Latest / Simply Bitcoin / Why Did Bitcoin DUMP And What Comes NEXT!! | EP 1302
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- 0:00Wait. Wait, hold on, hold on.
- 0:04We're live, are we? Totally live all right guys.
- 0:08Bitcoin dumped more than 9% over the weekend from its all time
- 0:11high. We went to this guy.
- 0:15All right, all right, all right here, we'll do it again.
- 0:17What? All right, we're nuke today.
- 0:19All right, Bitcoin dumped more than 9% over the weekend from
- 0:22its all time high and most of us, including us here, well
- 0:26maybe not all of us here thought it was ready to RIP to 150K.
- 0:30But the crazy thing is at the same time, MicroStrategy and
- 0:33it's copycats just bought $2.5 billion of Bitcoin last week,
- 0:39which is leading everyone to wonder why is the price not
- 0:42mooning? Is the bull run over or this is
- 0:46going to be the bullish take of this guys?
- 0:48Or is Bitcoin gearing up for the most bullish quarters in its
- 0:51history? When we dive into the history of
- 0:54Bitcoin, you might just be surprised.
- 0:57Again, I've been saying it for a couple of months here on the
- 1:00show. Did they say we crash?
- 1:03Are we still alive? Yeah, it looks like we're still
- 1:06here. It looks like we're still here.
- 1:09Guys, let me let us know in the chat.
- 1:11Are we still? Yeah, OK.
- 1:13They're laughing at us. We're totally alive.
- 1:14Nico. Nico freaking got me all all off
- 1:17cater today. It was Restream.
- 1:19That's right. All right.
- 1:20Anyways, anyways, let's get into it, guys.
- 1:21I've been saying for a minute, I think the end of this year is
- 1:25going to set up super bullish. But before I get into that, of
- 1:29course I'm sure you guys saw over the weekend Friday, Bitcoin
- 1:33dumped, we got to a low of about 111 K.
- 1:38It really kind of rebounded around 1:12 and then today we
- 1:41kick back up to around 115 K roughly.
- 1:44Right now. I think I'd last, last I saw
- 1:46before I went live was like 114.7.
- 1:50So it seems to be rebounding strong.
- 1:52But of course, as as is always, as is usual here, when Bitcoin
- 1:57dumps, you start to get, you know, the sky is falling, it's
- 2:00over. I think we still all have PTSD
- 2:02considering the 2021 bull market got cut short.
- 2:06The double top meme is still alive and here's some headlines
- 2:09from over the weekend. Bitcoin holders bleed as Binance
- 2:12daily inflows near 7000 Bitcoin Just going to read the kind of
- 2:16key points Bitcoin speculators. I guess that's us joins Wales in
- 2:20sending Bitcoin to exchanges and the price then dipped below 112
- 2:24again. I think I saw 111.4 as the
- 2:28lowest it got. An analyst wants warns that
- 2:32continued whale selling could spark a deeper, longer Bitcoin
- 2:35price correction. Exchange order book activity
- 2:38shows large scale market exiting, but Bitcoin is
- 2:40attempting to reclaim 114. This was a couple days ago.
- 2:43It did reclaim it. And of course, as we had
- 2:46probably one of the most bearish weeks in terms of Bitcoin being
- 2:50sold on the exchanges again, hundreds of thousands of coins
- 2:53were hitting the exchanges last week.
- 2:55The Bitcoin price coming back to around 115K, I think it's
- 2:59really, really strong signal that this, this run isn't over.
- 3:02I, I would argue that this run hasn't even started and I'll
- 3:05make my case for that in a minute.
- 3:07But before we go on to that, we even got Arthur Hayes, who has
- 3:10been historically bullish the last couple of months, starting
- 3:14to get bearish. So I, I think him and Nico have
- 3:16been communicating lately because, you know, Nico is the
- 3:18perma bear here, but bearish. Arthur Hayes says Bitcoin could
- 3:22retrace to 100K on macro headwinds.
- 3:26Let's kind of just read over what these macro headwinds are.
- 3:29Hayes linked the recent crypto pull back to renewed tariff
- 3:32fears sparked by the disappointing non farm payrolls
- 3:35report, which showed just 73,000 new jobs added in the US in
- 3:39July, a sign of economic fragility.
- 3:42And then of course, Hayes also pointed to sluggish credit
- 3:45growth in major economy, stunting nominal gross domestic
- 3:48product growth in warning that Bitcoin could fall towards 100K
- 3:54again. It kind of held up pretty good
- 3:56and and you know, the consideration of everything it
- 4:00it kind of held up good considering there was hundreds
- 4:02of thousands of coins hitting the exchange last week.
- 4:04We saw a lot of old dormant wallet start to open up and
- 4:08move, which really kind of got the rumor mills going of the
- 4:12consideration of how many quote bit loss Bitcoin are there
- 4:15really? I know the old debates of, hey,
- 4:18we should we should, you know, change the code so that we can
- 4:21scoop up all this old bitcoins because, you know, no one's
- 4:25using all that lost Bitcoin needs to get recirculated.
- 4:28I think now that meme has kind of full thoroughly been
- 4:31destroyed and and we can just say there's some there's some OG
- 4:34holders out there that been holding this stuff for a long
- 4:36time. Those coins are probably not
- 4:38lost, which is going to be very interesting moving forward
- 4:42considering whether there's actually, you know, the, the
- 4:44common kind of ideas, there's like 4 or 5 million Bitcoin that
- 4:47are lost now. I, I don't think we can even say
- 4:50that anymore. It's, it's starting to look like
- 4:52people have just been holding it for that long.
- 4:54There's obviously a lot of lost coin, but maybe all of our
- 4:57estimates of how much coin is lost is really overshooting it
- 5:01anyways. At the same time, this is where
- 5:04it starts to get really crazy. I know everyone was watching
- 5:07over the weekend. We got a bullish report coming
- 5:09out of the White House. We're we're getting all kinds of
- 5:12turnarounds coming out of the SEC and we are start, we're
- 5:15seeing literally unprecedented buys coming from these corporate
- 5:19treasury companies, not just MicroStrategy or Metaplanet.
- 5:23There's actually been a huge. So Metaplanet buys $54 million
- 5:27worth of Bitcoin, maintaining their 7th place globally with
- 5:2917,595 Bitcoin. And then of course, Sailor just
- 5:34bought up more Bitcoin. He announced a $2.4 billion buy,
- 5:37I believe it was like Tuesday or Wednesday.
- 5:40And then by Thursday, Thursday night, he announced another 4
- 5:43point something billion dollar buy.
- 5:45So he is scooping up coins. Of course, all that capital
- 5:49hasn't really fully hit the market.
- 5:51But looking over at Bitcoin treasuries, of course strategy
- 5:53now holds 628,791 coins. And there was actually a good
- 5:58clip. I don't know if we want to play
- 5:59it or have enough time to play it, but he was asked on, I
- 6:03believe his squawk box, but are you trying to own all of the
- 6:07Bitcoin? And he finally came around to
- 6:09saying like, no, there's no value in one entity owning all
- 6:12the Bitcoin, which is something all of us, excuse me, Bitcoiners
- 6:15have been saying for a long time.
- 6:17As you can see, Metaplanet still buying.
- 6:19They're currently in 7th place. And you know, Coinbase is
- 6:22finally, finally coming to the game and starting their own or
- 6:26continuing their Bitcoin treasury strategy.
- 6:29They they bought a couple, I think it was a couple thousand
- 6:31over the weekend. So you can see, you know, the
- 6:33games, the game's getting crazy and Jack Mall is 21 capital.
- 6:36They're coming in strong jump to the third place with 43,000.
- 6:40ANYWAYS, that's that's you know, we we've been watching the
- 6:42Bitcoin treasury strategies play out.
- 6:45They're seemingly supposedly scooping up a lot of Bitcoin.
- 6:48But this news right here shouts out the Bitcoin archive.
- 6:52Public companies bought over $2.5 billion a Bitcoin last
- 6:56week. Of course everyone wants to
- 6:58catch Sailor. You can see here the weekly net
- 7:01inflow was $2.56 billion. The weekly Bitcoin net inflow
- 7:05was 21,895.98 Bitcoin. But of course, that really is
- 7:11only a dent when you consider that there was literally, you
- 7:15know, one $80,000 sale of Bitcoin last week and then there
- 7:19was multiple old wallet opening up.
- 7:22And I think the math that we had, it was like 107,000 Bitcoin
- 7:26that hit the exchanges last week.
- 7:29So I, I think it's very simple. I know there's still the
- 7:32conversation of paper Bitcoin is the price being suppressed.
- 7:36I always, you know, Occam's razor, this, they're just,
- 7:39there's a lot of Bitcoin being sold right now.
- 7:41But in the face of everything going on, Bitcoin holding on at
- 7:44around 1:15, I think it's super, super bullish.
- 7:48And before I get into my bullish takes on why I think this is
- 7:51going to end up and be an incredibly bullish end of the
- 7:55year, Nico, let's pass it to you.
- 7:58What what's your initial thoughts when you saw the price
- 8:01dumb. You know, what's what's your
- 8:02ideas is Arthur Wright And then take into account all of the
- 8:06Bitcoin that is supposedly again, I'm I'm doing air quotes
- 8:09here, supposedly being bought by these Bitcoin treasury
- 8:11companies. What's your vibe here as the
- 8:13reigning perma bear on the show? What, what is your, your gut
- 8:17telling you right now before, before I make my my bullish
- 8:20case? Yeah, I mean, my gut is telling
- 8:23me that dude, like, you know, we're supposedly in a quote UN
- 8:28quote bull market, but I haven't seen it yet.
- 8:32I haven't seen this bull market. Like we've we've been
- 8:34essentially going sideways for the past year or so.
- 8:39And you know, we started the year at 109,000 with on Trump's
- 8:43inauguration day, we're at 115,000.
- 8:47We dipped to 75,000 in the middle of the year.
- 8:50Now we're back up, but this isn't a bull market.
- 8:54I think I saw British Huddle say it initially where he was like,
- 8:57look, guys, like we're not in a bull market right now.
- 9:00And I would agree with him. We're not in a bull market.
- 9:04This doesn't feel like a bull market.
- 9:05I think we're gonna have a great end of the year.
- 9:09That's what my, my Spidey senses are telling me just based on
- 9:13Bitcoin's historical patterns. But I, I would say that this,
- 9:17this year has, has been underwhelming so far.
- 9:20Bitcoin is still up. I think it's up like 1020% on
- 9:24the year, which is fantastic just in general terms, but in
- 9:28Bitcoin terms, it's been a little bit lackluster.
- 9:31But I, but I, here's the silver lining that I will say though,
- 9:35too is, and I think the more we consolidate at these prices, the
- 9:39bigger, the bigger the base when we inevitably start to go up.
- 9:45So I think it is a good thing, but I just think that it's just
- 9:50going to take a while. And I also think that the
- 9:52institutions coming in change the dynamic of how these bull
- 9:56market bull markets operate. They're, they're, they're acting
- 10:01very, very differently than to what they normally do.
- 10:05And I think that's all that's something to keep in mind as we
- 10:08go forward. Anyways, Opti, what's your take
- 10:10on? All this, Yeah, yeah, No, I, I
- 10:12think you're right though. Look at our our boy Utx over
- 10:15here on Rumble. He says.
- 10:17We've been essentially going sideways for the last two years.
- 10:20Up 400% is basically the same as 0 it.
- 10:24Looks like we're. All on the same page here and
- 10:27also Nico I I, we didn't cover it as news, but there was a
- 10:31rumor of China banning Bitcoin again and I think that's what
- 10:35everyone was saying that dropped the Bitcoin price, though it
- 10:38does look like it's losing its flavor.
- 10:39It's losing it's losing its effect now, if it's true,
- 10:42though, from what I saw guys, they they didn't actually usher
- 10:47in a new ban. I think it was the same 1 from
- 10:492021. So I, I don't think that we can
- 10:52kind of connect that to why the price dumped, but we we did see
- 10:56a dump over the weekend. You know so either way, buying
- 10:59opportunity for everyone here. If you like Bitcoin at 123 K you
- 11:02love it at 113 K and 111 K. It seems like the dip got bought
- 11:06up anyways, I did say I was going to make a bullish case
- 11:10here first one is kind of me trolling.
- 11:12I'm not going to lie. This first one is kind of a, but
- 11:15this is my first point here and we've been saying this on the
- 11:17show for a minute, but we got Jim Cramer.
- 11:20He literally actually maybe he's the one to blame because he did
- 11:24endorse Bitcoin last week and then the price dump.
- 11:26So inverse Kramer, just completely undefeated.
- 11:30Anytime he says anything favorable about anything, it's
- 11:34going to dump. But we got we got a we got a
- 11:37little a little saving grace here.
- 11:38He tweeted over this was what Friday afternoon, Friday night,
- 11:43Jim Cramer, which is what we tell you guys, remember the meme
- 11:45of selling May and go away. I was joking that the summer
- 11:49months are bad because all of the investment hedge fund guys,
- 11:53the bankers are over in Saint Barts on their yachts chilling.
- 11:56They're hanging out with their family.
- 11:57Well, Jim Cramer is doubling down.
- 11:59So you know what this is telling me it's going to rebound
- 12:02bitcoins going to rebound strong.
- 12:03And anyways, he tweets, I always despise both August and
- 12:05September. Just tough months to make money.
- 12:08You know what I'm hearing? I'm hearing Bitcoin is going to
- 12:10RIP. So inverse Kramer in effect on
- 12:13the opposite way. It's going to be a bullish
- 12:15August just cause Kramer said it was going to be a bad August.
- 12:19Though I am kind of trolling that.
- 12:20That is kind of a troll. Anyways, what I really want to
- 12:23show you guys here today is the monthly returns on Bitcoin,
- 12:27historical monthly returns. Here you guys can see Bitcoin
- 12:30monthly returns and there is kind of a pattern here.
- 12:34Of course we've been talking about this for a few for you I
- 12:37guess years now shouts out to American Hotto.
- 12:39You know 3 red, 1 green Well, we are in the supposed green year
- 12:43and so if you kind of look at this here we do you can kind of
- 12:47see a very similar dynamic play out.
- 12:50You know, we have the first green here and then three red 1
- 12:54green and then we got 2 Reds with one green, 1 green, three
- 12:58Reds. And of course, we're starting
- 12:59off August not so well, but just imagine that this August month
- 13:03is going going to end up green and we have a super bullish set
- 13:07up for the end of the year. So historically, when we have a
- 13:10good July, then August also pumps.
- 13:14We've seen this play out multiple times.
- 13:16Actually almost every time except for last year that we saw
- 13:20every time we have a green July, a bullish July, we have a
- 13:24bullish August and there's only one break in that pattern, which
- 13:27was in 2024. This this update here.
- 13:30This is on coin glass is obviously the first 3-4 days of
- 13:33the month. So we don't have that to really
- 13:36hang our hat on. But looking further out, if you
- 13:39guys check this out, historically October, November
- 13:43is the most bullish time in Bitcoin.
- 13:46So it looks like we're going to be set up for a great Q4.
- 13:50Maybe that's not what you want to hear here today.
- 13:53You're just like I, I want this to RIP to 150.
- 13:55I was promised 150K. Are we going to 200 K plus?
- 13:59It looks like we might. This is this is my optimistic
- 14:03take on where we are right now. It looks like we are going to be
- 14:06set up for an incredible Q3 and Q4.
- 14:10We'll see. We'll see if this plays out.
- 14:11Maybe September will be a little correction month, but October,
- 14:15November is going to be a great, great time.
- 14:18So maybe we'll have one more dip in US.
- 14:20Who knows how low the dip will go.
- 14:22But I'm starting to look at, hey, if we get a green October,
- 14:26a bullish or sorry, a bullish August, then we're going to be
- 14:29set up really good for Q4 of this year.
- 14:33And then really kind of going further into some of these
- 14:35charts. Again, shouts out to archive
- 14:37Bitcoin. Demand remains strong,
- 14:39accumulation is rising. Long term holders still buying.
- 14:42Here you can see the demand for accumulator addresses.
- 14:45It's going parabolic right now. You have sell side liquidity
- 14:49going down all exchanges, including the, you know,
- 14:52grayscale Bitcoin holdings, they are being diminished right now
- 14:56and then the apparent demand is on the rise right now.
- 14:59So even though the price is probably you're you're probably
- 15:02getting bored to death right now because of the sideways action.
- 15:06As we kind of mentioned earlier, we've been going sideways for a
- 15:09long time, which in our view it basically means it's zero.
- 15:13It's over here, we're getting bored to death, but I think it's
- 15:16going to be set up for a solid August and then a solid Q4.
- 15:21So I wouldn't be selling your Bitcoin right now.
- 15:23Don't sell the top right now. You're probably going to regret
- 15:27that anyways, that's my kind of analysis here.
- 15:30This is my chart. Boeing, join my free paid group
- 15:32later. No, I don't actually have one
- 15:35this. I do this free on the show for
- 15:37you guys. This is my free paid group.
- 15:39It's on simply Bitcoin. So this is what I'm seeing right
- 15:41now, guys. I don't, I don't think it's
- 15:44anything to worry about. But again, what do I know?
- 15:46I don't have a crystal ball. You know, I get trolled in the
- 15:48chat that if we don't get to 500 KA million this year, then we're
- 15:51liars, etcetera. Look, I'm updating my models
- 15:54with the information as it comes as well, man.
- 15:56So this is what I'm seeing. I don't think it's time to panic
- 16:00anyways, Nico, from there, take it away.
- 16:04Do you think we are going to see, based on my case here, are
- 16:09we going to see a bullish August and a bullish Q4?
- 16:12Yeah. I mean, you know, I think this
- 16:14is what everyone is kind of, you know, this is what I was
- 16:19predicting, which actually worries me a little bit, but.
- 16:25Dude I get bullish and he's still bearish.
- 16:27This is crazy. Yeah.
- 16:28So I mean, look, if the it's a big if, if Bitcoin follows
- 16:33historical patterns. That's the big if.
- 16:36If Bitcoin follows historical patterns, then we are very well
- 16:41set up for an explosive end of Q3 and Q4, right?
- 16:48And then a lot of people are also talking about an extended
- 16:52bull market. A lot of people are saying that.
- 16:53Someone just said that in here. Bitcoin bull market is going to
- 16:57be extended. Due to 2026.
- 16:59Into the, the like the the second-half of, of of 2026,
- 17:05Michael Saylor is going on and basically saying, could you pull
- 17:08up that meme that he posted on his account where he's like,
- 17:12it's the end of winters. There is yeah, he is.
- 17:15No, there is no Bitcoin Winters anymore.
- 17:18I've heard that, I've heard that.
- 17:20I've heard that before, right? But he is buying all the Bitcoin
- 17:24so yo he's got a godfather meme too.
- 17:28Legend. Yeah.
- 17:29So could you share that? So I mean like my take on all
- 17:34this is like look like I that dumb that happened last week was
- 17:39not cool. Like I mean it, it followed
- 17:43strategies essentially like they they did over they did their
- 17:47their earnings call, right. They had like Lynn Alden on the
- 17:50call. They had like press and pish on
- 17:52the call. They absolutely crushed it in
- 17:54terms of performance and then the price dumped regardless.
- 17:59Historically, bitcoins price doesn't do so well during the
- 18:02summer. People kind of just unplug, but
- 18:06it does do a little bit better towards the end of the year.
- 18:09But the reality is, is that we've been essentially
- 18:11consolidating for seven months, seven months of consolidation
- 18:17with volatility to the downside, not even the upside.
- 18:22But again, the more we kind of chop solidate, the the better
- 18:27the platform is of when we eventually go up.
- 18:31So when we event, when bitcoins number eventually goes up to the
- 18:34moon, there's a very strong platform of which Bitcoin could
- 18:39jump off of right. And I think this is where we're
- 18:42at right now. We're like in this like really
- 18:45kind of unique situation where, you know, Bitcoin, it has been
- 18:50going sideways essentially for, you know, what was seven months
- 18:54and eventually that kind of leads up to an explosive move
- 18:58upwards. And what Arthur Hayes is
- 19:01basically making the case for and Larry Leopard and Lynn Alden
- 19:06is that they're going to eventually start printing a
- 19:10whole lot of money. And when they do that, that
- 19:13tends to make the price go up, number go up, right up into the
- 19:19right. So I mean, I think that's my
- 19:20base case, man, but I don't know, you know, I feel a little
- 19:23bit chewed up here, Opti, like we've been this is 7 months of
- 19:28kind of boringness. This is paper Bitcoin summer,
- 19:30right? And you know, I don't know, man.
- 19:33I remember the the, the good old days, right, where like we'd
- 19:37used to like 2-3 X in like a matter of two or three months.
- 19:41Now it's taking a little bit longer now, to be fair, since
- 19:45the bottom of Bitcoin, like the bottom of the 22, was it 22?
- 19:49Yeah, it was a 22 bear market. It was at $16,000, we're up at
- 19:56115,000. So I mean, from a percentage
- 20:00return, that's a fantastic return, right?
- 20:04And what is that like 567X? It's pretty good.
- 20:08It's not bad. I don't know.
- 20:10I let me, let me charge. It's not bad at all, right?
- 20:14If you take a, yeah, just go from the bottom of the of the
- 20:17bear. Which which bear?
- 20:19Though the bear, bro, the bottom of the bear, Yeah, Yeah.
- 20:21So you just take the take the rule.
- 20:23Yeah, exactly. Take this off all right, guys.
- 20:27I'm doing it live behind the scenes.
- 20:29I I I don't need you guys trolling me about my my chart
- 20:31bowling over here to today's price.
- 20:34Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. But that that's 25.
- 20:38That's this year I'm talking about.
- 20:40Yeah, Sorry, sorry. Zoom out, press the five year
- 20:42thing. So I mean like look like from
- 20:46the bottom of the 2022 bull mark, bear mark, you're right
- 20:50there. Look.
- 20:51Oh, from the 2022, Yeah. That's, that's the cycle bear.
- 20:54That's the cycle bottom to the cycle top.
- 20:58We're up 641% in what, 2 years? That's an incredible, that's an
- 21:06incredible return. So, but again, from a
- 21:10Bitcoiner's perspective, you're like, dude, that's super boring.
- 21:13Like you know what's going on here?
- 21:16I think again, we're chop solidating.
- 21:19The last time we did that was in March of 24 and we did that all
- 21:25until October of 24. Bullish October.
- 21:30And then October, we kind of pulled up again.
- 21:32It definitely looks like it's on an upward trend.
- 21:34We kind of had our correction into the 76 K region.
- 21:40So yeah, I mean, I am bullish for the end of the year, but you
- 21:43know, I kind of want to see it go up because we haven't made
- 21:46all time highs in in Bitcoin terms and in Bitcoin to gold
- 21:52terms, we have not made an all time high.
- 21:54I don't know if anyone knows that.
- 21:55Yeah, yeah. Someone in the chat saying 600%
- 21:59yeah, so freaking boring hard huddle at the Bitcoin
- 22:02conference, someone pointed out that Nico looks like I can't say
- 22:06that. That's so funny the the chat's
- 22:11popping off. Anyways, if you guys are
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- 22:22guys are enjoying the content. Kind of breaking the 2021 high
- 22:25right now. We are, yeah.
- 22:26I think we just broke it. Let me see.
- 22:30No right under it. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to
- 22:34tell you. We haven't made all time highs
- 22:37in gold since 2021, right? So I mean, like, we're going
- 22:43higher, it's just taking longer, which kind of goes into the
- 22:46whole power law narrative, right?
- 22:50Where they're like, look, we're gonna go up in percentage terms
- 22:52the same, It's just gonna take a lot longer.
- 22:55I think that's where we're at right now.
- 22:57But yeah, I mean, I'm telling you, like this institutional
- 23:01money, once it's gotten in, it's kind of weird, man.
- 23:04It's gotten weird. Like it's gotten super, super
- 23:07weird. Like Bitcoin has been acting
- 23:09strange since the approval of the ETF in January of 2024.
- 23:14Like the price action isn't the same.
- 23:18I can't pronounce that name. It says we go to a million in
- 23:20boredom. Someone said this is boring for
- 23:23people who got in after 60 Ki. Think that's a good point.
- 23:27Someone else says the price is kicking total ass.
- 23:30What's not to like? We're just bored, I think.
- 23:32Yeah, maybe we're just bored. Getting bored today but what
- 23:35What should be a boomer section? What's your take on what's your
- 23:41take on the price action going downwards?
- 23:44I think it's honestly very strong considering like what
- 23:48Arthur Hayes is saying, you know, the macro tailwinds right
- 23:50now or headwinds, sorry, there is a lot of economic
- 23:54uncertainty. There's a lot of things going on
- 23:57right now that are that are kind of shaking up the system and the
- 24:01fact that we saw literally like 100 + 1000 coins hit the
- 24:04exchange and we're still at 1:15.
- 24:07Like the biggest signal that I saw someone tweet out reminded
- 24:11me of this was right before my time.
- 24:14But the bear whale that Nico was around for, you know the the
- 24:17infamous bear whale story, the guy sold 30,000 Bitcoin and it
- 24:20took forever to get out of the bear market.
- 24:23This time we had literally 180 thousand Bitcoin transaction.
- 24:28It's still above 100K, it's still around 115 K and that
- 24:32wasn't even accounting for the other 20,000 plus coins right
- 24:36now. So I think the market is very
- 24:38strong. And again, I got to give a shout
- 24:40out to Mitchell Hartle. He's been, I think he might be
- 24:42right here. And Eric Balkunis kind of said
- 24:44it as well, the Bloomberg ETF analyst.
- 24:47It's like ever since the Bitcoin ETF, the market structure has
- 24:50fundamentally changed. And I think I honestly, you
- 24:54know, I don't want to say this time is different because you
- 24:56guys are going to troll me, but it does feel like things have
- 24:59fundamentally changed and we won't be able to really
- 25:01recognize it until after the fact, you know, 2020 hindsight
- 25:05and all that. So I think, I think things are
- 25:07changing for better or for worst.
- 25:09And I'm, I'm starting to lean into we're just going to get
- 25:13bored to death to 1,000,000. So, you know, just keep
- 25:15stacking. We're probably going to have to
- 25:18find new topics. What's a board to death to a
- 25:20million? What is that?
- 25:21Literally what we're doing right now, just a little bit of pump
- 25:26sideways action, slight correction, a little bit of pump
- 25:29you. Think the arrows of the
- 25:30parabolic move movements. Upwards are over I think.
- 25:34Like on a yearly chart, it'll still look parabolic, but I
- 25:39just, I don't, I'm not sure if it's still going to be, you
- 25:41know, you need to be in the market for 12 days.
- 25:43You know how it used to be that Bitcoin would pump after 12 days
- 25:46and we do all these crazy price movements.
- 25:49It might just be you pump, you know, one month you pump, then
- 25:52it goes sideways and it does this stair stepping ladder and
- 25:55then you go sideways for a couple of months and then it
- 25:58just pumps again for another 20, thirty, 50%.
- 26:02And it just kind of does this very boring.
- 26:05Like, wait, I don't know, man, we're trading the S&P 500.
- 26:09Mel, who is bored? Seriously, I'm, I'm totally
- 26:12bored right now. Dark, dark gets it.
- 26:17We're going to be bored when the price hits $1,000,000 because we
- 26:19knew it was going to get there for so long.
- 26:21So you know, slow climb is good though a slow climb is is
- 26:26obviously healthy and I'm all for it.
- 26:29But can we get 2017 vibes back? I mean, I think, I think
- 26:33eventually I mean, but that's that's $1,000,000 question,
- 26:37right? And I'm going to put that in the
- 26:39chat. I want to I want to get your
- 26:40guys's thoughts is the era of is the era of Bitcoin?
- 26:50Parabolas. Yeah.
- 26:51See. Everyone's bored in the chat.
- 26:53Mel, what are you talking about? All right, I just wait.
- 26:56Now this is a better question. I.
- 26:57Just asked everyone in the chat. This is a better question.
- 27:00Era of Bitcoin parabola is over. Though to add to this, would you
- 27:04rather a parabolic blow off top or up slowly for the next 10
- 27:08years? Blow off top dude.
- 27:10I don't know. Give me that dopamine dude.
- 27:12Dude, this last bear market was kind of rough being all in on
- 27:14Bitcoin, I'm not going to lie. So give me that dopamine.
- 27:17Bro, I want slow and up and to the right forever.
- 27:20Yeah, yeah. No more bear markets, dude.
- 27:22No more winters. Dude we haven't even gone up and
- 27:24to the right for like like 7 months.
- 27:26Bro it's literally only been up and.
- 27:28To the right? No it hasn't.
- 27:31Yes, it has. I don't know.
- 27:34It's literally up and to the right like you're tripping.
- 27:37Look at this. It's literally up into here.
- 27:38Let me, let me, let me show it. Dude, we're chart boing.
- 27:42We're chart boing, we're char boing.
- 27:43We're we're talking about where? Where?
- 27:46Look at this dude. Literally just up and to the
- 27:49right dude. Like it pumps, goes sideways, it
- 27:53pumps, it goes sideways, it pumps, it goes sideways.
- 27:56So it pumps, it's going to go sideways.
- 27:58But look compare it to. The I agree like this is this is
- 28:01what I want. I want this.
- 28:03I'm being selfish. I want this, you know, look,
- 28:08I'll even take 2021. So the consensus, I want to take
- 28:12a look at how the the chart is doing.
- 28:14I mean, how? Not the chart, but I want to
- 28:15take a look at how the poll is doing and seeing what everyone
- 28:18thinks I said is the era of Bitcoin.
- 28:22Parabola is over 60% of you guys, 60% said no.
- 28:27All right, let's go. 60% said there is going to be some type
- 28:31of action. I'm thinking there is going to
- 28:33be some type of action. All right, you know we got to
- 28:35change this segment can somehow I am the bearish 1 here and I
- 28:38don't like this. My ego can't handle me being
- 28:41more bearish than Nico here so. Anyways, guys, we have a loaded
- 28:45show for you guys. So much to talk about.
- 28:47We have Senators Cynthia Lummis going hard in the paint, you
- 28:52know, really putting pressure on the Federal Reserve.
- 28:55Also more action coming out of the Federal Reserve.
- 28:57Fed Governor Kugler resigns, giving Trump vacancy, which is
- 29:02really, really interesting. I believe at the current moment,
- 29:07with this current resignation, I think it's going to be three to
- 29:12three Republican Democrats. So it's gonna be like across the
- 29:16board, kind of even. And then we played an ad on
- 29:21Friday that you guys didn't like.
- 29:24Totally naked our numbers. He was right.
- 29:27Vindicated again you. Guys didn't like but essentially
- 29:29it was like a musical of Coinbase like dancing and
- 29:36celebrating and like in the UK and a pretty that ad got banned
- 29:41in the UK. Yeah, it didn't get banned
- 29:43because it was saying too much signal.
- 29:46It was banned 'cause it was. Horrible.
- 29:48And then we got some. We got some thoughts from Josh
- 29:52Mandel and we got some. We got some interesting data
- 29:55coming out of Fred Krueger, which I think is really
- 29:58interesting. And then we have a thread by
- 30:01Arthur Hayes. So guys, this is going to be an
- 30:03incredible show. You guys are going to want to
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- 33:27today. Alright everybody, At the time
- 33:33of recording, the Bitcoin price is $115,720 Block height 908,592
- 33:43sats per dollar 864 sats per dollar Market cap 2.34 trillion
- 33:49Bitcoin versus gold market cap 9.67% Decline from all time high
- 33:55-6%. Realize monetary inflation .84%.
- 34:00In the grand scheme of things, we're just getting started.
- 34:02Anyways, here is the Bitcoin senator, Senator Cynthia Lummis
- 34:07on the floor of the Senate, and she's been going super hard on
- 34:13the Federal Reserve for acting politically.
- 34:17They and I'll, I'll just, I'll just play the clip and then opt
- 34:20in and out. We'll talk about it.
- 34:23I won't have any confidence in the Fed's IG and its findings
- 34:30until that person has statutory independence from the Fed chair.
- 34:37The Federal Reserve has grown too powerful, too insulated, too
- 34:43comfortable, and they are operating in the shadows, and
- 34:48this is the minimum we can do to start getting this independent
- 34:53agency some scrutiny. They don't even respond to FOIA
- 34:59requests. You can't get an answer.
- 35:03That place is whack A mole. If you try to talk to the Fed
- 35:06chair about something, they'll put it on the vice chair for
- 35:11banking supervision. Who will put it on the
- 35:15presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks.
- 35:17Who put it back on the White House, Who put it back on bank
- 35:22supervision? Who put it on the lawyer of for
- 35:24bank supervision? This place is a ping pong ball
- 35:28when it comes to trying to get an answer to a question.
- 35:34It's become a giant black hole of, I mean, that's pretty crazy,
- 35:41bro. And again, when they always talk
- 35:45about Bitcoin being obscure and you don't know what's going on
- 35:52with Bitcoin and it's this private money.
- 35:55Like there you have Senator Lummus basically saying, hey,
- 36:00this is a black hole. Like we, we don't we can't even
- 36:02get answers out of them when we want answers out of them.
- 36:04Like we a FOIA request, by the way, is a Freedom for
- 36:07Information Act like they should be responding to that.
- 36:11And they feel like they don't, they don't need to, right?
- 36:16So that's pretty crazy. And you kind of just see like
- 36:19the political dynamic between the Trump administration and the
- 36:25Federal Reserve where Trump is basically saying, OK, you need
- 36:28to lower rates. You know what's going on here
- 36:32and then the Fed doesn't. And then we know that during
- 36:35Operation choke .2 point O, they got their hands dirty and taking
- 36:40down some of these pro Bitcoin banks and passing some of this
- 36:45anti Bitcoin legislation or, or, or some of the regulatory
- 36:49actions that were done by the previous administration.
- 36:52This is also an institution that wants to roll out a central bank
- 36:56digital currency. So someone in the chat saying
- 36:59they're a private company, I mean, they sure are acting like
- 37:03it. And this institution has so much
- 37:06power. It has so much power, and it's
- 37:10unaccountable. It's inaudible.
- 37:13You don't know what's going on there.
- 37:14It's a trust me, bro type of situation.
- 37:18And this institution basically controls the country's money.
- 37:23Like what are we doing here? What what the F is going on,
- 37:27right? As bitcoiners, you can you
- 37:31could, you know, buy a node and you could download a node.
- 37:34You can audit the chain. You know what everyone is doing.
- 37:38It's public. It's you know, it's an open
- 37:41Ledger. You don't have to trust me, bro.
- 37:45And this is a system that's a trust me bro system.
- 37:48It's like trust me, bro. And it's not even.
- 37:50And then when you ask, it's like, OK, man, but like, I'm
- 37:53having a hard time trusting you. Like, could you do me a solid
- 37:58and like, you know, send me some something like good.
- 38:03And it just ignores you. That doesn't give a lot of
- 38:06confidence in the trust me, bro, right model.
- 38:09So, you know, I, I applaud Senator Lummus for highlighting
- 38:14basically the hypocrisies, the inefficiencies, the obscurity
- 38:22that this institution is acting with.
- 38:26This again, is supposed to be an institution that is supposed to
- 38:29represent the interests of the American people.
- 38:33Who's it accountable to is my question.
- 38:37If it's not accountable to us, who's it accountable to, right?
- 38:42Who is the Federal Reserve accountable to?
- 38:46Because it's not acting like it's accountable to the people,
- 38:49it's acting like it's accountable to itself.
- 38:52And I don't know if you guys saw that video of Trump basically
- 38:56going back and forth with Powell and, and like Trump is basically
- 39:01saying like you guys are spending $3.1 billion
- 39:06essentially updating the building, bro.
- 39:09What type of building is that? What type of building is that?
- 39:133.1 billion? What are they building in there,
- 39:16dude? Like what type of renovation
- 39:20cost $3.1 billion? That's that's insane.
- 39:25And then people in the chatter saying it's acting like a
- 39:28cartel. I mean, it sure does look like
- 39:31it. It's like we don't answer to
- 39:33you. We don't even respond to Freedom
- 39:36of Information Act. We were hostile towards Bitcoin
- 39:39with the previous administration.
- 39:41We kind of want to roll out a central bank digital currency
- 39:45like, so if it's not democratically accountable, if
- 39:49it's acting in a in obscurity like I, I, at this point, I
- 39:55don't care what they have to say about Bitcoin.
- 39:58It seems like the things that they have to say that about
- 40:00Bitcoin, they're guilty of themselves.
- 40:03They're projecting onto US what it is they are guilty
- 40:07themselves. That's my stance on the Fed bro,
- 40:10because this is some crazy stuff.
- 40:13Anyway, every people in the chat are all agreeing it is actually
- 40:17a cartel by definition. Like, you know, like this is
- 40:20this is crazy, man. This is some crazy stuff.
- 40:23And I applaud the Bitcoin senator for going up there
- 40:26bravely and just telling the Senate, you know, we're
- 40:29basically playing a game of whack A mole, right?
- 40:32And we can't find out what the F is going on.
- 40:35We can't get the truth out of this institution.
- 40:38So I'm really glad we have, you know, a senator that's actually
- 40:42highlighting what's going on and, and she's sitting on the
- 40:45and on the Banking Committee too.
- 40:47So it's, it's perfect, right? So anyways, guys, I think the,
- 40:51the veil is being uncovered. I think the very legitimacy of
- 40:56this institution is being questioned.
- 40:59The Overton window is shifting. It needs to continue to shift
- 41:03and people need to wake the F up and realize that this
- 41:07institution is not accountable to anyone.
- 41:12And we need to wake the F up and realize that now we have a
- 41:16better system, an open protocol of which we don't have to play
- 41:22the trust me bro model. We can play the don't trust me
- 41:26Bro verify model, which I think is a much superior model.
- 41:32And someone in the chat said they already basically, I can't,
- 41:37I don't know if I could say that, but they basically said
- 41:40that like, look like they took over the United States in 1913.
- 41:45What more do we need to build an alternative?
- 41:47Like I, I completely agree. I mean, the whole history of
- 41:51that institution is obscure. It's cloak and dagger.
- 41:55It's not open, it's not transparent.
- 41:58It's not public, right? They say, they keep saying how
- 42:02Bitcoin is private money. That's a projection.
- 42:05That's a projection. Our money is more public than
- 42:10their money. If you try to make more dollars,
- 42:14that's counterfeiting. Anyone can make more Bitcoin as
- 42:18long as you pay for the electricity, right?
- 42:21So, yeah, I mean, this is, you know, this is, this is I'm, I'm
- 42:27very glad Senator Lummus is on our team.
- 42:29Opti, what's your take on all this?
- 42:31Bro Yeah, Well, I mean, first of all, of course I'm, I'm glad
- 42:36Senator Lummus is a bitcoiner. I think she's, she's doing her
- 42:40best. And I think it's, it's doing a
- 42:42good job to kind of, as Nika like to say, move the Overton
- 42:45window. Though I think I'm a little more
- 42:47cynical in regards to the what we're seeing from the
- 42:51politicians and the Fed. I, I just keep getting reminded
- 42:54of Scott Besson and Jerome Powell literally have lunch
- 42:57every Monday. So like they're literally in
- 42:59lunch like right now. So there is no there this, you
- 43:05know, independence and we need to kind of put them in check.
- 43:09Like by default, it's not federal.
- 43:11It has no reserves. I, I don't think it really is
- 43:14independent. The, I think we did that article
- 43:17the other day of like the independence is a myth.
- 43:20I, I don't think they are actually acting nefarious per
- 43:26SE. Like I don't, I don't think
- 43:27they're doing anything that the Trump administration doesn't
- 43:29want them to do. I think Scott Besson and Jerome
- 43:32Powell are kind of doing a really good coordination right
- 43:35now. And hey, Jerome Powell is being
- 43:38the scapegoat. Like he's the bad guy right now.
- 43:40Now, do I necessarily believe in the Fed?
- 43:42No, you know me, I'm a bitcoiner.
- 43:44I think there needs to be the separation of money and state.
- 43:46I don't believe in central banks at all.
- 43:48But I don't, I think this is more coordinated than then we're
- 43:52led to believe. Now, does Senator Lummis, is she
- 43:55in on that? It's I don't think so.
- 43:58So like what she's doing, I think is really good to kind of
- 44:01wake up the masses out there and kind of show everyone out there
- 44:04if they're following politics that, hey, there is something
- 44:07wrong with the Fed. There is, you know, as Thomas
- 44:09Sowell used to say, you know, there is a cancer there, which
- 44:12is the Fed. And when you remove it, you
- 44:14don't put a, you know, you don't put a new tumor in.
- 44:16So maybe I'm a little more cynical here.
- 44:19Again, I, I do take a lot of this from what Tom Luongo has
- 44:22been saying for a long time is I think there's more of a
- 44:26coordinated dance being played right now by Scott Besson and
- 44:29Jerome Powell together to essentially drive a lot of pain
- 44:33to European markets. And I think they're doing a
- 44:35great job doing that. Now.
- 44:36I know Trump and Jerome Powell have been kind of publicly
- 44:39beefing, but I think that this is it's reminds me of the, you
- 44:43know, world, the wrestling term. It reminds me of keyfab.
- 44:46Like they they are it's, it's all it's all a show right now.
- 44:50That's kind of my take on all of this.
- 44:52But that whole speech that Senator Lemons did was, was
- 44:56great. I think she did a great job.
- 44:58She thoroughly destroyed the Fed, which is what we always
- 45:00talk about here. But it's very interesting that
- 45:03Main Street or, you know, retail or just the average person just
- 45:07really tunes it out. Like if you talk to an average
- 45:10person about ending the Fed, they probably don't care at all.
- 45:12They they're probably more focused on what they would say
- 45:16are bigger problems right now. But from our perspective, they
- 45:19are the biggest problem. They're destroying our
- 45:21purchasing power and they do ACT quote UN quote independently and
- 45:26they can do whatever they want and then we just have to kind of
- 45:28deal with it. But I am kind of on the side
- 45:31that I think Scott Besson and Jerome Jerome Power kind of
- 45:35they're doing a a coordinated dance right now and I think it's
- 45:38working very well. Yeah, one 100% man.
- 45:42I mean, I, I, I, I don't know I I don't know Opti.
- 45:44You think you think this is on purpose?
- 45:45You think it's all like a you're really on the Tom Luongo Cam I.
- 45:49Really am like again. Look, I'm not I I'm becoming a
- 45:53more macro guy now and. Opti is the in house macro.
- 45:58Dude, well, we got problems here, you know, But I'm not the
- 46:04only one that's saying it. Like Tom Luongo has been saying
- 46:06it for a long time. Mark Moss just recently came out
- 46:09and said the same thing. He's calling it the Mar a Lago
- 46:12Accords. Like, what he's seeing Scott
- 46:13Besson do and Jerome Powell do currently is essentially to
- 46:19bankrupt the European Union. And it's working marvelously
- 46:23right now. Like a lot of this pressure,
- 46:26like, I know Trump wants to lower interest rates, but the
- 46:29fact that Jerome Powell has been able to maintain the interest
- 46:32rates that we have right now is really, really becoming a
- 46:35headache for European markets. And you can see that the EU
- 46:39leaders are scrambling right now.
- 46:40This is why you're seeing Christine Lagarde scramble from
- 46:43our control. This is why they're going for
- 46:44more CBD CS. The EU is getting cooked right
- 46:48now. And like, I don't like the Fed.
- 46:50I'm, I've never really been a Jerome Powell fan, but I think
- 46:54he's doing a great job right now.
- 46:55If if this is really about American sovereignty and Trump
- 46:59is kind of maybe he's doing kind of some theatrics here.
- 47:03And it's like, I don't want this to happen.
- 47:05But again, we know what they want.
- 47:07They want to continue to drive independence in the US dollar.
- 47:13What how they can do that is they got to kill the the euro
- 47:16dollar markets, which they're doing.
- 47:18That's what Tom Malonga has been covering for a long time.
- 47:21And they Trump really does want lowered interest rates because
- 47:25he wants that money to slosh around.
- 47:27And so they need the Dixie to go down.
- 47:31They got to make sure that interest rates on bonds don't
- 47:33spike and they got to make sure that, you know, he wants those
- 47:38those rates lower. And This is why they're pushing
- 47:41for stable coins. And This is why they want
- 47:43Bitcoin to RIP as high as they want it to RIP.
- 47:46Like it when you think of it in this context, it all just kind
- 47:49of plays out like theater. And I, and I think this is kind
- 47:52of the public theatrics is like make Jerome Powell the bad guy.
- 47:56We all know he has publicly stated or rather been publicly
- 47:59quoted as saying that he wants to stop Trump.
- 48:01So I don't, I think, you know, I hate to say it, but I do think
- 48:05Jerome Powell is trying to look out for the US best interest.
- 48:10And I think he is kind of being made a scapegoat though in
- 48:13general, by default, I'm not a fan of the Fed at all.
- 48:16So, you know, I, I'm of two minds here.
- 48:19And like, again, if you guys want to read more or hear more
- 48:22of this, like listen to the interview that Nico did with
- 48:25Mark Moss. He laid it out perfectly.
- 48:27And then you can go down whatever rabbit hole you want.
- 48:29But it's becoming very clear what's going on here.
- 48:32And I don't think Jerome Powell was necessarily the bad guy.
- 48:36He's a bad guy by default because he's a central banker,
- 48:38but I don't think he's the bad guy that Trump makes him out to
- 48:40be anyways. Anyways, we did get a super chat
- 48:43shout out to Stussy because we are seven months into the year.
- 48:47Let's get serious about year end price targets. 250K is mine all.
- 48:50Right. Boom, we should do some.
- 48:52Air horns for that. Bro and some stussy 50K.
- 48:59Oh someone's someone's being bearish bro.
- 49:01What do you mean 50K? Get out of the chat 50.
- 49:05K And I'm going to end this poll.
- 49:08Is the era of Bitcoin parabolas. Over 69% of you guys said no.
- 49:15And I I agree. I'm part of that.
- 49:17I'm part of that group of people that agree, that agrees with you
- 49:21guys. I don't think the era of Bitcoin
- 49:23parabolas is over. Anyways, guys, we have an
- 49:26incredible show lined up for you.
- 49:28We still have a ton to talk about.
- 49:30We're going to hit the news segment.
- 49:31We're going to be right back in just one second.
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- 51:25Wait, Nico, Nico, before you go. Oh, what happened?
- 51:28Did our camera die? No.
- 51:30Did it? Yeah, I think it's.
- 51:31I think it's. Oh, it's not plugged in.
- 51:34OK, all right, well, while while we're doing that, we're fixing
- 51:37the camera. Shout out to Ron P $10.00 for
- 51:41the Opti Mayo and Coffee fund. Yes, Chipotle Mayo from Porsche
- 51:46is delicious and coffee is the GOAT.
- 51:50Sorry guys, we're fixing the camera right now.
- 51:52It wait a second. Maybe it's not plugged in.
- 51:56It's not plugged in. All right, guys, rookie move.
- 52:00Rookie move. We're coming back.
- 52:02We're coming back, dude, it's a Monday.
- 52:05It's feeling like a Monday. All right, you're gonna have to
- 52:08give it a minute. Let's we could just switch to
- 52:11our computer for a second. I mean, it's just gonna take a
- 52:15minute before it charges or just pull something up.
- 52:19Pull this up all right, just full screen it.
- 52:24Just full screen it and then I'll get the camera going.
- 52:29Full screen your source full screen your source.
- 52:32This guy what a rookie. There he is.
- 52:40All right here I'll deal with the camera all.
- 52:42Right, we are back. What happened?
- 52:46That's so weird. It's a Monday, bro.
- 52:48It's it's a Monday. Anyways, guys, let's jump
- 52:52straight into the news while Opti tries to figure this out
- 52:56and we roll with the punches. We're good.
- 53:02All right, we're going to switch back to the original camera
- 53:06anyways, we had this tweet or this post by Josh Mandel.
- 53:12Oh, man, is it plugged in? It plugged in.
- 53:24Here, hold on, it's not working well, it's not working on our
- 53:34side. All right, let's jump into the
- 53:36news all right, so this is kind of covering the recent price
- 53:41action. The markets heat and then they
- 53:44cool of this, you know for sure and when the temp drops too too
- 53:48damn much the printer it goes Burr.
- 53:51As for the coin, do not fear. I know how this will end. the
- 53:55Fed shall seek they shall find the data on which they depend
- 53:59and worse to realize they're now behind.
- 54:02Here's a little hint. We'll find a way out of this
- 54:05bind. Just wait for the big print.
- 54:09Very very nice. Also, I thought this data point
- 54:15was quite interesting. We're back to OG status.
- 54:19I like this next to each other. So Fred Krueger says who owns
- 54:25Bitcoin? Bitcoin is mainly AUS thing,
- 54:29which I find really, really interesting, right?
- 54:32Europe is really not involved. So if you take a look at the
- 54:36total supply, most of Bitcoin is held by the United States.
- 54:43I mean, for better or for worse. I mean, I I don't know how you
- 54:48feel about that Opti, because I think it's definitely really bad
- 54:51from a decentralization standpoint.
- 54:54Yeah, yeah. Let me let me look at this real
- 54:57quick. That does.
- 55:24The biggest kind of participants in this market, whether that's
- 55:27by company ETFs, the US is holding self custody by
- 55:33individuals and you could say that that's probably because we
- 55:37are the richest nation and we have the money printed to back
- 55:40us. You know I'm I'm I'm not going
- 55:41to not say that but let me let's see the global.
- 55:46I think this is right. I think this is totally right.
- 55:49Most of the Bitcoin is being held in custody by.
- 55:54Individuals, yeah, but I mean dude like percentage of total
- 56:00Bitcoin, 7.8 million retail ETFs, institutions, custody
- 56:07India holds 1% or 5% what, 1,000,000?
- 56:11What do you want the opposite to do?
- 56:13I mean, I would rather it be a little bit decentralized.
- 56:16Dude, everyone's just being late.
- 56:18They're just late adopters. I would rather it be
- 56:20decentralized. I I don't it's totally
- 56:22decentralized. I don't want it to just be in
- 56:24one like 1 country. Dude, we're just the Bitcoin
- 56:27superpower of the world. And you call me the maggotard
- 56:32bro? Hey dude, I'll steal his memes
- 56:34any day. So anyhow, OK, so I thought you
- 56:38guys would find that interesting.
- 56:40Now let's jump into the big news for today.
- 56:43Fed Governor Krugler resigns, giving Trump vacancy Federal
- 56:49Reserve Governor Adriana Kugler will resign her job next week,
- 56:52the Fed said in an announcement, giving President Trump an early
- 56:56opportunity to appoint a favored candidate for potential
- 57:00leadership of the central bank. Here's Caitlin Long responding
- 57:05to it, says the question is again whether Trump will
- 57:07actually fire Powell. The Board of Governors is 4 to 3
- 57:12Dems, Repubs. So firing Powell wouldn't have
- 57:16given Trump a GOP majority. But now that Coogler is
- 57:20voluntarily stepping down the calculus, that calculus just
- 57:25changed. So it's quite interesting.
- 57:28And then OPDI, I want to get your thoughts on that before I
- 57:31move on to the next. Bit yeah, well, I think the big
- 57:34take away from this is, well, really the most interesting part
- 57:38about this is kind of speculating on why she resigned
- 57:43when she did, especially when there's been a lot of
- 57:45conversations about Jerome Powell resigning.
- 57:48That's been like the rumor for the last couple of weeks, and
- 57:51she kind of stepped down now. I think the implications of this
- 57:55playing out now are very interesting.
- 57:58So so, you know, Trump's going to obviously put someone in
- 58:00there that they have to vote on, but he's that's going to be
- 58:04favorable to Trump. And if this is the case, you
- 58:07know what it's going to be 3 three for three, right?
- 58:10It's going to be completely tied now with the new person coming
- 58:13in. And from my perspective, what
- 58:16that means is lowered interest rates and money printed is going
- 58:19to go Burr. So like I, you know, whether
- 58:22this is a good thing for everyone is up for debate.
- 58:26It's really probably not going to be a good thing for everyone.
- 58:29Of course, the more money they print, the, the more your
- 58:32purchasing power gets destroyed. But on the flip side, if you are
- 58:36holding assets, if you're holding Bitcoin, the more money
- 58:38they print, the more Bitcoin number go up.
- 58:41So I think now it's going to be very interesting considering
- 58:45it's going to be tied. And then what is going to happen
- 58:48with Jerome Powell? Is he going to step down?
- 58:50Is he going to resign? Are the Trump administration
- 58:53going to be able to basically fire him?
- 58:55Now? It starts to get really
- 58:56interesting because if Jerome Powell leaves as well, then I'm
- 59:00guessing it's going to be heavily favored in Trump's
- 59:04direction. And we'll see if there really is
- 59:07some independence there. I know Besson's been talking
- 59:09about basically corralling the Fed for a while now.
- 59:13And if they are more, you know, symbiotic here, then they're
- 59:17going to do whatever Trump wants.
- 59:18Lowered interest rates turn on the money printer, inflate their
- 59:21way out of the out of this debt problem.
- 59:24If you're not holding Bitcoin right now, you probably should
- 59:27be. It seems like everything is
- 59:28going in their direction and they're about to do the hugest,
- 59:32most massive big print possible. So, you know, on the one hand, I
- 59:37don't want to see everyone get destitute and poor out there
- 59:40because they're going to get their purchasing power
- 59:42destroyed. On the other hand, it's going to
- 59:45pump assets up, bro. And we got the fastest race in
- 59:47the horse. So, you know, it's not
- 59:51necessarily a good thing, but it's going to pump.
- 59:55It's going to pump Bitcoin. So on that front, hey, I don't
- 1:00:00know, man. Hands up, wash my hands like you
- 1:00:02know, upon his pilot here. Whoa whoa, biblical references
- 1:00:07here we're going biblical. All right, guys, if you guys are
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- 1:00:32Moving on to the next piece of news.
- 1:00:34So Opti and I actually played this video for you guys on
- 1:00:39Friday and. They naked our show, just naked.
- 1:00:42The show completely It was 100 what?
- 1:00:47Go, go, go and. Then it was 100 I.
- 1:00:49Got some? Speculation 100 Live viewers
- 1:00:52just dropped off the face of the radar.
- 1:00:57And that usually never happens to us, so we were kind of making
- 1:01:00jokes about it. Listen, you guys don't like
- 1:01:03musicals. I appreciate the amount of
- 1:01:06coordination and art that goes into musicals and I and I could
- 1:01:11appreciate the art form. It's just not something that I
- 1:01:15would I I personally resonate with.
- 1:01:17I've been to musicals. I like them.
- 1:01:19I like, again, it takes a lot of art, man.
- 1:01:23It takes a lot of talent to practice to get really good at
- 1:01:25them. So I understand that right.
- 1:01:30But at the same time, you know, I just I, I, I just I me and
- 1:01:34Opti were just it wasn't our cup of tea.
- 1:01:36In turn, I didn't mean to make that joke, but it wasn't our
- 1:01:39cup. It wasn't our cup of tea in
- 1:01:41terms of the types of ads that we like to that we like to
- 1:01:45consume Like we, we like, we, I loved the Federal Reserve ads.
- 1:01:50Like this is how much dollars they've printed in a year.
- 1:01:52And it's like, you can't, you can't afford a house.
- 1:01:55Like, you know, like it was all these things and I was selling
- 1:01:58off the like, I really like those ads.
- 1:02:00Those ads punched really hard. Like they were really good.
- 1:02:03But for some reason this Coinbase one didn't really
- 1:02:06resonate with me. Now here's Brian Armstrong, the
- 1:02:08CEO of Coinbase, and he says our ad, which got banned in the UK
- 1:02:11by the TV networks has sparked a quite a reaction.
- 1:02:15If you can't say it, then there must be a kernel of truth in it.
- 1:02:19Needing to update the system and improve society is not a
- 1:02:22political statement on either party in the UK.
- 1:02:25Some have tried to turn it, turn it into this, and it's not
- 1:02:29specific to the UK. We ran ads with similar themes
- 1:02:33in the US. It's a statement about how the
- 1:02:35traditional financial system is not working for many people and
- 1:02:39how crypto represents a way to improve that.
- 1:02:42There are people in the UK who still think of crypto as some
- 1:02:45kind of gambling product, a very outdated view, and have
- 1:02:49completely missed the potential of crypto, which is to update
- 1:02:52and improve the financial system for the benefit of everyone.
- 1:02:55We will welcome the attacks and any other attempts to censor
- 1:02:58this message as it just helps it spread now.
- 1:03:01OK, two things can be true at the same time.
- 1:03:07As Bitcoiners, we do believe that crypto is very speculative.
- 1:03:15We do believe that everything loses value as it compares to
- 1:03:20Bitcoin. I think cryptos are oscillators
- 1:03:23at best, right? But they all tend to lose value
- 1:03:25as it compares to Bitcoin. So does that mean that you can't
- 1:03:30gamble on one and win some money?
- 1:03:34Of course you can. Many people have, we don't
- 1:03:37recommend it. We take, we take the low time
- 1:03:39preference type of approach. But again, it's your money.
- 1:03:43You could do whatever you want with it.
- 1:03:46So I think Brian Armstrong's framing of like crypto is going
- 1:03:50to fix the financial system. I think that's wrong.
- 1:03:53I think Bitcoin is going to fix the financial system.
- 1:03:56I think Bitcoin is already an alternative financial system
- 1:04:00that doesn't even need to be fixing.
- 1:04:02You could just opt out into Bitcoin and you could start
- 1:04:05living your life and all of a sudden you're going to be start
- 1:04:08living on a deflationary currency and savings and all of
- 1:04:12a sudden everything around you is going to get cheaper to the
- 1:04:15end of time. You could start doing that now.
- 1:04:18So I do admire and I do appreciate the Coinbase ads
- 1:04:22because they're extremely effective in terms of production
- 1:04:25value and in terms of pointing out that the fact that the
- 1:04:29system is broken, right? Because I think everyone agrees
- 1:04:32on that. I think like the, the general
- 1:04:35consensus is everyone feels like something is wrong.
- 1:04:38Like that's a general consensus. And I agree.
- 1:04:41And I think the Coinbase ads are fantastic because they highlight
- 1:04:45that everyone believes something is wrong.
- 1:04:47Where I think Brian gets it wrong is that he's like, crypto
- 1:04:51is going to fix this. It's like dude, buying Pepe coin
- 1:04:55that's down 80% isn't going to fix anything.
- 1:04:59It's if anything, it is going to wreck you 100 times more.
- 1:05:02And what is that? But not gambling, right?
- 1:05:05Like Bitcoin is going to fix this.
- 1:05:07So in a way, in a way he's true like crypto.
- 1:05:12But if you put Bitcoin into the crypto category, but I wouldn't
- 1:05:17say I would say Bitcoin is a crypto.
- 1:05:20But Bitcoin and crypto are not the same.
- 1:05:23Bitcoin and all coins are not the same.
- 1:05:25I think Bitcoin can solve the issues, but only Bitcoin.
- 1:05:30And that's because it's absolute scarcity, that's because it's
- 1:05:32not controlled by anyone. That's because of its
- 1:05:35immutability, that's because of its censorship resistance,
- 1:05:38that's because of its decentralization.
- 1:05:42So I mean, like simultaneously, I think the ad was over the
- 1:05:47target. I think that if you can't talk
- 1:05:49about something, you know, there's a problem.
- 1:05:53I think how governments are acting are it, it's been quite
- 1:05:59interesting, man. Like, you know, I think it's,
- 1:06:02it's, it's really taken off the veil.
- 1:06:05I think that's what Bitcoin has done.
- 1:06:06It's really taken off the veil to what is happening in society.
- 1:06:12And that to me is, you know, is, is interesting because the whole
- 1:06:23point of a government is for it to represent the needs of the
- 1:06:28people, for it to protect private property and for it to
- 1:06:32act in your best interests. Like we don't live in a
- 1:06:35dictatorship. We live in a government of which
- 1:06:39we are supposed to elect and empower in order to represent
- 1:06:44our needs. It's been Frankensteined 100%
- 1:06:50into something that it's that governments don't act like that
- 1:06:54anymore. The way that I see government
- 1:06:57acting now specifically sort of here in the US, but not so much,
- 1:07:03but specifically in Europe, is that they're just kind of like
- 1:07:07go along with it. If you post something on social
- 1:07:10media, you're going to jail. If you do something like, you
- 1:07:15know, again, let's implement these, you know, these, these
- 1:07:20specific cities that you, that you want to live in, you know,
- 1:07:25you can't drive certain cars. Like, look, I think the question
- 1:07:30that Bitcoin is going to reveal is not what is money?
- 1:07:33I think that question, it's getting answered at the moment.
- 1:07:37But I think the real, the really big question is what is
- 1:07:41government and why am I saying this?
- 1:07:45Because we didn't have a better alternative for money before
- 1:07:57Bitcoin. Like you couldn't have a private
- 1:08:02money or you could have, but let's say that it didn't really
- 1:08:06solve things. So people gave that
- 1:08:10responsibility to the state, right?
- 1:08:13The so the state is the one who's responsible for the money
- 1:08:16because the state is supposed to represent the general
- 1:08:21population. So you're like, OK, the the
- 1:08:25government controls the money. The last 100 years has shown how
- 1:08:32many times they've abused that privilege, that power.
- 1:08:38Right now we have a money that is stateless and it doesn't
- 1:08:46require the government in order to function.
- 1:08:56And because of that, it's essentially improved money.
- 1:09:02Now where the clash is going to happen, a prediction.
- 1:09:09And again, it it, it, it reveals, it takes away the veil,
- 1:09:13right? It takes away the veil of
- 1:09:15legitimacy because the whole point of which the government
- 1:09:20has this power of having money and controlling money, it's
- 1:09:24supposed to be for our best interest.
- 1:09:27It's supposed to be for the best interest of the people.
- 1:09:30But you have Senator Lum is basically saying, listen, I
- 1:09:33can't even audit you guys. You guys aren't telling me the
- 1:09:35truth. I it's a black hole.
- 1:09:38I can't get the truth out of you guys.
- 1:09:39What the F is going on the whole legitimacy behind the the
- 1:09:47government or the state or the central bank controlling money
- 1:09:51is for you guys. It's it's for the betterment of
- 1:09:54society, it's for the betterment of the greater good, so to
- 1:09:57speak. But if the money comes in, which
- 1:10:01is Bitcoin, that is better money for everyone and it's
- 1:10:08inconvenient for the state that has been benefiting from abusing
- 1:10:15the trust and the power we bestowed to them by being the
- 1:10:19caretakers of money. It kind of reveal it.
- 1:10:24It moves away the veil because it exposes that they weren't
- 1:10:29really interesting and doing a good job.
- 1:10:31They weren't really interesting that they weren't really
- 1:10:34interested in, you know, being the caretakers of this enormous
- 1:10:39responsibility. What they were really interested
- 1:10:42in is power and control. And that's the veil that's being
- 1:10:48exposed. Like that's, you know, that's
- 1:10:50the, the curtain that is being moved.
- 1:10:53And I always say this, Bitcoin exposes incentives.
- 1:10:56It exposes incentives really, really hard.
- 1:10:59So if again, once you're using a Bitcoin standard, everything
- 1:11:05around you, how people react to you, how the state reacts to
- 1:11:08you, what, what they're really doing is they're, they're,
- 1:11:11they're, they're exposing what they really want themselves.
- 1:11:15So when you see the European Central Bank saying, hey, it, we
- 1:11:19won't be able to continue unless we have a central bank digital
- 1:11:23currency, they're telling you the truth.
- 1:11:25The part that they leave out conveniently is the fact that
- 1:11:32Bitcoin is an improvement to the current system, and it's an
- 1:11:38improvement for everybody. So everybody's lives get better
- 1:11:43on a Bitcoin standard, not just a bureaucratic and political
- 1:11:48elite. Now, what they're trying to do
- 1:11:51with their messaging is, is if we lose control of the money,
- 1:11:55the world is going to spontaneously combust and the
- 1:11:59society's going to fail and you know, it's going to be terrible.
- 1:12:04But we've seen that propaganda against El Salvador.
- 1:12:08We've seen it before. They said if El Salvador made
- 1:12:11Bitcoin legal tender, the economy was going to be
- 1:12:15unstable. It was going to be a disaster.
- 1:12:17And then again, coincidentally, El Salvador has the most popular
- 1:12:21president in the Americas and their economy is booming.
- 1:12:27And they basically made Bitcoin legal tender.
- 1:12:29They had to walk it back a little bit because of the IMF,
- 1:12:31but they had Bitcoin as legal tender.
- 1:12:33So none of their predictions came true.
- 1:12:38So again, this isn't about, this isn't about and, and please,
- 1:12:43like, remember this guys, embrace this, internalize this
- 1:12:47because when they start attacking this, just remember
- 1:12:52they're going to come at it from this is for your own good.
- 1:12:58But what you have to understand is it's it's not for my own
- 1:13:02good. It is for your good.
- 1:13:06Because if you are a Gen. ZR, if you are a millennial, you
- 1:13:10are poorer than your parents, full stop.
- 1:13:15People my age cannot afford to buy a home and start a family,
- 1:13:22full stop. And the only thing that is 100%
- 1:13:27responsible for that, it's not capitalism.
- 1:13:32It's not because you didn't vote in the red party or the blue
- 1:13:36party. It is literally caused by the
- 1:13:39wealth inequality that happens when the central bank prints
- 1:13:45money and debases the currency. If you are in the lower middle
- 1:13:50classes, you are saving and earning in Fiat.
- 1:13:54When they debase the currency, your earnings and your savings
- 1:13:58lose purchasing power. If you are very wealthy and you
- 1:14:03have the privilege and you have the means to save in assets,
- 1:14:07when they print money, the asset values go up.
- 1:14:11That's where the wealth inequality is coming from.
- 1:14:15So their system, the Fiat system, is the cause of a lot of
- 1:14:21the suffering that people are going through these days.
- 1:14:25And what they're arguing for is basically, let's keep it going.
- 1:14:29Let's keep that system going because it's for your own good.
- 1:14:34Don't worry, you're going to own nothing and be happy.
- 1:14:37Everything is going to be fantastic and fabulous and
- 1:14:41incredible. I'm sorry, I don't believe you
- 1:14:44anymore. I've been living on a Bitcoin
- 1:14:47standard. It's been fantastic.
- 1:14:50Opti could say the same thing. If you switch over to a Bitcoin
- 1:14:54standard, you'll be like, wow, things don't need to get more
- 1:14:58expensive. Things actually get cheaper.
- 1:15:01As Jeff Booth says, the natural state of the free market is
- 1:15:05deflationary. Things should get cheaper as
- 1:15:09time progresses, but things have been getting more expensive.
- 1:15:13Why is that? Because the government's
- 1:15:16manipulation and control over the money.
- 1:15:19That is the single 'cause it isn't politics, it isn't the
- 1:15:23person in power, it isn't anything else.
- 1:15:25It isn't the economic model, is it?
- 1:15:28It isn't any of that. It is literally because we are
- 1:15:32live in a society with broken money.
- 1:15:34And Bitcoin fixes this. I'm done, I'm done.
- 1:15:40It's over. I'm done.
- 1:15:41Opti, what's your take? You know I was just letting you
- 1:15:45cook bro. The chat's loving it.
- 1:15:47This is why they come to the show is when Nico goes bug eyed
- 1:15:50and goes full of Nico Jones on it.
- 1:15:53Great ran. Great ran.
- 1:15:54Love it. I do want to kind of bring up my
- 1:15:57conspiracy theory here on what happened on Friday, bro.
- 1:16:02So look, we're going to take Brian Armstrong's word as true
- 1:16:05that he got banned in the UK. And why?
- 1:16:10Would Why would he lie about that?
- 1:16:11I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying I'm, I'm taking
- 1:16:13that as the given here. OK, this is this is the given
- 1:16:15here. And so on Friday when we played
- 1:16:19the ad, I saw it live while we were doing the show and we just
- 1:16:24had like a huge drop off on viewers.
- 1:16:26And usually that never happened. Like we've never, I don't think
- 1:16:29we've ever lost 100 plus viewers in well, actually only during
- 1:16:32the meme review for everyone on Rumble, only during.
- 1:16:36The Meme Review. Do we lose 100 plus viewers at a
- 1:16:39time but mid show? I don't think we've ever really
- 1:16:42had 100 people drop off during the show and over the weekend,
- 1:16:47you know, we were watching the numbers on, on all of our stuff
- 1:16:50and we, we had a great run. We had like a month of just
- 1:16:54killing it on a show. And this is the worst performing
- 1:16:57show we've had in a long time. And I was just kind of talking
- 1:17:01to Nico and we were just chatting about what actually
- 1:17:04happened. I'm like, I think, I think it
- 1:17:05was just like, people don't like musicals, dude.
- 1:17:08Like, I, I just don't think people really connected with
- 1:17:10that ad because we had such a hard time kind of getting people
- 1:17:14back into the show and maintaining our our kind of
- 1:17:16usual viewership on the show. And I was like, OK, like that,
- 1:17:21that ad just kind of naked us. Now with this updated
- 1:17:24information, I am going to kind of speculate and go, you know,
- 1:17:27put my 10 foil hat on here. But maybe just maybe the algos
- 1:17:33picked up that ad. And considering that the UK is
- 1:17:35kind of stopping a lot of free speech and if they did ban that
- 1:17:39ad, of course, you know, over the target, maybe that's one of
- 1:17:43the reasons why the show didn't do as well as we thought it was
- 1:17:46going to do. Like it was it's a solid show.
- 1:17:48But that ad just for various reasons now apparently just
- 1:17:52killed on Friday's show. And so one again, just kind of
- 1:17:56the Occam's razor here was just people didn't like the ad and
- 1:17:59our numbers didn't do that good by the end of the show.
- 1:18:02But a secondary reason could be just, you know, maybe they maybe
- 1:18:06that ad kind of got flagged here and This is why the show didn't
- 1:18:10get pushed as hard as it should have on Friday.
- 1:18:13So just some interesting speculations here on the show in
- 1:18:17high insight of what actually happened.
- 1:18:19And if again, you know, Brian Armstrong, I don't think has a
- 1:18:22reason to lie that it was banned in the UK, which is absolutely
- 1:18:27insane. Also like that it was very very
- 1:18:31vanilla AD like there wasn't even a call of action at the end
- 1:18:36of. It it was literally a musical.
- 1:18:37It was a musical, but of course we we all know.
- 1:18:41Again, I've been saying it for a minute, The E is cooked.
- 1:18:47Yeah, like, what more evidence do you need?
- 1:18:50But yeah, no, that's crazy. I think that.
- 1:18:53I think that explains. Can't even release a musical,
- 1:18:55bro. Dude, you can't even talk.
- 1:18:56Can't you can't even release. Well, to be fair, they shouldn't
- 1:18:59be releasing musicals at all anyways, but you know.
- 1:19:03Hey bro. I'm trolling.
- 1:19:04I'm trolling. Some people totally like them.
- 1:19:07I'm totally trolling, guys. I'm trolling.
- 1:19:10I'm but anyways, guys, it's going to be a great show we.
- 1:19:14Tommy. We have tons.
- 1:19:16The wall we have, we have tons to talk about.
- 1:19:19We're going to be right back in just a second.
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- 1:21:29OK, guys, we're here for the culture and this is totally
- 1:21:35about the culture. So here's the headline and I'm
- 1:21:39just going to start here because you guys can kind of see the
- 1:21:43statue. So if you guys didn't hear over
- 1:21:45the weekend, if you weren't online over the weekend, the
- 1:21:48Satoshi statue in Lugano was vandalized and it, you know, it,
- 1:21:55it literally disappeared for a while.
- 1:21:58Here's Yahoo Finance, they're kind of covering it.
- 1:21:59And I, I really brought this up so you guys can kind of get a
- 1:22:02refresher of what it looked like.
- 1:22:04And then here's what happened. So someone was over there and
- 1:22:08this was Saturday, I believe. And it goes, hey, Plan B network
- 1:22:12where the F has a Satoshi Nakamoto statue gone And it just
- 1:22:18completely disappeared. It just was gone for a while.
- 1:22:21No one knows what happened to it later.
- 1:22:24They did find it. It was missing.
- 1:22:26It was recovered from I believe, the lake here.
- 1:22:29And you can see here the video of them kind of pulling it back
- 1:22:33together, getting it back on, you know, getting out of the
- 1:22:37lake here. Actually, let me zoom in a
- 1:22:38little bit and you can see they did recover the statue and I'm
- 1:22:44not sure if they're going to put it back up yet, but we did.
- 1:22:47They got to fix it. Yeah, they got to fix it.
- 1:22:49But, you know, again, the statue disappeared.
- 1:22:52They did a you know, million 10 million sets of Bitcoin for its
- 1:22:56return. It turns out it was in the lake
- 1:23:00and we no one knows really who did it what happened, but I do
- 1:23:04like this symbolism here from grubbles.
- 1:23:06He goes there is some symbolism to the Satoshi statue being
- 1:23:09destroyed by some vandal. You literally can't even have a
- 1:23:12symbolic representation of bitcoins creator because it will
- 1:23:15be targeted and destroyed. The only way is disappearing
- 1:23:19completely past present and future and then he trolls with
- 1:23:22bits instead of sad. So, you know, Grubbles very,
- 1:23:25very, very loyal to the SAT's verse bits debate here.
- 1:23:30But let me here, I'll just go back to this picture while we
- 1:23:32kind of chat about it. So this is what it currently
- 1:23:36looks like. You know, when I first saw this,
- 1:23:40I don't, I, I, I really like what Grubble said, you know,
- 1:23:44makes you kind of think deeper. I don't necessarily think that
- 1:23:47that's the case per SE. It could just be some young kids
- 1:23:50that really just are vandalizing stuff and don't really know the
- 1:23:55significance of it, which is, I think could be one of the
- 1:23:57things. Though, if you do take kind of
- 1:23:59the more nefarious act here of someone purposefully destroying
- 1:24:03the Satoshi statue, it really does kind of sum up where we are
- 1:24:08in the story right now, where even though I think a lot of
- 1:24:12people hear or have heard about Bitcoin, very few people still
- 1:24:16take what we're doing seriously. They kind of laugh about this
- 1:24:20whole thing. They still think it's Internet
- 1:24:22nerd money. It's, you know, an Internet
- 1:24:24token. No one really takes what we're
- 1:24:27doing that seriously here. That's kind of the more cynical,
- 1:24:31more pessimistic take of this. And of course, you could, you
- 1:24:35could put your tinfoil hat on as much as you want and, and talk
- 1:24:38about who these potential people could be that are destroying the
- 1:24:42statue. Is this some kind of organized
- 1:24:44attack on on the statue itself? And, and I'll go back here.
- 1:24:47You know, you can see it with got found in the lake, etcetera.
- 1:24:51But this was kind of like the big story going around in the
- 1:24:54culture right now. And it really makes you wonder
- 1:24:55about the cultural zeitgeist around Bitcoin right now.
- 1:24:59Of course, this was kind of like an awesome thing.
- 1:25:01A lot of Bitcoiners really like the statue and they're like,
- 1:25:03man, this is so cool. You know, Satoshi should have
- 1:25:07the Nobel Peace Prize and we got a statue of them.
- 1:25:09We don't really know who it is. It was pretty, you know,
- 1:25:11cyberpunk, etcetera. And like the way you look at it,
- 1:25:13you can't really see it's a whole statue.
- 1:25:16But it is interesting to see it get vandalized and really kind
- 1:25:20of pinpoint what the intentions were behind vandalizing it.
- 1:25:25Was it? I mean, it doesn't look like it
- 1:25:26was an easy vandalize, you know, mission here.
- 1:25:31It looks like it took a lot of effort to break this thing down.
- 1:25:34So it makes you wonder who did it?
- 1:25:35Was it some young kids that were just messing around?
- 1:25:38I know when I was younger, I probably did some dumb stuff.
- 1:25:41That could be one of the reasons.
- 1:25:43The other reason is, you know, I guess maybe they just don't like
- 1:25:46Bitcoin here. But it was me.
- 1:25:51Where was he? Where were you last week?
- 1:25:53No, it wasn't me, bro. I I'm I'm Satoshi did it.
- 1:25:56That's good. That is good.
- 1:26:00Yeah. I don't know, man, but that that
- 1:26:01happened over the weekend. So someone attacked the Satoshi
- 1:26:05statue. This is what it looked like
- 1:26:08originally. And then this is where it popped
- 1:26:11up on That's crazy on the timeline, that's crazy.
- 1:26:16So who knows what really happened.
- 1:26:18But yes, that's what. Happened.
- 1:26:20This is, you know, I'm pretty sure I know what.
- 1:26:23Happened. I'm going on.
- 1:26:25I know what. Happened.
- 1:26:26All right. So Chrissy Lagarde had a night,
- 1:26:31you know, she had a night on the top, Did a good time.
- 1:26:35Yeah, we did Lugano. And she went out, you know, and
- 1:26:43she was walking, you know, the the beautiful park that they
- 1:26:46have by the lake. And she saw the Satoshi statue
- 1:26:50and she got very upset. You know that's what happened.
- 1:26:53Yeah. You know, she just, she was
- 1:26:56like. Yeah, this is a good point.
- 1:26:58They need a crane to lift it. I don't think it was one guy.
- 1:27:01I don't think this was kids. There's I don't.
- 1:27:03Think Christine Lagarde could do this herself?
- 1:27:05It's like a heavy metal statue. Do you think this was
- 1:27:07coordinated? I think this was that's.
- 1:27:09That's kind of that's, that's kind of what I'm insinuating.
- 1:27:12But to destroy the symbolism, dude, I mean, that's hardcore
- 1:27:16bro. That's not this isn't child's
- 1:27:19play dude. Like this is real, you know?
- 1:27:24Anyways, all right guys, if you guys enjoyed the show, you know
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