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1-14-26 Hour 1 - Jokic-less Nuggets beat NOLA/Sean Payton vs Luca Evans AGAIN/What to do with Watson? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 5: You know, sometimes when somebody is right on the edge
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  Speaker 5: lips tightly, kind of like the face Peyton Manning used
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  Speaker 5: to make the disappointed face. Yeah, Brett was just making
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  Speaker 5: that face the whole time that come on, keep it inside,
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  Speaker 5: keep it inside.
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  Speaker 4: Well it's mojun vic for three hours, so uh buckle up,
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  Speaker 4: because no idea where this show is gonna go.
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  Speaker 3: But that's I'm gonna be sucking. I'm gonna be I'm
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay, I.
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  Speaker 3: Got a recalla right here. I'm up and down all
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  Speaker 3: night with Ricola's. Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in Dallas, Texas, where the Nuggets are going to
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  Speaker 4: tip off tonight, second game of a back to back.
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  Speaker 4: Last night, they won in clutch time again for the
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  Speaker 4: fifth time in six games. They're now five and one
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  Speaker 4: in clutch games without Nikoliokic. They're now five and three
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  Speaker 4: without Nikolaiokicic. I don't know what the hell is going on,
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  Speaker 4: but this team continues to win and out. Granted, the
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  Speaker 4: New Orleans Pelicans are not good. They're not good. They're
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  Speaker 4: a nine win team in the West. Okay, it seems like.
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  Speaker 3: They should be better than they are, but they're not.
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  Speaker 3: They seem to me like they should be. They're a
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  Speaker 3: nine win team. It feels like they should be maybe
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  Speaker 3: a seventeen win team or an eight.
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  Speaker 2: They should team, but they just don't.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the pieces don't come together, and the Nuggets
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  Speaker 4: found away again last night. Keep it close, keep it close.
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen a game motion In fact, this has
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  Speaker 4: not happened in almost twenty years for the Nuggets where
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  Speaker 4: they get out rebounded. All right, the rebounding totals last night,
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  Speaker 4: New Orleans had fifty rebounds the Nuggets. I'm sorry New
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  Speaker 4: Orleans had. Where's that total of rebounds here? New Orleans
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  Speaker 4: out rebounded the Nuggets by seventeen rebounds. Seventeen fifty to
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  Speaker 4: thirty three, and I had fifty one to thirty two either,
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  Speaker 4: what I had it ten nineteen, seventeen nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: What's the difference.
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  Speaker 4: It's the biggest disparity in rebound that the Nuggets have
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  Speaker 4: faced with a win in almost twenty years. The fact
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  Speaker 4: that they won that game, besides not being able to
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  Speaker 4: pull down a rebound, is amazing to me, and it
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  Speaker 4: just speaks to how clutch they have been. It speaks
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  Speaker 4: to the development of Dayton Watson, who again last night
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  Speaker 4: raining Player of the Week in the Western Conference, goes
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  Speaker 4: for thirty one points, seven rebounds, five assists. Jamal Murray
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  Speaker 4: coming off illness, same illness that just sent Brett Caine home,
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  Speaker 4: he comes in with thirty five points, nine assists, and
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  Speaker 4: I thought his best play. I don't know how closely
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  Speaker 4: you watched that game last night, most but it was
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  Speaker 4: a two point game late and he finds ag under
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  Speaker 4: the rim just drills a one handed pass.
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  Speaker 2: Which was so beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: So stew watched it, Yeah, I watched it was pretty closely, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that kind of play, that kind of winning
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  Speaker 4: play where you don't have to shoot it, you just
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  Speaker 4: have to make a play.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Jamal Murray's done this year.
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  Speaker 3: And he got away with one right before that where
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  Speaker 3: he got stuck at the shot clog and threw up
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  Speaker 3: short of a yeah, I want to see about a
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  Speaker 3: seventeen foot prayer kind of but nothing. I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: was a total swish. But I'm saying he got kind
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  Speaker 3: of stuck right and there was nobody around him, so
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  Speaker 3: we is kind of I don't look it was. It
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  Speaker 3: was a funky looking play, but that's listen. When when
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  Speaker 3: it's going your way, it's going your way.
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  Speaker 2: I want I want people to be aware of something and.
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  Speaker 3: On that on that particular play, he knocked it in.
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  Speaker 3: It was great and great to see.
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  Speaker 2: So four guys did not make the trip.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Yonas valenschunis who I do believe with that calf strain. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: he may miss the entire month. We'll see Cam Johnson
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  Speaker 4: he did not make the trip. I think Cam Johnson
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  Speaker 4: is close to returning again. Nothing official. I just the
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  Speaker 4: sense I get, and he's very close. He's been shooting around,
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  Speaker 4: he's back home rehabbing. I would not be surprised one
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  Speaker 4: bit if Cam Johnson is back next week. Christian Brown
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  Speaker 4: is rehabbing and recovering again with that ankle which is
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  Speaker 4: giving him fits. Uh, he just doesn't feel right, so
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  Speaker 4: they want to make sure it feels right before he
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  Speaker 4: tries to do this again. And nikoley okicch, what did
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  Speaker 4: I tell you about Nikola Jokic when he first went down.
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  Speaker 4: I said, if there's anyone who will beat the deadline
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  Speaker 4: back on the court, it's a guy like Nikolaiokicic. And
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  Speaker 4: I again, no inside information here, none, but I would
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  Speaker 4: not be surprised one bit if he is back long
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  Speaker 4: before that four to six week mark that everybody gave us.
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  Speaker 3: He's now say he's the he's the anti moj He's
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  Speaker 3: a fast healer.
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  Speaker 4: He is a very fast healer. And how many weeks
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  Speaker 4: has it been for nikoliokicch?
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  Speaker 3: Two?
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  Speaker 2: Two weeks?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 4: I think we're going on to two and a half.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Just be on the lookout, It's all I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to tell you. Be on the lookout for niccoliok.
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  Speaker 3: No, he do is a favorite. Just be on the lookout.
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  Speaker 3: Have your scouts out, Okay, be on the lookout for
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  Speaker 3: Joker just in case. All right, But what I want
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  Speaker 3: to tell you you'll be back to see be real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on a second, bet, just because you're driving the
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  Speaker 3: show today doesn't mean you can just run rough shot
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  Speaker 3: over everybody.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I apologize. I forgot that I have to
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  Speaker 4: let other people talk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, with Christian Brown, it seems to me
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  Speaker 3: it's probably a natural thing when you have your first
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  Speaker 3: real injury, not a ding, not a bang, not a bruise,
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  Speaker 3: not a whatever, but your first real real injury, right,
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna keep you out for extended period of time.
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  Speaker 3: It would seem to me that anything you do on
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  Speaker 3: the comeback trail is going to feel weird at first,
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  Speaker 3: like and again it's that brain process. Vic, where can
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  Speaker 3: you trust that ankle again? And I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying it doesn't feel weird to him or something doesn't
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  Speaker 3: feel exactly right, but I'm saying, you know, the brain
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  Speaker 3: can also figure into that. You know. I remember again,
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  Speaker 3: I'll relay the story. This is almost thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking to Lafonzo Wella's coming back from that knee injury.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, look physically and I'm fine, He goes,
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  Speaker 3: but the but you have to tell your brain that
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  Speaker 3: you're your brain. You know has to know that you're
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  Speaker 3: fine too. To become a player again, you've got to
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  Speaker 3: you've got to be able to think all that way.
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  Speaker 3: So that may be a little bit of a factor
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  Speaker 3: with CB, but either way, he's gonna be fine again.
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  Speaker 4: He's never suffered a major injury ever in his life,
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  Speaker 4: so mentally he does not know what to do with this.
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  Speaker 4: Same goes for Nikolai jokicch By the way, Nikolai Jokicic
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  Speaker 4: has never had an injury like the one he's going
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  Speaker 4: through right now with his knee. He was very scared
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  Speaker 4: at the time when it happened, and I think the
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  Speaker 4: fear is what caused the reaction, and the reaction is
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  Speaker 4: what's scared the hell out of all of us watching
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  Speaker 4: from home is him on the ground. But as I
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  Speaker 4: think will happen, I think he's gonna come back sooner
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  Speaker 4: than we expect, and it's gonna be a couple a
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  Speaker 4: couple of games before he feels normal because that fear factor,
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  Speaker 4: MOJ is what they're battling, both CB and Joker. Now,
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  Speaker 4: a guy like Cam Johnson, he's gone through several injuries,
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  Speaker 4: he's been through it already. Frame it's a little different,
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  Speaker 4: which leads to another question. Nuggets fans, we got a problem,
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  Speaker 4: mos We got a problem right now. It's a good problem,
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  Speaker 4: but we have a problem. This is a Denver team
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  Speaker 4: that's now. If you look at the standings without Nikoliokicic,
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  Speaker 4: everything was supposed to go south right, Oh, just tread water.
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  Speaker 4: They got the second best record in the Western Conference
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  Speaker 4: and they've done it without Nicola. They're twenty seven and thirteen,
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  Speaker 4: tied with the San Antonio Spurs. We thought at this
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  Speaker 4: point they'd be hovering around the playing Remember remember what
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  Speaker 4: everybody was saying.
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  Speaker 3: I said, they're gonna drop. Yeah, this was my prediction.
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  Speaker 3: I guess. I'm glad I'm wrong. I said, excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: I said that, I'm guessing they're gonna drop to at
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  Speaker 3: least six, and then you know, will will they will
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  Speaker 3: they drop below that? I don't know, but I thought
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  Speaker 3: for sure that six was on the table, and it
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  Speaker 3: just they've impressed me.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, they've impressed everyone because the teams around them have
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  Speaker 4: also struggled.
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  Speaker 2: San Antonio.
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  Speaker 4: In the last ten games, four and six, the Lakers,
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  Speaker 4: five and five, the Rockets have played ummetted. They've won
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  Speaker 4: six out of ten, but they've plummeted. Now they're in
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  Speaker 4: the sixth seed. Right behind the Nuggets are the t Wolves.
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  Speaker 4: They've won seven of the ten and again this year,
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  Speaker 4: top teams in the West are teams from the Nuggets Division,
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  Speaker 4: the Northwest Division. They're the top teams. But the dilemma
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  Speaker 4: of the Nuggets face right now, Mark Motion, I want
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  Speaker 4: to ask you what the hell are they going to do?
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  Speaker 4: They got a player who is developing in light speed
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  Speaker 4: right before our eyes, Peyton Watson, who went from little
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  Speaker 4: U sub to huh, you know, he's got some stuff.
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  Speaker 4: He can play little defense, he's long to oh my god,
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  Speaker 4: player of the week to where would they be without
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  Speaker 4: Peyton Watson in his mid range game because he's developed
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  Speaker 4: something in the mid range. Last night again thirty one points,
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  Speaker 4: seven rebounds, five assists. He hit the go ahead shot
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  Speaker 4: with fourteen seconds left. They were tied, and it was
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  Speaker 4: a mid range J. And I'm sitting there going that's
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  Speaker 4: a shot he did not have in his back pocket
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  Speaker 4: before this season.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't have it.
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  Speaker 3: And he's the only one, am I the only one
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  Speaker 3: who likes the mid range J. You know when I
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  Speaker 3: talk about my drop steps on the baseline in my
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  Speaker 3: mid range jumpers and that sort of thing. People. Oh, guy,
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  Speaker 3: it's not the game today. Well, I know it's not.
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  Speaker 3: But it can be effective. Yeah, it can be effective.
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  Speaker 3: You know. It's like it's just I love a good
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  Speaker 3: mid range j I just do. And to watch Peyton
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  Speaker 3: wats and develop that game is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Well, not only develop it, but do it in real time.
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  Speaker 4: He's not doing it behind the scenes. He's doing it
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  Speaker 4: right in front of us. He's doing it in crunch time.
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  Speaker 4: He's doing in key games. He's unafraid. And what it's
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  Speaker 4: doing is this. And this is the dilemma right now,
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  Speaker 4: the Nuggets fans, you gotta face this and say, what
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  Speaker 4: do you do? This guy is in the final contract.
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  Speaker 4: Get the apron, Get in the apron. No, forget get
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  Speaker 4: the apron. Forget the apron. Right, it's not our money. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: you don't want to spend all the money. It's not
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  Speaker 4: our money. I would want them to keep everybody. Forget
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  Speaker 4: the apron, forget the contract status, forget next year. I'm
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  Speaker 4: talking about this year. I'm talking about this year. How
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  Speaker 4: do you take this guy off the court? What do
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  Speaker 4: you do when everybody's healthy again? I need somebody to
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  Speaker 4: explain to me, when Cam Johnson is healthy again, when
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  Speaker 4: CB's healthy again, what do you do with Peyton Watson's minutes?
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  Speaker 4: Because this guy has exploded onto the scene. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how you minimize his minutes right now.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to have to keep him as well, Vic,
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to figure out a way to
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  Speaker 3: do that. That's why Ben and John are probably working
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  Speaker 3: overtime right now. But he's become a major factor. And
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  Speaker 3: I love to see it too, because even if he's
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  Speaker 3: relegated to the bench, imagine the confidence and the kind
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  Speaker 3: of spark he's gonna be bringing off that bench. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets have a lot of things going for them
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  Speaker 3: right this very second. Now come you know, come June
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  Speaker 3: and July, that may be a bit of a tougher thing,
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  Speaker 3: but right now they've got going.
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  Speaker 4: But do you want to remove minutes from his his
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  Speaker 4: game blog? I mean, this is a serious question if
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  Speaker 4: this team wants to reach its potential.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, and I get it. I get it.
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  Speaker 4: The starting five that started the season, the starting five
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  Speaker 4: that played the first few games of the season, By
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  Speaker 4: the way, that's starting five, Nikola Jokic, Cam Johnson, Jamal Murray,
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown eight and two.
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  Speaker 2: They win eighty percent of their games. And that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's all. They've only played ten games together, the starting five.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. It started in two.
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  Speaker 3: What are you saying you're gonna play You're gonna play
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  Speaker 3: who as you play him over?
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  Speaker 4: What I'm asking you is, what do you do? Do
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  Speaker 4: you still keep him as a super sub? How do
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  Speaker 4: you give him the minutes he deserves right now to shine?
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  Speaker 4: Because I am not exaggerating, and I think those of
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  Speaker 4: you watching the game he is carrying. He and Jamal
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  Speaker 4: Murray are helping carry this team through the non yoke
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  Speaker 4: joker min it's non joker games. Nobody expected this. It's
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  Speaker 4: one thing to shine alongside Nicole Jokic. Everybody does that.
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  Speaker 4: It's another thing to do it when he's not on
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  Speaker 4: the court.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Well, while people ponder that question, while people
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  Speaker 3: are thinking about that in their brains, I got to
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  Speaker 3: get you to address Sean Payton from yesterday. We need
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  Speaker 3: to talk about Sean Payton in the preparation for this
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  Speaker 3: game against the Buffalo Bills. And I want to play
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  Speaker 3: to you, Vic and everybody else. Another interaction with little
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  Speaker 3: Luca that went sideways yesterday, and uh, I gotta get
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts on it. I've got to see how you
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  Speaker 3: feel great, because because I'm not really sure that this guy,
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  Speaker 3: this guy's in this guy's guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's intense right now, Peyton, you could tell it's a
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  Speaker 4: playoff week because.
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  Speaker 2: He's wound up. He is wound up.
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  Speaker 4: And I know the SoundBite that you're gonna hear. It's
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  Speaker 4: hilarious to me. I was laughing, and I think most
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  Speaker 4: members of the media who cover Sean Payton on a
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  Speaker 4: consistent basis.
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  Speaker 2: All you can do is laugh at this stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have coach Bednar today?
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  Speaker 4: We do eight o'clock right, yes, so eight am for
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  Speaker 4: coach Betsy uh our home probably what.
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  Speaker 3: I know, they're different personalities, But I want you when
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  Speaker 3: we come back and we play this, I want you
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  Speaker 3: to contrast that to coach Bednar. Would you would you
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  Speaker 3: do that? Well?
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  Speaker 4: I could do that, but I mean that those are
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  Speaker 4: two different human beings and they're both effective in their
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  Speaker 4: own right. Listen, I'm not gonna sit here on a
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  Speaker 4: game week and we all know that Sehn Peyton can
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  Speaker 4: be very abrasive in a curmudgeon and we know this,
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  Speaker 4: and we know that Dared Bettnar is the opposite of that.
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  Speaker 4: But their their own coaches, their own styles, their own ways,
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  Speaker 4: and they're both effective. I mean, listen, I want people
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  Speaker 4: to be nice to me like you do. But not
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  Speaker 4: everybody's the same, Not everybody's wired the same.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's your Vicky, are totally correct, and I think
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton has one interesting son of a gun. But
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  Speaker 3: there has to be a bit of humanity in there too, somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: I know that there's.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta be okay, all right, we'll get into that. I've
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  Speaker 4: got some cool stuff that I would like to run.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I interviewed, of all people at the game last night,
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  Speaker 4: Michael Porter Junior was there because the Brooklyn Nets are
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  Speaker 4: in town and they played the Pelicans tonight, so he
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  Speaker 4: had a night off. He decided to go watch his
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: buds and he was there tapping them up after the game,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: and he had some interesting stuff to say. I got
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: a chance to sit down with Peyton Watson about his growth.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: We'll hear from him, We'll hear from some of the Broncos.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Drake Greenlaw's back at practice, a development of one starting
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: player who will not be back for the playoff run,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: which sucks, but it is a playoff week. It's game
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: day for the Nuggets there in Dallas, tonight's second game
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: of a back to back. We've got Jared bednar At
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: did you say?
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Eight?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Am? Eight? Yep?
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Eight?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Good, You're so terrible this. You're just you haven't done
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: this in forever.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Well, dude, you're just.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I just found out ten minutes ago that that caner
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: wasn't going to be with us.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll tell you what we're gonna do next segment.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: You drive the show. When we get back, Mark drives
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Green longback of this game is ability to attack down
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: hill and in the run game is how big is that?
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: The timing of it?
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: Do you want him to attack downhill? Is that you're like,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: what do you know about attacking downhill in the run game?
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: You don't know? All right, that's right, have him attacking downhill.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: It's good to have a healthy Trey Greenlaw back in
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: the game.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: This is a hell of a pool by Nelly.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Dude, I've been watching Stranger Things.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: My wife's got me on it, and I hate it,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: and yet I can't stop watching it. I think in
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: the world, and yet I want it is it's so dumb,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: and yet I'm watching it.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my kid was home and she convinced she watched
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: episode one with with we had never seen it. So
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: now the Bear and I are watching it. We're in
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: season two, and I don't I don't want to get it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: But this is a hell of a pool because this
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: is Kate Bush, dude from the eighties. This is a
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: hell of a pole. You know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: That's the only reason I'm watching it. Motion is because
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: of the all the eighties music's.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Because of Kate Bus. Okay, not a lot of people
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: know about Kate Bush, but that's a hell of a pole. Nelly,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: good job. Hey, it's Mochel, Lombardi and Kane coach Bedner
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: coming up at the top of the hour. At eight,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Brett's out barfing out of his ford, probably all the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: way back home, That's what I'm guessing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: He's pulling over the change color last.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. Hey. By the way, if you want
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: to be at the first Broncos home playoff game in
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: a decade on Saturday, starts your weekend off right with
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Nate and Andy at Jackson's. Will be there. Live for
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a special bud Light Football Friday show starting at three pm.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: It's his Friday and giving away tickets to the Broncos
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: and the Bill, so we'll see you with Jackson's coming
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: up on Friday. That's the comedy of Sean Payton again
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: getting getting under the skin of or maybe he's not,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: but trying to get under the skin of one Luca
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Evans now Peyton to me, and I've said this a
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: billion times, is a fascinating look into the mind of
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: a coach for a number of different reasons, because his
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: self awareness and his self admission of he knows that
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: he can be that guy, and he likes being that guy.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: But sometimes he doesn't like being that guy.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Who's who's when you say that guy, what do you mean?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: The guy? The guy who is obsessive and in biting
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and so this kind of thing. He think he likes
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: driving around the sushi parking lot for an hour thinking
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: of a game that he won. I mean, he's and
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys are wired this way.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Wound up is the word wound up, the phrase wound.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Up being said. No, See, that's the thing is I
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: don't think that he well, he clearly doesn't care how
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: the public perceives him. Clearly doesn't care, and that's probably
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: a good thing too. Why should he? Right, he's making
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: eighteen Prairie, He's got his team as the number one seed,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Think he's already accomplished more than most people would.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Have hat no doubt about it. Ain't no doubt about it.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: But I would think that Vic that that at least
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: a little I don't know, bedside manor has to be
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Somewhere, little diplomacy every once in a while.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think David Adaman ever gets a question
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: from a reporter that he could if he wanted to
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: beat that reporter down verbally, he could.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a different story. He's a first time coach.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: You know how it is when when guys are the
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: first at doing things. I mean, anybody, even athletes, when
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: they first come around, they're nice, they're they sort of
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: coward times, and then they get used to it and
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: their attitudes changed. I wonder if was Sean Payton like
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: this when he first became a coach, or did he
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: grow into this because of the Bill Parcells influence or.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, or was he this way when
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: he began his tenure in New Orleans, or did he
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: become this way after he won himself a Bowl. I
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: don't know, because I wasn't around Sean Payton then. I
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: didn't follow those teams. But I've seen his progression over
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the years, and you know, honestly, I like the guy.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I do. I found him to be a complex human.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: And I can also say this, if I was in
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton's shoes and people are throwing out verbiage, you know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: they're throwing out words and vernacular from football and so
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: on and so forth, he ain't got time for that anymore.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: And I probably if it was me and I was
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: in Sean payton shoes and I knew everything that Sean
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Payton knew, I would probably be annoyed as hell as
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: as well, I would probably want to verbally chestise or
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: beat somebody down. And by the way, he's got a
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: special thing now with Lucas, Okay, so he's got to
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: be in his bond. He's got to be in.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeh, the young rider for the Denver Post.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Evan Evan right right, the Evan Evan Evan, Evan Evan.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure that Luca probably hits him every single time,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: you know, the media shows up in front of him.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton is sy in the same faces every single day.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I talked to d Mac about this, and I'm sure
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: he probably gets a little bit annoyed. And at this
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: point all he wants to do is get back with
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: his coaches and his team and coach, Yeah, I know
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: where I'm.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Going with this, most can I can? I stop you
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: real quick before you know where you're going. We're gonna
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: play the sound by. I think this is a bigger
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: deal for those of us in the media than the
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: general public who just wants to wait for the game
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: on Saturday. I don't think the general public cares how
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: a head coach treats our.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Brethren in the media. I don't think they care.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I think they might be off put by at a
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: times they're like, okay, but we seem to care a
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: lot more than they do, and we.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Know that it's not it's not it's not even no,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: it's not even about how he treats Luca or anybody else.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Because again, if I was in Peyton's shoes, I probably
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: want to browbeat some people down too. You get annoyed,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: you get to say the same old faces week after
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: a week, and probably some very silly questions at times,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: or people try to talk higher than their than their
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: experience in the game. Fine, but at the same time,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: it's revealing on who he is as a person. And
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: while it really doesn't bother me that much, I can
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: see us to wear even Broncos fans I heard Broncos
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: fans would think, you know what, our coach is prickly, prickly.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: He's a bit of a prickly you know what I mean.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And so it can be, like you said, it can
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: be off putting. I just I wonder what and that's
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the public relations is his job at all. I just
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: wonder what that dynamic is like. And I'm sure there
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: are plenty of Eagles fans who hate Ciriani. Sure, And
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there are plenty of you know, there are
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: plenty of Niners fans, and Kyle Shanahan rubs them the
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: wrong way, you know what I mean. Who cares as
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: long as you win football games? I really don't care.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: But I'm just he's not doing himself any favors.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Well, you won't get the benefit of the doubt from
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: those of us in this business, and perhaps some of
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the fan base if things go awry, But if things
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: go the way they've gone, who cares. He's winning more
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: and more games every year. He's succeeding every year. Again,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hold that against him until you really
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: have to. Let's just go ahead and get to the SoundBite.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: This is his exchange yesterday with Luca Evans. When I
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: think Luca was asking about Drake Greenlaw. His availability is
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: coming off a hamstring and drain Drake Greenlaw practiced.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: It looks like he's good to go. Great news.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: And this is how that Q and A went Greenlawn
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: back to this game. His ability to attack down hill
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: in the run games? How big is that? The timing
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: of it this one.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: If you want him to attack downhill is that you're like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: what do you know about attacking downhill in the run game?
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: You don't know? All right?
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: That's right, have him attacking downhill. It's good to have
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: a healthy Drey Greenlaw back in the game.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: You hold your head up, all right. I'm going to
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: use that from now on. By the way, I'm gonna
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: what do you know asked? Okay, I mean you could
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: ask me anything that I have. I have good knowledge
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: of I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick it to you.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: What do you What do you know about Van Halen's
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: first album? You know what I mean that that kind
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: of thing. Now, if I got it, if I went
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: into Nelly Steve please join the program, and I said, look,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: you know, with the third valve on your right hand
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: on the saxophone, if you want that to get unsticking,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and Nelly and Nelly could say to me.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: What what do you know about valves on a saxophone?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Most? Yeah, what do you know about valves? And you're
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: talking valves.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Hands on a saxophone?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: If you're asking me about the leshim Miguel or Italy,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: you know, I could respond, also, well, what do you
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: know about Leshimika? What do you know about that play?
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: You've been there a couple of times?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: You don't know? Crap? I mean, guys, do okay?
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: You know, if Jared Bednar joins us at eight o'clock
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: and I say, coach, are you better off just you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: chipping the puck into the zone on the power play
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: rather than carry?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: What if he were to respond, what you.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Ever had skates on punk?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: What do you know about dump?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: But See. That's the thing is you can have Yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: you could have some Here's what you could if somebody said, hey, coach,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you know that neutral zone trap last night? You know
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: your guys were having a tough time fighting through it, right,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, and you had to reload a couple of
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: times you didn't like the whatever. You know how many
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: times Jared Bennar could have gotten up and said, what
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: do you know about a neutral zone trap? You know
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: what I mean? What what do you what do you
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: know about where to dump the pucket? And and you
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: know how the the F three works in that situation?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: What what do you know? You know what you're saying?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: When when you're when, when you're right? D pitches down
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: the boards. Who's response? He could he could absolutely do that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And I can tell you this. He's had short answers before,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: but he's never, as far as I can remember, ever
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: tuned anyone up.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: He's never disrespected a reporter for the question.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Asked that's right, and I shared some dumb ones. Okay,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: so what you're saying some great ones? Why why does
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton have to go there? Why does he have
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: to do that? And and I guess my reaction is.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I think it's funny.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's it's more indicative of I'm not saying
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: it's an insecurity on his part.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: It's not insecurity. He is the most.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Secure person, borderline arrogant, which is fine, and you know what,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I I'm fine with it. Hell, that's more my personality.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I just think that it's such a critical week. He
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: is so intense this week that anything will set him off. Anything,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: and that's one. I mean, just something like that sets
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: him up. Something so ridiculous like that a linebacker coming
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: downhill set him off.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: The exact same question is asked by Well, I don't know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Steve Atwater or Kay Adams or Kay Adams, yeah, or
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: even Mike or even Mike Cliss. Okay, I'm just talking
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: about somebody who's who's played. Let's talk about somebody who's
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: played the game. You know, if Dave Logan asked that
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: question to.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Him, he would never respond that way.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: Your little internet shows are driving me crazy.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It's not the question, it's the question asker. That's what
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: it is. Okay, it's not the question at all.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So you think that's fair.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I I don't. I don't care who asked the question.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I mean why, Why does that make it right? Are
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: you saying that makes it right?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: What do you mean? What makes what right? Clarify?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that it's okay for him to treat people?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: No, but I'm saying that's the part of the dynamic
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: that is at play here. Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: very If Steve at Water asked that same question, you're
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: gonna get a kick ass answer about Dray green Law
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: and you're not gonna in Andy because he's not gonna
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: say what do you know about? You know? Linebacker's playing
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: down hit me running downhill? You know what I mean?
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's just.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Put a cap on this. Sean Payton's a jerk. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: don't care.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Hey, mos, have you ever been called a jerk? I
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: know I have on this very show. But people really
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: don't know you behind the scenes. They don't know you
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: behind the mic, they don't know you with your family,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: they don't know you personally. I oh Sean Payton personally,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I've socialized with him. I don't know anything about him.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I know that when he's got his ball cap on
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and he's a coach, he's a jerk to a lot
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: of people in our business. But you know what, in
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: that locker room you talk to the players. They fear him, Yes,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: they hear him, but they love him, they do, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: he's a player's coach.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: He probably is. That's great. Look, man, I got a
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: little anecdote story about somebody called me a jerk one time.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: It's kind of funny. In my younger broadcasting days. Well,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: with the Avalanche, we were getting out of the bus
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: in Philadelphia heading into the hotel and somebody asked me
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to come over and sign his shirt. Every bonas come
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: overside that. I thought they were joking, right because all
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: the players had done that and blah blah blah blah blah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes, why would
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: be a jerk? I'm like, oh man, this is got
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: like an Avalanche fan outside the and I'm like, I'm
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: not trying to be man, I just I can't. You know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: are you sure you want me to mess up your jersey?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: But I so I went over there and did it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to be a jerk, but you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: but I care about if people think I'm a jerk.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: It's kind of well in some regards, but you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: like Steve from Hyland's ranch. You you know who's a
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Dallas Stores fan who calls me a jerk? I don't care. Yeah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I don't care about that, But I don't know. You're
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the fate. You're you're the head coach of this franchise,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: and uh, I don't know. I just the public perception
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: is it's going to be split on this guy. Ain't
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: no doubt about it if it's not already.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Text line. Everybody responds differently to stuff like that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Vic.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: If Sean did that to you, you would crap your
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: pants and be crying on air about it for weeks.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Most care to respond on what would happen if you
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: did that to me?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Uh, We've all had it done to us.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: We've all been we've all been talked to. I was
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: tuned up by Mike Shannan, Buddy Ryan there. I've told
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the story. If you haven't been in this business long enough,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: if you haven't been tuned up Texter, Peter, that's correct, Peter,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: And yeah, been in this business, if you haven't been
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: tuned up by a coach or a player, it's part
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: of the job.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Mike Shanahan had no to I'm for a snut. The
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: young snot nose Moje back in the I know, in
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: late nineties or whatever it was, and he tuned me
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: up one time on my own show, and I'm like,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I probably deserve that, you know, I probably did. And
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: so it's just part of the business. It's no, it's
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: no big deal. It's no in the grand scheme of things,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: it's no big deal. I'd rather talk.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: About spent ten minutes talking about it, I.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Know, but I'd rather agree. But I mean I because
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's out there and it has to be addressed.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I'd rather talk about the upcoming game and what we're
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: going to see and potential you know, guys in and
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: out of the lineup. And you mentioned it a little
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: bit earlier too, that you got some news about about
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: the postseason run here about guys who can and cannot
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: be back.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: All right, we only got a minute left in this segment.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Since we're on the.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Topic, so why do we well, no, no, I your
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: list of coaches. I want to know now that we're
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: on the topic coaches, because not every coaching like Gary
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Kubiak was a nice man, just a nice human being,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: nice guy. He could he could get mad at times
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: that he would never sure, obliterate somebody publicly, he just
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: wouldn't do it. He won a Super Bowl. Mike Shanahan
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: got snappy at times, but very nice man, a nice, very.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Goodness. I'll ask you. I mean, who are.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Some of the toughest, sternest, just those coaches who you
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: couldn't get to, who were just rough around the edges
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: that came through town. I would currently rank Sean Payton
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: number one on my list of all and again this
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: is not an indictment on who he is as a person,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: just how he treats people in these circumstances. Josh McDaniels
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: was close behind number two. I think now maybe he
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: treats people overall period. Who else do you have on
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: your list any any of the aspects? How was Hartley
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: back in the day?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Bob was? Bob was fine. Mark Crawford could be abrasive
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and prickly. It's funny if you bring some of those
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: things up from let's say twenty seven years ago, twenty
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: eight years ago, Crow would be like, no, I didn't
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: say that, Well, yeah you did, no no idea. No.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I was just they're in a different world.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Right exactly. I mean, because they're the nicest guys in
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: the world, right, But like, and I'm like, you remember
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: that time. He's like no, I'm like yeah, He's like no, Yeah,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: funny stuff, man.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Really funny Dan, It's funny. I told Dan Issel this.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I just did to sit down with Dan and.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Today's I was, yeah, I was working with this, so
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: go ahead, go ahead.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: And I remember asking him a question when he was coaching,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: and he went off on me, saying, how about you
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: let somebody else ask questions?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, there's nobody.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Else here, so yeah, And I and I relay that
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: story years later. And it's funny because again, coaches are
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: in their element. Coaches have high anxiety. It's game week,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: it's game day.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I get it. It's part of the job.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: You're gonna love this is we get the break here
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: more On the other side, we'll talk about the Broncos
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: injuries and who can againnot come back. But there was
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: a time and I'd worked with Dan at the old Joint, right,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: we were together and I'm there for morning skate or
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: morning skate, listen to me shoot around and they're playing
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: the Clippers, And I asked him a question about Keith class.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Do you remember Keith class. Yeah, and he looks at
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: me and he goes, Keith class, Why the hell would
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you ask me about class? And this is the guy
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: who's my friend. We worked together, right, and we drake
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: beers to get that kind of thing. And I thought
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: to myself afterwards, he and he tuned me up, and
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I go, I deserve that. I deserve that tuned up.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Ain't no doubt about it. Hey, a lot more still
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: to come here. As I'm driving this segment, DIVIX is
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: sitting in the Dallas to Tell Room with his teeth
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: in his mouth. And we got a lot to talk
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: about with the Broncos and the Buffalo Bills this weekend.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Good news on dre Greenlaw, bad news on others. We'll
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: talk more about that also. Coach Jared Bednar, if you're
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Colorado Avalanche coming up at the top of the already
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: eight o'clock, don't what any where? It's mos Leboardy Kane,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: so kind of him. Thanks, Vic, appreciate that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: What we what's terrible?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: You're You're terrible at this. Hey, don't forget the Nuggets,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: face Cooper Flag and the mav Tonight live in Dallas.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Tune in at seven for pregame coverage powered by Ramo's Law.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Kind of reading those little liners.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could never do that, you know what I mean, Nelly,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: you know what? And I know And look at Steve.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: He's laughing behind King.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: So you're saying, I'm incapable of reading the little liners.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: And that's really Caine's only role on this show is
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: to read those little liners and then get out of.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: The way and provide some comic relief with his red
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: face and red hair.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much, that's vick. I sent you the email too.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: You wanna you wanna give us that same read? See
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: if you can beat Moser? All right, let me see
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: it was that So you're supposed.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: To read This is why. This is why you're not
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: even involved in this, and you shouldn't be involved in
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: don't even know how to find it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: It's the Nuggets pregame coverage brought to you by Ramos
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Law Reid.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, here we go go ahead, Ready give me the music.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's got to feel the same. We're coming
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: out of break Hey, everybody, The Nuggets faced Cooper Flagg
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: and the Mavericks, tod Live in Dallas. Tune in at
• 37:11
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• 37:14
  Speaker 3: You're being such a peytent.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, you really are.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: And by the way, when I'm texting somebody, we've the
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: problem is we've had three different patents in Denver. We've
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: got you know, we got three different patents here, and
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: they all spell their Peytons different. They have four paytents four?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: What other payton am I missing?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Peyton Watson?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, we have Peyton Watson too. You have a Pee
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Watt is different.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Peyton Watson is named after Peyton Manning. His parents literally
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: named him after Peyton Manning. So there's four paytents in those.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's four paytents. My my bad, four paytents, but
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: two are the same. Peyton Watson and Peyton Manning spelled
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: the name the same way. But but John Okay, they
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: spell it different. Hey, Vick. In regards to the injury factor,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: great news on Drake green Law, I mean great, great
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: news when you're talking about that running game and trying
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to slow down Cook. I mean, they average a buck
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: sixty per game. They've torn you up in the past.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: But it's great to have him back on the field.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Is it not great news for Drake Greenlaw?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Bad news?
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: For Brandon Jones, the other safety who will not play
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: again this season. According to Sean Payton, they do not
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: expect him back. Whatever peck issue he had, he messed
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: up his peck muscle, clearly he tore it. So he's
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: out and PJ. Lock will take over for him. But
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: so it's not like they're going to go into the
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: postseason free and clear. They're missing one of those safeties,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: and the communication between a Funga and Brandon Jones you
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: could see that's very important.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: PJ. Lock is gonna have to carry that torch now.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: And I'm also worried when we talk about the running
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: game and at this point, should I'm not even gonna
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: be worried about the running game anymore because they've been
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: winning without and they haven't had to have a you know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: incredibly effective running game, the one you would like, like
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: look at Buffalos and how effective that is and how
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: desirable a running game like that would be. They haven't
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: had to have that to win games. So if JK
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: thinks he's coming back, you know, before February, that would
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: be great. Should the Broncos advance, but I think they
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: are who they are at this point. Vic. I think
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos are. This is this is your football team.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: This is the way they're gonna have to win games.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: And so going out and execute what you do. What
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: you're doing well, period, well, end of story.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: You're looking at the defense, I'm still looking at at
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: the offense and in the center position. Wattenberg is not
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: going to play again this week, and the run game
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: is the chief area of concern for me, and I
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: think that offensive line is it's going to be incumbent
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: on them, and uh, you gotta develop something for those
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: running backs to squeak through.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, have you try. You have to try, But
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you need You don't need a
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: buck fifty on the ground to win. You don't need
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: that because you have to do it without threat you
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: yes it up.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: You know, we can cry about Bronco injuries because every
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: team's got them. The Bronco situation pales in comparison to
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: what Buffalo is going through right now. Buffalo listed fourteen
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: players on their injury report, fourteen including Josh Allen, who's
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: got various foot and knee injuries. But they lost Shavers
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Uh their receiver to an acl Gave Davis is out.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: They've got serious injuries to serious contributors, and they.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Have a little wide out coming back. What's his name
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: the Bills. They have that white out coming back. I'll
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: fight it's a gone it all the heck. I'm thinking, Okay,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Davis is out and that's you know, and again he
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: missed most of the year anyway, but he's been through
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: the past several weeks. They've got it. They've got a
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: guy coming back. They got a figure it out anyway.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel, Yes, do they practiced on Tuesday. I mean,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: what we'll see.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Is he gonna is he gonna make it back?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I'm saying that would be It's not
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: like you're just subtracting a guy. You're perhaps getting another
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: guy back as well, so that you're it's not it's
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: not as hurtful as it would be to another team.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Well, and therein lies the greatness of Josh Allen. The
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: greatness of any great quarterback is that they can make
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: any Tom, Dick and Harry.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Into a substantial receiver.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, look at what he's done already with some
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: of the replacements that have been in there.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Look what he did last week.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: You throw Mark Moser in there and he'll find you.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: He'll make you a competent receiver. And that's what great
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks do. So I obviously it hurts to lose key players,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: but I think he can make do. He's already made.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: He's made done. Want to road playoff game for the
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: first time in forever.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Hey, that's that's a great You have never heard of
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: the past tense of make do? What what is the
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: correct past tense?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Made done?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Made done? That doesn't sound right, but you probably are
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: right in terms of the English language, You're You're probably correct.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: You tell us man made done.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: It may do?
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: So you made done most I didn't take idioms one
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: oh one. Sorry, I don't have that answer for you.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: That's a funny question, though, Vic, that's funny that listen you.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sound right, but you're probably right, and I
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that either way. Look, I mean,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Shakir caught what eleven passes last week or twelve passes?
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: You know he's uh, he's got another guys, Brandon Cooks
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: was involved with a couple of big plays in that game.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, cooks, cooks signs when did
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: he sign?
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Good point. But they also vicing and I mentioned
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: this and we kind of just glossed it over earlier
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: in the week that they've got two tight ends. They're effective. Now.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I know Kincaid's a bit banged up and he's been
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: walking around in the boot, but they say that the
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: boot on Monday for for Kincaid was simply that was
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: simply out of precautionary reasons. Simply a precautionary situation. And
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: they've got Dawson Knox. They've got those two guys can
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: both catch the football. So it's not like you're you're
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: depleting the Buffalo Bills of offensive threats all over the place.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I mean those guys, those guys both play and they
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: both can be effective.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Moji, it's hard to take you seriously right now with
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: your voice.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Let me let me ride a little bit.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I talk, If I talk soccer, then it's not going
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: to pull a Bobby Brady or Peter Brady and crack you.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: A Glory to God, because we got supposed to be
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: in this decision in exactly six minutes. But before we
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: get to coach Betsy, I want to know your reaction
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: when you heard.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: That the great Nolan.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Aronado was being traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks. And he's
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: back in the Rockies Division. The great eight time All
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Star Nolan Aronaudi is back in the division.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I don't know what happened. I
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: guess I'm not close enough to the situation.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Well, I tell you what happened. He waved his no
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: trade clause. He said, I'm good and I'm gonna go
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: to Arizona.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: That's what happened.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Well, No, I thought that he he wanted to get
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: dealt to Saint Louis because he wanted to win. I
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm not mistaken, I remember distinctly saying that, Well,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: you know, these people treat me way better. I want
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: to win. That's why I'm here. I remember those those
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: words coming out of his mouth. Now, I Nelly, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: haven't been keeping up on current events in regards to
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: to the Saint Louis Cardinals, but it doesn't feel like
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: they've done a whole lot of winning with Dolan Arnado there.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Now, the experiment did not go well, but yeah, the
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Cardinals can simply say that's all right.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: We didn't pay his bill anyway. We paid most of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the bill was paid by the Rockies.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Well, some of the bill was paid by the Rockies.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: They paid plenty of bill. Okay, bro they played, they
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: paid plenty of bread to Nolan Arnado. I really don't
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: have I really don't have any feelings about it.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that's trade.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I really don't. I really don't have a take.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: You know how some trades in sports both teams win,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: like Clinton portis for Champ Bailey.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Both teams won in that trade.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, There are some trades where neither team wins,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: and that was one of them.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Neither team won anything.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: You're talking about the Rockies and the Cardinals. Yeah, nobody
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: won Jacks, nobody won squad.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Neither neither time the Rockies lost.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: And the Rockies had to pay fifty million dollars to
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: keep losing them.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: It's it's and the guys and the guys they got.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, where are they now that that's the point.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Neither team won anything out of that trade.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Well, they got the nibbler out of it, did they not?
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: The nibbler was maybe the guy who's been around the longest,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: stayed around the longest.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I mean he gave you a little you're right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, Jesus, I don't have a I don't have
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: an on off button on this home thing. Man. Is
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: it just us? Is it just our our infected office
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: in studio, or is it this has gotta be going
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: around right well?
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: The Denver Nuggets locker room is ravaged by this same illness.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Man, they don't sound like this. I know Jamal Murray
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: is coming off, by the way.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I chose not to interview Jamal yesterday, uh frankly because
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: I want to save myself. Because he looked for a
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: guy who pumped in thirty five and nine and made
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: some key shots shot after shot after the game.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you he was feeling it, lean it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: He is not stack physically, and yet he still pumps
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: in thirty five and nine. Mark Moser is not feeling
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: it and he's giving you this product.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Coach Bednar is feeling it. He's gonna be on next
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere