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12/17/25 -- Dan Ball W/ Rep. Bob Onder, George Papadopoulos, Dr. Daniel Bober, Sgt. John Krupinsky. · Real America with Dan Ball

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Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America tonight. Republicans successfully advance a
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Speaker 1: new healthcare plan on a razor thin vote today, while
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Speaker 1: Democrats screaming foul over a forced showdown on Obamacare subsidies
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Speaker 1: with fill y in plus investigators announce now a second
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Speaker 1: person of interest in connection with the Brown University mass shooting.
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Speaker 1: As the search for the prime suspect continues, and our
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Speaker 1: fallen heroes returned to American soil today at Dover Air
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Speaker 1: Force Base, coming home in a dignified transfer after being
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Speaker 1: gunned down in cold blood by a member of ISIS
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Speaker 1: in Syria. I'm Dan Ball, and Real America starts right now.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing about what we know was perhaps said that
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Speaker 2: indy case, any kind of motive that is related.
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Speaker 1: At all to ethnicity or.
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Speaker 3: Political outlook or culture.
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Speaker 2: Edition nothing at all that we know right now about that,
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Speaker 2: And I think that that is a dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Road to go down. Really, why would you say that? Hmm.
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Speaker 1: That's Rhode Island's Attorney General there saying there's no known
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Speaker 1: motive yet in the Brown University shooting at all, despite
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Speaker 1: conflicting reports on social media from folks that go to
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Speaker 1: the school that were in the study group. That day.
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Speaker 1: This is now a second person of interest comes to
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Speaker 1: light today. Newly released police and Survellans footage suggests the
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Speaker 1: primary suspect in the mass shooting was in that area
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Speaker 1: for hours before the attack, casing The joint authority say
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Speaker 1: he didn't call attention to himself and may not have
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Speaker 1: yelled anything before shooting. Now why would you say that,
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Speaker 1: because there was reports that he screamed something before he
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Speaker 1: opened fire. Okay, hold on. The manhunt continues. The FBI
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Speaker 1: now offering a fifty thousand dollars reward for information leading
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Speaker 1: to the rest of this piece of human trash who
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Speaker 1: walked in and killed two innocent students on Saturday. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to remind you of who they are. Nineteen year
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Speaker 1: old Ella Cook, a sophomore from Mountain Brook, Alabama, and
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Speaker 1: eighteen year old Makhmud Aziz. Cook described as a passionate,
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Speaker 1: intellectually curious student and oh, by the way, a member
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Speaker 1: of the Republican Club, a devout Christian, and a debater.
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Speaker 1: She was a conservative. She was vocal on that liberal campus.
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Speaker 1: Nine people were also shot as of today's six and
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Speaker 1: stable condition, one still in critical, and two released from
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Speaker 1: the hospital. That's great. News. Just hours ago, Providence Police
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Speaker 1: Department released these images of that new second person of interest.
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Speaker 1: They called this person a hymn. I'm looking at the
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Speaker 1: video and see a purse, but that does look like
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Speaker 1: a guy, So I have no idea what that is.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, look at the image. Investigators asking for the
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Speaker 1: public's help and identifying this individual, who they say is
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Speaker 1: not the suspect, but a person of interest that maybe
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Speaker 1: ran into the suspect the primary person of interest. Here
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Speaker 1: you go different, look right, the green, the black, the mask,
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Speaker 1: the hoodie, the man purse fled the scene on foot
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Speaker 1: right after the shooting. Authorities say they're very confident the
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Speaker 1: person in this image is the shooter this time. Don't forget.
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Speaker 1: They arrested somebody right away after the shooting, detained them,
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Speaker 1: and then admitted it was the wrong person. New video
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Speaker 1: released yesterday shows a suspect in the neighborhood as early
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Speaker 1: as ten thirty in the morning on December thirteenth, and
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Speaker 1: police are canvassing the area now for more footage. So
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Speaker 1: let's see what our first guest thinks about this investigation
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Speaker 1: and it's handling by the Providence Police Department. Because earlier
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Speaker 1: today at that press conference, the Attorney General stepped forward
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Speaker 1: because a reporter said, we understand that the AG's office
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Speaker 1: the state level is taking over this investigation or running
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Speaker 1: it rather, is that true? Why isn't Providence Police running it?
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Speaker 1: And they backtracked and back pedaled and blah blah blah.
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Speaker 1: So anyway, our first guest knows a thing or two
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Speaker 1: about tracking down bad guys. He's a retired detective and
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Speaker 1: former president of the Connecticut State Fraternal Order of Police.
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Speaker 1: I want to welcome for the first time to real America,
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Speaker 1: Sergeant John Krapinsky. John, nice to see you. Let me
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Speaker 1: get right to it on this first question, because I
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Speaker 1: asked a few of your colleagues in law enforcement last
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Speaker 1: night on the air and off the air what they
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Speaker 1: thought of the handling, and a couple cops told me
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Speaker 1: they thought it was a shi t show. What do
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Speaker 1: you think of the handling from Providence Police? And this
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Speaker 1: police chief, who keeps fumbling most of these press conferences
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Speaker 1: backpedals on information that's already been put out, Like earlier
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Speaker 1: today they said we're not releasing what the gun was.
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Speaker 1: I thought they confirmed it was a nine millimeter on
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Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday, what do you think, John, Well, I'll.
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Speaker 3: Be honest with you, watching those press conferences, Dan, I
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Speaker 3: really can't make heag and retails of anything that's being done.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: What we don't know Again, you're also talking about there's
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Speaker 3: all admins up there, you're working good street cops and
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Speaker 3: detectives that are out there. I mean, they could be
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Speaker 3: doing a bang up job. We just really don't know.
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Speaker 3: Nothing is being really passed on by the bosses. But
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Speaker 3: there are a number of things that can be done
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Speaker 3: now to track this individual down. We also got to
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Speaker 3: remember we do have the FBI assisting them. It is
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Speaker 3: a state case, so it's being handled by the state
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Speaker 3: and the City of Providence. However, the FBI being there,
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Speaker 3: if it should pan out to be terrorism, they would
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Speaker 3: take it over, but at this time they're handling it.
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Speaker 3: And look, the FBI that we have now under Cash
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Speaker 3: and Dan is an entirely new FBI. We now have
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Speaker 3: a functioning FBI, so we're not really sure what's going
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Speaker 3: on behind the scenes. There's a lot of things that
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Speaker 3: I'm sure they are doing that we can use to
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Speaker 3: track this individual down.
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Speaker 1: I got a question about some of the backpedaling, so
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Speaker 1: one on the gun. Everybody was told it was a handgun.
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Speaker 1: Now today the AG stepped in front of the police
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Speaker 1: chief and said, we're not confirming if it's a handgun
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Speaker 1: or a long gun. We can't tell you. But I
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Speaker 1: thought that was out. That's some one. Number two, that
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Speaker 1: first mix up with detaining a guy when the police
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Speaker 1: chief was like, yeah, we got somebody in custody, and
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Speaker 1: the age had to lean forward and go, no, detained
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Speaker 1: is the word detained? Oh? Sorry, we had somebody detained.
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Speaker 1: That's two. Three. Today they address well, there's reports online
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Speaker 1: about maybe somebody's ethnicity and what the person may have yelled.
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Speaker 1: They're like, we're not confirming he healed anything. We're not
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Speaker 1: saying anything about a motive. Again, is that normal? And
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to put some of this stuff
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Speaker 1: out there if you're trying to get the community's help
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Speaker 1: to identify who this guy is. Because in all your
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Speaker 1: years of experience, you've seen the video, John, and I've
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Speaker 1: studied it at lengths from different angles. He wasn't looking around.
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Speaker 1: He was casing that specific building. Correct in what you've seen, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean it did appear that he was in the
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Speaker 3: planning phase of what he was doing there. I really
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Speaker 3: don't understand why these videos aren't being put out. I
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Speaker 3: would assume by now there's many other videos.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: One of the things that we do in the investigative
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Speaker 3: area of this is we would be hitting all the
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Speaker 3: ring doorbells in the area, and there's some other things.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to give away some of our investigative secrets,
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Speaker 3: but we can also determine every person that was in
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Speaker 3: that area and what the number their telephone is. I'd
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Speaker 3: be looking at out of area code numbers and things
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Speaker 3: of that nature. But if you remember any United Healthcare,
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Speaker 3: our suspect was arrested while in McDonald's because somebody recognized
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Speaker 3: them from the videos that they were forthcoming and putting
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Speaker 3: them out as quick as they got them, and.
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Speaker 1: That's why we got ANGIONI.
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Speaker 3: But I don't understand in this case why we're not
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Speaker 3: seeing way more things put out.
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Speaker 1: To the problem. That's why people are getting so frustrated. John,
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to ask one final question, but I
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Speaker 1: want to show this first earlier today and I won't
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Speaker 1: run the whole clipping the show video. A reporter asked
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Speaker 1: the Attorney General, who we led the show off with
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Speaker 1: about this guy named Mustafa something or other Kurback. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Mustafa Kirbach. And he said, watch it now, you're playing
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Speaker 1: a dangerous game asking about this. Well, here's why people
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Speaker 1: yesterday brought this guy up who ran their Free Palestine
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Speaker 1: movement on the campus, who obviously would be at odds
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Speaker 1: with a Christian, conservative Republican gal like Ella, who, by
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Speaker 1: the way, was shot more than once. We forget that
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Speaker 1: she was, to me, the targeted one. The other ones
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Speaker 1: were collateral damage. This is me, all right, I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying that's the facts, but yesterday multiple people confirmed that
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Speaker 1: they scrubbed. Look at says page not found that the
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Speaker 1: university scrubbed the information about this Mustafa Kerback guy. And
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Speaker 1: when the AG gets asked on the carpet today about it,
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Speaker 1: all he says is you're playing a dangerous game again.
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Speaker 1: Why the lack of transparency, the lack of information if
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Speaker 1: you want this murderer caught. And by the way, they
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Speaker 1: said today they don't think there's any more danger to
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Speaker 1: the community, So there's no more danger. Thisy isn't a
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Speaker 1: random one off psycho. He targeted somebody in that building.
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Speaker 1: Why aren't they telling us? Final word?
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Speaker 3: To you, John, Well, I've heard that also, so that
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Speaker 3: there's no danger to the community. Well, there's a danger
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Speaker 3: until somebody's in custody, Egil, what have anybody in custody
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Speaker 3: this time? So we do have somebody who committed multiple
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Speaker 3: murders out there running around, and there could be a
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Speaker 3: danger to any state in this country depending on where
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Speaker 3: that individual is from.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: So I really can't decipher some of the things being
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Speaker 3: said at these press conferences.
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Speaker 1: This is why everybody on the internet, the old internet sleuths,
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Speaker 1: and I don't give them a lot of credit either,
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Speaker 1: but sometimes, by God, if they get it right. That's
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Speaker 1: why they're asking questions, what are you covering up? What
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Speaker 1: aren't you telling us you want our help? You're saying
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Speaker 1: that you think he's still around, but he's not a threat.
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Speaker 1: But this wasn't targeted. You don't think it was ideology,
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Speaker 1: you don't think it was religion. Well what do you think?
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Speaker 1: What do you know? Anyway? John, I got to run.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully they catch this. SOB Sergeant John Krapinsk retired detective
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Speaker 1: from a president Connectut State fternal Order Police, thank you,
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Speaker 1: brother for coming on. Appreciate you. Thank you. Dan. Yeah,
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12:29
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12:32
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12:35
Speaker 1: Thune declaring that he hopes and believes there is a
12:38
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12:42
Speaker 1: the big thing is going to be will Democrats play ball?
12:46
Speaker 1: House Republicans today advance a GOP healthcare package called the
12:50
Speaker 1: lower Healthcare premiums for All Americans Act. The bill aimed
12:54
Speaker 1: at making health insurance cheaper for everyday Americans. Yeah, that'd
12:58
Speaker 1: be nice, guys. It would let small businesses and self
13:02
Speaker 1: employed folks team up to buy their own coverage, just
13:05
Speaker 1: like big companies do. That would then allow us, the
13:09
Speaker 1: regular folk, right, allow us to negotiate lower rates as
13:14
Speaker 1: one big buyer, just like the corporations do. Wow. What
13:18
Speaker 1: a novel idea. It would also require drug pricing companies
13:23
Speaker 1: to be more open about their fees, their rebates, their
13:26
Speaker 1: deals to try and help cut waste and help local
13:29
Speaker 1: pharmacies stay operational instead of just you know, a Walgreens
13:33
Speaker 1: and a CVS on every corner. I remember going to
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Speaker 1: the Rexol drug store in my hometown when I was
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Speaker 1: a kid. There was no corporate drug stores. House Republicans
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Speaker 1: also blocked a vote on extending enhanced Obamacare subsidies set
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Speaker 1: to expire at the end of the year. That's the
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Speaker 1: big one for moderate Republicans. Oh go figure joined Democrats,
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Speaker 1: reaching two hundred and eighteen signatures on haking Jeffrey's discharge
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Speaker 1: petition to force a floor vote on a clean three
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Speaker 1: year subsidy extension, potentially as early as January. The move
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Speaker 1: defied Speaker Johnson and GOP leadership who rejected those modern
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Speaker 1: Republicans amendments and prioritized their lower healthcare premiums for all
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Speaker 1: Americans Act without subsidies. We'll see if our next guest
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Speaker 1: can name those four because I'd like to know who
14:21
Speaker 1: they are, or guys in the back, get me those
14:24
Speaker 1: names and we can bring them up with our first
14:27
Speaker 1: or our next guest rather because I think the American
14:30
Speaker 1: voters should know, especially if they're a Republican voter who
14:34
Speaker 1: decided to side with Democrats over Obamacare subsidies. Wouldn't you
14:38
Speaker 1: like to know? Of course, everyone knows that Obamacare is
14:41
Speaker 1: absolutely riddled with fraud and that this thing ever since
14:46
Speaker 1: Obama brought it up and both sides passed it years ago,
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Speaker 1: it has been bleeding taxpayers, dry people use fake identities,
14:56
Speaker 1: dead people are getting money wink wink, Rampant social Security abuse,
15:01
Speaker 1: further exposing the Democrat engineered disaster to the American people.
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Speaker 1: That's what it's been. Remember remember what Obama said, if
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Speaker 1: you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. And
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna go up. Things are gonna get cheaper?
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Speaker 1: Have you seen it get any cheaper? Obamacare subsidies were
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Speaker 1: granted without documentation to ninety percent of fake accounts set
15:21
Speaker 1: up by the Government Accountability Office. Holy cow. In twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty applicants with the watchdog group applied with
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Speaker 1: nineteen initially approved. Eighteen were still active as of September
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, despite zero documentation. I want you to
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Speaker 1: think about that, adding insult to injury. The centers for
15:41
Speaker 1: Medicare and Medicaid services allow multiple enrollments on the same
15:45
Speaker 1: Social Security number. We hear helping identity theft victims. Oh great.
15:50
Speaker 1: The GAO uncovered one extreme case where one soci Security
15:53
Speaker 1: number was tied to get this. You ready, more than
15:56
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five plans in the year twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty three. Holy cow. All right, So let's find out
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Speaker 1: what's happening on the hill when it comes to these
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Speaker 1: subsidies and healthcare in America. Joining us now to discuss
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Speaker 1: he's a member of the House Oversight Committee and he
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Speaker 1: represents Missouri's third Congressional district. I want to welcome for
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Speaker 1: the first time to the program, Congressman Bob Honder on
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Speaker 1: real America, Bob, thanks for coming on. Do you know
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Speaker 1: I'm asking my team because I didn't see those four names?
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Speaker 1: Why are Republicans joining Democrats when it comes to subsidies?
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Speaker 1: I thought Republicans learned their lesson when they joined Democrats
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Speaker 1: back in the day during the Obama regime. And to
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Speaker 1: prove this crap we now known no rather as Obamacare.
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Speaker 1: It was supposed to be the Affordable Care Act, right,
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Speaker 1: So who are they? And if you don't want to
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Speaker 1: call him out, that's fine, I will at the end
16:50
Speaker 1: of your interview. And why did they jump ship on
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Speaker 1: this one? Well?
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Speaker 4: Dan, great to be on with you. One thing I
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Speaker 4: would correct is that not a single Republican has ever
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Speaker 4: voted for Obamacare. Not in twenty ten when Obamacare was
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Speaker 4: first passed, and not in twenty twenty one when Joe
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Speaker 4: Biden and the Democrats used ARPA to expand and do
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Speaker 4: these ridiculous COVID subsidies in the name of fighting a virus,
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Speaker 4: and not in twenty twenty two when those subsidies were renewed.
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Speaker 4: Not a single Republican voted with the Democrats. So this
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Speaker 4: disaster that is Obamacare is the holly owned property of
17:32
Speaker 4: the Democrats. The good news, though, Dan, is that tonight
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Speaker 4: we are going to bring to the floor We're going
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Speaker 4: to vote tonight on the Lower Health Insurance Premiums for
17:42
Speaker 4: All Americans Act, which will do just that. Will not
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Speaker 4: just address the seven million who are getting these enhanced
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Speaker 4: subsidies two years after the COVID pandemic's over, but will
17:55
Speaker 4: lower health insurance premiums for all Americans by things like
17:59
Speaker 4: association health plans, like pharmacy benefit manager reform that you mentioned,
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Speaker 4: like protecting private health insurance, and then by fixing a
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Speaker 4: problem in Obamacare called the cost youier reduction problem, we
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Speaker 4: will lower premiums by eleven percent in Obamacare itself in
18:19
Speaker 4: these Obamacare exchange plans, whereas the subsidies that are expiring
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Speaker 4: that's only four percent. So we're going to make health
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Speaker 4: insurance better. Some of the provisions that are going to
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Speaker 4: pass that are part of the bill we're considering tonight,
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Speaker 4: some have already passed on a bipartisan basis. Unfortunately, I
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Speaker 4: don't think many of our Democrat colleagues will help us tonight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sounds like it, and I'm glad that you corrected that.
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Speaker 1: My team also said I had bad information. You're on
18:44
Speaker 1: House Judiciary, not oversight, So I want to get correct
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Speaker 1: what you do for a living there for your constituents
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Speaker 1: in Missouri, Bob, So I apologize for that. So here's
18:53
Speaker 1: the deal. I'm looking at these districts of Brian Fitzpatrick,
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Speaker 1: Mike Lawler, Rob Resdahan, and Ryan Mackenzie. That's the four
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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, hmm, maybe their district isn't locked up
19:04
Speaker 1: Republican and so maybe that's why they're jumping on this,
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Speaker 1: or they've got seniors or people that think they should
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Speaker 1: go for these subsidies. Why would you want to be
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Speaker 1: in favor of these subsidies, because let me back up
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Speaker 1: one second. Wasn't it some of the healthcare subsidies that
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Speaker 1: were going to illegals that led to the government shutdown
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Speaker 1: in the Senate just a few weeks ago, we were
19:23
Speaker 1: fighting over subsidies for illegals. Why in the heck would
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Speaker 1: four Republicans want a jump ship on subsidies in Obamacare?
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Speaker 1: I make sense of it, Bob. Yeah, that's right. Democrats.
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Speaker 4: Democrats shut our government down and our workers didn't get
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Speaker 4: paid for forty three days because they wanted illegal aliens
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Speaker 4: to have Medicaid and everything you said about these enhanced
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Speaker 4: COVID subsidies, and I always call them COVID subsidies because
19:50
Speaker 4: Americans say, wait a second, wasn't COVID over like two
19:54
Speaker 4: and a half years ago? But as Ronald Reagan said,
19:57
Speaker 4: there's nothing closer to eternal life on this earth than
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Speaker 4: a temporary government program. Right, everything you said about fraud
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Speaker 4: in this program is there. So on the one hand,
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Speaker 4: you have people making like six hundred thousand dollars getting subsidized.
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Speaker 4: I don't think a waitress who makes thirty thousand dollars
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Speaker 4: should be forced to subsidize someone making six hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 4: And on the other hand, you have all these zero
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Speaker 4: premium enrollees, many of whom don't exist, right one Social
20:27
Speaker 4: Security of number being used one hundred and twenty six times.
20:31
Speaker 4: At least one hundred and twenty five of those are fraudulent.
20:33
Speaker 1: How are we going to cut that fraud out? Boy?
20:35
Speaker 1: I'm started to interrupt, but a bit later I'm going
20:38
Speaker 1: to have on John Hart. You know who he is,
20:40
Speaker 1: the CEO of openbooks dot Com. Course you do. He
20:43
Speaker 1: was on the hill last week testifying to the Senate
20:45
Speaker 1: about the fraud, waste, and abuse, and he was breaking
20:48
Speaker 1: down numbers, and he said, one of the biggest parts
20:52
Speaker 1: of this wasteful government spending. And this chart shows how
20:55
Speaker 1: much we now spend per American and like one hundred
20:59
Speaker 1: some years ago, compared to we're spending ninety eight times more.
21:02
Speaker 1: But he said, one of the biggest problems is healthcare fraud.
21:05
Speaker 1: We lose billions every year. So how are Republicans moving forward,
21:10
Speaker 1: Bob in twenty twenty six going to make sure the
21:12
Speaker 1: system isn't taken advantage of and that my tax dollars,
21:15
Speaker 1: my viewers aren't paying for dead people.
21:19
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, we started with the one Big
21:21
Speaker 4: beautiful bill. We we are requiring states to check eligibility
21:28
Speaker 4: twice a year, and we are going to crack down
21:31
Speaker 4: on the states that do things like in role illegal
21:34
Speaker 4: aliens or don't check eligibility, or tolerate waste and fraud
21:38
Speaker 4: and abuse. Boy, I mean, look at what's going on
21:41
Speaker 4: in Minnesota right now, over a billion dollars of waste
21:44
Speaker 4: question perpetrated by Somali immigrants. But I think one way
21:51
Speaker 4: we're going to get rid of waste, fraud, and abuse
21:53
Speaker 4: is letting these subsidies expire because that forty two percent
21:57
Speaker 4: zero premium category. And by the way, those who actually
22:01
Speaker 4: are real that aren't that aren't completely phantom fraudulent enrollees.
22:06
Speaker 4: They will pay under fifty dollars a month for their
22:09
Speaker 4: health insurance. And I don't think we know you or
22:11
Speaker 4: I know many people who pay less than fifty bucks
22:14
Speaker 4: a month. So if they value their health insurance at all,
22:16
Speaker 4: they'll pay the modest premiums. But then we have to
22:21
Speaker 4: root out fraud and buse elsewhere in the system, and
22:24
Speaker 4: I think PBM transparency is part of that. Right now,
22:27
Speaker 4: there are a lot of shenanigans going on, and the
22:31
Speaker 4: small community health pharmacies you mentioned are hurting. But honestly,
22:37
Speaker 4: even the big pharmacies like Walgreens are hurting. CBS isn't
22:42
Speaker 4: hurting because they're owned by a health insurance company. Yeah,
22:48
Speaker 4: that Obamacare was written by the health insurers, and that's
22:51
Speaker 4: why they are making money. Handover fist. United Healthcare stock
22:55
Speaker 4: is approximately one thousand percent since the passage of Obamacare.
22:59
Speaker 1: That's where America Democrats, that's why they just spent all
23:02
Speaker 1: that money to help Gavin Newsom get our ridiculous prop
23:05
Speaker 1: fifty through so they could screw you guys over with
23:07
Speaker 1: the redistrict. You can try and steal seats from Californians.
23:10
Speaker 1: Healthcare companies helped pay for that. I read anyway, I
23:12
Speaker 1: got a run, Bob. We could go all and on
23:15
Speaker 1: about the wasteful spending in DC of our money. We'll
23:19
Speaker 1: have you back on for more discussion on sure. Thank you, Bob.
23:23
Speaker 1: Coming up after the break. Biden's former Independent Council Jack Smith,
23:27
Speaker 1: was on Capitol Hill today getting drilled by lawmakers behind
23:29
Speaker 1: closed doors over his role in the bogus witch hunt
23:33
Speaker 1: against President Trump. This, as we learned earlier this week,
23:36
Speaker 1: the FBI warned the Biden regime they didn't have enough
23:39
Speaker 1: evidence to raid Mara a Lago, but they did it anyway.
23:43
Speaker 1: I think some folks got some explaining to do more
23:45
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26:09
Speaker 1: taking with us. And yet another bombshell example of deep
26:12
Speaker 1: state overreach tied to the corrupt Biden regime. Guess what.
26:16
Speaker 1: Newly unearthed FBI emails reveal that the Biden doj pushed
26:22
Speaker 1: ahead with that ridiculous, uncalled for I would say illegal
26:27
Speaker 1: raid to mar A Lago, President Trump's Pamby chum, despite
26:32
Speaker 1: the FBI telling the Biden regime you have zero probable cause,
26:37
Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't do it. Don't do it. I wouldn't
26:39
Speaker 1: do it, and they still did it. The FBI's Washington
26:42
Speaker 1: Field office here's some of the emails. Thank you, Cash
26:45
Speaker 1: explicitly stated, Hey, don't do that. I don't even know
26:49
Speaker 1: if should get a search warrant because you don't have
26:51
Speaker 1: probable cause for these so called classified records that you
26:54
Speaker 1: say are down there, So maybe don't do it, And
26:57
Speaker 1: yet they still did. In the summer of twenty twenty two,
27:01
Speaker 1: agents pushed for voluntary talks with Trump's lawyers instead of
27:05
Speaker 1: the raid, noting that Trump said he had already returned
27:09
Speaker 1: all documents to the National Archives, okay, and that he
27:14
Speaker 1: declassified some so you don't need a warrant. You shouldn't
27:17
Speaker 1: do this, And they still did the August eighth, twenty
27:21
Speaker 1: twenty two raid, personally approved by Biden's radical Attorney General
27:25
Speaker 1: member him, good old Merrick Garland. When they took those
27:30
Speaker 1: boxes out and they staged those pictures and tried to
27:33
Speaker 1: make you believe that Trump took something in legal bs. Yesterday,
27:37
Speaker 1: Senator Chuck Rasley released the internal documents, highlighting the FBI's
27:40
Speaker 1: frustration with Biden's DOJ's insistence on going in. We're gonna
27:45
Speaker 1: raid amid no evidence period. Now, let's fast forward to today,
27:53
Speaker 1: just hours ago behind closed doors. Unfortunately, I'd like to
27:56
Speaker 1: see how this went down. Maybe a fly on the
27:58
Speaker 1: wall situation. Jack's Smith, remember him, The former Special Council
28:02
Speaker 1: had to testify the House just Shrey Committee, desperately trying
28:06
Speaker 1: to defend his investigations into President Trump. Good luck, I
28:10
Speaker 1: hope you end up behind bars. The testimony focused on
28:14
Speaker 1: his probes into election interference and classified documents, which were
28:18
Speaker 1: dropped after Trump's twenty twenty four reelection. Of course, good
28:21
Speaker 1: old mister Smith had the audacity to say that his
28:24
Speaker 1: decisions were based solely on evidence of Trump's actions and
28:29
Speaker 1: not politics, rejecting claims that he and Jojo were weaponizing
28:35
Speaker 1: our judicial system. Okay, Republicans led by Chairman Jim Jordan
28:39
Speaker 1: a Q Smith of evidence tampering, surveillance of members of Congress,
28:43
Speaker 1: and prosecutorial misconduct. So can someone ever go to jail here?
28:49
Speaker 1: Not away? In on all this? He's a former foreign
28:51
Speaker 1: policy advisor to President Trump, co host of the Global
28:54
Speaker 1: View podcast, and author of the book Deep State. Target
28:57
Speaker 1: Are Fred George Papadopolis back on program to weigh in? George,
29:02
Speaker 1: where or where should we begin? I know you were
29:05
Speaker 1: on this program. We should have pulled the old clip
29:07
Speaker 1: from three years ago when they rated our great President's
29:10
Speaker 1: home and we knew it was bogus. Now there's black
29:14
Speaker 1: and white emails. The FBI literally told Biden's DJ you
29:20
Speaker 1: don't have enough, don't do this, and they still did.
29:24
Speaker 1: Who do we hold accountable? Who should be? What head
29:27
Speaker 1: should roll? George?
29:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, thanks for a lot for having me. Look,
29:31
Speaker 5: there's nothing more dangerous or corrosive to our republic or
29:33
Speaker 5: way of life than a two tier justice system, and
29:36
Speaker 5: what the last two Democrat administrations, meaning Obama and Biden,
29:40
Speaker 5: basically did is is usurp the rights of everyday Americans,
29:45
Speaker 5: shredded the Constitution and violated the process that goes into
29:50
Speaker 5: probable cause using the rule of law to go after
29:55
Speaker 5: criminals or to make criminal cases. The trust in the
29:58
Speaker 5: DOJ and the FBI wasasically shattered when the revelations came
30:02
Speaker 5: out that there was a legal spine under the Obama
30:04
Speaker 5: administration against the Trump campaign. And now with these new revelations,
30:09
Speaker 5: millions of Americans are basically looking at themselves in the
30:11
Speaker 5: mirror and asking the question, has a Department of Justice
30:14
Speaker 5: and the FBI and the federal government as a whole
30:18
Speaker 5: been deputized to basically go after conservatives and try to
30:22
Speaker 5: overthrow presidential administrations or prevent them from taking power the
30:27
Speaker 5: way that Jack Smith and the FBI and meryor Garland
30:29
Speaker 5: DOJ apparently did here with the raid of mar A
30:32
Speaker 5: Lago and Jack Smith's entire case against Trump. This is
30:35
Speaker 5: incredibly disturbing, and the people I think who should be
30:38
Speaker 5: held accountable are certainly Jack Smith, but we can't forget
30:41
Speaker 5: ag Garland, who actually authorizes.
30:43
Speaker 1: This yeah, And I'm going to go back and say
30:44
Speaker 1: this as a personal note, and then we'll move on
30:47
Speaker 1: to mister Smith and what's going on with him in
30:49
Speaker 1: his testimony today. My wife and I and film crew
30:53
Speaker 1: were at mar A Lago and I'll check the date
30:55
Speaker 1: to be exact, so don't quote me. This is a
30:57
Speaker 1: Pinata talk show. But we were at mar A Lago
31:00
Speaker 1: in the President's office around those ballrooms. We just showed
31:02
Speaker 1: pictures of that the FBI staged and those boxes were
31:06
Speaker 1: not there, and we were there like a week or
31:07
Speaker 1: two before, So I highly doubt that Trump and his
31:09
Speaker 1: team got these boxes out and put them there. They
31:12
Speaker 1: were so staged those photos. Now let's move to Jim
31:16
Speaker 1: Jordan and the behind closed doors testimony today. What are
31:20
Speaker 1: we looking at for Jack Smith? I mean, if they
31:22
Speaker 1: find that he was tampering with evidence and he was
31:25
Speaker 1: just doing Biden's bidding but breaking the law, this is
31:29
Speaker 1: a guy that should be behind bars. Then no.
31:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we can't actually forget that Federal Judge
31:35
Speaker 5: Cannon actually stated that he was unconstitutionally appointed. So what
31:41
Speaker 5: we have to look at is the genesis of this
31:43
Speaker 5: entire situation. This person was unconstitutionally appointed evidence was being
31:49
Speaker 5: tampered with. The Department of Justice knew that there was
31:52
Speaker 5: absolutely no probable cause whatsoever to actually take the unprecedented
31:57
Speaker 5: step to raid a former president's now president's home to
32:02
Speaker 5: retrieve so called classific classified information or documents of the
32:06
Speaker 5: president legally had an authority to do so. The while
32:10
Speaker 5: Jack Smith continued to pummel and to continue down this
32:15
Speaker 5: witch hunt against the president, all knowing that there was
32:18
Speaker 5: no probable cause and know they're there to actually even
32:21
Speaker 5: initiate this. So this is really why this is such
32:24
Speaker 5: a massive scandal. And I don't think he could actually
32:27
Speaker 5: get out of this as long as people like Congressman
32:30
Speaker 5: Jordan and others in Congress actually asked the pointed questions
32:34
Speaker 5: about what he was really up to, whether he was
32:36
Speaker 5: tampering with the evidence, and what ag Garland really wanted
32:40
Speaker 5: him to do.
32:40
Speaker 1: Right any Maybe he didn't, I don't know, But how
32:44
Speaker 1: would he not know that the FBI was telling the
32:47
Speaker 1: DOJ you shouldn't do this. Merrick Garland knew it. Jack
32:51
Speaker 1: had to know it. All right, let's switch gears real quick.
32:53
Speaker 1: Since you're a foreign policy expert, I need to throw
32:56
Speaker 1: you out there and see what you think of this.
32:58
Speaker 1: So President Trump threw up a big, big truth social
33:02
Speaker 1: post about what's happening in Venezuela. People are freaking out, saying,
33:05
Speaker 1: I thought he was the peace president. We're going to
33:07
Speaker 1: go to full war in Venezuela. Calm down, folks, We're
33:09
Speaker 1: not going to war. He's sending a message. But I'm
33:11
Speaker 1: gonna read a little bit of this and I want
33:12
Speaker 1: to get your take. Venezuela's completely surrounded by the largest
33:15
Speaker 1: armada ever assembled in the history of South America. It
33:18
Speaker 1: will only get bigger, and the shock to them will
33:20
Speaker 1: be like nothing they've ever seen until such time as
33:23
Speaker 1: they return to the United States all of the oil,
33:25
Speaker 1: the land, and other assets they previously stole from us.
33:28
Speaker 1: The illegitimate Maduro regime is using oil from these stolen
33:31
Speaker 1: oil fields to finance themselves drugs, terrorism, human trafficking, murder,
33:36
Speaker 1: and kidnapping. It goes on and on. So my question
33:38
Speaker 1: to you is I've been saying this for weeks since
33:41
Speaker 1: he started that build up down there, George. This wasn't
33:43
Speaker 1: just about the drugs. This is about this Maduro regime
33:48
Speaker 1: allowing terrorists to train there, funding them. Latin China and
33:52
Speaker 1: Russia and ran get oil from them, our biggest adversaries.
33:56
Speaker 1: He's sending a message to them by doing this down there.
34:00
Speaker 1: At your take on what's happening down near Venezuela.
34:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what the Trump doctrine really is all about.
34:06
Speaker 5: It's taking a chapter out of the playbook of the
34:08
Speaker 5: Reagan piece through Strength. The only difference is that President
34:11
Speaker 5: Trump has actually prioritized the western hemisphere, in which the
34:15
Speaker 5: United States is geographically situated. And we can't forget the
34:18
Speaker 5: Secretary of State Marco Rubio's first foreign policy trip wasn't
34:22
Speaker 5: to Asia or the Middle East, it was actually to
34:23
Speaker 5: Latin America. President Trump has actually been emphasizing the importance
34:28
Speaker 5: of securing the United States in its own backyard. And
34:31
Speaker 5: by doing so, you have to stop the drugs pouring
34:34
Speaker 5: through both the North and southern borders, and you have
34:36
Speaker 5: to actually strike at the cartels, the terrorist organizations which
34:40
Speaker 5: are freely operating in states like Mexico and Venezuela and
34:44
Speaker 5: cut off the financing, make sure that they can't export
34:47
Speaker 5: to the global market, and allow their regimes to implode
34:50
Speaker 5: from within. And once that happens, the United States will
34:53
Speaker 5: be much safer in its own backyard. That's really what
34:55
Speaker 5: the logic is here, and I wholeheartedly support the President
34:59
Speaker 5: and his efforts to secure the American homeland.
35:01
Speaker 1: The final question is more of a somber note, and
35:04
Speaker 1: I just wanted to put it out there with you because,
35:06
Speaker 1: as you and I know, freedom is not free. We
35:09
Speaker 1: wouldn't be sending this message to our enemies if you
35:11
Speaker 1: didn't have brave men and women that down the uniform
35:14
Speaker 1: and stand a post, hoop on a submarine, hop in
35:17
Speaker 1: a jet and do the job. And today, if you
35:19
Speaker 1: want to roll the video, guys, please we aired this
35:22
Speaker 1: in its entirety, and I want to thank Owen for
35:24
Speaker 1: always doing that. You don't cut away, you don't talk,
35:26
Speaker 1: You just show the dignified transfer of the bodies of
35:29
Speaker 1: these two amazing Army Iowa National Guardsmen that were gunned
35:35
Speaker 1: down by a human piece of ISIS Muslim trash in
35:41
Speaker 1: Syria while they thought they were just there doing what
35:43
Speaker 1: an exercise with Syrian forces, and he had worked his
35:46
Speaker 1: way into the Syrian forces as a member of ISIS
35:50
Speaker 1: and turned the gun on our guys, killing these two
35:54
Speaker 1: brave troops. I just wanted to show this video the
35:56
Speaker 1: President was out there. Wanted to get your take, George,
35:58
Speaker 1: and also remind folks that he didn't check his watch
36:01
Speaker 1: five times when we were bringing the boys home like
36:04
Speaker 1: Joe did when we brought the troops home from Afghanistan.
36:07
Speaker 1: Final thought to.
36:08
Speaker 5: You, George, There's never been a president, at least in
36:11
Speaker 5: my lifetime, and it certainly I think in modern American
36:14
Speaker 5: history who has cared for American troops more than President Trump.
36:17
Speaker 5: The video that we just saw on the screen here
36:21
Speaker 5: for all your viewers showcased a somber president who understood
36:25
Speaker 5: the magnitude and the gravity of the situation that the President,
36:29
Speaker 5: as commander in chief has bestowed upon himself to secure
36:32
Speaker 5: the American homeland. And patriotic Americans put their life on
36:36
Speaker 5: the line every single day, domestically and around the world
36:39
Speaker 5: to sure that American citizens are safe. This was a
36:43
Speaker 5: very terrible moment. Radical Islam is one of the most
36:45
Speaker 5: dangerous threats to the American homeland. Yes, and President Trump
36:48
Speaker 5: is dealing with this issue at a very serious level.
36:50
Speaker 1: Thank you, George, And I'm thank you for saying that,
36:53
Speaker 1: because man, I've been sounding the alarm bells about Islam
36:57
Speaker 1: not belonging in the West for years, and I really
37:00
Speaker 1: ramped it up the last few months because all you
37:02
Speaker 1: got to do is look around Australia, the UK, Canada.
37:05
Speaker 1: It's already here. We've got to stop it before. It's
37:09
Speaker 1: not just body bags from overseas coming home, but we're
37:12
Speaker 1: putting Americans in the ground because of these radical Muslims.
37:15
Speaker 1: George Papadopolos as always, thank you, brother for coming on.
37:18
Speaker 1: God bless you, take care. Thanks so much. Then yep
37:21
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37:23
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Speaker 1: we all know there's no secret here that supercharged government
40:02
Speaker 1: spending at the expense of the American taxpayer is simply outrageous,
40:08
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40:12
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40:33
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40:38
Speaker 1: According to the Congressional Budget Office their estimates, the federal
40:42
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40:51
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40:57
Speaker 1: family of four, that comes out to nearly eighty two
40:59
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in federal spending, nearly matching the median household
41:03
Speaker 1: pre tax income, which was eighty four thousand dollars in
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41:11
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41:17
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41:20
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41:23
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41:26
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41:29
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Speaker 1: Obviously we spent a heck of a lot more when
41:35
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41:40
Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen, federal spending was twoh eight per person in
41:44
Speaker 1: today's dollars compared with the twenty thousand and four seventy four.
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Speaker 1: That's a whopping ninety eight percent increase in federal spending. Sick.
41:57
Speaker 1: That's all I got to say about it. Sick. The
41:59
Speaker 1: CEO of openbooks dot Com, John Hart, testified last week
42:03
Speaker 1: before the Senate about the waste, the fraud, the abuse,
42:07
Speaker 1: and the government accountability, which obviously there's not much.
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Speaker 6: Over the past one hundred years, the federal government has
42:13
Speaker 6: grown massively. In nineteen twenty five, it's been about four
42:17
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty four dollars per person adjusted for inflation.
42:20
Speaker 6: Today that number is more than twenty thousand dollars per
42:23
Speaker 6: person in our economy.
42:24
Speaker 1: We see this law at work.
42:26
Speaker 6: The best way to make something expensive is for government
42:29
Speaker 6: to make it affordable.
42:31
Speaker 1: Earlier. I caught up with John to discuss the Open
42:33
Speaker 1: the Books report there and our tax dollars being wasted. Watch.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, John, Thanks once again for doing what you
42:42
Speaker 1: guys do best at Open the books, and that's showing
42:45
Speaker 1: all of us, to our chagrin, where they waste our money.
42:51
Speaker 1: So you r on Capitol Hill last week talking about
42:54
Speaker 1: this latest report you guys put out, and we've got
42:56
Speaker 1: some of the charts. I talked about it in your
42:58
Speaker 1: intro here, But let's just review this. We're spending a
43:03
Speaker 1: whole lot more money per person in this nation, number one,
43:07
Speaker 1: than we need do. Here's one of your charts from
43:10
Speaker 1: nineteen thirteen to twenty twenty five. Explain what I'm looking at.
43:14
Speaker 1: And by the way, there's a spike way back there
43:16
Speaker 1: in the day too. But yeah, give me this chart
43:18
Speaker 1: and tell me what's going on.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, Well, look, thanks for having me on. So
43:21
Speaker 6: I had an opportunity to testify the Senate Small Business
43:24
Speaker 6: Committee chaired by Senator Ernst who's done effect phenomenal job
43:28
Speaker 6: on a highlighting government waste in an efficiency And what
43:32
Speaker 6: that chart shows Dan is the incredible massive growth of
43:35
Speaker 6: the federal government over the past one hundred years. And
43:38
Speaker 6: it's important to think about a one hundred year increment
43:41
Speaker 6: here because the progressive movement has been on a very
43:44
Speaker 6: intentional crusade to expand the size of the scope of
43:47
Speaker 6: the federal government, and they've been remarkably successful. And what
43:51
Speaker 6: you see is is this big slope going up. So
43:54
Speaker 6: in nineteen twenty five, about one hundred years ago, we
43:57
Speaker 6: were spending four hundred and eighty four dollars per person.
44:00
Speaker 6: Today that's over twenty thousand, and so you can see
44:02
Speaker 6: these different marks where you know, of course they're World
44:05
Speaker 6: War two, there was a spike, you know, the mortgage crisis, COVID.
44:10
Speaker 6: But but if you take even those spikes out, it's
44:12
Speaker 6: been an upward slope. And again that's a very intentional
44:15
Speaker 6: effort to consolidate and focus power in the central government.
44:20
Speaker 6: And you know, that is why the founders wrote the
44:22
Speaker 6: Constitution like they did. They knew that when you create
44:26
Speaker 6: a government entity, the natural order of things as Thomas
44:30
Speaker 6: Jefferson said, is for liberty diminish to diminish and government
44:34
Speaker 6: to gain ground. And that's what we've seen again, and
44:37
Speaker 6: that's a very deliberate, intentional strategy to do that. So
44:40
Speaker 6: what we're trying to do is highlight the waste in
44:42
Speaker 6: an efficiency in government and really point people back to
44:46
Speaker 6: the founder's vision and their wisdom. You know, the Constitution
44:49
Speaker 6: is a document that is not about permission and giving
44:52
Speaker 6: government power. It's about how do we protect the power
44:56
Speaker 6: of the individual.
44:57
Speaker 1: How do we make sure that that power to governes exactly?
45:01
Speaker 5: How do you call it?
45:01
Speaker 1: This much driving the bus? Yeah, Okay, a couple more notes.
45:06
Speaker 1: This is interesting stuff in your report. By the way,
45:09
Speaker 1: so millions, if not billions over the years in health
45:12
Speaker 1: care fraud. Go figure another of your findings. This was
45:16
Speaker 1: the shocking one. Not shocking, I'm being sarcastic. From twenty
45:20
Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty twenty four, government raises rows thirty
45:26
Speaker 1: three percent faster than anything in the private sector, and
45:30
Speaker 1: federal employees making two hundred k plus, which I'm sure
45:34
Speaker 1: tons of Americans would like to make two hundred k
45:36
Speaker 1: plus rose eighty two percent.
45:39
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, and we're talking thirty. We're talking, you know,
45:42
Speaker 6: tens of thousands of government employees, not just a few hundred. No,
45:45
Speaker 6: it's an astonishing Yeah, it's astonishing growth in government and
45:49
Speaker 6: government employees. Again, you have to and the rationales while
45:52
Speaker 6: they need all these people to handle these incredibly complex
45:55
Speaker 6: things that that government assume. But of course we don't
45:58
Speaker 6: need to have the federal government doing that. You know,
46:01
Speaker 6: just as you know Secretary McMahon wants to return education
46:03
Speaker 6: to the states, why don't we return small business to
46:07
Speaker 6: small business and not have this middleman in Washington supposedly
46:11
Speaker 6: making things fair. If local governments of state governments want
46:14
Speaker 6: to do something to quote, stand in the gap if
46:17
Speaker 6: the private sector isn't working, do it at that level.
46:19
Speaker 6: But there's no reason to have a large, inefficient, grossly
46:23
Speaker 6: wasteful federal agency.
46:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't that government shutdown just prove that only in
46:28
Speaker 1: a couple areas did we actually need the Feds. Let's
46:32
Speaker 1: be real, that shutdown was how many days? Thirty? Some day?
46:34
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's be real. Another one you
46:36
Speaker 1: had in this report, we now have grown speaking of
46:39
Speaker 1: those useless agencies, because remember, folks didn't have the Department
46:42
Speaker 1: Education until the late seventies and our scores were better.
46:46
Speaker 1: You said over four hundred federal agencies and sub agencies
46:52
Speaker 1: are now on the books. What the heck do we
46:55
Speaker 1: need over four hundred agencies? I mean? And then another one,
46:59
Speaker 1: one more, one more at you. In your report, you
47:02
Speaker 1: also said you found over twenty million being paid out
47:05
Speaker 1: to nonprofit lawyers, so that when nonprofits sue the government,
47:08
Speaker 1: they settle behind closed doors, which then give the nonprofits money.
47:11
Speaker 1: So it's like a way to siphon and funnel our
47:14
Speaker 1: tax dollars over to NGOs. And we know how corrupt
47:16
Speaker 1: a bunch of the NGOs are after we watch the
47:18
Speaker 1: four year invasion thanks to Biden and Kamala Harris and
47:22
Speaker 1: the last one you had also millions being spent on
47:25
Speaker 1: bogus climate lawsuits. I'll let you have the final word
47:28
Speaker 1: on this waste of our money, No I did.
47:31
Speaker 6: I think that's really important is what happens when you
47:33
Speaker 6: give government that power, then you have other entities take
47:36
Speaker 6: advantage of it and monetize it for their own benefit.
47:38
Speaker 5: I think energy policy is a perfect are you know.
47:41
Speaker 6: The point I always make is where is the environmental
47:44
Speaker 6: justice and increasing energy prices for poor people? But that's
47:47
Speaker 6: what happens when left wing NGOs sue sue to stop
47:51
Speaker 6: energy projects because it makes the cost of energy go up.
47:55
Speaker 6: And we know from quote, if you really want to
47:57
Speaker 6: follow the science, the reality is free economies are twice
48:01
Speaker 6: as clean as less free if you want to have
48:03
Speaker 6: a cleaner environment, I don't know a single conservative who
48:06
Speaker 6: isn't a conservationist. By the way, if you want to
48:09
Speaker 6: be a good environmental steward, promote the free enterprise system,
48:12
Speaker 6: promote capitalism, promote innovation, and you'll get a much better
48:15
Speaker 6: environment because guess what, when you empower a private property owners,
48:20
Speaker 6: no one is better equipped to take care of their
48:22
Speaker 6: own lands.
48:22
Speaker 1: And a private property owner, yeah, let me tell you,
48:24
Speaker 1: I finally owned some property once again. End up. I
48:27
Speaker 1: don't want the government step and foot on it. I'll
48:29
Speaker 1: take care of it just fine as always. John Hart
48:33
Speaker 1: CEO opened the books dot com. Thank you so much
48:36
Speaker 1: for tracking our cash. Take care, happy to do it. Yeah,
48:41
Speaker 1: stick around, folks. Coming up after the break. Nick Reiner,
48:43
Speaker 1: the son of the late actor, director, and producer Rob Reiner,
48:46
Speaker 1: had his first court appearance today. The once drug addict,
48:50
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48:53
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48:56
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51:19
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Nick Reiner, the son of actor, director, and
51:21
Speaker 1: producer Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle, made his first
51:24
Speaker 1: court appearance today shackled up and wearing a suicide prevention vest.
51:29
Speaker 1: As you may know by now, the thirty two year
51:31
Speaker 1: old appeared in the LA court. Why well, because they
51:34
Speaker 1: believe he brutally murdered his mother and father. Now I'm
51:38
Speaker 1: told Ryner did not enter a plea. His attorney requested
51:40
Speaker 1: a postponement of the arraiement until January seventh. The defendant
51:44
Speaker 1: himself uttered just three words today in the courtroom. Yes,
51:47
Speaker 1: your honor, when confirming that he understood his right to
51:50
Speaker 1: a speedy trial. Reiner charged with two counts of first
51:53
Speaker 1: degree murder with special circumstances in the horrific death of
51:57
Speaker 1: his parents. He's facing life without the possibility of parole.
52:02
Speaker 1: I don't know about the death penalty because, as you know,
52:03
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom stayed the death penalty in the state of California.
52:07
Speaker 1: Robin Michelle Reiner were stabbed to death. Were told sometime
52:10
Speaker 1: around Sunday while sleeping in their Bentwood home. Their bodies
52:14
Speaker 1: discovered by their daughter Romie the next day. Rob Reiner
52:18
Speaker 1: had expressed fears about Nick's deterreting mental health for years
52:22
Speaker 1: and years. Among his son's long history of substance abuse,
52:27
Speaker 1: including meth. Prior attempts at sobriety didn't work, Nick was
52:32
Speaker 1: thought to be using drugs again, and his parents feared
52:35
Speaker 1: for his mental state over the past few months. Family
52:38
Speaker 1: friends say the tensions between Nick and his parents escalated
52:41
Speaker 1: dramatically twenty four hours before Rob and Michelle were discovered
52:46
Speaker 1: with their throats slashed. Robin Nick Roppoley argued at a
52:52
Speaker 1: holiday party hosted by Conan O'Brien on Saturday Night. There's
52:57
Speaker 1: even a connection possibly in this argument with the SNL
53:00
Speaker 1: star Bill Hayter. It's a convoluted thing. I don't want
53:03
Speaker 1: to talk so much about the murder, what led up
53:07
Speaker 1: to it, but more about their son's mental state, his
53:11
Speaker 1: drug use, his years of homelessness, how he interacted with
53:14
Speaker 1: his family, and so joining us now to discuss more
53:16
Speaker 1: about that. He's a mental health expert and a psychiatrist,
53:20
Speaker 1: Doctor Daniel Bober on the program for the first time. Doc,
53:24
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. This is a big problem in
53:27
Speaker 1: this country, and we always talk about it every time
53:30
Speaker 1: there's a shooting. This wasn't a shooting. This wasn't something
53:34
Speaker 1: where someone is going into a school or a movie
53:36
Speaker 1: theater and just taking out rage and problems. This was
53:39
Speaker 1: it sounds like building for years. This young man had
53:42
Speaker 1: a lot of addiction problems. He was homeless for several
53:45
Speaker 1: years on and off. There was a bouts of violence
53:51
Speaker 1: were told in the home and out in public over
53:53
Speaker 1: years and years. All the while I saw half a
53:57
Speaker 1: dozen interviews of Rob and Nick sitting together talking about
54:00
Speaker 1: the problems and acting like they were working through them
54:03
Speaker 1: for a good two decades almost. I mean some of
54:06
Speaker 1: his first problems spiked around fifteen sixteen. What got missed here, Doc?
54:11
Speaker 1: What got missed?
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Speaker 7: Well, listen, it's really the perfect storm, right. You have
54:17
Speaker 7: someone who has a history of addiction, who has poor
54:19
Speaker 7: coping skills, poor impulse control, can't regulate their emotions, living
54:25
Speaker 7: in a home with parents who've probably spent millions of
54:28
Speaker 7: dollars on his treatment. He's been very open about the
54:31
Speaker 7: fact that he struggled with mental health problems and addiction.
54:36
Speaker 7: Who knows what that argument was about. Maybe they were
54:38
Speaker 7: asking him to move out. Maybe he was intoxicated at
54:42
Speaker 7: the time, he used stimulants, Maybe he was paranoid, maybe
54:45
Speaker 7: he was psychotic and delusional. It's very difficult to know.
54:50
Speaker 7: But I see this every day. I see parents who
54:53
Speaker 7: spend so much money on their kids to try to
54:55
Speaker 7: get them treatment from very successful celebrity families. And the
55:00
Speaker 7: problem is is that these kids growing up have so
55:03
Speaker 7: many outlets to instant gratification. They never hear the word know,
55:07
Speaker 7: and they never experienced the natural consequences of their actions.
55:11
Speaker 1: But he was there in the streets hold on Doc
55:13
Speaker 1: a couple times throughout his life. And again, if you're
55:16
Speaker 1: a rich family, you could make sure, he's not on
55:18
Speaker 1: the streets. He was homeless several times, and so was
55:22
Speaker 1: it a thing of maybe they were raising their hands
55:24
Speaker 1: here or there and getting tired of it, and maybe
55:26
Speaker 1: that pushed him again. I'm not going to try and
55:29
Speaker 1: get in the mind of someone who had this addiction
55:31
Speaker 1: problem obviously mental health issues, but get your point in
55:35
Speaker 1: that if you're given everything, how are you going to learn?
55:38
Speaker 1: But he was homeless, and these were longer bouts of homelessness.
55:42
Speaker 1: So I got to think, when you're a Rob Reiner
55:44
Speaker 1: type with that kind of money power and influence, even
55:47
Speaker 1: if he wouldn't respond to react to his parents, you
55:49
Speaker 1: could have paid for somebody to get him off the streets.
55:53
Speaker 7: Sure, and some therapists or some psychiatrists probably told them
55:56
Speaker 7: what I just said, which is this is what you
55:58
Speaker 7: have to do, because only when he's at the bottom
56:01
Speaker 7: is he going to realize that his behavior has created
56:05
Speaker 7: these consequences. And he probably was cleaned for a while,
56:09
Speaker 7: and then he probably came back in the home and
56:11
Speaker 7: he relapsed again. This is a cycle that's unfortunately, something
56:15
Speaker 7: that's day in and day out until something like this
56:18
Speaker 7: happens is stop.
56:20
Speaker 1: What's the warning signs? Doc, this is your profession, how
56:22
Speaker 1: do we I mean, obviously they dealt with it behind
56:24
Speaker 1: closed doors, and being a public family, they probably didn't
56:26
Speaker 1: want all their dirty laundry aired. But for the folks
56:29
Speaker 1: that aren't millionaires, that aren't famous, that are having a
56:31
Speaker 1: son or a daughter dealing with mental issues, and then
56:35
Speaker 1: add the drugs on top of it, and then they
56:36
Speaker 1: probably prescribed some drugs, which I hate prescription drugs too.
56:39
Speaker 1: It's drugs, drugs, drugs for everything. How about find God? Sorry,
56:43
Speaker 1: I'm a Christian. What are the warning signs? And how
56:47
Speaker 1: do we as parents do something to intervene and stop
56:50
Speaker 1: this from happening? God forbid, he would have done it
56:52
Speaker 1: to somebody innocent on the street. He did it to
56:54
Speaker 1: his parents.
56:57
Speaker 7: Well, listen, there's a genetic component to this. Certainly, sometimes
57:00
Speaker 7: it's in your blueprint, it's in your DNA. But then
57:03
Speaker 7: there's how you're raised, right, exactly what we're talking about,
57:06
Speaker 7: experiencing the natural consequences, unconditional love, support, being present, being
57:11
Speaker 7: a good parent, all these things are important. And then
57:14
Speaker 7: of course there is exposure to trauma which sets the
57:17
Speaker 7: stage for this. And then once the stage is set,
57:20
Speaker 7: there's some intervening event, whether the person got high or
57:23
Speaker 7: whether they went into withdrawal, or whether there was an
57:26
Speaker 7: argument or some form of public humiliation that the person
57:29
Speaker 7: perceived that they were slighted, and that's that's what it
57:32
Speaker 7: leads to.
57:32
Speaker 1: Good point. So now, okay, now I'm connecting the dots
57:35
Speaker 1: because sources are saying at the Conan O'Brien party, actor
57:39
Speaker 1: Bill Hayter and Nick and Dad were arguing about something.
57:43
Speaker 1: So there you go. Maybe there was public humiliation that
57:46
Speaker 1: was I think a Friday or Saturday party, and then
57:49
Speaker 1: sometime between Saturday night Sunday morning is when he killed them. Doc,
57:53
Speaker 1: thanks for weighing in. Is definitely a tragedy. I didn't
57:56
Speaker 1: align with mister Reiner and his political view As a
57:58
Speaker 1: matter of fact, we were polar opposite because of the
58:00
Speaker 1: heinous things he would say about President Trump and mag
58:02
Speaker 1: of folks like myself. But nobody ever wants to wish
58:05
Speaker 1: death upon someone, especially this type of heinous and absolutely,
58:08
Speaker 1: Doctor Daniel Bober, thank you for coming on. Appreciate you
58:13
Speaker 1: so much, as take care. Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, folks,
58:16
Speaker 1: remember stick around. President Trump actually about to give a
58:19
Speaker 1: speech any minute right here on om. We'll be taking
58:21
Speaker 1: that speech in full, and I'll see it tomorrow night,
58:23
Speaker 1: eight eastern, five Pacific. Until then, you all know what
58:26
Speaker 1: to do. Be proud Americans, be brave out there, and
58:28
Speaker 1: God bless you today