Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / A 4th Sister Of Mythology Unveiled The Lost Daughter Of Sparta From Felicia Day

Transcript

A 4th Sister Of Mythology Unveiled The Lost Daughter Of Sparta From Felicia Day · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Soby checked it out yet ero dot net. It's not
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: just a podcast, it is several different podcast platforms, twenty
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: to be exact. One of them is vocal dfrag. Come on,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: we're always asking everybody around us, what would you do?
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: How should I do it? Where should I go? Why
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: not ask yourself the questions? But how do you do that?
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: That's what vocal dfrag is all about. Only on ero
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: dot net, rre dot net. Enjoy your exploration. Good morning, Felicia.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: How are you doing today.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: I'm great, very nice to speak to you. Er Man.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited to share a conversation with you because
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: you are at a level of basically when it comes
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: to sharing stories that you're offering pictures. This is the
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that I wanted as a young adult.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: But you know, it was one of those where you
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: had to go to the comic book store, or you
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: had to go into a certain area of the store
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: where it was announced that, oh, you can only be
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: so old to be in here to get these graphic novels.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Thank God that you understand where readers are and we
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: need these storylines.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: This my new book is for thirteen and up probably
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: is appropriate. And I'm very excited because I think comics
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: are for everyone. Graphic novels are for everyone, and the
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: storytelling really is a different it's a different medium, but
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: also really rewarding and beautiful.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: Well, my grandson has dyslexia and it's these graphic novels
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: that have saved his life. You should see how happy
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: this boy is today as a young adult compared to
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: what he was before he got into graphic novels.
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter is nine and she solely wants to
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: read graphic novels. I'm trying to kind of push her
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: into chapter books, but hey, if she's reading, I'm not
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: going to complain.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: So you've got something here that I mean, we've all
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: heard stories, but now you're talking about a fourth sister
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: that's been introduced here, and now makes me want to
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: go back to all the different stories and find out
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: if there's any Easter eggs along the way.
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: If you want to dive into Greek mythology, it's all
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: Easter eggs.
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: So that's the beautiful thing about eighteen.
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, ancient writing has so many things that you would
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: never I mean, I know scholars who've been studying for
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: twenty years and they're still stumbling across things that they
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: didn't hadn't uncovered before.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: But yes, you're right. The youngest sister of Helen of Troy.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: Her name is Philinoe, and she's only mentioned in one
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: line of extant script.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: So I found it what.
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: I was very insomniatic after my baby was born. I
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: couldn't sleep for two years she didn't sleep, and then
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: after that I couldn't sleep, And so I read Greek
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: mythology to kind of call me down before bed because
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: it's interesting but not too exciting. And through just kind
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: of looking online and looking at a name and seeing
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: who their family was and seeing any stories about them,
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: I found this one fragment that had nothing else about
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: her and anywhere I could find, and so I wanted
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: to learn more, and I wrote the story myself.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the part of writing that I
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: love the most, when you get to do the research,
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: because you know it goes all the way back to
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: your elementary school teachers that would say I need you
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: to copy this, I need you to copy this, I
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: need you to research this, and you hated it. But
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: as an adult, you're going, oh, my god, they were
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: on track, just like mom and Dad were always right.
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:07
  Speaker 3: No, I mean that's the greatest gift you can give
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: a kid, the curiosity. I want to dive in more
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: about something, regardless of what grade they're going to give
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: you get. And I was homeschooled, so that's all I
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: did at home. I never got grades. So if I
• 3:17
  Speaker 3: was interested in something, I'd just read all the books
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: I could find and then move on to another subject.
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: So I did that with this, and I'm very excited
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: for people to read it.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: Tell me that you and Rowan did not sit back
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of times during the writing process and the
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: creativity when it comes to the illustrating, and you thought
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: about the T shirts or some way to market this,
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: because come on, it's there, it's written all over it
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: that there's got to be a product because this generation
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: and younger we love merch.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I would love to make T shirt.
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: I think that Rowan's beautiful illustrations are absolutely gorgeous. And
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: I'm really hoping that people want more feel in oa
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: in their life or just to share the book, because
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: this is a book that makes people cry when I'm
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: signing it at books and I don't mean to be
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: excited that people are crying, but that means I did
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: my job.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: But you know what's really interesting about this, Felicia, is
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: that we've all, and I'm guilty of this, we all
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: think of Aphrodite and we go, oh, Aphrodite. So many
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: people have been named with the Aphrodite name, and we've
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: named our school, and we've named this, and yet you
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: give us a different side of Aphrodite that Oh my god,
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: It's like, why did we even honor the aphrodite the way.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: That we do? Oh that's so sweet.
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I really wanted to take a lot
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: of tropes from because there's been so many wonderful writers
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: writing this in Greek pathology for thousands of years, and
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: recently there's so many reimaginings of especially female characters like
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: Sirce by Madeline Miller. Natalie Haynes is also an amazing
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: author who writes retellings of these characters, and so you know,
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: I had to do my own version, and I needed
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: to sort of subvert some of the things that I
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: found were in myth but also fairy tales that I
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: wanted to kind of undermine or change people's attitudes about
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: especially my daughter, who is so important to me. And
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: you know, as little girls go into the world, especially women,
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: they're confronted with a lot of things. And I just
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: wanted to prepare her to be true to herself and
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: stand up for herself in every way that she could
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: as she goes he grows up.
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: Because we like to write from our personal experiences and journeys.
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: So do we see this book evolving as your daughter
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: starts to age, because I mean, I mean, there's so
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: many different things here that could take place that involves
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: your daughter, or maybe in future books you introduce your
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: daughter somehow into the story.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love that idea.
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: Because she is named Calliope, she's named after the Greek
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: use of the yeah exactly.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: I think this is a good book that you know,
• 5:42
  Speaker 3: again it's I would I would recommend thirteen and up,
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: but not for any reason that it's inappropriate for a
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: younger kid to read it. I would just urge you,
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: as any parent, always screen what your kids write read.
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: But you know, there's some themes in there that I
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: think if she reads it when she's a little older,
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: should get more out of it. And that's any great
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: you know, hopefully that's any great book. You know, you
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: read it at one point in your life and then
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: you change, and then you read something again and then
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: you see it in a completely different way. And that's
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: the beauty of storytelling, right. It meets you where you are,
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: wherever you are in your life.
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: That's telling capability. Though, when you're teamed up with your illustrator,
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to blend together. What comes first,
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: the chicken or the egg? Does a story come first?
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: Or does he draw something or Rowan draw something that
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: really makes you go I never thought about that, Rowan,
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go that direction. Give me five minutes
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: to reroute my words. Yeah.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: I wrote the script and then I paneled it out,
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: so I was kind of specific about like, Okay, in
• 6:40
  Speaker 3: the top panel you're going to see the landscape, and
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: then the next panel will be a close up.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: And then I sent the script over.
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: To her and I was like, Okay, go ahead and
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: change things if you don't, you know, if you're not
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: feeling it, I'd say like eighty to ninety percent is
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: the same. And then when I get some paneled back,
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: I would just be in tears sometimes because I'm like, oh,
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: She made that moment so much more beautiful than it
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: was in my head.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: So it was a wonderful collaborative process.
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: And as somebody who cannot draw at all, it was
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: a little magical sending my words off and getting pictures back.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: Oh that's see. That whole entire experience is why I
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: even do this thing with you. For the writing instrument
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: for iHeartRadio is the fact that the goal is to
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: get those writers at home to move You did you
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: figured out a way to move everything that was growing
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: forward instead of hiding it in a box somewhere in
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: the attic.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you know this started.
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: I've been working on this for six years, so I
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: started writing it just when COVID hit Yeah, And it
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: was actually the reason why I started writing it, because
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: of course, we have so many stories in us, right.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: Every single person is a storyteller.
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: This is what we are as humans, and yet we
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: have all these inhibitions. We don't have time, we don't
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: have faith in our stories. And I was kind of
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: at that place. I was pitching Hollywood all these stories
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: over and over again, and they would.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: Just reject them.
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: And it was years of that and I kind of
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: lost confidence in myself as a creator. And so when
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: the world shut down down and I had a chance
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: to breathe and look inward, I was like, hey, guess what,
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: I'm actually good at what I do.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: It's just not good for them.
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: And so I gave myself the permission to make the
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: story that probably you know, who knows, if Hollywood never care,
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: It's fine because it still is a valid, beautiful story
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: that I'm so glad I got into the world.
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: And so having that inner strength and interfaith in.
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: Yourself is really difficult, but that's what you have to
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: harness to get through the hard process of creating.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Felicia Day coming
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: right up the name of her new book, The Lost
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: Daughter of Sparta. We are back with Felicia Day. You know,
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: I've always thought of that COVID lockdown as being the
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: folklore of this generation. And here's the reason why I
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: was talking with the creative people at that time. They
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: were angry, I mean, my aphrodity angry. We're gonna put
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: some curses on things. And then to hear all of
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: these great, amazing stories coming out of that time period,
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: it's like nobody's writing about it on how it was
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: really that platform that gave creative people permission to take
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: a chance to do things that were different.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, it was.
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: A mass trauma that we all experienced, and that's something
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: that we have in common. It hopefully brings us together
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: and it brings us back to ourselves. There are a
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: lot of turning points in your life, right you get
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: out of college or get out of high school, you
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: get married, you have a kid, you retire. Those are
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: big points in your life that everything gets shaken up.
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: You're not going to voluntarily shake up your whole life,
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: but these are the points that we all kind of have,
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: and then we kind of reevaluate what we did with
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: our life, and sometimes you have regret and sometimes you
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: wish you had done something. So for me, when you
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: look at a trauma like that and a shake up
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: and kind of forcing you to change what you wouldn't
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: have changed just out of sheer habit, then you have
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to maybe be on a track that you
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: never would have been on before because it was too
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: scary or just change is hard. So I try to
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: look at the blessing of it all, even though the
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: trauma is very real.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Well see I used to call those wine glass moments,
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: but when you're doing a graphic novel for ya readers,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: I can't call it that. So I'm just gonna call
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: it a kool Aid moment where you went in there
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: and said, I'm gonna change it up a bit because
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: we're going to do something differently to create conversation.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: That's it. It's a boba tee. That's it. That's what
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: the kids eating.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: That's so true. That is so true. So I've been
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of digging up when it comes to lore,
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: and lore comes with a lot of mystery, and it
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: comes with a lot of energy from the planet. And
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: the reason why I brought this up is because I'm
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: on this big kick right now that for thirty four days,
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: this writing instrument that I have has to go into
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: the soil for each one of the seasons, and and
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: and doing the research on it, they said, that's folk lore.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you, what did you do
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: in putting this graphic novel together that connected you to
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: folk lore. You had to have done something that was
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: very you know, very mythology.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's such a profound question. Thank you. I mean,
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: folklore is something I love I love.
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: The stories of people because you can learn about who
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: they were, and you know, there's nothing better than reading
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: something from three thousand years ago and they're complaining about
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: they're complaining about traffic, or they're complaining about somebody, you.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: Know, a takeout place that gave you terrible bread.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: Like we're all the same, right, and their world was
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: also different, but it was also it was different from
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: the exterior, like what they had access to some of
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: the rules of society, and you kind of realize a
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: lot of these rules are arbitrary and they're maybe not fair,
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: and that's kind of the journey. This is a story
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: of a girl who's confronting like what women kind of
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: face should they go into the world. And so you know,
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: I'm drawing from universal female experience from fairy tales. I mean,
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: this is a story that starts off with a princess
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: being married off to a prince.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: That's a very universal story.
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: But I didn't want my daughter to see herself as
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: something that had no agency and was being given to
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: someone as a prize.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's just not okay.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: We're all equal, and to have this sort of lore
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: that kind of teaches girls they're not equal at a
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: very young age, is like, it's not it's.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: Clear and not accurate. So that was kind of what
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: I wanted to dig into.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: But also I took some of my very favorite, you know,
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: figures from mythology, Greek mythology, and I put them in here.
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: So monsters that FELINOI encounters just like Hercules and Heracles encounters,
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: and these are monsters, but they're not really monsters. I
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: turn them up sign on their head, and I hope
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: that people see that because nobody is black and white, right,
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: we see each other as a lot of people see
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: each other as enemies now, but we're not.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: We're really there's things that are in common.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: And I hope this compassionate journey kind of reaches across
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: and just so we'd hold hands a little bit more,
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: because I think it would make the world a little
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: bit better.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: Well, the vibe that I picked up on is kind
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: of a mantra that I live in, and that is
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: is that when there are bullies or people that we
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: think are monsters, I like to just go up and
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: kill them with kindness. Just go there and be nice
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: to them, go up there and be weird. And if
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: I can get them to crack a smile. Oh my god,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: this one right here, it's in the books. Now.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you're right.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: Humor is like the great bridge that you can, you know,
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: build between each other. Right, we can all laugh at
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: a fart joke. It's just I don't care who you are.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: It's funny.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: Look I do it with Alexa all the time. I
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: just go, Alexa, start my day off, give me a
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: good one right now, so I can just laugh.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: But you're yes, Oh that's amazing.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: I'm a guy. Guys do things like that, you know.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: That's part of our lore.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry.
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't admit it if I did that, but I
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: would probably would. So.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: Now, when you craft the humor that goes into your stories,
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: I'm always amazed by that because the comedians that I
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: share conversations with it's always about well, it took me
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: like months to be able to get this down, But
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: I'm so inspired by authors that feel the moment, Trust
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: the moment, go with the moment.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: I think that's a function of knowing yourself. Oh and
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: it really is for me. And sometimes the creativity comes first.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: That's the self care, that's the self discovery. That's the
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: self development you need, and sometimes it's just going and
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: figuring yourself out out more with either external help like
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: therapy or journaling, or reading books that are like self Helpy,
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: which there's nothing wrong with that. I wrote one myself
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: and Brace Your Weird as a creativity book that really
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: trains you to go in and figure what your past was,
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: what is your present, what are your dreams? And when
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: you know that about yourself, then you could be the
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: creator you want because you know what's important for you
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: to say, whether it's funny, whether it's tragic.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: You have to really be invested.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: You have to be the only one who could tell
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: the story, and it has to be important to you
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: deep down for you to get to the hard parts
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: of creating. And I think that that's why you know
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: I'm a creator. I want to explore the world. I
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: want to share with the world, but I also want
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: to get to know myself better because we're all very
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: interesting and we don't give ourselves credit.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: I think I.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Want to know how many songs that you hummed while
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: you were putting this together, because I mean, I would say,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: can you give us some music out of this? You
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: probably say ey sing out a dream, blah blah blah blah.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, though, is that there's too much
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: music inside these paragraphs. There's too many there's too much emotion.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: That you did not hum or create a song while
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: you were doing this.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I was a violin major and so I love
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I love classical music.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: I did. Actually, I forgot that you are actually reminding me.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I put together a playlist of some of the things
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: that I listened to and it's all from girl empowerment
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: anthems to ancient Greek music to pro coffee of you know,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: so I do have a Spotify thing and I should
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: actually share that because I absolutely forgot I put it together.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it gives you when when I'm reading, I
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: like to listen to say, I always call it hand music,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: just get something in my head so I can turn
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: off those voices and put and put focus on the
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: story itself.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's beautiful.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I have a problem in that I was a violinist,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: and so when I listened to music, I was used
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: to playing, you know, practicing eight hours a day in
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: a small practice room of silence, right, and so I
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: can rewrite with music on but I have to have
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: absolute silence when I'm working, you know, that first draft.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: For some reason, I just cannot have distractions. Everybody works differently.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: And again, then if you try to create anything, you
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: have to know what your process is.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know that. For years.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize, Oh, I'm not a kind of person
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: who could just put an outline down and just follow it.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not the kind of person who doesn't rewrite anything.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: And the fact that I thought it was a failure
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: because I couldn't work like other people really inhibited me
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: for so long. When I gave myself that again, compassion
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: and kindness, and I said, hey, you're unique. What is
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: this unique way that you need to work that makes
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: you feel joyful when you create, versus like depressed and stressed.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And so again, that self knowledge through whatever it is
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: you're trying to channel is the thing that I think
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: is the most rewarding with creativity, as well as how
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: you say what you say affecting other people.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Are you using hidden speak? That's what I call it.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: When we have a moment where it could be like
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: depressing or dark or something, but you use hidden speak
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: to turn to make it a happier moment. You're using
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the dark words, but you're doing it in a way
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: to where the reader feels upbeat and positive. So I
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: call that hidden speak interesting.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think if you can make everything
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: that you write, and that's why I work so slow.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I mean six years, I have things coming out much
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: more frequently than six years, hopefully in the future. But
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the more layers you can put on something, the more
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: you could really kind of think about it and infuse it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I think that's you know, it definitely lasts longer if
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: you have If you're able to read something more than
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: once and take a little bit from it that you
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: didn't expect before, that's that's real art. You're putting something
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: out in the world that is your immortality in a way.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: All right now, okay, now you got to take because
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you said it, you said it put the layers there,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: so right away I have to go to your podcasting
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the way of saying, did you learn this layering art
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: from podcasting? Because podcasting is all about texture and layers.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably more about twitch streaming.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Love.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I love video games. I love and you know they
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: got me through COVID. I think that my being cut
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: off from Hollywood and a lot of toxic things that
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I was trying to do with my life.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I cut it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Off and then I just streamed a lot and that
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: community and just having some joy with the audience that
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: really helped me get the courage to be able to
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: put the story down.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: So I attributed to.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That, Wow, you got to come back to this show
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: anytime in the future. But before you jump off, where
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: can we go to find out more information about you
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: so we can jump onto your writing journey.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: You could go to anywhere online, in.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Social media, Felicia Day, feliciaday dot com, and The Lost
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Daughter of Sparta is available in stores, in physical form
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: and also in audiobook form.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, Miss Felicia, Okay, thanks
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a lot.