and other issues. But people like Fetterman,
39:25
Speaker 2: I guess, do give at least a small modicum of hope.
39:30
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's an outlier, and I don't know if
39:33
Speaker 3: the stroke had anything to do with it, but yeah,
39:36
Speaker 3: he disappeared for a period, came back, and now we
39:39
Speaker 3: have a man who's far more lucid, far more centrist.
39:45
Speaker 3: He was radically radically left when he was first elected
39:50
Speaker 3: to the Senate. Josh Hamma, thank you so much for
39:52
Speaker 3: your time this evening.
39:54
Speaker 7: Thank you still to come.
39:56
Speaker 3: Nigel Ferrant makes his political comeback as thousands rally against
40:02
Speaker 3: two tier policing in London. That's after this welcome back.
40:15
Speaker 3: Nigel Farage announced his political comeback yesterday, vowing to take
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Speaker 3: on the Tories himself as a Reform Party candidate in
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Speaker 3: July's general election. The television presenter and Brexiteer also reclaimed
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Speaker 3: his leadership of the right wing Eurosceptic Reform Party, who
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Speaker 3: have been giving the Conservative Party trouble ever since they're
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Speaker 3: founding in twenty eighteen as the Brexit Party. Former Brexit
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Speaker 3: Party member of the European Parliament and current broadcaster Alex
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Speaker 3: Phillips joins me Now Alex. A lot of media headlines
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Speaker 3: claimed this is a shock announcement from Farage. Were you
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Speaker 3: surprised or did you see this coming?
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Speaker 11: Know what, I've got a bit of an inside track
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Speaker 11: on this because the party had actually asked me at
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Speaker 11: one point to stand in Clacton, and I'd been having
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Speaker 11: conversations with Nigel about it and then decided against it
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Speaker 11: actually because I need to focus on my broadcasting career,
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Speaker 11: and I knew that Nigel had always been in two
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Speaker 11: minds about whether to stand or not, and I always
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Speaker 11: knew that he was looking at Clacton as the potential
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Speaker 11: seat because of the favorability of standing there.
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Speaker 7: So it doesn't surprise me. Actually he's been out on
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Speaker 7: the campaign trail.
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Speaker 11: Knowing him like I do, he'd have got this great
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Speaker 11: sense of uplift and all the people saying please stand,
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Speaker 11: please stand, watching the polls begin to move and he
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Speaker 11: just can't resist the fight. It'd be very difficult for him,
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Speaker 11: I think, to sit on the sidelines and potentially see
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Speaker 11: other people elected and him not.
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Speaker 3: Well. The bulk of the media loves to give Nigel
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Speaker 3: a terrible time. They love to hate him. But what
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Speaker 3: has been able to achieve the success that he had
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Speaker 3: with Bregsord. One could argue he is the most consequential
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Speaker 3: British politician we've saying since Thatcher. What can he realistically
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Speaker 3: achieve though? In the general election where there was such
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Speaker 3: a short campaign period.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it's so difficult to call, especially under
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Speaker 11: first past the post, which just doesn't favor small parties.
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Speaker 7: But you know, when we've had.
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Speaker 11: A resurgent UKIP, a resurgent Brexit Party, other political outfits
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Speaker 11: that he led into general elections at the same time,
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Speaker 11: we had a Conservative party that was also strong and
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Speaker 11: voters who were attractive to those right wing policies, and
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Speaker 11: Nigel's presence would almost make the Conservatives then ate what
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Speaker 11: he was saying to.
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Speaker 7: The voters, and the voter would go.
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Speaker 11: Well, do you know what, because it's the bigger party,
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Speaker 11: the legacy party, I'm going to put my vote there.
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Speaker 11: What's happened is the Conservatives have not delivered and so
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Speaker 11: this time around you've got a resurge and reform with
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Speaker 11: the Conservatives backs against the ropes. So it'll be interesting
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Speaker 11: to see now whether he can actually tip it over
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Speaker 11: the top and get seats in the parliament.
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Speaker 3: Yba well in front. They're expected to win, and as
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Speaker 3: you mentioned, the UK does have a first past the
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Speaker 3: post system. Is he Forage going to just split that
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Speaker 3: Conservative vote and enshore a labor landslide?
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Speaker 7: Do you know what?
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Speaker 11: It's interesting because this is what voters in the UK
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Speaker 11: are always told. This is a binary choice between the
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Speaker 11: two legacy parties and a vote for anybody else is
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Speaker 11: a wasted vote, something I utterly detest in our so
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Speaker 11: called democracy. But like I said, this time the Conservative
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Speaker 11: Party is backs against the votes.
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Speaker 7: They're not going to win in a month of Sundays.
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Speaker 11: There's no way you're going to see a Conservative policy competition,
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Speaker 11: even a minority government. So with that in mind, why
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Speaker 11: not just vote for who you want to? It's going
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Speaker 11: to be a labor government. And do you know what,
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Speaker 11: having reformed sitting on those opposition benches, which certainly spice
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Speaker 11: things up.
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Speaker 3: It would there are a lot of Tory voters who
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Speaker 3: are actually fed up because they've had this supposedly conservative
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Speaker 3: government in power but they've governed like a Labor party
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Speaker 3: and mad climate policy, mass migration, all sorts of other
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Speaker 3: issues where if you're a genuine Conservative you're wondering what
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Speaker 3: you voted for. But Farage is also vowing to target
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Speaker 3: those voters who are disgruntled labor voters, so he says
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Speaker 3: he's got something for everybody here. I know it's just
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Speaker 3: impossible to predict, but we are saying, certainly in this
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Speaker 3: country where we've got a preferential system, a significant decline
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Speaker 3: in the support of the major two options Labor and
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Speaker 3: the Coalition. Is that something that is happening in the UK?
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Speaker 3: Is there a trend there where a third candidate could
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Speaker 3: possibly get the largest slice of the vote.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not just in the UK, and it's not
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Speaker 7: just in Australia. Look at what's happened across Europe as well.
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Speaker 7: Most of the West are going through the and I think.
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Speaker 11: Some of these big issues that are resonating with voters
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Speaker 11: here in the UK, Like you said, the mass migration,
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Speaker 11: we've had. We've currently got a gross a million people
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Speaker 11: coming into the UK per year of population sixty eight million.
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Speaker 7: That is cultural vandalism.
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Speaker 11: Now, that is something that a lot of countries in
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Speaker 11: the West are seeing, the sort of curse really of
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Speaker 11: mass migration. But at the same time there's this pushback
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Speaker 11: I think against globalization. People feel increasingly in the West
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Speaker 11: that the people they're voting for are working on behalf
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Speaker 11: of supernational organizations, international law, sort of globalist trends that
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Speaker 11: they feel they've lost control, and when they're trying to
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Speaker 11: hold their politicians to accounts, they feel they can't anymore.
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Speaker 11: So we've seen it now in France first of all
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Speaker 11: with Macron, who isn't sort of nominally right wing particularly,
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Speaker 11: but with on Marsh back then did set up a
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Speaker 11: back party. We've seen it in countries like Italy. We're
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Speaker 11: seeing it in the Netherlands with hire Builder winning that
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Speaker 11: last election. This is something that's happening across the West.
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Speaker 11: Voters are sick to death of feeling ignored by what
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Speaker 11: they see as an elite who pandered to big companies,
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Speaker 11: who pandered to these big sort of supernational organizations, and
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Speaker 11: frankly don't listen to the concerns they should be listening
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Speaker 11: to on.
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Speaker 7: The ground.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: Rishi Sunak has been trying to appease the conservative voter, vowing,
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Speaker 3: for instance, to change the law to keep trans women
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Speaker 3: out of female only spaces like bathrooms. But is anyone
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Speaker 3: buying this figause this is not how he has governed,
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Speaker 3: This is not how previous conservative prime ministers in recent
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Speaker 3: years of government governed. To find his conservative credentials at
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Speaker 3: this late stage, is anyone convinced.
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Speaker 7: No, it's gone.
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Speaker 11: They've done it, They've blown it, They've lied way too
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Speaker 11: many times. You know, just over a year ago readA
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Speaker 11: Rishi Suna couldn't answer the question whether a woman could
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Speaker 11: have a penis.
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Speaker 7: So that tells you all you need to know. He
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Speaker 7: wouldn't pass your.
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Speaker 11: GTFY biology in this country, and he's certainly not passing.
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Speaker 7: The tens Prime Minister. But we've also had successive Conservative governments,
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Speaker 7: every single election, every manifesto say we're going to cut
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Speaker 7: immigration down to the tens of thousands, and it's over
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Speaker 7: a million. You couldn't make it up. I woke up
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Speaker 7: this morning, bite and.
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Speaker 11: Nearly to join you UK time, looked on Twitter and
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Speaker 11: the first thing I see is that wish he's soon
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Speaker 11: act saying he's going to put a cap on migration.
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Speaker 7: We've had fourteen years to do that, Sunshine, and you haven't.
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Speaker 3: Oh dear.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: We had massive crowds marching through central London on the wakend.
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Speaker 3: They were demanding an end to London's two tiered policing systems,
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Speaker 3: the issue we've talked about often on this program. There
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Speaker 3: were carrying English flags at Saint George, there were Israeli
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Speaker 3: flags there, all sorts of flags. There looked like many, many,
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Speaker 3: thousands tending. Though the media said it was just hundred.
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Speaker 3: Segments of the media were not convinced. What you just
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Speaker 3: saw was thousands of people, and they also trying to
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Speaker 3: paint these people who did turn up as racists, football holigans,
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Speaker 3: violent drunks, all sorts of descriptions. But there was no violence.
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Speaker 3: There was no property destruction. There was a bit of singing, though, Alex.
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Speaker 3: What really happened at this parade other than the singing,
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Speaker 3: was it a gathering of racist footy houligans who we
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Speaker 3: should all be terrified of.
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Speaker 11: Look at those videos, I mean, Rita, the monsters we
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Speaker 11: have in this country, the threat to civilization may pose,
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Speaker 11: singing patriotic songs and getting together from all walks of
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Speaker 11: life to celebrate brig values. What a horrible far right
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Speaker 11: skinhead movement. We should all be terrified. I mean, it's
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Speaker 11: just ridiculous, isn't it. What is wrong with people turning
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Speaker 11: around and saying, I love the country I'm from and
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Speaker 11: I want the country i'm from to love itself.
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Speaker 7: That is what this was about, saying that British values
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Speaker 7: should be cherished, not slandered, not destroyed.
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Speaker 11: And frankly, British values are under threats by the amount
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Speaker 11: of immigration we're having.
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Speaker 7: It's just the facts of life and we need to
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Speaker 7: talk about this.
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Speaker 11: And those scenes I think were brilliant and I'm really
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Speaker 11: proud of all the Brits who turned up and went
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Speaker 11: on that much.
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Speaker 3: Alex Phillips, thank you so much for your time. And
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Speaker 3: that's it from May Up next is news No, I'll
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Speaker 3: see you at eleven tomorrow. Good night,