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Speaker 1: Thank you very much everyone.
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Speaker 2: It's a great honor to be with the President of
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Speaker 2: South Africa, President Ramaposa. And he is a man who
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Speaker 2: is certainly in some circles really respected under circles a
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Speaker 2: little bit less respected like all of.
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Speaker 1: Us in all fairness, like we all like that.
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Speaker 2: We also have a few of my friends, Ernie Els
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Speaker 2: a great golfer, he's a truly great golfer. And Rattief
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Speaker 2: Goosen who's anther other really we call him really a
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Speaker 2: great golfer to right, the two guys are fantastic, and
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Speaker 2: we could add a Gary.
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Speaker 1: To the group.
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Speaker 2: Gary player. What a group of golfers South Africa's that.
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Speaker 2: There must be something in the water, right, it's something good.
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Speaker 2: These two guys are underwater books Gary, Gary's Gary. And
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Speaker 2: David Frost also another one that I know is such
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Speaker 2: a great what was he was? He as good a
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Speaker 2: putter as they say, David, he's a putter, he's a
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Speaker 2: putting machine.
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Speaker 1: Right, But he's another one.
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Speaker 2: Something very good about South Africa and golf, and golf.
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Speaker 1: Is still doing great in South Africa and they have
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Speaker 1: young players I hear coming up that are going to
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Speaker 1: be very good.
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Speaker 2: But it's an honor to have you here, and my friend,
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Speaker 2: it's an honor to have you one of the greatest
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Speaker 2: businessmen in South Africa and long and long beyond, thank
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Speaker 2: you for being here. It's very very great honor. I
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Speaker 2: appreciate it. So we're going to be discussing certain things.
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Speaker 2: As you know, we have the G twenty is going
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Speaker 2: to South Africa.
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Speaker 1: What is that going to be in November? In November
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Speaker 1: and thereafter I hand over to you. Yes, we have an.
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Speaker 3: You originated the gpntes UH handover to pay to you
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Speaker 3: and then you need the G T.
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Speaker 1: We didn't have it. We're gonna have it the following
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Speaker 1: year year. Yeah. Uh.
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Speaker 2: So we'll be discussing many things and some of the
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Speaker 2: things you've been reading about in the papers and yes,
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Speaker 2: the media, and uh, I would say that, look, the
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Speaker 2: the president is uh uh eight truly respected men in
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Speaker 2: many many circles and in some circles he's considered a
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Speaker 2: little controversial. But uh, we're gonna be discussing, uh, some
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Speaker 2: of the things that are taking place in South Africa
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Speaker 2: and see if we can help. And we wanna help.
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Speaker 2: And we've had a long relationship with South Africa. I
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Speaker 2: have because indirectly. I have so many friends that live there.
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Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends.
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Speaker 2: I mean, these are famous guys, but I have a
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Speaker 2: lot of UH friends that live there that are tremendous people.
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Speaker 2: And UH we'll be discussing that of UH. A nice conversation,
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Speaker 2: and I really appreciate that you guys came along. It's
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Speaker 2: really it really helps us in our thought process. But
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Speaker 2: it is a great honor to have you, and I
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Speaker 2: appreciate you called Yuh.
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Speaker 1: He called. I don't know where he got my number,
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Speaker 1: but I picked up. He said, I wanna come over
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Speaker 1: and see you. That was my honor. And thank you
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Speaker 1: very much for being here.
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Speaker 3: You're most welcome. Thanks well, thank you very much for
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Speaker 3: welcoming us to this reformed UH White House. I've been
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Speaker 3: there before and it looks really fantastic. I must congratulate you,
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Speaker 3: thank you, But I also thank you for allowing our delegation.
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Speaker 3: This is a very mixed delegation that you've got. We've
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Speaker 3: got people from government, my ministers, I've got someone from
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Speaker 3: the trade union movement who we really collaborate with, and
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Speaker 3: from business as well.
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Speaker 1: And I was sporting legends when I spoke to you.
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Speaker 3: You said yes, come along and bring Gary play or
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Speaker 3: bring any else.
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Speaker 1: And person brought the two of them.
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Speaker 3: Now I spoke to him and he said, look, I'm
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Speaker 3: getting rather on in my years, but wishes us luck
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Speaker 3: in this discussion with you.
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Speaker 1: So it's a real joy.
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Speaker 3: And I'd also like to thank you for allowing your
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Speaker 3: people to study discussions with us at the trade level.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we are essentially here to reset the relationship
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Speaker 3: between the United States and South Africa. We are long
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Speaker 3: long standing partners in many many ways. We've collaborated in
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Speaker 3: many fields in space issues, in energy, and in trade,
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Speaker 3: and we therefore need to reset that, particularly in the
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Speaker 3: light of some of the announcements that you made on
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Speaker 3: trade and investments. So we want to advance more trade
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Speaker 3: between the two of us two countries, and our people
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Speaker 3: now have been empowered by yourself and by myself to
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Speaker 3: start engaging, and we hope that we would be able
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Speaker 3: to fuel that engagement during our talks. And we also
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Speaker 3: want to discuss issues that have to do with how
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Speaker 3: we promote further investments in both countries. We've got about
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Speaker 3: twenty two companies from South Africa that have invested in
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Speaker 3: the US, thus creating a number of jobs. And similarly,
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Speaker 3: you've got almost six hundred companies that have invested in
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Speaker 3: South Africa, and some of them have been in South
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Speaker 3: Africa for more than a.
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Speaker 1: Hundred years, so our links.
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Speaker 3: Are really long lasting, and we would like to recalibrate
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Speaker 3: those relations between our two countries and discuss a whole
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Speaker 3: range of issues. Geopolitical. The work that you're doing to
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Speaker 3: being peace around the world in Ukraine and in the
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Speaker 3: Middle East, so we value that, and we are also
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Speaker 3: a great contributor to processes that are going on around
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Speaker 3: the world. And of course we want to discuss how
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Speaker 3: we can support each other. You are a much bigger
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Speaker 3: economy than we are. We're just a tinning economy, but
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Speaker 3: we rely on each other on a number of issues.
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Speaker 3: We've got critical minerals that you want to fuel the
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Speaker 3: growth of your own economy and reindustrialize, so we have
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Speaker 3: that on offer, including minerals. So all that combination of
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Speaker 3: opportunity and the products that we buy from you as
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Speaker 3: well as what we sell to you, I believe makes
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Speaker 3: up a really good and powerful relationship which we need
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Speaker 3: to strengthen, which we need to engender, and that is
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Speaker 3: really what has brought us here. And we are really
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Speaker 3: privileged to have great South Africans in the mix. As
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Speaker 3: you said you'd like to see them as well. Now
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Speaker 3: brought you a really fantastic golf Uh book weighs fourteen kilograms.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's good.
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Speaker 3: And it showcases the golf courses in our country. Uh,
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Speaker 3: and Rupet wrote uh preface, so did any else? And
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Speaker 3: I want to showcase our golf courses. You might remember
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Speaker 3: when I spoke to you and we spoke about golf.
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Speaker 3: You said I should start practicing, and I've started practicing.
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Speaker 1: President, so I'm ready.
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Speaker 3: Uh, but let me end just the introductory remarks by
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Speaker 3: thanking you. You may not recall that five years ago
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Speaker 3: I spoke to you during the COVID period, right, And
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Speaker 3: it was at a time when uh, the whole world
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Speaker 3: was going through a really cathartic moment, right, and we
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Speaker 3: asked for assistance, and you were able to assist us
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Speaker 3: a rest bless a respirators, respirators, respirators and uh, you
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Speaker 3: kept your word and you delivered respirators to us.
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Speaker 1: We didn't have as many in our kind of kid.
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Speaker 3: It really helped UH to deal to help us deal
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Speaker 3: with COVID. So I'm here also to say thank you
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Speaker 3: and to thank the people of America for having helped
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Speaker 3: us during a really difficult time. Being this small economy
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Speaker 3: that we are. We needed help from around the world
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Speaker 3: and you were there to provide that.
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Speaker 1: So thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: Remember the call, Yeah, we said a hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: respirators who became uh, the respirator king. We started making them.
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Speaker 2: Nobody had 'em. We had very view of 'em. That's right,
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Speaker 2: but they were very helpful. But we said a hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty in the Yeah, and I appreciated the letter
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Speaker 2: you wrote me a letter that's right, y, thank you.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate Thank you very much for that too. Really
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Speaker 1: touched to my heart after I spoke spoke to you
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Speaker 1: and you delivered wait h thank you very much to me. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Any questions Tolstomer, Well, white afropoon.
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Speaker 4: Or refugees he or do you explain to Americans whiss
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Speaker 4: u Urbria as well from White Africo is here when
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Speaker 4: other refugees like Afghans, Uh, thats way, Whens, Casions have
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Speaker 4: all had their type of status through us.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is a group NBC that is truly fake news.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: They ask a lot of questions in a very pointed way.
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Speaker 2: They're not questioned their staments. U. We've had tremendous complaints
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Speaker 2: about Africa, about other countries too from people.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 2: They say there's a lot of bad things going on
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Speaker 2: in Africa, and that's what we're gonna.
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Speaker 1: Be discussing today.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 2: When you say we don't take others or all you
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Speaker 2: have to do is take a look at the southern border.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: We let twenty one million people come through our border
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Speaker 2: totally unchecked, totally unvented.
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Speaker 1: They came from all over the world. In many cases
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Speaker 1: they're criminals.
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Speaker 2: They come from prisons, they come from mental institutions, they
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Speaker 2: come from street gangs, they drug dealers.
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Speaker 1: Uh, So don't say that we didn't take them. We'd
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Speaker 1: take 'em.
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Speaker 2: We're trying to get them out as fast as we
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Speaker 2: can and we're doing record business on that.
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Speaker 1: And we just want a big case.
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Speaker 2: We're allowed to send back hundreds of criminals through Venezuela
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Speaker 2: just won that today and the Supreme Court I'm happy
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Speaker 2: to hear. But we do have a lot of a
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Speaker 2: lot of people are very concerned with regard to South Africa,
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Speaker 2: and that's really the purpose of the meeting. And we'll
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Speaker 2: see how that turns out. But we have many people
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Speaker 2: that feel they're being persecuted and they're coming to the
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Speaker 2: United States. So we take from many many locations if
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Speaker 2: we feel this persecution or genocide going on.
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Speaker 1: And we had a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: I must tell you, mister President, we have had a
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Speaker 2: tremendous number of people, especially since they've seen this. Generally
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Speaker 2: they're white farmers and they're fleeing South Africa and it's
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Speaker 2: you know, it's a very sad thing to see. But
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Speaker 2: I hope we can have an explanation of that, because
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Speaker 2: I know you don't want that.
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Speaker 6: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And uh, it's you know, it's a kind of a
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Speaker 2: different meeting. Normally we have meetings, we talk about trader,
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Speaker 2: we'll be talking about trade and other things. But uh,
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Speaker 2: that certainly will be a subject that comes up. Yeah, please,
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Speaker 2: bright babe, very much. Let's meat your boss on Letitia James,
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Speaker 2: director of POLTE. According to him, Latitia James says that
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Speaker 2: the alleged mortgage fraud simile of the state.
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Speaker 1: Uh when you meet your bonds on match, did you
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Speaker 1: put down that her her.
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Speaker 7: Her father was her husband.
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Speaker 1: And in a word, and this is very similar to
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Speaker 1: I guess the balls.
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Speaker 2: And well, I don't know what it is currently, but
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Speaker 2: Letitia James, who's the Attorney General of New York State.
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Speaker 1: Uh, it seemed I'm not involved in that at all.
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Speaker 2: I know they're it's being handled by s various groups,
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Speaker 2: I guess, but it's uh it's major fraud uh mortgage
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Speaker 2: documents and uh fraudulent everything. I think she said the
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Speaker 2: father was her husband, which she had to have a
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Speaker 2: husband or so she chose her father and she put
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Speaker 2: it down and she's had had Uh didn't she uh
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Speaker 2: sign in Virginia yet she's she said she lived in Virginia,
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Speaker 2: yet she's the New York State Attorney General. And she
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Speaker 2: did that for tax reasons so she could take advantage
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Speaker 2: of taxes.
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Speaker 1: And she had the wrong number of units.
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Speaker 2: She had a much different number, which wouldn't have allowed
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Speaker 2: her to qualify and and scam the government.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think she's very bad for
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Speaker 1: New York. But I really don't know too much about her.
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Speaker 1: But I appreciate the question. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 7: Ye, so will.
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Speaker 6: Be the celebration of.
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Speaker 1: Each on the world in the United States.
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Speaker 2: Why does your next sis live and started African s well,
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Speaker 2: I wanna see peace, and I wanna see happiness, I
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Speaker 2: wanna see health.
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Speaker 1: And you know you have incredible land. There's tremendous value.
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Speaker 1: A lot of countries don't have that value in the land,
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Speaker 1: the value you have. You know, we have a situation.
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Speaker 1: I think you probably heard about it. If we've UH.
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Speaker 2: Done through some very talented people helped UH settle a
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Speaker 2: war that's been raging for years.
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Speaker 1: Rwanda and the Congo who and I think we've done it.
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Speaker 1: I believe it or not, I think we've done it.
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Speaker 1: And uh I could you just say a few words
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Speaker 1: about that, my friend.
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Speaker 8: Yes, UH, A couple of weeks of movie signed if
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Speaker 8: they signed, the two party signed the vacuation or principally
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Speaker 8: in which the.
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Speaker 1: Weed on the way forward and we're uh.
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Speaker 8: They have both submitted uh uh drift peace agreements and
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Speaker 8: we we have UH put together one that incorporates both
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Speaker 8: of their suggestions and we've given it to them. So
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Speaker 8: we're in the process of finalizing the right looking very
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Speaker 8: good use.
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Speaker 3: You know, we have to thank you for even those
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Speaker 3: efforts because they're the African continent, particularly Sadak of a
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Speaker 3: Southern African development community has for years been seeking to
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Speaker 3: foster peace in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. So
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Speaker 3: all efforts, including those from outside the continent and inside
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Speaker 3: the continent are really worth one. We have just we
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Speaker 3: are remove removing our troops from there so that peace
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Speaker 3: can then prevail in that whole area. And uh we
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Speaker 3: hope that uh, with the support of the international community, Uh,
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Speaker 3: we will really have peace in that area. It's so
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Speaker 3: vital and so important for the whole region.
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Speaker 2: Well, we sent to our people there, uh, and I
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Speaker 2: think we did.
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Speaker 1: A very good job. I said it by my friend
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Speaker 1: and that was great. That was great.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just hearing phenomenal reports because all I've
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Speaker 2: hearing is death, death, and the chopping heads off, and
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Speaker 2: it's a.
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Speaker 1: Horrible over there, and and uh it's it was really
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Speaker 1: brave of you to go there, and I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: And it looks like that, it looks like we have
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Speaker 2: something very very substantial. We also uh talked about trade
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Speaker 2: with them in terms of uh rarer at all, but
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Speaker 2: UH really more for the It's like, uh, if you
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Speaker 2: take a look at what we just did with Pakistan
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Speaker 2: and India, we settled that whole and I think I
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Speaker 2: settled it through trade. We're we're doing a big deal
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Speaker 2: with UH India. We're doing a big deal with Pakistan.
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Speaker 2: And they said, what are you guys doing? You know,
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Speaker 2: they somebody had to be the last one to shoot,
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Speaker 2: but the shooting was getting worse and worse, bigger and bigger,
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Speaker 2: deeper and deeper into the countries.
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Speaker 1: And uh, we spoke to 'em and we I think
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Speaker 1: we you know, I hate to say, we got it settled.
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Speaker 2: And then two days later something happens and they say
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Speaker 2: it's Trump's fault, but uh, we Pakistan has UH got
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Speaker 2: some excellent people.
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Speaker 1: It's a really good great leader than India. Is my
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Speaker 1: friend Modi Mody and he's a mutual friend. Yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: a great guy. And I call them both and we
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Speaker 1: we just, uh it's something good. We Uh we're trying
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Speaker 1: to settle Russia, Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: You spoke with UH President Putin for two and a
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Speaker 2: half hours the day before yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Think we made a lot of progress, But that's a bloodbed.
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Speaker 2: Five thousand people are being killed a week, five thousand
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Speaker 2: soldiers a week, not including people in cities and towns
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Speaker 2: that are also being killed.
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Speaker 1: So we're trying to help and it doesn't affect us.
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Speaker 2: It's not our people, it's not our soldiers, it's not
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Speaker 2: our m it's Ukraine and it's Russia. But if we
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Speaker 2: can say five thousand souls willn't do it, you know,
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Speaker 2: we'll be pretty good at it. But it's a that's
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Speaker 2: a bad situation. That is a really bad situation.
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Speaker 3: Well, you'd recall when the president is it ask you
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Speaker 3: us come into South Africa.
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Speaker 1: That's when I spoke to you. That's right.
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Speaker 3: We both agree that we needs to push the peace
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Speaker 3: message so that it can be to be peace. And
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Speaker 3: we've been involved, uh in the U Great Russia conflict
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Speaker 3: for quite a while. To my Minister of State Security here,
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Speaker 3: we've been dealing with them in the exchange of children
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Speaker 3: were taken away, going through names and addresses and all that.
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Speaker 3: So we've been invested in that whole process as well.
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Speaker 3: And the moves that you're making are fully supported by
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Speaker 3: us because we would like to see the end of
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Speaker 3: that war.
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Speaker 2: Sure, I called Zelenski and they said he's in South Africa.
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Speaker 1: I said, what the hell is he doing in he
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Speaker 1: was talking to He said, what you're doing in South Africa?
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Speaker 1: He's trying to make peace.
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Speaker 3: But we we taking him, you know, we were we
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Speaker 3: were lucky people. We had the great Nurse at Manila
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Speaker 3: who taught us how to create peace, to make peace.
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Speaker 3: So we were imparting some of those lessons to him,
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Speaker 3: some of those learnings, and I specifically mentioned to him
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Speaker 3: this is how nurse and Manetta told us that when
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Speaker 3: you want to have the peace in a country, do
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Speaker 3: it on an unconditional basis and sit down and talk.
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Speaker 1: And that's precisely what I'm sure he's going to heat.
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Speaker 2: We want to see what happens with that when it's
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Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot of hatred, there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of death.
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Speaker 1: It's a bloodbath.
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Speaker 2: I get the unfortunately, I get the satellite pictures of
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Speaker 2: that field, of that killing field. You never saw anything
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Speaker 2: like it. And it's a horrible thing that goes on.
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Speaker 2: But I think we've made.
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Speaker 6: Progress ahead.
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Speaker 1: Right here South Africa.
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Speaker 7: What are you expending on the.
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Speaker 1: I c J case?
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Speaker 6: Are you.
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Speaker 1: On wage case in criminal justice? Uh? I don't expect anything,
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Speaker 1: to be honest, I really don't. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It's Uh, they've got uh occasions, a lot of anger there,
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Speaker 2: tremendous anger. I don't expect anything. We'll see what happens.
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Speaker 2: We'll have a ruling, and who knows what the ruling
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Speaker 2: is gonna mean. Yeah, all that subject of a galls
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Speaker 2: that this president going to be speeking to, Uh why
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Speaker 2: ins and y'all about?
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Speaker 6: Is Wrael?
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Speaker 7: Those good defense to that?
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Speaker 9: Being a little considered your being country.
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Speaker 6: This expressed in SI Are.
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Speaker 1: You going to be honest on this?
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Speaker 10: To you?
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Speaker 6: Is there done offense?
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Speaker 1: And that was that a question or a statement? Question
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Speaker 1: education that you never chose.
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Speaker 11: You for you to be convinced that there's no white genocide.
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Speaker 1: In South Africa, Well I can answer that.
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Speaker 3: For Christian it is h for you have him ya.
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Speaker 1: It.
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Speaker 3: It will take President Trump listening to the voices of
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Speaker 3: South African some of whom are his good friends, like
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Speaker 3: those who are here when we have talks between us
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Speaker 3: on the quiet on the quiet table.
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Speaker 1: It will take President Trump to listen to them.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying.
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Speaker 3: I would say if there was Afrikana farmer genocide, I
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Speaker 3: can bet you these three gentlemen would not be here,
28:28
Speaker 3: including my Minister of Agriculture, he would not be with me.
28:33
Speaker 3: So it'll take him President Trump, listening to their stories,
28:39
Speaker 3: to their perspective.
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Speaker 1: That is the answer to your question.
28:43
Speaker 2: But we have none of We have thousands of stories
28:49
Speaker 2: talking about it. Show me, we have documentaries, we have
28:54
Speaker 2: news stories and there is Natalie here, somebody here to
28:58
Speaker 2: turn that. I could show you a couple of things,
29:00
Speaker 2: and I would, I just I have to. It has
29:04
Speaker 2: to be responded to. Sure, we have Let me see
29:07
Speaker 2: the articles place of what you would and turn excuse me,
29:10
Speaker 2: turn the lights down, turn the lights down and just
29:14
Speaker 2: put this on.
29:15
Speaker 1: It's right behind you, yohn.
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Speaker 7: It's not this Parliament can do.
29:20
Speaker 6: We talk to you.
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Speaker 12: People are going to occupieland will require no permission from you,
29:27
Speaker 12: from the prison, from no one. We don't care. We
29:30
Speaker 12: can do whatever you want to do. Who are you
29:32
Speaker 12: to tell us where I can.
29:33
Speaker 1: Occupiland or not.
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Speaker 7: We are going to occupie land.
29:37
Speaker 9: That we get occupie land.
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Speaker 13: That's who.
29:42
Speaker 11: Can we do?
29:47
Speaker 13: Yeah?
29:53
Speaker 1: People, at some point.
29:58
Speaker 12: Because the kid it's puking in the busy, shoot g
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Speaker 12: your mother's.
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Speaker 14: Do boo one what funy mother do the boo?
30:12
Speaker 1: The fuck man? What boom?
30:18
Speaker 7: What boom?
30:22
Speaker 14: Basa boo the MoMA.
30:28
Speaker 1: Bo wal the ball that man off DJ and B
30:34
Speaker 1: is that white man.
30:37
Speaker 2: So if it's pig, would.
30:38
Speaker 1: Run even run to eating at a hots go putip.
30:41
Speaker 7: At white back and fee at tipa work paid.
30:45
Speaker 1: They got that tis a white man, not he goes
30:50
Speaker 1: to my sub so they would not be tis. They
30:53
Speaker 1: would be tied a stun pop.
30:56
Speaker 7: I think with it's a white ness.
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Speaker 9: W catink that time shoot sho You'm mother saw the
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Speaker 9: bree on the forebe to the root one, the fore
31:12
Speaker 9: one pull in the.
31:19
Speaker 14: Shoot to kid, then say tea the clean one, the
31:25
Speaker 14: then that glean the po the then that I remember what.
31:39
Speaker 3: School subject in the future said to what's off course
31:43
Speaker 3: or the cheat or white people?
31:45
Speaker 1: At least for n I right down, I see the feature.
31:47
Speaker 1: Yea what and if you do, you understand some of
31:50
Speaker 1: you walking back, especially as it gets scared on.
31:52
Speaker 6: For the next week. O.
31:53
Speaker 14: It sounds like if you sidle a eye like that, M.
32:14
Speaker 1: See see.
32:33
Speaker 12: Or what expropriates that you call compensation whether they like
32:36
Speaker 12: you to or locked if they object that that secularity
32:40
Speaker 12: and not be any kind of state.
32:45
Speaker 1: Now this is very bad.
32:46
Speaker 2: These are the These are burial sites right here, burial
32:52
Speaker 2: sites over a thousand of white farmers. And those cars
32:59
Speaker 2: are lined up to pay love on a Sunday morning.
33:03
Speaker 2: Each one of those white things you see is a
33:06
Speaker 2: cross and there's approximately a thousand of them. They're all
33:12
Speaker 2: white farmers, the family of white farmers. And those guys
33:17
Speaker 2: aren't driving. They're stopped there to pay respects to their
33:20
Speaker 2: family member who's killed. And it's a terrible sight. I've
33:26
Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. Both sides of the road
33:31
Speaker 2: you have crosses. Those people are all killed.
33:44
Speaker 3: Have they told you where that is, mister president? I mean,
33:48
Speaker 3: you know, I'd like to know where that is because
33:51
Speaker 3: of this I've never seen.
33:54
Speaker 1: But don't okay, I mean it's in South Africa. It's week.
34:00
Speaker 1: We need to find out.
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Speaker 15: I don't know.
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Speaker 7: Those people, Okay, it would be exciting.
34:29
Speaker 1: Guitar, What are you talking about? What are you you
34:37
Speaker 1: know you to get out of here? What does this
34:40
Speaker 1: have to do with the guitar? Jet?
34:42
Speaker 2: They're giving the United States Air Force a jet? Okay,
34:45
Speaker 2: And it's a great thing. We're talking about a lot
34:47
Speaker 2: of other things. It's NBC trying to get off the
34:50
Speaker 2: subject of what you just saw. You are a real
34:53
Speaker 2: you know, you're a terrible reporter.
34:55
Speaker 1: Number one, you.
34:56
Speaker 2: Don't have what it takes to be a reporter, you're
34:58
Speaker 2: not smart enough. But for you to go onto a
35:00
Speaker 2: subject about a jet that was given to the United
35:03
Speaker 2: States Air Force, which is a very nice thing. They
35:06
Speaker 2: also gave five point one trillion dollars worth of investment
35:10
Speaker 2: in addition to the jet. Go back, You have to
35:14
Speaker 2: go back to your studio at NBC because Brian Roberts
35:18
Speaker 2: and the people that run that place, they are to
35:20
Speaker 2: be investigated. They are so terrible the way you run
35:24
Speaker 2: that deatwork and you're a disgraced No more.
35:27
Speaker 1: Questions from you.
35:27
Speaker 15: Go ahead, go ahead, talk about that. His name is
35:34
Speaker 15: Peter something. He's a terrible reporter. Quiet, quiet, let's go.
35:45
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. What would you like president to
35:50
Speaker 1: do about the situation?
35:51
Speaker 2: I don't on the screen, I don't know or look,
35:56
Speaker 2: these are articles over the last few days, death of people, death, death, death,
36:08
Speaker 2: horrible death.
36:10
Speaker 1: Death. I don't know to pick anyone.
36:14
Speaker 2: White South Africans are fleeing because of the violence and
36:18
Speaker 2: racist laws, and this is all I mean.
36:22
Speaker 1: I'll give these to you so when you when you
36:25
Speaker 1: say what would I like to do? I don't know
36:26
Speaker 1: what to do. Just look at this white South African
36:29
Speaker 1: couple say that they were attacked.
36:31
Speaker 7: Violently and will you go and see what your son?
36:36
Speaker 6: Well, I could do that.
36:37
Speaker 2: Look, here's burial sites all over the place. They're all
36:39
Speaker 2: these are all white farmers that are being burned. And
36:42
Speaker 2: he asks about a jet that was given.
36:45
Speaker 1: You ought to be ashamed of you. You know, you're
36:47
Speaker 1: you are so.
36:48
Speaker 16: Bad, You're such a bad reporter. This is one after
36:58
Speaker 16: another that this family he was wiped out.
37:01
Speaker 2: I'm just looking, well, I think it's I think the
37:10
Speaker 2: videos are so no. No, when you look at the videos,
37:14
Speaker 2: I mean, how does it get worse? And these are
37:16
Speaker 2: people that are officials and they're saying that kill the
37:19
Speaker 2: white farmer and take their land.
37:22
Speaker 6: That's what.
37:23
Speaker 2: And I have other friends in South Africa have people
37:26
Speaker 2: that left, one in particular that says it's you.
37:30
Speaker 1: Can't go there.
37:30
Speaker 2: He said, they want to take your land, they take
37:33
Speaker 2: your land, and they kill you. It's okay, And they
37:36
Speaker 2: say it's okay to do. Now we're going to talk
37:38
Speaker 2: about it. But this is a tremendous Look, this is
37:41
Speaker 2: a story of recent These are all people that recently
37:44
Speaker 2: got killed.
37:46
Speaker 1: And I don't know how it can get any worse.
37:52
Speaker 2: And you know, the man that you saw the men
37:54
Speaker 2: that you saw, the people that you saw that, well,
37:56
Speaker 2: those are officials, those are people that were in office.
38:00
Speaker 2: They had one march, they had a dance in your parliament,
38:05
Speaker 2: whatever you may legislature.
38:07
Speaker 1: Let me verify that.
38:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me clarify that, because what you saw, the
38:12
Speaker 3: speeches that are being made one that is not government policy.
38:17
Speaker 3: We have a multi party democracy in South Africa that
38:21
Speaker 3: allows people to express themselves, political parties to adhere to
38:26
Speaker 3: various policies and in many cases or in some cases,
38:30
Speaker 3: those policies do not go along with government policy.
38:36
Speaker 1: Our government policy is.
38:39
Speaker 3: Completely completely against what he was saying, even in the parliament.
38:46
Speaker 3: And they're a small minority party which is allowed to
38:51
Speaker 3: exist in terms of our constitution.
38:53
Speaker 1: But you do allow them to take land? No, no, no, no,
38:57
Speaker 1: do allow them to take money. Nobody can take where
39:00
Speaker 1: fake the land? They killed the white farmer.
39:02
Speaker 2: And when they killed the white farmer, nothing happens to them,
39:07
Speaker 2: nothing happens.
39:08
Speaker 1: That is criminality in our country.
39:11
Speaker 3: People who do get killed, unfortunately through criminal activity are
39:17
Speaker 3: not only white people.
39:19
Speaker 1: Majority of them are black people. And we are now
39:23
Speaker 1: the farmers are black.
39:24
Speaker 2: The farmers are not black. I don't say that's good
39:26
Speaker 2: or bad. But the farmers are not black. And the
39:29
Speaker 2: people that are being killed in large numbers, and you
39:33
Speaker 2: see all those grave sites, and those are people that
39:36
Speaker 2: loved ones going I guess on a Sunday morning.
39:38
Speaker 1: They told me to pay.
39:39
Speaker 2: Respect to their loved ones that were killed, their heads
39:43
Speaker 2: chopped off, they died violently. And you know, I mean,
39:49
Speaker 2: we're here to talk about it, and you know, we
39:51
Speaker 2: get involved here. But I will say this that if
39:56
Speaker 2: the news wasn't fake like NBC, which is fake news,
39:59
Speaker 2: totally one of the worst, ABC, NBCCBS horrible. But if
40:03
Speaker 2: they weren't fake news like this jerk that we have here,
40:07
Speaker 2: if we had real reporters, they'd be covering it.
40:10
Speaker 1: But the fake news in this country doesn't.
40:13
Speaker 2: Talk about that. They don't want to talk about it.
40:16
Speaker 2: But now they have to talk about it, but they won't.
40:19
Speaker 2: This won't even be a subject they'll have him talking about.
40:22
Speaker 2: Why did a country give a free think of this?
40:27
Speaker 2: Why did a country give an airplane to the United
40:29
Speaker 2: States Air Force? Okay, the United States, not to me,
40:33
Speaker 2: to the United States Air Force so they could help
40:36
Speaker 2: us out because we need an air force one until
40:39
Speaker 2: our set's air Force one it's being built, two of
40:42
Speaker 2: them being built, but Boeing's a little bit later, unfortunately.
40:46
Speaker 1: So why did they give us a plane to the
40:49
Speaker 1: United States Air Force?
40:50
Speaker 2: That's what that idiot talks about after viewing a thing
40:53
Speaker 2: where thousands of people it dead.
40:55
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't have a plane to give you.
40:57
Speaker 1: I wish I did.
41:00
Speaker 2: I would tell if your country offered the United States
41:02
Speaker 2: Air Force supplant, I would take.
41:04
Speaker 1: It, okay.
41:05
Speaker 3: But coming back to this issue, which I really would
41:09
Speaker 3: like us to talk about and talk about it very calmly.
41:13
Speaker 3: We were taught by Nelson Mandela that whenever there are problems,
41:18
Speaker 3: people need to sit down around the table and talk
41:21
Speaker 3: about it. And this is precisely what we would also
41:25
Speaker 3: like to talk about, including of course trade matters, investment matters,
41:29
Speaker 3: so the issues that concerned.
41:32
Speaker 1: You as the United States and your death. Yeah, in
41:36
Speaker 1: many ways, I mean one one should say you are.
41:40
Speaker 3: A partner, a partner of South Africa and that you
41:43
Speaker 3: are raising concerns and these are concerns.
41:46
Speaker 1: That we are willing to talk to you about. Let
41:50
Speaker 1: me just add quickly, you know, the.
41:55
Speaker 3: Communality that were experiencing our country needs quite a lot
41:59
Speaker 3: of technological capability, and in one of our areas in
42:05
Speaker 3: South Africa, we're using you as technology which is able
42:09
Speaker 3: to in many ways identify where shootings are happening and
42:14
Speaker 3: all that.
42:15
Speaker 1: And I'd like to talk about that because.
42:17
Speaker 3: There is support that we can get from you in
42:20
Speaker 3: the United States to help us deal with all these
42:24
Speaker 3: active criminality.
42:25
Speaker 1: And that is what I believe partnership is all about.
42:28
Speaker 3: And we are here as a partner so that we
42:31
Speaker 3: can help each other whenever there are challenges. So I'd
42:36
Speaker 3: like us to discuss it, and of course outside of
42:39
Speaker 3: the media, so that we sit down and have a
42:42
Speaker 3: really good discussion that will lead to good outcomes. That
42:53
Speaker 3: could be a place should you not be satisfied, plait
43:01
Speaker 3: auh happen?
43:03
Speaker 2: Well, there are a lot of bad things happening in
43:05
Speaker 2: you know, many countries, but this in particular, it has
43:08
Speaker 2: been very very bad, very bad. And because of you know,
43:11
Speaker 2: we're gonna whole have the whole world watching in another
43:15
Speaker 2: short period of time because you have the G twenty
43:18
Speaker 2: and that's a big deal.
43:19
Speaker 1: And it seees it seems like, yeah, I mean, I
43:23
Speaker 1: want you to look good. I I don't want you
43:25
Speaker 1: to look bad cause but you.
43:27
Speaker 2: We have hundreds of people, thousands of people trying to
43:30
Speaker 2: come into our country because they feel they're gonna be
43:32
Speaker 2: killed and their land is gonna be confiscated. And you
43:36
Speaker 2: do have laws that were passed that gives you the
43:38
Speaker 2: right to confiscate land for no payment. You can take
43:41
Speaker 2: away land for no payment. I don't want to clarify that,
43:44
Speaker 2: cause we have a constitution. Our constitution guarantees and protects
43:49
Speaker 2: the sanctity of tenure of land ownership, and that constitution
43:55
Speaker 2: protects all South Africans with regard to land. Oh machine, However,
44:01
Speaker 2: we do say, because we've got to deal with the past,
44:05
Speaker 2: the government and s your government also has their ye
44:08
Speaker 2: to appropriate land for public use.
44:11
Speaker 1: And you're doing that, and uh what we've never really
44:15
Speaker 1: got in underwait with that, and we are to be doing.
44:18
Speaker 2: You're taking you're taking people's land we have and those
44:23
Speaker 2: people in many cases.
44:24
Speaker 1: Are being executed.
44:26
Speaker 2: They're being executed, and they happen to be white, and
44:30
Speaker 2: most of them happened to be farmers.
44:32
Speaker 1: And that's a tough situation. I don't know how you
44:34
Speaker 1: explain that.
44:35
Speaker 2: How do you explain that they're taking people's land away,
44:40
Speaker 2: and in many cases those people are being executed, and
44:42
Speaker 2: in many cases it's not the government that soon, it's people,
44:45
Speaker 2: you know, that kill them and then take their land
44:48
Speaker 2: and nothing happens to them. But we have thousands of
44:51
Speaker 2: people that want to come into our country. They're also
44:53
Speaker 2: going to Australia in a smaller number, but we have
44:57
Speaker 2: thousands of people that want to come into our country.
45:00
Speaker 2: They're white farmers and they feel that they're going to
45:03
Speaker 2: die in South Africa and it's a bad thing.
45:07
Speaker 17: Yeah, what.
45:12
Speaker 1: Can South Africa do? What concessions would you like to
45:14
Speaker 1: see them beat?
45:16
Speaker 7: Improve relations with the United States?
45:18
Speaker 1: That I have a one worker President Romobos afterwards, well,
45:21
Speaker 1: you know, we just spoke about it.
45:22
Speaker 2: I got them a very very complex machine, one hundred
45:26
Speaker 2: and fifty of them. I was asked by the president
45:29
Speaker 2: if they can help, and I did that. And you know,
45:33
Speaker 2: I have great feeling for all countries. Look, I deal
45:36
Speaker 2: with all countries, but I have a great feeling for
45:39
Speaker 2: South Africa because I have friends. I have a couple
45:41
Speaker 2: of friends, a few friends here today. I have many
45:44
Speaker 2: friends from South Africa, but many of those friends are
45:49
Speaker 2: or they can't go back. I have elons from South Africa.
45:52
Speaker 2: I don't want to get Elon involved.
45:54
Speaker 1: That's all I have to do.
45:55
Speaker 2: Get him into another thing. But what happens to me
45:59
Speaker 2: from Southeas Africa, this is what Elone wanted. He actually
46:03
Speaker 2: came here on a different subject, sending rockets to Mars. Okay,
46:07
Speaker 2: he likes that better. He likes that subject better. But
46:10
Speaker 2: Elon is from South Africa. I don't want to talk
46:13
Speaker 2: to him about that.
46:14
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't think it's fair to him.
46:16
Speaker 1: But I will say that.
46:18
Speaker 2: People are fleeing South Africa for their own safety. Their
46:22
Speaker 2: land is being confiscated and in many cases they're being killed.
46:26
Speaker 2: And that scene of you see how many crosses they have,
46:30
Speaker 2: those crosses, that's a dead person in every one of them,
46:33
Speaker 2: and those trucks or cars are paying their respects to
46:37
Speaker 2: all of those dead people on a Sunday morning. That's
46:40
Speaker 2: a that's a rough that's a rough thing to explain away.
46:45
Speaker 2: And the problem we have and the way, you know,
46:49
Speaker 2: a correct and a fair media exposes things, but we
46:54
Speaker 2: have a very corrupt media. They won't even report this.
46:58
Speaker 2: If this were the other way around, it would be
47:00
Speaker 2: the biggest story. Now, I will say apartheid terrible. That
47:04
Speaker 2: was the biggest story that was reported all the time.
47:07
Speaker 2: This is sort of the opposite of apartheid. What's happening
47:11
Speaker 2: now is never reported. Nobody knows about it. All we
47:14
Speaker 2: know is we're being inundated with people with white farmers
47:18
Speaker 2: from South Africa and it's a big problem. Marco Rubio
47:23
Speaker 2: is telling me he's never seen anything like it, the
47:26
Speaker 2: numbers of people that want to leave South Africa because
47:28
Speaker 2: they feel they're going to be dead versus Yes, Brian.
47:33
Speaker 10: I'm gonna ask me a question.
47:35
Speaker 1: Seventy farmers in your country are white. If they flee,
47:39
Speaker 1: do you feel that maybe the e commune could collapse?
47:43
Speaker 1: You may not have a gap to fill in those
47:45
Speaker 1: people that we replace those farmers.
47:47
Speaker 3: You know, I'd like my Minister of Agriculture, who is white,
47:53
Speaker 3: who comes from opposition party to mine, who has joined
47:58
Speaker 3: my compliment, my invitation to address this very issue, including
48:06
Speaker 3: the question that you've just raised.
48:08
Speaker 1: John, Thank you very much for the President. The President
48:11
Speaker 1: welcomes to the White House.
48:13
Speaker 17: I would say we have a rural saving problem in
48:15
Speaker 17: solid I don't think anyone wants to candy coat that,
48:19
Speaker 17: and it requires a lot of effort to get on
48:21
Speaker 17: top of it, it's going to require more policing resources,
48:24
Speaker 17: it's going to require different strategy to be able to
48:26
Speaker 17: deal with it. But certainly the majority of South Africa's
48:29
Speaker 17: commercial and smaller farmers rarely do want to stay in
48:33
Speaker 17: South Africa and make it work. And I've just come
48:36
Speaker 17: from the largest agricultural show in the Southern Hemisphere with
48:39
Speaker 17: organized agriculture and farmers and the majority they want to stay.
48:42
Speaker 1: But they too, they have a memorial to those who've
48:45
Speaker 1: died as a result.
48:46
Speaker 17: Of farm attacks. And as the Minister of Agriculture, it
48:50
Speaker 17: is something that I'm particularly exercised with my colleagues and
48:54
Speaker 17: police and my colleagues and the Justice Cluster to start
48:57
Speaker 17: making farm attacks and stop a priority crime. And it
49:02
Speaker 17: affects all farmers in South Africa, particularly stock theft has
49:05
Speaker 17: a disproportionate effect on small black farmers. I also want
49:09
Speaker 17: to just say this that the two individuals that are
49:12
Speaker 17: in that video that you've seen are both leaders of
49:16
Speaker 17: opposition minority parties in South Africa and Kanto sees where
49:20
Speaker 17: under mister Zuma and the economic freedom fighters under mister Malema. Now,
49:24
Speaker 17: the reason that my party, the Democratic Alliance, which has
49:28
Speaker 17: been an opposition party over thirty years, chose to join
49:31
Speaker 17: hands with mister Ramapausa's party was precise to keep those
49:35
Speaker 17: people out of power. We cannot have those people sitting
49:39
Speaker 17: in the Union buildings making decisions. And that is why
49:42
Speaker 17: after thirty years of us exchanging barbs across the floor
49:46
Speaker 17: in Parliament and trying to get one over on each other,
49:50
Speaker 17: we've decided to join hands precisely to keep that lot
49:54
Speaker 17: out of government. Because the day they get in to
49:57
Speaker 17: the doors of the Union buildings in South Africa or
50:00
Speaker 17: control about Parliament, that's what you're gonna see.
50:03
Speaker 1: And that is why this government working together.
50:06
Speaker 17: Needs a support of our allies around the world so
50:09
Speaker 17: that we can strengthen our hand, grow our economy and
50:12
Speaker 17: shut the door forever on that rebel getting through the
50:15
Speaker 17: doors of the Union bodies, because then South Africa's future.
50:19
Speaker 1: So you denounced that type.
50:20
Speaker 3: Of language in the video that he saw, Oh yes,
50:23
Speaker 3: the order has done so as government, as my own party,
50:27
Speaker 3: we are.
50:28
Speaker 1: Completely opposed to that.
50:30
Speaker 3: We in nineteen fifty five adopted a document which said
50:34
Speaker 3: so africcup belongs to a poor would load in it.
50:38
Speaker 1: But why wouldn't you arrest that man.
50:40
Speaker 2: That man said kill the white farmers, kill the white farmers,
50:44
Speaker 2: and then he danced, and he's dancing dancing, and it's
50:47
Speaker 2: killed the white farmers. I think, I'm not sure, but
50:51
Speaker 2: I think if somebody got up in environment and started
50:53
Speaker 2: saying kill a certain group of people that he would
50:57
Speaker 2: be in he would be arrested very quickly.
51:01
Speaker 1: That man is going all over South Africa. And that's
51:04
Speaker 1: not a small party.
51:05
Speaker 2: That was a stadium that holds one hundred thousand people
51:09
Speaker 2: and I hardly saw an emptc. That's a lot of people.
51:12
Speaker 2: That's a lot of representation, and those crosses. We have
51:17
Speaker 2: dead white people, dead white farmers mostly. And you take
51:21
Speaker 2: a look at Australia, they're being inundated and we're being
51:24
Speaker 2: inundated with people that want to get out and their
51:28
Speaker 2: farmer is valueless. It's valueless and they just want to
51:32
Speaker 2: get out with their life. And this is a very
51:37
Speaker 2: serious situation.
51:38
Speaker 1: And if we had a real news or real press
51:41
Speaker 1: or media.
51:42
Speaker 2: We don't have that because they won't talk about this
51:45
Speaker 2: because there are all guys like that idiot. But if
51:47
Speaker 2: we had a real press, it would be exposed, and
51:50
Speaker 2: you know the beauty of exposing it is just like
51:52
Speaker 2: a cleansing action. When it gets exposed, it'll get fixed.
51:56
Speaker 2: That's when it will get fixed. But people don't talk
51:58
Speaker 2: about it. And he was talking about the thousands of
52:01
Speaker 2: people that are fleeing South Africa right now.
52:08
Speaker 13: Discuss discussed the US aid the devastation and cots are
52:13
Speaker 13: having across the African constant.
52:15
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's devastating and hopefully a lot of
52:19
Speaker 2: people are going to start spending a lot of money.
52:23
Speaker 1: And I've talked to other nations.
52:25
Speaker 2: We want them to chip in and spend money too,
52:28
Speaker 2: and we've spent a lot and it's a big it's
52:31
Speaker 2: it's a tremendous problem going on in many countries, a
52:34
Speaker 2: lot of problems going on. The United States always gets
52:39
Speaker 2: the request for money. Nobody else helps, as you know,
52:42
Speaker 2: Europe doesn't help. Europe hasn't given anything. All they do
52:46
Speaker 2: is sue our companies. You know, they sue Apple and
52:49
Speaker 2: they sue all of our companies. Apple had to pay
52:52
Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars.
52:53
Speaker 1: On a nonsense loss. Very unfair. But we we can
52:58
Speaker 1: always be there to help.
53:01
Speaker 8: Shouldn't rise to South African Broadcasting if this up, honor.
53:05
Speaker 7: He said in the issue is dissolved to go into
53:07
Speaker 7: the room off of this, you guys, if it is resolved,
53:10
Speaker 7: it's the.
53:10
Speaker 1: Potential for the futureship. It's gotta be resolved. It should
53:15
Speaker 1: be resolved.
53:15
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's it's a little bit bad when
53:18
Speaker 2: you see a stadium with a hundred thousand people in it,
53:20
Speaker 2: because that means it's more than just.
53:23
Speaker 1: A little movement. It's a pretty big movement in South Africa.
53:26
Speaker 1: So it has to be resolved. It'll be the end
53:29
Speaker 1: of the country of itship moving forward, I hope. So
53:33
Speaker 1: that's why I'm here. I mean, I'm not here for
53:36
Speaker 1: my health. I'm here there.
53:39
Speaker 2: No I'd like to see. I have friends I can
53:41
Speaker 2: tell you. Ernie Else and Ratief Goosen, they feel so
53:45
Speaker 2: strongly they wanted to be here on behalf of South Africa,
53:48
Speaker 2: not on behalf of me. And you know they said,
53:51
Speaker 2: can we be here for this because they love the country.
53:54
Speaker 16: Ernie.
53:55
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to say a couple of words
53:56
Speaker 1: or I don't.
53:57
Speaker 2: I hate to put in this. This is tougher than
54:00
Speaker 2: sinking to three foot and they've shaken many three foot.
54:09
Speaker 10: Thank you for President, and thanks for the honor of
54:12
Speaker 10: being here. We've known each other long time, we have spoken.
54:20
Speaker 10: You know, we proud South Africa. I still have my
54:22
Speaker 10: South Africa passport. We traveled with this passport, you know,
54:27
Speaker 10: and I my visa yet, so you know, but we
54:32
Speaker 10: want to see things get better in our home country.
54:35
Speaker 10: And that's the bottom line. It's been thirty five years
54:40
Speaker 10: since the transition. President ram Opposa was right in the
54:43
Speaker 10: middle of the transition time in nineteen ninety and before that,
54:51
Speaker 10: so it's been thirty five years of anti government and
54:57
Speaker 10: I know there's a there's a lot of anger, you know, uh.
55:00
Speaker 1: Through the transition.
55:01
Speaker 10: There's also a lot of stuff happening in the apartheid days.
55:05
Speaker 10: You know, we grew up in the apartheid year.
55:11
Speaker 1: But I don't think two wrongs makes a right.
55:13
Speaker 10: You know, President Mandela when he came out of prison
55:18
Speaker 10: for all that time, didn't come out with hatred, you know,
55:23
Speaker 10: and really unified our our nation and sport. You know,
55:29
Speaker 10: we won Therectly World Cup in the ninety five four time,
55:33
Speaker 10: we won the African Nations Cup, uh soccer. You know,
55:39
Speaker 10: we won some majors as golfers and so forth. So
55:44
Speaker 10: what I'm trying to say is, you know, we it.
55:46
Speaker 10: This has been a long time coming. That's why we
55:50
Speaker 10: really wanted to meet you with the administration and see
55:54
Speaker 10: our way forward, cause we still want to see our
55:58
Speaker 10: country flourish.
55:59
Speaker 1: You know, we got some great things going on. Business
56:01
Speaker 1: is getting.
56:02
Speaker 10: Involved with the government, farming, farmers are getting involved in
56:08
Speaker 10: local municipalities. It's trying to rebuild some of the infrastructure
56:12
Speaker 10: that's been the decaying for a long time. So there's
56:16
Speaker 10: a lot of UH co existence going on, and and
56:21
Speaker 10: and and help from UH a lot of areas.
56:24
Speaker 1: But we need, I feel, we need the US to
56:29
Speaker 1: push this thing through.
56:32
Speaker 10: We've got a great ally if we can have the US.
56:35
Speaker 10: It's always been an ally of of South Africa for
56:38
Speaker 10: a very long time, even in the days of the
56:41
Speaker 10: of the war.
56:42
Speaker 1: You know up in Angota.
56:44
Speaker 6: You know, you guys helped us, so.
56:47
Speaker 1: Very important for us to to have your support.
56:50
Speaker 10: And you know, get the change we need.
56:54
Speaker 1: Where did you do that?
57:00
Speaker 2: You might have done that even better than he plays gold,
57:03
Speaker 2: which is almost impossible.
57:07
Speaker 6: The president, if you had to.
57:10
Speaker 18: Wind all of those types properly, you will see I'm
57:15
Speaker 18: the biggest target of that trouble rouser number one for
57:20
Speaker 18: over ten years, mister Monday.
57:23
Speaker 6: In fact, the first time I met him, he will
57:26
Speaker 6: send the youth league with that gentleman. And look how
57:31
Speaker 6: he's changed. Right, we have too many deaths.
57:36
Speaker 1: But it's across the boat.
57:38
Speaker 6: It's not only white farmers.
57:41
Speaker 1: It's across the board.
57:42
Speaker 18: We need technological help. We need starlink at every little
57:48
Speaker 18: police station.
57:49
Speaker 6: We need drones.
57:52
Speaker 18: I actually got drones donated for the Peace Parks to
57:57
Speaker 18: stop elephant and lot you approaching, And he's pretty accessor
58:03
Speaker 18: stopped the I quotation because he said the United States.
58:07
Speaker 6: Would spy on us.
58:09
Speaker 18: I mean, the US basics is the ridiculum. So if
58:14
Speaker 18: we can, if you can help us. Remember, sir, you
58:18
Speaker 18: and I lived in New York in the seventies. We
58:21
Speaker 18: never thought New York could be what it became. Two commissioners,
58:26
Speaker 18: a tough mayor. We need your help to stop this
58:31
Speaker 18: awful kidding. But it's across the board. And he's right
58:35
Speaker 18: now building at Clayter House in George. I'm building three
58:39
Speaker 18: cottages for my grandchildren on a farm outside Traffernette.
58:45
Speaker 6: I often go to bed with outlocking the door.
58:48
Speaker 1: And we have a.
58:49
Speaker 18: Serious problem with illegal aiment. We stream across the border.
58:55
Speaker 18: And if you really look at our statistics a lot
58:59
Speaker 18: of these murders. Firstly, it's unemployment and illegal ideas. And
59:07
Speaker 18: then I met Vice President in Vance many years ago
59:12
Speaker 18: that Charlie Rose shown My wife loved people, and she
59:19
Speaker 18: reminded me this morning that you emphasized the devastation that
59:25
Speaker 18: occurs when big companies leave talents and cities and there's
59:32
Speaker 18: a culture of dependency that develops, and I remember you
59:36
Speaker 18: discussing it.
59:38
Speaker 6: Now that's our problem.
59:40
Speaker 18: If we don't get our economy to grow, the culture
59:43
Speaker 18: of dependency and the lawlessness will increase. I've forget been
59:48
Speaker 18: against the part at all my life, and I'm their
59:52
Speaker 18: number one target. Please just google my name and Maremma.
59:58
Speaker 6: You'll see it.
59:58
Speaker 18: So he marched on the crime is the crime is terrible, sir,
1:00:05
Speaker 18: But mister Steneration won't admit to it.
1:00:08
Speaker 6: But he runs the Western Cape where I live. One
1:00:11
Speaker 6: of the biggest murder right is in the cap Flat gangs.
1:00:17
Speaker 6: We've got gang warfare.
1:00:19
Speaker 18: Like your m Thity three. What were these guys. We've
1:00:23
Speaker 18: got equivalents there. But we need your help, sir, and
1:00:28
Speaker 18: we need e lot of technology.
1:00:31
Speaker 3: Well, one of the real areas of support is really
1:00:35
Speaker 3: an investment, and we've got to grow our economy because
1:00:39
Speaker 3: through growing the economy, we're then able to create more
1:00:42
Speaker 3: jobs because crime really thrives where there is inequality and unemployment,
1:00:51
Speaker 3: and that is one of the reasons that has brought
1:00:54
Speaker 3: us here to improve our investment relations, our trade relations
1:01:00
Speaker 3: so that we can preserve the number of jobs that
1:01:05
Speaker 3: your companies have created in South Africa by virtue of
1:01:08
Speaker 3: what we export to you.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: We are able to create.
1:01:12
Speaker 3: Up to five hundred thousand jobs in the auto industry,
1:01:15
Speaker 3: in the agricultural industry, and a number of other industries
1:01:20
Speaker 3: mining where we export things to you. And we also
1:01:24
Speaker 3: know that as South African companies invest here, you are
1:01:27
Speaker 3: also able to create jobs, so it's a mutually beneficial relationship.
1:01:32
Speaker 3: So our main, main, real reason for being here is
1:01:37
Speaker 3: to foster trade and investment so that we are able
1:01:42
Speaker 3: to grow our economy with your support, and so that
1:01:46
Speaker 3: we're also able to address all these societal problems because
1:01:51
Speaker 3: criminality thrives when people are unemployed, when they have no
1:01:55
Speaker 3: other hope to eke out a living. So that is
1:01:58
Speaker 3: what we need to resolve and will support your partnership
1:02:03
Speaker 3: with us. Is what isn't really going to give us
1:02:06
Speaker 3: a strong, strong capability to move forward.
1:02:12
Speaker 2: Excuse me, do you have anything to say? I mean,
1:02:14
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave you. You know, the guy
1:02:17
Speaker 2: won three or four majors.
1:02:19
Speaker 1: Three or four. No, I need to that's a lot,
1:02:23
Speaker 1: by the way, there is a lot, a lot of tournaments.
1:02:26
Speaker 1: You want you do you have anything to say?
1:02:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for president President from a pos I
1:02:31
Speaker 5: grew up in an area in South Africa that is.
1:02:34
Speaker 1: A farmland area, Polaguan, and there's some.
1:02:39
Speaker 5: Issues up there.
1:02:40
Speaker 1: Obviously.
1:02:41
Speaker 5: My dad was a proper develop as well as a
1:02:43
Speaker 5: part time farmer. And yeah, some of these buddy farmers
1:02:48
Speaker 5: got killed. The farm is still going, my brother's running,
1:02:53
Speaker 5: but it's a constant battle with farms trying to get
1:02:56
Speaker 5: They're trying to burn the farms down to chase your
1:03:00
Speaker 5: So it is it is a concern to try and
1:03:03
Speaker 5: make a living as a farmer. And at the end
1:03:05
Speaker 5: they you know, without farmers, there's no food on a plate.
1:03:09
Speaker 1: So we need we meet the farmers. He wouldn't do it,
1:03:12
Speaker 1: He wouldn't even want to do what you're doing. They
1:03:14
Speaker 1: love farming, they don't want to leave it. It's a struggle.
1:03:18
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know foo.
1:03:20
Speaker 5: Food and fresh water is the most important thing in life,
1:03:22
Speaker 5: you know about those two things.
1:03:24
Speaker 1: You got toppy. How is the water there?
1:03:27
Speaker 6: The water is great, obviously.
1:03:31
Speaker 5: All the water comes out of the warehole, out of
1:03:33
Speaker 5: ground for us that they but yeah, it is a
1:03:36
Speaker 5: battle to get the water out sometimes when all the
1:03:39
Speaker 5: equipment gets stolen all the time that you're trying to.
1:03:41
Speaker 1: Get sort is your family and your brother do they
1:03:43
Speaker 1: feel safe on the farm.
1:03:46
Speaker 5: They left behind electric fences, you know, try and be
1:03:49
Speaker 5: at night safe, but it is it is constant whenever
1:03:54
Speaker 5: you leave that that something could happen. And it's about
1:04:01
Speaker 5: both her ms been attacked in their houses.
1:04:03
Speaker 6: My mom's been attacked in their.
1:04:05
Speaker 1: House when she was iding.
1:04:06
Speaker 5: So it is it is uh uh difficult, but you know,
1:04:11
Speaker 5: the guys live a great life despite everything going on.
1:04:15
Speaker 3: Uh some point, I've brought along the president of the
1:04:23
Speaker 3: largest trade union in our country, sayings or loose because
1:04:28
Speaker 3: she leads many many workers, uh more than one million
1:04:32
Speaker 3: one and our.
1:04:33
Speaker 1: Two million workers.
1:04:34
Speaker 3: And maybe we should give very chance to say something
1:04:37
Speaker 3: because she's come all the way uh to join us.
1:04:40
Speaker 6: I think you very much?
1:04:41
Speaker 14: Uh?
1:04:41
Speaker 11: Is the president trumbles and president for extending the invitation
1:04:46
Speaker 11: to US as organized labor, and I must say that
1:04:49
Speaker 11: we are here to support the the the the initiative
1:04:54
Speaker 11: that is made by our our government with UH business
1:04:58
Speaker 11: of course is organized LIB. We've been coming to Washington
1:05:01
Speaker 11: on their goal trade relations in the previous regime and
1:05:08
Speaker 11: I think at the center of it all for me,
1:05:11
Speaker 11: it is exactly what mister Rupette have said, the importance
1:05:15
Speaker 11: of us growing the economy. We have always emphasized when
1:05:19
Speaker 11: we were here and kept on coming and negotiating on
1:05:22
Speaker 11: a pover that the six hundred US companies that are
1:05:26
Speaker 11: based in South Africa, as you said, President Drama Pasta,
1:05:29
Speaker 11: five hundred thousand jobs will be wiped out. We need
1:05:32
Speaker 11: more foreign direct investment in our country. We are not
1:05:37
Speaker 11: just talking about those that will lose employment, but we're
1:05:39
Speaker 11: talking about over forty percent of people that are unemployed
1:05:43
Speaker 11: that have we have no hope of ever finding job.
1:05:47
Speaker 11: And we think that correctly as they have said that
1:05:50
Speaker 11: we need to deg the issue of poor US board
1:05:52
Speaker 11: US in our country so that everyone that comes in
1:05:55
Speaker 11: is documented. We also need to and I would have
1:06:00
Speaker 11: love thought that the Minister will address the issue of
1:06:03
Speaker 11: land expropriation and how the police works in South Africa. Recently, President,
1:06:08
Speaker 11: as you were preparing to come here on the US
1:06:12
Speaker 11: in I think it was on Nada, there was handover
1:06:16
Speaker 11: of farms and white farmers were saying, we are donating
1:06:23
Speaker 11: the land. But also there's a willing by a willing
1:06:26
Speaker 11: seller in South Africa, so there is no expropriation without compensation,
1:06:34
Speaker 11: but it is a willing by a willing seller, and
1:06:36
Speaker 11: that white farmer was even saying that they the government
1:06:41
Speaker 11: is even paying more in buying the land than what
1:06:45
Speaker 11: the land is worth off. And I think those are
1:06:48
Speaker 11: the realities President, that we must say that we need
1:06:52
Speaker 11: to address, of course, but also the importance of agriculture.
1:06:56
Speaker 1: Lead to our goal.
1:06:58
Speaker 11: People rely on the and I think as a retief
1:07:01
Speaker 11: upset for for for survival and and and living.
1:07:05
Speaker 1: But lastly for me, President, is also the issue of
1:07:09
Speaker 1: the crimes that distance.
1:07:11
Speaker 11: There is no doubt about it that we are a
1:07:15
Speaker 11: violent nation, you know, for a number of reasons, and
1:07:18
Speaker 11: we're not condoning anything. But also if you go into
1:07:22
Speaker 11: the rural areas where black majority are, you would see
1:07:28
Speaker 11: women elderly being raped, being killed, being met and these
1:07:33
Speaker 11: are black elderly women that would be found throat slits,
1:07:39
Speaker 11: raped multiple times and all of that and the problem
1:07:43
Speaker 11: in South Africa. It is not necessarily about.
1:07:45
Speaker 1: Race, but it is about crime.
1:07:47
Speaker 11: And we think that we are here to say, how
1:07:50
Speaker 11: do we both nations work together to reset, to really
1:07:56
Speaker 11: talk about investment, but also help us in how we
1:08:00
Speaker 11: can have the technology and everything that is needed. The
1:08:03
Speaker 11: president to to really address the the the the the
1:08:06
Speaker 11: the liberals of crime that we had in our country.
1:08:09
Speaker 1: Did the rank penside is a very slong word. I'm
1:08:16
Speaker 1: wondering if you meet up your mind as to whether
1:08:18
Speaker 1: you believe thatenocide is a crime. So the hoover you
1:08:21
Speaker 1: s thousand, if you tell me in your mind why
1:08:23
Speaker 1: by president I'm upo secures.
1:08:25
Speaker 2: Pays Well, I haven't made up my mind. I hate
1:08:28
Speaker 2: to see it, uh from the same point of South Africa.
1:08:31
Speaker 2: But also you know, I'm trying to save lives. I'm
1:08:33
Speaker 2: working with Russia and Ukraine.
1:08:35
Speaker 1: I don't have to do that. It's not our war
1:08:37
Speaker 1: was started by other people.
1:08:40
Speaker 2: UH, something belonged by our past administration and we would
1:08:43
Speaker 2: have never happened if I were president. But I'm trying
1:08:45
Speaker 2: to save lives and no matter where uh Rwanda, I
1:08:50
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with Rwanda and the Congo. But
1:08:53
Speaker 2: I felt I had a very talented person in this
1:08:56
Speaker 2: administration and I sent him there and he d an
1:09:00
Speaker 2: unbelievable job.
1:09:01
Speaker 7: I think.
1:09:01
Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to find out, but he's done
1:09:04
Speaker 2: the hardest part of the job. It should it should
1:09:06
Speaker 2: happen if I can save lives, I want to save
1:09:09
Speaker 2: the lives. If it's in Africa, that's great, If it's
1:09:11
Speaker 2: in Europe, if it's wherever it may be. And it's
1:09:15
Speaker 2: a very small investment to do compared to what the
1:09:19
Speaker 2: consequences are, so I hope we can do something. Look,
1:09:24
Speaker 2: I have so many friends these two men. Have great
1:09:26
Speaker 2: admiration for them because I know what they do for
1:09:28
Speaker 2: a living, and that's a very hard living. Going from
1:09:32
Speaker 2: city to city, from country to country and hitting a
1:09:36
Speaker 2: ball three hundred and fifty yards like they do and
1:09:41
Speaker 2: getting the ball in the hall is a very tough
1:09:43
Speaker 2: with lots of people watching, right, it's a very tough living.
1:09:48
Speaker 2: You know, they're champions. I respect champions, and I respect
1:09:52
Speaker 2: very much, and I think the country is very lucky.
1:09:54
Speaker 2: They really wanted to be here.
1:09:56
Speaker 6: They could be.
1:09:56
Speaker 1: Elsewhere, they could be on a beautiful fairway someplace and
1:10:00
Speaker 1: to be here from Africa in South Africa. How important
1:10:11
Speaker 1: is it for the United States to be at l
1:10:14
Speaker 1: G twenty, summits in.
1:10:17
Speaker 6: Relationship the countries you've just heard or what has been
1:10:21
Speaker 6: said to you?
1:10:22
Speaker 1: Just now?
1:10:23
Speaker 6: Are you coming and.
1:10:24
Speaker 2: Are you preparings of count So without the United States,
1:10:27
Speaker 2: the G twenty, just like the G seven used to
1:10:30
Speaker 2: be the G eight, but brilliantly they threw Russia out.
1:10:33
Speaker 1: Would have been a lot better if Russia was in.
1:10:35
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people would say, oh that
1:10:36
Speaker 2: so not because if Russia was in, you probably wouldn't
1:10:39
Speaker 2: have this.
1:10:39
Speaker 1: War, and if you had a different president, you wouldn't
1:10:42
Speaker 1: have the war either. But we have a G seven.
1:10:45
Speaker 1: It's important that the United States is at both of them.
1:10:48
Speaker 1: I think without the United States it's aid I I
1:10:51
Speaker 1: really believe it's not very important. It's not it's not
1:10:54
Speaker 1: the same meaning.
1:10:58
Speaker 3: As I said to President Trump, the US really originated
1:11:02
Speaker 3: the G twenty, and it's important that the United States
1:11:08
Speaker 3: continues to play a key role in the G twenty.
1:11:12
Speaker 3: And we are privileged to be the president of the
1:11:16
Speaker 3: G twenty. But we are even overjoined that we are
1:11:19
Speaker 3: going to hand over to the United States, where the originators,
1:11:24
Speaker 3: and for that reason, I expect the United States to
1:11:28
Speaker 3: continue play the leadership role in the G twenty together
1:11:32
Speaker 3: with other countries. And I've said when I initially spoke
1:11:37
Speaker 3: to President Trump on the phone, I wanted to come
1:11:40
Speaker 3: to South Africa for a state visit and.
1:11:42
Speaker 1: I also wanted to come and participate in the G twenty.
1:11:47
Speaker 3: And I want to gladly hand over to President Trump
1:11:51
Speaker 3: to take the leadership of the G twenty forward in November.
1:11:55
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
1:12:00
Speaker 7: I don't like to take one.
1:12:01
Speaker 1: You don't want to leave. You don't us.
1:12:04
Speaker 19: So everybody think they may take you, they take youthing
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Speaker 19: you here, guys, thank you.
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