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AEW Headlines and Dynamite Preview - Winter is Coming · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday, and you know what that means. It's time for Ignition with
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ae W Fan Hub and Winter is coming from Arlington, Texas, and you
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know what that means. We're in Texas, which means are we going to
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see thunder Rosa this week? Hmm. But I'm here with Sleazy C the
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Professional and Renee and we are going to get this thing kicked off with.
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Well, we're going to look back and see what happened over the weekend.
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And I think one of the biggest stories over the weekend, and it's been
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this way for the last couple of weeks, is the Continental Classic. How
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about that match between Androdi Ledlo and Brian Danielson That was just a privilege to
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watch. These matches have been pretty dark good. So we've got a pretty
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big match coming up tomorrow night, and we're going to talk about that,
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the Swerve Strickland and John Moxley match, and we're going to talk about the
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other two matches in the Continental Classic. But one of the things that I
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wanted to point out is that, you know, with how many people do
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we have in the Continental Classic. We have twelve wrestlers in the Continental Classic,
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and some of them are big superstars that you expect to be there,
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but some of them aren't. I mean, you've got Daniel Garcia and Brody
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King and maybe even Mark Brisco is more known to be a tag guy,
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you know, and a trios guy more than a singles wrestler. Ruche just
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came into his own. But the question I'd like to ask everybody, and
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we'll start with Sleazy, is who would have odd of these twelve wrestlers in
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the Continental Classic, do you think is getting the most benefit out of the
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Continental Class? Who's get the biggest push? Well, here's the deal.
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I really hate the Continent Classic. Stupid doesn't make any sense. But if
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we're if I have to talk about who's getting the rub here, I will
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I personally believe. Well, as we're looking at it right here, it's
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pretty clear for the past few weeks that Swerve has been getting the biggest rub
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out of all of this, and he's been needing it. You remember when
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I was calling him the leader of the Factory two point zero. Yeah,
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he's pretty much change now into what's seeming like a legitimate threat, albeit in
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a garbage tournament. You know, he's getting the biggest rub here in terms
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of anybody from the Blue League, I mean it's hard to say. And
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even then that's stilled with more of the established superstars. Daniel Garcia just got
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eliminated, so he ain't getting the rub. Eddie Kingston's already roh and new
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Japan Open strongweight champion Claudio I mean he's already established. Brody King, I
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mean, I'm not sure what rub he needs. And then I guess and
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raw Day you could say he's getting benefit out of this, but in the
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Blue League, there's not really a lot of guys who are getting that rub
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that they need out of this. But well, you don't think that Brody
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Kings. I mean, look, Brody King has been you know, Trio's
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champion. He's not really known for his singles work, and you don't think
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that, Uh. I think the last match that Brody King had that was
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singles, don't get me wrong, before the Continental Classic was his, wasn't
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it the Coffin match Arbi Allen. I mean, I don't know, it's
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been so long. I don't know. Well, I mean, in that
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sort of context, if we're really trying to push him away from House of
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Black and push him more in a single direction, then maybe it seems like
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he's getting the rum here, but personally I'm not really seeing it. And
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plus on Driday probably needs to put probably needs his way more badly than Brody
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King, although then again they're fighting in a garbage tournament, so I don't
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really see the benefit for anyone. But you don't like this tournament, that's
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just. But since I have to, you know, and cuose here,
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I go with the facts, and I'm not lying to myself. I'm telling
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myself the truth. Uh so I'm passing it off to duff professional. What
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is your professional opinion? So my professional opinion, I would have to disagree
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with your I guess outlook on the Communal Classic. I think it's fantastic.
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I think it's a great reset for ad w H to get back to its
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kind of sports based field roots. But the answer the question of who I
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think is getting the biggest rub, I'm actually gonna go with Brody King.
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I kind of alluded to it last week, but I think that this is
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this tournament has been fantastic for him. I didn't think about that going in,
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but once he got that upset over Eddie Kingston, he kept that momental
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rolling. It's another win, He's got six points. Now, I think
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he has the biggest rub out of everyone that's both on a Blue and the
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Goat League, just because he's not a main event talent like Brian Danielson or
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John Moxley or even swear to Strickland, but he can benefit the most from
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a push from this particular type of tournament. So I think he's having a
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great, great time right now with his matches. I don't see him winning,
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but again, I think that he is getting the biggest rub out of
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everyone within this tournament. Well, let me ask you this. I mean,
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when you look at Brody King, what does he have left? He's
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got Brian Danielson that he has to wrestle, He's got Androdi led a load
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that he has to wrestle, and Daniel Garcia that he has to wrestle.
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Do you see him getting one or two wins out of those three matches?
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Well, I can win against Daniel, Guys see him because I believe that
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that's gonna further the storyline of him, you know, having you know,
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issues with Hey, can I let go of being a sports entertainer or just
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go full on wrestler In regards to ANDRAI, I don't know if he beats
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him. Giving that, Andredilo just got an upset win over Brian Daniels,
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and so I don't think he beats Andrade. When it comes to Brian Danilson,
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I don't know if he beats him either, and that that kind of
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sucks. Had it out loud, because he's got some great momentum right now,
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but I think it can be halted with both and I and Brian Danielson.
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Okay, so let's go to Renee. Renee, what are you thinking
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who's getting the biggest robber push out of this tournament? That's hard to say
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it. To be honest with you, I I do like this tournament,
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you know, I really do. It's just because you want to see that
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you know who's gonna step up and show out on both sides, right?
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Absolutely? Yeah, And as you mentioned the intro of this topic, there
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is you know, the com the common note wrestlers are there like Moxley Danielson,
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right. I just I don't know. I I do feel somewhat bad,
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like you know, with Mark Frisco. I know he's the mostly attack
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team wrestler, but I just I don't know those last few matches that he
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was in, I thought he had it, you know, yas, and
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he had a chance to win. And and call me crazy, I felt
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also a little simp effect towards Daniel Garcia as well in his matches, you
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know, because I thought he had a chance to win that too. But
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seriously, for the biggest push, when anyone disagree with the fact about broy
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Kate might be the guy that gay matts, I'll pass it on to the
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next person. Yeah, well, you know, I mean when you look
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at it, Brene, you made a really good point here, and the
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point that you made that I like a lot is that when you look at
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each of these mat I mean, Daniel Garcia put on a good match.
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He's put on good matches. Mark Briscoe has put on good matches. When
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you look up and down the line at this tournament, there isn't like what
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usually happens in aw booking, where you look at a match and say,
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ninety nine percent of the time you know who's gonna win the bout before the
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match even begins. With this, you're kind of like dumbfounded. I'm looking
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at this and I'm saying, okay, brody King has six points Daniel Garcia
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has zero points, and I kind of think that maybe Brody King is gonna
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lose to Daniel Garcia. I mean, and the same thing can happen with
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uh with Mark Briscoe. Mark Briscow has to go against Jay Lethal and Jay
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White. I mean, Jay Lethal has how many points does Jay Lethal have?
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We got both, you know, Jay Lethal has Rouche and Mark Briscoe,
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and Mark Briscoe has Jay Lethal and Jay White. Somebody's gonna win.
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I don't think that. I think you're gonna see some spoilers coming up here,
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but you know, that's what the interesting part about this Continental Classic is
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is that there's no clear cut winner in any match. And even these guys
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like Mark Briscoe and Daniel Garcia Jay Lethal have zero points, they have nothing
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to lose, you know, so if this was real life, they'd probably
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approach it like they have nothing to lose. I don't think Tony con gonna
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have anybody finished with zero points. I really don't somebody's And let's keep in
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mind also that there's draws in this tournament, which yet and it hasn't happened
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yet, but I think that it's a very strong possibility that something's gonna happen
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and it ended a draw. One of these matches that ended a draw,
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and it's just gonna cause all kinds of hell with the with the scoring and
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stuff like that. It's it's pretty interesting to be and sleazy. I don't
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know, I don't like it, but I respect your opinion. Let's move
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on. We did a uh we did a poll in on the aw fan
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Hub sub reddit and I'm kind of shocked at the results of this poll,
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and I wanted to get your opinions on this. The question that was asked
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is does the Trio's Division having matches in a Trio's Division take away from the
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tag team division because you've got tag teams wrestling like the Acclaimed Added Daddy Ass
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and now they I mean, you claim the are former tag team champions,
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Okay, and they went and they wrestled Added Daddy Ass and they're in the
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Trio's Division instead of when's the last time you saw the Acclaim in a tag
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team match? I can't remember, and you got this. So there's there's
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a lot of the wrestlers that are tag teams are wrestling in the Trio's Division.
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And the poll was is it is the Trio's division holding back or hurting
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the Tag Division. And the answer is, according to the community, it
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split dead even equal amount of votes, yes and no, so sleazy.
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My question to you is, is the Tree Division actually hurting the Tag Division?
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Well, I personally believe and absolutely I don't really think it's hurting it
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too bad. I think it's actually maybe benefiting the Tag Division because here's the
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thing, right we're getting newer tag teams right now. Man. We got
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Ricky Starks and Big Bill, and then we got Golden Jets right now,
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and all these other factions that used to be tag teams like Darius Martin,
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the other guy in Dante White, Top Flight and Action Andretti. That's gonna
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help Action Andretti, you know, help them go up the card. And
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if Action Andretti turns on them or for some ungodly reason they break up,
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then you know, it could either split into a tag division or something like
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that. And then with the acclaim, they turn into a trio. Specifically
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to give Billy Gunn the respect he deserves as you know, better and professional,
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because if there's something that AW is really good at doing is respecting their
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veterans. So a Trios Division just tends to benefit everybody, including the Tag
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Division. Now, sure, you know you might have some booking mistakes here
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and there with some tag teams turning them into factions, which is ungodly amount
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of stupid. But the fact of the matter is a Trio's division ain't really
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hurting it just by its plain existence. You know, it just benefits everybody
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in my opinion. But now, professional, what is your professional opinion on
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this? So? I think it is actually hurt the Tag division, but
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I think it's due to there being another Trials belt for all age. I'm
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really confused of why we have that. I didn't necessarily think that the Trios
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built needed to be at it. I'm okay with it, but it is
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still kind of confusing given that there's an r H six man Attack Championship and
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there's really no distinction in the I guess the challengers so I mentioned top Flight
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with Action ANDRETTI, I mean they can also challenge for ROH six man Attack
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Team title. So I just don't know why we have belts for both.
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I guess maybe they can look to merge the belts or unify the belts,
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but I do think that it is hurting. But it's from that standpoint given
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that there's two sets of even though they are called differently, but they're both
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Trio Tag Team Championships, it just presents a lot of confusion and I kind
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of don't care about the trio's division. I love their claim, but it
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just makes me not care. Well, here's something to think about too.
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You know, you brought up a good point in that Top Flight Action Andretti
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easily go over to R O H and battle for their Trios Championship. We've
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got final battle from Ring of Honor coming up on Friday at seven o'clock on
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Honor Club and Blackpool. Who whoold? I can't remember the match off the
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top of my head. Does anybody know the match for Honor Club? What
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is it? It's it's BCC and who f t R Brisco. There you
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go. So there's two more aw teams that could literally go and wrestle it
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in me Ring of Honor. Like you were saying, the professional h So
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Renee, let me get your take on this. What the what do you
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think about what the professional said? And and what what what the original question
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was? You know, due to trios titles hold back the tag titles in
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aw I don't think so it's britto because you know what I mean, I
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know what you mean. Yeah, it's like it's okay, I'm I'm gonna
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try to make make sense to this too. Where okay, as so as
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far as as so far we all know, like a dog has these different
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belts, right right, like the deal the world had was it the top
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one is the world headweight belt, and so forth down the line. Okay,
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So the reason why I said no is because you know, it's it's
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different, it's a different belt, just one. Like it's just that we
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haven't really seen a tag team match in a while. Like if anyone can
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answer one the last one that you saw, shout it out, because otter
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than that, I've seen the Acclaim do their thing, right, you could
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probably include the House of Black, you know, doing their thing. I
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can't think of anybody else, honest, Well, actually a few tag team
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matches, but none of them. I mean, what's the last time you
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saw a Big Bill and Ricky Starks in the match? The last time my
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MEMORYO and so mains with me, guys is that when they apparently did the
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beat down to FDR, which I never thought ever is going to happen between
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that them. But it is what it is. So but I yeah,
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I should just actually just let me finish. The only ones I could think
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of for taxing taxing partners is go Jets and maybe Young Bucks but f t
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R but I and okay Starks and Starts a Big Belt if you pull my
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finger on that one. But again, there's no one else that's really standing
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out to me. And tag team. No, That's what I'm saying is
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that it's kind of the tag team in trio's division is kind of being buried
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right now. Yes, we've had trios matches, Yes we've had tag matches,
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we even had it, but we haven't had the right ones the Acclaimed
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if not wrestle the trios match since god knows when, and either a Big
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Bill and Ricky Starks. So what are we doing? Why we have the
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trios and tag belts? You know, in the past, if somebody wasn't
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able to wrestle, they would just have a in term. Why not make
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the BCC and the FTR versus and Mark Brisco match on Final Battle? Why
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din't they just make that for the term trios belts? Because the acclaims certainly
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aren't are defending. I don't understand the logic. Here. Another thing I
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want to bring up, and everyone can take their two cents on this makes
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sense to do a tournament like you know, like not now, but down
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the line right and then crowd an actual champion or maybe a new champion.
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I want to see it. There's a lot of possibilities, just like you
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can even like like make it wide open. Okay, you can even bring
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few of them, are all right from R O H shop be part of
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it, you know, like seeing the case. I'm just I'm going outside
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of this. No, but what you're saying, I'm better give an answer
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to your question and I I'm gonna but I'm gonna stup double it aside.
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At the same time, do what I want to see a tournament to crown
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a new tag team champion. Absolutely yes, but not the men's championship the
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women's tag team championship. So that's what's missing in your opinion. I don't
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think that a tag team Championship tournament for the men would be viable because Ricky
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Starks and Big Bill won the championship and they are to defending and reigning champions.
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They just need to. They just need to wrestle. You know.
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If they're not going to wrestle, then they need to take the tag team
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champions off of them, championship belts off of them. I don't know what's
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going on why they're not wrestling. Let's move on because winter is coming and
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we've got that. I alluded to this earlier, and this isn't even in
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our outline, but I wanted to bring this up. Is that the next
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three shows I believe are in Texas. We've got Arlington, Garland, and
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San Antonio. Those are those are the shows now? I don't know.
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I know Arlington is dynamite, san Antonio is probably a collision. Yeah.
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Where's Garland? Is that dynamite rampage? Probably they probably do? And Final
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Battle Okay? Is that right? I think Final Battle and Collision? Okay,
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So you know, I mean, look, you know, we've got
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shows in Texas, and Texas crowds are hot, you know, and we've
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got these big matches coming up. We've got three Continental Classic matches and I
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don't want to get into all of them, but I do want to get
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into a couple of them. One is the big match we're Strickland and John
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Moxley. I mean that is I don't even know how to explain that match.
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That is just gonna be complete carnage because they're so similar in what they
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they do. It's leazy. They both got nine points. The winner of
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this match is likely going to the semi finals. Matter of fact, if
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they do have a winner, keep in mind, they could go to a
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draw, and that could really throw a lupid to it, especially with Jay
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White lurking right around the corner. Sleazy, who do you have the John
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Moxley Swear Strickland match? Do you think that this is the one that's gonna
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end in a draw? Well in the Continental trash Pile Tournament. Uh?
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I astdally think like if we're if it's supposed to be the thing, we're
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supposed to be the complete reset, and we're not supposed to know what's gonna
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happen, So we're ever supposed to win. Okay, we expect to draw,
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we expect Swear to lose. If he wins, then boom, we're
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back to unexpected eight of where everything is unexpected. Whoa, oh my god,
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but guess what it doesn't Bru's my point at this tournament sucks but yeah,
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I think Sworth taking a win that profession no professional opinion. Yeah,
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so I actually think John Moxley is gonna take to win here in the Fantastic
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Condle Classic tournament. I want to see. I'm really interested in how they're
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going to handle Swurve because I do not think he's gonna win this tournament at
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all. But he's got a lot of momentum. I mean, he was
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just talking with the commissioner of the National Football League on the sidelines, Roger
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Goodell. I mean, for Tony Conne even put him in that position.
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He sees a lot of big things in him. But I don't think he
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sees him winning the Classic, and neither do I and I just want to
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know how they handle that. And I think this would probably be the first
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loss for Swerve, and I just want to I'm really excited again to see
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how that is handled. I'm also excited to see how John Moxley is handled
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because he kind of alluded to it like he's really banged up. He is,
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he needs some time off, So how are they gonna handle that.
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Last week I was really focused on the story and after the match with some
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matches, and that's the case here for this match. I've got John Moxley
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went in, but I want to see what happens to both after this match,
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so I'll throw it over to Renee. I with you on on that
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one. Marx will win. It's I just he'll find a way to win.
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If it means that that's the cat sorry decapitates worse ricklet Well, we
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want to see that. Oh my gosh, Well I don't. Well you
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see what he lariat does. He does like I swear to god, it's
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like it's gonna take Son's head off. Did that? Hang man? That's
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true? Yeah? Right, So yeah, that's what I partict. I
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wrote down the winners somewhere on the dampoud so I'm sticking to it, and
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I'm and I'm not going to budge come come match day on it. So
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well, you know, look, I really do believe that if there was
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any match it was gonna end in a draw, it's gonna be John Moxley
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and Square Strickland. Look, Jay White was kind of embarrassed by losing to
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a crippled you know, MJF at the pay per view, and he's hanging
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in right there. If if we have John Moxley and square Strickland go to
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a draw that leaves them both at ten points, and Jay White beats Mark
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brisco That puts Mark Briscoe and puts Jay White at nine points, one point
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behind. And you know what that means. It means that Jay White has
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a shot because who does J White Russell rush right, Jy Yeah? J
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White beaches beats Roused, that he's one point behind John Moxley and squares Strickland.
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That means that the last match in ja Ja White has is against John
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Moxley, I believe, And well, the winner of that match goes to
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the semi finals. So that sets it up. But then you also have
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to look there's so much going on because again Mark Briscoe, I don't think
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he's gonna go winless, and I don't think that Jay Lethal is gonna go
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winless, So you gotta look at it that way. I don't think that
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Tony Kahn is gonna throw Briscoe and Lethal to the Wolves. Put it that
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way, so brisco will win one of his last team matches Jay and so
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Wild Jay Lethal. I don't think that Ruche is gonna pass, is going
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to pass. I think he's gonna He's anna win, but he's gonna come
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up short. He's gonna come up just out at the top. So yeah,
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so let's look at the just a quick overview of the last two matches.
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We have Rouche against Jay Lethal and we also have J White against Mark
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Briscoe. Now I've already said that I think Rush is going to beat Jay
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Lethal and I think Jay White is gonna beat Mark Mark Briscoe. Sleazy,
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give us, give us predictions real quick on those two matches. I'm sorry,
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what were they again? J? J. White against Mark Briscoe and
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Ruche against Jay Lethal. Well, obviously, as I think you just said,
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did not throwing Mark Risco under the bus. But they're certainly throwing Jay
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Lethal off of the bus. I mean, come on, he's been in
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all years. He's gonna lose again, as simple as that. Okay,
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So you have Rush over Lethal and what about Mark Briscow and Jay White.
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Yeah, Mark Mark Briscoe is going over in the Continental Trash File. You
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think Mark Briscow is gonna be Jay White in this match? Yes, okay,
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let's move on to the professional What are your predictions on these two matches?
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Yes, I'm gonna actually have to agree with Sleazy for j brisco and
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Jay White, I think this is going to further the storyline with Big White
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just you know, not losing his mind, but just I'm not really happy
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about his performance and their commental classic, which is great. By the way,
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I don't see Mark Briscoe going winless, as was mixing earlier. I
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don't think some ony's gonna have anybody finished with zero points, so I think
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this is the way for Mark Briscow to get that win, and you know,
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again it helps further that story for Jay White in regardless to Rouge and
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Jay Leith, though I'm kind of tormenting this because to Sleazy's point, Jay
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Lethal has been losing all year. But also, like I just mentioned and
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was stated earlier, I don't think Tony KLA's gonna allow anybody to have zero
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points, so this could be a great way for j Lethal to have that
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history points with the winning over Rouge. However, I think that could perhaps
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hurt Rush as well, so I just don't know. With that match,
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I'm leaning more towards Rouge, but I wouldn't be surprised if J Lethal also
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won this match, So I'll throw it over to Nick Aver weighing in,
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I mentioned Maxley was gonna win it, and also I have Bresco winning it.
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I figured I left out Okay, who's Lethal facing again is going against
30:04
Ruche. Okay, so my bad. So I basically cover all bases on
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gonna win those matches. Okay, you know I I've already made my picks.
30:19
I do think that Jay White's going over Briscoe, and I do think
30:22
Rush is going over Jay Lethal. I just don't see how they could possibly
30:30
get around it. But I want to move on because I found this to
30:33
be very interesting. We had two champions won the r OH Women's World champion
30:41
Athena. She was on Under the Ring podcast and she said that after her
30:51
match where she will retain the Ring of Honor World Championship over Billy Stark's at
30:57
Final Battle on from at seven o'clock on on her club, she wants to
31:03
go after both Julia Hart and the TBS Championship and Tony Storm and the AW
31:14
World Championship. Earlier this week on Instagram, ReHO did a question and answer
31:22
session with her fans and somebody asked her if she was going after Julia Hart
31:30
and the TBS Championship and Rio's answer was that she is very interested in Julia
31:37
Heart and the TBS Championship, but right now she's focusing on the AW Women's
31:45
World Championship. So basically, we've got ReHO and Athena both coming out and
31:53
saying they're going after all the gold, especially on Athena's part. So the
32:01
question here is we've got Rio in a match against poor Ruby Soho. Let's
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all take a couple of seconds. And yeah, I mean Ruby Soho for
32:17
those of you that don't know, and I brought this up before in our
32:22
podcast. Ruby Soho of course was Ruby Riot at WWE, and then she
32:27
came over to AW and she's been at AW for past what two years now?
32:32
I think something like that. Ruby Soho has never won a championship belt
32:37
in either WWE or AW. She's beltless. She is literally the queen of
32:47
the jobbers. She does well until it gets to crunch time, and then
32:53
she's basically used to be the one to lose and give somebody else the belt,
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you know, And that's what's gonna happen here. So Ruby Soho is
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going against Rio on uh on Winter's Coming Dynamite tomorrow night. The question here
33:08
is does anybody see There's there's a two part question, does anybody see Ruby
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Soho beat Rio tomorrow night? And the second question is is because I just
33:21
want to know who's crazy and who's who's got working brain cells? And the
33:27
second most important question is based on what Athena and Rio said about going after
33:34
the TBS Championship and the Women's World Championship. Of course the focus is more
33:38
on Tony Storm and the Women's World champion chip. Which those two women do
33:44
you think would be better off getting the belt? If any of them,
33:49
either of them Athena or Riho. Let's go sleezy. Let's just say this,
33:57
Ruby Soho's career is just as day as the wwi WE Lightweight heavy Lightweight
34:01
Championship. So yeah, right back. So so anyway, yeah, Ruby's
34:10
taking the last look. I'm sleazy, not crazy. There's a big difference.
34:16
But anyway, in terms of like, this is not a question of
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who would be better off with the belt since Athena brought it into the Roman
34:25
possibility. It might be a question of who would be better as a belt
34:30
collector. It's like we've seen the bell collector with Kenny Omega, but we
34:35
haven't seen anything like that in the women's division. Something something like that would
34:42
be absolutely crazy. Now here's the thing. Rio's a babyface and the fact
34:47
of the matter is her current character work. I'm sorry, I just would
34:53
not work as a bell collector championship hell yeah, but as a bell collier
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that that's just not gonna work now with Athena. She's a heel right now.
35:06
So I mean, I know I talk on heels getting all the success
35:08
all the time, but for once, I'm going back on that for once,
35:14
because this actually makes the most sense for Athena to be a belt collector
35:17
right now. I mean, she's she's been on an undefeated streak for god
35:22
knows how long, even longer than even longer than that certain hair with those
35:28
woman with the white hair. Yeah, and it's actually good. So yeah.
35:35
So in the realm of possibility, she could be the belt collector,
35:39
and it would make sense for her to be a bell collector. But let's
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pass it off to the professional for his professional opinion. You know, I
35:50
like your idea about Athena being a bell collector. However, I think it'll
35:54
only work if it was across three separate promote that weren't related to a W,
36:01
similar to like how can you then can Omega did when he had the
36:06
Impact World Championship what it was at the A Champion Mega Championship or whatever it's
36:12
called, and then a W world title. I don't think it would work
36:15
if she had three belts within a W or under the AW umbrella, but
36:21
I think that would be pretty awesome, and it would also help solidify even
36:27
though it is solidified, but even further solidify women's wrestling in North America.
36:31
I actually really really do like that idea there, and it actually took me
36:37
away from the original question because there was such a good idea. So Kelson,
36:43
can you run by that original question again? I just want to make
36:45
sure that we stay on top of well the original question for us, do
36:49
you think Ruby so stands a snowballs chance at I don't, I don't,
36:57
I don't. I think it was a two part question I remember correctly,
37:01
But the other part. The second part was the belt collector thing. Which
37:05
are the two would you prefer has the best chance? If either of them?
37:09
You could have said Ruby, I mean, you could have said Rio,
37:12
you could have said the THEA. You could have said hell no,
37:15
none of them I mean, I'm with the Theata like I had mentioned before.
37:20
But going back to Ruby Soho and real, No, I don't think
37:25
she's gonna beat I don't think Ruby's gonna beat Riho for a number of reasons.
37:30
One, she is the queen of jobbers like you had mentioned it,
37:34
and two she has his ongoing story with that I can't remember his name now
37:42
guy, Yes, yes, exactly, She's got that ongoing story. And
37:49
then you also got that you know on the side with uh with what am
37:53
I? Why am I calling her page? But you know what I'm talking
37:57
about. Yes, so Riah, So, I don't think she's gonna win
38:01
here, and you've got Rio coming back. Of course she's gonna win this
38:07
match, but you know, it kind of does stuff for Ruby. I
38:08
mean yeah, for Ruby because he hasn't want to go in any promotion,
38:14
but it's not gonna change with this match. So yeah, I don't see
38:19
Ruby Soho winning this match. Well, Renee, let's go to you.
38:23
Let's see what we've Let's see if you are going to be a little bit
38:28
different like me, or if you're gonna kind of stay the course. What
38:34
do you think is? Does Ruby Soho have a snowballs chance in hell beating
38:38
Rijo? And of Athena and Rio, which one do you think has the
38:49
better chance of being a belt collector? Or? Do either state a chance
38:53
to be a belt collector? I have to agree with the professor. I
38:59
think it was it's last book a professional professional. Sorry my bad, because
39:07
like she's gonna be too distracted with Angela Parker smooching her all the time in
39:14
that ring, and that's gonna cost her when it would all takes just a
39:16
quick roll up Rio, you know, and and ask for uh the belt?
39:25
Who should get the belt or beat the belt collector? Is that the
39:29
question? Yeah? Should should Rio be the belt collector? Should a Tha
39:34
be a belt collector? Should neither of them be a belt collector? Can
39:37
you imagine? I'm really serious, guys, can imagine a being that person?
39:43
Like she just gonna do more violence that you can that she ever does,
39:47
Like I can't sorry to go back to the past, but look at
39:52
her. Matt pass backs even on dark, dark elevations against nobody's Like,
39:57
it doesn't matter if it's nobody or an actual old wrestler. Right, do
40:01
you want that type of person to be a champion? I don't. I
40:06
know that everyone like Satina and all that, that's fine, but me,
40:08
it's like last thing one. It's like someone who's just gonna doesn't give a
40:13
damn it, just all cares about herself. That's it. You know,
40:17
Rio is this it's just something nice to see you. Oh. I'm like,
40:22
I'm gonna assume that Rio never won a belt before. Right, Rio
40:30
was the first aw world champion. Okay, my apologies, but I probably
40:36
yeah because I caught I caught on an w probably like a year two.
40:39
So yep, she was the inaugural women's champion in a w Okay. Yeah,
40:49
you know, let me start with the first question, and that's does
40:54
Ruby. So no, she does not stand in a snowball's chance. Now
40:59
being real, tomorrow night, I really do hope that Angela Parker comes out
41:02
and they create a baby tomorrow night, because it's the only thing that she
41:07
could probably possibly do, right, you know, I mean it's serious.
41:09
I mean I want to see her at least has some fun, you know,
41:12
because she's just gonna get the stop beat out of her tomorrow night,
41:15
you know, and it's not going to be pretty. But when it comes
41:19
to ReHO and for Athena. I really do want to see Athena back at
41:23
AW. She's too good for Ring of Honor and she's being wasted on a
41:29
show that nobody watches. And frankly, she is the star of aid of
41:36
Ring of Honor because she's the only one that's the mainstay there. Everybody else
41:40
in Ring of Honor comes over to AW and fights at AW. You know,
41:45
so I got to give it to a theater. She's basically stayed in
41:49
Ring of Honor and has been the anchor to that. She deserves a title
41:54
shot. Do I think she's a belt collector? No? Do I think
41:59
Rejo is the belt collector? No? I think that they may each get
42:02
a belt. I could see Rio maybe taking the belt off of Julia Hart.
42:07
I could see athenambing the women's World Champion, and I be fine with
42:12
that. Do I think it's going to happen, No, but I could
42:15
see it. I don't know if you understand the distinction there. But it
42:21
brings up another interesting point, you know, because there's two women that are
42:24
out there that are really being talked about, you know, going to either
42:30
AW or WWE. Mostly talked about going to WWE, So it could be
42:37
a boot point, and there's also a third or. But you've got Mercedes
42:43
Monet who is going to be going somewhere soon, Julia from Stardom, who,
42:52
in my opinion, is probably one of the top five wrestlers in the
42:58
world right now. I didn't say women's wrestlers. I mean it, she's
43:01
one of the top five wrestlers period in the world right now. Got Deanna
43:07
Perrazzo also that's available. I mean, I think more than likely you're going
43:15
to see Parazzo coming to AW. Unfortunately, I think that Mercedes and probably
43:21
Julia are going to go to w W, although frankly I think they'd both
43:25
be smarter to stay and stardom and then to go there. But that's my
43:31
thing. I think that if you're going to have a belt collector, one
43:37
of those three winner's going to be your belt collector. Not what we've got
43:40
now, it's scary. What do you think about the status of the aw's
43:45
women's division is as good as it's gotten. If AW can somehow score all
43:52
three of those women, forget about it, best women's division in the in
43:59
the world automatically with those three women. I mean, I believe Mercedes' contract
44:06
is you know, she's a free agent. I believe Pazzo is a free
44:09
agent and Julie, I think is a free agent come March, and she
44:15
has stated she wants to come to the United States, so that's going to
44:20
be interesting to see. And speaking of spiky spicy predictions, let's go with
44:28
our spicy predictions for the week. These could be something about the matches that
44:34
are coming up tomorrow night. It could be a storyline that we haven't talked
44:39
about yet that maybe what are you thinking here? It didn't even talk about
44:45
the Devil tonight? Unbelievable, but anyway, it's leazy. Do you have
44:52
a spicy prediction that doesn't include you know who and you know who about you
44:59
know what? Good times? So uh, I do have a prediction here,
45:07
and that's with the Golden Jets. I think, what's gonna happen?
45:10
They're gonna challenge for the tag titles and then you know, Ricky Starks comes
45:16
in and looks like an absolute idiot while Big Bill comes in looks like an
45:21
absolute chad, and then you know they're they're gonna have the match, and
45:24
then that leads to a later prediction. I think the Golden Jets are gonna
45:29
be your new tag team champions soon and then Big Bill is going to be
45:31
a Chad and dumped the Virgin Ricky Starks. Oh you forgot the he start
45:37
for the Virgin. He's Vanilla, Yes, Vanella Rock, Ricky Starks Virgin
45:44
Vanilla Rock. Rudy so professional. What's what's your spicy predictions? Yeah?
45:53
I know this is probably gonna be a weak early, but I think that
46:00
thunder Rosa is gonna return soon. Oh, I don't know if it's a
46:04
week early. It's the San Antonio show next weekend or is that the Saturday?
46:07
No, yeah, it's next Saturday. Yeah. I think thunder Rosa
46:10
is gonna return at that show. It makes so much sense. She's ready,
46:15
she's been getting her name out there with just various interviews at the timing
46:20
is right. I just don't know who she I guess interrupts or maybe it's
46:25
a Tony Storm. But I am predicting a thunder Rosa return next Saturday at
46:32
Collision in San Antonio. So I will throw it over to with men.
46:39
All right, thank you, thank you. A wow, that's a tough
46:47
one for me. Good but all right, I'll give give one out.
46:57
I'm gonna say the final bat there's a match that was that no one has
47:01
been talking about, Shane Taylor versus Keith Lee. Oh yeah, meat on
47:09
meat, just like the other match there, match I saw on the Otter
47:14
Otter brands, which I will not mention to who we are, but if
47:17
you do, do you know my watching google it? Okay? Anyways,
47:24
So besides BCC versus H versus Brisco and FDR, I'm but my prediction is
47:36
gonna be Lee will win on top. I don't like Shane Taylor, never
47:39
had never will makes me feel good when someone can take him down because the
47:45
last time I seen Shane taking an l was ar Fox and that and we
47:52
know what Fox can do when he's on, so he's his quickness and everything
47:57
else. Take League, take a tear. So I don't know, well
48:00
that's gonna go. But I just know, like like some people will say,
48:05
it's gonna be a banger. That's my Spice prediction. Taylor will lose
48:10
Delee fair enough. I can't argue that one either. That's that's a pretty
48:16
good prediction. I'd go back to the professional here with my prediction because my
48:22
prediction also has to do with thunder Rosa. Thunder Rosa was actually on a
48:27
Texas morning like you know morning show this this week where she was plugging the
48:34
shows coming up and in Texas, specifically the San Antonio show. I'm going
48:42
to disagree with you just a hair on this the professional I think, Tony,
48:47
I think that thunder Rosa shows up before the San Antonio show next week.
48:54
I think she shows up this week either on MT or Rampage or whatever,
49:02
and issue is a challenge for next week because she's back and she's ready
49:07
to go. Just don't come out. I mean it makes sense if you're
49:12
gonna have her go out, have her go out with and have a match,
49:15
don't have her just go out and wave at the crowd and and whatnot.
49:21
She's gonna get The pop question is well she get a world title shot,
49:28
you know, two weeks before. It makes a lot of sense because
49:37
you can use that to sell tickets as opposed to, like you just said,
49:42
of Wave pretty much opponent for worlds in. Yet I don't. I
49:50
don't even think they like hinted at her even having a match that world in.
49:55
I mean they not really you Mariah May just standing around looking cute.
50:02
I mean, I think the only championship match we have set for World's End
50:06
is mg F and Samoa Joe right, that's correct, Yes, a Big
50:12
Bill and Ricky Starks. Nothing, Tony Storm nothing, Julia Hart nothing.
50:16
I think she is going to fight Abadon, but I don't think they're going
50:21
to keep that. That's not a pay per view match. That's a ram
50:23
page match. If he asked me with Julia r Da like a you know,
50:30
these a zero hour match, if you will, Yeah, it's between
50:36
Abdon and Heart. Yeah, but you know, Heart has already proven.
50:39
I mean she spent in the last proper pay per views and did really well
50:45
and you know, gotten really good reactions, really good match ratings for women's
50:50
matches. The Heart match, as a matter of fact against stat Lander was
50:57
rated much higher, and the Tony Storm went over what the hell did Tony
51:04
Storm beat Sorea? I think so I can't remember who the champion was,
51:10
sore because remember like Kelson that oh it was a car. Oh sorry Sia,
51:20
my my bad. But no, I mean it was That's what I'm
51:22
saying. It was so inconsequential I could remember it. I mean I had,
51:25
you know, rain cramp. I just couldn't remember who the who the
51:29
champion was that Tony Storm took it off of, you know, right well,
51:34
but I also still don't remember too where Sara was when the belt that
51:37
you know, all in London how become a sensation over the country too,
51:43
that that matters, but just it's just that's one thing possed in my mind
51:45
for twenty twenty three. Yeah, moments of I mean, I mean when
51:52
you I mean, when you look at it, I mean, we were
51:57
doing some stories, that's not the problem, but they're you know, look,
52:01
the Continental Classic is going to culminate at World's end, and that is
52:07
a titled belt right there. So so the World MGS title defense against Mojo
52:13
is not the only title up for grabs right now. We already know that
52:17
the Continental Classic title is going to be up for grabs, so, you
52:22
know, and that's a I think they're making a big deal out of that,
52:27
and I think that they're holding off on any other championship bounts just so
52:32
that it doesn't take away from the prestige of the Continental Classic that I know
52:38
that Sleezy is just dying to see. But anyway, that is good to
52:50
be our show for tonight, I wanted to thank Sleezy the professional and Renee
52:53
for coming out and chatting with us. We are AW fans, all of
52:59
us here a W fans, and we do this for AW fans, and
53:02
we do it for ourselves because we just like hearing our voices. That's the
53:07
best way to put it. So moreverda and for a professional and sleazy this
53:14
is Kelson. Good night, everybody,