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🏡 The Valley Reunion Part 2: "Hooters is Closing" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Drama Darling Drama Darling. Hello, Hello, Welcome in everybody. It's
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: the Valley Reunion Day. We're gonna be talking about that
• 0:26
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  Speaker 2: the other day, I just want to mention I apologize
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  Speaker 2: I've said that before, so I just want to say
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  Speaker 2: I will catch it sooner if that happens, but I
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  Speaker 2: will keep an eye on it. It is a manual
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  Speaker 2: error and that is on me. So thank you for
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  Speaker 2: your patients and those of you who alerted me that
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  Speaker 2: that was happening. Okay, onto other business. Let me introduce
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  Speaker 2: my two fabulous co hosts this morning. Emily Dereesis and
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  Speaker 2: Deanna m Chang. Hi ladies, Hello, Hello.
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: Hello, It's good to be here. My god, this was
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: such an important episode. It feels like an honor to
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  Speaker 3: be here for this episode, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It does, so welcome into both of you.
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: So we've got a lot to cover obviously. On a
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: quick fun note, I don't know if any of you
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: caught the last Culturistas Awards last night. I did see
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: some of them on Bravo and it was just about
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: the funnest thing. It's an award show unlike any other.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just so excited that they did this and
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: that it was on Bravo. What an amazing celebration and
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  Speaker 2: so so many housewives there. That was really fun and
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  Speaker 2: Bravo people, So you guys have to check that out.
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  Speaker 2: So reunion too. Here we are on the valley picking
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  Speaker 2: up now. Last week, your bish therapist was on with
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: me recapping all of it, which was very exciting. So
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard from either one of you gals. But
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: here we are picking up with Jackson Brittany him saying like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: keep testing me with your home tests. I want to
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  Speaker 2: be held accountable. I don't want to touch drugs and alcohol.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: When he is trying to apologize and he's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's looking down, and that part when he was saying
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: to Brittany that he was sorry, he was owning everything
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: and she's like, can you look at the vice? And
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: Kristin was like, look at her in the eyes. What
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: is that all about? I'm curious what your thoughts are
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  Speaker 2: on him, just the whole episode, always just having to
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: look down and not at people.
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  Speaker 1: Really well, I think he's full of shit.
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  Speaker 4: And I think this was definitely performative and it wasn't
• 3:16
  Speaker 4: about Brittany. It was because this is pre him knowing
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  Speaker 4: he's not going to have his contract with Bravo anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So I think this was all to make sure that
• 3:27
  Speaker 4: he could be back on the valley and keep getting
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  Speaker 4: paid because we know how much she needs this job
• 3:34
  Speaker 4: and how much he prioritizes this kind of job. So
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  Speaker 4: I think like that was what that all was.
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  Speaker 2: And when he was like, I missed you, Kristen, I
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: missed our time together. I didn't come to your baby
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  Speaker 2: shower And I'm like, you mean the one that they
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: were filming, because you wanted to be filming. That's what
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, I'm like, you miss these guys because
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  Speaker 2: you're not filming with them. You know, it did feel performative,
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  Speaker 2: you know it, and that's what's so tough about it. Deanna,
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  Speaker 2: what were your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think this particular episode, I just
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  Speaker 3: got to understand what Brittany goes through, and quite frankly,
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: also what Michelle goes through on a much smaller scale,
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  Speaker 3: which is like you are in a washing machine of emotion,
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  Speaker 3: lies and then apologies, and you know, it's so overwhelming.
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  Speaker 3: It's so hard to stay centered and grounded. And I
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  Speaker 3: thought Brittany did like an incredible job of like rooting
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  Speaker 3: herself into her truth and not getting swept up, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with him. But man, it is psychological.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone has their backs, Brittany and Michelle, which it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: seem to matter, Like I'm talking about that Gal's on
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  Speaker 4: the show all had their backs, doesn't seem to matter
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  Speaker 4: what everybody's going through with each other. The thing that
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  Speaker 4: everyone agrees on is that Michelle and Brittany are correct.
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  Speaker 4: Even though, like you'll see Kristen kind of like have
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  Speaker 4: Jesse's back in a weird way. At the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, she doesn't really have his back on the
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  Speaker 4: big stuff with Michelle.
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  Speaker 3: As much as I did feel that, I was thinking
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  Speaker 3: back to like scandabal and Ariana and how much verbal
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: support she got and emotional like, I felt like everyone
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: was a little quiet even though the support was there.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought I felt lonely for Brittany up there,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know if you guys felt that at all.
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  Speaker 4: I felt lonely for Michelle up there, but not Brittany
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  Speaker 4: because any chance that Jack's had to pivot and tried
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: to make it about yeah, like he was the victim,
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  Speaker 4: they would all pounds and they would all call out
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  Speaker 4: they've seen the text, they've seen the videos. Y.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I felt lonely Andy Cohen because you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's sitting in the host chair and he's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: no one's asking me any questions.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody look at Andy. Did you hear that?
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  Speaker 4: When they come back from commercial and two, everyone look
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  Speaker 4: at Andy.
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  Speaker 2: I need attention, Come on, guys, let's no. Yeah, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I think that, like Brittany is so blameless in all
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  Speaker 2: of it, and I believe Michelle is too. The problem
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  Speaker 2: is that you know, she is like second tier. She's
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  Speaker 2: basically runner up, you know, at the pageant. Unfortunately, when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to the drama and the trauma with their relationships,
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: and I think that by the timing really is off
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  Speaker 2: for her because I really do agree with you, like
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  Speaker 2: I think people would be more on her side and
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  Speaker 2: more championing her, but they don't have any energy left
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  Speaker 2: to give Michelle because it's all going towards Brittany, and
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: Brittany was there first, so I do feel like she's
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: getting some spillover, but it's not really like the hardcore
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  Speaker 2: support that you that you want to see. And I
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  Speaker 2: will mention that we still have many seasons to go,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe the tides will turn and people will be
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: more a little more supportive towards Michelle. But so after
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: JAXX is talking about, you know, how he wants to
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  Speaker 2: be held accountable, and you know, I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: really sad that at this point he had been telling Brittany, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the right decision or not,
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  Speaker 2: and now here she is crying, going, do you know
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  Speaker 2: how hard that is for me? Because now you're trying
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: to say you want to get back together? And that
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: was something that we didn't really know even though he
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  Speaker 2: couldn't even answer the question if he still loves Brittany
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  Speaker 2: or not he wanted to move on from that. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you don't even.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you don't even know what think you that? I
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  Speaker 3: hated what did you think that?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 3: I felt like, Mike, is he moving on from it?
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  Speaker 3: Because he doesn't feel that way, but Brittany does, you know?
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  Speaker 3: Which is so heartbreaking to hear her like like the
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: fact that it's also like a might you're like, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she's still there, you know, Wow.
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  Speaker 4: She's in a shit position, and then she's got all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden like pivot and be like like, uh now,
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  Speaker 4: I gotta like have love for this person on national team.
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  Speaker 1: I just I thought it was it put.
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  Speaker 4: Her in a really bad position, especially because like we've
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  Speaker 4: just heard the litany of things that have happened to her.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of like, it's kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: but do you love him?
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, well, well, so, like yeah, I just
• 8:40
  Speaker 4: felt bad for her to have to like stand in
• 8:43
  Speaker 4: that and deal with like and then Jack and then
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  Speaker 4: get and then on top of it, to have Jax
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  Speaker 4: basically reject it was just gross.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I mean, I think we mentioned this last week,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even the week before when the Valley was wrapping
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  Speaker 2: up before the finale, but it was like, at this point,
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: everything that we had known about Jack's, why even bring
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: him to the reunion? You know, why did they allow
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: him to be on the reunion? And now we're in
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: a position where it's like we're asking stupid questions to
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  Speaker 2: somebody who is, you know, an alleged abuser and you know,
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  Speaker 2: drug addict and alcoholic and has all these issues. And
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: so now we just have to sit here and endure
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: it until we get to the end of Reunion three,
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  Speaker 2: and then I don't think that we're going to see
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: Jacks ever again. I really don't. I mean, one of
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: the things that really put things into perspective for me
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  Speaker 2: was when Jason was like, well, Jackson has been abusing
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  Speaker 2: cocaine for twenty plus years, so it's going to take
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: a while for him to stabilize. I was like, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: And now we said it when you put a number
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  Speaker 2: on the length of time, I was like, twenty years.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: And when Britney said, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like every ten minutes.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: He went to the bathroom. Yeah, And I thought that
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: to me. A couple things about that. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that was a long time ago. She obviously was young.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: She thought she could change him. But then as time
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: went on, you know, she unfortunately I don't. She must
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: have had these big blinders on to think, like you're
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: marrying somebody who has a major addiction problem. Like how
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  Speaker 2: how it got so bad.
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: With Yeah, she was doing coke and stuff with him.
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  Speaker 4: She said that she's like to give me a drug
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: test now, right like as they were partying together prior
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: to the because that was in the opening of the Valley,
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: because yeah, you just coke. She's like, give me a
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: drug test right now. I don't do it now or whatever. Yeah,
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: but she did think she started pretty hard with him.
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: See I got this sense she was like, I don't
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: like coke. I tried it. I mean, I got sense
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: that she really it's not her thing. She doesn't do weed,
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: that she was more drinking and that coke wasn't her thing,
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: you know, but.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: For whatever it is, drinking drug whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm sure that Brittany was cool with Jack's doing
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: his things so she could do her thing. And then
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: like they had a whole pattern and also again he
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: plucked her out of the fields like he in like
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: bumfuck nowhere and like basically it's like this is how
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: we live in LA and like and then all of
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: his friends and it's all on TV and so I
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: can see her getting swept up into that. And again,
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: I know I've said it before, I can't believe she
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: ever got herself out of it.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: So I can't believe he's still alive. After finding out
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: how long he has been doing this, I mean I
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: really was shocked, like I you know, and he's like,
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: you know, and here we are with the questions where
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: and he's like, well, you so you were doing coke
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: and filming and you know, I guess everybody, I mean
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: everybody knew it at the time. I guess I just
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: didn't realize is that it was happening all the time,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: not just on camera, like it was a major lifestyle
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  Speaker 2: And when he admitted or at least said that if
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: he didn't go to rehab, he would have died, And
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is that true, Like is that really true?
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: I don't really know, but I think eventually yes. But
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: was there an incident recently where things got so bad
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: where he had to go to the hospital. We didn't
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: hear anything about that, you know, I think, well, ye.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: Him and Brittany both aligned on that, which made me
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: feel that was true. And I don't know what that
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: looks like.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it had.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: Reached a tipping point of no return where she's now
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: expecting to see him dead in a bathtub, so like,
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: and he co signed on that, which I kind of thought,
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: this feels very true that this is where things were
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: at whatever that means, you know.
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's being well, he's at
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: a point now he's being totally reckless financially, all bets
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: are we're off. And then I'm sure he was reckless
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: in every category and including like taking maybe bad pills
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: So it could have happened.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I don't true.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that.
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the end of Jacks because
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: I can see him Jacks is he.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: Will be a cockroach. I mean, we we said that
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: about like Sandoval. We didn't know what was going to
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: happen to him, But it's it's a different story with Sandoval.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you really can't compare Jackson Sandoval. I mean,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: there's it's just two totally different things. I don't know, well,
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  Speaker 2: I just I just don't really know where he's going
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: to be. I mean, I just don't see him coming
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: back to the valley, that's for sure. We we found
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: out that he's not coming back. Yeah.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of reality shows that take ne'er
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  Speaker 3: do wells, you know.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Right, that's true.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a fair point. I think I think
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: we did his circle back like a couple of weeks,
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: so I think we did sort of go through some
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: of the shows that might have him.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Oh and I love that Brittany was like, you came
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: up to me, vigas you Avid, give up to you Avid,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: d you. I mean, him trying to paint the picture
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: as if she was using him, you know, to get
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: to where she is now is just such a joke.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: I mean that's why when you're watching him do these apologies,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: he's vacillating between saying all the right things that he's
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: been working on and and I think that's what Andy
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: was acknowledging when he said, well, I've never seen him
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: take this much accountability. I mean, you know, I mean,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I guess he was just trying to put it out
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: there like he's doing more than we've seen him do
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: and I'm just observing that. Does anybody see that?
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: There was also a lot of like, well, the producers
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: never saw you do that, right, And Jack's being like,
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: absolutely not, the producers never saw me do a wall
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: full of coke. So I feel like he's There's a
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: little bit of back and forth there, like subconscious or not,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: like Jack's being like, I'm still like I'm taking accountability
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: and I'm also getting you guys off the hook and
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Andy being like, wow, very sincere. Rob absolutely never knew
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: I Meanwhile, everyone at home is like we watched him
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: literally sweat coke out of his eyes, Like.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know drugs, so I never know, Like I
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: will never know drugs are not drugs, like I just
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: couldn't couldn't tell.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Ya, you know, well, you know, like Diana, all you
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: need to know is that it makes stars, you know, yeah,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: makes reality stars. It makes our villains, and that's where
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: we are. Brittany really is she did great? She did,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: and I love that. She was like, I'll beat our therapist.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Tell us rather away you you kid treat the polar
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: and you could treat.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Drug presh was it or yeah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Something or addiction? I don't know, but you can't, but
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: you can't treat narcissism. It's like it's so true. And
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I love that she knows that, and he knows that,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: and we all know that, we're all here.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Zach, Zach really knows that. I don't know if they
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: all know that, you know, because it feels like the
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: boy sort of Jason doesn't seem to know that, but
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Zach knows that. And Zach was really helpful, you know
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: during this episode.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach was very funny. He's like, I have tens
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: years with her, and Zach's like, you threw that away.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Somebody who's like, I don't hate him, I hate him.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I hate him. Yeah, that's narcissism talking. See how he
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: just says, you know my son, Like all of it
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: was just yes.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys a question because like we've
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: seen Jacks all these years, and I just don't know
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: what Britney actually saw in him that was good? Do
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: No, I would have I gotta tell you guys, I
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: would have absolutely one been Brittany. I would have fully committed,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: especially at that age. I would have been on vander
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: pump Roules with Jack's and married and been paying a
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: bajillion dollars a month for his taxes and mortgage. I mean,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I can because I just know, and I was that age,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: and I came from a small town and I and
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I had the aspirations of moving to LA and all that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: So I can totally see me being swept up in
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: a love bomb situation. Older guy has the world by
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: the balls, and I would have believed every lie.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I like to think I would have snapped out of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: it by thirty, but I don't know. I know, yeah,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you never know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: No, You're absolutely right, Emily, Yeah, But I just also
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: am like thinking, well, what was the love bombing? Because
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like I've ever even seen the love
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: bombing part. What have you guys ever seen the love
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: bombing part? That's what I'm kind of wondering. Like, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: know he was like I love you, will you marry me?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But honestly, I don't really see even what the chemistry
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: was between them, and she is like I loved him.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I mean it's practically like a Dolly parton from the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Soul like you killed me. It says I love you,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I would stayed by you, And I am like, what
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: did you love, Like, I really don't get it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: He is charismatic and he is he what I mean
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: he I'll throw him under good looking, but he was
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: really good looking back then. Sure he's got that swagger
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and the kind of guy that walks into a room
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and everyone's going to notice him, you know.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So that a lot like one on one, one on
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: one you're hanging out with. What is happening?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: She's she was very want to get granular.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just respond just being and I mean,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: like we know, Jax gets back to you real quick
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and can focus on you very quickly, just in terms
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: of just like hey we're going to jack Jack's. We're
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: gonna go to your bar.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: He'll get right back to you, you know, like if
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you mess it, you know, so it's like experienced. He
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: might be full of shit.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So he's someone who gets back to you. All right,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: we're going to ride draw.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I get it, I get it, I get it about it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I love a celebrity. She a girl, little girl, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: he's a celebrity. I mean, he is being responsive. I'm
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: gonna say it's not necessarily love bombing, but just him
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: being telling Brittany something like I've never.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Felt this way before. I've never told anybody this.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: We all know that's bullshit, But to Brittany, it's like, whoa,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I'm the one and I'm going to argue. The entire
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: staff of vander Pump of Sir also was like love
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: bombing because they all were like Jack's has never acted
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: like this before.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jax is so into you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's a.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Good I need. I want to go back and like
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: see what how they were even hanging out, because I
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: just see them now and I'm like, what did you
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: guys do when you're alone? Like I can't even imagine
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: you guys getting along? Sounds like such an asshole to
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: be around, even just outside of asshole.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: You have to also, what I remembered at the time
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: when when they when he proposed he had just lost
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: his dad, And part of the narcissistic thing is like
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Brittany was there at that time, and he was in
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: this emotional tsunami where he was like, I'm gonna be
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: better for my dad, and I'm and this girl has
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: stayed beside me. He sent her to me. We are
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: meant to be so all of that, I remember thinking like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: oh god, this is such a situational thing where she's
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: going to get swept up into it because mentally he's
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: going down this whole road of like I'm going to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: turn a page for my dad. It's all. It was
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: all kind of fused at that time. Yeah, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: And so that feels amazing because it feels ordained.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes nice because I'm wondering what was she
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: getting out of this relationship this whole time? And and
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, you guys have both sort of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: painted that picture, and I thank you for the reminder
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: or really just the awakening, because I you know, it's
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: hard to look back and to see like, how did
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: we even get here? And one she says how much
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: she was loved him and how hard it is for
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: her despite how much he's done to hurt her and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: all the things. I just go, Wow, she really loved him.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: What was it about him that she loved? So that's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: what I was wondering. And then, you know, for her
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to get these dms from women that he been with
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: saying you know, and she's like, I don't deserve to
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: have to read that stuff. What a nightmare to have
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to be dealing with that. And then the other thing
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: is when she called him out for being dried drunk.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You know that he still has the same patterns of
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: someone who's lived this way for his whole life. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: also really appreciated when they were asked, you said that
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: this wasn't the first time that Jacks was diagnosed with bipolar.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: What did you mean by that? And to find out
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: before they started filming the valley that Brittany and Jack's
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: sister had, you know, had confronted Jack's about going to
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: see somebody. He went to see somebody, he was diagnosed
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: with bipolar, He was given medication, and then he never
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: took it. What were your thoughts on that, you guys.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Well, we need that was in the season, right.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was talked about, right. I didn't know the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: timeline of it like that it was right before they
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: started filming, because I thought it may have been a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: long time ago. But it was pretty which I find interesting.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That timeline to me was was pretty important.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't it was, But it's Jacks like timelines, past,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: like logic, like past punishments, past, whatever. None of it
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: seems to stick. And going into this season, I can
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: see them being like, you know, this is why I
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: think he's gonna have a resurgence, even on Bravo, because
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: it's going to be the new Jacks.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It's always the new Jacks we get introduced to. It's
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: always like.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: He's fixed, right.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, and I think that's what this was too.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: We're gonna watch and if if the wheels come off,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: well then we're gonna we're gonna see that too. And yeah,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: with a divorce, I think that was very or the
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: separation was really compelling to film.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: You know. I mean, it takes a long time for
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: someone to wrap their head around their diagnosis too, So
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that was helpful for me to find out that they
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: had just you know, he had just sought you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: some sort of help about his mental health condition, probably
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: what three years ago, maybe four tops if there's been
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: two seasons. So if it happened right before filming, it
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: makes so much sense that he wasn't you know, getting
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: help for that, and then things just went bad to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: worse worse, worse worse, and then you know, the lies
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: just don't stop because they were like, yeah, you didn't
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: take your bipolar medication and you refuse to continue to
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: get help and he's like, oh, I'm taking it now.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: It's It's changed my life. I can't live without it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And then in the same sentence, Brittany's like, well, Hacklebed,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: would you get you yell? Made your I agree your
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: rights takes to that you say you have taken your medication.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this guy, oh, this.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Can get it is not like to do what she
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: did and hold it the f down during this reunion,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Like she didn't get swayed by him. I was so impressed.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: That is so not easy. I mean I'm getting swayed,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm getting like caught up in some
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: loops and like she just was so amazing, like amazing.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I thought I was so impressed with her. Were you
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: guys impressed with her?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah it was.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I think I think I was actually like by the
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: end of the reunion, I was totally I'm always I
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: really like Brittany.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm always impressed with her.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: What I what I was like seeing Jason at the
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: end of the reunion go so hard on Danny.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, where was that for Jack's like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: totally yeah, he you.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Know, like because I was surprised at Jason's like, no,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: this is not okay for Danny but like for Jacks,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, you know, give him a break.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's dealing with whoever's messing with his wife.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: If you're talking about his wife, he's going to be
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: on your ass. Jack say, isn't that is what he's doing?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: That probably makes sense. Also, Jack's got them on the show.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that that is Jason's no but
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: motives uperandi, but you know he definitely they know what
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: side of the brother is buttered because they that was
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: their in to the Valley. Also, Kristen, that was interesting
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to hear Kristen say, I knew Janet as this like funny,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: great gal, and the second she got on the Valley,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: she's a completely different person. That to me says a
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: lot And like, I honestly don't even know what to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: make of that. I'm like, is that just what happens
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: naturally when you have cameras and or was she conniving before?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I really don't know what to think of that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know how Jason watched this whole season and
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: doesn't see what we see and everyone on the couches
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: sees with Janet and the manipulation.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But that's fine.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I do think She was probably very cool because she Yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: no one would be friends with her otherwise, right, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: want to do the show with her.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I mean even the way she was looking at Danny
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: and Nia I was getting angry, Like when they were
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: talking and she was like like, wait, you know, it's like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: please give me a break. You know, these are a
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: nice you know, Danny has things to deal with, but
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: they're they're all so bitter. I mean, Jack starting the
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: season saying he's going to go for them for Danny
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: is like I needed to hear that, even though I
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: think knew it. It was a big Really, you know.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Did you know that that Jack
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: had said he was going to go for Danny before
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the season started. I didn't know that, did you Guys?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: We felt it, like I think we all felt like
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: he has a plan to be like I see write
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: off me and putting it on this small man.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Because he has said it in different ways.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this diminutive man. I'm this is where I'm going to.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Well, he does have small hands. I have noticed the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: small hands in it. I agree, but that's okay, just
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: neither hear no there right.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Uh, He's mentioned it in different ways that was pretty direct. Yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I know even how to feel about that, because I'm like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I I don't want to side with Janet at all,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: but I definitely am like Janet and or Jasmine and
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Michelle clearly are feeling a certain way that something that
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: this went down, and I believe them, And it's weird
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: then to see Dotie be like it's not true, it's
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: not true, and it's like wait, what, Like, okay, cut
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Janet out of this, let's just talk to the people
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: that happened to They're saying this happened. So it's a
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: weird vibe because as much as I like Danny and Nia,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I absolutely I'm like, what is your deal, dude? Enough
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: people are saying some things with an s went down. Well.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Janet really dropped at the very end by saying like,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: there have been two more incidents that happened since the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: super Bowl, so you know, what is that all about?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And they were very emphatic that did not happen. That's
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: a lie. So you know, we really don't know because
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: now when these things now that's all kicked up, people
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: could be starting to create rumors out of nothing because
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: they know it's something that's out there already, do you
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, like the people that are dming Jack's right, right, right, Brittany, Now,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: like come on, but I.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Do think we've seen Danny there is a turn that
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: he has when he's drinking. Like that's that, you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: so I could see more things happening. Absolutely. Maybe I
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: am on Janet side.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know, Like I agree with you in
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that you know, look where there's smoke, there's fire, and
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you know this has been starting, this is starting to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: be addressed in his life. You know, for him to
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: be at a bar, he was like he has you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: we okay, we had a flashback to the apology to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Melissa and Jasmine. I was on antibiotics. I was you know,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I was too drunk. I was this. I was that
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I hadn't eaten three under three, you know that, all
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: that stuff, and then we have like abhorrent behavior into
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: which it's so serious that yeah, these gals don't even
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: want to talk about it that often, but they in fact,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: they're the ones that aren't even really perpetuating it most
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of the time. It's Janet that keeps bringing it back.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And that's what's obvious is that you know, but the
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: one thing that we did here in this episode was
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the white party and how you know, when Jasmine pulled
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: him aside and wanted to talk about the incident again,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: he was like, are we really doing this again? That's gross?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I understand Nia's like, well, he apologized,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: He apologized, He apologized. You also have to understand this
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: is part of the show. Now, this is you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it's not just two people who feel like they need
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: yet another apology. But you know, certainly there's some stuff
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: there with Danny and yeah, they were exposed. He was exposed.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: You know, he was exposed, Zach was exposed, Jesse was exposed,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Janet was exposed, Michelle was exposed.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: He only sposed who Aaron that cutaway that never Baron
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: before seen shot of him and Jesse talking shit. I
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: was like this mother, Like when he was sitting there
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: saying about his past relationship with her or.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: About being at the park, Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I saw that as nothing.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I saw that as like, does not have her back?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I to me him being like she
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: was talking about we were discussing these dates I was
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: having and then yeah, she mentioned the only time we
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: talked about you was when you guys were getting I
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: didn't see that as much. Am I tripping?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't really, I didn't see it as much.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: But that told a story of an emotional affair in
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the sense that, like you can imagine what their relationship
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: was like that it was innocent. They kind of like, oh,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: you know, we're at the park and oh my gosh,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: these girls that I'm dating, and you know, it's like, oh,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: well you should try this, like maybe if you do
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: this when I my husband used to do this for me,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't really do that for me anymore. And
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: then the next thing you know, she's giving him advice
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: on girls they're they're seeing each other more often, and
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: then she's like underfiling, Yeah, I completely agree. Michelle doesn't
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: want to admit that, and to be honest with you,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: with you, that's fine. She's not going to admit much
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: because Jessee's such a class a asshole and I don't
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: blame her for holding onto that. But it was kind
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: of funny that she was there, Like was it emotional, Michelle?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: She's like, no, no, none at all. It's like, okay,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: well we can tell that it is a little She's
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: not going to admit that that's fine, but at the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: end of the day, she'll probably realize that at some
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: point in her life. Whether she wants to realize that now,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: she will later. Because the point of that is is
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: that when someone's giving you attention, and regardless if they're
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: talking about their girlfriends, but they're interested in you and
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: it's attractive person, and you guys are having like some
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: sort of chemistry situation, it becomes what it led to,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: which was a relationship, a full on relationship. It was
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: interesting to find out that Michelle didn't have the relationship
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: that Kristen was referring to, completely different person. Did you
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: guys see that coming?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, now, was that Quentin Tarantina?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Right, oh right, legend which one was Quentin Tarantina? But
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: you know the fact that like to me, I don't
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not in line with you guys about the emotional affair.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And I say that because I think you can like
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: shoot the breeze and have a relationship with someone that's
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: at the opposite sex and connect and maybe it's getting
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: deeper as a connection, But I don't necessarily throw that
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: into an emotional affair.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Not always.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just feels like a stretch, and.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: It would be a stretch if they didn't end up together.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: But they ended up together. So I was setting in
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: that direction. But I agree with you one Danna that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: people can have conversations at the park and there's nothing
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: and there's nothing to it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen. But you may be like, yeah, if
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I wasn't married, i'd bang this person.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't You're right, It doesn't mean that it
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: was an emotional fair. I at agree.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I think an emotional fair to me is you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: you're having these conversations of the park, then you're texting
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: each other, then you're getting into bed at night and
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: saying like, how was your day? And you know what
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a little like to me, that's
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: an emotional fair. This is like he's hot, we're talking,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I'd bang him. Now I'm separated and I am going
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: to bang him right right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I see what
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: you're saying.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good way to break it down. Yeah,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I mean I get that. I do get that. Yes,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I do get that. Okay, Well, I know I don't
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: know how I feel, but regardless, I do think I
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: think there's they ended up having an affair. I guess
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: we can all probably agree.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can say that that is but.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: For somebody breaking somebody like she was with somebody else.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, like it's so blurry because
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: like then you hear Jesse is like offering to eat out.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And that's a new information. That's just fun. You know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: this is like a blurred like they are blurred lines.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: You know, I've always said this. You know, realtors.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Speak on it, speak on it. Damn it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, let's discuss how Andy interrupted something at
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: some point when it was extremely intense and said, by
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: the way, is everyone upset at their closing Hooters and
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the fact that there wasn't an awkward silence? Everyone just
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: immediately jumped in immediately. I'm so sorry, I'm so bummed,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and Brittany wanting to branch out and have had maybe
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: had one of the franchises. I thought that was a
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: brilliant idea, and unfortunately it's not going to happen.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: This is the first i'd heard about it closing. I
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: didn't know that was happening.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it either, So it feels like it's
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a real save exclusive yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And it just so valley for them to care is
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: so it's so perfectly valley, right.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: All right, So why don't we get into Well, I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: do want to mention Cruse. This is where I really
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: felt the heaviest for Brittany, because Jax was so absent
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: as a parent, you know, during the entire time in
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: which he was showing symptoms and he started to change
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: he when he turned two. He was digressing, digressing, he
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: was doing, he was stemming, and she had to really
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: be the one who was taking him to all the appointments,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: getting all the diagnosis, getting the referrals, you know, and
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: that is so complicated to do, so to have to
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: do it alone speaks volumes and shows what an absentee,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: neglectful parent he was for the entirety of really the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: beginning of Cruz's extremely important life. So when he says
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: things like, you know, Cruz, yeah, He's the best thing
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I ever did, I just want to I just want
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: to just do stuff, you know, I just want to
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: do stuff that makes me upset because I just think,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: like it it's not about you, you know, it's not
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: about you. And all this stuff that Brittany's been doing,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: like you didn't even realize how important it was, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you were not there.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Well out of rehab, getting like botox and hanging out
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: with Schwartz, like still not seeing cruise.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you talk about like.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Who believes Jack's It's like a lot of people do,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: because he can get away with telling these bullshit stories
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: to people, and then when it hits the it hits
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: like our ears or anybody that actually knows him, they're like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: hang on a second, dude, this isn't Yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good at what he does. He really is. Yeah,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: slippery little fucker.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: You know, Jesse said something about seeing Michelle's text about
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: wanting to destroy and expose Jesse's girlfriend at the time,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the bay Watch, and that was new information because then
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: it was like after that, that's when the girlfriend was
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: threatening a cease and desist, was after she perhaps saw
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: this text message about wanting to destroy and expose Baywatch Gal.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: And that tells a different story to me. I thought, Michelle,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: do you have blood on your hands for this one?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure she was mad, but Jesse's bad shit.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I don't believe anything Justice says.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know to believe him either, but was that true.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say probably not. I'm sure
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: she was upset that Jesse had her around their kid,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, she came after Janet too, allegedly, right,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: she came after different people on the show.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, yeah that's true. All right? Who knows?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah is called out and he knows he's wrong.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: He's like, ah, yeah, okay, yes I did say that
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: she slept with someone for X amount of dollars, Like, oh.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Like A.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Right that?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: I I wondered, you know what I mean?
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I wonder, like, well, sure, when it's put out there,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: so the fac that we're lightly just bouncing that off
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: our shoulder, like, wow, he is he is, Baby Jack's.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: It's just in a in a different formation.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: By American psycho. I keep going to American psycho.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did hear that he had a relationship with
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: that man that was at the wedding.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: That Jesse did allegedly had you heard that? Oh wowea interesting,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: the one that was selling the money. Okay, that he
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: was with me for several years. What why wouldn't Michelle
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: bring them up the rooms?
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Well, I think she is trying to I think she's
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I think she's like, follow the money, everybody who's paying
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: your bills, and like it's this guy. I do think
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: she's putting it out there pretty hard without I.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Think it was a friend. But you know that's fine,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like he may be
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: a bisexual man who was getting paid.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Well, that would be a whole other level of deflection
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: if he's the one who's getting paid to do things
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: after projected, Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry projecting, not deflecting. I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: just get to so boggled up.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Thing's going on. Everything's going on over.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: There, allegedly major allegislation. Yeah, man, but I got I
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: got a host of pictures and everything.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: What I don't know, you don't know. Huh oh my gosh.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, earphones went out. She can't hear you.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Now, I gotta wrap this up so we can talk
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Could also be a friend. They have a gay friend. Great,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: who's older, Great, who gives them money? Great? You know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: it's not to say it's one hundred percent. And actually
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: listening to the positioning, he was one of fifty two
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: at the way, I'm like, well, maybe maybe this is
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: a well a pal and you have a lot of
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: pictures with the.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Pal that that introduction of one of fifty two is
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: not the flex that he thought it was. To compliment
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: his friend, like if if you said that about me,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: where you're like, well, you know, Amy was one of
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: fifty two people at my wedding, so she's really close.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how does that really, at the end of
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the day elevate that person?
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, on that just a little bit.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, both of you are saying because
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: weddings and price points, is that what you're saying?
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of weddings are like one
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: hundred hundred and fifty two hundred people to fifty. So
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: if you have a smaller wedding and you've made the
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: cut of fifty two with two families and friends, I'm.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Like, okay, it's a small wedding to cost. Like, what
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: do you say one hundred and fifty grand? I couldn't
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: believe that.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: He says their wedding past one hundred and fifty grand? Wow?
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: When did they say that?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: They're early?
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: And oh wow? Miss that because Andy's like, why are
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: you making how much did your wedding cost?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: And why?
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: And now he come back and trying to coffee.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: Did it slur Well, it just goes oh oh god, Okay,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: if anyone is wondering, it's just a Starbucks, gorgeous little
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: morning starting up spirit me up.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, wow.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Well that's why he went to Michelle to pay for
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: half or something. But I need to if you guys
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: didn't hear one hundred and fifty maybe I didn't, but I.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Was like, oh my god, oh, I'm sure.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: You're right money on it, because I didn't even hear
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: him say anything about that, so like, I missed it entirely.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I wanted to mention before we wrap up, Danny admitting
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: to hiding in the pantry from the cameras very important information.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Glad we got there.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: And I also, like Jacks, need to sincerely apologize from
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: the bottom of my heart for only now coming up
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: with Dantrey.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: The pun instead of pantry.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: We should have been saying Dantry still sick with Dana Clarita.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: But I could have gotten to Dantrey and it did
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: cost one hundred and fifty thousand dollars fifty two people.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I just confirmed it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, good job.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, that the cost of not getting to dance right.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I thought it was the penalty.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Hi, now pay the.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Michelle needs to pay for that wedding, for my punishment,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: for my yeah, my pun pun ishmn oh boy.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Now we're talking ding ding ding. Well, it looks like
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: we're going to get into more of Danny's stuff and
• 51:22
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