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Why ADULT AUTISM Diagnosis Is (IMPORTANT) · Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD

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  Hey guys, it's going on Welcome Back.
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  This one's a bit different. I'm doing something.
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  I'm actually recording a podcast episode and I'm visually
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  recording it so I actually have a guest because I wanted to this
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  one. This is for the things I'm
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  starting off with and this is my friend Laura.
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  I don't know if it is a damn nose that then others does you
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  have a crazy last name or something?
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  So I've got it down as it done from is that what it is is it's
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  an average but I just say stand because it's so much easier.
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  Ah, Stan, okay. Okay, so but her podcast is not
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  Your typical podcast and you can get them on Instagram.
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  I'll leave all links below. Anyways, you guys can see
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  exactly what is going on with Instagram and stuff.
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  I think your Instagram was pretty dull, but I found you
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  actually I think we cross pass on Instagram.
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  Yeah, we've got it. So yeah, that was really fun and
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  you join it. Yeah, you can tell me a little
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  bit about your podcast and something audience what's going
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  on? Sure.
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  So my podcast Really a way to kind of process and deal with my
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  late diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder.
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  Basically, I my son was diagnosed around eight with
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  autism spectrum disorder. And as I kind of learned about
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  the whole autism world and what autism actually looks like which
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  I was shocked that I really wasn't aware of the
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  presentations. You know, what I'm a majority of
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  people I started to kind of be like wait, that sounds like me
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  or that sounds like me as a kid or you know, just all these
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  light bulbs started going off and about a week after my son
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  was diagnosed. I took an Autism Spectrum
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  quotient test and I scored a 40 out of 50, which is a diagnostic
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  tool. Yeah diagnostic tool used
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  commonly here in the u.s. Through psychologists and
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  psychiatrists and stuff and I was like, wow, I think I have
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  autism like I had it was shocking because I really didn't
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  know much about it and it was processing it and I decided to
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  kind of go online and look all around and see if other people
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  are going through the same thing as me and I found a lot of
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  information but not really the information I was looking for so
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  I was like, you know what I didn't find too many podcasts.
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  I found I found your podcast which was really educational and
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  your YouTube which which I really appreciated and a couple
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  others, but I also didn't hear too much too.
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  Many women. I would say going through
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  similar things on podcasts and YouTube and thing like that
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  things like that. So I was like, you know what?
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  I'm just going to start recording what I'm going through
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  and that's how a my podcast started and it's called not
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  neurotypical podcast and it really is just my journey and a
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  lot of it happened real time. So it was Real-time processing
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  of every step of the way through thinking I have possibly have
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  autism to getting the evaluation to actually getting diagnosed
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  and then processing the diagnosis.
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  So that's kind of the whole thing.
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  Yeah, and it's still kind of going I'm still processing
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  because this was only four months ago sure it sounds super
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  also for you. I didn't I love it because like
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  even though I know you said that he said I was just my story and
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  my kind of Journey but it like everything adds value.
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  So like you are definitely going to add value blue George.
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  Experiences are unique and your experiences may be able to kind
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  of resonate with somebody else. And if they find that resonation
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  I'll be like. Oh, yeah, and I think that's
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  great. And I love that people sharing
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  their personal stories because it means so much to other
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  people. It's also yes.
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  Yes, so I've gotten a lot of feedback from my followers,
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  especially on Instagram and people listen to the podcasts
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  and it's been really positive which has meant so much to me
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  because you're kind of putting yourself out there.
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  You've no idea how people are going to accept the information
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  and and the the Autism world is a little scary to dive into
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  there's a lot of strong feelings and emotions.
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  And of course, it's a very it can be polarizing.
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  So it was scary gem, but it helped me to process it through
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  discussing it with just putting myself out there and opening the
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  invite for others to kind of share with me as well and it
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  helped a lot. Definitely, I think like one of
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  the things that you touched on that about the Alton community
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  and a whole is kind of like especially autistic adults there
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  so they can be quite opinionated and those opinions are strong
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  opinions can be quite destructive sometimes and I feel
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  like that does turn a lot people away.
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  And one thing I kind of deal with that is I say like this,
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  you know, we're all doing the same thing and some people have
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  certain views on some things and just leave them to it, you know,
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  no matter how destructive or negative it may seem just land.
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  Do you know they're just always be going through something and
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  they're learning something themselves.
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  So it's kind of like never get like scared about the community
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  and then we watching this. Things like I've come across as
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  before just don't worry about it.
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  You know, keep going do what you doing.
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  You're doing great. Nobody's doing anything wrong.
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  Basically. We're just doing our best and
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  that's all we can ask for really so today's episode is we're
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  talking about late Autumn diagnosis and I want to talk
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  specifically about why not adult or some diagnosis is very
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  important. And while it diagnosis is
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  important because I was diagnosed 26 years old with
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  Asperger's syndrome and ADHD because it was when they were
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  still diagnosing as I suppose is not just like ASD and before
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  that actually have a lot of gnosis, you know growing up with
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  like dislikes here and like, you know, maybe you'll see D and
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  things and they officially diagnosed when I was 26 with
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  Asperger's syndrome and ADHD and OCD in that was kind of like a
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  bombshell that was kind of like whoa, right?
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  Like I didn't know anything about it.
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  I thought the time in 2013. I was like, you know, I'd my
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  wife were going one way and then I get this diagnosis and it's
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  like oh like that's what it is. And so it was a very difficult
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  and interesting time, but I realize now like to me
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  personally, I would say that an adult Is important because what
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  it did is accessed support and help and that assistance what
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  helped actually helped ease after the issues in my life that
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  would like horrendously devastating, you know, and I
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  would want to ask you a question like so how do you feel about
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  like, why would you say I don't like gnosis is important for
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  autism. Well, I think it's so important
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  because self advocating for I mean no matter what you have or
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  are going through it. So important to know how to
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  self-advocate and get the support you need whether that is
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  through your city or through your spouse or through your mom
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  and dad or wherever you need support and without really in my
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  opinion knowing what you are dealing with internally or
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  whatever struggle you're having. It's so hard to advocate for
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  yourself and figure out what type of support you actually
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  need. So for me the diagnosis is was
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  all about bringing that to light and figure out.
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  Okay, where am I? Where do I need to grow?
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  What support do I need and my Sure of what I needed after my
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  diagnosis changed a lot. So there's been a lot of growth
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  since then but I wouldn't have had that if I didn't really know
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  what I was dealing with hundred percent.
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  It's kind of like when you're in the dark and you kind of figure
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  out like where do I go from here?
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  What am I trying to do? When someone says, oh no, it's
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  this there's already these outlines and templates have ways
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  to help then you have somewhat of a grounding say okay, which
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  more sense exactly and I think that's kind of comforting as
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  well and it's kind of like it's a relief because it's a stress
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  of like because I grew up. I'm thinking like oh my God,
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  what is wrong with me? Like, you know, I couldn't I
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  just felt like I just felt completely odd, you know, I felt
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  like an outside of the circle my friends.
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  I felt like completely isolated and I did they didn't like
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  things I like and I didn't understand how I was behaving
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  and it was kind of like one of those things where I thought oh
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  my goodness that this must be something devastatingly wrong
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  with me, but there's nothing wrong.
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  It's just that it happens to be a condition and I think a
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  diagnosis kind of helps you go. Yeah.
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  It's just I'm not like broken right just a bit different or
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  clicks and I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid.
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  So I was very familiar with you know neuro diversity in general
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  and kind of I had accepted that obviously because I had a long
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  time to process that and I am still diagnosed with ADHD, but
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  for years, it was kind of like in my in the back of my head
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  like is there more going on like ADHD doesn't fit completely and
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  I brought that up a lot to doctors therapists over the
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  years and they were always like oh you probably just you know,
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  and xiety can be caused from ADHD and all that and it wasn't
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  until my son was diagnosed that any doctor took me seriously.
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  So it was kind of an important part of my journey that my son
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  was diagnosed. Yeah, definitely.
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  I do not hear that so much like some of my viewers say like hey,
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  I was watching your stuff to get information on my kids and then
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  I realized this makes sense to me and when they went to the
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  diagnosis our kids and that the doctors all the whoever was a
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  sudden were like, hey, you know, right and it goes to show
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  actually because I was one of the things I did a video on
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  like, you know, what causes autism and there's no like
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  direct cause but one of the things that like people say is
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  the main kind of factor in deciding if your neurons are
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  going to Fashion the way they do is genetics, you know, it's It's
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  nice if you carried the genome pool that may be carrying it a
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  newer diverse strengthened and that's how it became too.
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  So it isn't uncommon that your parent and your kid would be on
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  the spectrum because of course, you know, it's your Offspring at
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  the end of the day. Yeah, definitely that's just
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  super interesting. Now you said out ADHD is quite
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  interesting. Like I have ADHD as well and I
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  was diagnosed with ADHD and us which is at the same time and
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  it's fascinating that a lot of women who are on the Spectrum
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  will get diagnosed with ADD or ADHD when it actually is autism
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  and another one is bipolar. When it should be autism, so did
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  you find that kind of did they did they say to you?
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  Oh, it's not idiots. Actually autism others say no
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  you have but they just said that they would continue the
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  diagnosis of ADHD. And I agree.
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  I do definitely aligned with you know, specific executive
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  functioning issues of ADHD. The problem is that it overlaps
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  so much between Autism. Like I don't on it like
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  sometimes people ask me like video they ask me like we're
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  yeah totally like, where does that kind of where does ADHD and
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  and His own big and I'm like, I have no idea absolutely no idea.
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  But yeah, they definitely just continued my ADHD diagnosis and
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  then added the autism spectrum disorder diagnosis.
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  So here's a question of do you feel like do you feel like being
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  diagnosed as a novel is more beneficial and being diagnosed
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  as a kid, don't you think it's more beneficial to be diagnosed
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  as a kid. That's a loaded question for
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  different reasons. So as a kid, I needed a lot of
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  support that I didn't get and I think definitely early
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  intervention would have been good for me and with S4 school
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  is concerned but as an adult, I actually am really really Happy
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  that I found out later. Like after I had my three
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  children. I think I might have been more
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  hesitant to have children, which is crazy.
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  But I probably would have if I was diagnosed as a kid and kind
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  of grow up and now with my three kids who are also on the
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  Spectrum I all three of them. So my two of them are diagnosed
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  and then I have I have one that's getting an evaluation.
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  That's a little more gray area. I'm not totally sure.
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  Sure, but I think it's a definite possibility.
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  But yeah, so but as far as I'm concerned pretty much three on
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  the Spectrum at this point and so if I had an early childhood
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  diagnosis of that that might have not played out similar so
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  it's like pros and cons to both. I mean, yeah, and I yeah, and I
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  totally agree with you the whole kind of like the parenting thing
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  it does it kind of like so I was diagnosed before having
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  children. So like the whole conversation I
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  had that conversation, you know, is it is there a possible like
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  to me that's thinking like what if Kids on the Spectrum not like
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  it made any difference with those things do go through your
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  mind. And you think like well is that
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  are deciding factor? Maybe it is for some people, you
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  know, that is another thing that could come into a novel life and
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  also guys want to jump in and say that if anybody wants to
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  join in this conversation leave a comment down below.
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  I'm sure Laura will jump on as well when this video goes up and
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  and reply to the comment and if you're listening over on the
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  podcast you can send us some messages on Instagram or
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  Twitter. So it's at the aspie world and
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  also Laura's handle is just Laura zda N you can get her
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  Instagram and you can shoot us some questions over there to
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  care. On this conversation if you want
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  Okay. So moving forward ADHD was quite
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  an interesting one. I mean it is a fascinating one
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  and I think that more people are diagnosed younger with ADHD than
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  the autism and then they wait kind of like an end Awesomes
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  more popular to be diagnosed later on in.
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  Especially now with this millennial generation and a
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  friend of mine runs a channel called how to ADHD where she
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  talks about like, you know growing up with ADHD and stuff
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  like that. And when we were in them Lala
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  not this year the year before so we did a video two years ago at
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  VidCon the first video that we did together and we were talking
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  about the fact that you know, she she feels like she has, you
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  know comparable traits in autism but hasn't ADHD diagnosis and
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  she's like a words that line. You know, what is that line on
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  how how do you know and it's very it fascinates me because
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  like you said was one end and the other kind of like start and
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  it's kind of fluid but it's like this it's how I see it.
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  It's fluid when if you just have ADHD, you can see just ADHD, but
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  if you just have awesome you can just see that the autism but
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  when you have both their so fluidly, in fact, it's so
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  difficult to pick out which part is doing what and I try to
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  explain this in the video and it and it didn't work.
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  But what would you say that the main kind of differences that
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  you know between ADHD and autism or the main Here's how they
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  Clash right? I think that even though social
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  communication issues can kind of be a factor with ADHD.
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  I think with ADHD to me my interpretation is that it's just
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  a little more of like social awkwardness.
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  Sometimes like not necessarily in everyone with ADHD.
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  And with with autism spectrum disorder.
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  I think it goes a little further with, you know, not necessarily
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  processing situations as they are happening and and a little
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  more, you know, like one the biggest thing I learned through
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  my autism diagnosis is that communication goes both ways.
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  So I was always like I'm a great communicator and I was like, I
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  can definitely like express myself and I am expressive which
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  sometimes that's like a myth of autism that you're not
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  expressive or things like that and I am but what I realized is
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  that I you know communication is a two-way street, so I wasn't
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  always receiving the information Correctly and I think when that
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  goes a little further than just social awkwardness that's more
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  autism spectrum disorder than necessarily ADHD.
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  Like that's a major difference that I found and then everything
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  else to me is gray area with the to it's tough.
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  I do agree and I feel like there's so much gray area and I
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  tried I think I've done like for video attempts my channel trying
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  to explain this and then every time I record the video and I
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  put my own thinking then I just I just sound like I'm just
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  confusing the matter further because I'm I'm not making any
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  clearer definition. Okay.
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  So here's a question. And what would you see?
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  Cuz so one of the things I'm fascinated is that like there's
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  more I think it's like four times as many males are
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  diagnosed with autism and females which is obviously
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  bizarre. When we live in a predominantly
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  female Society where there are 50 like 1% of the population of
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  female or 50% of population female and the rest of mail.
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  So my question is this like what would you like to see more of
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  from female Advocates? So like yourself and other
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  people have what do you think was the striving goals?
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  So female Advocates of autism, well, I think that there are
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  this is totally anecdotal. I'm not sure about this but it
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  seems like there's more female Advocates that are totally fine
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  with just self-diagnosing and I I don't want to judge them and
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  say that they have a duty to get diagnosed but I really feel like
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  the more women who are diagnosed officially on the books is going
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  to help the next generation of girls coming up and help them
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  understand what it looks like more and women because it is
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  very it seems to present very different and like you said like
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  women are typically diagnosed a little later, you know, and
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  that's majorly because the the presentation is so different
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  even my four-year-old daughter is who I think very possibly on
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  the Spectrum. She I'm not sure even meets the
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  the qualifying criteria quite yet, but I think she will like
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  one she kind of goes to school and grows in that way.
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  Um, so it's like one of those things the more people on the
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  books, especially women the more they will know and be able to
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  diagnose earlier for young girls.
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  That's a great answer actually that kind of moves into the next
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  question. I had a question and I was going
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  to ask you what would you say to someone who's on diagnosing on
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  the fence or especially a female who's undiagnosed?
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  And again just kind of answered that just do it and I think I
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  think you're absolutely right when and then there's two things
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  here as well others a few things like if you are undiagnosed on
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  your self diagnosing one is that you could be self-diagnosing.
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  With something that isn't the condition so you could say that
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  I'm autistic, but you're not and it could be something else for
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  you need help in a specific area and you're actually looking in
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  the wrong areas for help, right? And there's nothing wrong with
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  that. It's just that you need to be
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  aligned with the right thing. That's why I think official
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  diagnosis is you know directly proportional to success and in
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  terms of that you said about like the Maria the want no more
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  official diagnosis you have for women that the the better the
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  fight goes to turn the the whole kind of idea that oh, it's just
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  males because a lot of people still think it's just males.
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  I don't even know how this comes about that females don't like I
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  know It's still a common misconception and like you said,
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  I think it still is four times more males than women diagnosed.
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  Yes. Oh, yeah, and it's so bizarre
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  and it's not but that's not it's weird because they say they say
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  it's because the statistics say this four times as many males
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  have autism and females which is wrong.
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  It's for my name four times as many males are diagnosed with
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  autism. We don't know the actual amount
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  of females who are sitting in diagnose and I'd say that is
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  probably higher because we'll just look at like I said a
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  percentage wise as more females and males.
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  In the world, so obviously there's going to be more females
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  with also. I mean, it doesn't make much
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  sense how I agree it just that I think that annoys me.
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  I know that there's bodies like the national autistic Society
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  right now are doing like training for you know education
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  for females on the Spectrum. So for professionals working in
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  the field to kind of spot it and I know that now the governor has
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  made it mandatory for all public institutions to take awesome
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  training starting in 2020. So I think we're slowly getting
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  there in the UK at least and so this is what my next question to
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  you would be like Who would you say that the big kind of like
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  charity organizations all the big organizations to that help
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  autism anything that people can take away so say someone's
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  watching most of my audience are in America.
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  Hey guys, how's it going? And most of them are in the USA
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  and guys listening on the podcast.
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  Where would they go to get information about Autumn?
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  What would you say the best place from your perspective?
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  And this is completely unbiased you can say anything you want
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  because look where non-judgmental.
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  Yeah. I really like a saint a essay
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  and there the altars of sorry there.
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  I forget the name of it, but it's A sa and they're a really
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  great organization and its really all about self-advocacy.
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  So there are kind of like giving you information.
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  They have a lot of like toolkits on their website for different
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  scenarios that you might be going through they give
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  information for a range of supports needed.
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  So there are options for people all over the Spectrum and they
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  are also very focused on adults. So so it's a great if you if you
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  think you might be late diagnosis.
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  Really great. I'm not sure the website
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  offhand. But if you don't know if you can
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  pull that out, I'm gonna get there.
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  They're really really great. And I believe that they're quite
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  a few different countries have you know, their Network in in
• 19:53
  their different countries specifically so sure it's a good
• 19:56
  so this one so the yeah the assignment is the the autistic
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  self. Advocacy Network.
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  Okay, so so basically so anyone who's done the podcast it's
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  autistic. Advocacy dot-org.
• 20:07
  I also leave this link down in the description.
• 20:09
  Ocean of the videos while I'm watching on the video because
• 20:12
  obviously large recommending this and I think it's a great
• 20:14
  site. I've come across these guys
• 20:15
  before I do follow them on Twitter.
• 20:17
  I think it is and they are great.
• 20:19
  But all the links for this is done in description below and
• 20:21
  also links to Laura's Instagram as well.
• 20:23
  You can check out our podcast and listen in there because it's
• 20:26
  super dope so that can I tie it up here right now and say is
• 20:29
  anything that you'd like to say to this audience before we kind
• 20:32
  of like, you know, yeah, I want to draft I wanted to go back to
• 20:35
  the, you know, women in kind of feeling like should I get
• 20:39
  diagnosed? One thing I really tell women is
• 20:43
  that if you are worried that doctors or therapists aren't
• 20:46
  going to believe you. That's totally okay to feel.
• 20:50
  I mean, I felt that to I was a wreck going into my evaluation
• 20:53
  on I pulled all that in my podcasts and and I get that like
• 20:56
  I was fully convinced I had it but I personally really needed
• 21:00
  that medical confirmation for one if my son was diagnosed.
• 21:03
  I really wanted to like know that I had it with him kind of
• 21:07
  thing. Like let's get diagnosed
• 21:08
  together kind of feeling but I tell women that it's okay to
• 21:13
  take your time and do a lot of research and kind of become your
• 21:16
  own Advocate and expert on you know, how this might be
• 21:19
  affecting you but the goal personally I feel should be
• 21:24
  definitely to get diagnosed and get that confirmation get on the
• 21:27
  books, but you don't have to do it right away.
• 21:29
  You can take your time and figure it out and kind of make
• 21:33
  sure that you are in agreeance with it and kind of go from
• 21:36
  there and then also you can kind of Have some time as they say to
• 21:41
  take the mask off. I know a lot of women mask and
• 21:45
  if they go into an evaluation masking, it's going to be very
• 21:47
  hard to get diagnosed. So I say take the time get to
• 21:51
  know your autistic traits that you have that you believe might
• 21:54
  be ultra autistic. So you can properly communicate
• 21:57
  that and I brought like 20 written pages of notes to my
• 22:00
  doctor. I do my evaluation and my the
• 22:04
  doctor actually loved it. He thanked me for it.
• 22:07
  He thought that was great. So it's okay to take your time
• 22:11
  and prepare and be ready for it. Don't just wing it because
• 22:14
  chances are you might not get a diagnosis and that's going to be
• 22:17
  so frustrating. So, of course, especially when
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  you're desperate like the help and the support and the
• 22:22
  excessive. Yeah, exactly.
• 22:23
  So that's kind of my my final Thoughts with late diagnosis.
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  Awesome. Okay.
• 22:29
  Well our looks thank you so much.
• 22:30
  I know it's super early for you. So I really appreciate you
• 22:32
  coming on the show because we're in different countries different
• 22:34
  time zones, and it's been amazing.
• 22:36
  So if you guys would like to check out Laura stuff, please.
• 22:39
  Check out her Instagram and the links are down below actually
• 22:41
  can check out all this stuff. And also guys if you like this
• 22:43
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• 22:46
  like this kind of video. We're going to do more of these.
• 22:47
  Hopefully if you like it and yeah, I'll see you next time
• 22:50
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• 22:51
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