Latest / The MeatEater Podcast / Ep. 200: ‘Faced on ‘Nog: The Holiday Special
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- 0:12Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Everyone, We've got a different kind of podcast
- 0:16Speaker 1: experience for you today. Today is our Christmas Extravaganza variety show, SIPs,
- 0:22Speaker 1: some egg na talk, holiday hunting traditions, Christmas dishes, worst
- 0:26Speaker 1: gifts ever, and Santa Claus may even pass a little visit.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Plus we've got our very own meat eater caroling choir
- 0:33Speaker 1: singing tunes. So hang around us for grand old time.
- 0:43Speaker 1: All right everyone, it's the sum Bitch and Christmas episode. Now, Uh,
- 0:47Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna do drinks. We're gonna do egg
- 0:49Speaker 1: na drinks. We're gonna predict futures. Yanni's gonna guide us
- 0:53Speaker 1: through predicting our futures by the Lavian tradition of melting
- 0:58Speaker 1: down lead and then thrown into a bucket. That's right.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Then you take the lead out once it's cooled, and
- 1:05Speaker 1: you hold it up to a light and it casts
- 1:08Speaker 1: a hand puppet. Yeah, the buckets got some cold water
- 1:11Speaker 1: in it. If anybody's wanting how it cools down and
- 1:16Speaker 1: then you make it, hold it up and make a
- 1:17Speaker 1: hand puppet with it. That's right. And then the shape
- 1:21Speaker 1: tells you what's gonna happen to you. Well, not necessarily shape.
- 1:25Speaker 1: But everybody else in the room it's looking at the shape. Well,
- 1:28Speaker 1: then tell you what they see in that shape, and
- 1:30Speaker 1: tell you what's gonna happen to you next. I'll do
- 1:32Speaker 1: I'll do my own thanks. Uh okay uh. And we're
- 1:37Speaker 1: also filling in with our special song. And we got
- 1:40Speaker 1: a whole big thing to do. Most importantly that we
- 1:43Speaker 1: got to run through our introductions. I'm Anthony Locatta. When
- 1:47Speaker 1: someone says happy holidays, what comes to your mind? Um, Christmas?
- 1:52Speaker 1: When people say that, Christmas comes in mind. But I'm
- 1:55Speaker 1: a fourth July man, myself is the perfect holiday for fireworks,
- 2:00Speaker 1: hummer bonfires. Doesn't get any better than that. Cal, I'm
- 2:04Speaker 1: Ryan Callahan and uh I had Yeah, I enjoy holidays,
- 2:11Speaker 1: but I like him for the time off. That's so
- 2:14Speaker 1: you like the ones that include some time off. Yeah,
- 2:17Speaker 1: where I can go, you know, hunting and fishing, maybe
- 2:20Speaker 1: do some cooking and laundry and whatnot. I also wish
- 2:24Speaker 1: that everyone who heard this right now could see Cal. Oh,
- 2:27Speaker 1: Cal's got a elf get up on with big ears.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And I was just having a c w D. I
- 2:35Speaker 1: was having a chronic wastion disease conversation with Cal. And
- 2:39Speaker 1: there's two things tripped me up. One is it's hard
- 2:42Speaker 1: to argue with someone dressed up as the Elf. And two,
- 2:44Speaker 1: I was imagining that Cal had all these rein to
- 2:47Speaker 1: your friends and that his community was being annihilated by
- 2:51Speaker 1: c w D. And in the ways I wish that
- 2:55Speaker 1: would impact him emotionally. Yeah, not in your backyard, but
- 3:00Speaker 1: in mine. Um. Yeah, So I do think that I
- 3:04Speaker 1: like the ideas of like, you don't necessarily need to
- 3:08Speaker 1: hear Christmas or Hannik or or whatever when somebody says, hey, happy,
- 3:14Speaker 1: It's more like I give enough of a shit about
- 3:18Speaker 1: you to say I hope you have a good time
- 3:21Speaker 1: doing whatever. Well, what you could start doing is saying, uh,
- 3:26Speaker 1: if you're having some time off, I hope you enjoy it,
- 3:32Speaker 1: go outside, get enjoy, done, enjoy, enjoy or whatever time
- 3:36Speaker 1: off you might be getting from work. Shout that after him. Phil, Hey, yeah,
- 3:42Speaker 1: I I think of Christmas. I grew up with Christmas. Um,
- 3:45Speaker 1: love the smells, the food, the lights. Ye, hi, Steve,
- 3:53Speaker 1: my favorite holiday. When someone says happy holidays, or what
- 3:57Speaker 1: am I thinking of? I've already told you Winter Solstice?
- 3:59Speaker 1: You that one, Mark Kenyon, Yeah, you stole my thunder there,
- 4:04Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon, what you want to say? Go ahead next next,
- 4:09Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon here. Uh yeah, I'm a fan of Christmas
- 4:13Speaker 1: and being married for whatever you want to celebrate. But
- 4:15Speaker 1: I'll say that about Christmas, what I think it's got
- 4:18Speaker 1: over a lot of other Fourth of July type holidays
- 4:21Speaker 1: is the music. I'm a Christmas music man. You're you're
- 4:25Speaker 1: a Billy Joel Man. I got pigeon holed into that unfairly.
- 4:31Speaker 1: When someone tell Billy Joel Man, you want to know
- 4:35Speaker 1: the rest of my their life when they're talking about music.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Do you want to know what I hear? M hmm
- 4:43Speaker 1: the piano, man, that's the noise that enters my head
- 4:47Speaker 1: when you talk about music. Now that I know you're
- 4:48Speaker 1: a Billy Joel Man, here's the thing, like the employment
- 4:50Speaker 1: where we said, Mark, what do you like? Mark said,
- 4:52Speaker 1: I like Billy Joel. That is not true. That's not
- 4:55Speaker 1: what happened. If I do recall, though, you listed off
- 4:58Speaker 1: a whole bunch of Billy Joel songs just as many
- 5:00Speaker 1: as I could produce during that conversation. Yeah, but I
- 5:03Speaker 1: could also list my enemies fair enough. You can listen
- 5:07Speaker 1: like the Access Powers during World War two is me
- 5:10Speaker 1: not like them Christmas music though you like Christmas? Yeah,
- 5:14Speaker 1: I'm with you, Mark, Thank you. Sam. Wait, who's your
- 5:17Speaker 1: favorite Christmas artists? Billy Joel's Christmas? I know, Frank Sinatra,
- 5:25Speaker 1: that's a good thing, or being Steve's World some more,
- 5:31Speaker 1: my old man love because my man Sinatra, well, bright Eyes,
- 5:36Speaker 1: blue Eyes Eyes, that's not a bad band, but blue
- 5:40Speaker 1: Eyes he never wrote a thing. He never wrote a thing.
- 5:43Speaker 1: He just like would interpret people's songs whatever that means.
- 5:45Speaker 1: He did it his way. Steve, that's very true, all right, Sam, Hi,
- 5:51Speaker 1: my name is Samum. First time on the show, first
- 5:55Speaker 1: time on the show right now. But yeah, I mean
- 5:58Speaker 1: that's true with anything, that's the first time. Yeah it is.
- 6:01Speaker 1: When I think of holidays, I think of Christmas. We
- 6:05Speaker 1: were a typical Catholic family and went to church every Christmas.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Good for you. Now, I don't get gifts for anyone
- 6:12Speaker 1: for Christmas. You you like you. You wanted to strip
- 6:15Speaker 1: the commercialism right out of it. Yeah, And I just
- 6:17Speaker 1: I'm not really a good gift giver, so I don't
- 6:19Speaker 1: really want to like give a gift that everyone's just
- 6:21Speaker 1: going to hate anyways. But this year I'm going to make.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I should just give um. I'm going to make jerky
- 6:29Speaker 1: from my deer this year. You know what my brother
- 6:32Speaker 1: made for everybody for Christmas this year? He bought a
- 6:35Speaker 1: thing to make. I think he makes fifty tubes at
- 6:37Speaker 1: a time. And he makes dear fat chapstick. Oh that's
- 6:41Speaker 1: a good idea with all natural deer fats, got bees
- 6:45Speaker 1: wax and various oils like essential oils, and he doesn't
- 6:48Speaker 1: believe in essential oils, but he uses it for his
- 6:50Speaker 1: chapstick and it's a wonderful product and he's able to
- 6:53Speaker 1: make fifty out of time and a special little two
- 6:55Speaker 1: holder he's got doing this stuff is yeah, he's not
- 7:00Speaker 1: selling them, and he didn't put glycering in it, so
- 7:03Speaker 1: I'm worried about the shelf stability. That's a that's a
- 7:06Speaker 1: there's like I think it's glystener glysall or something. It's
- 7:08Speaker 1: like a food safe preserved. We just use it making
- 7:11Speaker 1: trapping bait, like you can start you can take some meat,
- 7:14Speaker 1: cat meat, whatever and wrote it down and then put
- 7:16Speaker 1: glycering in it to stop the rot. And remember it's
- 7:18Speaker 1: like a food safe deal. He's not using it, so
- 7:21Speaker 1: I don't know about the shelf stability. A dear tale
- 7:23Speaker 1: of chapstick. But dude, you put this on your lips.
- 7:26Speaker 1: It's good stuff man, Because he had to render it.
- 7:31Speaker 1: He rendered it out, put the bees wax in there,
- 7:33Speaker 1: put some aromatics in there, all natural, like, oh yeah,
- 7:38Speaker 1: it's like the Tom and Jerry's a chap stick man.
- 7:40Speaker 1: How is that not in the mediator store right now?
- 7:43Speaker 1: That seems like something we absolutely need to have. Well,
- 7:45Speaker 1: I think there's probably some kind of FDA component to it.
- 7:48Speaker 1: What does Tom and Jerry's of chapstick mean? Oh? How
- 7:51Speaker 1: they brag up how they got real simple ingredients bene
- 8:00Speaker 1: Jerry's with their Uncle Tom's deoderant? What's that de orderant? Times?
- 8:09Speaker 1: Confusing Times of Maine with the famous book Uncle Tom's Cabin.
- 8:14Speaker 1: My kids have been recently, so I was I didn't
- 8:18Speaker 1: know if those guys had a chapstick, you know what
- 8:22Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Maybe it's even Briars. Who is it
- 8:24Speaker 1: that has like they make a big deal out how
- 8:26Speaker 1: nothing's in the ice cream right, It's it's probably Ben Jerry.
- 8:31Speaker 1: All right, let's start out. We're gonna make some drinks.
- 8:33Speaker 1: What we're gonna have? What's our holiday drink for our
- 8:35Speaker 1: special holiday special. Our holiday drink is egg nog. We're
- 8:38Speaker 1: gonna use our meat eat or straight bourbon whiskey. Um,
- 8:43Speaker 1: and I'm gonna basically dump all the ingredients into our
- 8:48Speaker 1: Weston blender and it's going to be like a five
- 8:50Speaker 1: minute nag. It's um from scratch, from scratch, eggs, ry eggs, nutmeg, cinnamon,
- 8:58Speaker 1: half and half, heavy cream, milk, sugar, in our in
- 9:04Speaker 1: our bourbon. Uh. We're having a conversation before we got started,
- 9:08Speaker 1: and Crim's gonna make this drink. Um is it? I've
- 9:13Speaker 1: I know from reading Tom Robbins. What book is the
- 9:17Speaker 1: one that has the Tarzan's in Tom Robins novel where
- 9:21Speaker 1: he's going, Uh, it's like Tarzan is tripping on nutmeg
- 9:27Speaker 1: and he encounters Jesus in the desert. Oh sounds great.
- 9:33Speaker 1: See I know the drug reference from Malcolm X because
- 9:36Speaker 1: when Malcolm gets thrown in the clink, like his uh
- 9:39Speaker 1: kind of mentor in there gets him level headed on
- 9:44Speaker 1: nutmeg and warns him it's it's the only don't ask
- 9:48Speaker 1: him for it again. Okay, Yeah, it trips you out.
- 9:54Speaker 1: It's like tricking robot using right. I don't know, but
- 9:57Speaker 1: Phil is going to read up on it, Phil, how
- 10:00Speaker 1: much nutmeg you gotta eat the trip this Christmas, this
- 10:05Speaker 1: holiday season. The thing is not actually a lot, but
- 10:09Speaker 1: a little bit of nutmeg goes a long way if
- 10:11Speaker 1: you've had it. And so people there's a I looked
- 10:14Speaker 1: it up. People of there's um history of people tripping
- 10:17Speaker 1: on nutmeg, at least since like Dreds is the first
- 10:20Speaker 1: documented kind of a woman eight ten nutmegs, nuts, nutmeg, nuts,
- 10:25Speaker 1: and felts, and people were already tripping on it when
- 10:28Speaker 1: the Pilgrims came to America. Yeah. Um. And so the
- 10:32Speaker 1: reason is is that there's a there's a compound in
- 10:35Speaker 1: it called Mira Steyson which gets turned into a drug
- 10:40Speaker 1: called m M d A, which if it that sounds familiar,
- 10:44Speaker 1: there's a it's got a very close relative called m
- 10:46Speaker 1: D m A, which is ecstasy. Um. So when your
- 10:50Speaker 1: body's processing it, it changed the changes of the mirror
- 10:52Speaker 1: Styson and into this hallucinogenic drug. So yeah, it's it's okay.
- 10:57Speaker 1: So you're making some nutmeg, Yeah, and you got a
- 10:59Speaker 1: jar of It's hold the season. You make us some
- 11:02Speaker 1: nutmeg and you got a jar the little nuts, the megs.
- 11:07Speaker 1: How many of those. You need to eat before you're
- 11:10Speaker 1: before you know your your aunt has like a snake
- 11:13Speaker 1: coming out of her nostril or something like that. If
- 11:17Speaker 1: it looks like probably probably about two or three to
- 11:20Speaker 1: really kind of feel it. Yeah, that's a lot of
- 11:25Speaker 1: last drunk by that point in time. So you had
- 11:28Speaker 1: ten nutmegs. I mean that's a lot of dedicated she
- 11:33Speaker 1: must have had a cow that put egg knock off.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Do you eat them or do you snort them? Or
- 11:37Speaker 1: you smoke them? I'm asking for friends. It's it's just eating. Um,
- 11:42Speaker 1: I feel like you just grind it up. Yeah. So,
- 11:45Speaker 1: I mean, so they're they're they're documented cases of of
- 11:47Speaker 1: of you know, kids just downing jars of ground nutmegs.
- 11:52Speaker 1: I got one. I got one right now. I'm gonna
- 11:54Speaker 1: take a no on. Okay, well we'll update throughout the podcast.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Let's see how you're doing. Oh yeah, that's got to
- 12:01Speaker 1: be very difficult meal to eat. Yeah, yeah, I'd have
- 12:05Speaker 1: to snort it. Um. So yeah, you will feel a
- 12:10Speaker 1: little That's why no one, that's why everybody's not wasted
- 12:13Speaker 1: on Christmas. So you will get a little bit, but
- 12:22Speaker 1: I can't. Vomiting comes with the high. But it's it's
- 12:27Speaker 1: mostly they think it's non toxic. Like there's only been
- 12:29Speaker 1: one documented death from eating too much nutmegging. It was
- 12:32Speaker 1: from an eight year old kid who ate I think
- 12:35Speaker 1: three just three nutmegs and died. But that sounds like
- 12:38Speaker 1: it might have been something else going on as well
- 12:40Speaker 1: the holiday season when I happened to him. I don't know. Uh.
- 12:43Speaker 1: The other question we had is what's up with um
- 12:47Speaker 1: eating all kind of raw eggs? Because remember chips? And
- 12:49Speaker 1: I know you don't remember chips. I'm aware there are motorcycles, chips, chips.
- 12:58Speaker 1: There was a part of most episode where either Punch
- 13:01Speaker 1: or John I can't remember would drink It was like
- 13:05Speaker 1: a stick. That's Yiddish, I think, is that Yiddish stick? Ye,
- 13:10Speaker 1: that's the Yiddish. Trying to keep multicultural here. Stick was
- 13:14Speaker 1: to drink a glass of eggs. You guys remember this?
- 13:18Speaker 1: You do? How did he avoid being sick all the time?
- 13:23Speaker 1: So a reading roy eggs the main that when you're
- 13:26Speaker 1: going on back there makes a magnet speed ro so
- 13:30Speaker 1: there people think that it can the egg whites can
- 13:33Speaker 1: block absorb absorption of vitamin D seven go on, but
- 13:41Speaker 1: that's not a really high concerned. The main concern is
- 13:43Speaker 1: actually just Sam and ella. That's the only thing that
- 13:45Speaker 1: people are concerned about with ry eggs is that, um,
- 13:49Speaker 1: it's just the higher higher chance of salmonella. The nutmeg
- 13:53Speaker 1: and my mouth is ruining my Christmas special special goodness
- 13:59Speaker 1: to this that he ate raw eggs for years. That's how,
- 14:05Speaker 1: That's how chips does it. And I actually don't think
- 14:08Speaker 1: that it does make you sick because my mom, when
- 14:11Speaker 1: I was a little boy, made our own That was
- 14:13Speaker 1: one of our traditionstions was to eat raw eggs. No
- 14:22Speaker 1: one ever got sick. What kind of tradition was that,
- 14:28Speaker 1: h I'm sorry, No, she would make egg dog. Yeah,
- 14:31Speaker 1: it was like for for Christmas Eve, she would make
- 14:34Speaker 1: egg dog out of eggs. And then we didn't all
- 14:37Speaker 1: just sit around puking and messing our pants. You go
- 14:40Speaker 1: to a nice restaurant, you have steak tartar was a
- 14:42Speaker 1: raw egg and that Yeah, that's good point. Sam thoughts
- 14:46Speaker 1: about that, Well, it's just the raw yoke. I thought
- 14:48Speaker 1: it was the egg white that was the issue. The
- 14:51Speaker 1: egg white is the thing that might block absorption vitamin B.
- 14:54Speaker 1: But that's an issue either way. Quick quick correction. While
- 14:57Speaker 1: we while we while the drinks get made, Colt this
- 15:00Speaker 1: pertains YouTube. Um in keeping with the holiday holiday theme, here, uh,
- 15:07Speaker 1: we have a craction coming from our friend. Uh. He
- 15:10Speaker 1: sent it as an inform of a Christmas card, where
- 15:12Speaker 1: Doug Durn sent into correction and I told him if
- 15:15Speaker 1: he could to try to make it fit with our
- 15:16Speaker 1: Christmas episode, that he could give it a Christmas theme.
- 15:19Speaker 1: So he's he's including it as a gift. And it
- 15:23Speaker 1: has to do with his annoyance when people say, particularly
- 15:28Speaker 1: when I always say cut corn meaning I was hunting
- 15:33Speaker 1: out in a cut corn field, or when are they
- 15:36Speaker 1: gonna cut that corn? So uh, here's Doug's correction, which
- 15:42Speaker 1: he sent to us as a nice little audio file.
- 15:45Speaker 1: And Doug, I will point out, in the entire history
- 15:47Speaker 1: of this show, in the entire history of this program,
- 15:50Speaker 1: only one person is that true, Yanni, Only one person
- 15:54Speaker 1: has ever been given call in credentials. I believe that
- 15:58Speaker 1: could be true, Dug Durn. Yeah, here is hey, Steve.
- 16:03Speaker 1: It's Dug during calling to wish you your family and
- 16:07Speaker 1: the home meat eat You're gig, Merry Christmas, happy New Year,
- 16:10Speaker 1: and a prosperous look forward. The next time we're together,
- 16:14Speaker 1: also called to make a little correction cut corn. Don't
- 16:18Speaker 1: like that expression. It's incorrect. It sounds foolish. Ah, corn
- 16:24Speaker 1: is either chopped, picked, or shelled when it's harvested. What's
- 16:28Speaker 1: left in the field is corn, stubble, corn fodder, or
- 16:32Speaker 1: even more correctly, corn stover. The stubble is the stuff
- 16:36Speaker 1: that's left when they chop it off, and the fodder
- 16:40Speaker 1: and the stover is the stuff that's left when they
- 16:43Speaker 1: just take the ears of corn or the shelled corn.
- 16:47Speaker 1: So please, in the future, can you make that correction?
- 16:51Speaker 1: Got me pulling my hair out. Thanks and happy holidays. Okay,
- 16:55Speaker 1: Colt when you heard that, I know he emailed that.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Initially emailed deck playing. I felt that you rolled over
- 17:02Speaker 1: like a dog. How so did you read my response? Yeah,
- 17:08Speaker 1: you said never again in my life or something like that. No,
- 17:12Speaker 1: I said, he said, please in the future, like make
- 17:15Speaker 1: this correction, and I said I will not, And then
- 17:19Speaker 1: I am going to stand by cut corn. You said, yeah,
- 17:25Speaker 1: cal said never in my life. I thought he meant.
- 17:28Speaker 1: I thought he rolled over like a dog and meant
- 17:30Speaker 1: never in my life. While I use that phrase again, No, No,
- 17:34Speaker 1: I I ad meant I'm sticking by a cut corn. Oh,
- 17:39Speaker 1: I see I could. I capitulated. I capitulated, and I
- 17:43Speaker 1: was like, man, he's right, what do I know? I'm
- 17:44Speaker 1: no farmer and I'm not. And then I called him
- 17:49Speaker 1: to hear him out on it. And I happened to
- 17:51Speaker 1: be driving around when someone who's got quite a egg
- 17:53Speaker 1: background and they were listening in on my call with
- 17:56Speaker 1: dog and he says, well, it's not concorn. I don't
- 17:58Speaker 1: know what the hell it because I've been calling it
- 18:00Speaker 1: that my entire life. And this guy knows his way
- 18:01Speaker 1: around a cornfield. And I noticed too in Doug's thing
- 18:06Speaker 1: he catches if you listen carefully, uh, until you can
- 18:10Speaker 1: patch us in. Doug is forming a sentence and he
- 18:14Speaker 1: there's a slight pause. He's like, and when they get
- 18:18Speaker 1: done chopping the corn, there's a slight fauce because he
- 18:23Speaker 1: almost like, the more I listened to, the more I
- 18:25Speaker 1: catch it. He almost says, cut the corn, but corrects
- 18:29Speaker 1: himself and swings are hit played again. Phil. The stubble
- 18:33Speaker 1: is the stuff that's left when they chop it off.
- 18:39Speaker 1: There's not all over damn place now. Now it's like Cristmas.
- 18:43Speaker 1: This place already smells. This place is gonna smell like
- 18:46Speaker 1: that's gonna smell like folks. And uh, for some reason,
- 18:51Speaker 1: all I can picture is somebody missing a finger and
- 18:54Speaker 1: you're like, hey, well what happened to your finger? It's like,
- 18:57Speaker 1: oh got cut off. No, ially, here's chop and the
- 19:01Speaker 1: thing that's left is the stover instead of the chop.
- 19:05Speaker 1: But you know, I think that, But you give your
- 19:07Speaker 1: theory about how where dogs coming from? And I love
- 19:10Speaker 1: Doug More. I told you I love Doug More. I
- 19:12Speaker 1: love Yoanni. I feel like there was a little pause
- 19:19Speaker 1: in that sense too. Um. I feel like maybe just
- 19:25Speaker 1: and this is just just kind of a random theory
- 19:28Speaker 1: that I just thought of five minutes ago, is that
- 19:30Speaker 1: maybe Doug's thinking is because where Doug comes from, there's
- 19:34Speaker 1: like a little region there around Casinova. It's a population
- 19:39Speaker 1: and like half of them are Durrance. And like you
- 19:43Speaker 1: said earlier, he there's cousins around that he doesn't even
- 19:46Speaker 1: know that exists, and they's got Rhodes named after him. Yeah,
- 19:50Speaker 1: maybe just there in that region, it's because it would
- 19:58Speaker 1: be like he could say this in my family, we
- 20:00Speaker 1: say chopped corn, because that would be synonymous with in
- 20:03Speaker 1: my community. Yes, geez, Doug, you're a big guy. What
- 20:11Speaker 1: do you mean. Everybody's built this way? Every time dog
- 20:16Speaker 1: goes out of tow him. These people are small. On
- 20:25Speaker 1: the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to
- 20:28Speaker 1: me swirl a crockpot. On the second day of Christmas,
- 20:35Speaker 1: my true love game to me two smokes sirrel a croco.
- 20:43Speaker 1: On the third day of Christmas, my true love gave
- 20:46Speaker 1: to me three pripers, two smoke press and a swirl
- 20:51Speaker 1: and croco. Damn that boy, I can think. Man, the
- 20:55Speaker 1: annunciation is not good. Do you know that they're saying
- 20:59Speaker 1: coot breasts. I just tripped out about the one the
- 21:02Speaker 1: coop breasts, which is rough, but the rest are very clear.
- 21:04Speaker 1: That's off to the choir. It's really good singing. Yeah,
- 21:08Speaker 1: he's in the choir. Yeah, and he really regards himself
- 21:12Speaker 1: as regards himself pretty highly as a caroler, as maybe
- 21:18Speaker 1: a lover of Caroline, but not as a caroler. Oh,
- 21:23Speaker 1: I never made that distinction. Yeah. Like earlier, I was
- 21:27Speaker 1: on the phone with my mother talking about latvian Um
- 21:31Speaker 1: Christmas folk songs, so I'm gonna have to sing one
- 21:34Speaker 1: for you later, and we kind of settled on one.
- 21:37Speaker 1: And because I wanted the one that had the right. Um,
- 21:40Speaker 1: what's it called? Is it called a refrain in English?
- 21:42Speaker 1: Like the things sing over and over at the end
- 21:44Speaker 1: of a segment. Of course, of course there's the chorus.
- 21:47Speaker 1: What's the refrain? Refrain would be that thing that comes
- 21:50Speaker 1: at the tail end of the song that you insert
- 21:52Speaker 1: that's a little We didn't start the fire anyways. So
- 22:00Speaker 1: she's sang the melody. I saying the melody. She's saying
- 22:02Speaker 1: the melody and finally said like, yeah, I think you
- 22:04Speaker 1: got it. But she says, you know it's gonna be
- 22:06Speaker 1: the most important for you is that maybe someone else
- 22:09Speaker 1: sort of sets the tone or that where you're supposed
- 22:12Speaker 1: to start, and then you go from there like, well,
- 22:14Speaker 1: only there's anyby in the room, it's gonna know the
- 22:16Speaker 1: tune for see that being a cord. Yeah, so he's
- 22:22Speaker 1: he's a caroling enthusiast rather than a good caroler. Phil
- 22:28Speaker 1: Who else is in the choir? Oh? Man, Yeah, I did,
- 22:32Speaker 1: there was HANSI. Philip was like our conductor. He's a
- 22:36Speaker 1: music man. Flip flushers and lushers in there. Did you
- 22:39Speaker 1: find that his um? Did you find that you could
- 22:42Speaker 1: accentuate his his part did you at the down listening
- 22:45Speaker 1: back to the files. I'm not even positive he was singing.
- 22:47Speaker 1: I think he was just there for show. He was
- 22:50Speaker 1: probably just mouthings. So old. Do you know who Milli
- 22:58Speaker 1: Vanilli is? I know the name. I need to tune
- 23:02Speaker 1: in and get new references for culture. I had tickets
- 23:06Speaker 1: to see Billy Vanilly right before they got If you
- 23:09Speaker 1: want a slightly more modern reference, he could say, like
- 23:11Speaker 1: like Ashley Simpson on SNL, thank you, Yeah, yeah, like that, okay,
- 23:17Speaker 1: old man Ronella hopped up on nut Man talking about
- 23:21Speaker 1: the way things were. Are you guys feeling this Nutmeg? No?
- 23:25Speaker 1: You know, I like man, but see, I'm like that
- 23:30Speaker 1: when people tell me about a disease, I feel like
- 23:32Speaker 1: I got it their day. My body was telling about
- 23:35Speaker 1: his body, who's the capillaries and his fingers are dying
- 23:38Speaker 1: and so he has a real hard time keeping his
- 23:40Speaker 1: fingers warm. And the whole time he's telling me, I'm
- 23:42Speaker 1: trying to He's like all the time about how sad
- 23:44Speaker 1: he is for his body because this is like could
- 23:45Speaker 1: be like a terminal thing. But I'm not even listening
- 23:47Speaker 1: to anything. I'm not caring about the body. I'm just
- 23:49Speaker 1: sitting here he's going, and I'm sitting there being like,
- 23:52Speaker 1: God do I have that? I have such a hard time.
- 23:57Speaker 1: So now that I hain't that nutmeg, I feel like
- 23:59Speaker 1: I'm tripping right. It's a creepers and his eyes are
- 24:03Speaker 1: like turning like blood blood color. And he's like sending
- 24:05Speaker 1: me messages and sending me messages through that Santa hat
- 24:09Speaker 1: and stuff. Well, you're finally getting it, then, I've been
- 24:12Speaker 1: doing that for years. He's like, I worshiped the devil.
- 24:16Speaker 1: That's what I'm hearing in the background. I was laughing
- 24:21Speaker 1: slightly this morning when I was fussing around, and because
- 24:25Speaker 1: we have an email, it's like, hey, remember bringing your
- 24:27Speaker 1: Christmas sweater. But it's like anything could be a Christmas
- 24:32Speaker 1: sweater if it's the thing that you're wearing a Christmas yeah,
- 24:34Speaker 1: but I feel like you that is your Christmas water.
- 24:36Speaker 1: This is my Christmas sweater. Yeah, And I did by
- 24:38Speaker 1: this specifically for Christmas. Yeah, is he your ugly Christmas sweater? No?
- 24:45Speaker 1: Those things classy as hell. The ugly Christmas swuner, Sam,
- 24:50Speaker 1: It's just it's for for ladies and gentlemen at home.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Cal's wearing. It's just a real bright red sweater. Why
- 24:59Speaker 1: do you have a shirt underneath it? Well, because I
- 25:02Speaker 1: didn't bring my dickie him. That's what you wear with that.
- 25:06Speaker 1: We but dicky's when you get Uh, it's like it's
- 25:11Speaker 1: like a it's like a clip on tie. It's like
- 25:14Speaker 1: the clip on tie the turtleneck world. Yes, well it's
- 25:17Speaker 1: like a turtleneck sweater minus the sweater. No. No, it's
- 25:25Speaker 1: the turtle neck. We used to wear them ice fishing.
- 25:27Speaker 1: It's a turtleneck that you just pull over and it's
- 25:29Speaker 1: got a little flapp that hangs down front and back.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Meant to be worn under a sweater. Yeah, but we
- 25:34Speaker 1: warm ice fishing. Yeah, just to keep your neck warm,
- 25:38Speaker 1: you put your dicky on. Not like what you're thinking. Oh, anyway,
- 25:43Speaker 1: I got this the gold mine and catch mydah. Which
- 25:49Speaker 1: if you're ever looking for any kind of old man
- 25:51Speaker 1: type of stuff, that's a real good place to go. Steve,
- 25:57Speaker 1: how's that. That's a good one like MA used to make.
- 26:03Speaker 1: Oh that's good. That's better. Mas. There you go, Okay,
- 26:08Speaker 1: drinking hand, We're gonna we're gonna move on. Um real quick. Uh.
- 26:13Speaker 1: What you guys have like um holiday? You know, food traditions,
- 26:18Speaker 1: culinary traditions. Yes, they're not. They're not necessarily uh you know,
- 26:24Speaker 1: centering around wild game. I haven't started that yet. My neighbor,
- 26:28Speaker 1: on the other hand, though, has smoked deer ham He's
- 26:31Speaker 1: a new hunter, only killed two deer and smoked deer
- 26:33Speaker 1: hand the last two years in a row. And the
- 26:35Speaker 1: other night told me he's gonna that's gonna be his
- 26:38Speaker 1: uh Thanksgiving tradition. Just smoked deer hams. That was pretty cool,
- 26:44Speaker 1: but no, for me, it's um. Pepercucas and pete dog
- 26:50Speaker 1: be dogs. Pep cucas are Latvian ginger bread cookies, but
- 26:54Speaker 1: they don't look or taste like the gingerbread that there's
- 26:58Speaker 1: ginger in there, which is why I use that um comparison.
- 27:02Speaker 1: But they're very thin wafers. There's a cookie out there
- 27:05Speaker 1: called the Moravian Christmas cookie if anybody's had those, and
- 27:10Speaker 1: that's like the closest store bought thing I've ever seen.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Um to Latvian gingerbread cookies actually means pepper cookie. Um. Yeah,
- 27:20Speaker 1: so they're very spicy with black pepper, lots of ginger thin. Um.
- 27:25Speaker 1: My great uncle used to love all the burnt ones
- 27:27Speaker 1: because every year you get a pan that's burnt in there. Anyways,
- 27:31Speaker 1: we make those. We kind of in Christmas shapes with
- 27:33Speaker 1: a little uh you know, so what would pass as
- 27:35Speaker 1: a Christmas shape among the folks. A tree, It looks
- 27:41Speaker 1: like a fir tree, star, a moon traditional, Yeah, moons,
- 27:47Speaker 1: We had a lot of moons. Huh. You gotta stick
- 27:50Speaker 1: of a moon as a Christmas shape because Santa flies
- 27:53Speaker 1: over across it. No, I would say, because the um
- 27:59Speaker 1: moon is somehow helping along the sun to come back alive. Yeah,
- 28:07Speaker 1: buy that our holiday. We had two holiday things. One
- 28:15Speaker 1: was how's it going? Ran taken a lot? One was
- 28:21Speaker 1: not ours but every year old woman. You know how
- 28:25Speaker 1: when you're a little kid, you have grandparents Day at school. Yeah,
- 28:29Speaker 1: our grandparents lived too far away and then they were dead.
- 28:31Speaker 1: But we had fake grandparents that would show up for
- 28:34Speaker 1: grandparents Day. Vivia Um Kokoma and what was your old
- 28:39Speaker 1: man's name? And these folks were just Barney and Vivian
- 28:43Speaker 1: Kokoma would always come to grandparents Day and pretend to
- 28:45Speaker 1: be our grandparents. Nicest people on the planet. Vivian Kokoma
- 28:50Speaker 1: would always have my dad give her a deer neck
- 28:53Speaker 1: or two. She would take the deer necks cook him
- 28:56Speaker 1: down and make mince meat pie filling, and then she
- 28:59Speaker 1: would jar the mince meat pie filling in glass jars,
- 29:02Speaker 1: and then she would wrap a ribbon around it, and
- 29:04Speaker 1: then on Christmas she would bring it around and give
- 29:06Speaker 1: it out as Christmas presents and we would get a jar.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Smellman gave her the neck. But that was one thing.
- 29:11Speaker 1: But the main uh culinary tradition is my mom would
- 29:14Speaker 1: make this thing called sticky buns. It's like you cook
- 29:17Speaker 1: a bunch of I don't know what they are, dough dough, right,
- 29:20Speaker 1: and it's got all kinds of sugar in it, so
- 29:22Speaker 1: that it kind of thing, yeah, and there's so much
- 29:26Speaker 1: sugar and caramel on the bottom. Then you flip it
- 29:29Speaker 1: over and all the you know, shiploads of caramel and
- 29:34Speaker 1: all the stuff that settled to the bottom is then
- 29:36Speaker 1: on top and it dries and you wake up and
- 29:38Speaker 1: eat that. We do this thing where my parents boil
- 29:43Speaker 1: a huge pot of polish killed bassa Christmas morning. You
- 29:48Speaker 1: are your a pole my mom's side of the family. Jiminski.
- 29:51Speaker 1: My dad felt that the poles um drank too much.
- 29:55Speaker 1: That could be true. That could be true, but it
- 29:58Speaker 1: has a horrendous smell if you don't like Polish kill
- 30:00Speaker 1: bossa very very strong smell. And my wife came into
- 30:04Speaker 1: the family not having that Polish backgroundground ah, maybe some German,
- 30:12Speaker 1: some English, not important feel you might have. For Mark's sake,
- 30:21Speaker 1: my wife, the English and Germans they are mortal enemies
- 30:24Speaker 1: once UoT time. Yeah, but they are buddies at one
- 30:26Speaker 1: point as well. But yeah, so she came into this
- 30:30Speaker 1: not prepared for that smell everymore on Christmas, and she
- 30:33Speaker 1: almost vomited when she was pregnant the other year because
- 30:36Speaker 1: a little killed bassa. Yeah, the smell feels the stinch
- 30:39Speaker 1: of the kill bossa. Yeah, so that's our thing. Polish
- 30:44Speaker 1: hold on big sausages. So you get a potfull of
- 30:48Speaker 1: boiled sausages. Then what you just eat boiled killed bassa
- 30:54Speaker 1: for your breakfast? The best you guys could do. Did
- 30:56Speaker 1: you make them or buy them? Bought them at a
- 30:58Speaker 1: traditional little Polish market, and then your mouth just boils
- 31:01Speaker 1: them up, boils them. She's got it. She's got a
- 31:04Speaker 1: pretty easy day, don't you. Then you dipping in cocktail sauce. No,
- 31:08Speaker 1: that's that's what they did get confusing shrimp. No, I can't,
- 31:18Speaker 1: I can't in the can in the Polish Kenyan household.
- 31:25Speaker 1: You guys, boy, go to the store, buy some kill
- 31:28Speaker 1: boss of boiling up, dipping in cocktail sauce. Yeah, I'm
- 31:32Speaker 1: not gonna sit here until you it's good. But it's
- 31:34Speaker 1: just what they do, and that's what we did. It
- 31:36Speaker 1: sounds great to me. And we also got any good
- 31:38Speaker 1: holiday want. How are they culinary? My grandma Marian my
- 31:42Speaker 1: mom's side of the family. She always makes lots of cooks.
- 31:46Speaker 1: You know, there's lots of good food, but there's always
- 31:50Speaker 1: little chunks of beard in my mouth from you, from
- 31:55Speaker 1: your beard of the elf beard. Um. York sure pudding?
- 32:00Speaker 1: Are you familiar with that? I made out of hog's blood? No,
- 32:05Speaker 1: This was like very confusing as a child because it's
- 32:07Speaker 1: called Yorkshire pudding. But it comes out and uh, it's
- 32:12Speaker 1: like that it's a muffing that's burned on top and
- 32:17Speaker 1: then it has kind of like a custardy consistency when
- 32:22Speaker 1: you like pull the top off. And ours were always
- 32:26Speaker 1: like a very savory thing, so you put like you'd
- 32:30Speaker 1: like use it to like mop up meat juice because
- 32:34Speaker 1: we're always always making beef with How can you have
- 32:38Speaker 1: any pudding if you don't eat your meat. You're like,
- 32:40Speaker 1: I'm dipping my meat and my pudding. Yes, but as
- 32:43Speaker 1: a kid, you're like, this is a muffing. Where's the pudding?
- 32:47Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get all excited. The kids are like it
- 32:49Speaker 1: was some pudding. Common then also they lay that out there, right,
- 32:54Speaker 1: So I eat this and then the pudding comes. But yeah,
- 32:58Speaker 1: that that's one of those like Christmas eat type. Thanks Sam,
- 33:03Speaker 1: anything I would say. Unfortunately, my family wasn't the most traditional.
- 33:07Speaker 1: I think the biggest tradition was we changed it up
- 33:09Speaker 1: every single year. But the one thing that we would
- 33:12Speaker 1: always get is eggnog, but we never made it. We
- 33:15Speaker 1: always bought the Southern comfort eggnog. Have you that? So
- 33:19Speaker 1: it was premixed. So when you guys are in high school,
- 33:22Speaker 1: did you guys call it soco? Oh yeah, definitely. And
- 33:27Speaker 1: so this is bringing me back. Thanks. This is much
- 33:31Speaker 1: better than the store bought. Believably good, Very good, Karin,
- 33:36Speaker 1: thank you. This is the best. Uh he wanted to
- 33:39Speaker 1: do it again. It's the best eggnog drink I've ever
- 33:42Speaker 1: had in my entire life. It is very good. Agreed. Unfortunately,
- 33:46Speaker 1: some of you guys have minus vanilla. I forgot to
- 33:49Speaker 1: put in vanilla. The first round vanilla. So we're gonna
- 33:55Speaker 1: need to top you off. Um, it's it's super simple.
- 33:59Speaker 1: It's just eggs, heavy cream, milk. You can do half
- 34:04Speaker 1: and half or not. U nutmeg, six nutmegs, Ye have
- 34:09Speaker 1: a little Yeah, yeah, we got plenty of here. Um yeah, nutmegs, cinnamon,
- 34:18Speaker 1: some sugar, good eggs, m vanilla and the meat eater
- 34:25Speaker 1: burbon which makes it. It makes a hell of a drink.
- 34:29Speaker 1: It tastes like if you just kept adding ice, this
- 34:32Speaker 1: would just be ice cream. Yeah, it's very good. Tastes
- 34:35Speaker 1: like Santa himself. Mix it up. I actually like to
- 34:38Speaker 1: have ice cubes in mine and let it thin out
- 34:41Speaker 1: a little bit more. Not quite so heavy. Du Nothing
- 34:46Speaker 1: tastes better than the first egg. No cocktail you have
- 34:49Speaker 1: every hear, nothing tastes worse than the last man, I
- 34:52Speaker 1: get burned out. Oh yeah, yeah about a gallon. That's
- 34:55Speaker 1: what I'm good for. I was saying more of like
- 35:01Speaker 1: a court, but it burned out after a gallon egg. Now, Oh,
- 35:07Speaker 1: you know, do you want to do a holiday food thing? Sure?
- 35:12Speaker 1: What do you have? Because can you tell me a
- 35:14Speaker 1: little bit about your background? Sure? Um? So my mom
- 35:18Speaker 1: is Chinese and She immigrated to the United States from
- 35:22Speaker 1: Beijing way back when. And my dad is a Jewish
- 35:27Speaker 1: kid from Brooklyn. So that's my background. So what do
- 35:30Speaker 1: you guys do around Christmas? It depends sorry, you know
- 35:36Speaker 1: what I mean. You can say Christmas. Uh. It kind
- 35:38Speaker 1: of depended on the year. Sometimes we would get together
- 35:42Speaker 1: as a family, just the three of us. I don't
- 35:43Speaker 1: have any siblings. The three of us would go out
- 35:46Speaker 1: to a very Christmas see only child, only child. Yeah. Yeah.
- 35:50Speaker 1: I grew up in New York City, so there are
- 35:52Speaker 1: plenty of very holiday festive Christmas ee type traditional dinners.
- 35:59Speaker 1: If we're too late see to cook. Um. What the
- 36:03Speaker 1: Jews normally do for Christmas is they go out and
- 36:06Speaker 1: eat Chinese food because Chinese are open. I've actually participated
- 36:11Speaker 1: in that one time. So sometimes that is a tradition.
- 36:15Speaker 1: And sometimes it's gotten together with the Jewish side of
- 36:18Speaker 1: my family and celebrated Christmas slash Hanukah. You don't You
- 36:22Speaker 1: don't really have like a specific day on which you
- 36:25Speaker 1: celebrate hanaka. It's an eight day thing. Um. But yeah,
- 36:29Speaker 1: so kind of just depend upon the year. You know.
- 36:31Speaker 1: One time you don't know this, but I'll tell you, Okay,
- 36:34Speaker 1: one time because of the International Dateline and an airplane,
- 36:37Speaker 1: I missed Christmas. Oh did you like you flew? Wait?
- 36:42Speaker 1: Explain that I was flying west across the International Dateline
- 36:48Speaker 1: and they're like, and it timed out where the essentially
- 36:50Speaker 1: was no Christmas Day that year? Was that? Was that
- 36:53Speaker 1: the worst year of your life? Was that the worst? No?
- 36:55Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, it just it was it wanted
- 36:56Speaker 1: to be like one of the more memorable Christmas. It's
- 36:59Speaker 1: absence made it be memorable. You know, it was in
- 37:04Speaker 1: it was in the It was just in the it
- 37:06Speaker 1: was the it was the tail end of the pre
- 37:11Speaker 1: nine eleven era. Okay, uh, oh, you know what I
- 37:17Speaker 1: want to talk about? Oh yeah, but to tell about
- 37:19Speaker 1: the different food things you guys eats some Chinese food. Yeah,
- 37:22Speaker 1: we would sometimes do Chinese food on Christmas. We would
- 37:24Speaker 1: sometimes do very Christmas ee traditional. You know, I think
- 37:29Speaker 1: when was that coming from? Because it was it coming
- 37:31Speaker 1: from your mother? No, it wasn't from coming from my
- 37:33Speaker 1: mom either, although my mom's side of the family does
- 37:35Speaker 1: celebrate Christmas. Um, what was your mom from Beijing Christian? No? No,
- 37:40Speaker 1: she wasn't. My so her grandparents, my great grandparents, were
- 37:45Speaker 1: Buddhist her mom and my grandmother was I should say
- 37:51Speaker 1: a little bit more on the philosophical Confucian side. Got it?
- 37:55Speaker 1: Do you feel that you have a Christmas sweat around
- 37:58Speaker 1: right now? I have a Christmas bread or is that
- 38:00Speaker 1: a holiday sweater? It is a Christmas sweater right now
- 38:02Speaker 1: because Rudolph's on it. Um, he's got a red nose
- 38:07Speaker 1: and white three D like poofball that's coming off the
- 38:11Speaker 1: edge of his hat. And um, this is so ugly,
- 38:15Speaker 1: it's amazing. It lights up. How come we don't have
- 38:18Speaker 1: a little all right, because because that would be really
- 38:20Speaker 1: so distracting. I don't think anyone would hold on krim
- 38:23Speaker 1: sweater has a battery in it. Come on, let's go waiting.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Oh look at that. Here we go. Huh, that's not distracting.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Keep this. Um, Yeah, I have lights on my sweater
- 38:40Speaker 1: that change color and flash constantly. Yeah. So her like
- 38:44Speaker 1: just below her collar bones, there are there's a there's
- 38:47Speaker 1: a line of lights right where her dickie would be
- 38:53Speaker 1: would taper off. All right, I'm gonna keep this going
- 38:59Speaker 1: for us the podcast. Okay, Phil rolls some more of
- 39:01Speaker 1: the Christmas song on the dat of Christmas My True
- 39:06Speaker 1: Love Game to me for miss meat pie three fried
- 39:10Speaker 1: perch juice smoke could send us for all in a
- 39:14Speaker 1: crock pot. On the fifth day of Christmas, my true
- 39:18Speaker 1: love gave to me fine bad old bachas for miss
- 39:24Speaker 1: beat pie three fried perch juice smokes send a squirrel
- 39:29Speaker 1: in a chron pot. On the sixth day Christmas, my
- 39:34Speaker 1: true love game to me six cheeks up, grouper, fine
- 39:39Speaker 1: old black chaps, miss meat pie three fried send us
- 39:46Speaker 1: squir all in a crock pot. Moving on in our
- 39:50Speaker 1: Christmas special Christmas Holiday Special? Uh Yanni on Instagram, how
- 39:55Speaker 1: do you do it? Used to be Latvian Hunter, but
- 39:57Speaker 1: now just at yannest But tell us that's right with
- 39:59Speaker 1: an underscoring there, dude, Yanni is so unbelievably close to
- 40:02Speaker 1: having a hundred k followers. Get that, man, he doesn't
- 40:06Speaker 1: realize hearing this. I've reached the Yeah, he doesn't realize
- 40:11Speaker 1: how much life changes. I haven't told you about all
- 40:14Speaker 1: the things that happened at that point, but it's gonna
- 40:17Speaker 1: blow your mind. It's like a whole secret world out there, Johnnie. Um,
- 40:21Speaker 1: I can't wait. Janni asked on Instagram people to share
- 40:27Speaker 1: with us the worst Christmas presents they've ever gotten in
- 40:30Speaker 1: their entire life. You'll shoot your eye out, kid, Yeah, yeah,
- 40:34Speaker 1: I wanna. UM, I have a bad I have a
- 40:37Speaker 1: Christmas gift story, uh that I like to tell every year.
- 40:41Speaker 1: It's like a t this is this combines two things.
- 40:43Speaker 1: It's a Christmas gift story in your tradition story. It's
- 40:46Speaker 1: my tradition to tell the story of a year in
- 40:48Speaker 1: the presence of my brother because it makes them so depressed.
- 40:51Speaker 1: When I was a little kid, they had a thing
- 40:54Speaker 1: called Secret Santa's Workshop. You gets familiar with this what
- 40:58Speaker 1: it was it was It was a venue for children
- 41:01Speaker 1: who didn't have access to um a vehicle to go
- 41:05Speaker 1: shopping for their family in such a way that their
- 41:08Speaker 1: family wouldn't know what they got him. Because when you're
- 41:10Speaker 1: a little kid, how do you go shopping for your mom?
- 41:13Speaker 1: Pre buying shot on the internet? You're picturing how trouble,
- 41:19Speaker 1: how hard it be right because your mom takes you
- 41:21Speaker 1: to the store. How do you ever get your moms
- 41:23Speaker 1: something so thank you? That in Mikey's Elementary now it's
- 41:27Speaker 1: a it's a fundraiser kind of a deal and it's
- 41:31Speaker 1: called Secret Santa's Workshop. I think they omit Secret just
- 41:36Speaker 1: saying his workshop. Yeah, maybe I added that, so you're
- 41:41Speaker 1: you get you Still it's still kind of like, it's
- 41:43Speaker 1: still kind of conns your mom a little bit because
- 41:44Speaker 1: you still gotta get money from your parents. But you
- 41:46Speaker 1: bring the money down and you get credit, and you
- 41:49Speaker 1: buy junk for your family, and you could get like
- 41:50Speaker 1: a jib when I was looking, you could get like
- 41:52Speaker 1: a gigantic racer, all kinds of stuff. I kind of
- 41:55Speaker 1: blew all my money and I didn't get my brother
- 41:57Speaker 1: Matt anything, and so I got Matt a sheriff's a
- 42:00Speaker 1: plastic sheriff's badge shaped like a star. Uh. I was
- 42:06Speaker 1: really excited about it. That night at dinner, my mom asked,
- 42:09Speaker 1: how was saying his workshop, to which Matt replies, it
- 42:15Speaker 1: was so stupid. In fact, it was so stupid that
- 42:20Speaker 1: they sold little plastic sheriff's badges. I was so upset.
- 42:26Speaker 1: I ran into the living room and wept. Wept. He
- 42:32Speaker 1: felt so bad that to try to make me feel better,
- 42:35Speaker 1: he promised me and actually went through with this where
- 42:39Speaker 1: he and I would start a pin collection based off
- 42:43Speaker 1: his new sheriff's badge pin. I like to tell that
- 42:48Speaker 1: story ever here, just to make him depressed all over again.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Uh so did he follow through? Do you guys have
- 42:53Speaker 1: a little collection? No, I think that we did actually
- 42:55Speaker 1: start a short lived little pin collection as part of
- 42:58Speaker 1: him being like I was wrong. I don't you know,
- 43:00Speaker 1: I didn't see the potential. In fact, we could start
- 43:02Speaker 1: a collection and this sheriff's badge could be the first.
- 43:07Speaker 1: That's great step, that's a good story. So it's yeah,
- 43:10Speaker 1: I think it's the most depressing thing in the world.
- 43:13Speaker 1: You like it? Yeah? Good ending When I tell it,
- 43:18Speaker 1: he just uh, it's I hope he's listening. The ruins
- 43:23Speaker 1: is Christmas. He hasn't had a good Christmas since he
- 43:25Speaker 1: was He hasn't had a good Christmas since he was eight. Yeah. Uh,
- 43:31Speaker 1: worst worst president people have ever gotten. Um. One guy
- 43:34Speaker 1: got a dog shaped hot dog cooker bun steamer makes
- 43:38Speaker 1: a barking sound when you're hot dogs done. Guy his aunt.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Remember we're talking about the guy that thought his aunt
- 43:45Speaker 1: was fairly attractive. Yeah, not that guy, but another guy.
- 43:48Speaker 1: His aunt came to blow up now when he went
- 43:51Speaker 1: away to college. Shoot your eye out, kid, that's a
- 43:55Speaker 1: fun one to open up in front of the fam.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Um guy wrote in that got a engrave Christmas ornament.
- 44:02Speaker 1: His name's Brian, but when he got it they had
- 44:06Speaker 1: uh misspelled his name, so just says brain. Uh dude. Uh.
- 44:13Speaker 1: Someone made him a hand knit mitten for quote my
- 44:16Speaker 1: junk with flip up urinating tip, he says. He says,
- 44:21Speaker 1: it's real nice on cold days when you're ice fishing
- 44:24Speaker 1: or glass and freezing your balls off. Another guy wrote
- 44:27Speaker 1: in that his dad gave him a four ten with
- 44:29Speaker 1: a bent barrel when he was a kid and told
- 44:32Speaker 1: him that it helped him out in the long run.
- 44:38Speaker 1: Guy said from his grandmother in law three years in
- 44:41Speaker 1: a row running now has received the same piggy bank
- 44:44Speaker 1: that is in the shape of a butt and farts
- 44:46Speaker 1: when you put coins in it. Guy rolled into the
- 44:49Speaker 1: guy gave him a beaver tail. Guy rode in that
- 44:55Speaker 1: former in laws, he says, for I was people are well.
- 44:58Speaker 1: I feel like get so many letters to people who
- 45:00Speaker 1: allude to having gotten a divorce, Like he points out,
- 45:03Speaker 1: my former in laws they didn't know anything about hunting
- 45:06Speaker 1: or fishing, and but they always want to buy him
- 45:09Speaker 1: presence that he thought he would like, and he says,
- 45:11Speaker 1: looking back on it, it felt as though their shopping
- 45:13Speaker 1: strategy was to ram shopping carts into the shelves at
- 45:18Speaker 1: Cabela's and get him whatever happened to fall in the cart.
- 45:22Speaker 1: I feel like that was a good piece of writing
- 45:23Speaker 1: When I read that, I really, I really like that,
- 45:25Speaker 1: because immediately I was there picturing how he got his presence.
- 45:29Speaker 1: They got him at one time, a camo do rag.
- 45:32Speaker 1: He got a deer drag system. He gotta wind up lantern.
- 45:36Speaker 1: He got a cough silencer, and he got he got
- 45:40Speaker 1: an apple sent to deer lure that he was afraid
- 45:42Speaker 1: to put anywhere that deer could actually eat it because
- 45:45Speaker 1: it was poisonous. Uh. Guy got his aunt and uncle
- 45:50Speaker 1: gave him socks with their pictures on them. So he says,
- 45:54Speaker 1: every time he opens his sock drawer, quote, there they're
- 45:57Speaker 1: watching me. Dude got some sweatpants that were designed to
- 46:02Speaker 1: look like blue jeans. Uh do, said his wife. He
- 46:05Speaker 1: told his wife he needed hunting pants. She told her
- 46:07Speaker 1: in laws he needed hunting pants, and so they got
- 46:10Speaker 1: him a pair of sweats. They had pictures of deer
- 46:13Speaker 1: on him. These are all great white elephant gift ideas.
- 46:19Speaker 1: My dad used to do this thing where he'd like,
- 46:22Speaker 1: give you a full body goose decoy to like add
- 46:25Speaker 1: to the to the spread, and you're like, yes, full
- 46:28Speaker 1: bodied use decoy, this is great. And then he'd be
- 46:31Speaker 1: like yeah you like that. Yeah, and he'd be like,
- 46:34Speaker 1: so maybe you could uh do a little bit better
- 46:37Speaker 1: on the grades this year. And it always left kind
- 46:42Speaker 1: of being like, God, I wish we didn't do presence.
- 46:45Speaker 1: What did he mean that, like if you got straight a's,
- 46:48Speaker 1: he might get a dozen. You know, I never read
- 46:51Speaker 1: into it very much or it got straight a's or
- 46:55Speaker 1: got straight as. So I never never figured out, you know,
- 46:57Speaker 1: he just was holding it out there that things could
- 47:00Speaker 1: get spectacular. What did you think that was the best one, Johnny?
- 47:03Speaker 1: My favorite out of all the worst Christmas present um
- 47:07Speaker 1: that came in on the old Instagram was a guy
- 47:10Speaker 1: got a I believe this actually came in more than once,
- 47:14Speaker 1: that a guy got a half of a bottle of
- 47:17Speaker 1: whiskey with a bow on it. What happened the other half?
- 47:23Speaker 1: Come on, That's the best part of present is that
- 47:26Speaker 1: you you think about it a second and you realize
- 47:29Speaker 1: what happened the night before? Oh yeah, I got you?
- 47:35Speaker 1: So yeah. I guess it could be a trip, It
- 47:37Speaker 1: could be a sad story for some people. But I
- 47:39Speaker 1: like to think about how someone like, Yeah, let's get
- 47:41Speaker 1: Yann whiskey, and then a while later, wow, whiskey, let's
- 47:45Speaker 1: drink a little bit. He's whiskey, he'll be he'll be
- 47:48Speaker 1: happy with half a bottle. You know what was very
- 47:51Speaker 1: on Yanni about that? Did you say half empty? I
- 47:55Speaker 1: feel like you're a half fold guy, and then you
- 47:58Speaker 1: just said half bottle of whiskey. Uh? Yeah, you know
- 48:01Speaker 1: what I'm getting. I used to running that thing over there. Good,
- 48:15Speaker 1: that's it, Sam. What what's the worst um gift you
- 48:19Speaker 1: ever got? I mean, I think it depends how you
- 48:21Speaker 1: look at it, because it's not really the worst, but
- 48:24Speaker 1: it's definitely the most random. Um right before I moved
- 48:28Speaker 1: to You know what, that's a that's a generational word random. Yeah,
- 48:35Speaker 1: because people my age don't don't they know what random means.
- 48:41Speaker 1: Something happened and then something happened, and people like ten
- 48:45Speaker 1: or more years younger in me have no idea what
- 48:47Speaker 1: the word random means. Okay, so what do you want
- 48:50Speaker 1: me to describe it as an odd gift? Odd gift? Um,
- 48:58Speaker 1: I'm never going to get up, Okay, so you gotta
- 49:04Speaker 1: as you folks say, you gotta random meaning okay, actually
- 49:09Speaker 1: it was random because she never sent gifts and then
- 49:12Speaker 1: just one random years I think it would be odd, okay, unusual, unusual,
- 49:19Speaker 1: just sent me a gift and um, it was a
- 49:21Speaker 1: taser and a box of condoms. That's great, she uh
- 49:26Speaker 1: getting at um, what's the order of operations here? Which
- 49:31Speaker 1: goes first? Did she give you one? You know, when
- 49:35Speaker 1: you're giving someone like I'll say, you're giving someone a
- 49:37Speaker 1: baby gun and babies, you'd be like, do no, don't
- 49:41Speaker 1: open that, open that one first. So well, she had
- 49:44Speaker 1: the taser in the condoms, so she's like, no, no no,
- 49:46Speaker 1: the lit ruin it. Open that one first. Well no,
- 49:49Speaker 1: she wasn't even present for the opening and the gift
- 49:51Speaker 1: and she you know, had them all together in one
- 49:54Speaker 1: big package basically not that big. And when you said
- 49:58Speaker 1: later and you when you called her, did you call
- 50:00Speaker 1: her write a note to thank you? Thank you my
- 50:02Speaker 1: mom was very important to my mom that we do that,
- 50:04Speaker 1: we write and you said, um, I really appreciated the
- 50:10Speaker 1: condoms and not the taser. Did she get confused because
- 50:16Speaker 1: your name is Samantha, but you go by sam Oh,
- 50:20Speaker 1: that would actually be ye? Was she kind of like,
- 50:24Speaker 1: was she kind of distant, very distant, very distant. Yeah,
- 50:29Speaker 1: she saw your like some guy named Sam, but it
- 50:34Speaker 1: was very weak, much more a week very virile, a
- 50:41Speaker 1: week virale that gl How did that make sense to you?
- 50:47Speaker 1: That's just the logical conclusion. I could come to form
- 50:52Speaker 1: a birth control appropriate to a gender appropriate birth control
- 50:56Speaker 1: for him and in a taser in case he was weak.
- 50:59Speaker 1: Things when I saw her in less, things get random
- 51:02Speaker 1: month and things got random with this guy, and I
- 51:07Speaker 1: had to taste him. Well, I haven't how to use
- 51:10Speaker 1: the taste yet, it had to charge it properly, and
- 51:20Speaker 1: he was just like setting her off for best and
- 51:22Speaker 1: worst case scenario. She's like when you go to the bar,
- 51:27Speaker 1: I shoot things I always like to bring with me,
- 51:29Speaker 1: and I just lay him on the bar kind of
- 51:40Speaker 1: I let the night run its course. Karn, we're gonna
- 51:44Speaker 1: talk about Hanica for a minute. Just keep this in
- 51:46Speaker 1: the spirit of the holidays. And how do you get
- 51:51Speaker 1: eight presents? Do you feel that they did that so
- 51:55Speaker 1: they could kind of like best the Christians? Well, who
- 51:59Speaker 1: just get press it's for like Christmas, even Christmas morning? Right,
- 52:02Speaker 1: So historically, um, Hanukah does not really have a tradition
- 52:07Speaker 1: of gift giving, I know, and then kids felt bummed.
- 52:10Speaker 1: My guess is that kids were bummed and they're like, oh,
- 52:12Speaker 1: you want to do presents, all right, we'll do eight days,
- 52:15Speaker 1: will best you? Will best you by a multiple of four? Yeah, yeah,
- 52:21Speaker 1: which is quite significant. Um. So a lot of Jewish
- 52:25Speaker 1: children get many presents over the course of many days.
- 52:29Speaker 1: Over right, it's like eight Christmas. So then it used
- 52:32Speaker 1: to be that the Christian kids were laughing at them,
- 52:34Speaker 1: but now they laugh at the Christian Now, yeah, how
- 52:37Speaker 1: did they get start presents? Do you know? Like, I'm
- 52:40Speaker 1: what years? Um? Well, what I've read, um is that
- 52:46Speaker 1: when Christmas became a national holiday in the United States
- 52:50Speaker 1: and the late nineteenth century, there was a shift to
- 52:54Speaker 1: gift giving for Hanukah. So when you're a little girl,
- 52:58Speaker 1: would you get them? Sometimes? Um? Well, that builds a
- 53:02Speaker 1: big expectation. Then they fall off the next year. You know.
- 53:06Speaker 1: My family was really inconsistent with things. So sometimes my
- 53:10Speaker 1: father might light a couple of candles during the eight days,
- 53:14Speaker 1: but he might skip like a day or two, and
- 53:16Speaker 1: sometimes I would get Hanukkah gilts, which is the the chocolate,
- 53:23Speaker 1: and then sometimes yeah, sometimes kind of waxy chocolate. Yeah yeah,
- 53:27Speaker 1: it's like probably really corn syrapy. It's normally like milk
- 53:30Speaker 1: chocolate doesn't really I like dark chocolate. But um yeah,
- 53:34Speaker 1: so we were we were inconsistent with celebrating that. So
- 53:37Speaker 1: sometimes I might get multiple presents sometimes, you know, but
- 53:41Speaker 1: they never they never rolled out for you all eight
- 53:46Speaker 1: Uh no, no, not consistently and that and that was
- 53:49Speaker 1: fine with me. I I wasn't like a huge like
- 53:52Speaker 1: give me gifts. I would like to think that I
- 53:55Speaker 1: was not a super spoiled on. We're gonna do a
- 54:01Speaker 1: thing for for people. We're gonna do like a hanka. Yeah,
- 54:07Speaker 1: do you spell with the or the ah? So there,
- 54:11Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't speak Hebrew, but the transliteration
- 54:14Speaker 1: I think there's kind of still a uh back and
- 54:18Speaker 1: forth between spelling it h A n u k k
- 54:22Speaker 1: A h and then c h A n u k
- 54:27Speaker 1: a H. Do you want to hear me speak Hebrew?
- 54:29Speaker 1: Go ahead, baruke out of time, No, breuke out of time.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Yeah that's what. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Did that
- 54:39Speaker 1: were you pretty impressed? Yeah? That's pretty good. Do it again?
- 54:45Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, yes, that's not even remotely Hebrew I
- 54:54Speaker 1: just heard that the other day. So let's say, let's
- 54:57Speaker 1: say for our Jewish, our Jewish listeners who like to
- 55:00Speaker 1: do the Hanaker tradition, you go to the meat Eator store,
- 55:04Speaker 1: the Mediator Merged store, and here's a great gift list. Okay.
- 55:07Speaker 1: On day one, get your special loved one are gnome
- 55:12Speaker 1: packing out a unicorn T shirt, which is a gnome
- 55:16Speaker 1: with a severed unicorn's head strapped to his backpack and
- 55:19Speaker 1: he's got his crazy nomebo. Day two, you can get
- 55:21Speaker 1: him our grave meat Eator cutton board. Day three, you
- 55:25Speaker 1: can get him the complete set of meat Eater spices
- 55:29Speaker 1: are charismatic megaspices. Day four you can get him our
- 55:33Speaker 1: nome reeling in the mermaid shirt, which is as we
- 55:37Speaker 1: emerged as a somewhat controversial shirt. We've talked about this.
- 55:39Speaker 1: It's a gnome, it's created the same gnome that caught
- 55:41Speaker 1: that killed the unicorn is out fishing and he's reeling
- 55:45Speaker 1: in a mermaid who's fighting hard. Uh. Some people have
- 55:50Speaker 1: thought that that it's that it's suggestive that people eat
- 55:54Speaker 1: mermaid meat, and they felt that it's controversial. I've I
- 55:57Speaker 1: don't know what's happening between the Nome and the mermaid.
- 56:02Speaker 1: Um almost as it's a it's a land of fantasy. Almost.
- 56:06Speaker 1: My brother looked at it and he thought that the
- 56:08Speaker 1: mermaid was gonna pull the Noman and eat the gnome. Um.
- 56:13Speaker 1: I thought that it was an elaborate courtship ritual. But
- 56:16Speaker 1: either way, it's a gnome real or mermaid. We also
- 56:19Speaker 1: have for the fifth day of Honiky, you get a
- 56:21Speaker 1: Lavian Eagle T shirt genuine Joanna's T shirt. UM. Explain
- 56:25Speaker 1: the Lavin eagle logo. M hmm, I didn't prepare for
- 56:30Speaker 1: this one. Um. It's an eagle, uh, symbolizes the Latvian eagle.
- 56:36Speaker 1: And then it's it's sort of like the it's we used.
- 56:40Speaker 1: There's a crest. There's a Latvian crest that we used
- 56:43Speaker 1: the three stars from and the three stars represented the
- 56:46Speaker 1: three regions of Latvia, so that's part of it. Um.
- 56:49Speaker 1: And then it says the Latvia Eagle and meteor on it.
- 56:52Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. On the on the sixth day, you
- 56:56Speaker 1: can get them some you know me and reality. Uh
- 56:59Speaker 1: little known fact mean Yanni running for president. Um runella Na.
- 57:05Speaker 1: I'm tripping so hard on nutmeg better hunting and fishing
- 57:09Speaker 1: for America. Our campaign slogan, of course, is better Hunting
- 57:14Speaker 1: and Fishing for America. You can follow along the campaign.
- 57:17Speaker 1: We got a campaign released video we came out with
- 57:20Speaker 1: there's a I heard tell there's a negative ad about
- 57:22Speaker 1: me and Yanni coming out soon. Um Biden and Trump
- 57:26Speaker 1: put together a negative attack ad about me and Janni.
- 57:29Speaker 1: I told you they're gonna come at us from both sides,
- 57:31Speaker 1: and yeah, they they teamed up to come after me
- 57:33Speaker 1: and Jannie. You can get bumper stickers, you can get
- 57:39Speaker 1: Runella patels, better Hunting and Fishing for America t shirts
- 57:43Speaker 1: to get all that for that person. Then on the
- 57:45Speaker 1: seventh day you get him a Gnome Sasquatch shirt and
- 57:48Speaker 1: here are same crazy g nome. It's modeled after the
- 57:51Speaker 1: old picture of a grizzly bear who's kind of attacking
- 57:55Speaker 1: a mountain man, but he's got his bowie knife out
- 57:57Speaker 1: and he's like, clearly gonna best the grizzly Well this
- 58:00Speaker 1: YETI sasquatch. Bigfoot has a grip on the gnome and
- 58:04Speaker 1: the Gnome is about to turn the tides with his
- 58:07Speaker 1: bowie knife. And then on the eighth day you can
- 58:10Speaker 1: get any number of our bandana series are instructional bandana series.
- 58:14Speaker 1: We have how to flay a fish, how to go
- 58:17Speaker 1: to deer, and how to kill a turkey. Well, like
- 58:20Speaker 1: everything you need to know about turkeys, all in the bandana.
- 58:23Speaker 1: At first we were running a real scratch. He's sort
- 58:25Speaker 1: of cotton. But now tell him what that is, Johnny.
- 58:27Speaker 1: We've got a new micro fiber one. Yeah, it's the
- 58:29Speaker 1: world's largest lens wipe in the world. That's right, it's
- 58:34Speaker 1: gonna be something excited kids underneath that tree, that's for. Yeah,
- 58:39Speaker 1: that's what I said. Maybe I missed out candles, candles,
- 58:46Speaker 1: burn candles in the windows sitting there with all that
- 58:48Speaker 1: media to merch. You know, I was gonna mention that
- 58:51Speaker 1: I think that it levels out because the Jewish kids
- 58:54Speaker 1: that I knew growing up, they didn't get presents. Every
- 58:57Speaker 1: evening they got a present, and so at the end
- 58:59Speaker 1: of it they got eight presents. Um, there's a lot. Yeah,
- 59:03Speaker 1: you don't think your kids are getting eight presents a
- 59:05Speaker 1: piece Christmas morning. Well, Sandy Claws brings some mom and
- 59:10Speaker 1: dad brings some Grandma brings a pickupload. Now, the kids
- 59:14Speaker 1: that really make out, the kids that really make out
- 59:17Speaker 1: are the ones that have a Christian mother or father
- 59:21Speaker 1: and a Jewish mother or father like my buddy Saul
- 59:24Speaker 1: from high school that you've met, roll right through eight
- 59:29Speaker 1: days of Hanakah and then be like sweet, wonder of
- 59:31Speaker 1: what's going to be under this, like another truckload of presents. Yeah,
- 59:35Speaker 1: he imagine the to merge that duke as a child
- 59:38Speaker 1: of divorce. I can say that was pretty lucrative as well,
- 59:41Speaker 1: because they're they're trying to outdo each other. It was great.
- 59:45Speaker 1: You did you did? You play it too? Like, Oh,
- 59:49Speaker 1: you're pretty special. I mean, now, dad, I mean not
- 59:52Speaker 1: like that, but I mean, you're pretty special. I wasn't
- 59:55Speaker 1: that bad. I spent so many years living out of
- 59:58Speaker 1: my truck that I could never quite get across the
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: fact that I couldn't. I I enjoyed the thought behind presence,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: but I couldn't really accept the presence because I'd be like,
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: this is a great frame picture. Um, it's gonna look
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: awesome on your wall, and I'll appreciate it whenever I'm here. Oh,
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: because yeah, I'm I supposed to like screw it to
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: the ref of my truck. Okay, So you know, when
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: everybody gets their presence anything, this is true for people
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: who celebrate Hanaka or Christmas, everybody's gonna get their presence
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: and um inevitably. Do you know many people who for
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: Hana could get gift cards? Um? Sure, yeah, I guess
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: that's like one of the days that your parents are
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: just like they got No, they're just played out. Just
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: take a gift card. Everybody gets gift cards and then
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: everybody gets returns. So you know, you get an Amazon
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: gift card whatever, um, or you get something stupid and
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: you return it and you get a cash credit. So
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: that leaves you in the awkward position. And also you
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: might be listening to this after Christmas, so none of
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: this has any relevancy to you. But you're sitting there
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: with a gift card. You got an Amazon gift card,
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: so now you're wondering whoy And I don't know what
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: to do with my gift card. So now Mark Kenyon
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: are very special and lovely Mark Kenyon is gonna have
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: a suggestion for what one might do with their gift
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: card this holiday season. Just a shameless plug. Yeah, sell
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: me on it. Mark's much anticipated book, You could pick
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: up That Wild Country, an epic journey through the past
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: present in future of America's public lands. Yeah, I wrote
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: a book. The first time we tried to bring this
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: book up, Mark got um. He felt there was something
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: bad would happen if he talked about it too earlyishers
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: or something. But it's out it's out there, that wild country.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Tell us her, tell us all about it. Mark put
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: a Christmas spin on it. Oh boy, now you're throwing
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: me for a loop. I would try something like this,
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: would say, everyone knows the joy of receiving a great gift. Well,
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: there's no greater gift than America's public lands. This is
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: very true. By something like that, But just to to
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: get a gift means one thing. But to understand the
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: thought behind that gift, maybe let's call the history behind
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: that gift, it means that much more. And that's what
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I try to do with this book. I do my best.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: I mean, it's too complicated for people, but it's good.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: It's good. The cliff notes on the book was that
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: I love public lands, but didn't understand how we got
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: these places. You know, yeah, you wondered, you know, how
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: do we get to this point that there was such
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: a contentious issue, and that I had places I go hunt,
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: fish camp, etcetera. So I decided, if I didn't know
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: that story, if I didn't understand how we got to
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: this point, there's probably a lot of other people out
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: there who were in the same boat, especially if you
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: didn't live in the middle of them stay here in Montana.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: Um So, I started diving into that myself, trying to
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: understand that story, that history and what was going on presently,
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: and then went and spend as much time as I
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: possibly could in those places to kind of have a
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: physical context for that. How many states did you travel to?
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: At least eight or two and ten I think for
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: that um So, Yeah, ranging from Montana packcrafting and fly fishing,
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: the Bob Marshall Wilderness up to the up of Michigan
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: backpacking Picture Rocks, down into Arizona and utah Um north
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: south east west, a little bit of everything, everything from
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: hunting and fishing to backpacking and camping and peak backing.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: When you were doing the book, did you, um as
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: you're doing all your research all along, were you thinking like, oh,
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: that makes sense, so that makes sense? Or did you
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: hit some parts You're like what? There were definitely moments
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: of I didn't know that that that explains things, more
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: of those types of moments. Whereas now I get it,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: this is all kind of coming together. Um, It's it's
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: no surprise to me now that they are so contentious
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: and controversial in certain ways because one of the things
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: that makes them so special, which is that they're for
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: all of us. They're co owned by all of us.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: We can use them for so many different things. That's
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: also what makes them so challenging to work with. So
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: um uh, there's a whole lot of stakeholders with a
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: whole lot of different ideas about how to use them
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: and manage them, and that makes them tricky but special.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: Now you're in the book, you obviously approached it with
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: a bias, right, Like you didn't set out to be
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: like should we have public lands or not? It's like
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: you came at you you're a lover of public lands,
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: and so you set off to write a book, um,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: explaining them right and and advocating for them. Did you
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: come away from the whole project more sympathetic to the
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: anti public land sentiment or did you come away more
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: baffled by the anti by anti public land sentiment? I
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: would say it, I would not call myself sympathetic too.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: But understanding of some of the challenges and complaints around it.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: When you look at there was a trend in public
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: land policy that might have made things more difficult for
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: some users of public lands, and I came to better
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: understand that. I I guess you could say sympathetic to
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: some of those users who might now be viewed as
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: anti public land to a degree. Um, But I'm not
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: sympathetic with the most radical of those elements. You've got
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: folks like the Bundees who take it so much further
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: than I think it ever should. But sure, I'm willing
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: to listen to someone who wants to use these lands
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: for some form of extraction or some form of grazing
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. Those are good, honest Americans
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: that have a perspective too. Um. So you gotta approach
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: it with a little bit of open mind, we say,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: you know, you typically you try to like put a
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: spin on your adversaries, and oftentimes you put a spin
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: on your adversaries that they're not comfortable with. Like we
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: talked about pep who are against public land. But the
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: people who are against public land don't say that, like
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: they don't say like I am against public land. They
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: say something different. Tell me, like, tell me how they
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: would describe, like, what is an anti public lands person
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: from his perspective? Well, it's typically gonna be someone who
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: is more so anti federal government in a lot of ways,
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: believing that there's an overreach of regulation, taking away freedoms
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: or something like that. They might say that we are
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: restricting their use or restricting their economic freedom. Fathers never intended, right,
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: so they'll they'll never intended common folk to be able
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: to go outside, so they'll be that kind of thing.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: They very rarely will come right out and say, oh,
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: well you're keeping me from making more money. Um, big
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: business at least. But but yeah, I mean everybody, everybody
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: comes to this though, looking at it from their own
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: individual lens of how you use these lands. So it
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: is it is easy to be biased. And I, like
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: you said, I've come to it realizing that trying to
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: as much as possible step outside of that a little
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: bit and try to understand. But it's hard to do
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: that given the passions and the things that we love
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: to do. Um. But what I found is that what
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: we're in now has been going on for decades and
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: it will continue to so there's never gonna be a
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: happy ending. I don't think it's always going to be
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: a push and pull, And I think that might have
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: been a great takeaway, was that we just better be
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: prepared for that tug of war to continue, and it's
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: incumbent on us to stand up and pull really hard.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: Did you and in doing the book, did you feel
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: that the that the part is an aspect of it
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: was cumbersome to deal with because most you know, I mean,
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: the what we regards sort of like anti federally managed
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: public land sentiment is I mean, in recent years, it's
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: like it's like a Republican thing, right, Like the Republican
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: Party had a like they need to give this up
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: in my mind, like whole hardly, but they had a
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: thing where they're sort of a plank in the party platform.
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: Is this you know, kind of like nascent opposition to
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: federally manage public lands and that that doesn't embody every
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: person in that party but the party in general. So
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: when you're writing the book, did you ever feel like
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: you're sort of like picking on one political party at
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: the expense of another, I'm sorry, picking like picking on
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: certain political parties and praising certain political parties because right
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: now it is sort of this partisan debate. Unfortunately. Yeah,
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: that was the most that's me saying it's unfortunate. So
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: I think it's terribly unfortunate. No, I was gonna say
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: that was the most frustrating aspect of the whole thing.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: Was that. A. I hate that it's become partson. B.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: I don't understand how they're how this could be because
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: this this is about as American of an idea as
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: I can think of, that being democratized land and in
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: a resource like this that all Americans can use and
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: benefit from. So yeah, it's frustrating. It's also challenging to
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: be able to have conversations around Parson issues without half
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: of the group just shutting off. Yeah. When I was
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: reading your book, that was the thing that stuck on me.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: It's funny because like the father of the American public
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: land system was you know, Republican, but it different at
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: the time, right the same way. I mean, you know
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: the party, you know what it means. The Republican change
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: radically three years ago, so you have that. But in
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: reading the book, I kept being like, ooh, it's kind
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: of like like when you look at like who's behind
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: what and who's doing what. It was like unfortunate. Made
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: me feel like, really, man, these guys gotta these guys
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: gotta pull it together, dude. And that's the thing I
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: tried to make clear though in the book, was that
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: I don't think it should be a Republican or Democratic issue,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: and I approached it from Hey, I'm right in the middle. Personally.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: I came from a conservative Republican background. I certainly, um
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: still support some things on that and I support some
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: other ideas to um, I'm gonna stand with anybody who's
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: willing to stand up for these places. So I try
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: to make it clear within the book, I'm not attacking
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: the Republican Party. I'm attacking. I'm attacking. I am attacking
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: an idea that right now Republicans are supporting that I
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: think is a big mistake on their part. Yeah, and
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: that's of changes all the time. Like I said, like
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: three years ago, it was a party of free trade, yeah, right,
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: and now like magically it's not so Yeah it could
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: you could. Hopefully we'll change around, all right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: Mark Canyon, We're gonna every's gonna go pick up you
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: know what. Listen, you don't even read the book, just
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: go buy it. If you don't buy Marx book, Um,
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: none of us. None. We're gonna kill Yanni if you
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: don't buy a Marx book. So think about that. It's
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: not a very that's not We're gonna it's gonna be horrible. Um,
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: we're gonna plause fingernails out and then um, well you
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: know what the guy was just telling me about. This
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do, Yanni. I was just talking
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: to a journalist who used to work in Washington state,
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: you know, and he was working on a story about
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: these these this little meth group. It's a little meth
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: production group. And they had a fallen out with one
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: of their associates. Kind of like a theater group. Yeah,
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: very structure, very similar to a theater group. Or they
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: were in the meth rather than the production of drama.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: They were in the production of math. And they had
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: fallen out with one of their associates and they tied
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: him up to your tree out in the woods and
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: covered him in bacon, thinking that he would be tortured
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: and killed by a bear. And he wrote a piece
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: about this, but then it wounded up being that the
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: guy was able to get the bacon and kind of
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: like wriggle it down in around the ropes and was
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: able to grease his wrists and grease his ropes and
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: slip out of the hold of the ropes thanks to
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: the bacon grease. And it was his favorite story he
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: ever wrote. And he said that every year around that
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: time he re shares it on Facebook. Why was I
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: talking about that? Oh yeah, because we'll kill Yannie like
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: that if everybody doesn't buy Marks books. So if you
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: want to keep you on your live, send us a
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: picture holding Marks book and then we'll not We're gonna
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: start probably a day or two pulling the fingernails. Um,
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: we'll broadcast his cries of agony and and and and
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: I imagine sales of skyrockets. So take your gift certificate.
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: How much is the book? Fifteen bucks? Fifteen bucks? Steal
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: still learn about public lands? That one when you're sitting
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: around and you're talking to some jabots, that's Yiddish, I think,
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: isn't it. I've never heard that word before. My dad
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: had three primary insults he would call people. No one
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: was Italian mingula morta. And I've checked with Italians and
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: It's like a like a mingula morta would be someone
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: who is dead below the waist, and that was a
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: very certain type of person. Some people would be a
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: horse's ass and that was a very specific type of person.
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: And some people would be a jabots, which was very
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: specific type of person in his mind. My father is
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: Italian and horses ass as well, a type of guy
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: horses as Yeah, very like a type of guy who
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: was a horse's ass. Um you're trying to look up ya, don't, don't,
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: don't fact check now, I just want to know what
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: it means, yaba. It means like what you are if
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: you don't buy a Mark's book. Why was I talking about?
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Many words? Was talking abouts? And that way you can
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: share one if they're they're like, well, I got some
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: questions about this public land stuff. Just say you know
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: what read this and yeah, when you're talking to some
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: yah boats and you're arguing with him about your talking
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: to some horses, ask and you're arguing with him about
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: public lands, and he's like, you'll be able to regale
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: him with facts you learned out of Mark's book. There
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: you go, Yah, you had your hand up. No I
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: did not. I don't think you're supposed to wear a
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: sand his hat that way. It's an l fat that's
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: how they wear it. How about Oh, because the ball
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: is in the front is into that Christmas wrap showing
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: some stuff today. Yeah, I like that, John aid Man.
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: On the seventh day of Christmas, my true love gave
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: to me seven huss and Pepper, six jeets Up, Grouper,
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: five big gold backgroups Fuller makes me postree fried Perch too,
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: So said the squirrel in the crack Pot. On the
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: eighth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: hey Corn, seven huss Fepper, six Jeetsup, Grouper five big
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: old backgrounds floor makes me postree f Perch two smoke Cropper,
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: send a squirl in a crock pot. Phil were Internet
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: hit us with the hit Everyone hit our listeners with
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: our with our tradition song from Filler on the Roof.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: It's not a Christmas that's right. We reached out to
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: people to give us their favorite that's not even a
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: holiday song. Did you grow up watching a lot of
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: Filler on the Roof? Yes, you're kind of, did you
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: know in my in my uh in in my lineage,
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: and you sit around watching um the Warmer Jimmy Stewart
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: wants to jump off the bridge. Yeah, yeah, did you
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: guys watch Filler on the Roof at all? Were you
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: raised to watch Fitter on the Roof? No, not really.
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: I mean my high school put on Filler on the
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: Roof as a play. Oh so you know about it?
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: About it? The high school put it on every year
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: the senior class. Oh, because you were raised you were
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: raised in New York. I was raising in New York.
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: That's cool. My brother loves that movie. We did an
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: episode once um where we're saying it, but we're saying it.
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: It was about how to get hot in permissions and
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: we did that song we do permissions Permissions that mark
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: I do remember that stuck in my head ever since.
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: Hit it again, Phil. So we reached out to people
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: on Instagram, even Ronella and uh ask people to share
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: with us their best or no about best. We're just
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: they're hunting fishing traditions. Hunting fishing holiday traditions are holiday personally, Wow,
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: that's the moment we picked that. We picked the ones
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: our Christmas like, Christmas is the probably the worst day
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: hunting on the planet. Every Christmas, we would go out
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: why is it the worst day where I lived? It
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: was just horrible hunting. It was horrible hunting conditions. Yeah,
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: he'd be like wags and out. You'd way out and
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: to crotch deep snow. At that point in time, all
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: the dumb squirrels are dead. It's not like great for
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: rabbits yet, Like rabbits would get good later when you
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: get like kind of compact and snow you can walk
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: around on. You start getting sunny days days and start
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: getting longer. Rabbits wanba be out. It's like a short
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: ass day. All the dump squirrels are dead, it's just
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: smart squirrels. All the leaves are down, so squirrels see
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: you come from million miles away hunting at you know,
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: scrub oat jackpine just horrible. But we would open our
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: stuff up and then we'd head out into the cold
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: and snow. And if if we four or five of
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: us pounded it hard and we gotta squirrel or two,
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: we'd be happy. Traditions. That was our tradition. That's right. Sorry,
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: Did you guys have any good ones? A lot of
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: all around hunting, no hunting fishing traditions? I had one
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: and this is one that a lot of our audience
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: wrote in about guys from Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania has a traditional
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: flintlock muzzle. Other season flintlocks only patched roundball buckhorn sites,
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: and it opens the day after Christmas. Right, So over
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: Christmas breaks like a piece of flint strikes a piece
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: of metal, and you could not use the caplock. That
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: was too modern for Pennsylvania how to be a flintlock.
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: So what was cool was because the same thing as
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: you said, it was always snow shitty conditions. The deer
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: had been kind of pounded, right, But very traditional gift
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: was a flintlock muzzleodor kit, right, So you couldn't use
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: it that year. You start saying, stand in that day, right,
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: And so by the time next Christmas came you could
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: take last year's present out and do the flintlock hunt.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: I used to force the sisters out. I wouldn't force,
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: but I would strongly encourage them to come out and
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: just do a quick bird hunt with me out at
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: Mom's place. Where is that, uh in Shepherd, Montana outside
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: of Billings and that's where you're raised sheep in Shepherd.
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: Isn't that funny? Is that intentional? Was that a tradition.
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: Uh no, No, it was the fact that those two
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: are very fiscally conservative, and they found on the ugliest
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: ranch that would have already been sheep fenced and uh dah,
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: considered as much as frugal, very frugal. But you hung
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: geese on that place. Now, yeah, well, um, that's a
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: nice permission, it is. But I had, you know, give
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: all the girls a shotgun and we'd go walk the
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: ditch for pheasants um and they were that. My sisters
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: were all, you know, very very safe, to the point
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: where there's always at least one rooster on the ditch.
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: My dogs would be working their butts off and the
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: bird would get up. The girls would track the bird
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: with the shotgun, never squeezing the trigger. And that was
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: the entire hunt because they were just not trigger happy, right.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: They were just like, man, I don't know what's gonna
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: happen if I hit this trigger. It was fun. Johnny, No,
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: I don't think I have a hunting fishing tradition. I
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: appreciate seven. If he didn't have a tradition, that is
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: a tradition. Mark nothing. When you guys like I sit
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: around your butts, uh well, you know, my one or
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: hunting and fishing related tradition. I guess on Christmas, I
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: always got a hunting or fishing magazine and I would
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: read that on my butt, but it's hunting. Yeah, but
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: it was Christmas, and mom said, stay in the house.
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: We asked these people. Yeah, this guy when he was seven,
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: he got a pellet gun for Christmas, and uh, he
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: goes to is. He goes out and starts just a
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: harvesting birds. He calls it an opportunistic hunt. And pretty
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: soon he's coming back with a sack containing some blue jays, doves, pigeons,
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: and affiliated woodpecker and his grand his mom comes out
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: and freaks out on him and says, uh, you know,
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you eat one of every one of those.
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: He says, I gotta plan and eat him anyway, And
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: his grandpa came out and said me too. So him
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: and his grandpa, who was born during the depression, sat
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: down and they ate up their birds. And then from
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: then on every year they do what he calls again.
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: They would do an opportunistic hunt for Christmas. Another guy
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: rolled in it Christmas Day. They'd always have their eyes
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: on some I don't understand this, he had some spots
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: where there was a lot of doves that would congregate
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: and parking lots of businesses, and since they knew that
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: the businesses were closed on Christmas Day, they would hit
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: those spots. Um. Another guy rolled into. Every year, he
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: makes plans with his buddy to go hunt, and every
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: year his buddy cancels the plans, And then every year
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: he has a real good hunt. And he's come to
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: believe there's some kind of higher juju at play here.
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: So now whenever his buddy calls and cancels, he gets
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: real excited. He's gonna get something. Guy says they One
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: guy says they always hang their unfilled game tags on
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: the Christmas tree. Um. This guy's my old stepdad's family
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: treated the first day of squirrel season as if it
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: was a holy day by always having it. This is
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: kind of like a playoff Christmas Eve. They'd have a
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: Squirrel's Eve family dinner and celebrate the night before. Then
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: they'd get up and meet at waffle house at three
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: am and then go get him. The use also liked
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: on the holidays, they would like to go shoot pigeons
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: out of the barn. And he got to be at
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: the age where they told him to go in and
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: spook the pigeons. He didn't really know what they meant,
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: and he went in and blew a hole through the
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: barn roof a guy. He says, they used to hang
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: their quivers up instead of their stockings so Santa Claus
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: can give them new arrows. Oh, I love that one.
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: I'm stealing it. Guy says quote, I take the old
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: lady and the hound out and shoot down our Christmas
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: tree with a twelve gage. Guys, since we got says,
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: we shoot our second guy. We shoot our tree down
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: with the shotgun. We call it Christmas tree hunting. Another
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: guy says, we've been doing this for probably twelve or
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: fifteen years. It started when my dad and I went
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: lyon hunting with the secondary objective of cutting down a
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: Christmas tree. While out, we found a tree to harvest,
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: but realized we had forgot to saw our acts, so
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: we shot it down with Dad's thirty thirty. It's been
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: a tradition ever since. A guy rode in. They pickled tongue.
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: But the thing he brought up his boxing day. You guys,
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: what boxing day is, isn't that Canadian? Yeah, it's the
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: day after Christmas in Canada, they box all their ship up.
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: I don't know what they think they all fought, but
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: someone told me that they just he thinks it's because
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: he boxed all yourself up and go home. It's a holiday.
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: Sounds not have any Canadians in the office. No, not
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: that I know about. The tradition. Uh. Guy, his dad
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: always saved his deery shot in the fall so he
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: could use them to make reindeer tracks outside. I had
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: that happened to me when I was a kid. Look
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: up when one morning and there was reindeer tracks all
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: over and Santa wrote a message in the snow. Sure
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: it wasn't white tail tracks, Well some kind of tracks.
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: I feel like you should know anybody at the time.
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: I didn't. Man, I know you didn't hunt on Christmas,
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: so you weren't that dedicated. It was easily fooled. You
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: were nice. Enjoy that. Can we jump back to the
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: opportunity hunter yet? Oh, the guy that hunts all the
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: songbirds with his gramps. Yeah, yeah, go on, it's not poaching,
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: it's an opportunity hunting. That's what his grandpa from the
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: depression would call it. His grandpa called an opportunity. Yeah,
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: I don't know that, do I do? I need to
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: take the time to point out the one shouldn't go
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: out and on Christmas Day and kill pileated woodpeckers and
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: eat him with your gramps. Okay, sorry to back up.
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: Not that I'm supportive of it. You know this was
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: a funny story. Not enough supportive of it. I just
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: tell him like it is. He wrote in Um, I'm
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: not speeding, officer, I'm taking advantage of the opportunity on
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: the road and going very fast. Have a nice It's
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: an opportunistic it's a tradition. Where are this guy is
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: saying that every Christmas Eve so his mind dad had
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: a deal or his my had to wrap up the presents,
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: so the old man to take him out to fish
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: snook under the bridge and Marco. Where's Marco, Florida, Florida.
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: So guy from Marco, Florida, Christmas Eve comes around, mine
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: needs to wrap up all the president's dad takes him
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: the fish snook under the bridge. One time they're out
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: there on Christmas, even as old man, they get a
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: sting ray and get it into somehow the old man
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: gets the barb through his thick leather work boot out
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: the other side, so he cuts the stingrays barb off
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: even though it's stuck in his leg. So now he
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: just shows up with a stingray barb in his leg.
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: The nurse on duty, uh somehow she gets the idea
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: to put hot water on to neutralize the pain, but
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: uses uh, such scolding hot water that it thoroughly blisters
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: the old man's foot. The eventually get the bar about.
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: He shows up at home and he's got the stingray
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: bar which they extracted, tied around his neck as a necklace. Says,
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: we'll always remember Christmas. Two thousand two. This guy says
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: what they like to do on Christmas is they bond
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: by going out and hunting pack rats. The two kids
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: take twenty twos and the mind dad bust up the
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: pack rat mound so everybody can shoot. Oh that's a
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: good exchange. Fun. He didn't. He didn't say my guests
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: would be Uh, yeah, I don't. I don't want to
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: speak for him. Um. This guy says, I ignore my family.
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: I go fishing instead. This guy says that every year
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: Gramps would get out. Oh, Chef Cato. This guy is
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: good dude. He says that every year Gramps would get
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: out whiskey and pour a shot down the barrel of
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: his single shot twelve gage. He was thinking it for
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: all the game it brought is deep and touching. Um,
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: my grandfather take my dad and I out quail hunting,
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: and we couldn't quit until we all got our limit.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: With the hunting was tough. I'd end up eating some
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: of his old Vienna sausages that he'd put down by
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: the pickups floor heat or to warm them up. He
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: always has some stale salteines to go with him. Uh.
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: This guy they like to shoot, I'm not quite sure.
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: They like to shoot bottle rockets at the our house.
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: This guy anyone that's all about? Um? This guy is old.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: Man's got a cannon he likes to pull out. It's
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: a miniature cannon and it perfectly fits a twenty gate shell.
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: So he takes the pours the shot out, leaves the
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: wad and the powder and the primer intact, and instead
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: of where the fuse would go, he shoves this shell
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: up in there and strikes it with a hammer. Guy
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: reports his louder and hell on the ninth day of Christmas.
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: My true look in to me nine buck, tom tacos,
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: eight corny be your ham, seven huss and pepper, six
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: cheeks on trouper, five big old back trous or makes
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: me pies, three fried perch to smoke Cooper. Send a
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: squirrel in a crock pie. On the tenth day of Christmas,
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: My you're looking to me tan gators sliders, nine buck,
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: tom tacos eight corner your hand, seven huss and pepper,
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: six cheeps of grouper, five big old back STAPs or
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: makes me pies, three fried perch to smoke Cooper. Sen
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: a squirrel in a crock pot. On the eleven day
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: of Christmas, My true love gave to me leaven pancer
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: from like senn Gator sliders. Sign buck tom tacos, eight
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: corn beat ham, seven hussan pepper, six cheeks of grouper,
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: five big old back trops. I got a little story
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: I'll tell because it was kind of about what we
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: were just talking about about deer using deer prints on
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: the snow outside. When we were kids, my parents would
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: get the neighbors. They had like a leather it's like
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: a half of a belt. I had a bunch of
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: bells on it. I don't know what you call it,
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: but you could like hanging off of a door, you
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: know when you open the door to the bells jingle.
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: That thing was like part of the Christmas kit. They'd
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: whoop you guys with it. They would get the neighbors.
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: They would give all the presents. We had no presents
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: Christmas morning under the tree, there was zero. We'd open
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: a bunch of Christmas Eve like that. We're from each other.
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: Christmas morning, no presents under the tree. Then you'd be
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: sitting around and having some breakfast, and then all of
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: a sudden you hear jingle jingle jingle, and we but
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: what did you hear that? Go in that window and
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: we grow in to the window, and then by some
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: other window your jingle jingle jingle like it's daylight out, Yeah,
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: daylight out. And then and then all of a sudden
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: at the front door, there'd be like a really big
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: jingle noise and whatever, and we'd run to the front
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: door and you open the door and there'd be a
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: giant sack full of presents. That's a good Who would
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: drop him off the neighbor Santa Santa would drop him off.
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: That was your guys tradition. That was on Phil that's real.
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: That's nice. Thanks for sharing, all right, Yeah, do you
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: do that in your family? No, we haven't. No, my
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: kids are already like there's no such thing. Oh man, dude,
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: you gotta tell him the truth. Janni area hasn't paying taxes. Yeah,
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: it's really odd thought. Our houses that we have, like
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: they staunchly are, are nonbelievers of Santa Claus and Karma.
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: I try to drop Karma and then the other day
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: and they're like, that's the craziest we ever heard. Yeah,
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: like if some guy, you tell me, some guy doesn't
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: shop drop off press, should not believe it that they
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: lose a tooth and did. They are all in on
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: writing that letter too. We've named her pearly white, pearl white,
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: I forget which one we use, but they're all into
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: writing that letter, and they are very serious and like
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: there's no questioning whether or not she the fairy comes
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: and trades out to doental work for cash. But yeah,
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: Santa Claus and Karma, they're not into it. You're only
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: speaking that. Did you hear that noise? What is that noise?
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: It wasn't bells, wasn't it? It's son of a bit
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: Christmas miracle. That's karma. Oh you a special holiday, the
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: special Holiday special, boys and girls. This is called the
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: kids corner of the special Holiday Special. When we get
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: a visit from Big Man himself and you you people
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: who might not appreciate how special saying is. Let me
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: let me hit here with this. That's something I'd like
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: to revisit. This is uh this some stats pulled by
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: Spy magazine many years ago. This establishes how miraculous the
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: Santa Claus Just how special does it happen? Here? This
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: man and are this man here in our presence? He
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: every years services and estimated three hundred and seventy eight
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: million Christian children. If you imagine that fift of those
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: Christian children are bad and don't get anything, so he
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: doesn't need to do anything for him. And you give
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: it that, you have a whopping three point five Christian
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: children per household. This man still is visiting every year
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: eight million homes. Even with the rotation of the earth.
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: He's only got thirty one hours of darkness to get
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: it done. This man in our presence, right here at
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: busiting us here today can pull off eight hundred and
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: twenty two point six home visits per second. It takes
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: him a thousandth of a second to pull off a
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: single home visit, not counting trans oceanic legs of his trip,
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: this man travel seventy two million, five thousand miles every Christmas.
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: He's going six hundred and fifty miles per second. He's
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: going three thousand times the speed of sound. If he
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: were to only bring each kid him easily two pounds
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: of presents, this man pulls three hundred and twenty one
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: thousand tons of toys behind him in his sleigh. His
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: lead reindeer. His lead reindeer at these speeds is absorbing
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: fourteen point three quintillion jewels of energy per second. If
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: these were normal reindeer, he would be sloughing off. If
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: these were first off, these are no reindeer. He would
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: need two hundred, fourteen thousand and two hundred reindeer to
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: pull that load in four point to six thousands of
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: a second. Two fourteen reindeer at this speed, or we
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: sloughed off into char at that at those speeds. Stephen, Stephen,
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: I'm not a numbers guy, but that sounds wonderful. This
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: man sitting here today is subjected to send trivical forces
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: seventeen thousand, five hundred times greater than the earth gravitational force.
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: He is pinned to the back of his sled with
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: four million, three hundred seventy five thousand and fifteen tons
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: of force at those speeds, Ladies and gentleman standard class.
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. If he can't do that, if
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: he can't do that, then he damn sure wouldn't be
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: able to write a good poem. Damn right. Listen, Stephen
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: uh here, you have child three children? Three children, correct?
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: One girl and two boys. That's correct. That correct, that's
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with your program. The elves were telling
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: me all about sounds lovely. They told me you have
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: three children, one boy? What, one girl and two boys?
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes, that's correct, Santa. Your first boy's
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: name is Ryan incorrect, your girl's name is Janice correct,
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: and your second boy's name is Marcus. No, you're right,
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: that's correct. That's lovely. You have a television program. I'm
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: I've not seen it as it's not a knitflex that's
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: not that's that's wonderful. I'm very proud of all of you.
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, and you're not welcome at the North pole
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: because the elves telling me that you kill brain deer
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: on occasion I have. We won't speak of it. What
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: do you need now for me? Very busy for kids
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: to round out Kids Corner in the first annual special
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: Holiday Special. Uh, we would like a poem? You would
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: like a poem? And knowing the incredible feats, you're a bow.
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: I feel like it's a small thing. I've just written
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: it just now. Are you ready? I am ready. It's
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: called twas the Night before Deer Season. I've just written
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: it in the last minute. Are you ready, Anthony, I'm ready. Santa,
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: You're naughty. Twas the Night before Deer Season went all
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: through the woods. The hunters were prepping all of their goods.
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: Quiet quiet, Stephen, Santa's talking you shush it. The bass
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: layers were hung in the wall tent with care and
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: hopes that first light soon would be there. Janice or
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: Janie was nestled all snug in his cot with visions
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: of cross hairs and taking the shots with and Cal
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: and his lip broom, and Steve and his wool. They
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: each had a bottle of whiskey to pull. When out
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: of the darkness arose such a sound Stephens sprang from
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: his chair to see what was around away to the
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: tent flap. Taking immediate flight, he threw back the canvas
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: and stepped into the night with an led lamp strapped
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: to his head. He saw in the darkness a book
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: in its bed, and what, to his wondering eyes should
- 1:37:25Speaker 1: he see? The buck's giant rack had rubbed every tree.
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: His frame was wide, and taking one more look, it
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: was a buck. Moon and Crockett would put into their
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: book his ties, how they twinkle, His muscles hal tents,
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: His aunt was like the pickets, and the most wonderful fence.
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: The big giant buck had a broad, saggy belly that
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: shook when he laughed, like a bowl full of jelly.
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: Calm down, Mark Kenyon, you seem to be excited. You're sweating.
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: Your brow is filled with Santa doesn't sweat. I get
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: very busy, but I do not sweat. You are a
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: sweat hearing in this. You should get a handkerchief. He
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: was chubby and plump, with full of cold fighting fat.
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: Though the meat eater man had ruined his nap, Steve
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: dreamed to be shouldering and naming his gun, gripping and grinning,
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: sure wouldn't be fun. The buck piste on his tossils
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: and with a twist of his head, let Stephen know
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: there would be nothing to dread. He sprang down the trail,
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: looking just like a missile, and the way he flew
- 1:38:43Speaker 1: like the down of a thistle. But the hunter exclaimed
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: as the buck ran out of you, I hear, does
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: and spike box have tasty back straps too? Ho ho
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: bet eaters. Then I just wrote that. Now it took
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: me one minute. In twelve seconds, that's valuable time. Quite health.
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: Who let you out of the workshop? Santa, thank you
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: so much for dropping by. There ends the end of
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: the kid's corner of the special Holiday Specialist. And if
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: you'd like, we're gonna step out of this room and
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: we're gonna go do the Latvian holiday tradition of melting lead.
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: And then you breathe all those toxic fumes, and then
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: you throw the lead into a bucket. It's a bucket
- 1:39:36Speaker 1: of water. The lead slidifies into a crazy shape. You
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: hold the shape up and make a finger puppet with it,
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: and then that predicts your future, if you'd care to
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: join us. I have no idea what you're talking about
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: that sounds dangerous. I've never been to a lot for you,
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: but it sounds nice. So go on, Stephen, go on.
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: All right, everybody once again, give it up for Santa
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: busy and busy man. All right, he's gonna go to
- 1:40:03Speaker 1: the shop mall. Goodbye, goodbye. He's wanted right now at
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: four thousand shopping malls. Listen to the hunting collectors. Okay, Yanni,
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: what do we need to know, you know, setting out
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: to do this, Well, what you need to know first
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: is that all these traditions, like I said earlier, club
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: celebrating the winter solstice, not necessarily Christmas, and the winter
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: solstice is like the it's the new year basically on
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: like a calendar that nature provides. Right. So if you
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: just throw out December in January and just looked at like,
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: what when the year sort of flips over for uh yeah,
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: days get mighty shortly, it's all depressed. Day start getting
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: longer again. So all of this stuff sort of has
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: like a finish up with one thing, start a new
- 1:40:55Speaker 1: thing theme going throughout the whole thing. Um before, we've
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: talked about the ule log, which I think now after
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: doing some research on the ul log. It's not exactly
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: the same thing, but the log that we like to
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: toe toe around the house with a rope while we're
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: singing Latvian folk songs. Yeah, I've been to this, You've
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: been to it. That's right, everybody, you chop what happens now?
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: I can't remember what I did. Um, we dragged the
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: log around the house three times to rid the whole
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: homestead of any sort of bad juju, bad spirits, anything
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: that might be negative, like surrounding like the place itself,
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: right then, so that the humans can participate sort of
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: getting rid of their own demons, mishaps, negativities, anything bad
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: that you want to sort of forget from the last
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: year and put it behind you and have and be
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: able to look forward to the clean slate. You can
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: do And I read recently that you can use multiple
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: ways into the log. You can chop it, which is
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: what we do. Yeah, Like I walked up and I'm like, yeah,
- 1:41:58Speaker 1: it's now, that's yat it. He and I wept and
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: chopped into the log. Yeah. You could also, um, just
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: tie a little string around the log. But he could
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: do that and that sort of symbolize that way. Yeah,
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: we once did we were at a place where we
- 1:42:16Speaker 1: didn't have room for the log or whatever, and so
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: instead we all just wrote things down on a piece
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: of paper and like sort of like a scroll and
- 1:42:23Speaker 1: rolled it up and then everybody would just pitch them
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: into the fire. So like urban parents who aren't comfortable
- 1:42:27Speaker 1: with their children wielding an axe, you can have them
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: go tie. Oh, yeah, that's right. And so you've got
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: a big bonfire going. And so once everybody's done chopping
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: or tying their thread or string onto the log, you
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: pitch it into the bond, just a string, because you
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: know what it means, that's right. And again it's just
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: the it's the traditional is just symbolic of you know,
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: leaving the bad stuff behind from the last year traditions, tradition.
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: I want to give you guys a little hot trivia tip. Guys,
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: this very handy this holiday, I think, so right when
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: don't you like a little you're a trivia player, phil
- 1:43:11Speaker 1: Onn't you like like, well, it's like a tip that
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: might come in handy during trivia because I feel like
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: this questions that could come up in trivia. Does anybody
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: know where and when the first Christmas tree was erected? Germany.
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: I thought they called it the old Tall bomb. Yeah,
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: they did it about a hundred years after they erected
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: one in the capital city of Latvia. Riga that you're
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: telling me your own research, but I'm not here to
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: debate it at this moment. Want to give you guys
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: a little telling me that the Latvians came up with
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: the Christmas tree. Men of the local merchants guild decorated
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: a tree with artificial roses, danced around it in the marketplace,
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: and then set fire to it. God, you guys are dramatic. Dramatic, Yeah,
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: I mean burning every It's like just all the decorating
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: and burning. It sounds like all that and fire. Yeah yeah,
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: what do you nay? Burn it? Then decorated you have bonfires? Okay,
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: Why did that guy send us the thing about how
- 1:44:34Speaker 1: Lava is the most introverted country? What about it? He
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: said that Lavia he saw something at the Lavian embassy
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: that said Lavia is the world's most introverted. Yeah, trying
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: to get introvers to like talk about their introvert noess,
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: but but you guys have such uh like flamboyant expressions
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: around the holidays. It just doesn't strike me as introversion. Introversion.
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: I think it just seems flamboyant because you've never heard
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: of it. You know, if if if someone had never
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: heard of your Christmas traditions and you told him about
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: it for the first that's a good point. I'd be like, No,
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: a huge dude comes down to chimney dude, and then
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: we take some raw eggs and mix them with milk
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: and cream and whiskey and drink it. Yeah, it sounds weird,
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: but okay, we'll try it. That's a good point I
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: ever thought about like that. I gotta Latvian folk song,
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: um here a traditional My mom said, I needed somebody
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: else to tell me what's uh note to start on,
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: But we don't have anybody here that can help me
- 1:45:33Speaker 1: out with them. No no, no, no, no, no no,
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: no dubbing a leetle called no, I missed it. You
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: guys want to listen to my mom us with your mom.
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: Let me it's not it's not hold on. Let me
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: just be available to let me just listen into her
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: for just a second. And then no, no color do
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: color do zia maslak i calor do color do the
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: c s KiHa gardi color do color do? That's Christmas.
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Oh you know, you know, a good showman
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: would have gone because now you gotta follow that up.
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: I was some Yeah, I would have song and then
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: played your mom because now you gotta that was beautiful
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: and then you gotta get now. Yeah, I know. All
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: I wrote down was start alone and go high being
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: all yet inch le cala do cala do zia mas
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: fatkuva god i cala do calla. That's that's wonderful. Give
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: a cop more Lysiani. I like it when your mod
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: does it. I bet there's a little more melody and
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: harmony and all those things associated with what music is,
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: what you like to hear and muse. Let me hear
- 1:47:15Speaker 1: it again. Mix it into the dance remix version. It's
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: still cute and hell to watch. It's still cute and
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: hell to watch you sing. Thanks, umv see see ki
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: ja god dingy cala do calla do see that being
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: you vs. Nah y'a calla do calla do be soon
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: nacked he sets he's daga cala do calla do see
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: da being y'all? Look do I see calla do calla
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: do wonderful, wonderful couple more, No, there's only one more. Anyways,
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: you want to know what the words mean? Uh? Come,
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: they told me rumba pump pump. You got the rumpa
- 1:48:02Speaker 1: pump pump. Yeah, that's just the chorus. So Kala dow
- 1:48:06Speaker 1: is the same in English as it isn't latvian um,
- 1:48:09Speaker 1: but it's uh sorry. A silver rain was falling at
- 1:48:15Speaker 1: winter solstice night. All the teeny tiny branches gave the
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: silver a ride. Candors candles burned all night long in
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: silver candle holders. The moon shows the way to those
- 1:48:28Speaker 1: bringing the Sun's daughter. The son gave her daughter from
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: the land of the deceased to this land. Geez. I'm
- 1:48:36Speaker 1: not sure if it's the nutmeg, but that's truth about
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: that's translation of the song. So someone else might give
- 1:48:45Speaker 1: you a different version, but there you go. So to
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: look into the future. Um, we have what's called limus
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: leah shanna, which if you translate that literally, it means
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: pouring luck or pouring happiness leah shian of being the
- 1:49:05Speaker 1: verb pouring and lineman being luck or happiness. Um. Researching
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: for today, I don't think I'd ever personally defined what
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: linement was to me, but it comes come to find
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: out it's very hard to define, let alone translate, and
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: that Latin philosophers have sort of like battled and debated
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: over this for hundreds of years because it's not just
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: like um, happiness, but it's more of like a state
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: of being. There's like other emotions attached to it, from
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: simple satisfaction to great joy. Um. Some theologians and philosophers
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: describe it as living a successful and good life rather
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: than a simple emotion. So it's deep. So what you're
- 1:49:47Speaker 1: about to do encompasses all that. You're not just like
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: sort of forecasting like what might happen, but it's sort
- 1:49:52Speaker 1: of like how you might feel and be for the
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: next year. But you can see why I like it
- 1:49:57Speaker 1: because basically, if you've got Lineman, you just have like
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: a in a good positive attitude about life. I believe
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: if you have that, you know life should be pretty
- 1:50:04Speaker 1: smooth for you because you perceive it as such. That's right.
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: So um, I think we can roll and pour some lead.
- 1:50:13Speaker 1: So quick walk us through the process real quick. Yes, okay,
- 1:50:17Speaker 1: so we that's how we always done it. Um. You
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: basically have a small pot that you usually go to
- 1:50:24Speaker 1: uh thrift store and buy because Once you melt letting it,
- 1:50:27Speaker 1: you're not gonna use it again to cook um noodles
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: for your kids anymore. Um, So you have to have
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: it's simple. You don't need a lot. So you guys
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: ever invested in one of those lead like my old
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: man had one of those lead melting it looks like
- 1:50:45Speaker 1: a bull scrolled them with a spout. No, I don't.
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: I don't know if they gets sophisticated about it. I
- 1:50:51Speaker 1: don't know if you'd like to have a spout, because
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: that might like trip up the actual throne kind of
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: like dictate your future. That's right, okay, go on. Um So, yeah,
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: some fishing sinkers is what we buy, and you need
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: a bucket, um. But then you can also just do
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: it like in your sink um, just fill it up
- 1:51:09Speaker 1: with cold water. I think if you had a minimum
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: of six inches, that's probably enough so that by the
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: time it hit the bottom, it's not gonna, you know,
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: adhere to the steel. Um. Then so yeah, small pot
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: and a way to heat it up and melt the lead.
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: That's it. And so once you have a pot and
- 1:51:25Speaker 1: I'm trying to think how much we're gonna it's been
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: a few years since I've done it. But I'm guessing
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: like a two or three ounce fishing sinker or that
- 1:51:31Speaker 1: amount is gonna be enough to produce a nice uh
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: pour of lead. Yeah, you don't want to predict too
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: much your future. No, I mean we're just trying to
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: do one year. You get about a year per ounce. Yeah,
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: um so yeah, once you haven't melted in the pot,
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: hover over the bucket of cold water, and then quickly
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: in one motion, spill it into there. Throw it into there,
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: pour it into there, and then it immediately it makes
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: kind of a loud popping noise and it immediately solidifies
- 1:52:03Speaker 1: and you pick it up out of there, and the
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: fun starts. And you guys like to throw the shadow
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: with a candle or a flashlight candle for sure, because
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: then you get the movement of the flame. It makes
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: it dance, be dancing all here. Mm hmmm. I hope
- 1:52:19Speaker 1: we throw marks and it's a giant white till it
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: might be like Margot think he's gonna get a big one,
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: but he doesn't realize that he's just gonna get stomped
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: to death by one. Oh, you're like any minute out
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: chewing on gold while stomping on my head. It might
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: be a whole herd, a big giant buck. Yeah, when
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: you see a big buck, don't get excited because you're
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: not gonna know what it means. Man steering clear the
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: back for you next year. I know better to go
- 1:52:45Speaker 1: out there. I saw my lead, all right, let's go
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: for some lead. Blador on a piece of lead inside
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: a little tin looking pot. The leads Milton and starting
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: to run down to the bottom. It looks like, uh,
- 1:53:15Speaker 1: that's smarts Anagar movie Terminator two, the guy that gets shot.
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: But then he was like, yeah, it gets back up again.
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: Does it looks like this the second terminators in there?
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: How is it like all liquid fide now and you're
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: just gonna ducking that's a lot of futures. Oh that
- 1:53:40Speaker 1: came a good Yeah, here, I'll get another one going
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: and pull yours out. This does not look like a
- 1:53:46Speaker 1: festive holiday thing to Steve and his respirator. What's gonna
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: happen to the picture doesn't come completely as the shadow? Right,
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: you can do both. You can do both. I don't
- 1:54:05Speaker 1: any going to it and Taper who's doing the next one?
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: It's a real satisfying noise is gonna goes in for pot,
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: fight me off, you want to do any like one?
- 1:54:16Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, oh, that's absolutely a thing block that
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: Mark's future. Alright, so we are we've poured the lad
- 1:54:40Speaker 1: and now correct me if I'm wrong, honest, But we
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: are examining the lead through by looking at its shadow
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: that it casts on the wall with a candle as
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: the light. And now we interpret what the lead shape
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: means for Mark's future. I like to remind everybody that
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: remember how saying how lineman is like the easiest way
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: to translate it is happiness. So this isn't this is
- 1:55:07Speaker 1: your future in a very fun and positive way. I
- 1:55:11Speaker 1: see like an olive branch, bonds eye tree, an olive
- 1:55:15Speaker 1: branch like peace. Oh then backpacker, backpacker looking back Mark
- 1:55:23Speaker 1: will go backpacking. Maybe he's got something he's maybe it's
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: Mark in a backpack. He's singing about public lands. You
- 1:55:31Speaker 1: see something very dark. I see a very arthritic hand
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: with an arthritic hand with a growth. A man with
- 1:55:43Speaker 1: a knife sticking out of his chest. So when you
- 1:55:46Speaker 1: see uh, cancer and knives and chests and whatnot, those
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: thoughts you just need to throw out of your head.
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: With all due respect, man, these crazy ass lavia lead
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: shapes do not look positive. I think you seem to
- 1:56:01Speaker 1: get have a better imagination. But see there's that arthritic
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: hand again. Steve Bringers over here, I see old lady,
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: an old monk with arthritic arms. The un Anthony, Come on,
- 1:56:19Speaker 1: Anthony's future is in disarray. See a lot of disorder
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: with a fire ant biting the guy in the back.
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: There's it's an old arthritic worm. Let's think about Kel's
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: problem is that his future is greatly segmented, shattered, almost
- 1:56:43Speaker 1: a shattered future, some might say. Some might say, it's
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: let's start to put a little more positive Anthony. Maybe
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: he doesn't have a shattered future. Maybe he has a
- 1:56:54Speaker 1: diverse and diversified uh dropping my future around the ground chat.
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: Maybe his future shattered in many ways. It was up there, Karin,
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: what are you feeling? No, it kind of looks like
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: a dinosaur. Well that was a long time ago. That's
- 1:57:10Speaker 1: not the future. It's a totally the wrong way. She
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: might find some next year. Oh yeah, I wasn't looking
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: at the bright side. Old lady, big head, You're gonna
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: be a big headed old lady this year. It's gonna
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: be a year that just means you're getting smarter, Karan
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: just means your brains getting bigger, an arthritic old. Remember,
- 1:57:38Speaker 1: as I was saying again, this will be the third
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: time I remind you guys that Lima is happiness and
- 1:57:44Speaker 1: we're forecasting are happy future positives positive? Oh she strangled
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: the turtle. Come here and Steve will tell your fortune.
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're seeing worm get squished and
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: get all dried out on the sidewalk, like old dried
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: out fishing bait. I think it looks like a plant
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: under the ground growing. No, no, yeahld excited. I'm excited, hopefully.
- 1:58:21Speaker 1: It looks like someone figuring out the ventilation in the studio. Okay,
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: it looks like an arthritical which his finger it does.
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: This is a good game. Oh my gosh, you're growing
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: your mustache back. Look at out this future. It's like
- 1:58:45Speaker 1: Phil got a bad scar on his lip and it
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: killed the hair growth. Then he grew a mustache. Do
- 1:58:51Speaker 1: you have time for me to go to Yea, The
- 1:58:54Speaker 1: eagles gotta go. He is his deal man. Wouldn't be funny.
- 1:58:57Speaker 1: We didn't let you go. Oh it's a man carrying
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: another body over his shoulder, said Steve. Steve. It's like
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: kind of dried out carcass am. I carrying Steve up
- 1:59:13Speaker 1: a mountain or down about or just carrying him a metaphorically,
- 1:59:20Speaker 1: you carry Steve into the future. Okay, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:59:25Speaker 1: There concludes the Special Holidays Special first annual to Me
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: Eater podcast. I want everyone out there to know that
- 1:59:33Speaker 1: we love him to death. Old painful arthritick death notice.
- 1:59:40Speaker 1: We just love him to death. Thank you very much
- 1:59:42Speaker 1: for joining us. Tune in next holiday season for the
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