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Best of Chuck in the Morning 8-17 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Lady and gentlemen, Welcome to Chaos.
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  Speaker 5: Did you hear now?
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  Speaker 6: We're on long time for the action?
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  Speaker 5: Never stop?
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  Speaker 6: Are you writing this stuff? Something completed? This is Chuck
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  Speaker 6: in the morning. You people are beyond Let's go.
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  Speaker 7: Let's get the game off.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, great morning to you. Welcome in. It is a Monday.
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  Speaker 6: It is your favorite radio station, Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 6: point three kk r f M. My name is Chuck
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  Speaker 6: pal Great to have you with us.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you had a wonderful weekend, and as good
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  Speaker 1: a weekend as you had, You're not gonna have as
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  Speaker 1: good a week as Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you that.
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  Speaker 1: Much gave that the truth. You already give up on that,
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  Speaker 1: give up the ghost. It ain't happening. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: what you do. You can throw a party with thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight of your favorite human beings and celebrities. It ain't
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  Speaker 1: gonna match what Ashley's got planned for this week.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to Hawaiian.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, look at that. Yeah. See see it's Wednesday, so
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  Speaker 6: you're off tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I never do this either.
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  Speaker 1: And you have Palmer the Great with you here today. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So as soon as I saw you, I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, they're gonna get on a plane as soon
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  Speaker 1: as the show's opened.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, she just wanted to come in.
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  Speaker 6: She's that wrong.
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  Speaker 8: I haven't gotten to go to work with you all summer.
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  Speaker 8: She starts school in a couple of weeks, so she
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  Speaker 8: wanted to come in.
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  Speaker 2: She wanted to see you. She missed you a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: She wanted to come in on a day you were
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  Speaker 2: in studio. She didn't want to come in on a
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  Speaker 2: day that you were great.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And then we and I never take the day off
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  Speaker 8: before vacation or after vacation. It's always pretty to do
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  Speaker 8: same way, right, Like, we always go to work till
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  Speaker 8: the last minute you can go, and then you're off
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  Speaker 8: to the airport and there you go. And this year
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  Speaker 8: I was like, why why am I gonna stress myself out?
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  Speaker 8: I'm gonna take the day off before we fly out,
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  Speaker 8: And I take the day off after we fly out,
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  Speaker 8: which already has proven to be a good choice because
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  Speaker 8: our flight already got pushed back from.
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  Speaker 2: We won't get home to like eleven that night.
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  Speaker 6: It really is like, I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 1: When we try to take trips, we think to ourselves,
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  Speaker 1: you got to maximize the entire time that you're there,
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  Speaker 1: where the truth of the matter is if you shorten
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  Speaker 1: it up a little bit and you give yourself a
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  Speaker 1: little window beginning and end, it's.
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  Speaker 6: A so much more enjoyable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I rest. Yeah, every time you come home.
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  Speaker 8: You're like, oh, so tired now because I just packed
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  Speaker 8: everything in there.
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  Speaker 1: And there's nothing more tiring to me than travel. Like
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  Speaker 1: the day travel day. Yeah, oh travel day? Do I
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  Speaker 1: rue travel day?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Damn you.
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  Speaker 2: Travel day.
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  Speaker 1: And home from travel day is great. Like even before
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  Speaker 1: the day before is stressful because you're thinking about the
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  Speaker 1: time it takes.
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  Speaker 6: Before you have to do travel day.
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  Speaker 5: Ye.
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  Speaker 1: So, and that stresses me out as soon as you
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  Speaker 1: get home and you're like, oh, I got a day
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  Speaker 1: and a.
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  Speaker 2: Half yeah, gone in my own bed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, lovely exactly. You know, Palmer can catch up
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  Speaker 1: on all of her shows.
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  Speaker 8: And oh yeah, she's already been downloading it, and we
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  Speaker 8: spent yesterday getting making sure the devices were.
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  Speaker 6: Ready to go perfect well good.
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  Speaker 8: And talking about snacks, because snacks are very important when
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  Speaker 8: you're traveling.
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  Speaker 6: Snacks are pretty much important at all times.
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  Speaker 2: It's true, Yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 6: It's one of the most important things in life.
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  Speaker 8: She's already checked out the vending machine here today to
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  Speaker 8: make sure the snacks are up to par.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I hear all the time that the most important thing
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  Speaker 1: in life is family. I think it's snacks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Those people that are only worried about family are starving
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  Speaker 8: all the time.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that family is not important. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's the least in the top thirteen things in life,
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  Speaker 1: I would think so, But snacks is clearly ahead of it,
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  Speaker 1: and snacks with family forget about it.
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  Speaker 6: All right, Well, great morning to you all. Great to
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  Speaker 6: have you with us.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go on this Monday morning, and it turns
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  Speaker 1: out we still have a baseball team with a pulse,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll certainly be talking some Mariners baseball today. But
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  Speaker 1: also we got so many Seahawks topics to discuss during
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  Speaker 1: today's show, and we're bringing out our big guns to
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  Speaker 1: do it. We got a little Monday Morning quarterback session today.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to be full scale, but we got
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  Speaker 1: a full hour with Hugh today, our first Monday Morning
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  Speaker 1: quarterback session of the season. Also, Greg Bell will be
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  Speaker 1: by here in a little bit. I'll tell you more
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  Speaker 1: about that with what's on tap here in a little bit. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things to discuss, as we have now
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  Speaker 1: seen the twenty twenty six Seattle Seahawks play football for
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  Speaker 1: the first time a preseason game Saturday night against the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 6: And I'll say this, it is.
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  Speaker 1: One of the more difficult things for me as a
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  Speaker 1: sports talk show host to get through because not only
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  Speaker 1: is it a preseason game, which we talked about last week,
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  Speaker 1: but I also kind of knew all the results and
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  Speaker 1: then watched it the next day in two different segments
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  Speaker 1: and took diligent notes so that I.
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  Speaker 8: Am ready like had to even be like pause right,
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  Speaker 8: pause rewind.
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  Speaker 1: I did get to fast forward through a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the commercials, but I didn't get to fast forward through
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  Speaker 1: the twenty two penalties that were called in the game.
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  Speaker 6: That's one thing I was stuck with. Your weekend, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: Sunday was pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Much like Seahawks Mariners. Seahawks, it's the first half then
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners, so that their Sunday. Yeah, yeah, anyway, can
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  Speaker 1: I come with you to Hawaii?
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  Speaker 2: There's room and Palmerson case. I'm sure kidding. She's got
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  Speaker 2: the biggest suitcase of everyone, and it'll be full.
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  Speaker 6: She's looking at you like, no, there's not room for her.
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  Speaker 2: Room in there.
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  Speaker 6: There's no way, there's no room.
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  Speaker 8: For She's like, I've got my packing cubes, I've got
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  Speaker 8: my suit, my stuffy I've got to put in there.
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  Speaker 6: I can't fit a human, especially one as large as him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't ask you to put budget.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. It's not like we asked you to put
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  Speaker 1: Bucky in your suitcase.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that would have been impossible.
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  Speaker 6: That would not have fit in the overhead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have had to check that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. And then we would have to pay
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  Speaker 2: extra for being over fit.
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  Speaker 6: Oh for sure, for sure, a lot extra probably. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, So we got some preseason football that will
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  Speaker 1: break down for you in And I think that the
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  Speaker 1: lead story from it all, uh is that Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: was so noticeably disappointed after the game was over, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean to me, it looked like sloppy football, featuring
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  Speaker 1: your second string for some of the game, but it
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  Speaker 1: was mostly played by third stringers. Let's face it, third
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  Speaker 1: and fourth stringers, and a lot of them playing professional
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  Speaker 1: football for the first time. But he didn't wait long
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  Speaker 1: in his post game remarks to express his disappointment. It
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  Speaker 1: came right out right before he even answered any questions.
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  Speaker 1: And I think part of it was him kind of
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  Speaker 1: being a little angry with his coaches. And that's one
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  Speaker 1: thing that we've kind of learned here recently, is how
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  Speaker 1: hard he is on his coaches and so he was
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  Speaker 1: not calling defensive plays for the first time. He wanted
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  Speaker 1: adding Dardap to get a little time calling plays, but
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  Speaker 1: he also said I'll be doing it next week because
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  Speaker 1: I too have to practice at it. But he was
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  Speaker 1: very disappointed in pre snap and he was very disappointed
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  Speaker 1: in the pace that they were at and getting plays in.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of that was frustrating him.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe that is usually I'm so busy with calling
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  Speaker 1: the place that it's bothering me not to have complete control,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm noticing more.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe that's what it had to do with.
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  Speaker 1: But it didn't take him very long to throw throw
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  Speaker 1: the team under the bus from a stand under the bus.
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  Speaker 1: We've got things to work on was pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: message that he delivered right off the bat.
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  Speaker 8: I mean in preseason one postgame, he delivered more than
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  Speaker 8: we've heard from Dan.
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  Speaker 2: Wilson all year.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's for sure.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And but I did find it fast.
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  Speaker 6: Once did he say tough one, tough one to night
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  Speaker 6: they fought till the end?
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  Speaker 8: But I and I bring that up, yes, tongue in cheek,
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  Speaker 8: but at the same time, like just to show the
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  Speaker 8: complete difference, right, and that we've got this guy that is.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, we've seen him now in two episodes of
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  Speaker 8: Hard Knocks, and he's a little bit more of a
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  Speaker 8: hard ass than I thought he was, Yeah, and which
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  Speaker 8: I appreciate because.
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  Speaker 2: I you got to me, yeah yeah, yeah, especially in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL.
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  Speaker 8: And so I just but you know, and then just
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  Speaker 8: to see how seriously he takes it. I mean, we
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  Speaker 8: already know, you know that he's going into this season.
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  Speaker 8: We are not thinking about last season. It does not
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  Speaker 8: matter what we did last season. We were doing the
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  Speaker 8: ring ceremony months ago. We are focused on this and
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  Speaker 8: he knows how hard their job is this year to
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  Speaker 8: go back and try to keep your title.
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  Speaker 6: Oh sure, so, I.
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  Speaker 8: Mean so I appreciate that he's doing it, but I
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  Speaker 8: also couldn't help but laugh, Like, all right, it was
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  Speaker 8: a preseason game. I mean, it doesn't it's not a
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  Speaker 8: real game, Aaron Rodgers said it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you are running a lot of guys out
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  Speaker 1: there that are playing for the very first time. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: your entire offensive line did not play. You didn't let
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold take a single snap. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: just an all star team on the sidelines. And I
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  Speaker 1: do love how into it they all are, the veterans
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  Speaker 1: like there to support down to the last guy. I
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  Speaker 1: think that probably there were a lot of Seahawk fans
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  Speaker 1: kind of bored with a preseason game. Certainly by third quarter,
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I would imagine that you were, But the
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  Speaker 1: players weren't, right, I mean, they were having They were
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  Speaker 1: like locked in, and they were there for all the
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  Speaker 1: backups and were there to kind of root them on
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  Speaker 1: to the very final whistle, which is good, and so
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  Speaker 1: that speaks to the culture. Then they did actually speak
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  Speaker 1: to the culture during the course of the game with
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  Speaker 1: the interviews they did with cliff on the sidelines, but
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  Speaker 1: that certainly he was not happy with, not just the
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  Speaker 1: pace in which they got ready for each play, he
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  Speaker 1: said that they didn't finish, did not like the tackling,
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  Speaker 1: did not like the blocking, finishing each play, and then
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  Speaker 1: when asked about the quarterback play, he said, well, scored
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  Speaker 1: seven points.
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  Speaker 6: That's how good the quarterbacks were.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean he he did offer some criticism
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  Speaker 1: and obviously was fairly frustrated, spent most though of the
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  Speaker 1: postgame comments talking about Devin Witherspoon, which get it to
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  Speaker 1: in a moment.
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  Speaker 6: But it was, uh, I mean, it's a preseason opener.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it is. There were a couple
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  Speaker 1: of things that stood out to me. Number One, Tyree
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  Speaker 1: Knight was probably the best guy on the field last night.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like he was everywhere, and Mike even referenced
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  Speaker 1: that afterwards, said he was our best football player tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And it's always like good like because I sit there
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I know he's in every play. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but are they picking on him, like, you know, yes,
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  Speaker 1: is there because they think he's weak? Is there something
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying here that you will have to inform
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  Speaker 1: me about on Monday, So it was nice to say
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's sort of rubber stamp my thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like Tyree's Knight was everywhere aggressive and played
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  Speaker 1: well and and Mike McDonald certainly backed that up. Montory Foster,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Greg Bell told us, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: anybody else was talking about Montory Foster junior as much
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  Speaker 1: as what Greg Bell was this prese and you saw
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  Speaker 1: why he was creating a little bit of buzz. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was pretty much the only receiver the Seahawks at
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  Speaker 1: Milroe and Locke, and I say both of them because
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  Speaker 1: they alternated like two possessions at a time. He was
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  Speaker 1: pretty much the only receiver once Jake Bobo came out
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  Speaker 1: of the game. It was like all Jake Bobo early
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  Speaker 1: and then all Montory Foster late. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if our backup quarterbacks have tunnel vision they can only
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  Speaker 1: look at one wide receiver, or if Bobo was really
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  Speaker 1: the best guy in the first group, and Foster was
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  Speaker 1: the best guy.
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  Speaker 6: For the rest of the game.
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  Speaker 1: But he certainly got targeted five catches thirty six yards,
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  Speaker 1: scored the only touchdown in the game, and was targeted
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  Speaker 1: seven times in the contest. He did have a drop,
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  Speaker 1: but he had a great catch for a first down
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  Speaker 1: that he held on to as well, and so he showed out.
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  Speaker 1: Those are two people that I think starred if you
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  Speaker 1: Will in the preseason opener.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I do like when you starred if you Will,
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  Speaker 8: because yeah, it is it is a different situation. It's
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  Speaker 8: not like, ohd fantasy football players go out and draft
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  Speaker 8: mon Tory Foster because he's going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 8: crushing it for the Seahawks. But I will say in
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  Speaker 8: terms of what he was asked to do in a
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  Speaker 8: preseason game and how well he delivered, I think it's
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  Speaker 8: promising because we do need more wide receivers than just
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  Speaker 8: JSN and Cooper Cutt.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if there's room for him on
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  Speaker 6: this team.
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe that's one of the thoughts that I had,
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  Speaker 1: that they just showcase him for somebody else who doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a go to a wide receiver room as what
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks have at this point. Return game was good,
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  Speaker 1: coverage game was good. Those things stood out to me.
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  Speaker 1: And then on the other side of it, Shamar Jean
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  Speaker 1: Charles just had a nightmare of a game. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if the Cowboys made a good play Saturday night, number
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  Speaker 1: thirty four was in the picture, and so and he.
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  Speaker 2: Has a great name.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, but I don't know if that's going
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  Speaker 1: to help you when it comes to cut day.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely not.
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  Speaker 1: But he definitely had a rough game, and so we'll
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  Speaker 1: be able to break all that down with Hugh and
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  Speaker 1: with Greg. He will be with us from eight to
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  Speaker 1: nine and Greg at seven oh five. But there were
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  Speaker 1: other headlines that kind of stole the show since we
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  Speaker 1: last were on the air Friday morning, Terry and Arnold
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  Speaker 1: and Devin Witherspoon.
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  Speaker 6: Let's start with Witherspoon. He did get his deal.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a four year deal, but it was
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  Speaker 1: more per year than what was I think anticipated, what
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  Speaker 1: thirty three million dollars per year. I think we were
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  Speaker 1: thinking in the range of thirty one. So he drove
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  Speaker 1: a hard bargain. I can't wait to ask Greg more
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  Speaker 1: about this, because when the story first broke, it was
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  Speaker 1: Adam Schefter's story that I saw first. He might not
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  Speaker 1: have been the person that broke it, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but it's the story that I saw first. And he's
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  Speaker 1: said in the release that it turned heated before it
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  Speaker 1: actually got resolved, So I don't know why how. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it got heated between the agent and
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  Speaker 1: the general manager, I don't know if Mike and Spoon
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  Speaker 1: were completely out of that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. But obviously they weren't just looking for
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  Speaker 6: one dollar more than.
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  Speaker 1: The last guy who was named the highest paid cornerback
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  Speaker 1: in the league. They were looking to at least push
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  Speaker 1: that bar a little bit higher, and they got that accomplished. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it might have cost him a year to only go
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  Speaker 1: four years on the extension, or maybe that was by design.
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  Speaker 1: We want to be able to get another big contract
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  Speaker 1: before Devin Witherspoon is too old to make a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money. So I don't know what went into it,
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  Speaker 1: but it sounds like Spoon and his agent got a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more out of John than what we thought
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  Speaker 1: they were and what the market thought that they would get.
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  Speaker 1: And so good on them, because John Schneider is not
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  Speaker 1: a guy that loses to and those negotiations.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 8: And that's one of the things I'm most excited to
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  Speaker 8: see when this next episode of Hard Knocks comes comes out,
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  Speaker 8: is kind of get more information on what really happened there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that'll be fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I mean, I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: realized that you do have to make a deal. You're
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: in the deal making business. But the reason, but the
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: end result is you really wanted the player. You were
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: prepared to break the bank to keep it right. And Okay,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: maybe they got a little bit more than what you
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: had scripted out for your cap for the rest of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the season or won't even affect you this season for
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: future years, maybe they got a little bit more out
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: of you. But I mean Mike McDonald's kids wearing Devin
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon's jersey on the first day of training camp.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew. He's not an ordinary player.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: He's not an ordinary player, and he's absolutely beloved and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: he's part of the fabric of what Mike McDonald has
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: built in two short years. Sounds like he is the
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: quintessential type of player that Mike McDonald wanted to build
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: his program around. Uh And frankly, you know, not a
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: lot of guys when they're waiting for their contract or
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: in negotiations, go out there and practice every snap every
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: day at practice. I mean, even Bobby Wagner famously did
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the hold in which a lot of people have copied
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: since that time. And he just stood on the sidelines
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: with his hoodie on and his hands in his pockets,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and he coached people, but he didn't actually participate and
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: risk any injury. And so even that, even that shows
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: you why Mike McDonald loves twenty one so much. And so, okay,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: maybe they got one over on you, Johnny. Maybe maybe
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: they did get a few extra dollars then you really
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to give. You thought you were given top dollar,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you know, make the highest paid cornerback in the league
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: for a while until Christian Gonzalez gets his deal, And
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: maybe they got a little bit more out of you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you wanted the player.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: You wanted to make him happy, you wanted to make
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: him rich, you wanted to him not to lose any
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: of his love for the Seahawks and Seahawks culture. And
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: if that took an extra million off the top, then
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: figure out how to make that work. Because you got
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: your player and he's staying and the defense is going
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to be better for having him.
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, Yet that million extra is worth much more
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: than losing him or pissing him off.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so congratulations to Spoon. They also signed Terarrian Arnold
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: over the weekend as well, which has a lot of
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: people excited and a lot of people scratching their heads.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm more in the scratching my head category. I'm not
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: angry about it, certainly, But we'll talk more about that
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: later on in the show as well as we get
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: started here on this Monday. But a lot to discuss today,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: there's no question about it. A lot of things to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: pour over as we get ready for our final day
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of Seahawks training camp tomorrow, our final day of coverage
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: of training camp.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Obviously, we got.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Two more weeks of preseason football before we actually get
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to the opener, which is now just twenty three days away. Also,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: another very interesting note from that game. Yeah, I was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: reminded of how big Sam Howe's face is.
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: I was gonna, like, I was wondering how long she
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: chuck brings up a fat face owl.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It's not even really his head. It's when he takes
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: his helmet off and it just like his face just
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: spills out of it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: There is just something about it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It does look very squished in there too.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just something he just it's almost like doesn't
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: match the rest of his body.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: It's just like all face. He's like it's like he
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: where did you get him from? Easter Island? Like it's
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: it's just like he takes his helmet off and it
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: just his face.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: A lanch comes right out from the mask. It's just crazy.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: rest of the show. I have your attention, please. This
• 20:17
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• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Cowboys seventeen, Sea Hawks seven on Saturday Night. Preseason is underway, thankfully,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: only two more of these December through Nashville this week,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and it's not just for the game on Sunday, but
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to be doing those scrimmages otherwise known as fighting.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take another team to fight with.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So a lot of fights fight week this week.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell is going to be in Nashville all week
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: long to cover the fights, so we will talk to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: him about that at seven oh five today training camp.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: As I mentioned, final day for US is tomorrow out
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: at training camp, and then on Wednesday and Thursday, we're
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: gonna throw our arms around Husky's Camp. So Wednesday and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Thursday I'll be broadcasting from Husky's Camp. We have a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: bunch of special guests including Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and maybe a cast of thousands and some Husky players
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and Coach Fish and Coach Walters and Demon Williams Junior.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a couple of fun days, a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: couple fun mornings Wednesday and Thursday as we bring you
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Huskies Camp, and of course we're gonna spend some time
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: talking some baseball. Today, the Mariners do take two out
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of three in Houston.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: So close, so close to a sweep. I mean, it's a.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Sliding doors thing. You don't know if you win the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: game Friday, if you have the same fight on SAT,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. But man, the difference between winning
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: a series which keeps you a lot yep.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: And it was again it was an important series to
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: win because you're going against a division opponent.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And sweeping that division opponent and just chomping more than
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: half of their lead away from them to move down
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the stretch with I mean, it is a significant difference,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: but I asked the question last week sweep or die,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and it obviously is not that it wasn't where we
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: were not facing that much of an extreme. To get
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: two out of three kind of feels like, Yeah, you
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: announced to the world we're still in this. We're still
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in this, and the way you played was much better
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: than we've seen you play in a long, long time,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: which we'll get into here in.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: A little bit.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Four back in the American League West right now, two
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and a half games back in the wild Card, so
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: plenty of time to make up that distance. So we'll
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: talk about that coming up later on in the show.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we'll recap Sunday's game with
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Mariners morning after next on Sports Radio and ninety three
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: point three KJRFM.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Hey, great Mounday, morning to you.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Chuck and Ashley with you here on Sports Radio ninety
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. All sorts of Seahawks breakdown for
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you today.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: We've seen their preseason opener.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: We've got the Witherspoon story to discuss, We've got the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold story to discuss. Greg Bell will be
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: with us at seven o five as he typically is,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and Hugh Millan first Monday Morning quarterback session today from
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: eight to nine right here on Sports Radio ninety three
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: point three kJ R FM. But you know, we do
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: have Mariners baseball. We talked about the game that was
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: played yesterday the weekend, but I haven't talked about where
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: they stand right now, So let's get into that before
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: we start to dive and headlong into some football conversations
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: here this morning. The Mariners taking two out of three,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: four back in the American League Wildcard two and a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: half excuse me, in the American League West Race, two
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and a half back in the Wildcard. Still a preposterous
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: seven games under five hundred.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the part gross.
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, when we talked about this last week with
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: the nine games under five hundred, it was it's just
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: that's the part that's the sinking feeling. And if you
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: just focus on that, you're like, well, yeah, no, they're done,
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: they're cooked. But then it's the crazy thing that your
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: numbers are half that to win your division.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, still there, still alive. I said on Friday,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: sweep or die. And it's not that it's not as
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: clear cut as that. I think that had you lost
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the series, it might certainly feel over, and we've already
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: had conversations about that. But they are certainly still alive
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and they've got plenty of time to make up four games.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: And maybe the most encouraging part about this weekend is
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the edge that they played with, the urgency that they
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: played with, that they managed with. It felt it was
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: being managed like a playoff game yesterday.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: And I think that it needs to be.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's the position that you've put yourself in, and it
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: might end up costing you. It might you might run
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: out of pitchers doing it that way, you might exhaust
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: yourself here down the stretch, but you've painted yourself into
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: this corner, and so you have to play it this way.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, I mean two different comebacks really
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: on Friday, and to sit there and have Victor Roblace
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: come through and brock Rodden, yeah, just called up on Saturday.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, arguably the most important Friday, most important game
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of the entire year was Friday night. And you called
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: up a guy that hasn't played one pitch of Major
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: League Baseball and brock Rodden shortstops, not even his natural position.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Well, and thank you for calling up brock Rodden.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And not only does he add some fire to the lineup,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and you know that dirt bag reputation that he has.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Which is a compliment, believe it or not in baseball.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: That he comes up in the clutchest of clutch moments
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and comes through for you in that situation might have
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: been the biggest at bat to that point there. Now
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you end up not winning that game, and it felt crushing,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But I think that there was something the way that
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: they played Friday, and maybe it was Brendan Donovan's wiffle
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: bawling that got them there, But maybe it's Brendan Donovan
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: just feeling healthy again. I don't know, because I'd kind
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of like for that guy to kind of take over
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: as the leader. Frankly, now, I know he hasn't been around,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and he hadn't been on the roster, and he's not
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: even completed a year as a Seattle Mariner. But they're
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: gonna have to play like Brendan Donovan the rest of
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the way. They're gonna have to bring that sort of mentality,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and I think we saw it from the whole game
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: this weekend. I think that that's the way that they played.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: So whatever happened Friday night in a crushing loss Ashley
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: seem to me to spill over into Saturday and Sunday,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and there was an edge, there was a sense of urgency.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: There was a foot to the pedal to the metal
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: kind of approach to those two games on Saturday, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to play like that the rest
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of the way. Where has it been all season long?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And it almost felt like you need a loss in
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: order to remind you of how this game needs to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: be played by this baseball team.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: Well, yeah, and a lot you needed to go down
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: early and realize, oh, we're not out of it if
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: we're down early on because on Friday, like you take
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: the early lead, which we've seen them do plenty of times,
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: but then you give up the early lead and you're
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: down three before you know it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many times have we seen.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: This the look on this team like okay, sorry, we tried,
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: we're done.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And for them to have said.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Okay, down three, we got this and to continue and again,
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: I know they didn't win, but it did say something
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: about them on Friday night just watching them battle in
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: that game, and then yeah, to not let that defeat
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: hang over you when you come in the next day and.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Totally outplayed them on Saturday. Yeah, yeah, and then you outplayed.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Them all day Sunday.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: But again, can't come through with the clutch hits whenever
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you've got runners on the bass paths right, otherwise you
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: don't have to white knuckle it all the way to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the end of that game.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And if you'd had Randy on bass still
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: when Cal hits the home run, that gives you two.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: But they, yes, they there just seem to be a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: little extra energy to them. And and when you're Brendan
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Donovan and you haven't been around very long, and you
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: haven't been around all season long because of injury, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you come back and you're still worried, I can't aggravate
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that injury. And then you haven't played baseball in a while,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and then you rehab, and then you get back to
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: where you want to be, and then you have a baby,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and then you don't pick up a bat for five days,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and then you come back and you try to play
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: major league baseball against the best competition, and you're off
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to a struggling start. You can't very well be an igniter.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You can't very well ignite the offense that way. But
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: apparently some wiffle ball session with a buddy who flew
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: into town to get his head right, and they went
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: and played wiffle ball in the hotel room. And let
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: me tell you, some woffleball will fix you. And then
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: come back the next day and to be that that starter, that.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Fire starter for this team. Yeah, I thought that. I
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: thought his energy, brock Rodden's energy, Victor Roblaze energy. Yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: he should have been playing more this season. Anyway, he
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: puts the ball in play.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: That's all we are asking.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Those three guys kind of set the tone Friday that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: spread throughout the entire weekend, and Friday was crushing, but
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday was certainly rebuilding, and it just kind
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of felt like maybe some alarms went off. I'm not
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: gonna give myself to it because now you're going to
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: be taking on dirt Bag Central, the Milwaukee Brewers. Their
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: entire roster is made up of brock Rods, So you're
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: not going to out energy then, but you at least
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: need to rise to the occasion and maybe finally, you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: four and a half months into this thing. This team's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: ready to start playing the way that they were supposed
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to be. But I'm not counting on anything. We've We've
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: made that mistake a thousand times.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: One game at a time, one inning at a time.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: And I was run.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: Sorry it was Naylor who wasn't on base anymore, not
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: a Rosino and Cal hit the home run.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that would have been nice.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that nice? All right?
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  Speaker 7: is up a series win for Seattle.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: The Maritors are four back in the Al West and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: they've won nine of eleven this year against the Astros.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: What a game it really was. It was a really
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: good game.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And frankly, if you didn't have rooting interest Friday Night
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: was unbelieved.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It really was.
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: That was an exciting game. Yeah, I mean it ended
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: in crushing sadness. But before that, yay, yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: Good morning to you, great morning to you all. Happy Monday.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: Ashley Ryan is here. You better soak her up though,
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: because it's gonna be going for a little while soaking
• 31:29
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• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Oh jeez, why hmmm? How do people get to such destinations?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I have nine straight days off of work.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: I cannot remember the last time in my life I
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: have had nine straight days off of what.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Oh geez, how about that?
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: Yea?
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Some have said you've taken ten days off. Some have.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: I don't know who those people are. Well, and why
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: stop there, because I wasn't here Friday. So basically three
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: years off of work. I've taken three straight years off
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: of work. Yeah, you're welcome.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Well, here we go, we roll into our second hour.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: We've got Greg Bell coming your way here in a
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: minute and a half to talk about the preseason opener,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon, Terry and Arnold, and who knows what else
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: on today's conversation with our Seahawks insider.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: But let me get to your headlines.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: They are brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps like choose,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: chill a lot of things. Dallas wins over Seattle seventeen
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to seven in the preseason opener for both teams. It's
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Nashville this week for some fighting during the week, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: then an actual game will be played between the Titans
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and the Seahawks on Sunday. Devin Witherspoon did agree to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a brand new deal since last we spoke over the weekend,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a four year extension that's going to pay him about
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: thirty three million dollars per year. Terry and Arnold was
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: also signed since last we spoke to a one year deal,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot to figure out before he could
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: ever take the football field for the Seahawks. Will find
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: out more information from Craig Bell here in a little bit.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Also from the National Football League, Aaron Donald at a
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: second workout with the Rams. Pretty much the consensus is,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: if not the unanimous, there's just a matter of time
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: before he announces his return to the Rams. Jamal Adams
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: didn't make a very long into Vikings camp with his
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: new team. He is out for the season with a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: knee injury, and it looks like the Browns are very
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: close to naming Deshaun Watson their starting quarterback.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: For the opening game of the year.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Husky's camp continues. We're going to be out there Wednesday
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and Thursday. When I say we, I mean the Morning Show.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a cast of a thousand different guests
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that are going to stop by and join us on
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday, so we look forward to that. The
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Mariners took two out of three from the Houston Astros
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: over the weekend, despite their crushing defeat Saturday andres Munnos
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: two run lead going into the bottom of the tenth
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and cannot hold on to it, and so the Mariners
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: come back with a win on Saturday. They win yesterday
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: by the finals score of three to two. They are
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: four back in the American League West, two and a
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: half games out in the Crazy American League Wild Card,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and they will have a day off today before resuming
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: play tomorrow in Milwaukee. Tommy John passed away yesterday. I'm
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Zad was really a class gentleman in Major League Baseball,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: known more for his surgery than his baseball playing, but
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: he was a very good baseball player. And the Sounders
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: have now lost seven straight matches in the MLS. They
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: lost to the white Caps last night by a final
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: score of two to nothing.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Let's talk football with Greg Bell.
• 34:35
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  Speaker 3: Happy Monday, Greg, Happy Monday.
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  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: When do you head to Nashville.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Wednesday evening?
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: I'll be doing my show there Thursday, Okaday.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Thursday Friday, and then come back Monday or Tuesday.
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: Actually Monday, I'll be doing my show from there too, Okay,
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: because I can't fly.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Back in time for the show, so I just do
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: the Nashville show Monday.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Well, well, if you're going to be stuck in a city,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you might as well make a Nashville see.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, it ain't Green Bay exactly.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get into it. A lot to
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: discuss here today. Mike McDonald was not happy with his
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: team and his coaches. I think after that preseason opener.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It's not like he ranted and raved, but he started
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: his press conference with his displeasure.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: What exactly was he disappointed about?
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: He said he didn't like the process, and that means
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: the operation, which means getting in and out of the
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: huddle when the play's over, getting back to the huddle,
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: getting the call and getting set for them next play,
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: especially on defense. He talked about that the pace between
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: plays on offense. He didn't name him by name, but.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Think about it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: He had a offensive coordinator, the first time he's ever
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: done in his life, played called offensive plays forty one
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: years old. Brian Fleury, the tight ends coach from the
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: forty nine ers, a new offensive coordinator, and on defense
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: he had adding Dirty.
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  Speaker 5: To call in the plays.
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: The defensive coordinator, who does not call the plays during
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: the regular season, was calling him Saturday night. McDonald in fact,
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: was on the other end of the sideline most of
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: the time from Dirty to separate himself and just watching.
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: So for someone who's used to being a maister of
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: the defense and calling all the plays through the headset
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: into the middle linebacker and being in control of everything,
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: he probably was frustrated because it wasn't doing any of that.
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: In fact, after the game when I asked him about
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: having Dirty calling the plays, and he said, Dirty did
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: a great job and.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Let's plott it some loads.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: But he did say I think maybe I'll take it
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: over next week because I need to get ready for
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: the real season myself. So expect in Tennessee him to
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: be calling the plays this week, but it was left unsaid.
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: But I thought it was telling that if the process
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: and the operation of the team, the pace and all that,
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: it probably had something to do with two first time
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: well not in Dirty's case, exactly first time play callers.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just the complaints of a perfectionist.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't doing it and it was driving
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: him crazy because he would have done it a little bit.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Different pretty much exactly.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, let's talk about some things that
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: were that emerged that were good from Saturday and your estimation.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: Who's the player that stood out.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: On offense?
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: Montory Foster every time they ask him to do something. Here,
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: go run a deep route. Here, go run an out
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: in route in the end zone and turn your head
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: real quick as the balls hit in your stomach and
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: catch a touchdown pass. He broke free on a long
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: should have been another second touchdown. Drew Lock missed him.
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: He was three yards be on his defender and Locke
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: missed him for what would have been a second TV
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: Locke blamed himself for that. The substitute teacher from Wakewood,
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: I say, at high school and real estate agent from Ohio.
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: That story I told you about him finding a quarterback
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: randomly in some Planet fitness gym that worked him out
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: to keep him sharp during last season when he was
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: teaching instead of playing with the Seahawks. All of that's
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: panoff for him. I wrote the story this morning at
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: the News Tribune It's at the Newstribune dot com about
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: I think he may fit as an extra wide receiver
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: and I'm starting to think about who place he could take.
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: There's probably two spots among Jake Bobo and Cody White
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: and Ricky White the third and Irvin Charles. And I
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: think Foster's forced himself to be there. I mean, he's
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: now getting one's time in practices and yeah, he's just
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: it's a cool story. Not to mention my nephews went
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: to the high school, so I kind of knew about
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: the story before he's broken out here. Defensively, Tyree Knight
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: was the middle linebacker signal caller, getting the calls in
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: from dirty which he doesn't do of course, Ernest Jones,
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: that's his job, and Knight went back to what he
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: was doing the first couple of years at utap In College, Texas,
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: al Paso before they moved into outside linebackers last year
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: and the Knights that he really liked it and when
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: you do it in that role and calling the plays,
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: and McDonald notices that McDonald has a place on this
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: roster for Tyree Knight be in special teams or to
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: be in backup inside week sidelinebacker and now showing he
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: can do this, the Ernest Jones roll in a pinch.
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: Tyree Knight's going to keep stay on the team, still
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: in his rookie contract. But he really helped himself. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: I shuddered to say that the offensive line was terrible
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: because how many years did we say that? But the
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: offensive line was nobody that's intending to play in the
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: regular season, at least the Seahawks hope not. None of
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: the twenty two starters unless you count George Lani as
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: a starter, and I don't. I think the jenerion price
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: is the starter is to lead back. None of the
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: twenty two starters played, and the offensive line in particular
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: got just beaten around by the Cowboys.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Front Greg bellis with US, our Seahawks insider joins us
• 40:19
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• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the seventeen to seven preseason loss to the Dallas Cowboys
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: on Saturday evening as part of our conversation. But there
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: are a lot of other things to get into, which
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: we will here in a moment. I do want to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: ask you one more thing about the game, and that
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: was you wouldn't have known this you were actually there,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: but in watching the television broadcast, I mean, everybody was
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: just raving the entire game about Riley Mills. I mean,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: are they preparing us for something special here? Or are
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: they over hyping this young man? But because he pretty
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: much was the conversation from the beginning of the game
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: to the end of the game, everybody that mentioned somebody
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that has been standing out at camp, be it player
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: or analyst, keeps mentioning Riley Mills. What can we expect
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: from this guy this season?
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: Well, my guess is Michael Bennett was saying some of that, right, Michael.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Bennett, Aril Abe, Lucas, Leonard Williams. I mean it was
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: just continuous.
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: Well, April and Bennett play played on the defensive line,
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: so they have a propensity to watch for him. They
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: haven't been out of practice every single day, So some
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: of what Mills was doing was new to them to
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: this training camp, not for us that have been there
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: every day. We've seen him do it. He's very quick
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: off the ball. They're moving him from defensive end to
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: defensive tackle, a versatility that McDonald loves. Yeah, he's been
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: a standout, But I didn't see anything Saturday night that
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: I haven't seen during practices, and it looked the same
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: to me. And he's been doing against starting Seahawks office lineman,
• 42:01
  Speaker 9: not the backup cowboys on Saturday, So it didn't stand
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: out to me because it's what he's been the whole time.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: He's risen to the point where he will be a
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: primary rotation guy. And we talk all the time about
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: defensive line depth and when the Seahawks Legion of Boom
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: defenses were rolling, how they'd have ten or eleven players,
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: they'd roll like hockey line changes in the first quarter
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: and wear offensive lines down. Riley Mills is a huge
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: step toward that. They don't have it yet, but he's
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: a huge step toward that because he can play, like
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: I said, inside and outside, and yeah, I would count
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: him as an absolutely camp stand out. Ridley Mills on offense,
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: Montory Foster on Dmans on defense in Montory Foster on offense.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: Huh, let's talk about Devin Witherspoon.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: He's got a brand new deal, broke the bank, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the original report that I read said that it got
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: heated before it got sold.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Were you hearing the same things?
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: No, that's Derek an agent's characterization. The national reporters who
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: write these contract stories are getting it straight from the agent,
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: and the agent wants to sound like he went to
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: nails the nails with It wasn't contentious heated maybe in
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: the sense of a lot of work got done at
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: the very end and make it finished. But I don't
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: think anyone's throwing chalkboards or anything. Not anybody or iPads,
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: I guess these days. It's one hundred and one million.
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: That's notable. It's one hundred what's one million more than
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: Trent McDuffie got. It's thirty three million dollars a year,
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: which is notable because it's the richest average annual value,
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: and that's what agents and players use as comps to
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: other players, eclipsing the denzol Ward deal. It is everything
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: we thought it would be, and the reason it took
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: a while is because Christian Gonzalez's agent is also Devin
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: Witherspoon's agent. Now Gonzalez will go get his If the
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: agents do their job, it'll probably eclipse Witherspoon's as the
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: new richest contract. But what's notable most and I think
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: it's getting lost a little bit on Witherspoon's new deal.
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: It keeps him with the Seahawks through twenty thirty one.
• 44:04
  Speaker 9: It's a four year deal tacked onto the two remaining
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: years they already had they had him on the last
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: year of his rookie deal. They'd already exercised his option
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: for twenty twenty seven as the fifty year option. As
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: a first round draft pick. They gave him more a
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: lot more guaranteed money up front for the first two
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: years to get him to sign this deal. He's going
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: to make fifty six million dollars the next two years,
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: well more than he would have under his final year
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: of his rookie deal and the twenty plus million dollar
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: fifty year option next year. So it's win win, as
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: they say, certainly for Witherspoon, but it's a win for
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks to have a twenty five year old three
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: time Pro Bowl cornerback at one of the most important
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: positions in a pass happy league, under contract through twenty
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: thirty one, and we're not even starting the twenty twenty
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: six season yet, that's value for the Seahawks. By the
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: time his contract ends in twenty thirty one, he'll be
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: thirty years old, and it will look like a steal
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: for the Seahawk because the salary cap will be well
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: over three hundred million from or of closer to four
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: hundred million by then, and it's three hundred and one
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: million this year, and so that contract will be in
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: the middle of the pack in the NFL. He'll he'll
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: outplay that probably halfway through. And well, it's so it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: the richest deal now, it won't be the richest deal then,
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: and that's a good deal for the Seahawks.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Seahawks insider Greg Bell is with us follow mat g
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  Speaker 1: bel Seattle and get everything you need at the Newstribune
• 45:28
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• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Terry and Arnold also signed. Since last we spoke.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And so what was the final reason, What was it
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: that pushed it through? Why did the Seahawks feel like
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: this this juice was worth the squeeze?
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: Well, again, they were in first. They felt like they
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: were in most And this can be either a layaway
• 45:53
  Speaker 9: deal depending on his legal situation in Florida, or it
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: could be that he'd ever for it all. That's also
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: a possibility if he sound guilty or the course won't
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: let him, or the NFL Commission Roger Goodo puts him
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: on the exemp list, So there are a lot of
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: ifs to get there. They think he can practice soon.
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: They don't know if it's this week, but they think
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: they can have him enough that he will at least
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: get in the program here this month, whether he comes
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: to Tennessee or not. Practices for the first time in
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: Tennessee on Friday in the joint, I don't know. They
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: don't know yet, at least as of the weekend, didn't
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: know when he was going to sign so officially be
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: in the building. He is not there yet, so we'll see.
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: To use the words of Mike McDonald, when you sign
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: a guy facing eight felonies in life in prison, you
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: kind of have to go with what the guys that
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: could determine life in prison for him say. And that's
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: where the Seahawks stand right now.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: But they cast their lot.
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: They put in their bid, he took it, and now
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: they at least have the option of him playing for
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: them if it all goes his way. And that's a
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: needless to say it, Gi Kntykiff.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: So now that you've got JSN, now you got Weatherspoon done.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: How BIG's the contract look for Byron Murphy next year?
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: Well, he's on a trajectory toward I'm not sure at
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: this point he's Jalen Carter richest deal in NFL history
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: for a defensive tackle yet. But if he hasn't a
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: production up tick like he did last year, he will be.
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: Mike McDonald's saying that he thinks he can have more sacks,
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: more productivity in the pass rush game, and he had
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: seven and a half in limited reps last year. He
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: wasn't always on the field when they passed rush. He's
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: going to be on the field more this year, and
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: he could be out at end more than he's been.
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: I've seen him going up and down the defensive line
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: even more than I did last year. I think McDonald's
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: going to be creative in ways to put him on
• 47:47
  Speaker 9: one on one matchups, kind of like an NBA player,
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: clear out the lane and let him go one on one.
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: I think I've seen that a time or a million
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: in the NBA lately. That's kind of what they're doing
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: with Byron Murphy. They're trying to find a weak link,
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: go on an offensive line and put him over that guy.
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: The great thing about Murphy you can hit him in
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: the field for every play. He can stop the run,
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: and if you want to try to double team with
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: good luck. He's the best double team guy in the league.
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: Leonard Williams, Jared Reed. You talked to defensive linemen that
• 48:17
  Speaker 9: are older than he but five ten years. They can't
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: believe how good Byron Murphy is against double teams. He
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: drops to a knee, he thrust his arm up. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: call it a Turkish get up, get kettlebell move. For
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: those listening that are cross for it, It's crazy how
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: good he is at three hundred pounds to just push
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: his way off his knee through a double team and
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: ruin it. I wouldn't take him off the field. I mean,
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: he's in the middle of what he's a twenty still
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: only twenty three, twenty.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Four years old.
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: He should play ninety plus percent of the snaps, but
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: they want to rotate. Of course, the defensive line. We
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: talked about depth and Riley Mills, but yeah, Byron Murphy,
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: if he's if his are continue is the way it
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: went last year, he could be in that conversation. He's
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: really really good at something that gets overlooked, and that's
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: defending double teams.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Well, needless to say, we just scratched the surface. So
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I would imagine ten o'clock today, a lot of Seahawks.
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: Talk, ah Seahawks talk. Yeah, I touch a bit on first.
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna play Bryan Smetzer's comments after the Sounders game,
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: because there are a lot of people who thirty thousand
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: in the yard last night who were pretty frustrated. The
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: Sounders fan base not used to seeing seven losses of
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: the road. It's never happened MLS play. But we're gonna
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: talk a little bit about the Mariners.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: I cannot believe.
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: I mean, as great as that weekend series was, they
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: may be kicking themselves mightily for losing that Friday game
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: and blowing that lead they came back from. Instead of
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: two games back, their four and I know they have
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: the tiebreaker, but their lead, their deficit is doubled because
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: of that game. But yeah, tons of Seahawks. You're here
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: from mon Tory Foster. You hear Mike McDonald's summation, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: you'll probably can hear him gritting his teeth through his
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: words too.
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: All right, we'll be listening. Thanks man, appreciate.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: You, all right, Thank yous sir.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insigner from the News Tribune, Go
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: ahead and check out his full coverage of the weekend.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of things to have to write about at
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the Newstribune dot com, and of course you can follo
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: him at g Bell Seattle on x. He joins us
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: every day nearly during the football season at seven oh
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: five thanks to the Emerald Queen Casino. Coming up next,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: we will hear from Mike McDonald as he pushes words
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: through his gritting teeth. After the game on Saturday, we'll
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: hear right from the mouth of the head coach exactly
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: what was frustrating him. Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: kjrfm QB.
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: One the preseason.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: The beginner opener for the Seahawks goes the Dallas Cowboys
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: way seventeen to seven. But a lot to discuss, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I can.
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  Speaker 6: Promise you you saw more than any of us.
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  Speaker 2: By a million.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you watched.
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  Speaker 2: The game rewound. We did it. Yeah, he did that
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  Speaker 2: seventeen times, right, and.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: A very short efficient amount of time as well. He's
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's got an eye for this sort of thing.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the abcs of them. So we're gonna
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: squeeze that in. We left off of the letter G
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: on Friday, GS four Gauntlet, and uh, unfortunately, that is
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: what the Mariners are getting ready to face. They're not
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: at the end of that gauntlet. You know, we were
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: talking about this tough schedule that they have here in
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the month of August. We're only in the middle of it.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: We are in the eye of the storm, perfose, having
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: gone through Tampa Bay, New York, Houston recently. I mean
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: we still got to go Milwaukee on the road, then
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: three with the Cubs, three with the Phillies, three with
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, and three with the Red.
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  Speaker 6: Sox in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 5: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: And so I mean then it does lighten up considerable
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: in September. A lot of games with the Angels, Rockies,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and A's in the month of September. So I mean
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: it does get light but you know, in terms of
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: and you've you've made this bed for yourselves seven games
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: under five hundred and four games to make up. You
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: can't drowned here in good competition over the next few weeks.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: So uh, yeah, it's gonna get tough. The Brewers are
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: as good as anybody. They just beat the hell out
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: of the Dodgers over the weekend. The Cubs, uh, you're
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: good to get to face them here. They're a much
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: better team at home. Philly's dangerous, Toronto's back to playing
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: good baseball again, and the Red Sox have been the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: hottest team.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: In baseball in the second half.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: So you got to you got to keep a float
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: here and then hopefully you get to swim without restriction.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just cruise on. Yeah through September.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, through the month of September. But the Gauntlet, as
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we discussed, it's just beginning.
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: We're not even in the middle of it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Yet, which is yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I was thinking, like, okay, we had Houston and now
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: Milwaukee and.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Then it'll be all right.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: I didn't look past there because I don't like to
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: because it makes my heart stressed out.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this team really doesn't seem to care who
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: the opponent is. They can play down to anybody, and
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: they can play up to anybody, true, So we'll see
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: how they manage it all day off today and then
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee for three games starting on Tuesday.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: H is for Houston, and that is one thing.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, we did get the tie breaker, and you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: do have more games against the Astros before the season
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: comes to a close, two of them as a matter
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: of fact, but you do have the tiebreaker. So that
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: is something to keep in mind, certainly as we head
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: down the stretch. And I don't know what flipped, because
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: they've made a big deal out of it last night
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: on NBC.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: Just this.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a strange season to begin with,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: strange for the Mariners, strange for the division, strange for
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the league American League that the Rangers have owned the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Mariners this year. The Mariners have owned the Astros and
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the Astros have owned the Rangers. But whatever has flipped
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: in our relationship with the Houston Astros, it's real because
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: they have just dominated them this season, probably should have
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: swept the series this weekend. They've only lost twice to
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: them this entire year, and they did the same thing
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to Houston a year ago in taking the division from
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: them finally, so there seems to be hand in this
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: relationship now owned by the Seattle Mariners.
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I mean it is a much more pleasant
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: place to be. I just wish overall we were playing
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: better so it could be more enjoyable to be winning
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: that rivalry.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: This year doesn't.
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: Seem as jovial ass as it was last year, but
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: we got time.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I did love Jeff Blum's comments because
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the first three innings you could just hear him shaking
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: his head like, I don't know what all this talk about.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: This Mariners team can't hit, because every time I've watched them,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: because he does Astro's color, every time I've watched watch them,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: they just hit line drives and home runs all over
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the park. And I don't know why that is either. Again,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: it's part of the strange fabric that has made this
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: strange blanket that the Mariners have woven this year. But
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: for some reason, the Astros pitching or at Houston, something
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: about those dimensions gives them comfort in the batter's box.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I thought we saw a much scrappier version of the
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Mariners than we've seen all season long, and maybe that
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: has something to do with playing getting Donovan back, and Donovan.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: Back like backpack.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Brock Rodden added to that, and Victor Roblaze, who I
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: think we've learned a lesson.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: We've not been playing that guy enough.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: He puts the ball in play and he does some
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: silly things on the base paths sometimes. But for a
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: team that's having a difficult time putting the ball in play,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Victor Roblaze does at least that. Yeah, I shouldn't have
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: ever pinch hit Mitch Garver for him.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you that much.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Oh God, Oh God.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: And finally, Ias for inclusion, September call ups are a
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: couple of weeks away. Kate Anderson's at least going to
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: be a part of that. If there's anything.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Wrong with Brian Wu's shoulder. He left the game with
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit of shoulder soreness yesterday, that we may
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: see Kate Anderson earlier. I will also tell you I
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: watched Las Montes play Friday for the Tacoma Rainiers. He's
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: now up to what thirty six home runs this year,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and so you're running out of time justin on your
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: promise that if he's hits forty, I guarantee you some
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: of them will be for the Mariners. I heard that, Yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: well we're running out of time on that. He's getting
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: really close to that forty Homer mark. And I watched
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: a guy that improved greatly defensively from the last time
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I saw him. He put on a defensive show Friday night.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Plus had a two run bomb that went practically over
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: over all of the foliage on right field, and had
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: a couple of other decent bats. So I don't know,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: kind of looks ready, kind of looks like he could help,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: and I know Kate Anderson could help. So we'll see
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: how they're going to include them the rest of the
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: season in this master plan. All right, Hugh Mellan's next
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback on kJ R.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: All Right, Happy Monday.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: To you all, and here we go the start of
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: it all, our first Monday Morning Quarterback session of the
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: football season. Our own QB won the Star of Monday
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback is.
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: Back with us for another year.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Hugh Mellon joins us here on the radio show Happy Football.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: Hugh, Yeah, good to be with you. It's nice to
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: get things going.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the wasn't the Picasso that Mike McDonald was perhaps
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: hoping for. But you know, if we forge.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: On Yeah, but well, before we get into some of
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: the details, I wanted to get your thoughts on that,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: because what does he mean when he how important is
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: that to be on time with getting the call in
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: and getting all of your communication done and pre snap,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: being in the right position, the right mindset, knowing having
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: just that speed with which and that efficiency to get
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the play in. How important is that to operating an
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: offense and a defense.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Well, the way you pose the question, I don't think
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: there's a coach in the land that would not say
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: vitally important. Yeah, you know, it's just it's the fundamental
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: It's probably just rooted in the DNA of every coach
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: that Yeah, there's a certain cadence to how you want
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: the operation to go. Hey, we need to get the
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: play call. You know, just intuitively, you have yet that
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: time clock, as a quarterback is expected to have a
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: time clock in the post at for hey, I'm holding
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: the ball too long, as does a coach have an
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: internal clock like wait a minute, we're not this, this
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: is not getting in fast enough. We're not breaking the huddle,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: we're not calling it, you know, calling the plays. You know,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: our alignment uh, you know they have those those practices
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: where they're just focused on a walk through, just alignment
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: and assignment and and yeah. So so being in the
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: right spot is and and and the mechanics of the game.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: I think you know, some coaches say, hey, that that's
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: the first building block, right, you know, and and so
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: uh when when he sees that not at his standard,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: you're not gonna be upset. But you know, the look,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of sloppy stuff. I mean, there was
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: a point where you were second and thirty nine.
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: Oh, I think it just popped off.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: We to get that back. We got to get that back,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: all right. Hugh Millan is with us.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like a new thing that we're dealing
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: with here. We heard it for the first time, I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: don't know, a week ago or.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: Something like that. The pop wasn't as large if that's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: a silver linnium pop.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: It was just like a gentle tap of a pop
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: as opposed to one we heard last week where it
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: scared the Jesus out of me. So yeah, we'll get
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Humellan back here and we'll pick it up at that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: second and thirty nine and a little bit of the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: sloppiness that took place on the field that Mike McDonald
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: was not happy with.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, it didn't take him.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: He didn't need any encouragement from the Seattle media hoarde
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: whatsoever to complain about that. So we'll get back to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the conversation with you here in a little bit. And
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of other things to cover, and some
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: good things as well, But quay an offensive line. You
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: were operating with your second string offensive line throughout the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: course of the game, or at least the course of
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the first half. Then you had third string fourth stringers
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: in before it came to a close. I mean, twenty
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: one penalties were called in the game, and so I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: mean that just shows you how sloppy it was on
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Saturday on both sides of the ball. But twenty one
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: penalties kind of bogged things down. Maybe that's as much
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: to say about your lack of any kind of continuity
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: or speed or rhythm when you're constantly stopping the game.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And also we did get to see, by the way Saturday,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: since I got a little time to point this out,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't think I would how easy gene Sterotor and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: others make it look when you're announcing penalties because I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened to the main guy, but he
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: got removed from the game and they had to go
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to the backup, and boy did he struggle.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: Did he have a rough time. It looked like he.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Didn't know the rules, he didn't know which team was
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: on which side of the ball, any of that. But
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: he certainly his his coorts didn't make it easier on him.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: They were flag happy in that second half.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: Do we have h back?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: We don't have h back yet. I'm working on it.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: I called.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I think he's calling me.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Now, hold on, okay, all right, we'll get Hugh back
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: in a second. But yes, a lot of penalty flags
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: in that game last night and or Saturday night, and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: it was not enjoyable, to say the least. That bogs
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: down a good game, a much less sloppy preseason game
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: like we watched on Saturday. All right, we got you back,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: hopefully for good here, Hugh. But you were getting ready
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: to talk about second and thirty nine as an example
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: of how sloppy the team looked on Saturday.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, second and thirty nine. I mean, that's just gonna
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: kind of rankle any coach. And then you know he
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: made the decision to go forward on the first play
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter at the six yard line, fourth
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: and four. I understand why he would want to on
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: that particular play to put his team in stress. His offense,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: see how Brian Florey calls the play, See how they
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: can execute. But I think they may have been better
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: served to kick the field goal. Kick the short field
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: goal pulled to within seventeen to ten. Now you get
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: to evaluate the players on the field on defense, Hey,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: how do you respond when you're within a touchdown and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: you have momentum to the players on offense, how you know, Hey,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: let's go try and win this thing, you know, because
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: now we're within a touchdown and and you know, I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: think it's hard sometimes for coaches to tell the players, Hey,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: you know, you know this is important. We're evaluating, and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: you know, if the coach makes decisions.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: Not to win.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Or or I would say that's that's probably an unfair comparison.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: I would say that it's it's not a standard decision
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: you'd make, right would you Do you think he'd make
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: that in the regular season.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: I do not.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I think maybe i'd more to do with I know
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Jason Myers can make a field goal. I'd rather work
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: on fourth and four. But you're right, there's some learning
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: to be done in you know, making it a seven
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: point game and how do we play after that?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and now I will say that in my
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: own opinion, if you said, if there was some you know,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: alternate universe, you know where you could run an experiment
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: a thousand times, do the Seahawks have a Are they
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: better off today having beat the Cowboys and or having
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: lost to the Cowboys in pre season? I would argue
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: that they're better off today having lost. I think that
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: this gives Mike McDon donald the chance to really, you know,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: grind on the details in ways that you know, the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: let's state in obvious fact, they've been practicing and their
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: last game was when they won the super Bowl, and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: so there's no sense of urgency.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to overplay it and say there's a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: bunch of urgency because you lost preseason game number one.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: But I was in somewhat of a similar situation when
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I got traded. The Cowboys went the after year one
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: of their from three out of four year period there
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: where they won.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: The Super Bowl.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: So so as the defending champions the opening preseason game.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: We lost to Minnesota at home and looked bad doing it,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: and Jimmy Johnson was apoplectic, and I mean showed more
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: fury than I could ever imagine a coach could could
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: exhibit after a preseason game, let alone preseason game number one,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: let alone near the Super Bowl champions. But it did
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: allow him an opportunity to really kind of reset the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: focus in those next several days after that. So I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: think we're just vine. I think this kind of sets
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: out paradoxically as perfect for Mike McDonald.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to use it as a coaching tool for sure.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millan is with us. It's Monday morning quarterback. It's
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: our first session as we talk about the preseason opener. Well,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: let's get into some quarterback play. I know that on
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Friday you circle Jalen Milroe as a guy to watch
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: certainly in this game, maybe the guy to watch in
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: this game. And then Drew Locke starts the game. I mean,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: if there was a highlight, it's going thirteen plays, eighty
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: yards and seven minutes to score a touchdown the first
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: time you touch the football offensively preseason game or not.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: So let's start with that. Let's start with Drew Locke
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: and what you saw from that drive and what you
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: saw from the quarterback on on Saturday.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I think his best play was certainly
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: the touchdown pass. It's a quarters coverage with which which
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: means there's four the defenders deep in the back layer,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: and and the way that play, you're trying to get
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: a slot receiver to pull the near safety and then
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: isolate one on one the outside corner and with the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: guy in his face and him having to have had
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: to stem inside. Beautiful timing and ball placements, so the
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: execution was great. Thereafter a few things, he turned down
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: a slant route to Jake Bobo where they set the
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: formation to the left and the and he had a slant.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: He came out ended up throwing a swing. I think
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: if I was quarterback coaching, and I'd probably give him
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: a minus on that play. That there was a play
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: over the middle that he tried to hit Bobo on
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: what the I know the forty nine ers in their
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: pass offense with Kyle Shannonhan and they call it a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: skid route. So Brian Florey comes over and and Bobo
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  Speaker 3: was a line to the left and you remember him
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  Speaker 3: running that inbreaking route, but the pass, the pass gets defensed.
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  Speaker 3: The ball could have been out in front a little more.
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  Speaker 3: But that's an example of just the precision is in
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  Speaker 3: the details. I mean, if I'm coaching Jake Bobo, I say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you're you're losing ground up the field. You gotta particularly
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  Speaker 3: because corners, when you watch the All twenty two tape,
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  Speaker 3: these corners no Bobo cannot run. And in Manda Man's
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  Speaker 3: situations or zones that resemble man de Man on the
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  Speaker 3: corner has to mirror the wide receiver. The wide receiver
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  Speaker 3: when he makes an inbreaking rounde, he's got to flatten
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  Speaker 3: that come downhill towards the ball. So I think that
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  Speaker 3: there was an issue there. You know, he missed the
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  Speaker 3: go route where you know it was you know, a
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  Speaker 3: slant and go and uh, when you get that kind
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  Speaker 3: of separation of your professional quarterback, you got great protection.
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  Speaker 6: You got to hit that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know and and yeah, And I would say,
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  Speaker 3: do you do you recall the one where he threw
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  Speaker 3: the ball to the inside to Bobo.
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  Speaker 6: This is this is different than.
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  Speaker 3: The Bobo play that that I'm talked about where they
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  Speaker 3: had to incomplete the pass break up.
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  Speaker 6: But there was one where there.
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  Speaker 3: Was clearly miscommunication on a deep a deep hook with
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  Speaker 3: Bobo and and Drew locked through it inside. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you look at that, and and you know, it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of hard to imagine Bobo would be what what would
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  Speaker 3: hook the ball when he's expected to go in. It's
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  Speaker 3: also hard for me to imagine. Now Locke was under
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  Speaker 3: duress he throws the ball inside. But but if you
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  Speaker 3: look at that, you know, with talk about the details
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  Speaker 3: of the play, if you're going to have the split in,
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  Speaker 3: run a deep hook route, and you have a crossing
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  Speaker 3: route to influence, this is zone coverage. You get the
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  Speaker 3: running back sitting over the middle, but there's a crossing
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  Speaker 3: route coming from the right side in the person of
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  Speaker 3: Cody White, and his split was well outside the formation.
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  Speaker 3: You're asking him to get all the way over to
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  Speaker 3: the other side to influence what's called the flat defender,
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  Speaker 3: to widen that hole for Bobo and Cody White. I
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's at nine yards. I would have said,
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  Speaker 3: you want to be closer to six yards. He's kind
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  Speaker 3: of jogging and and it just looks like a mess.
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  Speaker 3: It just doesn't look like Chris football. And and and
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  Speaker 3: then you know, a veteran receiver and a veteran quarterback
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  Speaker 3: aren't on the same page. So so I think you
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  Speaker 3: know that that's one of many examples where you just
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  Speaker 3: kind of go, wait a minute's just it's just tight
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  Speaker 3: and uh So at an event, you know Lock uh
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  Speaker 3: a lot. You know he's got to hit that that
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  Speaker 3: that slugo. I mean, I mean when you run that slugo,
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  Speaker 3: there's two ways you can.
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  Speaker 6: You can coach it.
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  Speaker 3: You can coach and the slug is a word conjunction
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  Speaker 3: for slant and go. And this is the this is
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  Speaker 3: the the deep ball that Lock missed up the sea
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  Speaker 3: Owks sideline. So the receiver, if you if he takes
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  Speaker 3: a thin angle, meaning he comes up three steps and
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: he and and he doesn't go hard to the inside.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: He kind of goes at a at a what what
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  Speaker 3: what In math we call an obtuse angle, a more
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: obtuse angle that's called a skinny angle.
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  Speaker 6: Well, your momentum can keep you going, but you may.
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  Speaker 3: Be less likely to get the corner to bite if
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  Speaker 3: you come up and you go three steps and then
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  Speaker 3: you go flatter to the inside, almost like an in
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  Speaker 3: route instead of a slant then then you you're more
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: likely to get the corner to drive hard, but your
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  Speaker 3: momentum is harder to get you going up the field
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: back to redirect your momentum going back vertically. So this
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  Speaker 3: was a relatively flat angle. And perhaps you know, if
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  Speaker 3: I showed you one hundred sluggs in the NFL, you
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  Speaker 3: would see many that are at that angle, but you
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  Speaker 3: would see menering.
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  Speaker 6: At are a skinnier angle.
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  Speaker 3: So perhaps Locke because what we call the receiver gets
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  Speaker 3: buried on the first move of a double move, then
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  Speaker 3: his acceleration and it's harder to get going. But in
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  Speaker 3: any event, there was so much separation. Lock's got to
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  Speaker 3: hit that.
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  Speaker 6: Mom.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about mill Row. I mean, there were some
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  Speaker 1: plays he ran more than what we've seen him run
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  Speaker 1: in the past, and tiptoed down the sidelines at one
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  Speaker 1: point at a twenty yard run.
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  Speaker 6: At one point.
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  Speaker 1: He did have that creative little like side arm throat
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  Speaker 1: of a net late in the game, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: I had a couple little crisp short passes that were accurate.
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  Speaker 1: But he did look sloppy for most of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and sloppier as the players around him were less experienced as.
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  Speaker 6: The game went along.
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  Speaker 1: So overall, your assessment of what you saw out of Milrow,
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  Speaker 1: somebody that you were looking forward to breaking.
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  Speaker 3: Down, Well, they're calling relatively simple concepts for him. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of mirrored stuff. No, I can recall breaking him
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  Speaker 3: down coming an all out of Alabama, and if Mike
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  Speaker 3: Holmgreen we're here, we'd talk about the Hank route, which
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: is a very simple route where it's a double you know,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: double cool routes on each side, and then there's the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: tight end is over the middle, and then there's two
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: guys in the flat and you can invert it so
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: instead of the wide receiver going up the curl, you
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: can have the slot doing the curl. Then the wide
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: guys just sit in the flat.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: That that was the.
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  Speaker 3: First play that they ran for him. Uh in a
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  Speaker 3: bowl game at Alabama there or where Hey, let's just
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  Speaker 3: give him something simple. You saw derivatives of that play
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday night. You know, just kind of trying to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: stay with the basics. Uh, and there's variations. Like I said,
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  Speaker 3: I do want to get into the details. So so
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  Speaker 3: they tried to keep it.
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  Speaker 6: Simple for him.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, double slant, you know what what what?
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  Speaker 3: What's called lying in that that offense where you just
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: you know, the quick game.
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  Speaker 6: I think his.
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  Speaker 3: Running ability, his running nobility was good, but you know
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  Speaker 3: he had a couple scrambles when only had two yards
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  Speaker 3: and and you know, you come back and you look
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  Speaker 3: and you say, wait a minute. The biggest thing he
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: has to work on is his anticipation. Did he have
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: an in rout from right to left where if he
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  Speaker 3: if he put his foot in the ground and he
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: smoked it out there, did he have the time?
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  Speaker 6: I'm one of the cops.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: The pocket was claps and a lot on them. The
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Seayak quarterbacks had thirteen pressures against them, whereas the Seahawk
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: defense only produced nine pressures against Cowboy quarterbacks. So that
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: was a factor.
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  Speaker 6: I do not think he had good protection. But while
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  Speaker 6: he did.
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  Speaker 3: On a third and eleven have a twelve yard scramble
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  Speaker 3: and he had another twenty yarder, there's a couples where
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  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, maybe he's a little underwhelming. Look,
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  Speaker 3: we know he's an elite runner. You know, he's not
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: young Lamar Jackson runner. But if he ever plays in
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: a game, he's going to be a force with his
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: running ability. But when you evaluate a preseason game, we
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: can postulate it very simple, like this regular season starting defenses,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: that we can assume that they have more team speed
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: than backups in the preseason. Is that a fair assumption?
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  Speaker 3: So we know that if we take a quarterback like Milrow,
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  Speaker 3: his athleticism, whatever we see when he's beating defenders, it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be harder if he's doing that in the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: regular season. And then Lamar Jackson would attest to this point,
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  Speaker 3: then it ramps up even more in the playoffs because
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: you've got great team speed and everybody's motivated on every
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: place or so some of those running plays that you
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: could get in September you cannot get in in January,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: and so it just elevates. So when you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback who's who's running ability, specifically scrambling ability is
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: a big part of what they contribute, then you know
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: you've got to really look at that with a keen
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: eye and and and say, hey, are you are you scrambling?
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Are you turning down some plays? Are you are you
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: scrambling when you could have just turned to your left,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: there's a checkdown right in front of you. Dump it
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: to him, let him go, and there there were some
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: minuses on his sheet in the manner that I described,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: or I think that you know, in some cases his
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: eyes weren't even in the right place and he missed
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: guys that he could have with with. I'm not going
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: to say elite level, but just normal level. Good timing
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  Speaker 3: that there's some opportunities to get some intermedia touch down
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  Speaker 3: the field.
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  Speaker 1: Here, melanis with us our QB one. It's our first
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  Speaker 1: official Monday morning quarterback session of the brand new football season,
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  Speaker 1: and I appreciate that Hugh dressed up for it. You
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  Speaker 1: should see him with his tucks on right now.
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  Speaker 3: And yes for the opener. Yeah, we should have tucked
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  Speaker 3: on a Thursday morning.
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  Speaker 6: We should get the match and touch this Thursday morning. Now,
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  Speaker 6: Softie would this only if if he knew I was
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  Speaker 6: wearing a tuck.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we got more with you on the
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  Speaker 1: other side, we got a lot more to break down.
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  Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ A r f.
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  Speaker 10: M nine o'clock hour here on this Monday, our first
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: football game has been watched, it is being evaluated, and
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 10: we're breaking it down for you here this morning, or
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: have been breaking it down for you here this morning.
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  Speaker 1: During the regular season Monday Morning Quarterback two hours of
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Hugh mill and after every Seahawks game from eight to ten.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: We were just going to do an hour today since
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: it was a preseason game. But I'm sure he's got
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  Speaker 1: a few extra thoughts, few leftovers that he'd like.
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  Speaker 6: Them all over.
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  Speaker 1: But primarily I wanted to do another segment because we
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  Speaker 1: have Devin Witherspoon and Terry and Arnold contracts to react to,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure everybody listening wants Hughes thoughts on these
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: two topics, and so we continue with our QB one
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  Speaker 1: here on this first Monday Morning Quarterback session of the
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  Speaker 1: year here.
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  Speaker 6: On Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r F
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  Speaker 6: M all right, Hugh, Well, let's talk about Spoon.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the big deal first four years, one
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two million dollar extension and so highest
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: paid cornerback in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 6: You all right with that? I absolutely, I absolutely love
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: this guy.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's clear he's Mica Doald's favorite player for
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: good reason. I think his love of the game is infectious.
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  Speaker 3: I think for a team, you know, if you compare
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  Speaker 3: it to the Legion of Boom, I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: has the kind of the innate swag. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: say that as a you know, plus or a minus.
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  Speaker 3: I just think it's an observation. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: Witherspoon brings the swag, and so there's a there's a
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: elite bringing competitor in him. So I think you're paying
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  Speaker 3: for his mentality, you know, what he brings to the
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: team in terms of kind of the emotional straw that
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: serves that drink in my opinion. And then when you
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: consider his versatility plays he plays outside in their base
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: defense what's nickel because of em and worry. But then
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: when they play dime he comes in. He can play
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: the slot. They put him generally to the field, the
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: widest side. And you know, you have to really lock
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: into this concept about the seat defense when you play
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: as much too high defense with both safeties deepen away
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: from the line of scrimmage. In a general rule in sports,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: space is the friend of an offense and the enemy
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: of the defense, right, I mean, whether it's basketball or soccer,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: what have you? I mean, imagine soccer, if they're wash
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: you know, twenty five players, you know that had all
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: bottled up. Uh, if there's six players, it would be
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: wide open. Same thing with football. I mean, imagine if
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: defense to play with you know, twenty five guys, everybody
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: would have a friend near them to help. Now imagine football.
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  Speaker 3: Now they have eight man football in high school.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: Watch it.
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  Speaker 3: The scores are like sixty three sixty one because there's
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: there's more space for everybody to cover. So back to
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: McDonald than his defense those two high structures that he played.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: When we put Witherspoon to the field. In the flat,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: there's only three guys underneath on some of those those coverages.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: And to his side, he's got.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: The flat and and so he's got to cover so
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: much ground that that that h he and and without help,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: he essentially has to match to the flat play man
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: to man, and and so the ability for him to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: play inside out because you've got to defend the inside
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: pass first to the flat is is really paramount to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: what they do. And finally, I'll just say the if
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: you go to the most important play in the entire year,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: fourth and four in the NFC Championship game at the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: six yard line, and everyone's talking about how d low
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: backed off and covered the running back, well, Matthew Stafford
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: then comes back inside and you got Witherspoon. He's covering
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: Terrence Ferguson on a double move with no help to
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: the safety, and he just plays it perfectly. He doesn't
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: bite too much on the out route. He's in a
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: position to undercut the seam again with no safety help,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: and he gets an official pass breakup to stop the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: possession on fourth and four with under five minutes ago
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship game. So he's a clutch player.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: He's a versatile player. He's an emotional player. He's a
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: skilled player. He's a physical player as much as he
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: can be with his size. I think he checks every
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: single box and that's why he's getting paid like this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, happy to have him back here. So go
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: ahead and feel comfortable out there getting your number twenty
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: one jersey because he's going to be here for the
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: next five seasons minimum.
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  Speaker 6: Let's talk about Terry and Arnold.
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  Speaker 1: I was on with a couple guys, David Softy Maler
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: and Dick Fane on Friday. They couldn't believe that you
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: and I would question that the Seahawks should or shouldn't
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: have interest in Terry and Arnold. They were just married
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: to the idea. But I know what your thoughts were
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: last week, you shared them with us here on the show.
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  Speaker 1: So now that the deal looks like it's done, I mean,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: we still got some other details to get him on
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: the football field. I don't know when that's going to happen,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: but they've certainly committed to him to a degree. And
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: so now that Terry and Arnold looks like he is
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: a Sea Hawk, what is Hugh.
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  Speaker 6: Millan feel about that here on a Monday morning.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I think there can be a very good argument
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: for bringing them on. We could, we could highlight those points.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: You know them, I know them.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: You know that it's a it's a it's a player
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: with first round caliber talent and the position of relative
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: need of shallow depth for the Seahawks.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: You know you're not paying him anything.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: You can cut him at any time if you don't
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: like what you see. They have all kinds of outs.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a number of good reasons to sign him.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: But if you and if you ask me, on a
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: scale of zero to ten, one won't attend whatever, uh
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: ten being the most enthusiastic and zero being the least.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: I would say five. And then you say, well, wait,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: a minute. Five is not good for radio because that's
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: that's planning yourself right on the fence. You can't you
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: can't be a five. I'd say, well, then I'm a four?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: And why am Why am I a four? Just one
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: man's opinion.
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  Speaker 5: I think that.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: A couple of things. I'm i'm. I think about the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: message that Mike McDonald tries to send to the team,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: that about the warriors in the garden and and what
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: have you just being you know, the the culture of
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: of who they see themselves as and and the type
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: of players that they are trying to get. Now, this
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: guy might have elite football character and have had one,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: you know, just egregious misstep with the law, uh and
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: a and a complete moral failing. And we'll sort all
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: that out. But I think I also, you know, I
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: threw four hours of tape on and watched every single
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: pass against the Lion defense, and I just I didn't
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: see an elite player. I see an elite athlete, But
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: I see technique issues with his you know, in the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: breakpoint is his feek it wide? I think he grabs
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: a little. I think that in zone coverage he plays
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: too conservative. So I think that when he if I
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: threw on the tape and just go, oh my god,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm watching Dion Sanders, then maybe that
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: would push me off of the five.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: To a six.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: But I'm pushed to a four because I think that
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: there's going to be some coaching that that still needs
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: to go on with his technique at the break point
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: and what have you. And so I don't I don't
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: think he's already made product where you just come in
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: and you say, yeah, that's the guy you put on
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: Poka nakua and don't worry about it, you know, I don't.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: I don't think that, right.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, a couple two stats to underscore
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: that point. I think we talked about yards per covered
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: snap out one hundred nine qualifying cornerbacks. He was at
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: one point seven, tied for the last tied for worst
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: covered snaps per target.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: What would that indicate?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: That would mean are quarterbacks fearful of going at him
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: or offensive coordinators play callers? Well, he had four point
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: seven covered snaps per target. So the most if you said, okay,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: Leon Sanders would have something, you know, like thirty covered
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: snaps per target. So the fewer you have, the more
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: teams are throwing a well he's four point seven. Well
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: that was one hundred and seventh out of.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: One hundred and nine.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: So there's other quarterbacks who are looking at it and
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: thinking just like me, right, and that can be proven
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: right there in that.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: Stat So I would say, uh, that.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: That I just expected a little bit more of him
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: as a football player when I threw on the tape.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: And then I asked, man, is it worth the distraction
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: everybody there's such a good, good mojo? Is it worth
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: the distraction where everybody's you know, all the cameras are
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: around him after practice instead of interviewing Leonard Williams about
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: what what you know, what a great you know player
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: he is, and what a great human meaning he is,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: we're getting interviewed here. It's just it seems like that unnecessary,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: you know, wrenching the juju for what you're getting out
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: of it. But again, I'm not I am not staunchly
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: against it. I mean, you know, you know, I'm as
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll take a stand on an opinion, but
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: I'm relatively on the fence of this.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: But I just it just it just.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: Doesn't seem like it is that is that a fair?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: Is that about where you were at.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: I know you have gotten pretty much more against it
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: than me.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty much exactly where you are on it. I
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: mean to me, like, look, one guy's not going to
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: come in here and ruin Mike McDonald's culture. I mean,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: that's not the statement. The culture is so strong. If
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: at any moment he doesn't fit, you're right, you can
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: easily cut him. But I just don't know. I mean,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: you've built this empire one way, and I don't think
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: you built it around guys like Terry and Arnold.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: And if you're right, if this.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Was some special player just because he got first round pick,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they didn't miss on that. When I saw
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Detroit Lyons games play, he made a lot of highlights,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't for good reasons, you know, the last
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: couple of years, I'm not sure he's as good a
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: player as what people who are excited about this tend
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: to think that he is just because he has that
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: first round draft pick status attached to his name. And
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: so I just don't understand if I I don't know
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: if the you know, the juice is worth the squeeze,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the risk is worth the reward
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: that you're going to get for this player. But you
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: know what, they liked him coming out of the draft,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: both of them, both Mike and John.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: So they see.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Something and maybe they get more out of him than
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: what Dan Campbell and the Detroit Lions could. So I'm
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: not trying to stand on some giant moral high ground
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: on this. It just to me there's a reason why
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: the Lions cut bait and ran as quickly as they
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: did away from this story. And if he was a
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: good player, I think that they would have waited a
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: little while longer and let the process play out before
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: they made their decision. It was the next morning, Hugh,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: like the newspaper reports came out and the next morning
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: the Lions all right, stories out, were done with this,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: and they moved on from him. And that's an organization
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: that could use secondary. He helped more so than maybe
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: anybody in.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: The National Football League. So I'm kind of with you
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: on this.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna break the Seahawks in any way,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: shape or form. Uh. And I get maybe rolling the
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: dice on somebody that you liked a couple of years
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: ago who's still very young, and you feel like you
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: can get the most out of him. But yeah, I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: think that I got a really great thing going here,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure Terry and Arnold helps that all
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: that much.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a fair incident inference about the line
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: of thinking of the Lions. I mean, there could be
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: other elements involved in there, but you know, there was
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: there was something that kind of just struck me on
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: the on the Hard Knocks here, Mike McDonald's addressing the team,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: and I use the term warriors in the Garden, and
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: some people, if they didn't see Hard Knocks, are going
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: what is he talking about?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: That?
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: That is a Mike McDonald's reference where he now, he
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: may have known that Leonard Williams, you know, likes the
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: Garden because that got revealed in the show, and so
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: he may have already known that this was going to
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: land pretty well by using that term. But he says
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: warriors in the Guardians.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: What does that mean?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: He says, Hey, well, we'll drop. We're ready to drop
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: and compete and go to war with you at any time.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: But we're good human beings.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: We're good fathers, we're good citizens, we're good husbands.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm paraphrasing at this point. But that's the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: gist of it.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: And so he's trying to appeal to his team like, hey,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: this is who you are.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: I'm showing you of me.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: I'm holding up the mirror to tell you who you
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: who who you are. You are great freaking violent warriors
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: who are outstanding citizens. That's what he's trying to tell
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: his team. That's not me theorizing.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: That's hard knock.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: That's the HBO showing you it.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: You don't even have to hear the audioce you can
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: see hear the audio and see the video. And so
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: do I want one Siak in his mind just kind
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: of rolling on his eyes going yeah, right, coach, you know,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: you know, because you know, really really, you know, spare me.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't want any of that thought coming
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: into one Seahawk's mind, right, not unless he's den freaking Sanders,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: you know, like when they say, okay, let's let's kind.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: Of way this hang out.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Uh as Jimmy Johnson did in front of the in
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: the Cowboy team meeting room when he said, I'm not
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: going to evaluate the backup left guard like uh like
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: compared to Troy Aikman, he said those words exactly. He's
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: basically saying we know we'll tolerate you based on what
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: you produce on the field, is basically what he said,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: you know, which was probably as he was explained why
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Michael Irvan.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: Is a cowboy, you know.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: But but any of it I digress. So that's just
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: kind of some of my thoughts. I'm not, you know,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: one man's opinion as a fan, as an analyst, I'm
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: not uh outraged by it. I just kind of if
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: you if you push yes or no binary, do you
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: do this?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: If you're making the call, I would lean no, Yeah,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: same with me.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: All Right, a couple of minutes here, any last minute
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: items that do you want to clean up?
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: Talk about from Saturday? Anything else before we let you
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: go till the next time.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that the wide receivers group seems a little.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: Thin to me. I mentioned a royal.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like the target I
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: don't know, the guys who were touching the ball on
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: Saturday night, I wasn't impressed.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: I feel like they.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Need pretty much just Bobo and Foster. I mean, they
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: got twelve targets on the on the night. I don't
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: know if they were the only guys getting open or
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: if Milroe and Locke were just locked in on those two.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: But it fell like every drop back was either to
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: Bobo or to Foster.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was there was times where other guys
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: were missed. I think, I think you saw uh from
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks their preferences and and but as I look
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: at the tape, I'm going to wait, man, Like there
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: was Drew Locke had an out route that that he
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: had done in the red zone where he threw uh.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: He threw the ball to Foster and he got like
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: five or six yards. But the but pre snap, you
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: could see that there was a window that was going
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: to open up on a concept I call fossil, which
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: is fade on the inside and slant on the on
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: the outside.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: So fossil uh.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: Is is is the word conjunction of those two that
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: Seahawks had Brown Fox fossil?
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: Why brown?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: Because the second letters are black is the second letters
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: l so brown to the right brown fossil was coming
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: wide open and they and if I'm coaching Drew Locke,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, you got a touchdown here, stay with
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: the fossil. So so and I give one example because
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: we're so at a time I could give other examples,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: but that that was an issue I think left guard
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: there was there was a guy, Mason Richmond that made
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: an impression on me. You know, looking at him, I'm like, whoa,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: that's a tall guard. And I didn't even look up
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: his his height, but I see now he's six foot five,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: so he just looks kind of have like a tackle frame.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: He he was very inconsistent. His bad plays were not good,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: but his good plays showed a ceiling that you don't
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: normally see in a preseason game with all backups and
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: guys are going to get cut. So I think that
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: I think that Mason Richmond is going to get my attention,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: you know, to the extent like you're probably thinking, really,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: is that where we're at we're talking about left backup
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: left guards?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Well, they're not as important as I know that.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: Good recall, So.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: Any man, I'm just kind of randomizing, you know, some
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: of my observations there.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, awesome stuff, Thank you sir, We
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: It won't be long now before we're doing it for real.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: So good stuff here today.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: All right, two more of this just rehearsal, then we'll
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: get out of here.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: All right, thanks you check.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: There's our QB one you Millan little Monday morning quarterback session.
• 1:37:26
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  Speaker 6: Because he's pretty much an extreme guy.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's the youngness in him. And yet the
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: difference between a sweep and then just taking two out
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  Speaker 1: of three, I mean that's a successful trip to Houston
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  Speaker 1: to take two out of three, but to be two
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• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: like a pretty major difference right now. And yet they
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: didn't achieve that. They came very close at least, I
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: mean sliding doors. I have no idea how winning Friday
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: might have impacted the way they played Saturday and then Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll say this, the way they played this weekend,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: even Friday night. So now you know, I don't say
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: this just after wins. I thought them battling back from
• 1:39:45
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• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: backs against the walls and showing fight. Now granted it
• 1:39:51
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  Speaker 2: Got to come somewhere, but to battle.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Back and then in the tenth score two runs and
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: put all that pressure. Andre's Munoz did not pitch that
• 1:40:02
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• 1:40:07
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• 1:40:10
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• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: through the infield. I mean, yeah, the Christian walker was
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: a bomb and that was a mistake, but he should
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: have been out of that inning before that. So I
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: liked the way that they fought on Friday, even though
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a perfect game. And then I think they
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: carried that over into Saturday, and I think they carried
• 1:40:31
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• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: didn't get your sweep, I don't think they died.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 6: I don't think they died this weekend.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: If anything, I think they showed the most life they've
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: shown in quite some time.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: Ashley, and I think that was the biggest thing, is
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 8: to go into that game on Friday and battle back
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 8: the way they did. I mean if Dan at the
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 8: end of that one would have said, it is a
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 8: tough one tonight. Yeah, that was a tough one tonight.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 8: But because they they did, dang it, fight till end.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 8: But that could have gone one of two ways.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: The next day.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 8: I mean you could have been like, oh, we just
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: can't get any like nothing falling in our favor, and
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 8: you could feel defeated going into Saturday. And so to
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 8: see what we saw out of them on Saturday and
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 8: Sunday after that tough loss, especially after that tough loss
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 8: on Friday, I think was the most promising part. And
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't have said sweep or die, but I would
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 8: have said win or die, because if you don't win
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: that series, that's a big Yeah, that's a big problem.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: And look, crazy things happen, Like if they rattle off
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: of seventeen game winning streak, then they're gonna win the division, right,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: And we've seen teams do that. We saw the Oakland
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: A's run twenty in a row. They made a movie
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: about it. Uh, for goodness sake. I mean this team
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: itself has gone on crazy runs in the last five years.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Just when you thought that they were dead. So if
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: they even if they would have gotten swept, if they
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: win thirty games in a row, they're gonna win the division.
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  Speaker 1: Like a crazy winning streak can mute all conversations. But
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: where was that good baseball.
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  Speaker 6: Going to come from?
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  Speaker 1: They didn't do everything well Friday night, obviously, but I
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  Speaker 1: thought that that was the most fight we've seen from
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: the offense in a while for three straight games, And
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  Speaker 1: it does kind of give you the indication that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to predict fifteen wins in a row,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: but are you in a position to win more than
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: you lose during this gauntlet stretch which is upcoming? And
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: then does that put you in a position can you
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: be within two or three games on September third, where
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: the schedule gets really really light, and in that instance,
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  Speaker 1: you're very much viable. You are entirely alive at that point.
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  Speaker 1: So they didn't sweep, they didn't die, ye, And they
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  Speaker 1: showed some life, and they showed some scrap and they
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: showed some fight.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna give Brendan Day some credit for that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Brock Rotten some credit for that, and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Victor Roblace some credit for that, because
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  Speaker 1: I think those three guys spark them Friday night in
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: a loss.
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  Speaker 8: Goodness sake, they did, and it just goes to show
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  Speaker 8: you too, that this team does have more firepower than
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 8: we're giving you know, a lot of the lineup credit
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  Speaker 8: for it because you're you've got all it's there.
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  Speaker 6: It has been dormant right long.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, But I.
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  Speaker 8: Mean that should give fans some hope, some optimism looking
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  Speaker 8: at that and seeing, Okay, it doesn't have to come
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 8: from Cal and Josh and Julio. It would be nice
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  Speaker 8: if it did, but as long as someone else is
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 8: stepping up to come in and help out on those
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 8: days where all three of them don't have it or
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 8: where it's not I mean, Naylor's been playing I think,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 8: a lot better and getting on base a.
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  Speaker 6: Lot you've been lately, yeah, really good.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so for him to have some help if it's
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  Speaker 8: not coming from Cal that night, or it's not coming
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 8: from Julio that night, I mean, and he's got Randy,
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  Speaker 8: and Randy's still playing.
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  Speaker 2: Really consistently on off.
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  Speaker 8: So I do think this team has enough and if
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 8: these little, if these extra guys, these other smaller bit
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 8: players in your lineup offensively can step up and do
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 8: things like brock Rowden Rock Rowden and Victor Rolblaze, who
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 8: shouldn't be in an extra smaller part of your lineup.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 8: He should be in your lineup playing more consistently, I think,
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  Speaker 8: I mean what we saw from him last year too,
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  Speaker 8: So I just it gives you hope that Okay, if
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 8: cal can't find it, or he can only find it
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 8: once every four games. I mean, he found he had
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 8: the home run yesterday that was very needed. So if
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 8: he can only find it at once every four games
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 8: and the consistency is just not there for him this year, okay, where's.
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  Speaker 2: It coming from? And I think we got some good
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: answers now the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think he is showing a little bit of
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: life from the right side of the plate. It's the
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: left side of the plate he's just lost on. He
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: had one of the worst at bats of the season
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: against Hunter Brown.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just three They're not even they're not
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: even trying to throw high fat They're just.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: Like, we're gonna throw it right in the middle of
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: the plate.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're and he's he's yes, timing is too.
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  Speaker 6: He's just he's.
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  Speaker 1: Taking the pitches that he should swing at and swinging
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: at the pitches that he shouldn't. It is just the
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: opposite of where you want to be, and he can't
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: figure it out. I did like his answer though, when
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: they did, because they went to him to interview him
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: on the national broadcast last night and his answer was,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't.
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  Speaker 6: I don't care about my numbers. I don't care about
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: myself right now. This is all about what does this
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 6: team need for us to get where we want to go.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 6: And that's the right answer to take. But obviously if
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: we get you playing well, that's going to help the team.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, I was gonna say, if
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 8: he doesn't focus on that, perhaps he's better able to
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: help the team versus how am I going to get right?
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  Speaker 6: Man?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I should point this out because it happened over the weekend.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale wrote an article about tending managers who might
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: have to make it to the playoffs in order to
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: keep their jobs. Don Mattingly was one of them. He's
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: somebody that already saved them once. So now in Philadelphia
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: they think that maybe he is just going to be
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: an interim manager there. According to John excuse me to
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale that Alex core is like already locked in
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: for next season as the manager of the Philadelphia Phillies.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of other names that he mentioned
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: as well that might have to make the playoffs in
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: order to keep their jobs. And here in Seattle, according
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: to Nightingale, in the American League, Seattle Mariners manager Dan
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: Wilson is expected to be fired if the Mariners missed
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, and the same goes for Astro's manager Joe Espada.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: So that's that kind of flies in the face of
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: what we've heard. I mean, we've all speculated about it,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: but it looks like Dan's going to be given the
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: opportunity to win with this team, kind of put together
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: a late season run here and try to squeeze into
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: the playoffs in a year where right now they should
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: have no business still having a shot at a playoff spot.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: But because the American League right now has a team
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs that's two games under five hundred if
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: the season ended today, because we keep talking about the
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: four games, they're only two and a half back in
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: the wild card for goodness sake. So you do have
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: a chance, despite how poorly the team has played this year,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: to still get into the playoffs, and it might be
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: the only thing that keeps Dan Wilson the manager of
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: the team going into next year. So August twenty second,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: remember that's when Jerry fired Scott Servis and you almost
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: rallied and made it into the playoffs under Dan Wilson
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: with a new voice. So I think they've had opportunities
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: to make this move, but it really feels like they're
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: not going to. It's going to be Dan's baby to
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: the end of the year, and if he can't get
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: it done, then we might have a different story in
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: the off season.
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  Speaker 8: And I think that's what I would have expected. I
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 8: would be shocked if they had come up and decided nope.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 8: Well maybe not shocked if they got swept in Houston,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 8: maybe I would expect something like that. But I still think, yeah,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 8: they're gonna let him go throughout the year because he
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 8: is a Mariner's legend and they do respect him and
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 8: they do probably want him to stay somehow a part
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 8: of the organization.
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  Speaker 2: So to go through the end of the year and
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: see how it goes and then make your decision. I
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the common theme is everyone in the organization
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: loves him. Yeah, okay, great, then let him host, bake
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: sales and let him be around all the time. I
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: need him to be I need him to get the
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: most out of the talent. He's right, that's what I
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: need out of a manager. I don't need a nice guy.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: I don't need somebody that everybody in the organization loves.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: I don't need everybody. I don't need a friend.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need somebody that on a daily basis gets
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: a team to play its best, and not every day,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: but more often than not. And this team hasn't played
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: its best yet.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my coach, my college coach said.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 6: Even this weekend was not their best.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, my college coach said to us. He
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 8: called me to the office one day and said, do
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: you think I'm a good coach? And I said, oh
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 8: my god, I don't know how I'm supposed to answer this.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 8: I'm terrifying.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: What's the right right?
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 8: And he said, my goal is for you girls, who
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 8: are all coming from different backgrounds and wherever you are,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 8: to get along with each other.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: And I don't care.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 8: If you don't like me, and if you go into
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 8: the locker room and your complaints are about me and
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 8: not each other, then.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: I'm doing something right.
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  Speaker 6: Oh interesting.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, plays throw a lot about him.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah wait, did you complain a lot about him?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well he should have wore pants moral Oh.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he should have probably not got people into
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 8: taking money to get people into USC And they play
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 8: water polo.
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  Speaker 1: Oh there that's another thing. Yeah, all right, one last
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