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Kid Rock, RFK Jr. and the Tony Soprano of PORN (w. Boomer Banks) · Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast with Michael Foote & Mélissa Malebranche

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Brief Recess. I'm Michael Foote, I'm Melissa Albranch.
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  Speaker 1: Today we're going to be talking about planking and how
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  Speaker 1: it foreshadows the collapse of society. Were to talk about
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  Speaker 1: presidential theater, the RFK kid rock music video, how we
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  Speaker 1: made all the frat boys days by giving them a
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  Speaker 1: dab rig cathartic trash, talk about Christy Noman, Don Junior,
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  Speaker 1: and Pam Bondi. We're going to have an interview with
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  Speaker 1: prolific adult film starring musician Boomer Banks and all of
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  Speaker 1: the tales from the Dams are going to answer your
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  Speaker 1: questions to stick around. Were you ever smoker? Okay, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: mom's watching. No, you never smoked.
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  Speaker 2: No, in high school, like everybody out by.
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  Speaker 1: The dumpster, no smoked. We would to drive around in
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  Speaker 1: front of us.
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  Speaker 2: To steal my dad's cigarettes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you told me that. Yeah, my dad.
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  Speaker 3: Smoked marbo red hard pack and then he moved over
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  Speaker 3: to the soft gold pack.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah it is. It's you know, it gives a
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  Speaker 1: little it's a nice er, it's so smoother, Okay, healthy.
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  Speaker 3: What's really interesting about the smoking that I did is
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  Speaker 3: that I did it because everybody else was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like you didn't even like it, not that much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about this with Karen and Kelly Martha Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: and when I was out in La, Yeah, and we
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  Speaker 1: were we talked a lot about smoking because it was
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  Speaker 1: like what we were doing back then. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this generation is all vaping. It's not about cigarettes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually always really surprised when I see a young
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  Speaker 3: person smoking a cigarette.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like oh yeah, wow, oh okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so's keeping that alive.
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  Speaker 1: I think the boys from Heated Rivalry are smokers, and
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  Speaker 1: I see them like on my Instagram. I think so
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  Speaker 1: not to spread information but miss information, but I do
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  Speaker 1: feel like maybe at least one of them is okay.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, someone sent me like a through social media.
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  Speaker 1: They sent me a gift and it was like all
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  Speaker 1: this smoking paraphernalia marijuana though.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, well that's I think that's different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah definitely. But it was like really complicated
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  Speaker 1: stuff and I'm not that serious about marijuana.
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  Speaker 2: Not did they send you actual marijuana or did they
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  Speaker 2: send you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, no, interstate interstate commerce. Oh no, no no no.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like like a bong and it was
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  Speaker 1: like a bong, but it was like very modern looking,
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  Speaker 1: and then something else was like it was like a
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  Speaker 1: metal thing. For I think people do like a wax
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  Speaker 1: or some sort of resin that they smoke, and I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm really not that serious about it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like we are running out of
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  Speaker 2: shit to do to ourselves?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: We're running out of shit to do to ourselves. We're
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  Speaker 2: running out of things to talk about, We're running out
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  Speaker 2: of different ways to like alter our appearances, things to do.
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  Speaker 1: When we started planking back in like two thousand and nine,
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  Speaker 1: that was when we were like, can't shut it down,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's a wrap planking the kids, it's over. That
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  Speaker 1: was it. When I saw an Australian schoolgirl planking on
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  Speaker 1: a car on a Toyota. Yeah, no, that was when
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  Speaker 1: we ran out of shit to do.
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  Speaker 4: Did you do it?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 1: I talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot though, so you never did it?
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  Speaker 1: No? I was too old. I wasn't going to plank
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  Speaker 1: in lawsco on I write a criminal law? No, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I also planking in the courtroom, your honor excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed like a really weird and uncomfortable thing to do, right, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: your entire body?
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  Speaker 1: What do you wait with your face when you're planking?
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  Speaker 1: Get in the comments if you've ever planked, and let
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  Speaker 1: us know where'd you put you?
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  Speaker 2: Send us a picture. I need to see this.
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  Speaker 3: But let's let's not reintroduce that to people. Don't plank,
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  Speaker 3: it's you look stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into a sidebar. How's your week, bend? What's happened?
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  Speaker 1: And what's going on? What's the tea? What's what's what's happening?
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  Speaker 3: And I decided that I was going to sort of
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  Speaker 3: like disengage from the news last week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh how'd that go? Bright as we're entering a war
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  Speaker 1: with a ron? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Because of that exactly? Okay, I was like, I'm tired.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm tired of I'm tired of a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things, but I am tired of like the incessant
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  Speaker 2: cruelty and the violence.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, and you.
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  Speaker 3: Know it's almost always the people who have the most
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  Speaker 3: to lose who lose more.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I have a therapist once say that the human
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  Speaker 1: brain has not evolved to a place where it can
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  Speaker 1: comprehend mass scale suffering at all times, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're witnessing every time we look at our phone, every
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  Speaker 1: time we turn on the news, we're watching other people
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  Speaker 1: suffer at a grand scale. Our brains really aren't equipped
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  Speaker 1: to handle that at all times without grace.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing is is that we now have more
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  Speaker 3: access to the violence, so that now I'm seeing pictures right,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't want want to see like another beheaded child.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying, Because you can't unsee
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  Speaker 3: those things. Yeah, And it's the kind of thing that
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  Speaker 3: I will think about later, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe that's a good thing, right, Maybe it's good
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  Speaker 3: that I'm thinking about it, But, like it said.
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  Speaker 1: Something about your humanity. If you're if it's bothering you,
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  Speaker 1: like I think that's important.
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  Speaker 3: If I get to a place where I don't give
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  Speaker 3: a shit, that's a bigger that's.
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  Speaker 1: The more concerning. I think a lot of war reporters
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  Speaker 1: talk about this where they do end up getting so
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  Speaker 1: disassociated that they can't but I also understand it bothers
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  Speaker 1: them anymore.
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  Speaker 3: That's a way to protect yourself, right, If you're constantly
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  Speaker 3: seeing those things, then if you are constantly being upset about.
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  Speaker 1: It, brain's protecting you from the one. I saw something
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  Speaker 1: today that ninety five percent of Google searches of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein files have gone down since the war in Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Like the distraction is working. Yeah. See, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to shut up about it.
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  Speaker 2: No, and we shouldn't. We shouldn't shut up about it.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, the other thing that I'm tired of,
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  Speaker 3: I'm tired of watching the presidence of the United States
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  Speaker 3: be like.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so existing with weird rashes on his neck and
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  Speaker 1: handing and.
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  Speaker 2: The disgust is so overwhelming. Yes, I'm tired of how
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  Speaker 2: crooked he is. Yeah, I'm tired of just little sort
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  Speaker 2: of like how disgusting he is to look at.
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  Speaker 1: I'm tired of like how he's still pretending to kind
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  Speaker 1: of be a president, like he's giving a State of
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  Speaker 1: the Union address as if everything's normal, as if his
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  Speaker 1: approval ratings aren't twenty nine percent or I mean ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: So, but the reason he has to do that, right,
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  Speaker 3: because in order to sort of like that's the part
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  Speaker 3: of the grift, yes, right, is that I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: act like there's nothing going on, and on the contrary,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you my numbers have never been
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  Speaker 3: better everybody loves me.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing a phenomenal job. This is incredible, really incredible,
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  Speaker 2: And it's the.
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  Speaker 1: Speech they give you, like right before layoffs out of company.
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  Speaker 2: Our numbers are nothing worried about. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just all getting.
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  Speaker 1: Laid off from society.
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  Speaker 2: Christineoan and like, oh what Pete what's his name? It's
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  Speaker 2: just too much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just who's the guy who did like one
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  Speaker 1: pull up? He's like the head it's like the head
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  Speaker 1: of defense for America was I think it was Pete
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  Speaker 1: Seth he did like one pull up?
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  Speaker 2: All right, you know what, let's.
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  Speaker 1: Take a break. Let's get into your algorithm is showing
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  Speaker 1: because this is straight from your algorithm, I think. And
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  Speaker 1: it came up of mind too.
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  Speaker 3: This is the other thing that I'm sick and tired of. Right,
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  Speaker 3: that weird ass video that RFK did with kid Rock.
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  Speaker 1: That's the start of every gay porn. I'm sorry those
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  Speaker 1: kid Rock and our today we have on. It's on
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  Speaker 1: my mind, Yeah I did.
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  Speaker 2: We got We've got Bloomer Banks on about that star.
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  Speaker 1: On the weekend. Let's ask him about our the RFK junior.
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  Speaker 1: And that's honestly like a less weird intro to probably
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  Speaker 1: some of the gay porns that Boomer has been a
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  Speaker 1: part of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thing about it is is like, Okay, let's.
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  Speaker 3: Just for for the sake of whatever, right, let's assume
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  Speaker 3: that we think that RFK is doing a great job
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  Speaker 3: and we like him.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's just say that.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, is there any part of watching that video that
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  Speaker 3: makes people feel uncomfortable?
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like I'm looking at something that I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be sitting right now? What what's going on? What's what?
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  Speaker 1: Someone air dropped me this in the airport and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Like, this feels this field like I'm about this is
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  Speaker 3: something I don't want to see?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, and then and then and then it's.
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  Speaker 1: What did I say, Newton's law? Lost physics. It's always
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  Speaker 1: the person you don't want to see in the gym
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  Speaker 1: locker room, in the jockstrap schlanging and banging. It's always
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  Speaker 1: always that good rock looking motherfucker and the RFK looking.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I watched that for like and I and
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  Speaker 3: I I kept on going back that I was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, because I was like, I was going to actually,
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  Speaker 1: we're just going to circle back to the Yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: we could refer.
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: Back to the why is why am I not seeing anybody? Echo?
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  Speaker 2: How fucking weird it is?
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  Speaker 1: It's weird, it is so weird. Week Times did like
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  Speaker 1: a breakdown of it. They were like, what is this
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  Speaker 1: so weird? Also, what is it promoting? It's like something remember.
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  Speaker 2: When the reporters would even the point.
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  Speaker 1: Some like reporters from the UK BBC reporters went undercover
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  Speaker 1: in North Korea and like filmed the weird things that
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  Speaker 1: would happen in North Korea. It was like that, like
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  Speaker 1: some of the strange footage that was like.
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  Speaker 2: Lost and he got in and he got into an
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  Speaker 2: ice bath with his jeans on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to, like I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to like get into body shaming anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no it's not that's not what it is
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  Speaker 2: that weird. Well it's and also I think I also
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the point was. What were you trying
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  Speaker 2: to show us?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Are you showing us maybe that RFK, who is in
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: good shape, sure, versus Kid Rock who is not in
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  Speaker 2: good shape, and maybe we're trying to get Kid Rock
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  Speaker 2: to anything?
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  Speaker 1: What story?
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  Speaker 2: What are we trying to tell here?
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  Speaker 1: Or was this like I honestly, were there any words
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  Speaker 1: with the video? It was just like video was there first?
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  Speaker 1: With your gens on? Is are they? It's like a
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  Speaker 1: never nude from Tobias Blues.
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  Speaker 2: Then you get out of the ice bath with your
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  Speaker 2: jeans on. There's nothing worse than a wet pair of jeens.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry. I've done a lot of drugs and alcohol in
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  Speaker 1: my life, and I've never gotten in a bathtub with
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  Speaker 1: my genes on.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely, yes, yes, absolutely, Like.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this, I know.
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  Speaker 2: But like the history of it's like a matter of
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: course that people just drink a lot and do drugs.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: I never did. But and I'm not saying that is
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  Speaker 2: trophies in the math. No, no, no, no, no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: mean that for you.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: You have all your natural teeth.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: I do nice, must be nice, But but no, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it that way. I'm saying that it's
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  Speaker 2: really interesting. I was so uninterested, yes, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was the only thing I was interested in interesting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean like there was I mean I was in
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  Speaker 1: a small town. There was nothing else to do, especially
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  Speaker 1: if you were gay as shit, Like there's nothing else
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  Speaker 1: going on. There's no other gay people.
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  Speaker 2: H well, I'm there are a ton of gay people.
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  Speaker 4: You just didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: My only friend committed suicide. Oh no, And I was
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  Speaker 1: like fifteen, Oh that's awful. And it was like the
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  Speaker 1: only other gay person I knew. Yeah, we're going like weird.
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  Speaker 2: Dark yeah, but little trigger warning me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah tw but yeah, so it was like,
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  Speaker 1: what else am I going to fucking do? Let's hit
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  Speaker 1: the bottle. Yeah. When I was like younger, so that's
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  Speaker 1: why I was like smoking and drinking and experimenting with drugs.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I wasn't like addicted to drugs that, which
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  Speaker 1: is good. Yeah, yeah, which is why I'm not triggered
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  Speaker 1: when people mail me all sorts of drug paraphernalia' so.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Random was nobody mails me shit, I would like something.
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  Speaker 1: There were so many I could have given you some
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  Speaker 1: of these.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want that, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well there were two bongs, and the one bong looked
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: like a coffee cup. It was like you flipped the
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  Speaker 1: straw up and that was the and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. But I was like I don't
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  Speaker 1: really smoke out of a bong. So I was like
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: there's this area in my apartment building where you leave
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  Speaker 1: things the ton't want anymore?
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Wait is it gun?
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  Speaker 1: So if I was taking it downstairs, and it was
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday night because I went off Friday night, so
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night was the night of rest. Okay, we're a
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  Speaker 1: Christian household, and so we get in the elevator and
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  Speaker 1: it's like a group of frat boys in the elevator
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, do.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: You guys want this?
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, do you guys know what this is?
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, yeah, we know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: That's like a bong. And they like took in. They're
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  Speaker 1: like taking out of the packaging and they're like, are
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: you sure you don't want this? It's like really expensive.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, Like I'm good, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I learned how to roll a joint in tenth grade.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that is how I'm smoking if I need
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  Speaker 1: to smoke. And they were so I hear them leaving
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  Speaker 1: the building and they're like yo, and then they like
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  Speaker 1: yelled the name of the brand. They were like, it's
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: this brand, Oh my god, whatever, Yeah, it's puff Code.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, it's puff Code. Did you oh my God,
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  Speaker 1: that guy gave it. It was so funny. I could
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  Speaker 1: hear them.
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  Speaker 2: I think the brand now is going to be upset
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  Speaker 2: with you. But you gave away their things.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I think they were like they just sent it. They
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  Speaker 1: were like. I don't think they were like you must no, no,
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  Speaker 1: not you mum must go like an ounce.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody is sending you merch, yeah, they would like
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think they wanted me to like post
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  Speaker 1: about it correct and now instead you've given it to
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of frat boys.
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  Speaker 2: Michael is an ingrate me.
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  Speaker 1: However, you know what I made those frat boys night.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: They're still talking about it. They're like, you did remember
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: that bald guy in sweatpants who just like gave us
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: the six? What guy?
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: You know, the old guy in his late thirties.
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  Speaker 1: Jason Statham? Who was it? It was that guy?
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  Speaker 5: Wait?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait my algorithm. Okay, wait, we're like
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: talking about like dark stuff. I did have a PSA.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: I saw yesterday that there's there's a report that DHS
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: and ICE are moving pregnant migrants to Texas so that
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: they don't have to provide abortion care because in Texas
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: it's basically illegal to get an abortion. It's almost impossible,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: especially if you're at a detention center, right And so
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  Speaker 1: there's been this like big expose that they are indeed
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  Speaker 1: doing this, and I thought it was an important opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to talk a bit about. There is this term that
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: came up in the report called a pregnant child that
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: people have really are hung up on. Rightfully, So, sure,
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  Speaker 1: a pregnant child child and they're usually survivors of sexual
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: assault trigger warning. Yeah, I think it's really important to
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: talk about because I saw a lot of comments to
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: people sending it to me, asking me about child pregnancy,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: what that is, why that is, and sort of like
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: do a breakdown of that. So I think it's important
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: to highlight that rape survivors are oftentimes not afforded abortion
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  Speaker 1: care in Texas. That's very real. That's like a women's issue.
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  Speaker 1: And it's this like awful crossover episode with what's happening
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  Speaker 1: in immigration in America right now, because they're sort of
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  Speaker 1: like forcing these survivors of rape to carry out a pregnancy.
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  Speaker 1: That oftentimes, in my experience, when I have migrants help
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: asking me for help as their lawyer, and they're pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: They're fleeing a regime where sexual violence is sort of
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  Speaker 1: like a part of the culture or a part of
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the humanitarian crisis in that country. They're coming here for
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: a siglum relief, to get away from that humanitarian crisis
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: to a country that's supposed to be recognized as a
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: place where we have basic human rights and especially women's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: rights and women's care. So I wanted to highlight that
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: because I think I hear this a lot of like, well,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: why are they here? There's just like a lot of
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: non understanding, like why migrants are here? Why there are
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: so many migrants in America? And I will say that
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: it's because we are Our location is a place where
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: people can access America, and it's one of the places
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: where we're supposed to have these rights in this care.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: And they get here and oftentimes they're held in a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: detention center that is in worse conditions than the country
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: they're fleeing. So this sort of like misconception around, oh, well,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: why don't they just go home? Or they wanted to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: move here because they wanted to be a rapper in
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: a music video. Right, No, they're thirteen and they were
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: raped and they're now pregnant and they're coming here to
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: get away from their family or their assailant.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Or horrible conditions of Yeah.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I had a client who is an adult now who
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I was representing, and a part of the military regime
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: when they were growing up in their Central American country
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: was that sexual violence against children was a part of
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a military strategy. So it was a way to keep
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: people in line and a way to keep people afraid
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: of the government, and it was documented and institutionalized in
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the government and military tactics. So I think what people are, like,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: why do they want to come here? Or a judge
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: will ask my client, what do you want to do
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: when you're here? What's your dream job? And it's like, no, baby,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Like We're literally just trying to survive.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to survive.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Like it's not I want.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I would like the opportunity to survive, like the opportunity
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: to live provide a certain standard of care for my
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: family and myself. Yeah, but that is exactly the kind of.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Thing that I'm sick of, Do you know what I mean?
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I understand that I need to hear it, right, Yeah,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: but sometimes I just need a break and.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Take that break, honey, do you know what I mean something?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Because people I so many people contact me like, hey,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I'm burning out, but I watch your videos because like
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: you give me hope and it's a little bit of insight,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: but I'm not anxious. It's not the doom scrolling, right,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a disruption from that. Take
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: a break, go to yoga.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: You also provide the information with some humor, right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you? You do. I try, no, I try, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: sometimes it gets really serious.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean you. You definitely also have your
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: serious moments.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: But it's I think that that's what makes it palatable
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: for people, right, is like, oh, this guy's obviously smart,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: you know what he's talking about, but he's also like funny.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I guess so uncomfortable with compliments, I'm sorry, it's not anything.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: It's not you, I know, but thank you.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: You're very welcome.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to like.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Compliments are hard for a lot of people. But somebody
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: said something to me once they hit it something to
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: me and I was like, no, whatever, and they're like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: you know what, that's.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Actually really fucked up, Like take the compliment. Take because
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: now you're.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Making me feel bad right, No, no, no, no, that that's
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: what you're doing. But like, yeah, so when somebody gives
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: you a compliment, just say thank you.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break so I can not be
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: so read. Did you see the thing that Megan McCain
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: posted where she's now some of the movies that cost
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: less than Christy Nolans two hundred twenty million dollars ad
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: campaign budget or Appenheimer Barbie talk on that?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Miss my father said my father.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I can't keep Megan McCain's where she's going with anything?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Where do you fall on the political spectrum, Megah McCain,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: because now she's what is she talking about Christine Noman?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: How expensive the plane was? I mean sure, I mean sure, yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I guess that is truetives are like budget hawks. Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: And but also I think you know she loves to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: talk about her father. My father is my father. That
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it's actually really frustrating.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: The apartment feels like we you just let that man
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: rest in peace, Please stop conjuring him up again.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: If I die, you my permission to go on the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: book circuit just with you know, weekend at Bernie's mean,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: whatever you have to do done, dancing around with me
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: on strings.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Done. I got you.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: You've got my express permission here on the show to
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: go for it. You sell those tickets, I will.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Sell those tickets.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: But I think that her father is one of sort
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: of the last Republicans that we had been used to,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: that he was not like this new kind of Republican.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, he.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Would sort of like I remember, he would just surprise
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: people with his votes when he was the Spring the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: swing vote were like, oh yep, exactly different.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Really, I think somebody who, whether they agreed with him
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: or not, had a certain standard of.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Ethics that he subscribed to.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And because whether you agree with those ethics or not.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Correct right, they were there. He had them.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: He had them. But like you said, though, I think
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: that he was Republicans tended to be fiscally responsible.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: This is this is not this is the actual opposite.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: What were the movies, CJ. It was Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer, Barbie,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Less than the Plane, Top Gun, Maverick, Dune, and The
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Batman Girl Bye. She will be in prison at some point.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I certainly hope, so, I certainly hope.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: So ready for the trial of it's going to be.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: And he's and like I said, like he's going to
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: throw these people under the bus.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I mean he already to.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You from of the undercarriage of fifteen. Truly, that's what's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: going to happen, because I mean, how many scaramouchies did
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: she last? What was that thirty seven thirty seven point
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: two scaramouchie she lasted?
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: That's actually I love that scaramuchi is a measurement, measurement
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: of time. I'm going to be about three scarmouchies late,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: like I'm.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Running the marathon, and how many scaramucies, So insider said.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Trump was angry when Christino revealed in testimony that Trump
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: knew about the two hundred and twenty million dollars for
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: ad campaigns. And this was so how stupid. I'm actually
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: insulted that she and her friends thought that we were
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: stupid enough that we wouldn't find that her friend created
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: an ad company nine days before they no bid contract
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was awarded, two said ad company, Yeah to a friend
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that was so easily traceable back to Christy. The fucking
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: this frizzle on the magic school bus could have found
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that shit, Like, there is no way that anyone was
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: going to sneak that in there were no shell companies,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: there were no Panama papers.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: This wasn't But I think that this is exactly what
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: they do, right. They really think that the American people
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: are stupid. I love the uneducated, like they keep on
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: and that's.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: What it is.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And the other thing that I find so fucking galling
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: is that they all think that they're the ones, They're
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the clever ones, They're going to be the ones who
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: get away with it. It's like the senator.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Who thinks that he's not going to get caught propositioning
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: somebody in a bathroom, right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Like Junior the day after the Iran war bought all
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: this stock in a drone company. Like, come, you have
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the same last name as the president. It's yourn It's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the same name.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I hate the run n. This is what I'm saying.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's like not even it's not even clever,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: just sipping.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: On dumb bitch juice, like especially squeeze zips. And then
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files are still in the news.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, they are because I'm.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Keeping them there. Yeah, Pam Bondi, our friend Robert Garcia,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: friend of the friend of the pod, end of the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: pod just Subpoena, Pambondi, and will continue to fight for survivors,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: which we love to see at EVA. Yes, especially Subpoena
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and pam Bondi.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: The same woman.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: These are the things that keep me going, so like
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: keep up, you're so tired. But these entered, these things
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that I hear about that energizement, now.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I hear you.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: But this is the same woman who there were some
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Epstein survivors sitting in back of her and when she
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: was being when she was testifying, and they're like, will
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: you turn around and look at these women? And she
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: absolutely refused. She pretended to take notes and stuff. Like
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I said, the cruelty and the stupidity is like overwhelming.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Her paper is just like a doodle. It's just like
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a she's just writing her name. I remember the ex
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the s that we used to do in the nineties,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: like the three lines three lines, correct, everybody did that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that sort of thing.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it is.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I would love to see her in orange jumpsuit too.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: It's truly become like Hollywood East is DC. It's really
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: become just like an entertainment movie making machine.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so it's so ridiculous.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I think the internet when we were all dunky on
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Christino last week when she got she got gone, that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: was some of the most beautiful mimography I've really seen
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in a long time.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Not mimography.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: We got to bring back the National Endowment of the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Arts to support the mimography that I saw last week
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: on the internet, because that was just beautiful. Stuff's gets work.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It was it was couldn't happen to a nicer person,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that bitch.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: That is a cautionary tale tell about fillers, Christine home.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: That's the other thing I want to say, be careful,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: put down the pump because christineam how old does she
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: She's got to be No, no, early forties, thirties is
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: my age?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah she's fifty four?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Wow?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah. Maybe it's not a cautionary talent pillars.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: No, it is. It is could look again, and it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: forget how we feel about her. But it's sort of again.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It's like this idea of when you do a medical
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: intervention on your face. You don't know how your face
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: is going to what you don't know, you don't know
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: how your face is going to react, like like.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: A medical intervention, Like it's a stint.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Well, what I mean, like people are doing. That's what
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: they're doing, right, like these sort of like cosmetic interventions,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: right when.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: You like interrupt what the Lord was working with and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: then with doctoring.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And listen, I completely understand the desire. Like you look
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: at your face and you're.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Just like, I wonder if I just yeah, yeah, a little.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: But the problem is that you don't know how your
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: face is going to react, And isn't it better?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm still thinking about it. Isn't it
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: better to just sort of age and look like yourself
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: than to sort of eight And now her face is
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: like a roadmap. It's like all like no, but but
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it's not. I'm not even trying to be mean, like
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's it's like Caroline what's her name
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: with her lip filler. The injection is that wouldn't you
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: be better to have it was like slighterless.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It was like the cracker barrel to connect the dots
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: on the kid's menu. Yeah, remember that very bad. That's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: why it only change your hair. I'm coming in with
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: an eighteen and chum in her bundle next week to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the pod, okay, and I'm going to be transformed. I'm
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: going to be a different person, are you really?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Although I do.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: We talked about if I went to Turkey. I'm just
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: got like a full head a hair. I don't even
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: know came back to ginger.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: If I'd be able to look at you right in
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the eye anymore, you would look so different.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You don't know this about Melissa. She does that with
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: anyone with hair. She won't look them in the eye.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: That's actually like my problem.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: When somebody in front of me like does something to
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: their face, and I'm always.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Like like, I'm like, do I look? Do I not look?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: My dad?
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: You?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And I yeah, my dad the.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Biggest yenta in the world. I would see somebody and
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: say something but like but like look at me and
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: be like missa, look look look look like good was good,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Like, shut up. Yeah klicklicklick click clicklickicklick.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But that's what happens when somebody's got something distracting on them.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You can't keep it you you can read your poker face.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Not for that. I don't because I'm just like and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: then I do this thing where I feel like, Okay,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: so I'm going to look at them for a beat
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of two and then I'm gonna look.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: The rhythm method because not counting, Oh my god, not
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the rhythm method, Melissa.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And we all know the rhythm doesn't work.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work because people are like, why is the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: most accounting to herself, like I just got my.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like I have to like try and
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: balance to like the normal eye contact with the not
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: speaking of mimography.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I saw Chris Chris Jenner's facelift and seeing this, someone
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: put a meme out there that said they stepped on
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: her back and yanked when they told her that they
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: did her facelift, because she really does and someone to
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: decider to side. It was like fifty five and fifty six,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and she looks incredible.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: She looks so good.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin talked about how that doctor, she wouldn't say
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the name, but it's a million million dollars now for
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that facelift. Because she looks so good, everyone is going
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to her.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But here's the problem. Chris Jenner looks good. Who's to
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: say that I'm going to look good if I had this?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: This what I'm saying, you don't know what your face
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: is going What your personal face is going to do
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: it right.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Did you ever do a divine corpse in art class? No,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it is okay. You fold a piece of paper up
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and each person draws a little part, and then.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: You where did you go to school?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I went to I went to unaccredited boat. That sank.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of it. Never heard of this? Yes, okay,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: we don't need to go into my education. Wait, what
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is it called a divine corpse? You basically fold up
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: a piece of paper and pass it around the room.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Divine corpse is coming up as a Christian exquisite corpse?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: You said, a vine corp.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, very similar synonym for sure. But like, I'll stop
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the thesaurus.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: But when I googled the vine corps, some mouse came up.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So wait, what is it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Called exquisite cork? Inquisite corps? Yeah? What were we talking about?
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Oh we were talking about plastic surgery. Oh yeah, the surge.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: There was something plastic surge around my feet as well.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: The ear hair removal with wack Turkish. The Turkish ear
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: hair is yeah, that's so satisfying to me. It is
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: because it looks like it really fucking hurts. I'm sure
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that you guys are always.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Like, well, anytime you put hot wax on your skin
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and you yank the hair out.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Right, that's gonna hurt. I get waxed every four weeks.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I've been doing it forever. It's still fucking hurts. You
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: want your eyebrows, No, I thread my eyebrows. Is that
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: that's very painful. It's very painful, and it's different from plucking.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: How I don't know we're going to raise that and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: my back? Was there sexual chemistry energy from that r
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: f K video that you saw. Were you feeling like
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I was?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I was so overwhelmed with disgust, so there was no. Yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it's just you feel like something really growth, like I've
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: never felt.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Dryer in my life. It really brought you back to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: your sex side. Class from the nun's teaching you.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: My sister terrase sister.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I hate that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I know remember that so clearly.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I would remember if I were taught from non, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: would remember.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Typing teachers was sister Nancy and we hated her.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And Nancy Nancy did.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I say funny, Sister Nancy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: We used to car sister shift bitch, because when you're typing,
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: shift so when you yeah, she was a horrible.
• 32:02
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• 32:05
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• 32:07
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• 32:09
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  Speaker 1: have the extraordinary prolific household name, famous Catholic pastor Boomer Banks,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: also known.
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  Speaker 4: Aren't we All?
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  Speaker 1: Also known as an extraordinary adult performer, entrepreneur, entertainer, DJ.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else, comma anything else?
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  Speaker 4: You I'm to add I could do a somersault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we love that and some of the adult videos.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good opener. Yeah, just I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just I think that would hurt.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: That's what would That's what would hurt. That's what that's
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: what would hurt. And that's all you need to know.
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  Speaker 4: That's all you need to know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us. I thought
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: would be fun to have you on. I want to
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: talk about the adult entertainment industry, your experiences in it,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: your life is just fascinating and it's.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: It's a complete different like from what you guys usually
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: have on here. No, we have everyone well everyone, yes,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: but yes, yes.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: This is our first time really diving into this. But
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting because I think the adult
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: entertainment industry is opaque. A lot of people don't know
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: what happens behind the scenes. They don't know that these
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: are paid performers, these are contracts, are studios. Watch it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Everybody watches, no matter what they say.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And also they seem to think that we are healthcare professionals.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Really they ask the most craziest questions. If someone becomes
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: HIV positive, they expect me to know something, which I
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: do and which is crazy. So to further that, I
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: did become well educated sure with my sexual health because
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: people would come and I didn't want people of color
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: not to have I won't ever give anybody I am
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: not a healthcare professional. I will let them know, hey,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: this is what I know, but you should ask your
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: and a lot of times in rural like Ohio, there
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: is no queer doctor for them to go to so
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: you know, I give them some sort of guidance and
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: that's all I could do. But it's very interesting how
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: much they think we know they want to tell us things.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That's interesting because like that is not at all what
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I would think, like if I were.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Of us grew up very okay with our sexuality, and well,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know about a lot of us, but there's
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of people that are okay with sexuality and
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: they don't need to center themselves in that sexual arena
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: and be like, oh they know yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it's because people have watched you that
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: they feel like they know you and therefore feel comfortable
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  Speaker 3: sharing something with you?
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody thinks they know me, Sure they do.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I mean I think I think that people often think
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: that they know famous people like because so if you
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: see a news anchor, that person comes into your house
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: every day, your favorite your favorite television stars, so if
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: they're watching your movies, then they will feel like they
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: know you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: And I have an interesting relationship with that word famous
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: and celebrity. I always talk to my therapists about it,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: and it does even talk about right now, it makes
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: me uncomfortable. I get that at this like ginormous level,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: like I am known, and it's I mean a lot
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: of times it's very clear. One of the funniest things
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: you I'll be at airport and there'll be a man
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: like pushing a baby car with his wife and he
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: gets flush and you're like, oh.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: That man, watch why you so read sir, sir.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: And and I'll smile and they'll just like not know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: but yes it is. It is very interesting. But it's
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: also interesting in the way that like a lot of
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: people like do know, but they don't want to admit
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: that they know, right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: They'll pretend like they don't know you or they've never
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: seen your.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Well that's more of a of a of a gay
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: thing for these gays and be like, oh, what's your name?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: That's not because you're in They do that to me too,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: and then and then they I'll be like, oh, already
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: following me there in your DM already damn messages.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, with gay people saying pictures, yeah, you could see
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: their religion.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Our dams are probab a little different. But sometimes people
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: will be speaking.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Of d ms really quickly. So I shared the other
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: day that I was like, I was like seasonal depression
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: is real.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And it was it that it wasn't lind Gram, Oh
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: my god, please.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: No and so and then but then I posted a
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: picture of me and my dog and I was like, oh,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: this is my care for seasonal depression. And I just
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: kept getting all these like gaping whole.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Pictures and I'm like, oh, didn't carry your seasonal depression.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: But it's like I just was being vulnerable. But I
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: was like this is what I and I posted. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: was like, I guess this is what I signed night
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: for dot dot dot, you know, but I literally just
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: posted some guys like do you want to see the
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: video of me? I just put a piece of soap
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: up my butt, And I was like, what are we doing?
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Of course I hope it was an Irish spring. I
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: would think that would like burn, it would.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Burn, it would happen Irish bring instant.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, soap scum from Irish string.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I just remember in college when I would hook up
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: with the frack Eye, the whole bathroom would smell like
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that Irish sprain axe bodies right.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Well, also Irish spring layered with X.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Bodies, right Yeah, It's like it's like a you can
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: still smell their musk because they don't really clean themselves properly.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: It's always those used up boxer shorts that are crunchy, crunchy, crunchy.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: You're like, what is this not moving?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Like fabric?
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Do?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: People?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: So going back to your DMS and stuff, right, So
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: what do you think is the desired result?
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Are they hoping that you will access to you? Right?
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Access?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And it is.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: It is my fault. I allow a lot of it
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: because I'm very open about my sexual health, about my sobriety,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: so many things that I do about how I advocate
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: for trans and queer because I identify as queer because to me,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: what I realized, what actually porn helped me realize, is
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: that I don't really identified with the world we're gay
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: because gay to me is gay white males, right, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: it's become this whole thing like on on Twitter there's
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: l g B or they don't they don't put the T.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Or anything else they know.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: And I have done scenes with trans men and they
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: will they're like, you're straight, You're doing straight porn with women,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, that is a man.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Also, it's no near fucking business to tell me what
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Right, yes.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I mean today someone puts it on the scene that
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I did with the transman and they're like, girl, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you doing?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: People in comments are wicked and wild. I can't.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's not even I mean, that's I feel bad
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: for my trans brothers and sisters. Yeah, and I just
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: block now. I don't even engage no more. But I mean,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I you know, I'm very open about my shabby status
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: as well, and people will tell me to die of AIDS. Sure,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: they just flat out dibates, and it's almost like because
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I don't respond to them the way they want me to, Sean.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And now with like the Internet, it's almost like if
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: you want to engage with an audience, or you want
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: to be an accessible public figure, who do you want
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: people to be able to come and ask you a question?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Or you want to be supportive of your trans siblings
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: in the queer community, it's almost like the cost of
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: doing business nowadays that you have to be willing to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: People are so emboldened too, like, well they feel safe,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: don't they write there behind and they feel like they
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: could see.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: And there's someone in the White House that is allowing them,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: you know, what I mean, it's a yeah. So now
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: people are showing them are asses people in my in
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: my well. And so to further, I left the proper
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: adult industry three years ago. I didn't make a big announcement.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: I think it's weird when people are like, I'm quitting porn. Cool, great,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: good for you. When were you doing it?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Sorry, we didn't know you started.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Before you.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: It was a good over a decade, like a solid decade.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: And they just last not this January, but the January
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: before that. They gave me Hall of Fame award and
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I'm only the second person of color to ever win
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: that award. And there's so many beautiful people of color.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And is there a lot of racism in the porn industry?
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: So raisin ism to me, I equate hate. Yes, there's
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: a lot of prejudice. Okay, there's a lot of instilled, uh,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: you know, prejudice. They think that because this is making
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: money and it's just a bunch of Caucasians. Like when
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: I started at the studio that I started at, they
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: asked me to be exclusive. Right after my first scene.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: They're like the president call and I thought it was
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: because I'm an next attic and every time someone calls
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: that's higher than me, I think I'm in trouble. And
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, what did I do already?
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: And they offered me exclusive contract to be exclusive for
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: this company. It's one of the biggest gay porn companies.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: And I was like what and they're they're basically calling
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: me a really good whore, like they're like, you're really
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: good at graduation. We should give you more money.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: And is that and it's and it's unusual to get
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: it's very unusual.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I I it was my
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: first scene and I did it on my thirty third.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: It was I was thirty three years old that day
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: that I did that first scene. My Jesus year. Why
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: my Jesus year I did porn?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: What was that? What was that? Why were they seeking
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: you out like that?
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: So I just I've always been very comfortable with my sexuality,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: and it helped that I was doing a scene with
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: someone from New York that I had known before. Maybe
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just like even the director who
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I call my porn mom, Steve Cruz, he was just like,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: you're really good at this. And I was like, how
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: are you good at this? But it's not what you
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: guys think. It's not like OnlyFans now has revolutionized everything,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: like you could just like film and that's more genuine, right,
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I guess, than what was present, because like, literally they
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: have a checklist.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, there's a checklist.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: They're like, we're going to do oral, but then we're
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: going to jump and do this, and then we're going
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: to go back to this. It's not in chronological order
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: all the time. So it's not like we're just going
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: to film you guys have you know. So I was
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: not ready for that, but I was, I guess, because
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: they asked me to be exclusive and I was like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: hold on, we just went on one date, like, but
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: there was no one like me on their network and
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: there wasn't. It was just it was just Caucasian men.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: And even though they asked me to be exclusive for
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Raging Salent, which was the more like alternative brand that
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: they had at Falcon, I was still browner than everyone else.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: And the first year I came in and I had
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: told them because there was so I also tell this
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: story that I think actual porn stars like ceased to
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: exist with supermodels once there was complete success like Twitter
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: and and and and you know Ted from Ohio can
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: show his whole and put I'm a porn star because
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: on Twitter he's showing off.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: That's great, Ted, you could have that word.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I am not that. Porn stars to me were like unaccessible,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Like you know, I watched VHS porn, so there was
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: a big box porn. You don't know what HS is,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: funk off seriously, and uh so those guys were porn.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: It was god. I can't even think of names right now,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: but one of them, it was very queer and very open.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: His name was Francois Got and he's this French guy
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: and he has this tattoo full head tat like blacked
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: in and it's like a like a hairline thing, and
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: he's still beautiful to this day. Very popular. He did fashion.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: He was queer, like he was queer. He wasn't gay.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: He was very he Sometimes you'd see me out idolize
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: and that. And I knew that I embraced my femininity.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I knew that I was versatile a lot of things.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: But you know, when I started, I was very pigeonholed
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: into one thing. I was just the top. I was
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: just this and and I get why. I was like anatomy.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Oh okayt of me.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I was larger than probably anybody, not anybody, but a
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: lot of people. And what they didn't bargain for was
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: this a personality, a person like they didn't And when
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: I told them, like, I know that you guys had
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Francois as exclusive before, if you guys do what you
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: did for him for me, and they're like, oh well, friend,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: so I did a lot. I was like, you do you,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I will do me. And literally Paper Magazine, the New Yorker,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Time Out Magazine, t the New York Times, they all
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: wrote about this porn guy that knew how to could
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: tour a gown. Because I moved to New York for
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: fashion and I was in nightlife and like a lot
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: of things, there was a lot of things happening. And
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: so my first year I came to Guns of Blazing
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: and I went Performer of the Year my first year
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: and it was like it was like, you know the
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: girl that wins Best Actress her first year and then
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: you don't see her now, Yes, it's not that you
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: didn't see me after that. It was just like, oh,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: he already won, like and then like they just kept
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: hiring more white ice right, and I got and I
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: started speaking up and they didn't like that, and I
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: became the loud, aggressive person of color. Sure, and for
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: a while I was okay with that.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Where was your sobriety during this whole journey? Like why was.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Already nine years clean and sober of everything?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Okay when you started?
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: When I started? So I made this decision as like
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I literally called my sponsor and I was like, hey, so,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: and he's like, I'm surprised you haven't already done this
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: and I was like, excuse me, and he literally it
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: was a straight man at the time. Yeah, I have
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: a gay sponsor now, but he was a straight man
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: and he's like, all the guys think you're sexy, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: straight people in recovery are so okay with their like
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: saying stuff like that about the other dudes. And I
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: was like, who, what.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Did you This is really interesting to hear, did you
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: do you have a hard time accepting that is true
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: that somebody else could look at you and say yes.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Because today Michael and I were talking and I gave
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: him a compliment and he got squirmy.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I gave him a compliment a thing that we met,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: and he gets squirmedy, he gets squirmed me around compliments.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think I think a lot of
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: people do. Yeah, so did you were you like? What
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: is he talking about?
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Well, the reason I had a problem with the word
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: sexy because I equated it to being feminine. So that
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: was my interesting issue with the words okay, But at
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: that point I was seeking out like the queerness that
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't know I wanted and the femininity. And it's
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: like this for me, Okay, I people see me and
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm masculine presenting, but I'm very okay in
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: my skin of who I am. I didn't if you
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: would have seen me as a kid, I was like
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I was. I don't know if I said I was,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I was. I was such a and i've it wasn't
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: so much that I was. I cared because I wanted
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: my family to love me and I wanted my friends
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: to love me. But I actually, looking back, I don't
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: think I cared because I was so feminine like. And
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: I grew up with a single mother who was when
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: she was sober, because she she actually passed away of
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: alcoholism when I was fourteen, and but she she was
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: this like when she was sober, she was clamorous. I
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: remember she used to wear this uh two top black
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: shimmery jumpsuit with red pumps in a red light when
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: she had jet black hair, and I was like, that's
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: my mom.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: But also she was my mom. She wasn't present ever right, ever, ever, ever,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: ever ever ever ever.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you after your mom passed away? Who
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: did you grow up with?
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: My mom had a brother who was probably the only
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: family member that loved my mother, like she was the
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: youngest sister. But they all thought that all she needed
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: to do was go to she was they were Catholic,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: All she needed to do was go to church, and
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: then she was and she'd be okay, she'd be okay,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: but we would go to church and she would be
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: drinking vodka out of her purse. So I growing up
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: seeing that, I was like, you guys are crazy, Like
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: she goes to church and drinks Like it's not working, guys,
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: So how am I going to get my mom back?
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Or how am I going to get a mom?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Period?
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: So it's it's interesting. So yeah, like I was already
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: sober and I had made this decision, and I have
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: these people tell me you're sexy. But also when I
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: would go on dates before and people would take off
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: my pants and they'd be like, whoa, what's that? And
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, what are you talking about? I am
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: I've never been the person that walks in dick first.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: You know, there's people in our you know, gay world
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: that you already know they have a big day because
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: they've told everybody they have bigger even before they walked
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: inside the room. Yeah, And I just was never like that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: So now because of porn, people know, but before that,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: it just wasn't. And even now people are always like,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: you don't seem to be that kind of.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Like I was gonna ask you, like, what's it like dating?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Like I know your partner now, but when were you single?
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: When you're like, what was it?
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: I never was the dater. I was always okay being
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: by myself. I think once I got sober, and because
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: I've had such like relapse is not a part of
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: my story, and it is a part of a lot
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: of people's story. I don't know why. When I stopped,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: it was like if I go back out, I'm going
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: to die. And survival to me has always been such
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: like the found of who I am constantly waking up
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: thinking like how am I going to make it through today? Right?
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Has always been a thing, even as I mean, I
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: remember being five having to cook my own breakfast because
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: my mother was nowhere to be found, my mother disappearing
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: for like a month at a time. Sometimes like people
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: are like, oh, who's going to pay the rent? And
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like and seven seven, yeah, like what do you
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: want me to do?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting because I oftentimes hear from
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: people who then have incredible business success. Right, Like if
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I think if like the splashy, sexy side of your industry,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: if we extract that and just talk about your success
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: as a business person is really impressive, really like truly,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: like you have your own company now. You retired from
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the industry on a high note, which and.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I started that because I still was good. That's why
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: I never said like, I'm not I'm retiring for born,
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: because I knew that I still was going to dabble. Yeah,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: And even in my acceptance speech for the Hall of
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Fame Award, I was like, you haven't seen the lasted me? Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: And then Foreskinmafia dot Com came out and it's been
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: less than a year. It's almost going to be here
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: actually in May. And it's it's you know, it's a
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: new company, so but it's it's technically just like my
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: personal only fans, so that I don't have to go
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: through only fans so, and it's it's building. It's building,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: and people love it. People who subscribe don't have issues.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: And it's not just guys, it's my I didn't want
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: to call it boomerbanks dot com because I wanted to
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: use that for my music because DJing has been taking
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: a front seat of everything. And I know we're talking
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: about porn and it's always going to be interesting to
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: talk about and I I, I don't mind talking about it.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: But music is definitely the love of my life right
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: now and along with my dog and my partner. Yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: but music is so important to me and I didn't
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: realize how important it was. And it took losing a
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: friend to addiction to realize how important music was and
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: how it was very it soothed any sort of it
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: helped depression.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you decide that music was going to
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: take the front seat at what point? Because you tell us.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Three years ago my best friend accidentally overdosed it was
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: a Fentanel overdose and we used to share music every Friday.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: And a very legendary DJ named Nita Abbiance who lives
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: in New York. They have a DJ collective called the
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Carrie Nation and they're huge and the scene here in
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: New York and I've been really close with them. But
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: the first time I go go dance, they were DJ,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: so I was just talking to them. They're like, you
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: love music, Like why don't you come to the studio
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: sit behind me? You stand behind me at the booth
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: all the time. If you haven't learned something by now,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: like what.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Were you doing?
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: And and I have and it's ever growing, like I
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: I you can't fake like you can learn all the
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: knobs and everything and the technical part of everything, but
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: you can't fake taste when it comes to music. Especially
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: the queers here in New York City. We're just people
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: in general with music, like if you're not creating a vibe,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: they don't care.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: The music is a huge. There's so many everyone every
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: queen and Bushwick is trying to do their own DJ party.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: First Monday Full Moon there's we went to. I went
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: to one this weekend. I went to come on everybody, okay.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: There was happening there the very party, very party, okay.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't like this. And we
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: went next door. We went five minutes down the road
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: to a different want, a different pots and pants circum.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want this. It's a competitive market in New York.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: It's very competitive because there are really good DJs, like
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: you've broken through.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen some of your shows, and I've
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: seen that I still have a lot.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: To learn, and and and I knew that it was
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: going to be a heart cell because I also people
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: they love to love me when they're talking about porn
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: or whatever. But it's like that whole thing like you're
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: not I'm not You're not going to introduce you your
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: mom to a porn star like some people have. And
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: they moms love me, but you're.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Also not doing porn when you meet the mom, right,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Like that's like but and and a lot of.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: The moms like they're they they're so intrigued that like
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: there's this multi dimensional human and they're like, oh wow,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: that takes off his clothes, but he also can hold
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: the conversation eloquent. Yes, and he's brown, yeah, and yeah,
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: all those things can exist at the same time.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think of like the parallels between
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: like the music industry and the porn industry are very real, Like, right,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: we're talking about like creator based content creation, right.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: And and also there's so much and the ones that have,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: like the porn people that have tried to do music
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: have failed. And so when I started, they're like, oh
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: porn another Oh okay, yeah, and I was like, oh yeah,
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get that. But my mentor net abviance
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: is like, your name is going to get you in
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: the door. Sure, your music is going.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: To keep you there, right, and it's everything else right, Like,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: and it's a business mind, right, Like this is an
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: industry that you're a part of the music industry. So
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: being able to apply that sort of business mind, that
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: entrepreneur spirit, I think that's really interesting. And that's like
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: such a cool story to sort of follow, right, because.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: He took and so when you said bring props, I did,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: and I forgot I left it in the in the backpack.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: But so what I keep forgetting is that I have
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: done these pretty major things. So there's this I'm sure
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: you guys are familiar and I'm sure some of the
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: guys here familiar with flesh Light. Hm. It's a toy
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: that you insert yourself into and it's it's mainly women,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of beautiful women. I've met a
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: lot of them, and a lot of them are amazing,
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: and I'm really good friends with a lot of them.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: And then they created a men's side and it's called
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: flesh Jack and uh, it's apparently was a very prestigious
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: thing to have a toy collection with them. Michael I
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm mister a potato head. I have, yeah,
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: my butt, I have my penis, and I also have
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: my lips.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: Oh wow, Yeah, that's really big shot.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: Shot is my mouth.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: It's a triple threat Broadway right now.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: So when people tell me to fuck myself, I can't.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah you can, I literally can you can really follow
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: through it. I can follow you tell me to go
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: fuck myself all the time. I mean not.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Part of my career hasn't taken off yet.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: I mean there's still time.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: And I told you bring anything you want to tell you,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: bring anything you want to promote.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: So but I make money off of that and I've
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: been so this season on Depression, it was a three
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: year anniversary, it's birthday. Recently, at the beginning of February,
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: a lot happens. I'm about to move in with my
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: partner like so much, and it doesn't make me feel sexy.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't talk about that, right,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: these these content creators don't come on podcasts and talk
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: about how sometimes they don't feel sexy.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: What do you do when you don't feel sexy?
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: You forgive me? I literally have not posted anything on
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: my Twitter.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're just not feeling.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, and every single every week, I'm like,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: it's Monday, I'm going to be sexy this name, and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: then Monday hits and You're like, I have the wake
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: up day, I have to go here, I have a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: podocast to do today.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: It's the same for people.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, it's you know, I think I'll say
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: this as a woman who's you know, a woman of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: a certain age.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: There is something about that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: And I've been talking about this a lot, like I've
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: been looking at my face and recognizing that I'm getting
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: older and not feeling the way that I think I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: should feel.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Skin though, thank you,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: but you know what I mean.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: I know what you're saying.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: People tell me yesterday they're like, your skin is skinny,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: and I was like, fearce, it looks really good.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I mean so like, it's not it's it's it's for me.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: It's honestly, it's the aging. Do you know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: And yesterday I not to keep bringing to town, but
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: yesterday I went to a wake of a friend who
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: just passed away. And he was only in his early fifties. Wow,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: and you start singing your more time think You're like,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: I'm only like less than ten years away from.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: This, Like can I die?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Obviously?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: But I have so much more, Like my life didn't
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: start until I moved to New York City. I'm so
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: in love with the city, like I have never been
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: more happy in my life. I was born in Mexico,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: so and I was brought here when I was a.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Year old, and.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Right off the bat in Mexican and you know, more
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: than anybody in Southern California, the races are all divided
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: and they all are prejudiced against each other. The Mexicans
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: hate the Asians, Asians hate the people you know black people,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: Black people hate Mexicans. Like growing up, it was just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: this vicious circle and it's society that puts us against
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: each other.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know because the down so white people can ascend.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's how colonialism works. Yeah, right, that's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: how divide and conquer, right, and so it oftentimes.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: But I wanted, like I literally would like I wanted
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: to be everything else other than who I was. I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: think that had a lot to do with also me
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: be an addict. But like I would, I think one
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: year I was half black, one year I was all
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Puerto Rican, like I was never just Mexican because everybody
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: hated Mexicans in southern California. Yeah, you know what I mean, And.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: That self clothing runs deep.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Sometimes self loathing is a clothing.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: And it took me into my like doing porn, being
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: in therapy to realize because I remember having a conversation
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: with my therapist about what I thought the standard of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: beauty was, and I'm describing somebody that looks like him. Sure,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: what the fuck? Yeah, but that's but you know what
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: the when the world is literally I have half a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: million followers because of the way that I look.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, but that is the standard.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Of beauty was not created for us, right, the standard
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: of beauty. I mean you know, I was a little
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: girl growing up and the standard of beauty was fair faucet,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: and I can do whatever I want, but I will
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: never look like her, do you know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: So like you grow up.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: I've been watching uh, how to Get Away with Murders
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: it's called and they're constantly blowing out their hair.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, don't get me started.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: The hair, the hair, the And then I just saw
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: the episode where it was Scandal and it was Olivia
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: Pope and Forget and they both have their hair like
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: just blown out, and I was like, you guys have
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: beautiful it.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Is, but that is and especially if you're thinking about
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: you know, Olivia Pope and whoever, Viola Davis played that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: they were women in business, right, they were lawyers, and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: they were in front of people. And so in order
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: to make yourself more I would say palatable, right, you
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: have to do everything that you can do to assimilate
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: as much of.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Similarly, and when you do, then you're called the things.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: And it's just like and.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: The other thing about it is like I said, I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: can do whatever I want to assimilate at the end
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: of the day, this is a black woman.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Well, and people would be like, because these companies would
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: put me to work with other white men, They're like, oh,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: he only works with white men, and I'm like, well,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: I am the person of color, right right, I am
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: in this scene as well? Yeah yeah, yeah, Like are
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: we forgetting that I am in this scene?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I wonder like, when you were still performing, do you
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: and I still do but not for the companies? Okay, yeah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: but do you feel like you were like something to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: check off?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Right? We need like so I made sure.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, that was the one thing that I was like,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: I am not going to be your gardener. I am
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: not going to be this or that. I'm going to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: be on the cover of those DVDs at the time
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: you don't know where the DVD is off and and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: I was. I was on many covers. They made movies
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: surrounding me that weren't like just like like I mean
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: like the Gang Member all that, you know what I mean.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: It's just it was always me, like even when they
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: did they did a movie called foresk and Mafia for me,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: and I wore like, uh, I'm just Owens and like
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: I was able to dress up like the way I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: wanted to dress up.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I heard for and Mafia, and I just think the Sopranos,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and I like James Gandelfini.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: I am the James Gandelfini of Corn.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: You just gave us our episode title.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Up to the studio, I was listening to Jennifer Lawrence
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: do the podcast with Amy Poehler. Yeah, and I turned
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: to my partner. I was like, I think I'm the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Jennifer Lauren is a horn because like I'm so open
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: and you just say everything everything, like people ask about whatever,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, this is what's happening. And she's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: very that they're like. And then people are always surprised
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: that she's just like herself, like and she'll and she
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: does go like down the street to go get coffee
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: for herself. I mean, I'm not as big as for Lawrence,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: but like you know, I do things from People are
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: always like, oh, I can't believe you're here, Like.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where am I supposed to be? What other fan
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: interactions can you tell us about.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Fan interactions that stand out? I mean just that the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: funniest ones are like the yeah, that's the that's that's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: the funniest to me. But I mean, yeah, and and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: and now people feel like, oh, I love your work,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, you listen to my music, And
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: then they're like, oh you did music.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: Where can people listen to me? Just like iund cloud?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Boomer Banks on SoundCloud. Yeah yeah, So the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: music is always going to be Boomer Banks.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: I worked really hard for that name. Sure, yeah, I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: worked really hard for that.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Name in long career before your music, right, And.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: But it's yeah, it's so much has happened, and I'm
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: just grateful that relevancy is still a thing. And I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: want to feel sexy. I'm sure you feel you know,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: and but.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: You look like thank you.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: Clothes to me is so much fun, and I don't.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I have so much clothes that I need to start
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: wearing my beautiful stuff that I have. And I'm so
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: grateful on moving in with a person who is like
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: a lot more organized than me, so that's going to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: be very helpful. I have so many beautiful clothes and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: shoes that I've like bought like it's very helpful. But
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: but of course my kind of sexy and being online
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: is a little more provocative, and I just you know,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: if anybody out there can be helpful, because these guys,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: these other contractions, you talk to him about stuff like that,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: they don't want to talk about feelings. They don't want
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: to talk about you.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Know, well it doesn't make good context.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Well imagine we're in the club and Boomer and I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: were just having a sit down, heart to heart about
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: our feelings. But that's all people always do.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: That.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: People will come up to and be like, meanwhile, everyone
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: around this is like, yeah, everyone look.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Me and you were having a conversation about something. And
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: literally when we were leaving, my partner is like, hey,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: it's this guy's birthday and he wants to meet you
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: for his birthday. So it was happening when I met you.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Always happening.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: It was happening when I met you, and and people
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: are always really present. I'm okay saying hi because they
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: see the tattoos and they're like, you know.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: How how do you And if it's okay, if you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: don't have a way to feel sexier, get out of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: your funk. Because I think I was talking about yeah,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: that way. I've been talking about.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: It because the more I talk about it, that gives
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: it gives the power. It takes the power away from
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: whatever it is.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I get I used to get the word.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: And I don't like when people tell me that I'm intimidating.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: I find that very very much a dog by silver,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: a person of color. Yeah, maybe you're intimidated, which is different.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not your problem.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: It's not my problem, right, But people say that a lot,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: and it's like, but then when they get to know me,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you're actually nice. Well actually yeah, I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: mean now I don't know if I want to be nice.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Sometimes people think that I'm going to like bitch them out,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: or that I'm like a mean lawyer, or that I'm
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: like or that I'm like too busy to chat with them.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Or I've ever met a mean lawyer? I see them
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: on TV.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I've definitely met some. I've worked for some mean lawyers. Yeah,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: they're so angry. They're angry, they're bitter, they're tired.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: What kind of layers are they? For me?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Was litigation?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Okay? Anyway? Thank you? Where where come? I'll find you?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: You can where and they can go to so SoundCloud
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: as boomer Banks, SoundCloud as boomer Banks. Uh. Instagram is
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: always going to be Bacon Lever. It's bacon l v R,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: which I used. I started literally when Instagram started.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, what's my name going to be?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, Bacon Lever. But for me,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: it was like bringing home the bacon. Yeah, that was
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: so hard to explain. Some people was like, you like bacon.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, sure, we're showing up to your shows
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: handing you back bacon.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: I have to throw a so much stuff that people.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Are like, oh, I have this.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to throw it away. I have
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: this cute little piggy bank that someone game and it's
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: his boomer on the side, and I just looked at
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: it and I was like, I don't want to throw
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: that away. People would always bring me bacon stuff bacon
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: to the all the time, or actual bacon.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: Someone brought me candyed bacon once. Yeah, mine is pile
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: of cash lover at on all platforms. If you want
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: to bring me anything, it's just my venmo venmo at.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: But yeah, and it's and and I still call it Twitter.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: Do you guys call it X?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: I call it Twitter?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: Who calls it X?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I'll go back and forth between Twitter X.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: I think I call it X if someone's like it's X,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: Like okay, it's X. Yeah, Twitter, it's boomer Underscore Banks
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: because someone took boomer Banks, Like what.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Who does that? Cyber squatting?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well someone had boomer banks dot com forever and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: I guess they let it go. And my business partner
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: was like, boomemegx is available and I was like, oh,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: buy it. Yeah, yeah, buy it for me. I want
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: to use it for my music. And that's why we
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: named the website for skinmafia dot com. It's funny, it's cheeky.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: It's not just people with foreskin. That word is so
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: polarizing though, foreskin is it?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know, do you think so? No, it's right.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: It is a body part in my house. A lot
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: of people don't have that body partner.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: That's right, my house. Calling everything by like the proper term.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: That was like the role really vachina?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Yep, it was vagina. Penis like there was nois.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: But now penis is like a really like the Gooners
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: they love using that word.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Just laughed.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Community, Yeah, they use the word penis. They use a
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: lot of property and anatomicals are appropriating.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: You do not really quick lay on.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: It is this new, not new, It's always been a thing,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: but now it's bigger and these I think it's his
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: way of doing content without having to interact with someone else.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: And they can make money, okay, and they'll just go
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: on there and it's this face that they make and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: they start.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Truly, it's like people who are like addicted to masturbating, masturbating,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: and so they masturbating, they get close to masturbating and
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: you get that like face yeah, yeah, yeah, and then
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: you stop and then you stop this like highly dramatized.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: But then they talk.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: They're very verbal, so they talk about their penis, okay.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: And they like over enunciate.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: That seems like such an.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Very interesting way. And I don't want to go there
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: because then I'll sound like I'm gooning on your brief recess.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: And it's like brief recess to goon.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to google gooner.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: You're going to go on this.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a rabbit hole. I'm okay with it.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: Not the work, not the work, but yeah, and so
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: and then I also have the toys on flesh Shock.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: And you can you can buy the toys. You can
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: buy the toy and that's on forcek and Mafia dot Com.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: No, the toys are on flesh light dot.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Com, flesh dot com flash.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Light or flesh jack dot com flush Jack.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your whole anatomy.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: My whole anatomy is available.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: It's such a weird way to use the word hole.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and that's not what I meant. That's what
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I meant it is. I do want to ask you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: really quick, what's it like? How do you make them?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I'm curious how.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: The I was literally in the group of last people
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: that used molding, actual molding. Now they do like a
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: three deep and mine is your wier so it's not
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: a three D printer. They literally like use you know
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: that green stuff they put in your mouth for to
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: mold your teeth.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, they use that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: So they put it in a big old thing and
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: you put insert your penis in the like plaster. Yeah,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: and then mine is literally identical, like there's a side
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: by side and but like the new guys, it looks
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: bigger because it was like they do the little dots,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: the little I don't know what it's called now the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: image of their penis.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a great gift. I mean, we have Easter
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: coming up baskets, Mother's Day, Fithers Day. Yeah, you know,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Grandpa's retirement party. I mean, you don't know.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: And this is like, I don't know where was I yesterday?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Someone's like, I have your dildo and I was like
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: cool church that church.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Thank you for coming, thank you for joining us,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: thank you for being here. It was great having you.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: For sure to check out what we're banks on SoundCloud. Yes,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to seeing you on our next segment,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Tails from the DMS. No, that's actually the segment. It's
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be my DMS, not Boomers.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: We'll get in trouble.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: We're going to jump right into Tales from the DMS.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I thought it would be fun to answer some of
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: your questions. We actually have some reviews that CJ pulled together. Melissa.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Do you want to read some of the reviews? I do.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is funny. The Jenny Jones story when we
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: did the Gay Panic Defense, the way I felt my
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: age realizing you had to just gribe nineties talk shows
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: to people to set up a Jenny Jones story. It
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: really was a time.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I was there.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: It was a time capsule. I lived it. I lived
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: I lived.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: No, you didn't. You didn't really live it.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I lived.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Were getting milk and cookies?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: You were.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I was staying homesick from school to watch Sure and
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: and Plinko.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: No, I was older in high school. Yeah, let's see.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Oh this is actually really funny. The Art Theft episode.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: What a treat to listen to this show after a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: steady nightmarish diet of horrific news. I feel almost clean now.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Thank that good clean feeling. That good clean, that's squeaky
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: clean feeling.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Irish spring feeling.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: That is the worst fucking soap it runny. When I
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: first started CRISP.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: When I first started dating Andre, the first night I
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: spent the night at his place and I got into
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: that shower and I saw irish spring.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, I have to help this man.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Oh speaking of help.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: From the ice abuse episode with Congressman Robert Garcia, we
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: have a comment from Spinella six nine. I'm not going
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: to do it. I have a runway show with Melissa's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: wardrobe and auction it all off. I wish I could
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: help you. I have the same problem. I love thrifting. Yeah,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: hate throwing away useful things that have a life left
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: feel like the quantity of stuff I have in my
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: life is in direct conflict with my.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Face about on the other hand, is a real bitch
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: and could help you clean out that store.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't know it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: I am. I have to tell you that I think
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: that I am afraid to like open my closet.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: But what I really would like might following you and
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: you might suffocate to death.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: My mother, my mother will say if I don't call her,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: she'll say, you didn't call me. I'm like, I know, Mom.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: She's like, you didn't call me. You never know. The
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: refrigerator could have fell on me. And I'm like, and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: also where my parents refrigerator is in the kitchen. There's
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: no way, there's no way it's going to hit the cabinet.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: She's like, you don't know.
• 1:18:13
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and don't forget friends. What do I always say, Well,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Michael is a lawyer. He's not your lawyer. Get your own.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: I'm that girl everyone's girl. So this person says, do
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: you want to read the.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Question federal jury duty tips? I have been summoned for
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: federal jury duty in redacted state. Any tips that the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: general internet probably doesn't have. It's my first time for
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: any jury duty at all, and being a federal case,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: it's making me nervous.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, So this is a little confusing because your jury
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: summons was four or a federal case. That's like, that's
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: happened to me, that's happened to you. Yeah, that's a
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: really really long time ago. But yeah, and they were
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: interesting to federal court. All right. I guess what I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: want to know before I give you a tip is like,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: do you want to know how to get out of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: it or how to like survive it?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Like what is what is your why don't we do both?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Okay? How to get out of it? I would listen
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: to what kind of case it is, what attorneys are
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: looking for in here, and that's what eer is. The
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: selection process for a jury is someone who is going
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: to have like extreme bias against one of the parties
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: or has and that bias can be from you worked
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: for that company or you worked in an industry that
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: is going to give you too much insight. So when
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: you're in that jury room, you are sharing things that
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: the lawyers don't want you sharing, right.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: What if whatever. Let's say there was a crime and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: you had been a victim of that same crime.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, biasias, huge prejudice A yeah, So that's also a
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: way that people kind of get out of it. If
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: you want to know, like how to survive federal jury,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: it is It's possible. It's going to be intense and long.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: It could be really long.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Because oftentimes if they're getting to a place where you're
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: getting a federal jury summons, you are the case is
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: definitely going to trial. It's not like we're going to
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: play this out like the lawyers have tried everything. This
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: is a serious enough case where it's gotten to federal court.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: The lawyers and the parties are probably looking for some
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: sort of precedent here, so that's why you're getting that summon.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be a buckle up because it
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: will be like a trap in a long process, but
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: probably a fascinating experience. And remember, some people get a
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: book deal as a juror, so if it was a
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: fierce case that makes headlines, you can always sell that shit.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: You could afterwards, though, don't say anything. Don't.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: No, you're not allowed to say anything. Yes, actually that's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: really important. You're not allowed to say anything to anybody
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: during the trial. Afterwards, don't call in until after and
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: tell us all about it. Yeah, afterwards.
• 1:21:08
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• 1:21:10
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