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Luke’s Diner: Everybody Loves Food · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do.
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  Speaker 1: Luke's Diner with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey Everybody,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I'm all in podcast, one of one productions
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  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast Luke's Diner. One on one interview
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  Speaker 1: with the one and only and it's a special treat today.
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  Speaker 1: A mister Phil Rosenthal who made the world laugh with
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  Speaker 1: Everybody Loves Raymond. He created it and now makes us
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  Speaker 1: all hungry with his hit show Somebody Feed Phil on Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: Phil travels the globe using food as a bridge to culture,
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  Speaker 1: connection and joy. He's a James Beard Award winner, a
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  Speaker 1: champion of restaurants, and someone who turns strangers into family
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  Speaker 1: one bite at a time. Phil and I are going
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  Speaker 1: to be discussing season two, episode ten, the brace Bridge Dinner.
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  Speaker 1: We saw foods of the nineteenth century like rolls, roast chicken, rice,
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  Speaker 1: and green beans, but today we're taking it back to
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  Speaker 1: the twenty first century and straight you Phil, welcome, Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: love you, and van very accomplished. So you created the
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  Speaker 1: show and you were you were the.
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  Speaker 2: Showrunner absolutely and I stayed all nine years and then
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  Speaker 2: when we decided it was enough, already we had two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and ten episodes. We'd said everything we wanted to say,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, there's this old show biz actium you
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  Speaker 2: should get off the stage before somebody says, hey, you
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  Speaker 2: should get off the stage. And I'm a student of TV,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, there were shows that I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to emulate, like Mary Tyllamore, which I think is the
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  Speaker 2: high water mark of camera sitcoms.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Did seven years, I believe, and said we're leaving now,
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  Speaker 2: and we did nine years, and they were going to
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  Speaker 2: back up the truck. But you know what, right, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't pay. It doesn't pay to take that money, because
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  Speaker 2: that's people always our short term goal. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: think you got to grab this nap. But I truly
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  Speaker 2: believe that by leaving before we became lousy, that the
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  Speaker 2: show had a more lasting value. And so next year
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  Speaker 2: we're on TV thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: And all those syndication deals and it's still on the
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  Speaker 1: air and people can can watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it's on Peacock and Paramount Plus and IFC
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  Speaker 2: and TV Land and local stations and around the world.
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  Speaker 2: So we couldn't be luckier. But we really feel right
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  Speaker 2: there were two factors to the longevity of the show.
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  Speaker 2: One was pre planned, actually both were pre planned. The
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  Speaker 2: first was, don't make so many topical jokes. Don't have
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  Speaker 2: jokes that will date the show. The only thing that
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  Speaker 2: dates the show maybe is the the you know, clothing
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  Speaker 2: and hairstyle, maybe right. But other than that, it's a
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  Speaker 2: you want to be timeless, not timely. Yes, and that
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  Speaker 2: I learned from shows like Mary and Taxi. You know,
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  Speaker 2: to me, the thing that makes all the family, which
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  Speaker 2: is another one of the shows I tried to emulate. Certainly,
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  Speaker 2: they were topical because they were dealing with the politics
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  Speaker 2: of the dead right, But what makes the show endure
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  Speaker 2: are the personal family relationships that are evergreen and completely universe.
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  Speaker 1: M Yeah, beautiful stuff. Yeah. I think you and I
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  Speaker 1: grew up in the same era.
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're born nineteen sixty. I'm a little bit
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  Speaker 1: older than you are.
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  Speaker 2: You don't look it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm sixty six.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, you got one year on that's not.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, one of my favorite shows from that
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  Speaker 1: time period was and I ended up in an acting
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  Speaker 1: class with her at Carnegie Hall and it just was
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  Speaker 1: It was as surreal an experience to be with her
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  Speaker 1: in that acting class and Louise Lasser. Oh, Mary Hartman,
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  Speaker 1: Mary Hartman, that's unbelievable and just and I mean just
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  Speaker 1: the fact that that show even got a chance, you know,
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  Speaker 1: normally just brilliant Norman, right is he?
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  Speaker 2: Is he?
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  Speaker 1: Your guy? Is Norman Lear is the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I say that TV, all of TV history can be
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  Speaker 2: divided in.
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  Speaker 1: To B N and A N before Norman after you.
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  Speaker 2: Got it, because all the Family really changed everything. Before
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  Speaker 2: all the Family shows were kind of silly, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: kind of you know, fantastical by dream of Genie. Did
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  Speaker 2: you know that big, high concept things, very entertaining show
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  Speaker 2: and it took him three tries to get it on
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  Speaker 2: the air?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Film three pilots and uh here it is that changed
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  Speaker 2: not just TV but America. And you couldn't do that
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  Speaker 2: show now, mm hmmm, right, Certain certain presidents might have
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  Speaker 2: a problem with this type of show criticizing. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: at the time Nixon, he was on Nixon's enemies list
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  Speaker 2: for that really, Yeah, for criticizing daring to criticize the
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  Speaker 2: president of the United States for exicizing free speech familiar
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah, Well, let's not go there.
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  Speaker 1: Now, well, we can add Phil Rosenthal to the list
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  Speaker 1: of greats who have brought something quite unique to the
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  Speaker 1: American culture TV culture, and you had, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: gift of Ray Romano. When you first saw him? Did
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  Speaker 1: you first see him in a stand up situation?
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  Speaker 2: I first saw him. He had been a stand up
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  Speaker 2: for twelve years. I never saw him until he got
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  Speaker 2: a break. He got to do six minutes on David Letterman,
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  Speaker 2: and that very appearance. After six minutes, Letterman said there
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  Speaker 2: should be a sitcom for that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Letterman had to deal with CBS. They set about looking
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  Speaker 2: for writers to create a show for Ray, and that's
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  Speaker 2: how we met. He was going blind dates with different
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  Speaker 2: writers in Hollywood. I don't think I was his first choice.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I'm sure I wasn't. I think he wanted
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  Speaker 2: somebody from Friends, which was the hot show at the time, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I was coming off of writing for a Coach,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is admittedly not as hip or cool
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  Speaker 2: as Friends. But turns out the Friends guy couldn't make it,
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  Speaker 2: and I got the gig so nice.
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  Speaker 1: And Letterman was he was tough in the beginning, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean his I mean that was that was a
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  Speaker 1: gauntlet that you had to go through to get through
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  Speaker 1: that interview with him, because he was merciless if you
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  Speaker 1: weren't sharp and on it and making him laugh. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was tough on people.
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  Speaker 2: It was the strangest interview I've ever had. I went,
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  Speaker 2: and so I go to New York. They say, got
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  Speaker 2: to meet now that you know Ray likes, you got
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  Speaker 2: to meet Letterman. Okay, through it to meet Letterman the
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  Speaker 2: show and I go up to the sixth floor I
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  Speaker 2: believe it was, and they go in his office and
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  Speaker 2: his office is facing the wrong way. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: when you open the door to someone's office, the desks
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  Speaker 2: is facing you right right. How about you enter the
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  Speaker 2: office and now you're behind his desk. He's facing the
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  Speaker 2: wrong way. Very odd. You know mafia people, they don't
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  Speaker 2: have their back to the door. No, no, no, he did.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he wanted to be taken out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know us, that's certainly, But how.
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  Speaker 2: About this for weird. He says, have a seat and
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  Speaker 2: gestures for me to sit behind his desk. I said,
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  Speaker 2: not behind the desk. He said, absolutely behind the desk,
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  Speaker 2: and I sit there. No one offers to take my coat.
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  Speaker 2: I had come from outside in the winter. I'm sitting
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  Speaker 2: here with my coat in my arm and he and
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  Speaker 2: two of his producers from Worldwide Pants are sitting to
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  Speaker 2: sit me. And I said, the first thing I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to do is throw you all the hell out of
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  Speaker 2: my office. And this is a laugh. You just laughed
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  Speaker 2: ten times more than they left. The comedy people who
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  Speaker 2: are as cool as these guys are, they laugh.
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  Speaker 1: Like this when you say something, right, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Letterman was leaning a chair up against one wall where
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  Speaker 2: the stereo was and I mentioned this because the entire meeting,
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  Speaker 2: heavy metal music was not just playing lasting oh gosh,
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  Speaker 2: and they did not turn it down.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know if this was you know, between sitting
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  Speaker 2: me behind the desk and having this music playing. Was
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  Speaker 2: it a test of wills? Was it a test of
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  Speaker 2: whether I had the fortitude to endure hardship or or
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  Speaker 2: awkward circumstances, because it certainly was awkward, and I just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, put my head down. And they asked, so,
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  Speaker 2: what's the what's the show going to be? And I said,
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  Speaker 2: I think I want to base it on Ray's actual
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  Speaker 2: life and what I don't know about the personalities from
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  Speaker 2: his family. I'm going to fill in with the characters
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  Speaker 2: from my family, so I know what I'm writing about, right,
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  Speaker 2: And they kind of nodded like this, and then he
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  Speaker 2: gave me these words of advice, just don't embarrass us.
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  Speaker 2: I said, that's nice. Said, that's what I tell my
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  Speaker 2: kids when I drop them off at school. So I left.
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  Speaker 2: They had greeted me as if I had the job already.
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  Speaker 2: They just wanted to like make sure. But after I
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  Speaker 2: got a call from my agent saying, congratulations, you passed
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  Speaker 2: the audition. That was the That was a meeting, and
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  Speaker 2: I guess maybe all that stuff was a test. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, right. In the nine years that followed, I
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  Speaker 2: spoke to David Letterman a grand total of five minutes. Really, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but he did call to congratulate us, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: we got picked up the second season. He even did
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  Speaker 2: a top ten list for our rat party, which was great, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know about Raymond. And then and then at the end,
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  Speaker 2: he was very sweet and very generous in his praise
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  Speaker 2: for the show. I think he was very proud of
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  Speaker 2: the show actually. And then I got a chance to
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  Speaker 2: call him when he was going off the air, and
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I called him maybe two days before
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  Speaker 2: he went off the air, I left a message. That's
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  Speaker 2: all I wanted to do, was leave a message to
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  Speaker 2: thank him for my great opportunity, right and how how
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  Speaker 2: much I loved him and the sh He called me
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  Speaker 2: right back and we talked for twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice.
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  Speaker 2: He couldn't have been nicer. And I've seen him since
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  Speaker 2: and he's so kind and nice. I think having a
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  Speaker 2: kid actually softened him. I'll do it right, And now
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  Speaker 2: he literally looks like Santa Claus and he's just you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a freaking.
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  Speaker 1: Icon, one of the great stand up comedians.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also change TV.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did, He really did.
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  Speaker 2: So it was an honor to, you know, be under
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  Speaker 2: that ages and just be associated with him in any way.
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  Speaker 1: Would you ever get back into the business in a
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  Speaker 1: real way with a new show or are you done?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I would, but if the business doesn't seem to be.
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  Speaker 1: There anymore, it doesn't or doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: After Raymond, after graduating from that experience nine years, I
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  Speaker 2: wrote another sitcom. I thought, that's what I'm been put
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  Speaker 2: on earth to do. Everybody wanted me to and then
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  Speaker 2: nobody bought it. And then I wrote another one and
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  Speaker 2: nobody wanted it, and I'm like, what's going on? And
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  Speaker 2: they said, well, you know your style of sitcom, it's
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  Speaker 2: not really what they want. I said, what do they want?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they want?
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  Speaker 2: They want friends? Everybody wanted friends. They wanted the young,
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  Speaker 2: hip edgy show. I said, well you got the right
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  Speaker 2: guy and mister hip and Edgy. So I just knocked
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  Speaker 2: around for years, frustrated trying to write sitcoms.
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  Speaker 1: So they don't want family, no generational, they don't want that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's stupid because the building blocks of television has
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  Speaker 2: always been the well made family sitcoms. There wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: another family sitcom after Raymond until Modern Family.
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  Speaker 1: Five years later, right right?
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  Speaker 2: And it had to be modern right right, It had
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  Speaker 2: to tick all the boxes right for Actually, I guess
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  Speaker 2: they would call it hip and edgy because they had
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  Speaker 2: a gay couple, they had a Latina mixed marriage, they
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  Speaker 2: had you know, multi generation was it was very cleverly
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  Speaker 2: done and fantastic. But that's what it took to get
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  Speaker 2: another family sitcom. Name the last great one after that.
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  Speaker 2: That's twenty five years ago, right, God?
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  Speaker 1: Is that long ago? Modern Family started?
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  Speaker 2: They just don't value them. And I believe I know why.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's because executives themselves personally want to be
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  Speaker 2: associated with young, hip and edgy, yeah, and not the family.
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  Speaker 2: So what did I do? I had this dream of
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  Speaker 2: doing a travel from and so I switched lanes, which
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  Speaker 2: you know, the business. They don't really understand or want
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  Speaker 2: that because that's a tougher sell. We know, he's the
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  Speaker 2: sitcom guy. Okay, now you're going to be in a
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  Speaker 2: travel show. You have no business doing that. And it
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  Speaker 2: took me ten years to get really yeah. And I
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  Speaker 2: first started on PBS. The show was called I'll Haboohil's having.
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  Speaker 2: I did six episodes on PBS. We did very well,
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  Speaker 2: but then they couldn't afford to do the show anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And then thank god, this new company called Netflix was
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  Speaker 2: coming along and they liked it.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, okay, all right.
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  Speaker 2: And then we changed it to Somebody Phil.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a great title.
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  Speaker 2: See, it's so great. I love the title too, because
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  Speaker 2: it cannotes someone who needs to be taken care of.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, somebody feed Phil. I mean right there, it's vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: It's you get to get you understand my character. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I sold the show with one line. This is the
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  Speaker 2: long I'm exactly like Anthony Bourdain if he was afraid
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  Speaker 2: of everything.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. I mean, you can't lose. You just can't lose.
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  Speaker 1: That's so good. All right, So let's get into this
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. This show you've eaten in all these
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  Speaker 1: incredible places all over the world. Yes, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: talking a little bit about why the why you did this,
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  Speaker 1: But really, I mean it was this. It was this
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  Speaker 1: frustration with the business uh and and and not being
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  Speaker 1: able to get something made after winning so many Emmy
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  Speaker 1: Awards that you just decided like, Hey, I'm just going
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  Speaker 1: to do my thing, and I want to travel. I
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  Speaker 1: want to combine everything I love or a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things I love, and do my own show and control
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  Speaker 1: my destiny pretty much and be my my own sort
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  Speaker 1: of boss. And you know that kind of thing. Is that?
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  Speaker 1: Is that how it came about.
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  Speaker 2: I was having such a hard time that I thought,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm going to knock my head against this show
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  Speaker 2: business wall, why not pick a spot in the wall
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  Speaker 2: that I would really like? So my ideal show is
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  Speaker 2: this what you're seeing now. We're the longest running show,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, original series on Netflix. Eight. This is
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  Speaker 2: the eighth season that coming in, and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: because I followed a dream that ten years it took
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  Speaker 2: to get it. And I'm not exaggerating ten years. Was
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  Speaker 2: it worth it? Yes, because look at me now, I'm on,
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  Speaker 2: Luke Stunner.
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  Speaker 1: You really made it.
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  Speaker 2: I've made it. That's how I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Well. You don't just bring anybody on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I think you know the fact that
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  Speaker 2: anyone would want to talk to me about my career.
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  Speaker 2: I feel incredibly lucky, incredibly lucky. That's what drives everything
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  Speaker 2: when you wake up and the baseline is gratitude. You're
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  Speaker 2: in a good place. Right, So look what I get
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think I feel twenty five years in
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  Speaker 1: and this like phenomenon of a show? Just keep growing
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  Speaker 1: and growing. And that's right. I wake up every day
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  Speaker 1: on how did this happen? This is so great?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? But what I tell listeners or any any audience
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  Speaker 2: that I run into, or any person who asks how
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  Speaker 2: do you do it? If you make something a priority
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  Speaker 2: in your life, you don't rest until it happens.
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  Speaker 1: Right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's not to say there's anything wrong with finding another
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  Speaker 2: priority and saying I'm dumping that first idea, right right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, for example, having a family, Okay, but I
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  Speaker 2: didn't care about my family.
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  Speaker 1: No, I.
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  Speaker 2: Had a priority. One was family and one was the show.
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  Speaker 2: And now guess what I get to combine both. The
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  Speaker 2: family comes along with me. Right, that's beautiful, right, So
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  Speaker 2: that that's really nice. They can't come on every episode,
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  Speaker 2: although I wish they could, because they have something called
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  Speaker 2: their own lives. Right, But I love doing it with
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  Speaker 2: my wife whenever she can. The audience loves her, and
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  Speaker 2: the kids are cute too.
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  Speaker 1: I have to stay right, let me ask you this, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how do you pick the restaurant? Yeah, or food stops
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  Speaker 1: for the show?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I google best place to eat Amsterdam? Right, And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. And then I just don't go by
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  Speaker 2: one review. I start pruss referencing. You know, when you
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  Speaker 2: google anything, not to plug Google, but any engine, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff comes up, not just their recommendation, but
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  Speaker 2: all the links to all the let's say, local magazine influencers,
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  Speaker 2: Instagram things, reviews of all kinds. And when a restaurant
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  Speaker 2: starts popping up several times, maybe there's something there. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I do have something that maybe you don't have, which
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  Speaker 2: is a production company in New York and they used
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  Speaker 2: to be Bourdain's production company, and so they have fixers
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  Speaker 2: literally all over the world because he was on for
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  Speaker 2: eighteen years. And so I'll send them my little list
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  Speaker 2: that I'm thinking of and they'll say, oh, that's not
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  Speaker 2: the best pancakes in Amsterdam, this is the best, right.
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  Speaker 2: And then we do something that I love, which is
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  Speaker 2: we leave room in the schedule. When we're shooting. We
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  Speaker 2: shoot for a week in each place. We leave room
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  Speaker 2: in the schedule for serendipity, for the fine stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Usually we'll be doing a scene with a chef and
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: they'll recommend another place and we'll check that out right
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: if it sounds fantastic, and you know what, those are
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  Speaker 2: my favorite things. That's most spontaneous. That's a lesson for
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: life too. If you're going on vacation, don't over plan.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Be in the moment. How many times does this happen
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  Speaker 2: where you know you had a reservation somewhere in Europe
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  Speaker 2: and you didn't get there, you got there late, where
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: it's raining you can't get there, or other places closed
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: suddenly for no reason. Right now, what, let's just go
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  Speaker 2: in here. It's not we're tired, We've been traveled for
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: eighteen hours. Let's just I'm just hungry. Let's just eat.
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  Speaker 4: You go in meally your life, right, that happens right, sure,
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  Speaker 4: so I love that.
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  Speaker 2: That's how we do it.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you do it, man. Yeah, and you're in
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: production right now on No, see, you're not right now.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I'm on this publicity tour for season eight, which comes
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: out the eighteenth, June eighteenth.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, June eighteenth, Netflix the Tops on Netflix June eighteenth,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that's coming up. Yeah, everybody should check it out.
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  Speaker 2: I got a clarterdam Hamstersterdam Tablisi, which is the former
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Soviet Georgia where they invent did wine seven thousand years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Ah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Wow, Wild Australia. We do Sydney and Adelaide. In this
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: episode we go to Manila and the Philippines. We did
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: two shows in America, Boston and Las Vegas, and Guatemala
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and San Sebastian and the Basque Country in Spain.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: You're all over the place, all over the world. That's fantastic.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It is fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It's fantastic. If you were to come into a Luke's diner. Okay, yes, yes,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they don't exist yet, but we're working on it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Good. I'm working on a diner myself, you know, are
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: you really? Yeah? I'm going to open a diner this song.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you. I love diners. I was inspired by
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a diner in Biddeford Main when we shot the main
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: episode called the Pales Diner. And it's a very simple diner,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the one in Biddeford. It was just elevated by great
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: chefs coming in and using fantastic ingredients, but nothing fancy.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It's still bacon and eggs, waffles, bacons, burger, but the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: best of those things I ever had. I said, oh
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: my god, I want to do something like this in
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: my neighborhood where I live. And I got a great
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: chef to go in with me. And her name is
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Nancy Silverton. Have you heard of her?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry I have not.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh. Oh, she's invented Lebray a bakery, oh gosh, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Moza in La. She's a spectacular chef.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. And so that's an.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I'm naming after my parents, Max and Helens.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you. But tell me about Lukes di Well.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you if you were to come
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: into the diner. Yes, what would you order?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I would order breakfast. I love a diner breakfast. I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: love eggs or punts. I love a soft scramble like
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: my father. My father lived for very soft scrambled eggs.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a soft scramble guy. I just had, Yes, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just had myself. I have it every morning. I love it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: It's great and good for you. And and he he
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: would ask my mother, my eggs, lovey? Are they fluffy?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I've been making you eggs for sixty years. You think
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I'm just checking.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: They gotta be fluffy?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Man on his tombstone and I am not kidding. On
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: his tombstone, it says, are my eggs fluffy?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Come on? That's beautiful. That's beautiful.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And next his tombstone is hers, and it says, I'm
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: listening the opera, which was her preod occupation.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I wish we had more time. Will you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: please come back?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: What have you want? But wait, you were gonna You're
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: gonna tell me something, or you were saying, if I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: come into Luke's Diner, what my order is?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: You just said you love breakfast. You just said pancakes
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and all that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I thought we were going to talk more
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: about that diner. But that's okay. Uh I. I can't
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: wait for your diner. I'm a student of diners.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Now, I know me too, right, do you.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Have a go to in LA? Where are you? Well?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: No, I'm outside of La now. Yeah, we got out
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and you know, the middle of COVID so you know
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: we wait, we're out. We're out more towards the beach. Okay, yeah,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: we we We got out in the wide open spaces.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Is there a diner, Not that I have found as yet,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but there will be.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: You know, they're disappearing from America, Yeah, not for long.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: With that is you lose a sense of community.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, one hundred percent.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: And with the loss of community, maybe you lose the country.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to solve everything diner.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, Hey, we do what we can, right, And that's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: an important piece of it, right there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: You think globally and act locally.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: That's right, brilliant. Please come back, Phil, please, please please.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think we're just scratching the surface of the conversation here,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: scratch and and we'll we'll a lot more time next time.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So everybody watch. Somebody feed Phil out now on Netflix
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: season eight. What a guy, what a talent. Thank you,
• 26:45
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• 26:49
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• 26:53
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