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The Kenny Report | 25 May · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me for another week here on the
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Report tonight, the Albanesi government battles to fight its
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  Speaker 1: way out of its budget blues, but instead of its
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  Speaker 1: own lies and broken promises, it blames the media. The
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  Speaker 1: ABC in denial about its role in the rise of
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  Speaker 1: Andy Semitism, and now it's running propaganda for the Islamic
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  Speaker 1: Republic of Iran as well. Sarah Henderson will join me
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  Speaker 1: the sad passing of Ozzie Rules legend and MND Warrior
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  Speaker 1: Neil Danaher. I'll get Mark Robinson's thoughts. I'll cross to
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  Speaker 1: London too to check in on how Clarkson's farm star
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Cooper fared down under and in the Monday Panel,
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  Speaker 1: Gemmut and Caroline on all the budget fallout and Bob
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  Speaker 1: Catter calling for a shark cull. It'll be two weeks
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow since Anthony Albanezi and Jim handed down one of
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  Speaker 1: the most economically reckless and ethically challenged budgets in our
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  Speaker 1: nation's political history. Not only does this budget lock in
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  Speaker 1: reckless spending, high inflation, high debt, high interest rates and
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  Speaker 1: high taxes, but it's full of broken promises and lies,
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  Speaker 1: introducing policies that Labor specifically and repeatedly ruled out. At
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  Speaker 1: a time when respect for governments, politics and institutions are
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  Speaker 1: in decline, this represents a new loan. So do you
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  Speaker 1: think this would lead to self reflection from Labor, MPs
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  Speaker 1: and ministers. No chance. They're trying desperately to spray their
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  Speaker 1: blame everywhere else, Blaming the opposition, blaming vested interests, blaming
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  Speaker 1: business interests, and desperately. Now even the media.
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  Speaker 2: Man bites dog. It's an old journalism phrase, dog bites
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  Speaker 2: man normal, But man bites dog now that's news. And
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  Speaker 2: I think this explains a lot about the media coverage
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  Speaker 2: of the recent federal budget. The Australian media have found
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  Speaker 2: some young people who think they'll be worse off from
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  Speaker 2: the federal budget, and suddenly they're everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: How about government breaks promise? Is that news? How about
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  Speaker 1: government lies to voters? How about government puts the bite
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  Speaker 1: on taxpayers money? How about new taxes on housing investment
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  Speaker 1: and trusts that labours said they would not impose? Is
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  Speaker 1: that not news? These people are not only dishonest, they're deluded.
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  Speaker 1: Albanesian charmers won't admit they've wronged us. Instead, they reckon
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  Speaker 1: they're being wronged.
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  Speaker 3: What we'll see from the right wing parties and some
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  Speaker 3: of their allies outside the Parliament is a whole lot
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  Speaker 3: of misinformation which is out there.
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  Speaker 4: We anticipated our political opponents engaging in the usual scare
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  Speaker 4: campaigns built on.
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  Speaker 1: And we're seeing that too. Look as Eva the Great
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  Speaker 1: Johannes League has cut through all this noise and told
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  Speaker 1: us exactly what's happening here. Here's his cartoon in Today's Australian.
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  Speaker 1: What about the broken trust? Spits the hapless elbow, as
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  Speaker 1: his treasurer replies, we'll tax those as well. Yeah, anything
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  Speaker 1: that stands still long enough, yull tax. Labour's now looking
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  Speaker 1: at ways it can fiddle with its own broken promises
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  Speaker 1: to try and quell some of the opposition. But apart
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  Speaker 1: from dishonesty and blaming everyone else, what really must annoy
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  Speaker 1: voters is Labour's social media presence. It shows they really
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  Speaker 1: do take voters for fools.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about negative hearing and capital gainst
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  Speaker 5: tax the way they would tonight. Top up this is
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  Speaker 5: graff and Giraffe owns the house that he lives in.
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  Speaker 5: He also owns a second house that he rents out.
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  Speaker 1: Because every time we think national politics has hid its nadir,
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  Speaker 1: someone finds a way to drag it down even lower.
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  Speaker 1: Also in Canberra, what about this talk of the Teals
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  Speaker 1: forming a new political party. I have to say it's
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  Speaker 1: a kind of hilarious story. This one broken in the
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  Speaker 1: Nine Media newspapers by Nick Newling and Paul Sackel on
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. It said a bunch of Teal MPs and
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  Speaker 1: senators were in advanced talks to form a new political
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  Speaker 1: entity that might even rope in some Liberal moderates. There
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  Speaker 1: were even reports that former Liberal Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull
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  Speaker 1: might be involved, but he later denied those reports. Now
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  Speaker 1: there was nothing wrong with this reporting. Good on Newling
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  Speaker 1: and Sackle for first flushing all this out and won
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  Speaker 1: some early endorsement. There's plenty of conversations going on all
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  Speaker 1: the time. I mean, this is something and you're open
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  Speaker 1: to this.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm always happy to chat about the future of
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  Speaker 6: our country.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting, Stuffy. The reason the story made me
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  Speaker 1: chuckle is that they've always acted just like a party.
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  Speaker 1: These clowns. They run the same policies, they argue the
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  Speaker 1: same points on the same issues. Most of them use
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  Speaker 1: the same colors and slogans, and they've all taken funding
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  Speaker 1: and advice from Climate two hundred, the Global Warming Action
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  Speaker 1: Entity run by Simon Holmes a Court, the millionaire son
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  Speaker 1: of the resources billionaire the late Robert Holmes a Court.
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  Speaker 1: My point's always been that they walk like a party,
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  Speaker 1: they talk like a party, so they are a party
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  Speaker 1: and they should be more honest about that instead of
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  Speaker 1: pretending that there are an accidental collection of independence. So
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  Speaker 1: this development, in my view, is about the so called
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  Speaker 1: tills finally being honest about what they're on about. It's
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  Speaker 1: about a de facto party actually getting married and becoming
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  Speaker 1: an official party.
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  Speaker 6: My view on this is that you need to meet
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  Speaker 6: the moment, and we've got some challenges facing our country,
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  Speaker 6: which say, I think there's some different options need to
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  Speaker 6: be on the table, whether it's an evolution, whether it's
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  Speaker 6: a party, whether it's just working together differently.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all this talk of working together and parties is
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  Speaker 1: already frightening some of them away.
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  Speaker 7: Though well.
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  Speaker 4: I stood for Parliament as an independent because I thought
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  Speaker 4: the part is with a problem.
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  Speaker 8: I have no intention of running in the next selection
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  Speaker 8: as anything other than a community independent for Kyok.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is that for Monique Ryan, a new party
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  Speaker 1: might not be left wing enough. Some commentary has referred
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  Speaker 1: to this move as a new centrist party. But any
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  Speaker 1: Till party won't be centrist. It will be green left,
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  Speaker 1: just like all the Tills are green left. Except for
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  Speaker 1: Menique Ryan, of course, she's a bit further off to
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  Speaker 1: the loopy left. Maybe the left is about fracture, just
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  Speaker 1: like the right, and just on the fracturing of the
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  Speaker 1: right of center vote. One Nation, as you know, is
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  Speaker 1: dominating our national political debate. They're more popular than ever before,
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  Speaker 1: more influential than ever before, and therefore you would think
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  Speaker 1: more mainstream than ever before. After all, they smashed the
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  Speaker 1: Liberals at the South Australian state election in March, they
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  Speaker 1: won their first ever federal lower House seat in their
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  Speaker 1: own right in the Pharaoh by election, and the latest
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  Speaker 1: polling speculation has them gazumping the Coalition federally next time around.
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  Speaker 1: But in the face of this, do you think the
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  Speaker 1: political elites would examine their own policies and their own retoric.
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  Speaker 1: Would they try to find out what voters actually think? Naho,
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  Speaker 1: of course not they denounce one nation and its supporters
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  Speaker 1: as extremists. They give us the old Hillary Clinton deplorable stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They just never learn. And our university, sadly, our largely
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  Speaker 1: publicly funded universities are hotbeds of this disconnect, hotbeds of
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  Speaker 1: this sneering. Let me tell you about an event that's
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  Speaker 1: part of the Australian Festival of Democracy and Human Rights
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  Speaker 1: hosted by the University of Queensland Social Change Lab next week.
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  Speaker 1: It's titled Tackling the Rise of the far Right the
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  Speaker 1: Quality Truth and Democratic legitimacy the far right? On what
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  Speaker 1: basis do they come up with that term? And there
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  Speaker 1: it is pictures of Pauline Hansen and yes, Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: They don't even pretend, do they. Universities are supposed to inquire,
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  Speaker 1: research and debate, but this forum tackles and ask questions
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  Speaker 1: about legitimacy. Remember the ABC, They moralize over legitimacy.
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  Speaker 4: I used the term earlier on in the broadcast, the
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  Speaker 4: permission structure. If they are able to win their first
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  Speaker 4: Lower House seech, that begins the process of legitimizing them.
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  Speaker 9: It was wrong politically and it was wrong morally. It
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  Speaker 9: gave a signal to liberal voters that it was okay
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  Speaker 9: to vote for one nation.
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  Speaker 1: Just like the ABC types. This university forum is outraged
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  Speaker 1: of who voters support. Have a listen to its blurb.
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  Speaker 1: With the first ever election of a one nation Lower
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  Speaker 1: House MP, it says Australia is joining other advanced democracies
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  Speaker 1: in grappling with the rise of the far right, a
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  Speaker 1: phenomenon that has seen the US democracy crumbling under Trump's
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  Speaker 1: mega regime. In this presentation, we discussed the problems of
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  Speaker 1: the far right through the lens of equality, truth and
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  Speaker 1: democratic legitimacy, and proposed solutions to counter its toxic gravitational pull.
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  Speaker 1: Where would you start with this stuff? Democracy is crumbling
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  Speaker 1: in the US? What because your side lost? And truth
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  Speaker 1: is a question for the so called far right, not
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  Speaker 1: for labor and it's blatant lies and broken promises. The
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  Speaker 1: speakers for this event listed so far are a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of Trump obsessed academics and a research officer. Wait for
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  Speaker 1: it from the Victorian Trades Hall Council. One Nation's South
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  Speaker 1: Australian leader Cory Bernardi says our universities are biased propaganda factories.
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  Speaker 1: He says, in this case, they so hate the result
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  Speaker 1: of democracy, that they're having a forum on how to
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  Speaker 1: thwart the voice of the people, and surprise, surprise, the
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  Speaker 1: answer to their problems is found on the left in
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  Speaker 1: the trade union movement. Yeah, the unions, no one would
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  Speaker 1: tackle their views on university campuses. When will the left
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  Speaker 1: wing critics realize that stuff like this is just wind
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  Speaker 1: beneath one nation's wings. While the Royal Commission into Anti
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  Speaker 1: Semitism and the alleged Islamist terror massacre at Bondi last
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  Speaker 1: December continues with public hearings in Sydney today, the Victorian
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  Speaker 1: Labor Party disgraced itself on related issues in Melbourne over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. Not only did the ALP convention condemn Israel
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  Speaker 1: over the war in Gaza, its war of self defense
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  Speaker 1: and survival, the ALP convention even invoked the absurd charge
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  Speaker 1: of apartheid against Israel, and even more grotesquely, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: believe this, it called for the release of a Palestinian terrorist,
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  Speaker 1: Marwan Barghuti. But the Victorian ALP also voted down a
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  Speaker 1: motion that would have condemned Iran over persistent human rights abusiness,
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  Speaker 1: suppression of descent and executions of those who disagree with
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  Speaker 1: the Islamist extremist regime. Can you believe that a so
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  Speaker 1: called progressive party deliberately condemning the only effective, pluralistic liberal
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  Speaker 1: democracy operating under the rule of law in the Middle East, Israel,
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  Speaker 1: and refusing to condemn an Islamist extremist regime that oppresses
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  Speaker 1: its women and murders its own people. If they dare
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  Speaker 1: to dissent Iran, Well, it gets worse because our own
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  Speaker 1: publicly funded broadcast of the ABC gave us a report
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  Speaker 1: from inside Iran last night.
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  Speaker 10: We have been in Tehran for the last four days
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  Speaker 10: and we've been speaking to Iranians about what they think
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  Speaker 10: about this war, and the overwhelming.
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  Speaker 11: Message is one of defiance. Almost three months into this war,
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  Speaker 11: the ABC has been allowed into the country by the
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  Speaker 11: Iranian government, but only for a few days and only
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  Speaker 11: if we follow their rules.
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  Speaker 1: Now, reporting from Iran is an understandable, even admirable aspiration
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  Speaker 1: given current events, but doing so at the beck and
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  Speaker 1: call of the regime that must have been a tough
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  Speaker 1: decision for the ABC hierarchy, and on the basis of
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  Speaker 1: what we saw last night, I think it was the
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  Speaker 1: wrong one. We saw anti American propaganda posters fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: They're always visible in Tarran. I saw them there myself
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  Speaker 1: twenty years ago. But we also saw a rally in
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  Speaker 1: support of the regime, and there was no way to
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  Speaker 1: ascertain how authentic this rally was or what the true
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  Speaker 1: beliefs of its participants were. All we saw on the
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  Speaker 1: ABC last night was an Iranian population defiant against America
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  Speaker 1: and supporting the Islamist extremists who run their country.
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  Speaker 11: But Iranians who we were able to speak to say
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  Speaker 11: they're backing their government.
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  Speaker 8: Their president is a psychopath, and that's normal for Americans.
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  Speaker 8: But we're powerful through our military and our people. Nowhere
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  Speaker 8: else in the world will you see people who are
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  Speaker 8: being attacked for eighty one days and they are still standing.
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  Speaker 1: That is power.
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  Speaker 11: To its people. Iran is showing America as politically and
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  Speaker 11: morally bankrupt.
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  Speaker 1: What else would Iranians say to these Western reporters if
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  Speaker 1: they criticized their Asian they could be executed. This ABC
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  Speaker 1: report is Iranian propaganda, pure and simple, merely amplified by
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  Speaker 1: our public broadcaster, without question, without skepticism, without context. I
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  Speaker 1: kept waiting for a reality check, but we never got it.
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  Speaker 11: Even if peace talks managed to end this conflict, a
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  Speaker 11: new generation is already anticipating the next one. Karishmavya's ABC
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  Speaker 11: News Tehran.
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  Speaker 1: Really are we supposed to believe that where are the dissenters?
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  Speaker 1: Have they all been killed? This was problematic stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: asked the ABC whether it stands by the decision to
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  Speaker 1: report from Iran under these conditions of regime control, but
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  Speaker 1: I've not had a response. Sadly, this is your taxes
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  Speaker 1: at work in this case, doing more for the Mullers
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  Speaker 1: in Tehran than for Australian interests. Let's go now to
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  Speaker 1: Canberra and catch up with Sarah Henderson, who's the Shadow
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  Speaker 1: of Communication Minister, joining us live from Parliament House. Sir,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, Sarah first up. This level of
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  Speaker 1: reporting from the ABC, unquestioning propaganda from the Iranian regimement
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  Speaker 1: would soon.
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  Speaker 12: Well.
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  Speaker 13: Chris, good afternoon. Great to join you, and I share
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  Speaker 13: your concerns about the ABC's reporting on these issues. I
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  Speaker 13: did not see the report, so I can't comment comprehensively
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  Speaker 13: in relation to the manner in which it covered that story.
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  Speaker 13: But this is why I have called for the Royal
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  Speaker 13: Commission to investigate our public broadcasters and our cultural organizations
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  Speaker 13: with a distinct, dedicated block of hearings because we're seeing
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  Speaker 13: systemic issues. A lot of anti Israel sentiment is running
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  Speaker 13: through these cultural organizations, including the public broadcasters, and that's
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  Speaker 13: why Mikalia Cash, Angie Bell and myself had called on
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  Speaker 13: the Royal Commission to examine in a great deal of
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  Speaker 13: detail the mini issues with our cultural Organizations'll.
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  Speaker 1: Come back to that. Just on that report of it,
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  Speaker 1: there was no mention of dissenters and executions in it,
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  Speaker 1: and we understand the complexities of reporting from Iran. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: they could have added information after the report was ed
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  Speaker 1: for because the reporter there will be under all sorts
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  Speaker 1: of obligations to Iran. Maybe she could have filed the
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  Speaker 1: report with a more skeptical and critical aspect when she
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  Speaker 1: left Iran. Or maybe they just shouldn't have gone. We'll
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  Speaker 1: pursue these things with the ABC. But getting back to
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  Speaker 1: the Royal Commission in the wake of Bondai, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is crucial, right because we've all seen around the
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  Speaker 1: country how the anti Semitism and Islamist extremism has flared
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  Speaker 1: over the country for more than two years. And the
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  Speaker 1: critical question here, as I've examined in detail on this
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  Speaker 1: program and in the Australian newspaper. Where is the biased
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  Speaker 1: reporting of the ABC that continually demonizes Israel, accuses it
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  Speaker 1: of atrocities in Gaza, and then sometimes come back and
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  Speaker 1: correct these things afterwards. This must elevate the the animosity
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  Speaker 1: and concerns in Australia surely.
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  Speaker 13: Well, Chris, that is right, and I think the ABC
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  Speaker 13: has been a far bigger offender in that respect than SBS.
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  Speaker 13: But we have seen some very concerning reports. For instance,
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  Speaker 13: the bombing of the hospital in Gaza. The ABC initially
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  Speaker 13: reported that that was committed by Israel, five hundred people
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  Speaker 13: were killed, and then of course it was using Hummas
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  Speaker 13: our Health Ministry sources. And when we found out that
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  Speaker 13: report was wrong it was actually Hummas which bombed the
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  Speaker 13: car park next to the hospital. The ABC did not
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  Speaker 13: do nearly enough to correct that report. And we've seen
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  Speaker 13: so many examples like that. Look at the ABC reporters
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  Speaker 13: and staff who boycotted the Adelaide festival in support of
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  Speaker 13: Randa abdel Fatta, who has implicitly endorsed the Hummas attack
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  Speaker 13: on the seventh of October.
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  Speaker 14: So that is why I think.
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  Speaker 13: There is a real case for systemic investigation into these matters.
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  Speaker 13: But the arts bodies I think are even worse. We've
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  Speaker 13: seen shocking examples where no and anti semites are being
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  Speaker 13: funded by arts bodies such as Creative Australia. The government
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  Speaker 13: has turned a blind eye to this. The CEO Adrian
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  Speaker 13: Collette has been a disgrace. He would not even denounce
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  Speaker 13: a writer who basically said we don't mourn fascists after
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  Speaker 13: the Bondi terrorist attack.
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  Speaker 8: Disgraceful stuff.
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  Speaker 13: And so these organizations need a huge spotlight placed on them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, the ABC is out of control. This is
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  Speaker 1: such a problem. Now it's not about me, but because
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  Speaker 1: I've put these issues into the public arena and examined
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  Speaker 1: them with detailed factual submissions that have gone to the
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  Speaker 1: Royal Commission. Kim Williams, the.
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  Speaker 15: Chair of the ABC, instead of turning his spotlight critically
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  Speaker 15: on ABC at a time Satorial Standards attacks me for
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  Speaker 15: apparently daring to criticize the ABC.
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  Speaker 1: The only way to examine this properly is in the
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  Speaker 1: Royal Commission. What are you doing to make sure the
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  Speaker 1: Royal Commissioner looks at this media environment.
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  Speaker 13: Well, we've made representations to the Royal commission to examine
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  Speaker 13: our cultural organizations in detail. I think that, as I say,
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  Speaker 13: they need a dedicated block of hearings. They are going
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  Speaker 13: to examine the universities and also anti semitism online on
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  Speaker 13: social media, but there needs to be a dedicated block
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  Speaker 13: of hearings. I was quite shocked that the chair of
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  Speaker 13: the ABC wrote that particular column. He should be focused
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  Speaker 13: on the board's responsibility, which is to ensure the ABC
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  Speaker 13: is reporting impartially and accurately. That is a statutory responsibility
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  Speaker 13: of the ABC. It is not a matter for him
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  Speaker 13: to be engaging in this sort of debate. He should
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  Speaker 13: be looking at what the ABC and its journalists are doing.
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  Speaker 13: And he also made some pretty appalling comments about the
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  Speaker 13: Israeli Prime Minister which were completely out of line. He
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  Speaker 13: then tried to walk those back. But Kim Williams cannot
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  Speaker 13: be an activist. He's the chair of the ABC. He's
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  Speaker 13: got very important statutory responsibilities and he is compelled to
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  Speaker 13: undertake those responsibilities with a great deal of care on
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  Speaker 13: behalf of Australian taxpayers.
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  Speaker 1: I should point out for our viewers, of course, as
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  Speaker 1: I have done before, but both you and I are
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  Speaker 1: former ABC journalists. You for a much longer period than I,
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  Speaker 1: but we both have experience inside the beast, so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: Just before I let you go, I want to get
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this idea of the Tials actually formalizing
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  Speaker 1: their grouping into a political party.
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  Speaker 13: Well, Chris, Finally, perhaps they are telling Australians the truth
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  Speaker 13: because they have effectively been operating as a party. They've
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  Speaker 13: been lying to Australians about that. But as we know,
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  Speaker 13: the only way to get rid of this terrible, terrible
• 22:03
  Speaker 13: government is to vote Liberal National at the next election.
• 22:07
  Speaker 13: A vote for ATL for an independent is a vote
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: straight to Labor and that is very, very bad for
• 22:13
  Speaker 13: our country.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Sarah, I appreciate it. Sarah Henderson,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the Communications Shadow Minister, joining us live from Canberra. I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: want to go now to the sad news that broke
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: late today. That is the death of Neil Danaher, AFL player,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: AFL coach and former Australian of the Year. Danaher has
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: battled motor neur own disease for thirteen years, but he
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: turned his misfortune into a national fundraising juggernaut to fight
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: MND through research and support. One of my favorite moments
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: was when Danaher could still speak, and he was giving
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: an inspirational talk to the Melbourne Demons about seven years ago,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: using the hook of what he would wish for his
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: grandson Cooper, have a listen.
• 22:59
  Speaker 16: Live difficult love with.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I've gone with?
• 23:07
  Speaker 16: Were you verable?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And you're with very game?
• 23:13
  Speaker 17: Conduct yourself in the right man? Number of things? Yet
• 23:17
  Speaker 17: uh be God in love? And it did when and how.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Often I found him such an inspirational figure. Let's go
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to sports writer and broadcaster Mark Robinson. Robo, thanks for
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: joining us, mate, you must have known Neil Danaher will
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: share your thoughts with us.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: First of all, thanks for putting him on this segment
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: on and respect to Neil.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew him.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: I was covered football for a long long time. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: breake for residence. I saw Neil the player, and I'll
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: tell you what. He got buckled by the injuries. And
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: he wasn't the great player. It wasn't the greatest player
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: I saw. And he coached and he was a fire
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: brand as a coach before he came the Reverend in
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: twenty fourteen. But he wasn't. He wasn't the greatest coach.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: But I think footage been going for one hundred and
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: sixty years, Chris, and I don't think there's been a
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: more inspiring figure or an AFL figure in all those years.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: Not only did the football world embrace him when he
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: got diagnosed at fifty two, fifty bloody two mate, and
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: then Jet We just spoke about Joe ra last week.
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: Ye body down fifty two mate, and he's he galvanized
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: not just the footy community, he galvanized the Australian's sporting community.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: Some people, when they get a diagnosis is really bad,
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: and I'm talking broadly here, mate, they go into their shell,
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: they stay at home. Neil.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: He didn't do that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: He brought his his fight to the public and to
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: the people and he must be so proud of the
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: rally of the country to get behind him, as much
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: as we were all proud of, you know, the fortitude
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: of this black hair. He was a remarkable, remarkable man.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: You couldn't have said it better, Robbo. You know, I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: think so many of us hit by this disease could
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: have just gone off and disappeared and faded away, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: no one would condemn you for doing that. It's a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: horrible disease. In fact, I had a made a picture
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: who got this disease? After Neil Danaher started his campaign.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Sadly he passed away much more quickly, but he met
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Neil and he joined in the campaign too, and it
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: gave real purpose to the last years of his life
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and a lot of his footy mates and family and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: friends got to enjoin in that, which was brilliant. So
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's so important that the fact that Neil
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Danaher chose to do something with this. And let's go
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: back to that speech in the Melbourne demon change rooms
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to hear him speaking about that very choice that he made.
• 26:00
  Speaker 17: When love gets difficult, I think it's the time mark.
• 26:04
  Speaker 16: There's no everything. There's always overturn. I've died know whether
• 26:11
  Speaker 16: the days that will kill me? And no time and
• 26:18
  Speaker 16: no here, no half time today, where's the opportunity?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: There's always overturn my overturn. There was the vite amend.
• 26:35
  Speaker 17: And though I have made the var and the allowed
• 26:39
  Speaker 17: me the vine burpot, then what's happened to me?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Just incredible Robbo that even turned this death sentence into
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: an opportunity and he's raised countless millions of dollars in
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: doing some.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: Hundred That's what he's done. Always lucky and it's not
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: about me, but I was lucky enough to be chosen
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: to be the first brief slide at the MCG. And
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: you know, we all have memorable days in our life.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: We all do, and that I'm not just saying this
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: today because I've said it many many times. It was
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: one of the more memorable days in my life. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: every year after it. When I was on AFL three sixty, Neil.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Would come on.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: And I asked him once, what's it like to know
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: that you're dying?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I do you know what? The response I was going to.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: Get, it was just a question, and he just gave
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: this again, this inspiring message about fighting on. And that's
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: why I think most people in Australia who saw or
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: able to listen to Neil, you've got to take that
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: message on. We all get confronted with hurdles.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: You either stop or you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Crash room or jump over him. And Neil crashed through
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: hurdle after hurdle after hurdle, and I think he's messaging
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: and that the vision you just show.
• 28:06
  Speaker 18: That's going to last, not forever, we don't know, but
• 28:08
  Speaker 18: it's going to last eternity for the people who were
• 28:12
  Speaker 18: still alive to know that this man did so much
• 28:15
  Speaker 18: for people who were facing a death sentence.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us Robo, sharing your passion for the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: man and his life. I really appreciate it. Under these circumstances,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Mark Robinson, They're live from Victoria and that Big Freeze
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: game is coming up in a couple of weeks in Melbourne.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: You can get the fight M and D Beanies, the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Big Freeze Beanies. You can get out there and support
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the legacy that this great man has left behind. He
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: was a New South Welshman by the way, the Dana
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: her brothers, four of them all played down there in Essendon.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: One ended up at the City Swans as well, but
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the New South Wales just north of the border. Great
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: figures in OSSI Rules. Now after the break, I have
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: more for you on the end of Israel bias at
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the ABC and the impact of that, especially also through
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the Labor Party's Victorian Convention denouncing Israel. On the weekend
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I spoke at the top of the program about antie
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Israel bias at the ABC now pro Iran propaganda too,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and also the Labor Party's Victorian Conference denouncing Israel, calling
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: for the release of a Palestinian terrorist and failing to
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: condemn human rights abuses by Iran. I'm joined now by
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Australian Iranian activists Tina Kadristami and Labor former Federal Labor
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Front benure that is Michael Danby joining us from Melbourne.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Let me start with you, Tina. I showed people some
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: of the ABC report on their news last night out
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: of Iran, which essentially just told us that all the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: people in Iran support their government and denounce America and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: even if there's peace now, they'll be ready to fight again.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: What did you think watching that report?
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: It was shocking. It's absolutely disgraceful. But it's a real
• 30:04
  Speaker 12: spit in the face of so many Iranians within the
• 30:07
  Speaker 12: country at the moment, who are telling us day in
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: day out that they're struggling. They don't know how to survive,
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: they don't know what to expect, they don't know which
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: news to follow whenever they do get the two minutes
• 30:19
  Speaker 12: out of their day of internet access that some of
• 30:21
  Speaker 12: them can afford. So it's those people that I'm concerned
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: about when I see stories like this come up from
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: the ABC.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Is there any chance, Is there any chance in hell,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that that view portrayed by the ABC could be true,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that everybody in Iran is united behind the Islamist regime.
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: If that was the case, we wouldn't be in this
• 30:42
  Speaker 12: situation where so many within the diaspora have had to
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: flee over the last four decades. Exactly, we wouldn't be
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: here sitting here talking.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: With you to yeah spot on, Michael, I can see
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you nodding in the background. You've, of course kept an
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: eagle eye on the ABC's coverage of issues in the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Middle East. Were you surprised by this report out of Iran?
• 31:02
  Speaker 19: The ABC in that program are dupes I apologize to
• 31:06
  Speaker 19: team that the Australian people don't have such contempt for
• 31:10
  Speaker 19: Iranians as the ABC do in doing that, how could
• 31:14
  Speaker 19: they broadcast Chris a comment that all Americans are psychopaths.
• 31:20
  Speaker 19: I mean, this is just crude, ugly primitive propaganda and
• 31:27
  Speaker 19: it doesn't reflect the views of the Australian people. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 19: nearly every international commentator left or right agree that eighty
• 31:35
  Speaker 19: percent of Iranians want that regime out.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Now, while I'm with you, Michael and staying on the ABC,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I want to get onto the ALP conference in a moment.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: But you'll be aware of what I've written about submissions
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: going to the Royal Commission detailing in great detail ABC
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: bias against Israel, and now some Liberal front benchers formally
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: asking the Royal Commission to examine this. What's your view
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: on what the Royal Commission should do about that issue.
• 32:03
  Speaker 19: Well, unless the Royal Commission focuses on the zeitgeist that
• 32:07
  Speaker 19: led to Bond II, the arts organizations, the ABC, the universities,
• 32:14
  Speaker 19: we won't get any answer to the prejudice and the
• 32:18
  Speaker 19: terrorism that happened. So congratulations to you. Your column on
• 32:22
  Speaker 19: the Weekend was outstanding. The detail that you drew out
• 32:26
  Speaker 19: of a couple of the submissions. Everyone should go back
• 32:29
  Speaker 19: and read Chris Kenny in the Weekend Australian.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Well, it was essentially a cut and paste of the submission,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: So congratulations to those people who did all that work.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the ALP conference. This is your party, Michael,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: your beloved Labor Party, a progressive party. All it could
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: do was condemn Israel, accuse it of apartheid, call for
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the release of a convicted Palestinian terrorist, and Shaw opposed
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the war against Iran, but actually reject any attempt to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: condemned the Iranian regime.
• 33:02
  Speaker 19: Again, I apologize to Tina on air. How could you
• 33:06
  Speaker 19: put up a resolution even disagreeing with the Americans on Iran,
• 33:11
  Speaker 19: but failed to mention the forty thousand innocent Iranian people
• 33:15
  Speaker 19: who are butchered in the streets of Tehran just in January.
• 33:18
  Speaker 19: It's completely unnecessary to exclude it. It's not the party
• 33:23
  Speaker 19: of Bob Hawk or Bill Landu that I joined, Chris,
• 33:27
  Speaker 19: It's gone a long way to the socialist left since then.
• 33:30
  Speaker 19: One of those people that Mustafa Baguti killed was a
• 33:34
  Speaker 19: Greek Orthodox priest in Jerusalem. What is the Labor Party
• 33:39
  Speaker 19: doing applauding the murderers of Greek Orthodox priests?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: The world's gone mad, Tina. This must have been very
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: distressing for you. This is a party of government in
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: both Victoria and federally refusing to condemn the illness regime
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in Iran.
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: Unnecessary is the correct word. I think Michael mentioned. We
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: need to be asking ourselves how does the regimes documented
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: violations against human rights in former Australian politics, because right
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: now we're not seeing much of a transparency though we
• 34:10
  Speaker 12: have so many of our activists constantly asking for more
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: from our government. We want them to understand how hurtful
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: it is when there is no clarity in their position
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: on Iran, and we're seeing that play out over the
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: last few days as well. A friend of mine, nos Hosseini,
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: she was out there advocating for the party to be
• 34:31
  Speaker 12: condemning the regime while it's condemning everyone else. However, they
• 34:35
  Speaker 12: simply refuse to and we don't understand why.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Extraordinary. I don't know how they live with themselves as
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: human beings, because they must know these facts are not contestant.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: They must know what's going on. I want to point
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: out for the sake of our viewers, Tina, you're not
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: some right wing activists. You're a former Greens counselor no
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: longer with the Greens because of these issues. But you
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: must despair that leftist political movements like the Labor Party
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the Greens don't seem to care a fig about your people.
• 35:04
  Speaker 12: It is upsetting. I'm seeing the same patterns with the
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: Greens replicate itself now with the Labor Party. Unfortunately, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 12: I don't want to generalize, this doesn't speak for the
• 35:14
  Speaker 12: whole party, but what we've seen over the last week
• 35:16
  Speaker 12: with Victoria. I don't think the left in the West
• 35:21
  Speaker 12: understand that the definition of left in countries like Iran
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: is completely different to us. For them, being left or
• 35:29
  Speaker 12: progressive is about survival. It's not about a few simple
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: rights that we are too privileged for over here in Australia.
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: So when you see Iranians advocating for Iran, they are
• 35:42
  Speaker 12: requesting what you would consider to be left for Iran
• 35:47
  Speaker 12: from the world, and yet we're always put in this
• 35:50
  Speaker 12: villainized category that's far rights and ignored and outlived. Experience
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: is often pushed aside for what the left in the.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: West may and there's so many people making these cases
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: claim to be human rights activists. It's extraordinary. Thanks so
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: much for sharing a perspective. I appreciate it, Tina and Michael,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. We're going to get to a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: break now and after that we're going to cross to
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the UK where we're going to check in on the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Clarkson's Farm star Caleb Cooper, some politics as well, but
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: we're going to check in on Caleb Cooper who's been
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: down under. There's a fascinating and important by election being
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: held in the UK next month with Greater Manchester Mayor
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Andy Burnham looking to win Ashton in Makerfield, and there's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: plenty of speculation he'll make a move on Keirths Starmer's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: job as Prime Minister if he can win that seat.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: As Sophie Ellsworth found out, he's got some tough competition,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: with plenty of support among locals for Nigel Faraja's Reform Party.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Have a look this government. We have non destroyed the military.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I was a police of destroyed the police.
• 37:01
  Speaker 17: I wouldn't vote for labor in the last birch on earth.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So what are you going to do in the by election? Reform?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I probably bought for reform. Bring tuxes done.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I believe this is my election, is the big, cold,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the biggest may election since the Second World War.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I would have vote for revolve. Oh, high stakes stuff there.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Sophie Illsworth joins us from Cheltenham in Gloucestershire. Sophie, look,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: we've done so many crosses to you in those cold,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: dark mornings. Now summer's almost upon you. It look splendid there.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Tell us about this by election and how worried Kirs
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Starma must be about it, Or maybe he's hoping for
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a Reform win.
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: It is splendid Chris. It's going to be in the
• 37:41
  Speaker 14: thirties today, so the Brits are really struggling here with
• 37:45
  Speaker 14: the heat. Yes, I was in the electorate of make
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: a Field, just within the Greater Manchester area last week
• 37:52
  Speaker 14: speaking to locals about this by election. Chris, it is
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: fascinating to get down to these electorates and be on
• 37:59
  Speaker 14: the ground and ask punters what they think. There is
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: definitely a portion of voters that are very angry with
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: the Labor government and said, as we heard there, they
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: will be voting Reform, but there are others who are
• 38:12
  Speaker 14: saying Labor all the way and they'll be backing in
• 38:15
  Speaker 14: the Greater Manchester mayor now, remembering in the local elections
• 38:19
  Speaker 14: just a few weeks ago, Reform UK won every single
• 38:23
  Speaker 14: ward within that electorate of Makeerfield, Chris, this is such
• 38:28
  Speaker 14: a tight race. It's very hard to predict what will happen.
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: But so much is writing on this because if Andy Burnham,
• 38:34
  Speaker 14: the mayor, does win, it's predicted he will mount a
• 38:37
  Speaker 14: leadership challenge and successfully topples Keir Starmer.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Doesn't Sir Keith Stamos sort of lose either way though,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: because yeah, if if Burnham gets in and he's facing
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a challenger, but if Burnham can't even win that seat
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and Reform take it, it kind of just confirms to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: everyone how stuffed the leadership is, how stuffed the party
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: is under his leadership.
• 39:00
  Speaker 14: Well, Chris, to put it frankly, it is pretty stuffed
• 39:03
  Speaker 14: and Labor are in a lot of trouble. But it
• 39:06
  Speaker 14: is really interesting because the Keres Starmer has said he's
• 39:10
  Speaker 14: going to go up to make a field and help
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: Andy Burnham campaign. Now critics are saying he's only doing
• 39:18
  Speaker 14: that to loo or make it difficult for Andy Burnham.
• 39:24
  Speaker 14: Kers Starmer is so unpopular at the moment that having
• 39:28
  Speaker 14: him in the electorate surely won't win votes, and he
• 39:30
  Speaker 14: doesn't want Andy Burnham in because he's about to nab
• 39:33
  Speaker 14: his job. But if Nigel Farage and Reform win this, Chris,
• 39:37
  Speaker 14: this is massive for them. This shows that Nigel Farage
• 39:41
  Speaker 14: could be charging towards ten Downing Streets.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff. Let's go to something a little bit more lighthearted.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: It's a great yarn that you've been covering as well,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: where anyone who's seen the terrific series Clarkson farm has
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: got I love caleber Cooper, the farm assistant. He's been
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: out in Australia filming a series. A little bit of
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: what he's had to say to Sophie Australia.
• 40:03
  Speaker 20: Putting my lines, I'm used to harvest in a four
• 40:06
  Speaker 20: acre field. I get over there by harvested an eighty
• 40:09
  Speaker 20: thousand acre fields and until you sit there and realize
• 40:13
  Speaker 20: that it is unbelievable.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's such an endearing character. Yeah, the farms are
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit bigger here, Sophie. Absolutely.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 40:24
  Speaker 14: I was out in Warwickshire yesterday speaking to Caleb Cooper,
• 40:28
  Speaker 14: the star of the program, alongside Jeremy Clarkson, and he
• 40:32
  Speaker 14: said he's absolutely loved Australia. He's filmed this new series,
• 40:36
  Speaker 14: his first solo series of his time working in Australia
• 40:40
  Speaker 14: over summer. He was joking to the crowd, Chris, he
• 40:43
  Speaker 14: goes bloody hell. It took twenty two hours.
• 40:46
  Speaker 15: To get there.
• 40:47
  Speaker 14: He didn't realize how big the world is, but he
• 40:50
  Speaker 14: said he spent some of his time as a cowboy.
• 40:52
  Speaker 14: He also mentioned that he caught a crocodile while he
• 40:55
  Speaker 14: was there. He's very fond of Australians, but Australia. But
• 40:59
  Speaker 14: he had a clear message for Australian farmers facing challenges
• 41:03
  Speaker 14: to hang in there like the British farmers who are
• 41:06
  Speaker 14: up against government, up against red tape. He spoke very
• 41:09
  Speaker 14: fondly of his time down under, and Chris, I must
• 41:12
  Speaker 14: say what you see Caleb in the flesh. He is
• 41:16
  Speaker 14: very much you know, a very genuine down to earth
• 41:20
  Speaker 14: character and it was really nice to meet him in Paerson.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Carl to wait to see the show. I don't even
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: know where it's airing, whether I'm promoting competitors or what,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: but it would be great stuff. Just very quickly. No
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: word from the police on the Andrew Wins the Mount Batton.
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  Speaker 1: He's no charges and everyone's waiting to see what will happen.
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  Speaker 14: No charges, Chris Thames Valley police say they are investigating
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  Speaker 14: him in relation to allegations that could be relating to
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  Speaker 14: sexual misconduct. Now must stress he's always denied any wrongdoing, Chris,
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  Speaker 14: this case is not going away. So watch this face.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Sophie, appreciate it. Sophie's with all over
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  Speaker 1: every thing in the UK for us has ever got
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: to get to a break on the other side Jemma
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and Carolina waiting. One of the things I want to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: ask them about is Bob Katat calling for a shark
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: cull well wa Perth the Capital. It's a two team
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: town tonight. It's a two panelist town with Jemma Chinini
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and Caroline dur also both joining us from Berth. Good
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to speak to you. Both are first up, so good.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I just want to get your thoughts on this budget
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: backlashes two weeks in now Albow and charmers and a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: bunch of these other ministers are trying to blame the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: media and their political enemies for all this negativity and lies.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Do they have a cage, Gemma? Now?
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Of course they don't have a gaze. And they're wedding
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the bed because they've got nowhere to run, because they've
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: got nowhere to run, because they don't actually have any
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: real life experience on which to base these arguments. And
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: if you look at the myriad of interviews that have
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: been done with both the Prime Minister and the Treasurer
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: in the last two weeks, they are stumbling and fumbling
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: and ina admitting to the fundamental flaws of this terrible
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: policy document. They're inadvertently admitting the fact that they are
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: handing trillions of dollars of debt to future generations while
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: hoiking the policy ladder up behind them the very self
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: same policies that they use to create their wealth, and
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: then turning around and saying then turning around and gaslighting
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: this generation and saying that's for your own good. I've
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: never been more ashamed of these small thinking, inactive, grifting,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: lazy public servants.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Jimmy, your column on the weekend in The Australian was
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: brilliant on this, the personal risk and trauma of launching
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: a business and employing people and making a go of it,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and Carolina. It just reminds me of what the essence
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: of the Liberal Party is. All this internal dialogue about
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: whether they should attack one nation or do this or
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: do that. You go back to Robert Menzies and the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: forgotten people and backing the toilers and the small business people.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: It's so obvious that's where the Liberal Party should be.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: And you've got an opportunity here because got no idea.
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: No idea, and that feeling that every business owner has.
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: Chris at the beginning of each month wondering how the
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: hell you're going to make budget, but somehow, you know,
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: you generally make it happen. And it's a sobering it's
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: a sobering feeling. Anyone who ever has to sign a
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: declaration of solvency knows what that feels like. And Angus
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: was very clear in his budget reply that these things
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: would be overturned. You know, we talked about something like that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: He talked about the indexation of tax brackets. I mean,
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: that is the bluest, bluest liberal liberal policy imaginable. And
• 44:36
  Speaker 10: I think it's important that yes, we look after the
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: people in our country who really need it, the really vulnerable,
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: but everyone else should be given the opportunity to be
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: able to make their own way in the world and
• 44:48
  Speaker 10: do well. And this is a thing about this government
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: and this recent transch of policy that they have announced.
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: It is so it's so greedy, and it's so jealous
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: of people who have worked really, really hard to make
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: something for themselves. And you know, my dad is an example.
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: Chris came to Australia as a five year old, got
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: to go to school when they weren't too busy on
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: the farm, has worked every single day of his life
• 45:14
  Speaker 10: and now He's essentially being told, sorry, you don't get
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: to keep what you've earned because you don't deserve it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: And I think that that there is a really terrible
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: message to send for those people who have worked hard
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: over decades and when someone like Dave Hughes has a
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: crack at the government, and this is a government that
• 45:34
  Speaker 10: is used to being the cultural lovies, right when that
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: part of the meteor arts and comedy sector all of
• 45:42
  Speaker 10: a sudden telling you to pull your head in you know,
• 45:45
  Speaker 10: you're in a bit of trouble. And the glass jaws
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: they're at Parliament House and not enjoying it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I should dip into the day Views stuff the boy
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: from Warning Ball and check that out. But Jemmy, I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: just wanted to give you a quick say on the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Teals and a new party something. This just confirm everything
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we've always said. And maybe they're flirting with the temptation
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  Speaker 1: of being honest about it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Well, flirting with the temptation of honesty. That is delicious
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: and also accurate. Well, I note, and I've just come
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: into the studio, so I note that Monique Ryan at
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: least has said I don't want to be in the
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Teal Party party and I think Kate Cheney is also
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: on I'm wrong said she's not having a bar of
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: the Teal Party party so and may be the shortest
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: lived party since my last birthday. I don't know, hope,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: but look, it does speak to what we've all suspected.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Is indeed a duck. But I will say this, what
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: the Teals do not have that One Nation has is relatability.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: I do not imagine Zalie Steckel is my local federal
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: member and for the record, did not vote for her
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: in a shopping plot twist. But I cannot imagine any
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: of those independents or the Teal Party members relating to
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: everyday Australians who don't live in their same ev driving
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: delusional bubble of privilege. Like try going out to you
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: an hour wet of Sydney and relating to somebody who
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: doesn't go skiing on their overseas holidays every year twice
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: a year. That's a generalization, obviously, But the one thing
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: that they can't make their peace with is the relatability
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: of Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party. There's no doubt could
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Lumpet exactly, no.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Doubt that she's in touch with the mainstream who people are.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I want to go to the shark debates. Another tragic
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: shark attack death in North Queensland on the weekend. Let's
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: hear from Bob Katter, of course a Queensland original, and
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: hear what he's got to say about this attack and
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the response to it. Should be a Powell.
• 47:42
  Speaker 21: The killing of a shark in Queensland is illegal. It
• 47:46
  Speaker 21: would be the only place on Earth with killing of sharks.
• 47:51
  Speaker 21: It's illegal biting Queensland. Our information, official information, is that
• 47:57
  Speaker 21: it is illegal to kill a shark in Queensland. So
• 48:00
  Speaker 21: we'll just keep dying so that they can be their
• 48:04
  Speaker 21: little wiki selves in the big cities.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think Bob will find it's illegal to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: catch protected species of sharks like great whites right around
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the country. And Caroline, this would be a debate that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: resonates in Wa for sure.
• 48:18
  Speaker 10: Well, it is absolutely and we had a fatal shark
• 48:21
  Speaker 10: attack of our own just last week. So it's a
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: conversation that has had at regular intervals here in Way.
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: I guess there's a couple of parts to it. I mean,
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: obviously on Land as well. There are culs occasionally of
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: varying types of animals, some of them a bit more
• 48:40
  Speaker 10: vemin related and others just wild. And you know, we've
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: had the conversation on this show about the Brumbies in
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: New South Wales and there are others, so it's not
• 48:48
  Speaker 10: an unheard of concept. But equally, when we go into
• 48:53
  Speaker 10: their environment we should take all the precautions that are possible.
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: And you never get to take away risk in a
• 48:59
  Speaker 10: scenario like that, so I don't have a particular view.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: One way or the other.
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: Chris, unfortunately, and which is probably a surprise to you.
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: Hold on to your chair, you.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Might fall off.
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: And I think it just depends on the various type
• 49:14
  Speaker 10: of the type of place where it attack Kurd, and
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: whether the car would actually be helpful because as a point,
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: just going shooting wildlife it's not going to help.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: We better leave it there. We are all out of time.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us from the west. There's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: probably just lunchtime there. You can go and get on
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: with your day. I'm only joking. Jam and Caroline. Great
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to talk to you. We are right out of time.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Here's Peter Quedlin