Latest / Best of Business / Dr Claire Matthews: Head of Massey University's Finance school on the Reserve Bank's proposed changes to capital lending
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- 0:09Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow
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- 0:17Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank is proposing to change the rules around
- 0:19Speaker 2: how much money our banks are supposed to hold for
- 0:21Speaker 2: a rainy day. So they're reviewing the so called capital
- 0:24Speaker 2: requirement rules, which are supposed to help retail banks whether
- 0:27Speaker 2: a one in two hundred year crisis, but they're widely
- 0:30Speaker 2: considered to be onerous and very conservative. Doctor Clare Matthews
- 0:33Speaker 2: is Massy University's banking expert High Clear, Hi, Heather, how
- 0:37Speaker 2: do you feel about them going softer?
- 0:41Speaker 3: I'm reason to be comfortable. The reality is there's been
- 0:44Speaker 3: a lot of comment about the fact that the current
- 0:48Speaker 3: regulations we're seen as a little bit higher than they
- 0:50Speaker 3: need to be. So all we're looking at is bringing
- 0:53Speaker 3: them back to what is really seen as a more
- 0:55Speaker 3: reasonable level.
- 0:57Speaker 2: And which of the two options do.
- 0:58Speaker 3: You prefer at the stage? I don't have a strong preference.
- 1:03Speaker 3: I think we need to have a little bit more
- 1:05Speaker 3: time to have a look at them and just see
- 1:08Speaker 3: exactly what are the implications of them both.
- 1:10Speaker 2: How would you feel at us about us unwinding it
- 1:12Speaker 2: all together? Going back to the way it was pre
- 1:14Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Well, that's an option, but I think the reality is
- 1:19Speaker 3: that it's reason able to suggest that before twenty nineteen
- 1:22Speaker 3: we were perhaps a little bit light, so beefing it
- 1:24Speaker 3: up a little bit, but perhaps not just not as
- 1:27Speaker 3: far as the current rules have taken us.
- 1:30Speaker 2: I mean, there are some estimations that if we had
- 1:32Speaker 2: gone all the way through with this, we would be
- 1:34Speaker 2: paying twenty five basis points, maybe thirty eight bases points
- 1:38Speaker 2: too much in contrast to the Australians. Would you say
- 1:41Speaker 2: that's about right.
- 1:43Speaker 3: I haven't done the calculations, but I'm prepared to accept
- 1:46Speaker 3: that those calculations are probably accurate.
- 1:48Speaker 2: And so therefore if we stop it in its tracks,
- 1:50Speaker 2: won't be as much as that, but we could potentially
- 1:51Speaker 2: save a fair chunk in money that we're not going
- 1:54Speaker 2: to have to pay.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, it will have an impact on the rates
- 1:59Speaker 3: that are charged on home loans and other lending and
- 2:02Speaker 3: therefore all juice three payments, and that's got to be
- 2:05Speaker 3: good for everybody.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Yeah, listen on that. Do you have any concern about
- 2:09Speaker 2: the fact that this is this review has quite clearly
- 2:11Speaker 2: come about because the Finance minister has been asking for it.
- 2:17Speaker 3: I mean that is a concern, the political intervention. But
- 2:22Speaker 3: given that it's reasonable that you know, there have been
- 2:26Speaker 3: a lot of people that have said that actually the
- 2:28Speaker 3: bank Reserve Bank went too far. It's just taken the
- 2:32Speaker 3: government intervention to actually force them to have another look
- 2:34Speaker 3: at it. So, yes, some disquiet, but not a huge amount.
- 2:39Speaker 2: And then what about Christopher Luxen this morning saying that
- 2:42Speaker 2: he thought the Reserve Bank should have cut the ocr
- 2:44Speaker 2: lower earlier. Is that also a little bit of overstepping
- 2:48Speaker 2: the mark rey the independence?
- 2:49Speaker 3: What do you think, Oh, it's fine to offer an opinion,
- 2:53Speaker 3: but the problem is when you're the prime minister, it's
- 2:55Speaker 3: more than an opinion. It's seeking to sway what's happening.
- 2:59Speaker 3: And yes, that really is going beyond what should be
- 3:02Speaker 3: being said, given that we do have an independent Reserve
- 3:04Speaker 3: Bank and they're making their judgment call.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Okay, But the thing is we all know the Reserve
- 3:09Speaker 2: Bank is wrong, right, we're looking at it. We can
- 3:11Speaker 2: all see they shout a cut earlier. We all knew
- 3:13Speaker 2: the capital requirements were too onerous. So if you have
- 3:16Speaker 2: to choose between them actually getting on the right track
- 3:18Speaker 2: with a little bit of political help versus independence, which
- 3:21Speaker 2: is more important to you.
- 3:24Speaker 3: To be honest, Actually, the independence is more important because
- 3:27Speaker 3: the political interference at the moment might not be too bad,
- 3:31Speaker 3: but there's a strong risk that you know, it's a
- 3:34Speaker 3: slippery slope, and you know a little bit now and
- 3:36Speaker 3: it gets a lot more significant later on. So independence
- 3:39Speaker 3: would win out over the benefits of the little bit
- 3:43Speaker 3: of political push that we've had so far.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Claire, thanks for your time and your expertise. That's Claire Matthews,
- 3:47Speaker 2: Doctor Claire Matthews, Matthew University Banking expert.
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