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Movie Review Rewind, Ep. 67: Any Given Sunday (1999) · Nashville Movie Dispatch

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back for another episode of the movie review Rewind
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  Speaker 1: drinking the Doctor K. That's why you don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, doctor K.
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  Speaker 1: You don't do the bubbly when you're about to record
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  Speaker 1: a podcast. It's risky business.
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  Speaker 2: What is there? What is there? What's their Doctor Pepper,
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  Speaker 2: doctor Thunder?
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  Speaker 1: No, Doctor Thunder is the mountain dew? Doctor K is
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  Speaker 1: the Doctor Pepper.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, what's their mellow.
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  Speaker 1: Like mountain dew, doctor Thunder?
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  Speaker 2: That's oh doctor Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Thunder is the mountain Dew and doctor doctor K
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  Speaker 1: is doctor Pepper? Oh yeah, but this is doctor K
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  Speaker 1: and cream soda. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say and well, go ahead with Fisher introduction
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  Speaker 2: because I have a Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's Brandon Say is a board member of the
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  Speaker 1: Music City Film Critics Association member of the Southeastern Film
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  Speaker 1: Mister big Shot, Brandon Vick and of course all of
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  Speaker 1: our work at Nashville Movie Dispatch dot substack dot com. So,
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  Speaker 1: as you were, my.
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  Speaker 2: Dad loves the Coke zero sugar vanilla orange.
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  Speaker 1: No, just it's either just vanilla.
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  Speaker 2: It's either vanilla or vanilla float. I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: I know they have a vanilla Coke zero that is
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  Speaker 1: very apparently where they still make it.
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  Speaker 2: Where he lives, they don't make it as much. So
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  Speaker 2: he actually has the whole family searching Middle Tennessee Kroger
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  Speaker 2: because he's been stashing them. Yeah, because he loves it
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  Speaker 2: so much. And he's like, hey, until then, I'll just
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  Speaker 2: get regular coke and I'll do vanilla and stuff too.
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  Speaker 2: And I raised my hand. I'm like, but you're a diabetic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that defeats the purpose. Just trying to pull
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  Speaker 1: the rug out from under you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he wants me to tell say this or not, but
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  Speaker 2: his doctor told him he probably shouldn't have some of
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  Speaker 2: these things, so maybe he He hasn't mentioned it this year,
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  Speaker 2: big topic in November holiday, and we tried, we really
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  Speaker 2: tried to find him some so that way he could
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  Speaker 2: have it. But he is an old school where like
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  Speaker 2: my dad remembers going to a diner and they had
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  Speaker 2: like the legit vanilla coke like legit.
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  Speaker 1: And waffle House still does it.
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  Speaker 2: He has always loved it. I am not a fan
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  Speaker 2: he had. I have tried from waffle House to the
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  Speaker 2: the can stuff and I can't. I can't get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Now a regular coat zero, yeah done, but I can't
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  Speaker 2: get into it.
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  Speaker 1: I love vanilla, I love uh.
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  Speaker 2: Like. I don't like the Doctor Pepper cream cold like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it just doesn't taste the same.
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  Speaker 1: I like the Doctor Pepper cream soda, Okay, I like
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  Speaker 1: regular cream soapa.
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  Speaker 2: It must be because they're they're always there. And now
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  Speaker 2: there's like a strawberry cream.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't. I haven't gone that far. I did
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  Speaker 1: try the BlackBerry Doctor Pepper back in the summer time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a little too little, too out there for me.
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  Speaker 2: I tried the seven up anchovy one and it was
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  Speaker 2: in my tummy hurt.
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  Speaker 1: They do have the Tropical sprite these days. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: And and I will say, and I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to pick on anybody, but the cherry
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  Speaker 2: PEPSI zero.
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  Speaker 1: Sugar yeah, not that great really.
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  Speaker 2: But the Pepsi zero sugar, which is at every Regal cinema, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I like, but I can't get into the I used
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  Speaker 2: to love cherry pepsi, but that zero how okay? Now
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  Speaker 2: I hit the ball is It's not like it's in
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  Speaker 2: a weird way. And like my father in law one
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  Speaker 2: of them, he loves it and he let me try it,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you just couldn't do no. Take that
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  Speaker 2: whole case back home, buddy, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Want to throw it. Throw it out right now. When
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  Speaker 1: did Regal switch over from Coca Cola to Pepsi?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I know, because.
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  Speaker 1: That's as it is.
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  Speaker 2: And the one thing I really love about AMC is
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  Speaker 2: that they have not only do they have coke products,
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  Speaker 2: but they have where like you can get coke zero,
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  Speaker 2: like you can get coke sprite zero grape. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: I only used to get kind of now the cherry.
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  Speaker 2: Now the cherry coke zero sugar is delicious.
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  Speaker 1: I will get peach sprite at those things.
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  Speaker 2: I have never eate. I don't know if I've ever
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  Speaker 2: even laid my eyes on that.
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  Speaker 1: Very very good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say it's at least a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years, and honestly, for people that love refreshments, it
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a bummer that they made a deal
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  Speaker 2: with Pepsi because I'm first of all, Pepsi I don't
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  Speaker 2: like as much as Coke. I'm thankful that I like
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  Speaker 2: Pepsi zero sugar and it's it's enough to have with
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  Speaker 2: my popcorn. But I give anything just for Coke to
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  Speaker 2: just to take over everything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. And I don't know if AMC
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  Speaker 2: does it, but Monday through Thursday from three to six,
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  Speaker 2: Regal has Happy Hour and I have gotten some beers
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  Speaker 2: for three dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, that ain't bad. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Providence in Mountain Juliet does not do it, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Think they barely have air conditioning correct.
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  Speaker 2: And they barely have seats that you can sit your
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  Speaker 2: ass in Hendersonville does not have anything. But Opry Mills does.
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  Speaker 2: Got a bar in Hollywood twenty seven does? Anybody in
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  Speaker 2: Nashville knows where these cinemas are. But it's a nice
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  Speaker 2: little Michelob. I don't have a nice michelobultra or have
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  Speaker 2: a blue Moon five bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I get a Voodoo Ranger. They've got pretty good,
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  Speaker 1: pretty good IPA selection there. I appreciate you all for
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  Speaker 1: tuning in for this episode of the Soda Review.
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  Speaker 2: This is drinking with uh.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to talk about any given Sunday Oliver
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  Speaker 1: Stone flows Oh yeah, from nineteen ninety nine football flick
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  Speaker 1: sports drama. I guess you you could call it Al Pacino,
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  Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz, Jamie Fox, James Woods. How could we?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dennis Quaid.
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  Speaker 1: A young Aaron Eckhart caught me off guard in this
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  Speaker 1: one as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, quite the case. Wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear Bill Bellamy.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Bellamy, ll cool j LT isn't Lawrence Taylor is
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  Speaker 1: in this. Jim Brown is in this.
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  Speaker 2: Which I love him too. I do too, Yeah, him
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  Speaker 2: and j T who LT together?
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I hold on.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go ahead, start start us all.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say I have seen this movie before.
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  Speaker 2: I love to reference uh Willie Beamon in his song
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  Speaker 2: It's Willy Beaman.
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  Speaker 1: I keep the ladies screaming, he says, creaming, creaming. Oh my,
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  Speaker 1: at least that's what I heard. I need got it.
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  Speaker 2: We need to.
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  Speaker 1: Get to the bottom of this because unless I'm misheard,
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  Speaker 1: unless I'm misheard because I perked up.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, screaming and creaming are too different, because oh.
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  Speaker 1: When I heard it, I was perked up, like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember that being the song.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't either. Oh, I need to talk Pastor feel.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if we can look this up if it's
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: I said, I'm very curious to what your thoughts would
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  Speaker 2: would be on this, because you also obviously have a
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  Speaker 2: very knowledgeable background on football, especially here locally with the
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Yeah, and so there's no way that most
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  Speaker 2: of this ship depicted is not real in some form
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  Speaker 2: or fashion. Right.
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  Speaker 1: We will we will get to that. We will get
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  Speaker 1: to that. But for now, I do have the Willy
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  Speaker 1: Beamon song. I don't know if I can play it
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  Speaker 1: on this because it'll it's it should be fine. You
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  Speaker 1: might have to take one side of the headphones off
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  Speaker 1: to there we go.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's cream, it's Pastor Field. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so I don't know if you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Whoh my god.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if the I don't know if the uh,
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  Speaker 1: the microphones picked up the song, but we but I can.
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  Speaker 1: It's very cream.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I thought, Oh, I remember Baptist.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad this is what we're starting with, because it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is one of the first things I think of
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  Speaker 1: when I think about this movie. Even though I realized
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  Speaker 1: I realized twenty minutes into this. I'm like, I've never
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  Speaker 1: seen this.
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  Speaker 2: Movie, so that was gonna be My question. Is I
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  Speaker 2: thought you had seen it. It just has been a
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  Speaker 2: very long time.
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  Speaker 1: I thought so too, But I remembered nothing about this
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  Speaker 1: movie except for that song and then Jim Brown's quote
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  Speaker 1: where he says, I don't get strokes, motherfucker. I give
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  Speaker 1: you used to say it all yes, when we were
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  Speaker 1: in high school.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and this explains why. And this is and I
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  Speaker 2: I totally admit I feel like this. This is very strange.
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  Speaker 2: Any given, Sunday was the first DVD I ever bought,
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  Speaker 2: which means I walked into a Walmart or Target with
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  Speaker 2: my parents. Well, I picked out any even Sunday to
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  Speaker 2: take home.
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  Speaker 1: I mean at the time, though, it's nineteen ninety nine
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  Speaker 1: when this comes out, so what should not be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I know, I think it's within ninety eight.
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  Speaker 2: I think so. And I don't think I truly understood.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I know for a fact, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: quite at the time understand who Oliver Stone was and
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  Speaker 2: what he meant.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that's a that's a that's a filmography.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't think this is considered his best.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's certa how Pacino's best. I think
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  Speaker 2: the biggest thing him and Stone did was probably Scarface.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I I was surprised to see how much shit
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  Speaker 1: this movie took. It's like fifty I think, But yes,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's kind of the caliber at these
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  Speaker 1: the filmmaker, especially the filmmaker I don't even put as much.
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  Speaker 2: Pressure on the cast as much as Oliver Stone and
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  Speaker 2: sort of the the direction he takes with a film
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  Speaker 2: like this, because it is as much as he kind
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  Speaker 2: of pushes into the kind of that culture. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he really makes an impact on what the
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  Speaker 2: film overall is is trying to get across. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's kind of what I dealt. What I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of dealing with in this rewatch was okay, but
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  Speaker 2: what like what are we? What are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What are we? What are we trying to get to?
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  Speaker 2: But now this really beam and creaming thing has really
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  Speaker 2: got me, Like I.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like it's a I will say, what's got you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: Like? What I mean? I feel like I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I want to go to church or I just
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  Speaker 2: want to hide in my closet and masturbate. But then
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  Speaker 2: I think Jamie Fox has that sex appeal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in ninety eight or ninety nine. I keep mixing,
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  Speaker 1: mixing it up. Let me, let me verify it. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's ninety it is ninety nine, it is nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine. Yeah, I will say after watching this two
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  Speaker 1: hours and forty two minute runtime too. Yeah, that is
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  Speaker 1: when I watch.
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  Speaker 2: The director's cut, which is which is weirdly a bit shorter,
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  Speaker 2: h which is two hours and like thirty That is
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  Speaker 2: weird something minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I know you don't hear about that too.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen your copy that you gave me. There is
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  Speaker 2: a difference of like two hundred and fifty something minutes
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  Speaker 2: and two hundred and sixty something minutes. But the director's
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  Speaker 2: cut is shorter. And I know for Zack Nider fans,
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  Speaker 2: we just blew some minds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the truth. Yeah, I I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about this because we it's September's episode the
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  Speaker 1: football season is underway. It's festive like we do a
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  Speaker 1: lot of football movies. In September last year we did Rudy,
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  Speaker 1: for example, And we've talked about Friday Night Lights are
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  Speaker 1: Drinking with.
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  Speaker 2: PG version yeah version, we now have advanced to the
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  Speaker 2: rated R version.
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  Speaker 1: I will acknowledge the flaws in this film. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's my favorite football movie now. Oh really, Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why I was so more than Draft Day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I watched Draft Day every year, but that does not
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  Speaker 1: does not mean it's good. Yeah, and fair enough. We'll
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  Speaker 1: probably get into a discussion about this. For me, it
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  Speaker 1: is Friday Night Lights versus Any Given Sunday, And where
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  Speaker 1: I think the two are very distinct is that Friday
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  Speaker 1: Night Lights has the story. It has a heart and
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  Speaker 1: soul that any Given Sunday does not have. Yes, But
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  Speaker 1: what I liked so much about Any Given Sunday is
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  Speaker 1: it it's probably the most realistic football movie that I've watched.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't get down and dirty and gritty.
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  Speaker 1: I jotted it down. I was paying attention. Okay, the
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  Speaker 1: first football scene, you know, we open the movie opens
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  Speaker 1: during a game? Yeah, pretty much. That's twenty three minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty three minutes.
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  Speaker 2: When Cap goes down played by Tennis Quade. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then the second the backup to him goes down, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and Will played by Jamie Foxx.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then did you know he makes the girl screaming?
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  Speaker 1: I do now, I do now, Amen. I've thought it
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  Speaker 1: was screaming for twenty seven years since this movie.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like, should I listen to the whole
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  Speaker 2: song because screaming I feel like is in there, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, but then we go, we have the they
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  Speaker 1: lose the game, and we have this little downtime, but
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  Speaker 1: there's really not all that much time before we're back
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  Speaker 1: on the fucking field again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, And I mean it is, it is, really.
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  Speaker 2: I'm mistaken. I think it's they've lost three and then
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  Speaker 2: that ends up begining fourth in a row and there's
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  Speaker 2: only three games left before the.
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  Speaker 1: Playoffs, and we spend a lot of this movie on
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  Speaker 1: the field in those games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I also felt like the dynamics thematically very accurate, like
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  Speaker 1: the tension between a general manager and a head coach,
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  Speaker 1: and a head coach and a player, and you see
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  Speaker 1: the young up and comer versus the grizzled vet and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the themes that that Stone touches on
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  Speaker 1: in this movie are pretty hit, pretty close to home.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot about well I should say a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but there are definitely elements of race.
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  Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, because sexism.
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  Speaker 2: There is a great scene I think where Jamie Foxx
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  Speaker 2: does his best to go toe to toe with Pacino.
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  Speaker 1: Is it the lunch scene.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, to explain, I like that what you guys rely
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  Speaker 2: on for us and what you are trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: And I really liked it, and and.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite scenes. And the like Pacino's
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  Speaker 1: locker room speech near the end about like living or die,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought it was very good too. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as like that was the one, like we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into this a little bit more, but like the dialogue
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  Speaker 1: and story wise, I don't think any given Sunday is
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a little too big for its breeches.
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  Speaker 1: But that was the one scene that I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like took me out of I was
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  Speaker 1: just in that scene at that moment, you're just kind
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  Speaker 1: of glued to the screen, You're magnetized by her. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's.
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  Speaker 2: Very Charleston shows up and yeah, it's there's that, so
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  Speaker 2: I I feel like there's a there's a great beauty
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  Speaker 2: to that. But then as he's as as Jamie Fox,
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  Speaker 2: as Willie Beeman is trying to present it to coach,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't know about you, but you know, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, did an HBO film about Joe Paterno he
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  Speaker 2: was Joe Paterno.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. I never saw that, which.
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  Speaker 2: Makes me kind of like always think about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But also did Two for the Money, so that's
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  Speaker 1: true some football movies, that's true. Mount Rushmore of al
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  Speaker 1: pacin Over.
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  Speaker 2: I think he also Caught a Ball and Invincible with
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  Speaker 2: Mark Wahlberg if you remember.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I'll take yourr.
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  Speaker 2: No. No, his name was Clarice Stanmingworth. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: from uh from Yale, and but I love I love
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  Speaker 2: those scenes because they're kind of hashing it out and
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  Speaker 2: it is kind of the old versus the new. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: But there's also I think there is a piece of
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  Speaker 2: it that I think Bachino has, like where he's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, you're talented, but you're stupid. But I
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  Speaker 2: also think Beaman has a point on where you rely
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  Speaker 2: on us black men to carry you there.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a very real thing.
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  Speaker 2: The tea still to this absolutely, and I feel like
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  Speaker 2: Charlton Heston is the Jerry Jones. I think he kind
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  Speaker 2: of represents the Jerry Jones of the NFL back then.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I don't quite I don't quite connect where all of
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a sudden Cameron Diaz is in trouble. I don't That
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: seems kind of like what she's even says, what the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: fuck happened? But it is very much of a respect
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: between the coach and the owner. And now things have changed,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: business has changed, and money always influences everything.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And that's where I do feel like so I kind
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of felt some of the letterboxed reviews were kind of crazy,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and some of the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes were a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: little crazy, because I feel like, if you're a football fan,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: this movie checks a lot of boxes. It does feel
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like I saw one review that was like, this feels
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like a two two hour, forty two minutes snort of cocaine,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just a rush, just NonStop, and I can I can
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: get that, but like, if you're not, there were a
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: lot of there were a lot of reviews from people
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that were not football fans that were just kind of like,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this is what is this like but too much? Yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like I and I get it to a certain extent.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: But to me, I was watching this feeling like Oliver
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Stone seems to have a great respect for football and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a deep love of football. Because a lot of this
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: is thematically. You know, you can kind of pick up
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: on a scene if you're familiar with the inner workings
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: of the NFL. Yeah, you can pick up in a
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: scene where you know, Cameron Diaz's character is told like, oh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you're breaking the rules. We need you to come in
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: on a meeting and it's like, yeah, you know the tension. Yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Like you kind of pick up on some of that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: stuff where you don't really need an explanation if you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: don't have that built in well of knowledge. I can
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: see how it comes across as a bit of a mess.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It does seem, and it does seem to come out
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of nowhere, like she's she's butting up with them, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the tables are turned. But
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: there hasn't been too much mention of the ship she's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: involved in. Yeah, and between the beginning and and that
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: comes towards the end, I mean it's towards the I
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: think the last game yeah, when he when she's kind
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: of hosting.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And then I'm I'm just like, you know, if you're
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: not familiar with football, do you even really know what's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: happening between Aaron Eckhart and Al Pacino? Like are you
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: understanding what the offensive coordinator does?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And are also of he's Aaron Rickhart's character is ready,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: he's head coach material. Yeah, and this quote unquote old man.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah to get out of the way. Yeah. So like
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I get I get it. But for me, I never
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: got the impression that Oliver Stone didn't know what he
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: was talking about.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I feel like he kind of dove in, which, by
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the way, a kudos to him because he plays one
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: of the announcers along with Barry Barry Switzer.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Switzer which there's a lot of old football coaches, a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: lot of.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: The opposing coaches and there, yeah, a real deal.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: The coaches for the opponents are all actual and I think.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: It's worth noting that. I feel like, obviously with what
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it wants to tackle, no pun intended, they had to
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: make up names because NFL would not give them, would
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: not give Oliver Stone. So you have Miami's Sharks they
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: have very much. But he played but there's a lot
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of NFL people that are involved in that, and I
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: appreciate that. And I also and I told you this
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: when I first watched it or rewatching it, is that
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the action on the field, the pain, the hurt, the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: playing even when you shouldn't is very much a real.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Guys go through that. Doctors do shady thing.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: LT kind of plays the guy that is sort of like, hey, listen,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: if I can just do this, and even at the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: end where you know he's worth a million dollars, they're
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: willing to do it and it's scary. And that kind
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: of plays into Matthew Modine and James Wood's characters of
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: the doctors. What are you willing to do? What are
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you willing to tell them? Hiding stuff? That stuff is
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: interesting to me because it is a behind the scenes thing,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: just like when e Loo Cole j is like, I
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: want to do this because if I don't get this,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: then I don't get this money. And that's sort of
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: what it kind of comes down to. Winning is winning.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: But these guys are in it because, as we know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: their careers could be within five to ten years and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: it's done. You are done this. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Shit is not that is not the norm, and so
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I really appreciated that kind of stuff and the fact
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that Willie Beeman can make these women creamen is really impressive.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I have to come back to it, but I love that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I love that approach to it because it is and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: as with trading and everything else, it is business. At
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the end of the day. These owners don't give a shit.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: It's about trading.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Which I thought was another thing. I don't know if
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: if you're not a die hard fan, I don't know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: do you pick up on the scene where Cameron Diaz
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: is up in the owner's suite and she's looking around
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and realizing nobody else there is paying attention to the game.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: They're all talking to one another like that in and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: of itself is a nice little touch, and I felt
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: like that was kind of a reflection of the NFL
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: or professional football. I guess I should say in America
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that this movie kind of gives a wink and a
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: nod to now. I also think where the movie suffers
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is in its ambition, because any given Sunday does not
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: just focus on one aspect of it. While to me
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it does kind of feel like a love letter and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: an accurate portrayal of professional football. It's also like, man,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you're trying to touch on everything in this one film,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the aging vet, the rookie up and comer, the young
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: player that sees success early, and hey, coach out, the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: head coach out to pasture a woman in a man's world. Yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: basically the injury stuff, the medical stuff that that this
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: movie says money and just locker room dynamics. Yeah, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: if you're going to I think some of that stuff
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: probably could have been hammered home a little bit more
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: if we didn't spend like thirty minutes on each game.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So while I think the football aspect of it is
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the strength of the film, and I think thematically the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: film does kind of touch on give a little bit
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of a little nugget here and there on this, a
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: little nugget here and there on that if you're not
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: really perceptive enough, it's kind of hard to keep up
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: with all that because the moments of like real dialogue
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and character development and all that kind of feel few
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and far between between all over the craziness. And for instance,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I love the idea of any given Sunday as sort
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: of the rise and fall and rise of Willy Beaman,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: because when we meet Willy Beaman, he's buried on the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: depth chart. He rises to prominence, but then the team
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't respond to him, he's not getting along with his coach.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It kind of feels like, you know, he's taken down
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: a notch. But then he ultimately lands in the spot
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: where the light bulb kind of goes off and he
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: eventually gets to a spot where the team is playing
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: hard for him and he's playing for his team and.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Comes into that too, which I will say I I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I kind of appreciate it, but it does come out
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of the blue and it's certainly not explored further. But
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the wife, yeah, basically telling him he cannot retire or
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: in Holly plays Denis Quades.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: One, which is yeah, and which is is great.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But that's just thrown in there and then it's it's gone.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It's another element of it where it's like, okay, well,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the football lifestyle and can give so much
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and sometimes like you hear about it all the time
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: with like these players coaches that end up divorced, and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's it's hard on the home life.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And we even see that with Willie Beeman and his
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: girlfriend too. Okay, yeah that too. Yeah, I read the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: news so but that kind of goes to what I'm
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: talking about is like, this takes on so many aspects
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of professional football that it's kind of hard to give
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: it all time and still have these killer football sequences.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: And I think the movie does not to be doesn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: need to be longer, but I do think it really
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: is trying to eat more than it than it than
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: it needs to because it is trying to touch on everything.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: The thing is, the attention is not there, and it
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: can't be, especially for a film.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I agree the the the arc of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Willie Beeman, though it kind of it kind of happens
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: very quickly, and when you have stuff like that where
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we get the point he's he's cocky
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and he's young, but then all of a sudden, it's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: like that one speech from Al Pacino and now oh
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: he's on board and everybody's bought in. And that's where
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, that's not that's like, that's something
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in real life that takes time to win that buy in.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And by the last game and they're talking and he's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: a blind piano player.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is very.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just confusing. It takes it takes you out
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: of it really.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this five year long movie. Yeah, it was very.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Uh like I Got a Woman. I mean it's it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: it's crazy, but there's real. But I will say there's real.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I mean there's real progress in what Jamie Fox was
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: trying to do from like Boomerang? Yes, was he in Boomerang?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know that's any Murphy movie. Yeah, what's the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: other Booty Call?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Let's go without Booty Call. But I do. And that's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: where I kind of feel like this was I I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: get the idea of like wanting to paint an accurate
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: picture of the NFL, but it's almost as if it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: there's just too much to really explore. There's too much
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that you can flesh out in two hours and forty
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: two minutes. Yeah, And that's where I think the movie suffers.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: The story suffers from from Any Given Sunday compared to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: another movie like Friday Night Lights, where it's a little
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: more singular focused and there's a little more heart and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: soul in it. But maybe it's not. It doesn't. The
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: thing about Any Given Sunday is like it feels like
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you feel the tension of the small home. Yeah. Yeah, well,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and I think.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: There's legit legitimacy in it, but we don't have enough
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: time to explore everything, and so instead of picking and choosing,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I think Oliver Stone is trying to do everything and
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that is very tough, especially if you want to do
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: all of these different aspects before you get on the field,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: and then you still want to really kind of dive
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: in to the football action of the rough and tough Yeah,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the rough and toughness of the game, the injury aspect,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and the people putting their bodies on the line because
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: maybe they can get a million dollars because they want
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: to feed their families. I mean it, Yeah, there's there's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: very valid points to all of it, but can you
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: can you make it resonate within this kind of larger
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: story that we're trying to tell, which I think kind
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: of falls onto the head coach and him kind of
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: being weeded out of the game that he's loved for
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: so much, which right now, when I watch that, I
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: think of like a Bill Belichick kind of thing. Yeah, sure,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's it's I think it's tough,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: not to.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you. The only other note that I had,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and we can leave it at this. The cast in this,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I think is is phenomenal. I like Pacino in this role.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't think I would like Pacino in this role,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but I did. I like Cameron Diaz.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Did you like when Pacino said, how about that assold.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: You like that? That big big it's about LT?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: What are talking about Elizabeth Berkeley from Saved by the Bill.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I did like Jamie Fox in this,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: but I was kind of taken aback by some of
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the football guys, like Lawrence Taylor was pretty good in this,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and then I really like Jim Brown as did you.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Say Lawrence Taylor is sort of Lawrence Taylor in this movie?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Probably, But but I think part of what works really
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in this film with LT is that when he's telling
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you of what he's willing to do to provide to
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: him for his family, I think is a conversation that
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: happens more and more and more, and they're willing to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: risk it for the money because it is very much
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a part of strike. When the iron toot, if I
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: have a chance to get a million dollars for my
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: family and there's a chance I'm going to be paralyzed.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: He's going to do it, and he's just I think
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: he's just one character of many who have who have
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: done that. I wanted to make a joke that Dennisquay
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: was based on Dann Marino, because Dan Marino had concussions
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: all the way up to I think past this movie. Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and Dennis Wade sort of kind of could be a
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Dann Marino.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: But he Yeah, he took that shot that was like
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: literally the John Elway helicopter hit. Yeah, so maybe he
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: was supposed to.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: But even like to your point, like I really am
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: invested in that conversation where he has with Pacino's character
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: of like he's scared. Yeah, he is scared that something happened.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: And I think that is very legitimate, But we don't
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: there's not enough focus on it because then we gotta
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: we gotta move to this game, right into that premise
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: and into that character. I think Oliver Stone had very
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: good intentions. I just think it I think for it,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: even for a filmmaker like him, I think it's it's
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: it was very much of an overload of trying to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: encompass everything the NFL offers, good or bad, and then
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: make that into something where you can connect with it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You get pieces of it, but you don't there's still
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: not a full picture.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Kind of I think it was. I think it was
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: overly ambitious, but I ultimately give him a lot of
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: credit for making something that was more realistic in a
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: genre that is loaded with a lot of like Disney
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: style underdog stories like it's this.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Is not this is not your inspirational like I think
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: of like Invincible Rudy things like.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: That, this is not for the Titans radio.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, was We Are Marshall's inspiration? I guess it was.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I mean the plane went down, but I.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Never saw We Are Marshall. Maybe maybe we should do
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that next September. Oh yeah, maybe I'll Giants, I'll or
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Little Giant. We could do. Yeah, that's a more serious
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: football movie.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, they started through the story.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I believe, like any given Sunday correct, All right, well
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. Did you give this
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a star rating?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: No, but I would probably give it like three out
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: of five.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I gave it four because I just I fucking love
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: football and this is the only movie that has gotten
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: close to the feeling of actually being around football.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I like I at least appreciate the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: dirtiness of the business. There is a thing about players
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and trying to do what you can do for as
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: long as you can and make the most money you can,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and the contracts and everything else. But there is also
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the coach element, the owner element, the money element, and
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: it does its best. It does its best in two
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and a half hours to try and get you there.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I can't think of a better way to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: kick off the football season.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: So no, I can't. Willie Beeman and Creaman.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of dis in this movie too.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah and asses Yeah, Dixon, yep. But if you're I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: mean listen, Oliver Stone says, Hey, you want to come
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: into the locker room, that's what it is. You're Yeah,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get a lot of black stallions shoved up
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: in your face.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And on that note, that's gonna do it for this
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: episode of movie review rewind Thank you guys for tuning in.
• 36:34
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• 36:41
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