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Ep. 150 - Vampiric Triple Feature (Dracula 2000, Dracula 3000 and Blade) · Frightmares

• 0:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know everyone is.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, straw hat guy did he yes, He's like yeah,
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, no one gets the metaphor. Like it's like,
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: how is no one getting this metaphor? It's it's very
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: obvious because you have to think about why it's there,
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: and that's it's the only conceivable reason.
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  Speaker 1: Well, people you know, don't. They don't think deeper, and
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: they take it at surface value and are confused when
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: they don't explain it. But we should know this by
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: now that you know Jordan Peele's movies have a deeper,
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: much deeper meaning.
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  Speaker 2: Being on this podcast has made me aggressively critically think
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  Speaker 2: through so many movies, and at this point I can't
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  Speaker 2: not see all the metaphors. There's some movies where it
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  Speaker 2: didn't even occur to me, and then I'll be like, oh,
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: so this is a metaphor. It is a metaphor. Oh God,
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: because this scene happened and then that happened, and if
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: you look at that, that's why this is all happening.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: Because it's a metaphor. I'm like, oh God, I can't
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  Speaker 2: stop doing it. You're welcome, Yeah, well you're welcome because
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  Speaker 2: it helps me explain the movie, the parts of the
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: movie where you're like I don't get the help what
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: the hell that was for? And apparently I'm just over
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: here figuring the shit out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, uh, during the movie, I was like, Okay,
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna explain that. But once you see
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  Speaker 1: you know that guy's character and what he does in
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  Speaker 1: the movie. I kind of had an eye idea of
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  Speaker 1: what of what it was. But then when you said it,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that's what I was trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like that's what I was trying to think of, but
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't, you know, put it into words, and then
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: you said it, and I was like, that's why they
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: did that.
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  Speaker 2: To me, trying to help you get more on board
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  Speaker 2: with the metaphors, especially when it's like a female message
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  Speaker 2: because obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Female, yeah, not a female.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's really made me like analyze movies and think
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  Speaker 2: about the metaphor. That's why when we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: men and at first we were like, oh, I get
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  Speaker 2: the metaphor, and then the more you think, you're better
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: like that was a ham fisted metaphor. Yeah, that metaphor
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  Speaker 2: didn't work. They kind of forgot what they were doing.
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  Speaker 2: Midway through, Like now I just think about those things.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: We can all agree too that you are the smartest
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  Speaker 1: person on the podcast. I mean, it's not it's not
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  Speaker 1: new information. Even when I'm you know, when I talked
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: to Corey about the podcast, he's like, you know, Gabby
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: is we talk about how I Yeah, she's the you're
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  Speaker 1: the brains of this entire podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Said, Uh, that's what I'm using. Yeah, college degree, fucking side,
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: isn't it for anything else?
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: Corey is the comic relief and a random facts guy.
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: And then Spencer just knows everything you could ever possibly
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  Speaker 1: want to know about movies and I'm just here so.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of movie trivia, just not horror specific.
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  Speaker 1: No, you have lots of movie trivia. And like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you're the smartest person, so you'll figure something out that
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  Speaker 1: we probably won't. And you can remember a movie like
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  Speaker 1: you fucking are watching it and telling me about it.
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  Speaker 2: The good news this is the first movie we watched.
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  Speaker 2: The one I'm talking about I've seen so many times.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: And I've seen both of them one time. So without
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  Speaker 1: further ado, we'll get back to Jordan Peel's NOP in
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  Speaker 1: just a second. This is episode one hundred and fifty.
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  Speaker 2: We have a button just pick one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, what a horrendous pick for one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty episode. I guess that's better. Anyways, Uh, cut that out.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe this is episode one, one hundred and fifty.
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  Speaker 1: We have a massive episode today. I say that, but really,
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  Speaker 1: me and you are doing two movies, and then we're
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  Speaker 1: planning to record our episode in a couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: But I should be joined by my buddy Michael Veers
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  Speaker 1: to do something separate but also related to what we're doing. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so today's Tuesday that we're recording. Then me and him
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  Speaker 1: are supposed to record Thursday, so that is still most
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: likely happening. So yeah, we're doing. Like I said, we're
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  Speaker 1: doing two movies. Me and you are gonna do Dracula
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and Dracula three thousand because we hate ourselves
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  Speaker 1: and we figured for and you know, like a monumentous episode,
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  Speaker 1: like one fifty monumentous episode for one to fifty. We
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: decided to do something fun and different. So I'm gonna
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: take a movie. You're gonna take a movie. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: review them, talk about how good slash bad they were
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  Speaker 1: mostly bad, and do the normal thing that we would want.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? What happened?
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  Speaker 2: I like that you monumental and momentous to monumentus.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: Monumentous event both make up words all the time, like
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  Speaker 1: legitterally it's literally and legitimately matched into one. What anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna have fun this episode. We're pretty
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  Speaker 1: much gonna get right into it because we have to
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  Speaker 1: do two movies and we haven't done two movies, and
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  Speaker 1: like you know, since last year. Uh, but I do
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to Oh I'm I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Austin Procter, and that is your other host,
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  Speaker 1: Gabriel Procter, who who what?
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  Speaker 3: What?
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: Okay? Say hello or something hello or something I knew
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  Speaker 1: that was gonna happen.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So we were talking about Nope and some metaphors about
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  Speaker 1: what was going on with the chimp in that movie, Gordy,
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  Speaker 1: So why don't you go ahead and tell everybody what
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  Speaker 1: that metaphor is if you have seen it, even if
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  Speaker 1: you haven't seen it. It's not a spoiler, but it
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  Speaker 1: will help you going into the movie knowing what this
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  Speaker 1: metaphor is supposed to be. So it's gonna benefit you
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  Speaker 1: no matter if you've seen it or not, so take
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  Speaker 1: it away.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, if you've seen the trail, if you know
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  Speaker 2: about the movie, you've most likely seen the trailer. You
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: know this is about aliens. So one of the characters.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: It's an opening sequence about revolving around a show, a
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  Speaker 2: sitcom where one of the main cast members much in
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  Speaker 2: the thread of like Alf, except it was a live
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  Speaker 2: animal and it was a chimp, and it's they show
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  Speaker 2: an incident that happened where the chimp.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, hey stop, someone ring our doorbell. This is not
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: the time. Who is it. I don't know it's someone.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: Let's just not answer because we're doing a podcast. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: dude at the door, come back later. Anyways, Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: So the chimp, Gordy Gordy uh, loses control, goes crazy attacks.
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  Speaker 2: You see him covered in blood. You see the feet
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  Speaker 2: of somebody off in the disk off to the side
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  Speaker 2: that he's clearly attacked, and it's really like there are
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  Speaker 2: more scenes with him kind of explaining one of the
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  Speaker 2: character's experiences with that and how he interacted with the
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  Speaker 2: chimp versus everybody else, and how his interaction was more
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  Speaker 2: the chimp's training and less about did the guy leave yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and less about you know, him losing it. So like
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  Speaker 2: this guy has this whole idea in his head that
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  Speaker 2: he has made a connection with a wild animal, and
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  Speaker 2: it plays into the whole film about the aliens and
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  Speaker 2: how you know, the main characters are trying to film
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  Speaker 2: get get these aliens on film. And the whole chimp
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  Speaker 2: thing is literally just a metaphor for believe you can
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  Speaker 2: control something that's completely wild and you really have no
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  Speaker 2: communication with and you really can never understand or tame. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what the chimp is about. It's literally just showing
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  Speaker 2: you a real world example because we have so many
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  Speaker 2: of people who are so stupid and interact with wild animals.
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  Speaker 2: Even trained wild animals are always unpredictable wild animals. If
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: you've seen what the hell is that damn tiger.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: Show Tiger King, Thank you Lie is deceit and deception
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  Speaker 1: or something.
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  Speaker 2: Tiger King, you know, he was around tigers most of
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  Speaker 2: his life and he still got attacked from time to time,
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  Speaker 2: like it happens. So the people who think you can
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  Speaker 2: totally just have fun reactions. I even saw something recently
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  Speaker 2: where people were putting their toddler on a sea lion
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  Speaker 2: a wild sea lion out in the wild, like just
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  Speaker 2: on a beach to get a photo, and they are
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  Speaker 2: and then it started to get upset because they put
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  Speaker 2: something on it. And they are so lucky that that
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  Speaker 2: kid didn't get killed, because sea lions will attack you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they're wild animals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's the whole metaphor. If you don't
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  Speaker 2: get the monkey thing, it's it's literally just a metaphor
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  Speaker 2: for thinking that you can tame something and commercialize it
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  Speaker 2: when you really can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they go into it about how something can
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  Speaker 1: just make an animal snap for no reason. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's rules out in the wilds get startled. Yeah, animals
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  Speaker 1: get startled, they can get triggered, they can snap. So
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  Speaker 1: it's just that you know, you cannot control things because
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  Speaker 1: they have they might have rules that you know you're
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  Speaker 1: not aware about, and if you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just like it's a whole thing. So it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. But so like I said, if you've seen
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  Speaker 1: it and it didn't make sense, now it should. And
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it now you know that going
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  Speaker 1: in because I know that's kind of a point of
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  Speaker 1: not contention, but like a breakdown of what people are
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  Speaker 1: understanding is that whole metaphor, which, yeah, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't put it into words for me, I
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  Speaker 1: would have still been like, I know what I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to think of, I just can't form it into words.
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  Speaker 2: So well, they did a nice job by keeping it
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  Speaker 2: like keeping it to something that you could digest and
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  Speaker 2: understand because it's something that has really happened or like
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  Speaker 2: incidents like that have happened with wild animals. But they
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  Speaker 2: didn't make it like super on the Nose. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: explain it out for you. You pretty much have to
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  Speaker 2: like follow the trail they left you the breadcrumbs. You
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  Speaker 2: gotta follow them along because and I appreciate that because
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  Speaker 2: sometimes again they will some directors just don't know how
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  Speaker 2: to do a metaphor and not just be like it's
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  Speaker 2: a metaphor. Did you get it?
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: So but other you know, on Nope, I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was a great movie.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, that's my favorite Peel thing so far,
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: because they've had to get out us and this. I
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: know some people are confused because they think he directed
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Candy Man, but he did not. He helped write and
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: produce it, but nia DaCosta did Candy Man, so all
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: the movies he's directed, the three movies he's directed, this
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  Speaker 1: is by like leaps and bounds, my favorite, if that's
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: even a fucking expression. I don't think it is. By
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  Speaker 1: far is my favorite. Again, though, I do want to
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: rewatch the other two, and we will be doing them
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: soon actually on the show, because I want to rewatch
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: them because I've only watched them both once. US and
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: Get Out. I've only seen them once and I wasn't
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: a fan of them, so I think I need to
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: go and retry it. And because yeah, this was fantastic,
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: by far my favorite of his movies.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to rewatch them too. I liked US.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: I remember liking US when it came out.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I got it like a three I think.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: But for me.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Those like I got distracted by the you gotta see
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: this movie, you know, and not really focus on the
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: deeper meetings behind it. Not that I didn't read them later,
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  Speaker 2: So I really do want to watch it to really
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  Speaker 2: like absorb the idea behind the film.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, nope, check it out for sure, let's see.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know I lost my momentum there because now
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to gain a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're going to go on to stuff that's coming
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: out soon.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Fine, we're gonna go out to stuff that's
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: coming out soon. Me and Michael will go over stuff
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: that's coming out this weekend. But a couple of things
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: that I saw that were announced by multiple things. Well,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: the first one is called Health of Darkness, and I
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: saw a trailer for this a couple days ago, and
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know how this slipped under the radar, but
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: this is a comedy horror mystery thriller with Justin Long
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: and Kate Kate Bosworth.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I saw something about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they start in this seductive thriller from director
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Neil labout The wicker Man, probably the remake, I assume,
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: which was not dark. Aquad driving home to her secluded
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: to state after meeting at a local bar, a player
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: out to score thinks his beautiful, mysterious day will be
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: another casual hookup. While getting acquainted, their flirtation turns playful,
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  Speaker 1: sexy and sinister. Hoping to get lucky. His luck may
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: have just run out. So corny, but I think their
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  Speaker 1: vampires or something. I don't know. It's got a weird
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: vibe going on, but there justin Long.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm in if it's vampires, just like
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: I want to see the invitation because that's vampires.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm mean, yeah, so I think so. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is apparently coming out September ninth this year. We've
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  Speaker 1: got Kate Bosworth as Mina, Ga Crove Eighten as Lucy. Okay, yeah,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: so this is just as vampires. We got Mina and Lucy. God,
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: absolutely vampires.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I love that. Now we have physical evidence that if
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: you're making a vampire movie, the most appropriate thing you
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: can do is to name one of your characters Lucy,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: so you acknowledge that the book Tracula exists, exists. There's
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: no other reason to do that except give them random
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Dracula character names, just so you know that we know
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  Speaker 2: that Dracula exists. Yeah, it's like it's like a secret
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: little knot. It's not that's really common information.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. And we're gonna talk about more Minas
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  Speaker 1: than Lucy's later, so a lot of them ties into
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: what we're doing today. But yeah, so that looks interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always down to see Justin Long do a horror movie,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: you know, Jeepers Crapers. He also did uh oh good,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Drag Me to Hell, and he did one recently called
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: The Wave. It wasn't really horror, but it was like
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like a thriller sci fi thing. So I'm
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: always a fan of Justin Long, so that should be fun.
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  Speaker 1: September ninth. I don't know if that's going to theaters
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  Speaker 1: or if that's going straight to vod All I know
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  Speaker 1: is September ninth, so be on the lookout for that.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: A movie called The Watcher, which is new for this year,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: is also coming to Shudder at some point soon, I
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: believe this month or next month. So that's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: That has extremely high ratings on the uh not socials.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: What am I trying to say, Letterbox, let's go with that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, what you're trying to say?
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. The Watcher not from twenty twenty twenty two.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know anyways. And then last, but not least,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: apparently we're getting another VHS this year, which is weird
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  Speaker 1: because it's not on IMDb or Letterbox. So but it
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: was announced by like Bloody Disgusting, dread Central, all of
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: the place where horror news comes from. Just no information
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  Speaker 1: on it. So I'm like, Okay, but this one's going
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: to be VHS ninety nine. Maybe this will feel more
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: like a fucking, you know, nineties vibes, because I didn't
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: get any from ninety four.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: That's what I was saying. I'm like, it's not like
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't like parts of it, but I felt like
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the wrap around thing didn't really It just seemed like
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: someone had an idea for a wrap around and they're like, oh,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: this is vaguely nineties ish good enough.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that was definitely the worst wrap around. Even
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I'd even say Virals was even better than that. At
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: least that wrap around kind of made sense. This one
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't executed very well. But the fucking shorts are
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: what I'm there for, and they were all I thought.
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  Speaker 1: They were all fantastic, So I kind of hope we
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: just get more nineties vibes from this because and I
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: did see a like a still from one of the.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: What nothing, go ahead?
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Oh you're just looking at me like I'm a weirdo.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I saw one of the stills and it's like an
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: old grandma lady with like two thousand glasses. So I'm
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: thinking one of them is gonna be taking place on
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: like New Year's Eve, going into the millennium, so that'd
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: be pretty cool. But yeah, you gotta give me like
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: actual more nineties vibes, because why say ninety four if
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna feel like it's from ninety four.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. Well, the wrap round isn't
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the most important part. If you're gonna do one, do
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: that shit, right, don't just phone it in on the
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: wrap round, because then that distracts from the uh actual
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: short film part. You know.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they could have just done four shorts honestly,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and that probably would have been better, you know, but
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? So that's coming
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: out ten to twenty of this year, which is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I did not, like I said, I did not expect
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: to a get another one and b have it be
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: so soon, and c have it also be set in
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the nineties. So yeah, nonetheless, we had a bunch of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: shit coming up that's super exciting. What else have we
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: watched that's horror movie wise? Besides, didn't we watch another
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: one new for this year recently? Right? I feel like
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like we did because I remember adding it
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to my list. Oh hatching. Oh yeah, my god, hatching.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Holy shit. We just watched that one recently because we
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: had heard about that ages ago. About you know, remember
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: when we did it at the beginning of the year
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: for What's to Come this year. We talked about how
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: she's gonna how she was gonna hatch it and stuff
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: like that. We were not right on that. Well, we
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: kind of were right with one of ours. But she
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: did not actually have to incubate it. She like put
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: it in a Teddy Bear somehow technically, Like I mean,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: like I said, she was a gymnast, and I thought
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: they were going to bring that into it, and you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: she was flexible, so she like sat on it. I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: don't know, But no, that did not come into play
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: No, the whole thing was a metaphor. It was I
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: think it was a metaphor. It was a little hard
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to like properly verbalize the metaphor, but it appeared to
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: be some sort of metaphor for the consequences of how
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: you raise your children, especially when you raise them in
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a dysfunctional family. Yeah, when you strive for perfection and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: your kids can't, asking for perfection from children is completely unreasonable.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Don't perfection from anybody, but especially children, But like, don't,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not perfect. No one's ever perfect, So like,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? Man?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: That's the one thing I love about the yoga class. Well,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like other things about our yoga classes,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: but is the fact that almost every class she says,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: it's a practice, not a perfect And it's nice to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: reinforce that idea that really, you shouldn't be aiming for perfection.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: You should be aiming for doing your best and ju
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: doing your best, not doing someone else's idea of your best.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And the whole thing seems to be because the movie
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: is like around a mom who's like a social media
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: mom and look how perfect our lives are. But really,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: when you get into it, one kid spoiled, the other
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: feel or feels like the need to be perfect and
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: is struggling to even have connections with kids her own
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: age because of the way she is raised by her mom,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like the level she is expected to achieve, like her
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: father's just absent, And yeah, like that that whole thing
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: is like a crazy metaphor for not being able to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: achieve that and the consequences of putting that on your kids.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have some wild imagery in that movie.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: It did some crazy, some crazy shit, really solid resolution too.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of like saw it coming,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but I'm not in that way. I knew, I knew
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: what had to happen. I just didn't know how they
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: were gonna get there. But it was fucking crazy. That's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a movie I definitely want to watch again because I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: feel like the first time was too. I was I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: was so taken back by like, whoa, this is a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: crazy movie to like actually further appreciate it. But uh,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it's definitely something i'd recommend. You can rent it on Amazon,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and apparently now you can watch it on Hulu. I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: told you, yeah it was. When I went to check
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it that one day, it said not available, so weird.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And then someone said, oh, it's streaming on Hulu a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: couple of days ago. And I looked and I was like, motherfucker,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: so it's on Hulu.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, do you force me to spend money
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: on it?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I didn't force you. I said, if
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you're gonna watch it, you're gonna spend the money because
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you told me it was on Hulu and it's not.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And it was. It's not my fault. They messed it
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: up one day.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So that's a definitely a good one that we'll recommend.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: But we should probably get into these movies because, like
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I said, we've got two to talk about and I've
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: got to do another segment with Mike. So are you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: ready to do this?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: What I thought I was going and then you started talking.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: To read this? Oh right, you gotta read this stuff.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: So we'll start with So we watched them. We knew
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: which one was gonna be worse, obviously Dracula three thousand,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: So we watched them in that order. We did Dracula
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: three thousand and then two thousand, but we're gonna review
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: them in order, from two thousand to three thousand, you know, yes, yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So let's start with Dracula two thousand. From two thousand
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: oddly enough, crazy I know, released on December twenty second
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: of that year, and the US fucking Merry Christmas to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you and this mediocre movie.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I like this movie. I mean, honestly, it's more of
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: a guilty pleasure than anything. Oh yeah, it's so weird.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I love putting it on.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: So rated our four mild sex and nudity, Severe violence
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and gore, moderate profanity, sixteen fucks, no alcohol, drugs and smoking,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and severe frightening and intense scenes. This has a runtime
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: of an hour and thirty nine minutes. Listed as an
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: action fantasy, horror thriller, fucking quadruple threat right there. Directed
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: by Patrick Lucier, who has thirteen directing credits. Also did
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Dracula two Ascension, which is the double feature that came
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: with Dracula two thousand and I was wondering why this
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: is why because he directed both of them, and then
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Dracula three Legacy, as well as White Noise two The Light. Yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and then two awesome movies, My Bloody of Valentine, the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: remake Flesh and Blood on Hulu, The End of the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Dark series and Trick, which I haven't seen, but it's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: got like kind of meh ratings.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: So it took a downturn, yeah, So.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And then it was written by a man named Joel
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Soisson who did the story and screenplay. He has twenty
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: five writing credits. Also did Mimic two, Dracula two Ascension,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Dracula three Legacy, Hollo Man two Children is the film
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Children of the Corn Genesis in Piranha three double.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: D I will only do sequels.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I will only do sequels, and really, really, really those
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: are all god awful sequels. I'm sorry, Joel Soissen. Those
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: are all just.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, just kind of have to comfortably assume this
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: was his best writing, yeah, which I gotta say, like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't hate the writing in this.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: One, so yeah, no, it's not. The writing wasn't terrible,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure I'm sure that you know, the writing
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: might not be bad in those movies. I'm just saying
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the overall quality of most of those are not great.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: But you know, I can't say anything on the writing
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: aspect because I haven't you know, yeah, I haven't seen
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the most of those in a long time. I haven't
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: seen Dracula three or I didn't even know Hollo Man
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: two existed. But you know, I can't imagine they're great
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: because I've seen the ratings on two of those. Then
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: we've got Patrick Lucia, the director as well. He did
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Story six, writing credits, Dracula two, Ascension, Dracula three, Legacy,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Go Figure, Terminator, Genesis, and Trick. Isn't Genesis the most
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: recent one with that crazy weird lady with the bowl cut?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: If I can keep track.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I know I can't keep track after three.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Give them names like that, not numbers. I have no idea.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember what three is. I know it's Terminator,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: then Terminator two, Judgment Day, and then Terminator three, what
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: like Rise of the Machines or something like that. And
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: that's not all my knowledge. Salvation's in there somewhere. Then
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: there's another one. I don't know what order they go in,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I think there's one more too.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know there's some other ones. Terminator two Fast to.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Terminating T two fast two, No, terminate, still terminating, Terminator three,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: still still terminating.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: The Terminatrix, Terminator four.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I'll be back anyways. Composed by Marco Beltromi one hundred
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and forty two composer credits. Also did this, and this
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: is where it gets interesting. Also did Scream one through four,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Mimic The Faculty, Resident, Evil Blade to hell Boy, Cursed,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Red Eye, Underworld, Evolution, The Eye, The Thing, twenty eleven,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Warm Bodies, Snow Piercer, The Shallows are Quie Plays one
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and two, Velvet Bustsall, and fear Street one through three.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Clearly, this is where I got sucked in, since they
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: named some of my favorite horror movies.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I know that's why. That's why this movie sounded so good.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, this movie's got a great score. Oh,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: that's fucking why. He's done nothing but goddamn amazing movies.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I can't think of one movie in there that I'm
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: like me. Yeah, and he.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Also worked a lot and knows how to compose.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: He also worked a lot with Wes Craven because I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: named quite a few of Wes's movies. Also, it is
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Wes's birthday today. He would have been eighty three, I believe,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: so shout out to Wes Craven and all the shit
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: he did.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Cinematography by Peter, not Pam, that's Peter Powell forty
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: nine cinematographer credits. Also did Bride of Chucky, Crouching Tiger,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Hidden Dragon, and Shoot him Up. That's pretty tight. And
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: let's get to the cast. Here we have Gerard Butler,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: who's completely unrecognizable to me as Dracula, probably because he's
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: so young.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: So young, completely like shaved, has.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: That long hair, razy long hair, beautiful maes gorgeous hair.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So he plays Dracula. Seventy acting credits which is all surprising.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I thought, I honestly thought he'd have more than that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: But he's been in things that you know like three
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: hundred is King Leonidas, Law Abiding Citizen as Clyde Shelton
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and How to Train Your Dragon Movies as Stoik Stowick
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Stoick Stick and We've Got Christopher Plumber That Man as
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Abraham van Helsing two hundred and seventeen acting credits. Also
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: in the Sound of Music as Captain George van Trum
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: von Trapp, A Beautiful Mind is Doctor Rosen and Remember
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: as Zev Gutman, which is a super super underrated A
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: twenty four movie. Very good, Yes, very good. Johnny Lee
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Miller as Simon Sheppard fifty seven acting credits. Also in
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Hackers as dade A on Flux as orin Good Child
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and Dexter Jordan is or Sorry and Dexter as Jordan's
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Days season five. I knew I recognize him from something.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: He's a baby.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So when it's your actors, you can put in, when
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: it's your shows, you can put them in, right, say
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: put them in for this show.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: You don't do it, yes I do. They started doing
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that again because I did it for a while, and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: then I stopped and you were like, oh, so I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: started doing it?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Is that bitch from Rain was in that one Halloween
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: movie you watched and you did not put her on there?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: They've been okay, well, you know, all right god and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: from Yeah, so Jordan Chase from season five of Dexter.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I know this guy.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And he's also apparently British in real life, which threw
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: me off.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's also an elementary. He has Charlotte Colmmes.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was weird seeing him as a baby.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: We've got Justin Wattle or Waydell as Mary Justine. Sorry,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Wattle's Mary Heller Van Helsing's seventeen acting credits nothing that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I've heard of, but most known for Target as Zoe,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: The Fall as Evelyn Nurse Evelyn, and Chaos as Detective
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Teddy Galloway.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: The Fall is that movie I want you to see
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: because it's the same director that did The Cell So
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of visuals and it's her and Lee Pace.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Got Lee Pace is you know one from Guardians at
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the Galaxy One guy. Yeah, yeah, So I really want
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you to watch that. That's a really good one.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, Vitamin C, which is a random singer singer from
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the nineties two thousands as Lucy Westerman who is twenty
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: six acting credits, also in Hair Spray as Ambervound Hussle,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and some other random small roles like the naked gun
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: two and a half in Scary Movie two. Last, but
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: absolutely certainly not least.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: What could you say stuff faster so I can't say
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: anything in between? Go ahead, I was gonna say what.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Vitamin C is best known for her song Graduation Friends Forever,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: but she was like a one hit wonder. She was
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: in this, and she was randomly in the movie Get
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Over It, and like, yeah, she just randomly shows up in.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Films, Yeah, she do. And then she also stood in
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: front of her own records at Virgin in the movie
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Virgin Records. Virgin Records. Yeah, it's kind of funny.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: That was hilarious.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And last but certainly not Les Jennifer as Posito as
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Selina sixty eight acting credits also and I Still Know
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: what you did. Last Summer's Nancy The Master of Disguise
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: as Jennifer Baker and Crash Asrio not the David Cronenberg one.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: The other weird one.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this ad an estimated budget of fifty four million dollars,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: bringing in forty seven point one so definitely not that great.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But hey, you almost made your money back. Filmed in Toronto,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and I don't think that's right. Toronto and Orano, Ontario, Canada,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and the New Orleans, Louisiana and London, England. You can
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: watch this on Paramount Plus or a three ninety nine
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: rental or twelve ninety nine purchase on Amazon and movies
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that came out around the same time. One hundred and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: one Dalmatians. I guess that would.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Be the last live action one.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I think that cartoon one was like the sixties or something.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Are you double checking it's absolutely the live action move on, No.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not double checking that. I was gonna pull out
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: my list for a specific horror moment. One hundred one Animations, Unbreakable,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Vertical Limit.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Classic That is a classic, Chacko Lah, The Emperor's New Groove,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Dude Wears My Car, The Gift, cast Away, Miscongeniality, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: O Brother, Where Art Thou should?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I've seen all of those.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of goods stuff.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Except I've only seen parts of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: because I didn't get on that train, mostly because I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: was ten.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I never saw that one either, Yeah, mostly probably because
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I was ten.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I've seen House of Flying Daggers. I like that one.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like i'd get more of it now. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: feel like those deserve us. Give us a chance to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: watch those and really see if we know what the
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: hell they're talking about.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've seen the rest of them.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same except for Chocolat specific horror moments. What did
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you have for that?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, there's so many to pick from, but I
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: really I think you're the one that you picked. I'm
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: assuming it's the one you picked is the same as mine.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know the thing which I there's.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: A couple got the bit with the leech, Yeah, just
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: say it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bit where one of the characters Get
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: is trying to brilliantly pry a leech off of body
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: in with a crowbar, and then it basically smacks him
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: right in the face and immediately attaches. We're not going
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: to think about how that physics doesn't work out, because
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: that was super fun to watch him just be like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: ah shit, and then he has to like pull it off.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Same, uh favorite kill Ooh this is probably should
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: write these down, you know before.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: You well you usually say yours first.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You don't, Fine, fine, fine, I'll say mine first. God
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: mine was the beheading into the trash can. It was
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like so perfect, just like Kobe nailed it, Like wow.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: That was great.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I liked when what's your face died with the head
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: with the shears the garden. There was a lot of beheading.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: It was like three r.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that because she was just like it
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: was a moment where it was a character and the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: girl he had a crush on and she's like trying
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: to kill him and he's like I got the clippers
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: around her neck and she's like Simon, I really think that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: He's like you better make this good whatever you're about
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: to say, and then snip snip snap.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah good times. Okay, so you oh you just did it?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Sorry random or sorry? Favorite character. My favorite character was
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the random Nathan Fillion cameo. That was awesome, came out
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: of nowhere. I was like, hey, he's a priest in
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: this cool. That was my favorite character.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. I really think that. I
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: like the brides, Yeah, is it like a group because
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: they were all very weird but cohesive, So I just
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: enjoyed them.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: That's fair, your favorite let's see, I have them differently here.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Least favorite character. I didn't really have a least favorite character.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't really like, just dislike anybody.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: So I left that blank because I wasn't like you,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: fuck you, you're the worst.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I can think of one actor that I don't like
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: out of there, but not a character.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite line?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Uh no, but there This movie is riddled with gems.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like cheesy gems, like when a vitamin says
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you had him in your dreams every night and you
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: didn't share, Like what, yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: My favorite one? I wrote down, Well, I had one,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: but then I replaced it with this was when I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: think it's Racula was like, I was named after this person.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: She was like, I was named after the Peanuts character
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Lucas fucking lost my shit. That was oh so just
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: goddamn perfect. Just the way she said it too, with
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: like her you know, her pitch and everything. I was like,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that's fucking beautiful.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's utter. The other reason I like the Brides
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: because they were just winging out the silliest lines, Like
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: one of them says something that sounds like I want
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to fuck, but what she says is she like it
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: implies that that's what she's about to say, and then
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: she says I want to suck.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Oh boy. Yeah, a lot of good cheesy lines IMDb
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: summary real quick. Before she gets into this is a
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: group of thieves breaks into a chamber expecting to find paintings,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: but instead they find oh, they released the Count himself,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: who travels to New Orleans to find a nemesis's daughter,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Mary van Helsing.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so this film opens up with the death
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: of everyone on the ship. So if you know anything
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: about Dracula, Dracula Leave Transylvania comes to England via the
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Demeter really helped that. Both of these films felt compelled
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to remind us all of the names of Dracula related
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: stuff because it really helps you remember it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Both movies had a Demeter in it. Yeah, yep.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: So in the book, he's on the ship getting transported
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: and then like the whole crew is dead by the
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: end of it. So it opens up on that kind
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: of thing and some very beautiful uh, singing, chanting, very
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: gladiator esque, and it's a story about like him having
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: killed all of these people on his way to England.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: You see him walking down a road in England and
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: kind of talking about how he's just been wandering alone,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: never finding his place, blah blah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And then it cuts over to Carfax, Abby where they
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: have a man whose name is Van Helsing and he
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: is the great great great grandson of the Van Helsing
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: talking to his buddy Simon, who is his Like what
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: did you call him? Like his protege with that yeah, uh,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And they're kind of talking about this crossbow and he's like, yeah,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: this thing is I see why they didn't make many
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: of this crossbow because like this thing is way heavier
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: and bulkier than what they were making in England at
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the time, because it's from somewhere in eastern Europe. And
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh yeah, because it wasn't meant for shooting wood.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: It was meant for shooting metal. And he's like what,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and then they get interrupted by Rita, is it? Rita?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know you name?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: You should know this.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I don't memorize every character's name.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And you didn't know that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: That's not one of my saying I don't think there
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: is a RITA. I don't know Selena there. We go, sure, yeah, Selena,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and she also works there, and they're just kind of
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: signing off on papers. Simon attempts to hit on her
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: some more and she's like, nah, I don't date co
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: work causin go goes. You didn't know that rule last bnth.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: She's like, I made it for you. Yeah, you're the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: problem buddy. But so then he leaves, and while he leaves,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: we see Van Helsing drawing blood out of leeches and
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: injecting them into his arm, which is covered in track marks. Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: but you see his eyes turn red and his vision
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: go clear, so you can tell something's up with him.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And while this is happening, an unsuspecting police officer arrives
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: at their antiquities. It's it's an antiquities like their art dealers.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: He arrives, talks to the security guards and like, oh,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I had heard you had a security problem and they're
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: like no, He goes, you do now and then tases
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: that suff of bit's right on the neck ow And
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: then we get to go into a fun little heist scene.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: There are several many guys. Feel free to count them
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: because I don't remember. There's some guys. There's a group
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of guys and they break into the mainframe type on
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: the keyboard a lot to some very key like I'm
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: breaking into a computer music, which very tooth, very matrixy,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: which is hilarious because nothing else sounds like that the
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: rest of the film. They literally only do it for
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the computer scene. Do Do Do.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Do Do Do? Like I said, it's very very matrix style.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: When they're like walking into the bank or whatever and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: they have all those guns on them and they go.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Through the usually the worst part of the score because
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: it's just like so out of place with the rest
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of the music. And he's like, why yeah, oh, because
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: they're on a computer. Of course.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Oh you can thank Marco Beltrami for that, because he
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: killed it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah he really got into it, Yeah he did. So
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: they break into it is a giant safe downstairs, which
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: leads into a series of creepy tunnels. Then Selena wanders
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: her happy ass down the stairs, notices things seem a
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: little weird, goes down there, finds the guys. Oh shit,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: she's in on the heist.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Bomb Bomb Bob and good.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: God, she is mean, Like she is just bossy as shit,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: and I appreciate the Uh I'm not gonna be pushed around.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I know my shit attitude, but damn she is mean. Yeah,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I don't hate it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: So they break in there and there she's like, well,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: what did you find it? Like all we found is
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: like candlesticks and books and trinkets and bullshit. And she's like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you don't build security like this to hide nothing. We're
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: going to figure out what is here. And they finally
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: get to a point where they get into a room
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: with a big metal coffin and they're like, everyone's like,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: what the fuck is this? They're really uncomfortable, they're really
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: freaked out. They don't want to do anything, and they're like, no,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: the brilliant plan, which I still haven't worked out the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: logistics of how this makes sense and how they justify this.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: So they're like, yeah, why would you do all this
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: creepy shit and hide all your money in a safe
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: when you could hide it in a coffin? Like sure, yeah,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: let's go with that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: It's metal as fuck. I would I would do that
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: if I had that much money. I wouldn't need to safe.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I'd just get a boss coffin and just had all
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: of my money in there.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: But considering that we know that grave robbing is a
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: totally normal thing, especially in that places New Orleans, where
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: at the graves are on pul of ground, the fact
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: that they're like, no one would actually break into a grave.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: False, yeah, false false false? Not a great deterrent, No,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: not really.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: So they get one of the guys to try to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: open the safe. He can't open it, but he does
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: notice a seam and that's when he tries to push
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the top, pushes the whole thing off the stand it's on,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: which leads to him being crushed from spikes from the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: ceiling and a trap door swinging down from the uh
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: where they came in the entrance that spikes another guy
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: like head to back, all of it. It was really fun.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Nice little booby came out of nowhere. Got a love
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a booby trap, very Indiana Jones.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I mean they should have seen that shit coming though,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: based on everything else in there, I can't believe their
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: first thought wasn't are there booby traps?
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Because that's what I would have just want the money.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: They're not they're not focused on that. Their minds are elsewhere.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well now they're down a few guys, just a few, yeah,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: and they need to break out. They finally bust a
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: hole through the wall into the tunnels and they're like,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: oh shit, we gotta like, we gotta go because security's
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: gonna be here. No way, No one heard that. Ye,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Van Helsing knows what's going on or figured out what's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: You heard the alarm or some shit going off.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, triggered the alarm. So he go. He gets a
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: gun with a big metal rod bullet and starts chugging
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: trekking down to the safe and two of the guys
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: are like, we're gonna leave, fuck this, and and Selena
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: is like, the fuck you are. We're taking that coffin
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: with us at gunpoint. So I appreciate that boss bitch energy.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: So then we cut over to uh there on a plane.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the plane in a second.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: But in the meantime, Simon is comeback. He's talking to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Van Helsing. Van Helsing's giving him some bullshit about people
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: robbed him of some stuff and he's like some worthless crap.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: He's like, well, then why aren't we calling the cops.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm just gonna handle it myself.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And he's like, what, yeah, must be not important if
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: you want to go.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: So Van Helsing is on the move to recover this coffin,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and in the meantime, we get flashes of a masked
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: figure inside the coffin and a and a girl and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: her screaming and him like it just flickers back and
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: forth between them, and we are introduced to Mary, Mary
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: has apparently been traumatizing dreams for years. Yeah, and Mary
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: has is living in the house of her mother, who
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: has died, but used to uproot her from place to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: place with no explanation, but finally settled in New Orleans,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: where she also lives again in the house of her mother,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: with her bff Lucy Vitamin C. And so they're just
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: kind of having talks about like this this dream, why
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: she keeps having it, and Lucy so thoughtfully and with
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: all her feminist energy, says, maybe you'd stop dreaming about
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: this man if you were banging somebody. Like Okay, She's like, oh,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't have said these kind of dreams if
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: you actually had a man in your bed. Like, damn, Lucy,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: she real quick with the roasting, right, And I do
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: like that They kind of mentioned that Mary at some
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: point had a more wild streak, but she since kind
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of like these dreams have kind of made her just
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: kind of struggle more so she's not like she used
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to be. And then they work at Virgin Records, because
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing Virgin Records.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: The good God, I mean seriously, was like how much
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: did they pay you to put like everything.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Three or four scene set in the record store.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: It just felt like a huge plug for Virgin And
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: now people watching this movie now, you know, like younger
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: kids if they ever watch it, or like what is
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: what is that? Virgin? Well, I don't even know who
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: is that? Like, yeah, that used to be a place
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: that used to be one of Downtown Disney that closed
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: down a while ago, because.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah it's a buying out there.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Used to be a huge one there that's not in
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: there anymore. And now they just strictly do cruises and
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: airlines I.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Guess, yeah, travel, so so weird.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like a huge plug for Virgin Records.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: It's hilariously large plug.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they're doing that they're working. We're back to
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the plane. On the plane, they are still trying to
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: figure out how the fuck to get into this coffin.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: And what we have really learned is there's only one
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: way to get into a coffin, and it's to try
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to wedge a crowbar into it, which will immediately result
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: in you slicing your hand open, because that's a dumb plan. Yeah,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: so one of the guys does that. Oh I should
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: say that when one of the guys bleeds in the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: booby trap sequence, the blood disappeared into the coffin.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: It gets like that. I clearly did a reverse shot.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Which looked cool.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which looked cool.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: He did some random reverse shots in this film.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it just went right into the little under
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the crucifer, under the little cross. Yeah, into the coffin.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And then again, uh, one of the guys cuts his
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: hand trying to get it open, and then the blood.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Goes from that seventy show.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: It is not Fez, it is hide Hide.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry that one. Yeah, guy with the curly hair.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Danny Masterson, that guy. We don't like him anymore,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: no I know. So, so yeah, they're like, okay, well,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: we can't get into this, and Selena is like, fucking
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: figure it out, super super helpful and support of She's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: literally like, well, you're gonna figure it out. He got
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: stuff into it, he has to get stuff out of it,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: and uh. Then they get left to their own devices
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: for a bit. Two of the guys, one of them
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: goes up to the front of the plane to speak
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: to everybody else because it's a cargo plane where there's
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a door and then there are seats in the front.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: So at this point Danny Masterson's character is the only
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: one back there with the coffin. Uh, he can't get
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: into it. He's getting annoyed. He kind of sits down
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: and he notices there's some smoke rolling out, which, weirdly enough,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: he does not seem to notice right away, even though
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of it, like someone shooting a bunch
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: of smoke machines through the coffin, so that that was aggressive.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Uh So then he uh turns around finally notices the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: smoke and notices there's some smoke coming out of one
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: of the crosses. Then he decides to try to turn it,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: which again I think this is weird because that's one
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: of the first things I would have tried the four
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: metal bits on the top. Wonder if those turn Nobody
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: thought to try that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Not everyone's fricking Gabrielle Proctor.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: All right, God, that's for damn sure. So he gets
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: it open. It's filled with smoke as well, and then
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: he starts noticing the leeches. This is where he gets
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: leeched in the face. And while he's in the middle
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: of that, he stupidly removes a cross he sees in there,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: because it's a body covered in leeches with a metal
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: mask on it. He removes a cross and then the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: body shoots up and eats him in the face. It
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool, Yeah, it was pretty fun.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Some like not too bad cg you know, like some
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: pretty decently okaygull so better than three thousand, which we'll
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: get to.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, So then they uh, one of the other
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: guys goes back for him. He gets got uh and
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: then uh Dracula makes his way to the front of
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the plane, where he opens the door and dramatically, the
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: oldness wooshes off of him like a puff of smoke,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: and suddenly he's not old guy. He's druid butler.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: He's a gorgeous guy.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Here's just like, damn, that was fast, too attractive. Yeah,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: we talked about it though. This is kind of different though,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: because a lot of Dracula films they don't really put
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: much energy into making him look sexy or attractive. They
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: just kind of make him work look otherworldly or nailed.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Like this was like a modern day setting. You slap
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: him in modern day setting, he's still attractive. Not Oh
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: if this were nineteen forty, he'd be attractive nineteen fifty. Yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: so it's a plane. Oh so, speaking of planes, he
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: bites Selena bites her boyfriend, who is one of the guys,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: and then the plane goes kabluey. Well, it crashes into a.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Swamp and not really more like a swampy.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Which this news story is exactly how Van Helsing figures
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: out that he's got to go to New Orleans and
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: it's a town next to New Orleans that this plane
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: has crashed.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Convenient.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And while the plane is crashing, there is a
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: really cool moment where Mary has kind of connected with Dracula,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: like they're seeing each.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Other very much like uh Last Jedi where Kylo w
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Ren and Ray have that like forced talk thing. And
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I said that bet you they probably got that from
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: this because that was very reminiscent of what happened in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: this movie.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and it's only broken when her roommate Lucy
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: walks in and there's a really fun shot of her
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: walking through Dracula and again puff of smoky disappears.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: That was really cool. That's what I'm saying though, that
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: that was actually a really good example of like some CG.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: That was pretty cool for you know, two thousand and
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: four because back in the.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Day they would have just had to walk through a
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: really sad CG version of him or something.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: And it was really It's done really well. So there's
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of good elements to this movie, you know
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: what I mean. As silly as it was, there was
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: still a lot of good.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: That a lot of good and he took it seriously,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: but not too seriously.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They just played it straight, you know what I mean.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: They did. They came there, they did their job. They
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: weren't trying to overdo it or lean too hard into
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it much unlike the other movie we'll talk about.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Which is good because even when they said their funny lines,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: they were still playing it straight. So it wasn't like
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: pluff it wasn't like a groan. It was just like, God,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: they can't believe they said something that.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like it's like dad jokes. You're like
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: it's funny, but it's like so stupid.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, I must be this up a little bit. Yeah,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Mary's having some problems with this. She even goes to
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: uh she she books out of work at one point.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: She I mean, she's struggling. She even goes to church
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: where she sees Nathan Fillion who is her priest Samesias,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: and tries to talk to him, tries to see if
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: maybe he can tell her what her mom used to
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: talk about in confession, to maybe put some pieces together,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: because she wants to know why exactly she kept getting
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: moved around because she feels like this connects to her
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: dad and her mom. Van Helsing and Simon, who can't
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: listen to directions when he was told to stay back.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Simon follows Van Helsing to the town hall where all
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the bodies from the plane crash are being kept, well
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: those are being kept there. They get into a altercation
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: with all the undead people in there, resulting in them
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: having to leave because they couldn't get them all, they
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: only got one of the guys and Selena getting captured
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: by the pol We also have a news reporter who
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: is recording or doing a newscast at the scene of
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: the plane crash. Who uh, Dracula politely turns after she's
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: done he's done murderating the cameraman, which I really like
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: that shot when the camera is on her and she
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: her neck just kind of pulls to the side and
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: her neck starts bleeding, and then he opens his eyes
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: and sees Dracula. Because you can't pick him up on camera.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: That to me was always a really cool shot or
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: a way they did that, like the camera, remember, because
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Dracula wasn't picked up on the camera.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I remember asking you about that. I
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: was like, wait a second, so that doesn't make sense.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: They can't be picked up on cameras. I'm like, how
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: does what we do in the Shadows work? And I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: guess you know you said that the just different lore,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and it's like, I love how different the vampires can be,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: but it's just not consistent enough for me because everything's
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: different in every universe. So I'm taking rules I know
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: in other universes and I'm like, oh, that's right. This
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: is different in this one. So it's always fucking hard
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: to keep with vampires.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: But that's what's fun for me because I agree because
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: you never know quite what you're gonna get with a
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: vampire movie, which is probably why I enjoy them so much.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: There's always a lot of room to work.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Uh, but you have to just kind of be expected
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: to roll with it, like like that one, like Okay,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: you can't see him in cameras, but you know, so
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: it's like okay, you know, you have to just be
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: like do you have to like adapt to every situation
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: with vampires? Like okay, in this universe this is like this,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it gets kind of frustrating, but it is
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: pretty cool that they can do, you know, whatever you want.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So at this point, Selena's been in jail, is
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: now in jail getting interrogated. Dracula's kind of wandering around
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: New Orleans like totally mesmerized by everything because he's been
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: trapped for hundreds of years, so all of this stuff
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: is shiny and new and interesting.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah it is.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And he goes and breaks Selena out, which was super fun. Uh. Yeah,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and he is now on the hunt for Mary van
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Helsing and Simon are on the hunt for Mary. Basically,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: everyone's looking for Mary, and Mary's had a freak out
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: at work and she's left. He goes to her work
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: to find her. She's not there, but a roommate, Lucy
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: is Lucy, who, like every other girl in the Virgin
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Record store, immediately like turns around.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: It.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: It is like heaving over like just like over Dracula.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Every girl in the store, like they're practically snapping their necks.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: They're whiping their heads around so hard. And I get it,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I mean really, I get it. He looked real good
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: in this film.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I understand.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Lucy he recognizes from that time she walked
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: through his uh spirit psychic version of himself. He recognizes
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: her from that moment, and he is like, ah good.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: The roommate, He's like, oh, I'm looking for Mary, and
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: she's like, oh no, Mary isn't here. And then he
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: flirts with her and calls her beautiful. So she takes
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: him home like you do.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Like you do, worked on you bullshit. I'm teasing.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I'm teasing, and he uh takes her home. They do it, and.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like almost immediately insane.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: He has no patience, but he's got like he's got
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: stuff to do. Okay, So that yeah, and so he
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: turns her. Mary comes home. She is, uh, what was that?
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Thunder? Thunder?
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, Mary comes home. I'm getting lost in the middle
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: here now, like the distractions are making me lose the middle.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Well, you better figure it out because I don't fucking know.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Well I'm trying. Okay. So Mary finally comes home. Oh no, wait,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I take that back. I know, I got it, I
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: got it. Simon goes to the record store to look
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: for her, and her dad goes to the house to
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: look for her her address. So Van Helsing gets to
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: said house, gets a nice little meet and greet with Dracula.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: They get to catch up, like, hey, how you been
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: and trapped? How about you? And Dracula basically says, hey,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: it's kind of bullshit that you were using my blood
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: to keep alive all this time, and thanks to you
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: because you did that and you got your wife pregnant
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: while you had my blood in your system. That means
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: your daughter is also blood relation to me in a
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: weird way, which makes her mind and he's like, no,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: she's not yours. He's like she's the only one on
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: this planet that has my blood too, so she is
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: and uh, then I believe Mary bumps into what's his face,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: but then ditches him Simon. Oh yeah, she runs off
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: from Simon. When Simon tries to talk to her, Simon
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: gets attacked by one of the other vampires. That's when
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: he decapitates that guy. And when Mary runs home, she
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: unfortunately finds the body of her father, who got killed
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: off screen, probably because Christopher Plummer was old.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Then no, they Dracula kills Van Helson by throwing him
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: into the mirror.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Remember the pull through his throat? Okay, yeah, And then
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: she has a very delightful moment where Lucy decides to
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: terrorize her for no apparent reason while she's finding the
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: body of her dead father. Then she gets to meet
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: all of the brides, who were all super petty and
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: jealous that Dragula wants her, and they're like why does
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: he even One of them's like why does he even
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: want you? And she's like, I know why because the
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: blood And she's like, oh yes, the essence, Like sorry,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: your dad wasn't filled with Dracula blood when you got
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: your mom got pregnant, like I really So she has
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: this really creepy scene with all the brides and two
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: of them are climbing on the walls, which is super fun,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: and then she sees Dracula freaks out. He starts running
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: at her in the most hilarious way possible because he
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: does these crazy long arm swings. At first, you're like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: is he gonna go full run with these crazy like
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: noodle arms, But it turns out it's because he's turning
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: into a wolf, so that makes much more sense. She
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: hauls ass out of the house into the arms of Simon,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: who then shoots at Dracula, and uh yeah. At that
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: point she has to She and Simon have to figure
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: out how to stop him. Unfortunately, in the midst of
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to stop them, because they
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: established that though Van Helsing has tried over many years,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: they've never figured out how to actually kill him. Even
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: though other vampires have specific ways, these don't work on him.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: She and Simon go to the library to try to
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: sort this shit out, which is unfortunately the exact moment
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: that she gets kidnapped, and she has to figure out
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: what she wants to do because Dracula is, you know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: going to tell her why exactly he's once or anyway,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: and Simon has to figure out how to save her
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: but ump bump. It's super fun though. I gotta say, though,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy the what I told you is like
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: kind of the twist ending, like you really get to
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: figure out who Dracula is. And I thought that was
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: a really cool idea and I like how they did it.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Bonus points for that because they give you a reason
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: why Dracula is not a fan of certain things, and
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: it kind of brings new light to just vampires as
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: a whole honestly, Yeah, what I mean for like the
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: whole genre. You're like interesting, I've never been explained that before,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: or that at least I can think of.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not just like, oh it got bit
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: by a bat. There's like a developed war that they
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: created for this film.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and who Dracula actually is right, as I said,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Dracula too. They they actually reveal that Dracula also as
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: was also known by someone else at some point and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: it goes way back and it's it's really cool, So
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: like huge bonus points for that. It was a little cheesy,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: It was a little for me, it was a little slow,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: and I was kind of I don't know, I was
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: slightly bored for like the middle part. But once they
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: once they said the reasoning for all that stuff, I like,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I like sat up in my chair. I was like, Okay,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I'm into this ship. Now this is interesting. And then
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the ending was was pretty solid as well. But yeah,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I gave this a two point five with a heart
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: because I didn't think it was necessarily a good movie.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: But I didn't necessarily think it was bad, just kind
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: of middle of the road. I'd watch it again.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Like I said, this one's a guilty pleasure one.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: It's esthetically pleasing, Like they clearly had some two thousands,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: like let's see how many attractive people we can jam
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: into this cast. Everyone was very pretty. The clothes were simple. Honestly,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: my least favorite thing about this whole movie is Mary's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: outfit for the final scene. It's so very much I'm
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: going to get lunch. I'm like, I'm running an errand
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: and they could have put her in something cool, and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: they were like, nah, the clothes she's been wearing the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: whole film, this platform slip on shoes, you know, fucking
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: capri pants, tank top and sweater.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: It was the two thousands.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: It was rough considering what the wardrobe all the other
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: girls got.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: What would you give it though?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: I would give it like a three three. Yeah, it's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: just fun to watch. Though.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Here are some of my thoughts from the movie real quick.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: These are just random things I wrote down. Apparently breaking
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: into coffins with crowbars is like a common thing, which
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: we'll get into here in a second. I really love
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: that the town just kept those four dead bodies in
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: town hall, No coolers, no nothing, just fucking four dead
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: bodies and body bags in the gymnasium or wherever the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: fuck they were. That was great.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: But the sheer number of cops, yeah, they showed up
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: later Like you don't have a morg, but you have
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: this many.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have a more, but you've got this
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: many cops in this town whatever. Jennifer Esposito floating around
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: in that one scene was fucking hilarious, just like but like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: just like I'm a vam. I'm just gonna float because
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: that can.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: You Like, It's like she was constantly swinging at a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: forty five degree angle.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: It was fucking great. And then I loved how Lucy
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: just leads a fucking complete stranger to her house who's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: not even looking for her, but looking for her friend.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: That's not what you do. I know he's attractive and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, but like, you don't just lead a
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: random stray man to your fucking to where you live.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: You too if he looks like Gerard? Yeah, I guess
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: so this movie specifically, those are my.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on that. Some Okay, here we go some taglines here.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: We've got the most seductive evil of all time has
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: now been unleashed in hours. What that didn't make sense?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: The most deductive evil of all time has now been unleashed.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: In hours in our time.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Jesus, nineteenth century chills terrify the twenty first century.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, they kind of phoned it in the taglines Trivia.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: The line and the film with Johnny Miller playing Simon
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Shepherd says, never ever fuck with an antiquestealer was a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: line the actor would say on set as a joke.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: The director liked it. It incorporated it into this scene
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that tracks. Yeah, yep, Dracula says I don't drink dot
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: dot dot coffee, and one seeing this as a spoof
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: of I never drink dot dot dot wine from Dracula
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty one, hilarious. The name of Van Helsing's antique business,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Carfax Abbey, is also the name the name of house
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Dracula wait is a house is also the name of house.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: The house also the name of house. That's what it says,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: also the name of house.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I'm helping you figure out the sentence shut.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: It also the name of the house Dracula moves into
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: in Brownstoker Dracula, Dracula's whatever I can't fucking read.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Today Bromstoker's Dracula is a fine way to say it.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: The character Lucy Westerman's name is a reference to the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: character Lucy Westerna from Bromstoker's book. She is in the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: movie as in the book, the best friend of the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: main character Mina slash Mary Oh Mina book slash Mary
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: movie goofs. There's a crucifix in the coffin, and others
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: on the lead keep Dracula and pridging, Yet at a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: later time a larger illuminated across there is no effect
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: on him.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: True. When Dracula throw a signmon across the room in
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the library, you can see the cable attached him. I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: pointed that out to you. I was like, ah, there
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: he goes yep, seeing that Van Helsing's office building is
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: in London. But security guards on duty are armed. Security
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: guards in England cannot carry handguns. It is actually illegal
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: in the UK. So you know, even security guards can't
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: have those, much less carry them about. So yeah, that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: would not be a thing in the UK.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Apparently, so they have stronger gunless Yeah they do.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Uh. The sidewalk that Mary lands on near the end
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: of the film visibly vibrates when she hits it. It's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: very obvious. It's quite funny. Four point nine added ten
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: on nine dB, two point one out of five on letterbox.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: And you said what I said it three. But like
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: I said, it's a guilty pleasure. It's it's fun to watch.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not like saying it's my favorite, but you know
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I love a vampire film, and as a vampire film,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: this is a great vampire movie.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: That's true. You're not wrong. I definitely watch it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Actually, when Dracula films come into play, like this is
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: my like one of my top Dracula films. Oh wow,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: think of the other ones we've watched.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I know, brom Circus Racula was not that great at all.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: I'd rather watch this.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I would rather watch that too. Sorry Francis Ford Coppola,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: but I'm not sorry. So long, so long, and so horny, god,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: so so horny, just like American horror sorty.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: We had the right amount of horniness too, like the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: characters are all attractive. There was a little bit of horniness,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't like all vampires do is bang all
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: day long American horror story hotel.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. So without further ado, let's get on
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: to the gem of the hour. Oh, I would recommend
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: the other one watching. I know doesn't have great ratings,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: but I mean, like I said, you know, it's it's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: just fun. If you can kind of just turn your
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: brain off and have fun, it's it's pretty decent. You know.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: That's all that matters.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: So moving on to Dracula three thousand from two thousand
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: and four, released on August ninth of that year in
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: the US. Rated R for mild sex and nudity, moderate
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: violence and gore, moderate profanity, ten fucks, mild alcohol, drugs
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and smoking, and mild frightening and intense scenes. Thank god
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: this only had a run time of an hour and
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: twenty six minutes. Couldn't take another second of that movie.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: It was pretty painful. Listed as a horror sci fi
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: directed by a man named Darryl Ruditt Rodt.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Who shouldn't be in charge of things.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: He has fifty directing credits for nothing that I recognize,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: but is most known for Yesterday from two thousand and four,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: or not the recent one with the Beatle thing going on.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: No, but that would have been a really impressive turnaround
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: if it was. Though.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Truer Grand and Dangerous Ground, So you did it? Written
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: by even Millerborough, who has four writing credits with this
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: being his quote unquote biggest movie, and Darryl rooted the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: director as well twenty six credits. Also did Truer Ground
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: and Dangerous Ground or Truer Grand.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: What we're getting is these people like to use the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Buddy system.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Buddy, what are you barking at? Stop? Barkin's just Thunder
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: composed by Michael Hoenig. Hoenig, I don't know, that's a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: weird last name, who has thirty three composer credits and
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: also did the Gait and the Blob. Dracula three thousand
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: was his last composer credit.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Yikes.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a note to end on.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yes. Cinematography by Julio Bacari, who has sixty two cinematographer credits,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: did a whole bunch of TV shows and is most
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: known for Forgiveness, Black Butterflies and The Journey is the Destination.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I think you're just making up titles because I very
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: well could be one.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Nope, Nope, all right, let's get to this cast, because
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: boy who starring Casper Van Deen as Captain Abraham van
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Helsing one hundred and fifty three acting credits. Also in
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Star Trip, Starship Troopers as Johnny Rico, Sleepy Hollow as
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: brom van Brunt, and Alita battle Angel as a.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Muck, easily the most recognizable for Starship Troopers. So because
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: that is a cult classic.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: We've got Erica Eleniak as Aurora Ash fifty eight acting credits.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Also in The Blob as Vicky DeSoto, The Beverly Hillbillies
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: as Ellie May Clampett and Bordello of Blood Tales from
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: the Crip Presents or whatever it is as Catherine Verdue
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: for Joe.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Also the girl that Elliott kisses in Et, the Blonde
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Girl in The Science SiGe.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, Yeah, then we've got but the man himself,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Coolio is one eight seven somehow has somehow has one
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: hundred and acting four acting credits, one hundred and four
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: acting credits, and he was also in Daredevil as Dante Jackson.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much it.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Everything else is like you know who Coolio is unless
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: you live under a rock and don't like good songs
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: or you're super the one good song.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Then, last, but not least, we've got Alexandra camps Mina
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Murray who has forty five acting credits and nothing else
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: that I heard of, but was most famous for suom
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Uru as suom Uru. Oh, and this.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Movie I demand and we talked about this while we
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: were watching this. I demand an explanation because I'm sure
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: you'll explain the whole weird in charge of this film.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: But this character is supposed to be an intern bitches
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: in her forty I.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Was gonna get to that. You told me to write
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: it down.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, go ahead, I'll wait for you.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: We'll just scrap that from the record. Probably okay, just
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: made a budget of question Mark worldwide box office gross
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: of question Mark, probably because they don't want to release
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: that information. It's probably gonna be upsetting. Apparently this was
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: filmed in South Africa, according to IMDb, so there's that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: You can watch this on Amazon for a three ninety
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: nine rental or five ninety nine purchase. I found the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: DVD on eBay as it was hard to find because
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I guess it's like out of print or something, for
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: eight dollars. On it was eleven dollars and the seller
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: was like, I'll give you three dollars off.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, sold, let me tell you.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Don't worthworth every penny.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Don't rent It's not worth a penny.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: It's worth every penny. Movies that came out around the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: same time include, but are not limited to, Anchor Man,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: The Legend of Ron Burgundy, I Robot, The Born Supremacy,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Jew On the Grudge, Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: fucking goddamn classic film, The Village AVP and Without a Paddle,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: that one movie everyone forgot about but is actually pretty
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: funny on those which one.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Jew on the Grudge.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: You haven't seen the original original Grudge?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't really care to. Oh you know what,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: maybe you and I watched it. I might have seen it, okay,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: so I might have seen all of.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: These specific horror moments. Go is it me? Yeah, all right,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: pool cue de mina. That was fucking awesome.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say that's the best effect they
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: had in the film.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Favorite kill that one one eight seven with the pool
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: stick because I fucking hated him so much. It was
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: time for him to go.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: The film was time to go.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, favorite character. None of them, not.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: A single person, not one character.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Not one character was likable, not one. Lee's favorite one
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: eight seven, Yeah, specifically one eight seven. Favorite line. I've
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: got uh four of them?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Oh boy?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, first one call in regards to the little metal cross,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: it's a metal plus sign. He must have been into mathematics.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Great spikes Transylvania. Where the fuck is Transylvania? So stupid?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Take that back? Or I will blow that anaconda all
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: over the ceiling. And ain't that a bummer? Hummer?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Um, It's so bad. It's so stupid. Considering they were
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: saying shit that would be like current slang or things
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: to say, but then they'd be like totally oblivious to
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: other stuff, like the one actress or the one character
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: at one point says Who's God? Because you know, crucifixes
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: are illegal or whatever. She's just who's God. But then
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: later go later on goes, I'm not the Bionic Woman,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: so you get nineteen seventies television. But god, we don't
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: know about I mean, it's one of those things seems
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: like it's stand the test of time. It's not the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Bionic Woman's tell me how.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: You really feel it is stupid, let's talk about it.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: IMDb summary count Dracula terrorises the crew of Spaceship.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Woo, and the film terrorizes our eyes.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: It does so the title sequence right off the bat
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: is very jarring and upsetting if you are prone to seizures.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't I would recommend skipping it because it made
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: me have to look away. I was. I was like,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: oh my god. And then fucking Udo Kere pops up
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: just like he did, and uh whatever. That last one
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: we did was fear dot com James Coke. Uh he
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: is like gripping across and screaming at this camera a
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: bunch of mumbo jumbo I didn't pay attention to. And
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: then that cuts immediately, and this is like a recording
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: of him, so it looks very like just shitty. It's
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: a very terrible recording. And then we cut to Abraham
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Van helsing voiceover, introducing the entire crew to us all
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: at once, giving us their stats, because.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Fuck, like like a stat pard you'd see for a
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: video game.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Fuck character development. Here's the back of their card, you know,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: like their little sports card with all their stats, and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: telling me six or seven different people, like, like, I'm
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: gonna fucking remember any of those names because you're not
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: introducing them organically. I'm not gonna remember that. Shit, why
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: are you doing this?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, most films, they will either bring you a character
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: like okay, Ocean's Eleven's a good example, where they introduce
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: all the characters together who they're gonna bring together for
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: this heist. But they introduce it by saying their name,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: George Clooney or Brad Pitts, talking about who the character is,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: and we get to see them do something on the screen,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: so you get a sense of that character. You just
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: telling me straight facts, and some of them are just
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: wildly insulting facts about the characters. I have no sense
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: of that character. I just have random character who I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: also don't know, opinion, and random facts about said characters.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: It's a stupid way to introduce characters. So let me
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: put you in the setting here because we're in the
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: year three thousand. Hence Dracula three thousand no correlation to
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Dracula two thousand either. These movies aren't fucking related at whatsoever,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: not even kind of related.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: So it's the year three thousand. They're on a space
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: salvage ship called Mother three. I don't know why it's
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: called Mother three. I guess there was two prior to
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: it that fucking exploded. I have no idea. They happen
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: upon this derelict transport called the Demeter not subtle. Captain
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Van Helsing and his crew board the abandoned ship, and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: the second that that one hit goes onto it. Unlike.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: These oxygen masks are fucking stupid. They come out behind
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: the head and do these huge.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Like loops and go in there massive two.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: It's mad like that is this? Oh my god, that
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: is a great way to get caught on something. Have
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: it be cut accidentally? Who fucking designed these? And the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: oxygen tanks are like literally like twelve by two inches wi.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: And the two are so long, like how are you
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: expected to get Because the thing with oxygen masks is
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: the oxygen supposed to come in and out really closed
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: because you have to get it. Your breath is what's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: making it travel. Yeah, and you've got these two inch
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: wide tubes that are at least four feet long. It's
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: how she's just breathing back in her own like carbon
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: dioxide at that point.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: It's stupid. Also, everyone is wearing nothing essentially, like they're
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: not in space suits. We've got a dude and a
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: wife beater. We've got dude with like just like clothes on.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: You're like, what a leather space Yeah?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Where are your suit?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Because like, and they're also just wearing like.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Gas masks they are those are straight up here.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just gas masks that are fashioned into like oxygen,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. But there's no helmets, there's no space gear,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: there's nothing. And I'm like, this is so stupid. You
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: would not you would be in space suits in space.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: What's happening here? So that's fucking stupid. We're introduced to
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: hum Vy and some other chick I think Mina, I
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: can't remember her name, yes, but he Humby is like
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: sexually assaulting this girl right off the bat, saying disgusting things,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: trying to like get in her pants.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: And you're like immediately kisses her without her consent.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just absolutely disgusting. So right off the bat,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy is a fucking a weirdo.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: And then what now, I'll get into it later, Okay,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: We see Udo Kir again, Like, I don't know who
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: the fuck is watching these tapes because they're just playing.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: They're just played intermittently in between what's going on with
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: the crew in the abandoned ship, So I don't know
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: who's watching these I mean, eventually they do get to
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: a point where they're like, oh, I found these tapes,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: but like, who the fuck.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: That guy watches about twenty seconds one tape and then
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: we get to see all the others, Like there was
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: no reason to.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Show know why these are cutting in, So that's fucking stupid.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: They're they explore the bridge and they find the dead captain,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: which is Udo Kir, which he had both of his
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: hands tied to his chair. He was the only one
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: on board. I don't know how he tied both of
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: his hands together.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: That's and they straight up said, it looks like he
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: tied himself to the chair.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how what you fucking you got? Like you're using
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: somehow to tie that.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Shit with als so hilarious when they get in there,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: the their guy, their computer tech wizard who somehow is
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: the most intelligent person on the board, but like still
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: says some of the dumbest shit. Yeah in the mill,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: he's in a wheelchair.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who the fuck is in a wheelchair in space?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: That's not gonna work.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Man, And if it, if that was a thing, you
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: need to make that like, this is how we would
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: deal with wheelchairs in space. Not we put him there
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: so that way he didn't That way we could leave
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: him places. It's literally meant only her bro down because
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: they're like at one point, like they've never dealt with
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: this scenario, which is wild because this is an ongoing crew. Yeah,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: they just leave him, all all of them leave him
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: at the top of the stairs and he's like, hey,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: can somebody carry me? Like we haven't. You guys don't
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: have I can't believe that you're a functioning crew, because
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: a functioning crew would have all this ship on lockdown.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know, Jesus, I forgot. I was gonna say.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: They were they were looking at the dead captain.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: No, oh no, just having having a guy in a
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: wheelchurned space is it just doesn't make sense because you know,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: every every ship here has like anti gravity, I guess,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: so where you know they they're not floating around, but
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I hate how that's never explained
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: in some movies, you know, on spaceship. So it's like
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: you'd be floating around and somehow you have your walking
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: around a ship. So it doesn't make sense. I appreciate
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: your inclusion of wanting to put a guy in you
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm that's cool, but like, it
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense in space. No, it doesn't make sense.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: So that's stupid, and.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: It's literally only in their Yeah, so that way they
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: can abandon him places for the plot, which was minimal
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: to begin with.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they find the captain. He's clutching a cruise
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: to fix, which there apparently were banned two hundred years ago.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can ban somebody from making
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: a piece of wood into a like a cross.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Stupid, only one hundred and fifty years before wheat was legalized.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stupid. So so the you know, the captain and
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: vice camp captain, they are clanning salvage rights to this
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: ship and they want to tow it back to Earth,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: and as the crew prepares the return, Mother three suddenly
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: comes uncoupled from the Demeter, leaving them stranded on the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: derelic ship with no means of communication. And for some reason,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: there is no fucking person on Mother three. Everyone is
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: off board. What the fuck protocol is that there always
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: has to be a man on the ship for this
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: exact fucking situation. I was so angry at this moment,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: like this is so dumb.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: And it was super dumb because apparently the computer this
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: guy was using to do everything was in this center
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: of what looked like a cargo bay, not like a bridge.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: He wasn't at the bridge where the captain was. No, No,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: the computer for navigation is there. And then when he
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: says Mother is trying to disconnect, there's no computer screen
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: saying he's just slipping toggles and pressing random buttons. You're like, what,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: what's the uh series? You have to hit these buttons
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: and flip these toggles to make Mother not detached? Could
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: you tell me?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: It's real stupid? So now they're on this darror like
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: ship whatever, and we see one eight seven and humvy
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: uh walking around. They discover some coffins and one eight
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: seven's like, oh, they could use that to like smuggle
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: shit in, and what's laying around just because to open it?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Uh fucking crowbar from behind a pipe.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, from like like a nineteen ninety nine civic. Just
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: here's a.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Crowbar, and it was what he goes hold on and
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: then just kind of looks around seas one like behind
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: a pipe and takes it like, yeah, how did you
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: know that someone would hide up crowbar?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense? Yeah, there would, that would not
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: be there. So they pry it open. They only fight sand,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: a fine sand. But then he soon is attacked by
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: something that we see and he gets this random bone
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: sticking out of him that makes no sense because it's
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: not like a bone that you can see has been broken.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: It's just one. It's just one bone poking up through
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: his leg at the dumbest angle, which makes literally no sense,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: so stupid. So the crew rushes to him. They try
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: to fix his broken bone, and one lady just snaps
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: it back in. I'm like, that's not how this works.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: You like, you have to push you'd have to push
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the bone in, and then said it she just snaps
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: it I'm like, that's not how this works. I think
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: it's a doctor, but that's not how that works.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: When they run to his aid, they don't immediately start
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: and the guy in the wheelchair is their only medic,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: which concerning because he's that's a limited range. The they
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: don't try to like immediately administer first aid. No, they
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: badger him with questions until he passes out. Yeah, like
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: what you think your priority would perhaps be, h get
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: him to not die.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: I mean you'd think, but no, but no, So they
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: rush him back somewhere. They notice he's got bites on
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: his neck or a bite on his neck, and then
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: he soon wakes up after that and attacks Abraham. Then
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: this Battle of the Century erupts whole Boy, was that
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: a fucking silly fight? He says some really gross things
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: to Aurora, talking about like trying to get up in
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: that and how he's gonna.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: How often he jerks after her.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: It's real disgusting. Like I was sitting there with my
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: hands and like on my face in my hands, Like
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: how did this get past? How did this get approved?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Who said yes to this movie?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Well, remember, by the end of the movie, we were
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: talking about it and we're like, this movie is not
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: only sexist, but it's racist because the two dumbest people
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: on the crew are the two black guys. They're they're
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: the ones who both get the oh it's like a
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: plus sign line about the crucifix, but all the white
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: people seem to know what a crucifix is.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they made them. They made other Rhydy.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: Hyper sexualized, Like they play into that stereotype of black
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: men just want to sexualize white women, because they do
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: that a lot this movie. In this movie, sorry to be.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Clear, I mean I was like, make sure you're being
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: clear here.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry. They do that several times throughout the movie, and
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: then the women are always treated like sex objects, and
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: even the one character is supposed to be the strong
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: female later gets downgraded into a sex object.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I should we let you talk about this one.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Uh so Yeah, Battle of the Century Aurora tries to
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: shoot him and does nothing. She runs away one E's
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: seven chases, but then like just gives up, like they're
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: chasing it to moves on. Yeah they're chasing he's chasing
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: her and then just gives up and then runs into
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: you know, Count Dracula, who's like killed them all and
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: He's like yes, Master or whatever and runs away because
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they just established that now he's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: his master because he you know, he bit him. It
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: was like, oh okay, which again really weird that they're
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: making a white guy.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: So you know, the first guy they turn into a
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: vampire is a black guy, and.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Now he has to call him master. You're like, God,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: you guys are really not doing this right.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: This is not yeah, who's obsessed with weed?
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: By the way, like his personality, his personality is literally
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: we like, you guys made these the characters two dimensional stereotypes,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Like what are you doing?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: And we talked about how funny was because you get
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: to see one eight seven's room for a second. His
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: room is a bench, some chips, a surfboard, and a
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: hookah and you're like, well, you did it. You've established
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: that he's a pothead and apparently from California, Like what
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: are we doing?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: What do we st Yeah, what are you using the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: surfboard for? Is it just is it just aesthetics stupid?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: So Aurora, who is fleeing one eight to seven, also
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: runs into Master, like a vampire named Count oorloc bites
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: her neck and while this is happening, Mina gets attacked
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: and killed by one eight to seven. Uh So, then
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: after that, Aurora makes her way to the recreation room.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: She imports her encounter with Overlock and reveals that he's
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: a vampire from planet Transylvania. Not like a little city
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: or talent. It is Planet Transylvania's planet is dead. He's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: the last of his kind. He wants to eat, like
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: he's ready to go. They woke up. He's hungry and
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: he needs blood to live and it's your problem now.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: And after they question her about that, she's not able
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: to explain how she escaped or Lock unharmed. Oh, by
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: the way, we're going in a full spoiler to on
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: movie because fuck this movie.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Fuck this movie.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, she could be lying, and they
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: leave her tied up and guarded by humvee. And then
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Rora is doing literally whatever she can to get him
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: to on tire, like you should we could go have
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: fun and have sex. And then this is where he
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: suddenly gets a brain, you know what I mean, Like
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: he's been kind of dumb this whole movie. But then
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: he's like, nah, you could be tricking me, like you've
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: been talking about how you wanted to have sex with her, right.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: And now you don't hilarious because now you don't want
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: to what and what's funny is earlier in the film,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: he's having a conversation with one eight to seven. They're
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: the only two black guys on here, and he's pretty
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: much like saying that one eight seven is just like
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: a pothead, and he's not really contributing anything. He's really
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: given this vibe that he doesn't like him. Yeah, except
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: for later when he establishes they are long standing friends
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: who have known each other since childhood. You're like, Wow,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: none of your other scenes would have any way indicated
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: that you knew each other prior to being working together.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real silly. Uh So he's not going for it.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: And while this is going on, Captain and Professor is
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: searching the ship's database and discover that the legendary vampire
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: hunter Abraham v and Helsing is one of the ancestors
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: of Captain Van Helsing and the Professor believes that Orlock
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: is trying to seek revenge against their captain because he's
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: long distant relatives with the you know vampire killed fucking
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: needle or like you know what is that what is
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: the thinking of something like I don't know, God, damn it,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: tiny threads or something like strands.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Of Yeah, it's like a paper thing.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: We go, good God, paper thing.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: The second you he said that, we both went, how
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: the hell would he have even on this ship? He
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: hasn't even heard your name? Is what like? And uh?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: The Captain's like, that's probably not it, and he's like,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: but no, and he's like, you're the smartest guy on
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: the ship, and you think the vampire who this ship
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: has been derelict for fifty years? Yeah, he knows how
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: I knew that you guys would come around to this
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: ship fifty years and that the pleas make that work,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: make that make sense?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense? So that's stupid. And then right after
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: that one eight to seven games entrance to the to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: the reck room because for some reason, vampires can't open
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: doors in this I don't understand. Yeah, like they can't
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: seem to open doors, which is a really weird plot point.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Because people are locking the doors from the inside and
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: the outside, and it's as long as you're not a vampire,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: you can get the.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Door, seems yeah. So he eventually he persuades Humby to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: open it, and uh he manages to stake one eight
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: to seven in the heart with the wooden pool Q,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: which was awesome. Aurora still tied up. Theyugh confesses that
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: at this point, we're like an hour into this movie.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: At this point, Aurora confesses that how she was able
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: to get away from Count Orlock is that because she
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: is an undercover android. So she's a robot investigating salavage activities.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Why is this just being dropped on us an hour
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: into this hour and twenty five minute movie. What the fuck?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: The literal only explanation for that is that, again, like
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: the entrance to the film, they didn't have the time
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: for them to figure out Orlock's plan or what he
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: was doing. So because when she presents it, she presents
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: it as a string of information he has related to her,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what are you like the worst super
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: villain ever? You just told her your entire plan. It's
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: so stupid, it's so dumb. They literally they just like,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: we didn't really want them to have to figure it out,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: so we'll just have him tell her she won't die
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: because she's a robot, and then you know, then she'll
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: tell all the information. So we don't really have to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: figure out how to make it into the story.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Like the laziest writing of ever.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: It really is, because it like, and I told you
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: it was like, what is this supposed to be the
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: shyamal On twist on this movie? Oh, she's a robot
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: mind exploding. No, that was so dumb. It was such
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: a weird blot point. But I really feel like they
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: were like, Oh, this is gonna get them, let's put
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: that in the script. No, it stupid, real dumb. Captain
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: then learns of the ship, you know, through the ship's
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: stuff whatever their database. They realize that, oh, I know
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: how vampires can be stopped, and decides to steer the
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Demeter on a course towards a binary star system, thinking
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: that you know, binary sun, oh whatever, binary son. So yeah,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: they do that, and then the captain and Aurora soon
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: come across Mina and her coffin and kill her. And
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: then the captain gets in fronted confronted by Orlock. Uh,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: and then Aurora runs away to like, you know, get
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: some reinforcements. So the captain fights Orlock alone. That doesn't
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: go very well. He kind of gets beat up and
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: they don't show him getting beat up on screen. It's
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: like he got the just shows a scene of him
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: like crawling away, like oh help me, Like did you
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: not have the budget for a fight, for a fight scene?
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: She wants to get what's his face? The big guy?
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Um Vy?
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hum vy because Humvey is with the professor over there. Yeah,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: And he's like, no, I'm not falling for that same
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: trick twice when she's trying to talk to him to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: the door and like are you fucking stupid dumb? But yeah,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: I should also say that one of the things Dracula
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: says when she asks what do you want? He says
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: he wants infinite night. But last time he got control
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: of the ship, he was trying to steer it to
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Earth like Bitcher in space. It doesn't get much more
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: infinite night than that.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the most infinite of nights. Also, at some point,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: the Professor, scooting around in his wheelchair, finds Orlock, who
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: promises him to free him from his disability in return
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: for still like he was standing by his side that come,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: you know, walk next to me, be by number two.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll cure you of walking. And you're like
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: all right, that's cool. So when uh, and that's when
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: he's on the bridge at that point. So when Aurora
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: and Humvey returned to the bridge, they find Professor hiding
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: bitte marks on her or No, he's just sitting in
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: his wheelchair, kind of slunked over. He's got bitte marks
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: on his neck. Uh, And no questions asked, just uh.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Aurora just stabs him, starts stabbing him immediately, no questions asked,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: just like okay, I mean, I know you can see
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: the bites, but like, what, you're just stabbing him?
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: Did you say what happened to the captain?
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: Did you say what happened to the captain?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: I did? He was, you know, he got he got
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: beat up by Orlock and he was crawling.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Away and then he turned into a vampire.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, go ahead.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he turned into a vampire. They pull the steak
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: out of Mina to steak him, except apparently the steak
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: thing only works it's stuck in there, so then they
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: have the steak her again.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really weird. I was like, so she's
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: alive again, even though you killed her with a steak already.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: So if you're gonna establish that fine, they've done it.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: They dine a similar thing in Vampire Diaries for the Originals,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: they can only be killed by a specific steak. Yeah,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: so whatever, that's fine, except then she goes on after
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: they've clearly figured this out, to stab the professor multiple times,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: even though they clearly established that the steak needs to
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: stay in his body for it to remain effective.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: It's really stupid. Yeah, really dumb.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: You're like, well, I feel like they killed Mina and
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: then they realized they maybe didn't need they need didn't
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: have enough people for vampires, and yeah, they did it
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: too soon, and they're like, ah, shit, we should have.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to bring her back so we can
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: kill her again.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So now you've got Humby and Aurora, which are
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: the last people left. You see Orlock try to enter
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: the bridge, but then they closed the door on him.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: And then it's at this point where Aurora reveals to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Humby that she's also a programmed for sexual Before she
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: was reprogrammed, did you ever undercover assignment? She was a
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: sex bot essentially, and she's like, you only got twelve
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: hours left, you know, so we should go bang yep.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like oh, I've never had the money
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, So and throws her over his shoulder.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: He throws her over his shoulder, takes her away, and
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: then we get an outside shot of the ship flying
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: into a sun and exploding, and the credits roll immediately
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: and fucking what.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: And what happens to the villain? Tell me what happens
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: to Dracula?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: We have no idea.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: No, what's the last thing you remember happening to him?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: He fucking thunder, He got shut out of the bridge.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his arm gets Oh yeah, it's supposed to be
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: his whole arm, because he's got his whole arm through
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: the door, and they pull until it cuts his arm off,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: which suddenly is now about like four inches up from
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: the wrist and not the whole arm.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: And he's standing in a way where he's clearly disguising
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: the fact that his arm is still there, screaming about
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: his arm, and that's the last you see him.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: So they're just fucking idiots because apparently this particular threat
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: was easily deterred by door.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I don't know why they couldn't have just
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: there's so many other things that could have done than
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: sacrificing themselves. It's so fucking stupid. It made no sense,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: and it's just, oh, man.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't know how to kill vampires, yeah, the other one,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: but they did though there vampires you killed, No, I
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: guess three and then the one two times. Uh, you
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: clearly do know how to kill vampires. So it's fucking
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: stupid that you're like, well, the only way we can
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: stop Dracula is to burn I Am into the sun,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: which will apparently make you explode.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make any fucking sense at all, So
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: it's stupid. It's real stupid. I gave this movie a really,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: really easy half star. Yeah, but I did give it
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: the heart because you know what, I'm very impressed that
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: this that got made. I don't understand this. How many
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: people signed off on this, so I respect the fuck
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: out of them even trying this movie. So I'll give
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: you the heart for that, but half the star all day.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: But that's what I was saying.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: The biggest thing I noticed about this the second time through,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: because I'd already seen this once and I still maintain
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: this is the worst movie I've ever seen.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Yeah, I'm gonna have to rearrange some
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: of my other half stars because this takes a cake
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: for worst movie ever.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: But for them to end on a scene where a
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: woman who has been the tough female lead the whole time, which,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: by the way, they lead like Van Helsing is the
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: main character, and then to kill him before the end
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: of the film was just so weird and random, and
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: he didn't even have a bigger death. It was the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: same kind of death as everybody yelse, how much.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: You And.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: For them to then take the strong woman immediately turning
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: her into not just a robot but a sex robot,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: so a literal sex object yep, and have the hulking
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: black throw her over his shoulder because all he would
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: of course he's going to seize the opportunity to have
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: sex with the white woman robot. You're like, holy shit, guys,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: nobody saw any of the problems with that.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, that's why it gets a hurt,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: because I know, I'm saying, like, I don't understand how
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: this got made. I'm so surprised that this went through
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: so many other like people's hands, like yeah, this is
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be fine. So I'm not saying I like it.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it just gets a heart because like, yeah,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: how the how the fuck did this? How was this
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: okay to make?
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Like if this gun made today, this movie would
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: be and the actors would be literally wrecked.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so insane. It's Oh, I gotta read the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: trivia and shit right here. It's just it's one of
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: the stupid, Like I said, it might be the stupid,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: like dumbest movie ever made.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't even keep up with their own plot points.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: No, they couldn't. They they were all over the place.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: So here we go. Best tagline ever in space The
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: sun never rises, no shit, no shit trivia. The term
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: Mother three is actually a reuse of the slingship from
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: the short lived nineteen ninety three TV series Space Rangers
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety three, like I just said, I don't
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: know why I said that. Twice. Mina Murray, Arthur Holmwood,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: and Abraham van Helsing are all names of the characters
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: from the novel.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Draculo, Didn't I tell you that had nothing.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: To do with anything, nothing to do with anything.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Only the closest one was Van Helsing, and it was
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: thin at best.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's some great goofs. The Professor describes one eight
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: to seven's throat wounds as being made by definitely teeth incisors.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: The incisors are the front teeth, the teeth that would
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: correspond to vampire fangs with the canines. At the start
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: of the movie, a crew data film for Captain Abraham
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: van Helsing has shown at lists he was in the
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Special Forces from twenty nine eighty nine to twenty nine
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: ninety seven, yet it lists his discharge as being twenty
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: nine to ninety two.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: What, oh, it must be like Starship Troopers, he left
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: and went back.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe. When the crew finds the first skeleton tied to
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: the chair, Captain Van Helsing's says that the figure is
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: holding a crucifier. In fact, there would have to be
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: a depiction of Jesus on it to make it a crucifix.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: What the skeleton is holding is simply a cross, not
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: a crucifix, so.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: It's not a big metal plus sign.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: The corbs found on the ship is say said to
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: have tied himself to the chair. How he ties both
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: of his arms to the chair is not explain, And
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: the crew aims the ship towards the sun so the
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: like can kill the vampires. Yeah, the ship has no
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: known windows or portholes.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: Also, there is a literal moment where they a room.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: They are frequently in the door, just the door handle
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: just straight up disappears and then reappears again.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: But what's hilarious is I think I mentioned this to
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: you because it's one of those like continuity things in
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: relations to the crucifix thing. If they were banned two
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: hundred years ago, how the fuck does anyone know what
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: one looks like to make one? I know, and they
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: have dozens of them on the ship, Like, uh, who
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: knew about those to make them? Because if it's been
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: two hundred years, you'd have to have been practicing the
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: religion secretly. But apparently that's in no way relevant.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: You just no sense. Yeah, it makes no sense. It's
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: like someone did an ad lib and that's what they
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: made the script out of. It's a mad lib or
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: mad lib not ad lib.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: Sorry, no, I.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: Don't doubt they mad libbed ad libbed some stuff.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: So this has This is definitely the lowest rated movie
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: we've ever reviewed. Two point one out of ten on IMDb,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: one point three out of five on Letterbox. Like I said,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I gave it half, you gave it half?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: If I could give it less, I would, but.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of have to default and give it half. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: it gets half because it was made. So yeah, what
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: a time it's been. Can't wait to watch some good
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: movies now.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are better vampire films. I'm sure we'll get
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: around to them.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: I know we will.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: I know we're doing some more highly rated Yeah, in
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: my opinion better. Well every film is better, yeah, but
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: better vampire films next year.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: Well this year and next year, oh yeah, beginning of
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: the year. So I'm not going to say we're to
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: find us on social media because I will be Joe
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: by my buddy Michael Viers, and we are gonna be
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: talking about Blade. So this is just an all vampire episode.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: That movie is on his Shameless So we're gonna kind
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: of do a crossover of our formats and we will
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: be right back with Michael on the line. So stay tuned,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: and I guess say bye, Gabby, Bye, Gabby, okay bye.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: It's actually pretty heavily inspired from HHN House that I
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: think it was agen twenty eight or twenty nine. It
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: kind of had that same synthy kind of melody, and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: I just remembered that beat and kind of just made
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: it into my own thing. So I'm very proud of Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: I made that. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty pretty decent with
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: garage band. I used to make like hip hop beats
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: back in the day of like ten years ago. What
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah for my buddies who used to like you know,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: they would wrap and I would just make beats for them.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: I know this hasn't come up yet, but this is
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: the thing I have. Like I have, I have like
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: dozens of beats on my computer that are just sitting
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: there waiting for someone to use this. See I can.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: I can do it, but I can't write the lyrics.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: So if someone wants to write me lyrics, I can
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. But yeah, I'm not creative
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: in that aspect. I can only just yell into a
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: microphone about movies for an hour and a half every week.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: So that's my ability. Well, let me go ahead introduce
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: the show real quick. This is episode one fifty. Welcome back.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: I am joined with one of my good buddies and
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: fellow Centophiles, Michael Vyers. What's going on, dude, Oh not
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: a whole lot, buddy, He's back. This is your second
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: time on the show.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Has it only been twice?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Only been twice. The first time you were on, it
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: was just strictly about Shameless Picture Show, talking about your podcast,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: which obviously I want to talk about here in just
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: a second. But yeah, so this is your second appearance
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: and you're on the second half of our Vampiric triple feature.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Don't even know how this came about, but it's here,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're here with me because we were
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: doing a little bit of like a crossover here. So
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: we're doing some of your formula some of my formula. Obviously,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: if you want to go ahead and explain your formula
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: to my viewers, go ahead, and then I'll tell you
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: how we're matching them together.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so my I have a podcast I've been
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: running strong for the last six years called The Shameless
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: Picture Show. I am on the Cinepunk's podcast network. It
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: started off as a as a way for me and
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: my co host Nick to bond and to relate to
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: each other because we met each other at a film
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: festiv when we fell in love with each other hard
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: and realized that, you know, like, well we need to
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: find a way to keep in touch. And but years
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: later we came out with that doing a podcast, but
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: we thought, what can separate us? And he's a filmmaker,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: I'm a filmmaker, and we just realized that running over filmmakers,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of movies you've seen, but there's also
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: a fuck ton you haven't seen. And sometimes there's just
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of great shame that comes from when you
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: have to admit that you haven't seen something, and a
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: lot of and a lot of times you're like the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: people like, oh, have you've seen Apocalypse Now? You're like, fuck, yeah,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: it's a movie, and you don't really know what to say.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: So it's like, why do we do this? Why do
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: we pretend like we've seen stuff that we haven't. Let's
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: just find us safe haven to talk about things that
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: are on our shame list. And we've had big episodes.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: We've had movies like Rocky, who my co host hasn't seen,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: and we even have Lloyd Coffin on they're talking about
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: his time working on Rocky.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Oh Wow.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: We've done big films like The Godfather, I had never
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: seen it before that Apocalypse Now. But then we do
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: dumb little things like You're the Hunter from the Future
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: and you know, our shame Full Picture Show episode where
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: we did a double feature of He Man, Masters of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: the Universe and Super Mario Brother.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, so it's just for us.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: To talk about anything that we haven't seen, like we
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: it'd still be planned. But our next episode is that
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if this it's gonna be two separate
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: episodes or one full episode. We haven't decided yet. Okay,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: but we're gonna be talking about Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo, yeah,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: because I hadn't seen it up until that point, and
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: my co host had never seen Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: Don't know that's gonna be a weird double feature.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Who knows that would be an awesome I mean, completely
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: different movies, but I mean I'm about it both. Actually,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: wait now, I haven't seen wait first Bill and Ted's.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think i've seen the first one. I know
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: i've seen Verdigo because I did that on this show,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: but I don't think i've seen Bill and Ted's.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: Well, damn, you might need to get on.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: That, all right, I might have to get on that.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like coming up, I feel like I've seen
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Bogus Adventure or whatever. But I don't think i've seen
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: the first one Poppers.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the camera on Hey buddy, he's too big to
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: bring up on my lap, and he find it.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're okay. So I asked you if
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: you want to be on the show, and I said, okay,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: send me your shame list of horror movies because obviously
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: this is all.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I did. I went to fucking letterboxed
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: and sorted by horror films and then most popular of
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: all time, and it was just making a list of
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: the ones that I.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Have no shit. Okay, well you gave me a list
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: of a bunch that we have. Most of them we
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: had done, but there was one that stuck out to me,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: and that is Blade, because I haven't seen that. You
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: haven't seen that, So we're taking that shameful or you
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: know that movie that is on technically on our shameless
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: We should have seen it by now. It's twenty four
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: years old, and we're doing that just with my formula.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: So this is gonna be interesting for both of us because,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: like I said, when did you watch it? Because I
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: watched it literally yesterday.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: I watched for it. I want to say this last weekend,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: you know, how I'm gonna find out Letterbox. Oh yeah,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that we can both get a sponsorship from Letterbox.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: I talk about them almost every show. Actually, I do talk.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: About them so much.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: Actually I watched it on Sunday, according to my letterbox.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it's still yeah, it's today's Thursday's still fresh.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm very colpying.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: You assume it's fresh in my mind, is it not?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Did you remember anything?
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: I do, Okay, I have to write shit down. I
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of notes as per usual.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things too, like if I had
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: to sit down in here to do forty five minutes
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: by myself, maybe not like or I feel like things
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: would come but through conversation, a lot of it's going
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: to come out.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've got a plenty to say and plenty
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: of facts to go into. But let's see if we
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: can't go live here because.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: We're only forty five minutes to do it.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got this, Let's go live. Ready to go live,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: go live. Let me get my notes out because I
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: forget everything. So introduced Mike. We talked about the Shameless
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Pictures show all right, where can they find you on
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: the social needs?
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: Uh? Well, so the Shameless Picture Show is everywhere that
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: you can find podcasts. We are in Apple Podcasts, We're
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: in Spotify. We're on both Audible and Amazon, which I
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: did not realize Audible. Yeah, on Audible podcast who but
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: you can also find me at www dot cinepunks dot com.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: That's sin Apunk's with an X. Oh, so everywhere you
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: can find podcasts. I'm also on social media. I think
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: it's Shameless pod. We're places you're everywhere. Oh, and I'm
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: on TikTok. You can find this on TikTok and oh, yeah,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: shameless I don't know.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: You don't even know Michael no.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: Because I have the variations of the same name in
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: every place, because every place I know limits. We are
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: Shameless Picture Show on TikTok. And I just opened TikTok
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: and told me I just gained twenty four followers. I
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: don't even know what the fuck I did. Boom. You
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: can go on there and listen to me talk. I
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: do some on box singes. I do mostly talk about
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: physical media. I do some. I do the most. I
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: don't want to say the most that might be overselling it.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: But I do some pretty in depth physical media reviews
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: in three to six minutes.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, you show like some of the trailers from
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: the movie and you talk about what you like and
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: all that stuff and how the actual movie looks and sounds.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: It is very always my goal every time I do this.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: Can I say everything I need to say before this
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: trailer ends?
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: And I mean, if you got a long trailer, I
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: love the one you did. What was that Reform School Girls?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Didn't you do one for that? Oh my god, I
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: still have to watch that movie.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: Trailers bonkers?
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think we watched the trailer for it
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: the last time I was on your little live stream
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: that we did on Facebook.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they played it lot.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like, I'm all about that, and then
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: I bought it like the next day. I think, so, yeah,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: I still have to get around to watching that.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: You're the whole reason I watched it, because I just
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: sent you a bunch of movies. What should I watch it?
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: Reform School Groups?
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: Definitely, and You're like, oh, like no, it just sounds amazing.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: This is something something I would want to watch, So
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna recommend it to you. Speaking of stuff that
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: we we have watched. What have you been watching recently?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Anything good does not have to be specifically horror movies,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: just just anything.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: So good things I've been watching. It's not a great movie,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: but I really enjoyed it, and I'll be reviewing it's
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: soon on TikTok. I watched Michael Finlay's Shriek of the Mutilated.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: It is a bonker's bigfoot movie. Oh directed by Michael Findlay,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: shot by his then wife Roberta Findlay, who some of
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: you guys might know from genre filmmaking and sexploitation filmmaking.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: Any of you vinegar syndrome fans out there will know
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: her name, uh because she did some crazy fucking pornosh
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: good and honestly, the movie's fun. I have a fondness
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: for bigfoot films. Oh yeah, like I love them, even
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: though most of them aren't very good. The comment I
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: haven't listened to the commentary yet, but there's a featuret
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: on there where Roberta Findlay is talking about making this film,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: and she also talks to us. She's a cinematographer and
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: like this is like her second thing she's done as
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: a sematographer, and no even how to shoot anything. And
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: it's kind of funny hearing to talk about her now
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: deceased husband, because her husband, Michael Findlay, directed the film,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: died in I think nineteen seventy seven. He was cutting
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: half by helicopter.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's one hell of a way to go.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: And she's like, he's like, yeah, when I met him,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: he was you know, he was really interested in making
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: movies about cutting up and mutilating women. And I'm convinced
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: if he wouldn't have made these movies, he probably would
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: have done that. I'm like, damn. Like she's just being
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: very and she's like, I don't remember anything about shooting
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: this movie. A very candid discussion with the Berta Findlay
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: about this movie, and it's like kind of her husband kids.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: What you was this movie?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: This is like nineteen this is nineteen seventy four.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's like tcm era right there. Yep.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I also watched I finished watching OPI
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: wan Kenobi. Oh nice, Okay, it was good. Yeah, it
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: was fine.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I It's pretty much like it's just
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: what I wanted or what I expected it would be.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: You know, No, I will say I don't want to
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: go into too much depak and no, we don't have
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of time. Yeah, seeing how that show
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: plays out ruins the character of Obi Wan Kenobi. Oh yeah,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: in that okay spoiler for anyone who has not seen
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: Obi Wan Kenobi, because there's no way I can do
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: this spoiler free. Him letting Vader go in the end
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: pretty much confirms that he causes everything that happens. What
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: you mean, Yeah, yeah, oh you you let him go
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: and because of that, all this death and suffering happens
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: because of you, you fucking prick.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah no that I didn't even think about that, but
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: that makes one hundred percent sense. Thank you for enlightening me. Yeah,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I mean I knew that's how it was gonna end though,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: because I mean, how what other outcome could there be?
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: There's no problem. Problem with Disney making movies that are
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: based on every single unexplored moment in between movies is
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: that there's no stakes. I know Ley is not going
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: to die, right, I know Obi Wan is not gonna die.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: I know what's gonna happen. So it's like, well, some
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: of these scenes are thrilling, and it's like, oh, well,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: I know how this sends.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I think The Mandalorian is so good,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: because it's a completely like side story and they've just
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: done it so well. Jon Favreau, Oh my god. And
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: I think we're supposed to be getting season three early.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: We're supposed to get at Christmas this year, I thought,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: But I guess it's like February of next year now
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: or something, so we gotta wait a little bit more
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: for that, which is season three, I think. But yeah, Kenobia,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: which is kind of it was just kind of like good,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: you know, like it was good.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: It was it was solid three star show.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's what I gave it.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: Actually, the best thing I've watched recently though, was a
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: local theater. Shout out to the Times Theater here in
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee has it did a month sci fi movies. They're
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: doing some repertory screenings and I love that this one.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: You know, they did things like they did Star Wars,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: they did you know, the Day they are stood Still
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: shit like that. But I absolutely love that part of
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: their sci Fi month. They showed Honey, I Shrunk the kids.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: Oh nice. My wife had never seen it, so I
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, we're gonna go see the kids sweet
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: even though I had just watched it on VHS. No, no,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: I had to watch it again.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Experience it on the big screen. Yeah, it's amazing, very nice. Okay,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: let's see.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: He watched a lot more since then, but I tried
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: to like kind of weed through it.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: Oh no, you're fine horror movie wise recently what I've watched. Oh,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: I know. We actually both just watched Serial Mom recently,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: which is he did fucking a phenomenal movie. I I
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: I expected to like it, but I did not expect
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: to love it like I did. Holy shit, that was
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: so funny. If you don't know what this is about.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: It's directed. But what was the guy's name who directed it?
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: You told me about him, John Waters. So this is
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: And you said watching this was probably a good introduction
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: to his movies, because I don't think i've seen another
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: John Waterer before.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: It's a It's a good way to begin because it
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: does have a lot of his humor and his sat
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: tire so funny, over the topness because his earlier films
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: are even more over the top, but they can be
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: a little challenge because they're very transgressive films. Okay, and
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: while I personally think that. I think they're great. They
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: can be a little tough for some people because he is.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: They are really di y. They're very transgressive, okay, and
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: you kind of get the I don't know, like you
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: see a his first movie Pink Flamingos as a guy
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: who's singing out of his asshole. Oh like trans butthole,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: just like singing like lipstick into a song. And then
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: a you know, divine a drag queen eats dog shit
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: off the ground and it's legitimate dog shit.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's a I've heard literally, I think
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: Gabby was talking about that she can't watch that scene
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: because it's actual shit.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: It's it's very the whole transgressive film and it's so
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: I like this and like cecil b Demented, I love
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like his big budget period where like
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: he still has some of his unique John Waters characteristic. Yeah,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: but it's a little more palpable.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: You know, I also think like Hairspray is a good
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: place to begin, but like I don't feel like hair
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: Spray has is some of his like his like dark humor,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: you know the way that say like ceial mom or
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: even cry Baby.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to check out more of that. So
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: if okay, knowing that I've only seen cereal Mom, Uh,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: which which route would do you recommend? I go? Like
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: pink Flamingo hairspray? Well, what do you think?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: I would say? If you want something a little bit
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: more like ceial Mom, I would say, maybe go cry Baby.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, if you.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: Want to try start exploring to some of his more
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: transgressive stuff, pink Flamingos is a really good way to begin.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: That's uh, that's actually on the Criterion collection.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: Or I really like Multiple Maniacs.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, I will put those on the list.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: But I would say if it's John waterer'son the Criteria collection,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: it's because he has a couple of the Criterion collection.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: He has Pink Flamingo's, he has Polyester. I believe multiple Maniacs,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: and I think even Female Trouble.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I do like Criterion because they usually put
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: out like you know, I know, they have most of
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Wes Anderson's like filmography and stuff like that. So I
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: like that they have multiple by one director. So I
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: have to check those out. But yeah, Cereal Mom, that's
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a recommendation from both of us. If
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen that, check it out. I have the
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: UH Screen Factory Collector's Edition, and it is amazing that
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: it's going to be something I watch all the time
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: in this household. Foresure, what else have I seen recently
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: is something that's not horror. I rewatched Ready to Rumble
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: the other day.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: So hard to find a DVD copy of that off
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: of eBay, and I had to. You know, it's probably
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: like one of the original dvs because I don't think
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: it was never going to get a blue ray, least
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: not illegal Blu ray robeast.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the snap DVD case. Yeah, and that
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: I've had it for years, probably because I've got it
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: when it first came out. But yeah, that's it's a
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: silly movie. And then I also watched on Wes Anderson,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: not Wes Anderson, Craven's birthday the other day. On the second,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: I watched Red Eye because I hadn't seen that in
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: a while, and that one's on HBO Max and Redeye
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: is like super underrated in my opinion, silly and Murphy
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: and uh uh isn't it.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: Rachel McAdams.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: Rachel McAdams, Yeah, it is a great movie that no
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: one ever talks about. And it's one of his you
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: know later movies two thousand and five. The Man Knows Tension, Yeah,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: he really does.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: That man knows how to put together a scene.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's a bunch of stuff I've been watching lately.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: Have you purchased anything recently any boutique labels or have
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: you had anything sent to you from your great friends
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: over at Vindigar, Syentrum or Mill Creek.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: So I had streak of The Mutilated sent to me.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: I want a competition buddy of mine, Mike Vaughan. He
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: is a really talented writer. He does a lot of
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: physical media reviews as well. He wrote a really good
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: book called The Ultimate Guide to Strange Cinema that you
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: should be checking out. And he also does a YouTube
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: show called The Video Addict. Everyone go check out check
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: out Mike Ball and they do some great stuff. I
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: want a competition from them. And I won a Blu
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: ray copy of The Batman.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, okay, very nice.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: And then I not too long ago, I bought the
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: four K edition of Raging Bowl from Criterion.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, and then.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: I also picked I got uh the movie Basketball Sentivy
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: from Medicas over Milk Creek. That review should be coming soon.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, and Black, the Brian de Palmer film The
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 3: Black Dhalia.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: Oh nice.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: And then another one that I bought. There was a
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: movie that I used to go love that came on
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: the Disney Channel quite a bit when I was a kid,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: called The Paper Brigade.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: That sounds very familiar.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: It's about a kid who who moves to a new
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: town and he ends up getting to make some money. Uh,
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: starts paper route, but he turns out he's really bad
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: at it. Uh And because there's all these crazy neighbors
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: and everything. Robert England plays one of the neighbors, and
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: it's kind of great, okay, and like you know, he's
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: been attacked by dogs, crazy neighbors and he has to
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: and he does all. Like there's like a great montage
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: in the middle where like he builds like a suit
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: of armor and ships that way he can survive his
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: paper route and everything. Okay. I don't know, I don't
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: know if it holds up. It was a movie I
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: remember whapping as a kid.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of those movies you remember as a kid
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: you watch now and you're like, it's not great, but
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: I still have like fond memories of it, so.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised he even has a DVD release. I don't
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: think this is an official release at all, but I
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: got a release which which has it retitled as Gunther
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: and the Paper Brigade because Gunther's name of the lead character.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: I think it's a I think that might have been
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: the Canadian title, so I would not be surprised. I
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: don't know it.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: Or something.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: I was more excited to get it than I.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: Should have been. Nice, okay, excellent. I have been purchasing
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: way too many Screen Factory things as you, as per usual.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: I actually nabbed a copy of Return of the Living
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: Dead with slit the other day because they announced the
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: four K and people are just taking ridiculously low amounts
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: of money for that, so I got it for like
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: forty bucks. Wait, what's the title Return of the Living Dead?
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: Because the the blu ray and slipcover out of print
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: from Screen Factory. Are they really Oh yeah, they've been.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: Green Factory used to keep updated on their Facebook when
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: things are going out of print, but I haven't seen
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: that in a while.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: They have a section on their website now that's strictly
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: op stuff. So maybe that's why they haven't said anything.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 3: Because like they used to say before it went out
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: of or like right before. So that way, in case
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: you want to pick up any copies.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: I usually get emails that say pick these up now
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: before they go and I'm like, oh, fuck, what's going
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: out of print? Now?
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 3: Give me a favor, because I never get those emails
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: anytime something's about to go out of print. Let me know.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I will forward that over it.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm like I'm waiting for something like, oh, like,
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: you know, this is the movie I want, but I
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 3: don't need to jump on it.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: I can wait a little bit. Yeah, okay, yeah, I
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: can send those over. So, yeah, I've been just buying
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff like that. I just Child's
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: Play should be here this week. The four k's one
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: through three, Dog Soldiers should be here next month. Fun
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: House should be here next month. Oh wait, no, this
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: month it's fucking August. Now there's a whole bunch of
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: stuff I pre order that's coming soon. So I've spent
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: way too much money. And then they just released the
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: Halloweens six through eight on four K as a like
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: a I guess, like as a bundle, you can't buy
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: them individually. And I know why they're doing this because
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: they don't want to fucking take the hit on Resurrection
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: not selling, so they're making you buy all. They said
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: it's for licensing purposes, but we all know it's because
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: no one will buy eight, so they're bundling them all
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: together and you have to buy six, seven, and eight,
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: which is fine. I want to.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: I love them all, even the ones that aren't very good.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I get it.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. Like I'm gonna buy them anyway.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I have a whole bunch of shit coming
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: from screen Factory. My goodness, I could.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: Not find that section on their website where it's it
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: mentions what's.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: Out of Oh I will, I will, I will get
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: you that right now. I have a tab open on
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: my phone that just Yeah, it's it's hard to find.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: You have to like search through it, and it's a
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: pain in the ass. That's why I just kept a copy.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna send that to you right now through text
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: message and you can open the link and it'll be like,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: here's all this shit.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing, good thing, this is all good
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: shit to cut out.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: I always say I cutched it out. I'm like, now,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: fuck do I'm leaving it at.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: Well, if you only got forty five minutes, you're gonna
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: have to cut something.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: I know I probably will. Let's see here, let's go
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: on to the next thing. I need to go back
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: into the there it is all right. So a couple
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: of things before we get into this movie. We've got
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: some good ship coming out this week.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: Man, I miss Dance mccob and missing in action.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, yeah it happened. I saw that the other day,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: so yeah, keep that handy.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 3: So I'm pissed.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do I have Dance mccob.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: I might have it, Actually I haven't seen it. It's
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: just one that I want to see.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Robert England, Man.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 3: Man, I missed out in Full Moon High.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: Oh that was a while ago. Yeah, yeah, that one.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: I like you could always check, you know, Amazon though,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: because sometimes yeah, like Dance macab is still there for
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: twenty two bucks, so they might be out of me
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: out of print from them directly, but usually there's some
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: stragglers you can pick up from Amazon or.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: Even like that was what I picked up. Terror Train
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: is when it went out of Prayer.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, be sure to check that. But stuff
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: coming out this week. We've got that new Kevin Bacon
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: joint going straight to Hulu or Peacock, it's to Day.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: Them, and then yeah, that's what I'm excited for.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited for that. It's Peacock. And then we've
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: got Prey, which is that predator like this week yeah
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: tomorrow on Hulu. Fuck yeah yeah, and then Body's Body's
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: Bodies is out in theaters right now, and then next
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: week we've got Fall and one other horror movie. So
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: this month is going to be crazy, crazy good for
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: horror movies. So I'm super excited. I think we're gonna
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: think me and the wife are gonna watch The Day
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: of Them tomorrow and then probably Pray on Saturday.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah if it comes out. If they then comes
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: out to that's what I want to watch.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming straight to you. If you have Peacock,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: if you have regular Peacock.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: I have Peacock through a friend.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, so you have it then boom. So yeah,
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: be sure to check that out if you've got nothing
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: going on. But let's get into this movie here. Oh
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: my god, let me drop some shit. First though, I'm
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: gonna read it off my phone because I want to
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: be able to see the screen up here. So we've
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: got Blade. If you haven't seen it, oh my god,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna want you after this. So Blade from nineteen
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: ninety eight released on August twenty first. It is rated
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: R for mild sex and nudity, severe violence and gore,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: severe profanity. We have forty four fucks. That's a lot
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: of fun. Count those, no, it says it on the IMDb.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: Fantastic.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it says how many fucks or shits or whatever.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: Moderate alcohol, drugs and smoking, and moderate frightening and intense scenes.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: Coming in at two hours. Listed as an action horror
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: sci fi, and it did not really feel like a
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: two hour movie for me. It had legs and it
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: it was like.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 3: A little long to me. But I think it was
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 3: a little entire way.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I was sitting there just in awe of
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: what I was watching. I was very very drawn into
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: that movie.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: I had a long day to day i watched it,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: So that might have been part of it.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because usually two hours for me is about where
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to tap out. But I think I was
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: just so into it. I didn't even I wasn't even
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: paying attention to the time. Directed by a man named
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: Stephen Norrington, was four count them directing credits. Also did
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: Death Machine from nineteen ninety four and then The League
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: of Extraordinary Gentlemen. So there's that. David S. Goyer is
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: the writer. He has fifty five writing credits. Also did
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: Blade two and Blade Trinity, which I've heard Blade two
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: is pretty good, but Trinity not so much.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you haven't seen either heard of
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 3: the same thing. Yea, But hey, David S. Goyer wrote
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of really great Batman comics back in the
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: day too. Oh did he still might be Yeah?
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, look at you. See. This is why this is
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: why I like having you on. You have random knowledge
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: that I had no idea about. So how like, how
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: long ago did he do that?
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 3: I think he might still be doing that. Oh okay,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: let me double check.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. I had no idea he did that.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pretty prolific name in the comic book world.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah see, I'm not like super huge into those,
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: so I don't know too much information about that. But
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: that's a pretty awesome bit of information right there, which
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: makes sense why he did the Blade movies because those
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: were Marvel comic back in the day. Right, if I'm
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: not mistaken. Yeah, Like I said, I'm not super into comics,
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure I knew that Blade was one
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: back in the day. You find out what he's doing,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep going here. Composed by a man
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: named Mark Isham one hundred and ninety four composing credits,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: which is insane. He also did the hitcher from nineteen
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: eighty six Hardball Crash, The Mist, The Crazies, and Bill
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: and Ted Face the music. He was actually the same
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: guy we talked about last episode on The Mist, Guy
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: gets Around. Cinematography by a man named Theo Van desand
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen cinematographer credits. Also did body parts
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety one Wayne's World, Big Daddy, Little Nikki,
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: and then the Grownups movies, which I never saw but
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: heard were not great. Grown Ups one and two at
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: least the second one wasn't that great. I don't know.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: It's Adam Sandler and all his buddies. Can't be that bad, right,
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: It's fine, It was fine, just middle of the road.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 3: It's you know it's it's a middle of the road
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: Anam Sandler movie.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: All right, that's fair.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: I can't seem to find I get a website the
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 3: load of all the comic books.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: He wrote, but he does.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: He's done a bunch of Justice League of Americas. He's
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: been he's been writing comics since I believe the nineties.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: Actually maybe maybe maybe wait maybe early two thousands, late nineties. Right, Yeah,
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 3: he wrote some good Batman stuff, if I'm remembering correctly,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: wrote a lot of Justice League. But it's been a while. So, like,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: if there's a comic book fan out there who's like
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: swearing up and down that I'm getting it wrong.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going off of memory, people, just just shoot me.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: Let's see here. So starring Wesley's Blade. You might know
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: him from Whiteman Can't Jump as Sydney Demolition Man, as
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: Simon or two Wong Fu Thanks for everything, Julia Gardner
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: or Julia Newman White, Julia Newmark, Ladies and gentlemen of
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: the jury, excuse me. Then we've got Chris Christopherson as Whistler.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty acting credits was also When a
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: Star Is Born as John Norman Howard Payback is Bronson
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: and also in Blade two Slash Trinity as Whistler and we.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: Love Chris Christopherson. The dude's pretty fucking great.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fantastic in this.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: Also a pretty decent musician, is he really?
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes sense. He he kind of
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: had that look. Yeah, he was great in this. I'm
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: trying to think of anything else I've seen him in,
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: but like, honestly, I don't. I mean, he's got a
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: lot of credits, but I don't think i've seen him.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I have maybe, but I'm just
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: not remembering the name. But I really enjoyed him in this,
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: as well as Stephen Dorf as Deacon Frost hundred one
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: acting credits. Was also in The Gates. Yeah, The Gate
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: is Glenn Public Enemies as Homer and Meeter and Immortals
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: as Starvos. Good dude, And we've got Donald Loga's Quinn
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixteen acting credits. So many, Like all
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: these actors are fucking get like they got a lot
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: of work. He was in Ghostwriter as Max Zodiac as
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: Captain Ken Narlow and Silent Night from two.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 3: In the sitcom I used to Love a Grounded for life.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's the father and in that show.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: So all right then, and Udo kir who has appeared
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: in like the last two fucking episodes as Dragonetti, who
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: has two hundred and seventy five acting credits. Also in
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: Suspiria's Doctor Frank Mandel as vent Surup, had Detective as Camp,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: and that new show Hunters as Adolf Hitler.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: He also is in one of my favorite like adaptations
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 3: of Frankenstein Flesh for Frankenstein.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: Oh really, okay, I mean, dude, he's in. He's in
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: so many things. He like, you might not know the name,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: but if you see his face and hear his accent,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: you know exactly who it is. Just had a budget
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: of forty five million dollars grow sing one hundred and
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: thirty one million, and according to sources online, apparently this
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: is really what saved like Marvel, I guess or something
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: like that, like this made so much money that it
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: was able to make way for Marvel movies down the road,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: like Iron Man and stuff like that. I know your
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: friend commented on that post on Facebook. He's like, you
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: better mention that thing about Blade making money for the
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: MCU or something like that. So yeah, apparently we can
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: thank this movie for saving the MCU or something the thing.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah remember the meme I sent you or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: so that's pretty cool. I had no idea, but thank
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: you Blade for making all that money. I mean shit,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: that's double. It's almost three times what they spent to
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: make it. So that's pretty awesome film.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because because like they had, you know, they experimented
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 3: with some Marvel films, like they did The Punisher with
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 3: Dolph Lungren, Howard the Duck, they did a shitty Cats
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: in America, but it was Blade. And because of the
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: success of Blade, they were able to do X Men,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: able to Spider Man, able to Daredevil, which fuck the haters,
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 3: I love Daredevil and so on and so forth. So
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 3: it kind of kicked it off.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can thank this movie for like saving it.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: We could thank this movie for Daredevil, goddamn it.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I have a lot of things
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: to thank this movie for. It's just so good. You
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: can watch this on HBO Max if you would like,
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: I've got the four K, and you can run it
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: on Amazon for two ninety nine or purchase it for
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: four ninety nine if you so choose to movies that
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: came out around the same time. We've got Disturbing Behavior,
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: Saving Private Ryan, The Parent Trap, Basketball, which we just
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: talked about, Halloween, H two O, Snake Eyes, Cube, and
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: Rush Hour. So that is a pretty good time to
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: be at the movies, if I do say so myself. So, yeah,
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: did you sow any of the questions on there? Did
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: you write down any of your favorite moments and kills
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: and such?
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 3: Not really, I figured we would just kind of come
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 3: up through talking.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: That's totally yess.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: Honestly, like my answer for a good Chunkies could just
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 3: be the first fifteen minutes of the movie.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I was so blown away in the first
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes I was like, Okay, all my favorite shit
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: is like happening right now.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: I do have to say her favorite like kill that
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 3: fucking train sequence where the dude has his face pushed
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 3: up against the.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: The moving subway car. Yeeah, that was that was brutal.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: Let me see I wrote down my favorite kill. It
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: was yeah, Yeah, Dragonetti's kill was so metal. Oh oh
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: my god. And now now you have to realize about
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: this movie, unfortunately, that this seed the really the only
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: issue I had was the CG not aging very well.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: But also it didn't look bad, you know what I mean.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: I've seen I'm definitely seen worse, but it wasn't. I
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't like, I wasn't mad at it, but I was like, cool,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: that is a little rough, but uh it did. It
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: did hold up decently, definitely better than like, you know,
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat Annihilation, which we won't talk about. But that's
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: really my only that's really my only gripe with this
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: movie was the CG. Everything else was it was so
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: well done and the kills were creative, and uh, Wesley
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: Snipes was rocking ship Man.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: Except for me, I had some issues with the pacting.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 3: But I'm also gonna say this movie is worth a
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: rewatch because I don't know if my patient issues came
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: from the fact that I was just so I've just
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: started a new job, so I've been exhausted from that.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 3: Plus I just went swimming that day, so like I was,
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 3: I was just getting.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: Tired, just burnt out from the day.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: It might have just been burnt out because like I
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 3: did enjoy the movie, I think I only gave it
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: three stars in letterboxed.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting okay, and I feel.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 3: Like I can even see my me raising up to
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: three and a half because I did like the movie
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 3: and what I my my biggest gripe at the time
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: of it was the movie is super fucking cool. There's
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: no you can't deny that, Like, you know, the Blades
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 3: look is incredible, This fucking cars incredible, Chris Christopherson is
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: Whistler incredible. It just felt long, really yeah, that was
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: my biggest thing is it's just felt long. I do,
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 3: I do. I also fouled Stephen dorf character Deacon Frost
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: be really funny because he just felt like the amalgamation
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 3: of every emo character ever. And I was like, man,
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: it's how did Deacon Frost not become the Edward Cullen
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: of his day? Like how is every girl not like
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: like writing miss Deacon Frost and their trapper keeper and
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: every dude wanted to be him with that like his
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: fucking crazy hair and shit.
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: Dude, that hair was wild. It was just like strands
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: down in his face, but it was stylized in a
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: way that it didn't look like he was.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: My wife likes to talk about like times in specifically
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 3: and like the late nineties, early two thousands where people's
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: hair just looked wet all the time, and that was
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: the look like there was like this blonde vampire wearing
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: nothing but like white clothing and her hair just looked
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: like she just got out of the shower for the
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 3: entire movie.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very like, uh, what's Oh my god,
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: what's her face? From Matrix? I can't believe I'm blanking
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: on Trinity from the Matrix was just slicked back.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: What I think is crazy. This movie came out before
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 3: the Matrix.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one year one year before the Matrix.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, so it's like you watched this, it's like, man,
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: the Matrix. Granted maybe there they might have already been
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 3: in production and everything, but yeah, man, either one of
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: two things, either the Matrix owes Blade some credit or
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: or which is more this is the more likely option.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: Probably both movies were were in production on the same time.
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sure because with a year with a year difference,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: I doubt they the Wachowskis were able to see Blade,
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: be inspired by Yeah, and then get everything made like it.
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 3: Just they both seem to tap into the zeitgeist of
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 3: what movie audiences were looking for at this time period.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 3: Everything and from their like their cyberpunk like aesthetic. Like
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: both movies kind of like, you know, they knew they people.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: They both movies knew people wanted to see ship in
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: slow motion, they wanted to see hot people and fucking leather.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't we all.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: They knew all this shit, Like and what I found,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: I'm pulling up my I did write a couple of notes.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, man, one of the notes I had
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: was like, this movie is filled with nothing but grunting
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 3: muscles and people holding hands because I remember there being
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 3: multiple a couple of times people were just holding hands
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 3: with each other and I don't know why, but I
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 3: was into it.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I was, like I said, I was
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: just so taken back by how how just aggressively the
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: movie starts. I mean, You're almost instantly thrown into a
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: fight scene and I'm like, this is third a shit
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: right here? What's going on?
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: Minute of the movie made me laugh because you know,
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: like they bring up the titles and you see Wesley
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: Snipes all in red, Stephen Dorf all in red, and
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: then the same exact size is She'll Blade. But I
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: was like, wait, is Blade an actor? Because why is
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 3: it in the same fought the same size, and like,
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 3: is everything else, like you should have made Blade just
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 3: a couple, not just you know, like just to separate
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 3: a little.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: Bit, just like a couple.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: Is there an actor in your name Blade?
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, the main guy's Blade. Yeah. It was kind
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: of weird. I noticed that too. I was like, that
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: was kind of anti climactic. I know, it's should have
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: been much bigger, like Blade or something fade in, fade out,
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: good Grief. I did like so. And it's funny too
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: with vampire movies, because you know, every the lore is
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: so different with all of them, but this seemed to
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: kind of stick to you know, vampires don't like the sun,
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: especially UV lights in this movie allergic to silver, but
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: crosses in this universe don't.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: I'm amused that they can either put on sunscreen or
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: they can put on makeup and be fine.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember at one point I'm like, you
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: guys are outside, how are you doing this? And then
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: they just like put on motor type.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: I love the idea. I like the idea that it's makeup. Yeah,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 3: And because like I love that dragon Eddie udle Kir's character,
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 3: he had a tan. He looked fine. Everyone else though,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: all these younger new vampires are all pasty. I love
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 3: the idea that this is an intentional look that they've chosen. Yeah,
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 3: but they actually aren't that pale. Vampires aren't that pale.
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 3: But they're like, we are the new vampires, and they
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 3: put on makeup to make themselves look like that. That's
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 3: what I choose to believe is that like they blend
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 3: in a lot more seamlessly. But you know, Deacon Frost
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 3: is like, we need a look.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he stand out. Oh yeah, they definitely had a
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: look that they were going for. And you know, he's
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: like the kind of you know, vampire going against the rules.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: And he's also he's also what they call not a
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: pure blood because he was he was turned. So there's
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: people that are born vampires in this movie, and then
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: there's people that are turned and they're like, you know,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: I guess those would be like the half bloods, you know,
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: equivalent to like Harry Potter or whatever. Which I thought
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: that was pretty cool too, because that's something I've never
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: really seen in vampire lore, is something that was explained
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: like that, like pure bloods and people who are turned
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: aren't considered you know, they're like the new vampires, and
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: then they also wasn't there also like a cure at
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: some point during this movie for people that were turned,
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: but not people that were born as vampires. So there's
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of levels to this movie that it really
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: worked and did stuff with vampires that I hadn't seen.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: They might exist because I haven't seen everything, but I
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: like the stuff that they did differently in this movie
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: while still sticking true to most of the vampire lore.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, so you thought it was a
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: little long two hours, and I mean I had two hours, And.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 3: It's not necessarily that the length was along it just
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 3: at the time when I was watching it, it just
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 3: I could feel that run time. But I'm also going
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: to track it up to the fact that, like I said,
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: I just I might not have been in the best
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 3: headspace for it, because I've seen movies where I felt
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: this way about them and then I've returned to and
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 3: it was like and I didn't feel those problems. And
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 3: there's also been movies where I loved the first time
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 3: and the second time like nah, yeah not for me, Yeah,
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 3: I don't. I felt about the first Jurassic World the
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 3: first time I saw I had a great time with it,
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 3: and then every subsequent time I've watched it.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: Like I liked it less, It's okay, yeah, interesting. That's
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 1: just so funny because we kind of had different different
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: experiences because I was so into it. I was on
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: the edge of my seat a lot of the times.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: I found myself just like completely because sometimes you know,
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: it's easy to get distracted by your phone when you're
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: watching movies. But I was like hooked into this movie
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: the whole time. First time I paused, it was like
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: an hour and twenty to peak, and I'm like, holy shit,
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: this is like almost over. So it's funny that we have,
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we had different experiences. I
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: thought the pacing's pretty good. You thought it was so
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: was there just parts of it for you that were
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: just a little chunky or that just didn't like, Like
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 3: Feel like it sometimes took its time to get to
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 3: where it's going, okay, yeah, or like I just felt
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 3: like they could have removed ten twenty minutes of this
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: movie and it just would have made it tighter. Yeah,
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 3: And at times just the plot just felt like a
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 3: little convoluted, and and I just kept thinking like, man,
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: if we could just trim some of the fat in
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: this movie. I think it would.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, is there a specific is there a
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: specific part you were talking about, like a specifically some.
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 3: I just feel like some of the subplot with Blade
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out his origins could have, oh yeah,
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 3: just could have been smoother. The dynamic between Blade and
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: the female co star I can't think of her name
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 3: at the moment didn't always resonate with me, because especially
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 3: because Blade at times felt like he was giving mixed
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 3: signals to the point where he saved her, but then
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: was very much like we're on your own now, and
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: I just and I couldn't figure out what they were
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 3: trying to do with that character. And then it started
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 3: off they put started putting it all together. I don't know,
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 3: it just is some of that and then and this
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: is this is just an issue I have with some
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 3: action films, especially from this time period. Sometimes some of
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: these those those fight sequences just go on for too long.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: You're not wrong, Yeah.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: That being said, I thought the fight choreography in this
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 3: film was actually pretty incredible because it felt like the
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 3: people who are putting these scenes together truly gable fuck.
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: And that's something that I can't say I have seen
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 3: anything Marvel related in a while. The last time I
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 3: have seen like a fight sequence play out where I
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 3: thought the people truly gave a fuck was Season one
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: of Daredevil.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: Is that the God? I don't the one on Netflix? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 1: I still haven't seen that one. I'm excited for that
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: because I guess I gotta watch that. But we're getting
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: you know what, is it? Another limited series of that
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: with eighteen episodes? Oh? Oh my god. Yeah. They really
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: definitely went all in on this with everything. There was
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of good There's a lot of creative use
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: of CG that.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very creative use for that, especially for the time.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 3: Like I said, and I should specify, I didn't dislike
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 3: the movie. I just wasn't head over heels for it.
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 3: I liked this. I'd probably end up buying it, and
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 3: I'd definitely rewatch it.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: It just.
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 3: It just didn't blow me the way it blowed me away. Interesting, Okay,
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 3: it is better than some of the other ones that
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 3: I professed love for. It is better than the Ben
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 3: Affleck Daredevil movie in every way, shape and form. I
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 3: just have a fondness for that because I grew up
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: with it, but it's a better movie than that. It's
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 3: a better movie then might I think it's even probably
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 3: a better movie than most the X Men's sequels. It's
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 3: just for whatever reason my time watching it at this
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 3: this most recent times, like, hey, this is a good
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 3: fucking movie. I just wasn't. I just didn't love it.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: I would love to, uh, whenever you do rewatch, just
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: check in with you, just to see if anything changed.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: Because you said you gave it a three. Bruh, I like,
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 1: I give it.
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 3: I could see it. I could see just even after
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 3: this conversation going up to about a three and a half,
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: I won't.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: Watch okay because I get I gave it a four
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: and a half because I just like, dude, this is
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 1: this like checks every single box and as like I said,
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: besides the kind of SCG and some kind of flat
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: characters throughout, like you said, some there's a little bit
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: of unnecessary storyline. That's why I didn't give it a five.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: But dude, I loved it, and it's I think it's
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: gonna be funny because if we do both rewatch, I'm
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 1: wondering if mine's gonna go down at all, and how
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: much yours is gonna go up. I'm really I'm really curious.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, you came off the high of watching
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 3: a really fucking good movie. Yeah, and I and I
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 3: get that, And like I said, I just want to
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 3: really keep specifying that, it's not that I disliked this
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 3: movie at all. Right, it's just, like I said, just
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 3: didn't work on me as well as I was expected to.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hadn't. I didn't really know what to
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: expect because I don't really know the source material. I
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: just know it's Wesley Snipes looking like a badass and
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: he's like half vampire, which is cool. And I did
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 1: kind of like the explanation of that of how he
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: came to be so essentially, when his mom was pregnant
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: with him, she got bit by a vampire died during childbirth,
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: but he survived, so he was like, you know, he
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: has the cravings for blood, but he's okay with like
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: the garlic or whatever. He can go in sunlight. So
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: it was interesting to see a half vampiric person. I
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: thought that was pretty Like I said, the story itself
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 1: to me was just so like completely original. I just
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, I just I was so
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: into it, and a lot of good fight scenes. I
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: mean seriously, that first one that we saw about a
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: couple minutes in, Like I said, I was like, this
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: is third act level of commitment. Holy shit. Like I
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: was just immediately blown away by all the stuff they
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: were doing, trying to think of some other fun parts
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: that were good. Oh, his sword too, and.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 3: Then like I was waiting for it, like when they
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 3: first showed that it like the hilt can like gross
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 3: has spike shot out of it, and like, oh, that's
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 3: gonna pay off in a really oh yeah. And I
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 3: loved the running joke of of donah Log's character Quinn
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 3: just losing his hands.
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: He loses one grows it back.
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 3: Is one of my favorite parts of this movie. It's
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 3: like he is the gift that keeps on giving in
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: this movie.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: And especially when uh Deacon Frost went to go He's like, here,
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: get put out your arm and he goes to cut
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 1: off his arm again and he holds his sword up
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: and goes He's like, no, I'm just kidding. That was
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: so fucking funny because I thought he was gonna chop
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: off his hands again. It's like, no, I'm just kidding.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 1: It's like that was unnecessary.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 3: The especially it works for the time period, like the
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 3: like the like addition of like all like this like
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 3: computery hacker shit.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like I found that really amusing, Like oh,
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: we gonna learn about this ancient vampire god through a computer? Yeah,
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 3: which was you know, like I guess there is ancient
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 3: text and everything. I was I loved, like how like
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 3: super advanced, like these vampires are. I just found that.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 3: But it was like you guys, I guess you guys
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 3: had a lot of time we running up on computers.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, you guys have been around for so long.
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 1: Recy was like La Magra. I think it was like
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: they needed twelve souls to resurrect this ancient vampire thing
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 1: and you know they get bladeded, you know, draw his
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: blood and stuff like that. It was just so wild.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: By the time the third act came around, I was
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 1: like this is like, uh, it's pretty awesome. It's it
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: is a little heavy with plot, you know, so you
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: do have to be paying attention if you're if you're
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: not fully focused, it might.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 3: And maybe that might have been some of it too,
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 3: because I was I was like ready for like I
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 3: don't want to say, dumb action movie, because that's that
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 3: down plays what this movie is trying to do. I
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 3: guess I just wasn't expecting it to be as dense
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 3: as it was. Yeah, that might have been what was
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 3: affecting my overall enjoyment because I was, you know, because
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 3: like when this movie works, it works so fucking well.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 3: It's just I guess during some of these more like
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 3: exposition he scenes, like that's when it wasn't working as
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 3: well for me, Like the fact that, like I think
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 3: Whistler had like a I felt like a five minute
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 3: seemed just explaining everything. It's like, oh, yeah, affect ways
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: When he was explaining it to oh my god, yeah,
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: what was her name? Oh my god, I should know this.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: I told I talked about her. But yeah, when he's
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: talking to what's her face? About Blade and his condition
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: and how he became a vampire, Yeah, that was a
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: whole and like he went in, that was like a
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: five minute monologue of him just explaining stuff that probably
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: could have been shortened.
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 3: Down or explained after Karen Jensen there we go.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was explaining, you know, his Blade's condition
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: and everything he has to do to keep him alive
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 1: because you know, Whistler found him when he was there.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 3: And I loved that they kept cutting back to him,
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 3: just like sitting stoically in the corner and like meditating
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 3: and ship.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so Whistler found him, I guess when he
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: was a kid on the streets and he kind of
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: took him in under his wing and has been taking
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: care of Blade for ages now because he also ages
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: like a human, he doesn't age like a vampire. So addition, yeah,
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: so just combining those aspects of human and vampire together
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: was just very interesting on top of what was going
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: on in the story with La Maagra or Marger or
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 1: whatever it was called and summoning this ancient like vampiric entity.
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: So there was just, yeah, there was a lot. There
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 1: was a lot going on for sure, And I guess
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: if I hadn't been paying attention, I probably would have
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: been like this movie was not as good as I
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 1: wanted to But I didn't even pick up my phone.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: I was like hooked into it. I was like, this
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: is so cool, So I'm excited to check out Blade too.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: But I know, like I know, I've just seen the
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 1: ratings on Trinity, so I'm not super super stoked for that.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: But I've heard Blade two was pretty.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 3: Solidad toast del Toro Del Toro.
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you can't go wrong with Del Toro.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's gonna be a movie. We'll probably have
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: to review it a later time. But yeah, this this movie, seriously,
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: it's it was a lot of fun. I like that
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: we had different experiences because that's good for listeners.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 3: And I still I want to say I I still
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 3: highly recommend it.
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I have the four K back here somewhere,
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the four K looks fantastic the sound mix
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: on it. For me, how did you watch it? Did
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: you watch it like digitally or did.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 3: You have I watched I watched it on HBO Max
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 3: HBO Max.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 3: Actually really impressed with the sonic quality of it. HBO Max.
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 3: He's currently has some of the I think best picture
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 3: and on audio streaming quality, and let's helped this Discovery
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 3: plus merger doesn't fuck that up.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of nervous about that, but I will
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: agree HBO Max.
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 3: Right now, HBO is like the best streamer out there.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 1: It is not not only do they have like the
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: best content and shows and movies they have, Yeah, some
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: of the best looking quality and uh you know, good
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: sound as well. But yeah, I really enjoy I think
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: I had seven to one on I think, I mean,
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: I think the four k is and utmost but with
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: downgrades on my system. But it sounded amazing, looked amazing.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: Still you're still using the seven to one soundbar.
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: Combo, Yeah, so it still sounded great. But I would
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear it like a streaming.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 3: Streaming for the most part other than it's you know,
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 3: is five five point one five point one with at
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 3: most And like I said, it really gave my speakers
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: a workout and nice because usually what I do is
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 3: I try to set my volume so that it's comfortable
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 3: that I can hear dialogue, and then my hope is
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 3: that everything else is in blow me it does, you know,
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 3: raised too high for decibel, So I try to find
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 3: a nice level and it's like I love the action
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 3: scenes were nice and loud. Yeah, And I'm also an
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 3: audio nerd who tries to protect my hearing, So I
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 3: have a sound pressure level meter out on my watch
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 3: so that way I get a notification if my volume
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 3: tips too high for too long of a period of time,
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 3: so I know, take down notch or two.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: Nice okay?
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 3: And uh and the scenes were great and they're nice
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 3: and loud, but dialogue, clarity was stellar and just yeah,
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 3: good sound stage. More this is all nerdy shit that
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 3: no one cares about, but it sounded really good.
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, I thought it was well balanced because a
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: lot of times movies will be very low with dialogue
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: and very high with like intense moments, but this was
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 1: very balanced all the way through and I really enjoyed it.
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: So this is a movie I will highly recommend. You
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: can check it out on HBO Max. You can buy
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: the four K. You can buy the Blu rays it's available.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 1: You can buy the fucking triple feature with all three
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 1: of them in there on Amazon if you want. But yeah,
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: I can't recommend this movie enough.
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 3: And oh and the four K gets a really high
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 3: recommendation from a friend of mine. Oh okay named Stephen B. Yorke.
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 3: He he yeah, he's he's. I think he wrote a
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 3: review about it for one of the websites he writes for,
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 3: and he had a lot of really good stuff to
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 3: say about it.
• 2:32:52
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• 2:32:58
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• 2:32:59
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• 2:33:23
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• 2:33:24
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• 2:33:28
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  Speaker 3: very popular horror one called Twitch of the Death Nerve.
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  Speaker 3: You'll find a cinema smorgasboard, the Aforemen send a Punk's
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  Speaker 3: their their own in house podcast, and a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: other cool shit.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. You can find us
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook too, at Frightmar's podcast, Instagram and slasher app
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  Speaker 1: at fright Mare's Underscore pod. Nope, that's Twitter, Just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: doctor Procter on letterbox. What is your handle name tag
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  Speaker 1: on letterbox?
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  Speaker 3: Sir, it's Virus ten two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 1: Virus ten two thousand and eight. I love it, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and Corey will be back next week finally doing the
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  Speaker 1: tie W joint and then after that who knows. So
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  Speaker 1: tune in next week and stay spooky everybody,