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Assessing a sweep, Dillon Dingler & the road ahead · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, Tiger's podcast. I'm hearing Steckley with
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  Speaker 1: me as always as a man who avoids all types
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  Speaker 1: of catwalks.
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  Speaker 2: He is coachy, Stavinagan, how are we.
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  Speaker 3: Doing doing good?
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  Speaker 4: I've always wanted to go up on one of those
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  Speaker 4: in the stadium. Actually I would do it, just just
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  Speaker 4: see what it looks like up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen videos.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think if I freak out a little
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  Speaker 1: bit as soon as you get.
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  Speaker 3: There, there's plenty of stuff to hold on too.
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  Speaker 1: Let me fine, Well, okay, well is there there's a
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  Speaker 1: good transition right there, Cody. We're recording this on Thursday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously the Tigers swept the Rays. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: having done this since that, havn't done that since this.
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  Speaker 1: Uh stuff with this but uh we talked Tuesday night
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  Speaker 1: after they had clinched the series and mood was really good.
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  Speaker 1: And now the mood can't help but still remain really high.
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  Speaker 1: Is there enough to hang on to here, Cody for
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers to.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to speak too many steps ahead, but
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  Speaker 1: at least kind of be like more serious than what
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  Speaker 1: we experienced in the month of May.
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  Speaker 2: Is it to hold onto there?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think that's kind of the goal, right, Let's
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  Speaker 4: be more serious, Let's play a little better, Let's be
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  Speaker 4: more serious and see where that leads. I think that's
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  Speaker 4: a good starting point for the team. For fans. Having
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  Speaker 4: a baseball podcast three times a week is pretty hard.
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  Speaker 4: Like we've talked about, you know, we try not to
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  Speaker 4: ride the roller coaster, but the nature of doing this
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  Speaker 4: is like you're you're strapped into the roller coaster here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think anything that happens from here excuses what
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  Speaker 4: we saw in May. That was bad and it went
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  Speaker 4: beyond the injuries to go four and twenty one, six
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  Speaker 4: and twenty two. That shouldn't happen. But the page has
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  Speaker 4: been flipped. The Tigers are off to a great start
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  Speaker 4: in June. They are going to get healthier. There are
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  Speaker 4: some things to look forward to. I know a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people have already checked out or stopped watching or
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  Speaker 4: stop listening to us, But I find this kind of
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  Speaker 4: interesting because every game is pretty high stakes, like there
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  Speaker 4: is something on the line here. You don't necessarily want
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  Speaker 4: it to feel like must win playoff games in June.
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  Speaker 4: That's not necessarily a good thing, but in a way,
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  Speaker 4: that's what it feels like. The Tigers need to stack
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  Speaker 4: as many wins as they can. Playing at five hundred
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  Speaker 4: or you know, going you know, sixteen and fourteen isn't
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  Speaker 4: gonna be enough. They gotta win games. They gotta win
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  Speaker 4: games in bunches. And you know what, they're off to
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  Speaker 4: a good start. They earned that win in Tampa by
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  Speaker 4: playing really well, by hitting the ball, like they have
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  Speaker 4: not hit the ball since I don't even know when,
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  Speaker 4: first half of last year maybe, so I think the
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  Speaker 4: team deserves some credit for that after a dismal month.
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  Speaker 4: Now we'll see what the future holds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again some of this will be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit repetitive from Tuesday, which again sometimes is problem with
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  Speaker 1: doing these things so close together and only having one
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  Speaker 1: game in between. But like there clearly there was no
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  Speaker 1: quit here because that was that had a set up
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  Speaker 1: to be like this could be really ugly, and then
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  Speaker 1: we as we talked about last time, the Monday night
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  Speaker 1: aspect of it, you know, this had the potential to
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  Speaker 1: just be really ugly, and you want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: checked out, checked out.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the case.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like the emotions I saw watching the team
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  Speaker 1: were real, even stuff like Matt Vierling having a a
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  Speaker 1: sack fly scored a run. I believe this was Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: and like fist pumping the fact that he had a
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  Speaker 1: sack fly, not just like all right, yeah that was cool.
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  Speaker 1: There's like, you know, really like excited about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like those kind of little things make me feel like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: this can be a more serious operation moving forward. In
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  Speaker 1: addition to the fact that with due respect to the
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  Speaker 1: lineups that were put out there in the month of May,
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  Speaker 1: now we're gonna see a more series looking operation. Just
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  Speaker 1: when you look at the lineup card and obviously Labor
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  Speaker 1: Torres and carry Carpenter, you know, you want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about INSCIDT impact, they had all that as well, and
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  Speaker 1: then you throw in the pitching element, which maybe we
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  Speaker 1: should go right there.
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  Speaker 2: There right now.
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  Speaker 1: Cody Troy Melton, I don't know how like he does
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  Speaker 1: not appear to be a serious person.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that as a compliment. He's pretty chill. Like
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  Speaker 2: he's pretty chill.
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  Speaker 1: He's like flappable and so like he's not like gonna
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  Speaker 1: snarl his nostrils at you, But the dude can deal
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  Speaker 1: and even when he runs into a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: trouble that doesn't bother him at all. He ends up
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  Speaker 1: going eight innings, four hits, two runs, and five strikeouts.
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  Speaker 1: I believe zero walks, but I didn't have that written.
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  Speaker 1: No two walks, two walks. Me and and and so
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  Speaker 1: really settled that game down and then gave the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: innings man with like what like seven five, eight, Like
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  Speaker 1: he was just as efficient as you. I've seen a
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  Speaker 1: Tiger's pitcher in the back half of a game like
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  Speaker 1: a starting pitcher. I've seen it a long time. So
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  Speaker 1: Troy Melton, you want to hang on to something, Hang
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  Speaker 1: on with Troy Melton.
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  Speaker 4: And how about AJ Hinch letting him roll? Now, there
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  Speaker 4: wasn't a scenario quite like the one Cater Montero face,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think with three lefties coming up. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know was a lesson learned. There was Aj just
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  Speaker 4: rolling with the feel a little bit more. It all
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  Speaker 4: worked out now the bullpen was depleted, so there was
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  Speaker 4: incentive for Melton to go as deep in that game
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  Speaker 4: as possible. That also wasn't there with the Montero thing.
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  Speaker 4: But I liked aj letting them roll love the way
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  Speaker 4: Troy Milton responded, especially after he didn't get into the
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  Speaker 4: game very well, a rough strike throwing in the first inning,
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  Speaker 4: shaky in the second inning, and then something clicked in
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  Speaker 4: and he was terrific. Melton, in my mind, has really
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  Speaker 4: become one of the most important players for kind of
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  Speaker 4: the long term outlook of this organization. I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 4: want to skip right ahead to twenty twenty seven, but
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  Speaker 4: let's do it anyway, Like, what's your rotation going to
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  Speaker 4: look like? Well, you got from Er under contract and
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  Speaker 4: you lose in theory Trek Scoogle, you lose in theory
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  Speaker 4: Casey minds, you lose Jack Flaherty. Troy Melton could essentially
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  Speaker 4: be your number two. I mean, well, I guess Jackson
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  Speaker 4: job right, That's that's the guy with the real upside.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's going to be waiting on. Reesulsen will be coming back,
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  Speaker 4: Melton Montero. That's without doing anything, that's actually not a
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  Speaker 4: terrible rotation concerning you just lose Trek Scuoble, and especially
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  Speaker 4: especially if Melton can not just be a three or four,
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  Speaker 4: if he can emerge as more of a frontline guy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you might be an.
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  Speaker 4: Okay shape next year. I don't know, you'll need more
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  Speaker 4: depth now. They still have a lot to fill out
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  Speaker 4: on the pitching front. But in terms of even how
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  Speaker 4: you feel about the twenty twenty seven season, what Troy
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  Speaker 4: Melton does from here on out is huge, is pretty consequential.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would also say that, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his it's still evolving.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, he's a very young picture.
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  Speaker 1: That's not like you know, breaking news here, but what
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  Speaker 1: we from like the sample sizes that we have and
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  Speaker 1: to know that he's not a finished product is about
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  Speaker 1: as encouraging as you could have on this team from
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  Speaker 1: a long term pitching perspective. So I love watching him pitch.
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  Speaker 1: I love him on the mound. I love his little
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  Speaker 1: his little quirks. I said this last year, he got
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  Speaker 1: shelled in the postseason Game two against Cleveland, and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to see how he was going to be like
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  Speaker 1: for Game three, just like you know, how he was
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  Speaker 1: bouncing around.
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  Speaker 3: He's a cowie guy man.
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  Speaker 2: Like you could tell.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, that's great, That's exactly what I
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  Speaker 1: want out out of the starting pitcher. So so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: credit to Troy Melton there. And then as we kind
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: of look back before we look forward. Here, I did
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  Speaker 1: want to read something. This was a Jake Rogers quote.
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  Speaker 1: It's in Jason. I'm sure it's in other people's stories,
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  Speaker 1: but I saw Jason BECKMLB dot Com had it, and
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  Speaker 1: so I'm going to read it out loud here, So
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  Speaker 1: bear with me for a second. I want Cody's reaction again.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jake roy. It was a rough may, a
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  Speaker 2: really rough may.
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  Speaker 1: I think the boys were down and out, just looking
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  Speaker 1: for the next thing to get us over the hump,
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  Speaker 1: kept getting punched, couldn't get out of that hole. It
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  Speaker 1: felt really good to come in here and be aggressive,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that was the mode of this series.
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  Speaker 1: We've been kind of playing timid. This team has a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun, and I think that kind of voice,
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  Speaker 1: I think that kind of I'm sorry, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that kind of the voice of the clubhouse. Go back
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  Speaker 1: to who we are and at least have fun while
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  Speaker 1: we're doing it. That's about as like into the weeds
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  Speaker 1: as you're gonna get mostly, Cody, obviously, you know this
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  Speaker 1: better than anybody does. That statement there kind of reflect
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  Speaker 1: your observations from the you know, the past month plus.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to get a little more into the weeds.
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  Speaker 4: Sound like someone might have had to come to Jesus
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  Speaker 4: meeting finally in that clubhouse. I don't know, but it
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  Speaker 4: certainly reflects the mood. I like the honesty that they
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  Speaker 4: were down and out, because that's I mean, they were
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  Speaker 4: how could they be on the field we saw it,
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  Speaker 4: kept getting punched in the mouth, lost some close games
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  Speaker 4: that where they had the lead or where they were
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  Speaker 4: about to win, and then gout walked off a couple times.
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  Speaker 3: The mood wasn't great.
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  Speaker 4: And just to watch even from Afar and see the
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  Speaker 4: bats come alive, see the energy, see the reactions you
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  Speaker 4: were talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Like that was good. That was refreshing.
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  Speaker 4: It's a reminder for fans, I think, a reminder for
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  Speaker 4: the team. The players themselves. They're like, no, this is
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  Speaker 4: a pretty good should be a pretty good team, getting
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  Speaker 4: a couple guys back healthy, Like this roster is about
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  Speaker 4: to resemble the one that pretty much everyone liked at
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  Speaker 4: the outset of the season. So those are your reasons
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  Speaker 4: for optimism, those are your reasons for hope after such
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: a bad month. It was kind of the question, like, well,
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  Speaker 4: can they rebound, can they recover for this or is
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  Speaker 4: this just never gonna look right again? At least for
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  Speaker 4: three days, it started to look right and you got
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  Speaker 4: some more help coming. So that's good. I like Jake
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  Speaker 4: being real about the situation, the good and the bad
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  Speaker 4: of it too.
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  Speaker 1: We've been kind of playing timid, That's the big one
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  Speaker 1: for me. We've been kind of playing timid, and somebody,
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  Speaker 1: I guess probably had to tell him like if that
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  Speaker 1: go out and just like just don't worry, just don't
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  Speaker 1: worry and have fun, you know what I mean. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty simple concept, but and it seems like
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  Speaker 1: easy to like sell and do. But when you have
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  Speaker 1: these expectations, when you've had the success that these guys
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  Speaker 1: have had the past couple of seasons, and then all
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: these things are going against you in the moment, it's
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  Speaker 1: probably really hard. And again you're just waiting for the
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  Speaker 1: next thing, the next ball to hit off somebody, the
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  Speaker 1: next injury. Like It's like, these are humans and baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Even though the pace is faster now, it's still a
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: relatively slow paced game. A lot of thinking goes on
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  Speaker 1: and on that diamond, you know. Uh so I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was of course it was Jake. Of course it
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: was Jake to eloquently put it out there, and I
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: think sometimes people get down on him because he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: hit I don't know what he's hitting right now, what one,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's low, get home run. Good for him.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out to Jake himself, this guy who hit twenty
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  Speaker 4: homers in the big leagues before. I know it's tough
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  Speaker 4: when you're not playing a lot, but for him to
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  Speaker 4: to finally go deep again run into one, that's got
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  Speaker 4: to be a tremendous feeling. He's hitting one sixty seven
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  Speaker 4: for the record, give him some credit.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: And but I'll tell you that right there, that statement,
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  Speaker 1: that's worth one hundred batting average points. All right, maybe
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  Speaker 1: not one hundred, but it's worth something.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I'm telling you it's worth something.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, good on Jake, and good on the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: for a sweep in Tampa. All right, we are going
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  Speaker 1: to take a break, and then on the other side.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the.
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  Speaker 1: Most complicating factor and trying to figure out if this
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: team can do it?
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Can they do it that? Next?
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  Speaker 2: All right, coming back here, Cody.
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  Speaker 1: Like the All Star push for voting and all that
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  Speaker 1: stuff is start across Major League Baseball and so like
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  Speaker 1: it got me thinking, you know, people are putting out
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  Speaker 1: their sample ballots and stuff, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Dingler, Kevin McGonagall, Riley Green. At worst, you would
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  Speaker 1: say they're All Star caliber players, and that's a guy
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  Speaker 1: at every level too, and they're positional players obviously. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to fathom a team with three
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  Speaker 1: All Star caliber players slash like in Dinglis's case, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, of bona fide star and just like write
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  Speaker 1: them off. That's the thing that I just can't connect.
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  Speaker 1: And that's something that I'm gonna have to either be
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  Speaker 1: proven right about or just gonna have to give up on.
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  Speaker 2: Those are really the only two options.
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  Speaker 1: But these are three stellar players that you know, key positions,
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  Speaker 1: especially McGonagall and Dingler, who like are going to represent
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  Speaker 1: potentially the team in the.
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  Speaker 2: All Star Game. And that just.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like that should be enough with all these other
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  Speaker 1: pieces this roster that we all like just a couple
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  Speaker 1: months ago to you know, at least again be serious
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  Speaker 1: and make some sort of push. So that's the thing
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  Speaker 1: that's rallying around in my mind right now.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's kind of a great way to look at
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the Tigers had six All Stars last year
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  Speaker 4: and this has been a train wreck. Of the first half,
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  Speaker 4: and unless someone has snobbed, I would expect him to
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  Speaker 4: have four throwing Derek Scooble, I mean, he's assuming he
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  Speaker 4: gets back and has a couple of good stars to
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  Speaker 4: find him there. If I'm John Schneider, I'm probably taking
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  Speaker 4: Trek Scooble and my All Star staff. He could still
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  Speaker 4: start the All Star Game for all we know. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: Kam Schlitzler will started. I don't know, but he's going
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  Speaker 4: to be in that running so long as he gets
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  Speaker 4: back and he looks good. So you're gonna have four
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  Speaker 4: All Stars. How many teams are going to have more
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  Speaker 4: than that? Like one two, there's not going to be
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  Speaker 4: mini now. In a way, that speaks to something we've
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  Speaker 4: been talking about the whole time. The Tigers have got
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  Speaker 4: contributions from three position players kind of no one else
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  Speaker 4: has even been league average, So like that in itself
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  Speaker 4: does explain a lot. But the Tigers have some good players.
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  Speaker 4: Labor Torrez is back, he should be better than league average.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see what you get out of Kerry Carpenter. He's
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: off to a nice little start. Yeah, there is some
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: high end talent on this team. Even like I did
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: a mail bag. You know, with the trade deadline, talking
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: about retooling, getting questions like should the Tigers still be platooning?
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  Speaker 4: And that's interesting because the Tigers do have three really
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: good bats in their lineup, But you look even into
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  Speaker 4: the next year or two, it's like, Okay, well, how
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: are they going to get more everyday bats or they're
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: more All Star bats in there, you know, whether on
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  Speaker 4: the way or can they get them some other other reason. Well,
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: we got a long time to talk about that. But
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  Speaker 4: it's an interesting way to look at this team. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think the fact you have four All Stars, I
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  Speaker 4: think that's.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit of a mote of confidence.
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  Speaker 4: You could certainly be in worse shape. I do expect
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  Speaker 4: this team to play better. I don't really know what
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  Speaker 4: that means. It might be too late, but I do
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  Speaker 4: expect this team to play better.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, focus on Dingler for a second. Hard
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: to imagine offensively a guy could play better than he
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: did this week in Tampa. We have this graphic up
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: courtesy of Tigers PR. If you're watching on YouTube, Dylan
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Danglers we're going to have competing against his Peers leads
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: all major league catchers with two point five f wour.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: He posted nine RBI in the sweep of Tampa earlier
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: this week, becoming the first Tigers player with nine plus
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: rbi in a three game series since Miguel Cabrera in
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: September two thousand and sixteen. It's a long time ago,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Cody's It's going on ten years. So yeah, like that
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that was really impressive, and it got me thinking, like,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: where does Dingler rank on this team? Probably one, but
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to answer for you on the like
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and just still worry about it all right, just like
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: like like we got a lot of things that we
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: gotta focus on, like if you're a fan, if you're
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: the media, if you're obviously in the organization, Like I
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: got a lot to focus on. Like that's like the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: good Son you know over there, Like we're just not
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: gonna give They're gonna we don't have to worry about it,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: so we're not gonna worry about it as much.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like that list is kind of Dingler and
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: McGonagall and that's it. McGonagall still have a little bit
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: of rookie worry and you know, are we playing him
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: too much?
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, blah. Maybe it's just Dingler, dude like that,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: if you know the All Star thing that was a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: positive part of it. The other side is like like
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the list of just don't even worry about just like
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: throw it out that way, uh, is pretty short. Because
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: even Riley Green, as we've talked about, like I was
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: surprised that he was in the lineup on Thursday or
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: excuse me, Wednesday, because I just kind of assumed this
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: was right for a day off. Didn't happen. You have
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a day off today and we move on. But Riley
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Green that that concern is always there. And then obviously
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the rest of the lineup, you guys you know know it, Cole, Keith,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Carry Carpenter, like all these guys there there is some
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: sort of worry. But Dylan Dingler, the dude even runs too.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't even worry about it. But
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: so the list is pretty short. So that to come
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: back to reality a little bit, that would be the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: splash of cold waters. Like those lists of don't even
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: worry about those guys is pretty short. Maybe it's just Dingler.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you think.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Well, that's a good way to look at it too.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think he's probably number one on
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the list. I mean, I don't worry much about Kevin McGonagall,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: but just the fact he's a rookie, Like you want
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: to make sure he develops well. You are playing them
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: at multiple positions, kind of waiting for the power to
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: kick in. There's maybe like a little there's just a
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: little more going on there. And yeah, Riley Green, he
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: always got a monitor his health. Even recently he's still
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: been a little bit streaky. I want to make sure
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: he's staying in the strike zone. Like Dingler's not perfect either,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: and Dingler's gonna, you know, go through hot stretches and
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: he had a little cold stretch. He is playing a lot.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: He's played in I think fifty six games. He's dhing
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: now on days he's not catching, but it's just kind
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: of like, oh no, Ding's got it. I mean he's
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: a busy man. It's hard to catch him in the
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: clubhouse because he's if he's not working on something, he's
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: getting treatment. If he's not getting treatment, he's doing some
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: game prep, or he's working with the pitchers, or he's
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: down in the cage. I mean, this guy's bouncing around
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: a lot and yet it's like, yeah, he's got it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: It's incredible to remember this is only his second full
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: major league season, because he seems like someone who has
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: been doing this for a long long time, kind of
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: like Kevin McGonagall does. And that's a blessing to just
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: have that steady, stoic presence, especially the guy calling the game,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: the guys who is behind the plate, the player Dingler
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: has developed into man really just really deserves a lot
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: of credit. He was always a good prospect. I always
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: liked him, but I don't if you would have told
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: me he'd be the best guy in baseball, like I
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: probably would have thought that was a stretch.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: But here he is.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, cal Raley's been heard obviously, but Dom Dingler's
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: a legit star catcher. It's it's pretty incredible.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that like impresses
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: me about Dingler is like, even if you know you're
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: not behind the scenes, like you are, just like watching
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: him in his preparation before a game, like you can
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: just like tell just like how like meticulous and serious
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: he is about everything that he does. And uh, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: just like the the way he picks up his pitchers
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: or gives him a pat in the butt, like after
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: each ning or whatever. You can tell he's always got
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: probably the right thing to say, you know what I mean,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: walk into the dugout and I will I will say that,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: like I would like this team to get to a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: point where he doesn't have to DH on days that
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Jake Rodgers behind the plate. But you know, there's a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: lot of wishes you would have for this team coming
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: off that month of May. So I'm not here to
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: be of it, but I wouldn't say it's like my
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: ideal scenario.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, let him have like an actual day off,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that would be.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see, getting Carry Carpenter back might allow them
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: a little more leeway to do that. Now the problem
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: is just Dingler's hot again.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: So it's like, especially when every game counts, like we
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: talked about, like a you really going to take him
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: out of the lineup?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and again I'll say this, it's it's not
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: just that it's his second full season. It's really just
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: basically a little bit more than a calendar year of
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: him being the catcher. Yeah, it's easy to forget that
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: last year like he was you know, going into the season,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: like he was the number two catcher. So obviously Jake
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Rodgers gets hurt, has he a bleak? I believe has
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: an oblique And then you know, Dingler's just kind of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: thrust into this and just haven't looked back since.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: So a lot of a lot has changed for.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Dylan Dingler in the in the calendar year. And again
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he deserves a lot of credit for that. All right,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: let's uh, let's transition to another thought that I had here, Cody,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And that's you know, the platoon thing is that discussion
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: is not gonna go away?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Is it fair to say, like we're.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: It's it's always been a discussion.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: We haven't necessarily talked about it a talent over over
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: the years, but yeah, it's it's always gonna be a thing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And and I thought you they had a mail bag
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: on the Athletic that I thought kind of put it
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: really well where and again, tell me if I'm misparaphrasing
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: here you Cody, but you basically wrote that, you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the idea was this kind of thing was a vehicle
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to get you from point A to point B with
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the player developments where you wouldn't necessarily have to rely
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: on it, or wouldn't necessarily be as key part of
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: your DNA. And and this is my these are my words,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: not yours, but it kind of has an expiration date,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: or at least it should. Uh, that's not what's happening
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: right now. And I like Jami Jones seems like a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: cool guy. The family connections and all that stuff are fun.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: You got a guy with seventy six at bats here,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Cody seventy six at bats this season with a negative
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: point eight war.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: He is not fulfilling his.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: End of the bargain right now with the platoon thing,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: with like his just natural slotted spot in the lineup
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: when there's a leftie starting, or with the with the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: pinch hit situation. And so I think, well, the vibes
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: are awesome right now. There is like a little bit
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: of pressure on Jamai Jon. I would say a lot
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: of bit of pressure on Jamai Jones to a get
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it going and then b hope that the team gets
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: it going, because if the team goes into the tank,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: there's not really it's not really a point to having
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a veteran like Jamaia Jones, like, you know, kind of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: having this role.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: You gotta get lee at bats.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: You gotta get Anderson at bats, you gotta do like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: this at the other thing, and then if the team
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: is rolling, then you're back to having the pressure of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: every at back because you're only going to bat in
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the crucial situations. So like, either way, no matter which
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: direction this season goes, I'm looking at Jami Jones a lot,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: maybe unfairly, but that's kind of the role. And we've
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: been giving him, like I think we've been doing a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: good job on this podcast of giving him his time
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and space to figure it out because it is a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of a it's a tough job. It's a
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: tough job, yeah, but at the same time, that's the job.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, scid it before I'll say it again, Like, it's
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: not easy being in the role he's in where.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: You don't always play a lot.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: When you're coming in as a pinch hitter, you're facing
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: a nasty lefty, it's the biggest moment in the game.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: It's not a great way, it's not necessarily conducive to
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: getting hot, but yeah, negative eight point eight war that's
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: not exactly what you're looking for. And it does speak
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: to kind of the broader criticism of the construction of
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: this roster, Like, okay, if the twenty twenty three Tigers
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: were platoon orient or the twenty twenty four Tigers, Okay,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: like this is twenty twenty six. We are in year
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: four of Scott Harris. AJ Hinch has been the manager
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: now for six years. I think if you would have
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: told AJ on his first day, say six years from now,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be leading the major leagues and Pinch hit
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: at bats, I don't think he would have loved it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to speak for AJ, but
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think he would have loved that. And you
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: do have some talent, and you do still have some
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: talent in the farm. But even Max Clark, like Max
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Clark saiding left, he's actually I think better than Righty's
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: right now in Toledo. But like, what does Max Clark
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: look like in the major leagues don't we don't know
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: for sure. And beyond that, like I think hoaak Way
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Bersinio can hit a little bit like beyond that until
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: you get to Bryce Rayner, who's still in what high
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: A Like, you don't necessarily have guys banging down the
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: door to be the next dude's up when you're major
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: league Ross or how You Lee, Max Anderson pretty good
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: little pieces. A lot of teams would probably like those guys,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: but they're probably like short sighted platoon bats, or at
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: least that's how how You Lee was mostly used when
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: he was here, and I think that's the design they
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: have for Max Anderson. So I don't love that, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know how it's gonna change in the next
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: couple of years, and I don't think it's great. And
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: with the Jami Jones thing, it's not just Jami. You
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: have some other guys, guys who aren't good fielders, guys
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: who whatever, like you have more than one one dimensional
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: piece when you're a roster right now, and I don't
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: think that's good. I do think the Tigers should probably
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: be beyond that by now, or certainly after what happened
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: to the offense last year and what just happened to
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the offense in May, they should be figuring out how
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: to get beyond that next season. I don't know what
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: that looks like. I don't necessarily have the solutions myself,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: but it's something worth talking about, no doubt.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: You know a name that we didn't mention, and again
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it's not specific to the Jim Jones role but just
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: speaks volumes to other things.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And then we didn't talk about was Jace Young.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Like it's just like like like, this is a guy
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: who like has had major league at bat was like
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: one thirty is that as a career major league at.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Bats that sounds about right?
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and has yet to get a run in the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: major leagues. It feels like he yeah, uh, well I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: was gonna say, like, yeah, playing time, okay, yeah either way,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: But like this is somebody that I'm sure a lot
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: of people would like to think you could figure out
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a way to have some use for, but it just
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: hasn't happened, uh, for whatever reason. So that's we talk
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: about holes and no one banging down the door. Like
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a theory you would you would want a Jace Young
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: type prospect to be somebody who's banging down the door
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: in some regard, and it's just, you know, it's just
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: not happening for you know, for reasons that are a
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: parent and unapparent.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Jace Young is a reason I don't
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I can't easily look at Max Anderson or JS Waiversano
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: or Tyrone Loronzo and be like, oh you got those
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: guys on the farm. You're gonna be fine because what
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: two ish years ago, it's all you got Jace Young,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Colt Keith, and Jay Hen, you know, and that was
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: gonna be your future. And Jay Hen turned into a
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: right handed platoon bat who couldn't play in the field,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: and Jace Young never really became a good defender, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, the Tigers just don't seem to like
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: him that much. And now he's basically stuck in Triple A,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: still hasn't hit a home run in the big leagues.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: And even Colt Keith, he.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Was always the best of the three, is basically being
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: used as a platoon bat, a platoon dh or when
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: you put him in the field, like they seem reluctant
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: to put him in the field. He doesn't have a position.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: That's not great. That's that's not a great recipe. I
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: feel a little bad for Jace Young's, Like, I still
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: think he's a pretty good hitter. He's in like two
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: twenty seven down in Triple A, but is his ops
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: is better than Max Max Clark's right now, for whatever
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: that's worth. It's not to throw Max astray. It's just reality.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: So like I like I don't know. I think jayse Young,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: if the Tigers ever decided to move on from him,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: would get a good look in some other organization because
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: he because he hits left handed, that's a pretty big
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: skill set in itself. And if there's someone willing to
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: live with below, I don't know, is his defense that bad?
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Is it? I don't know.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: We haven't really got to see it's on it In
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the major leagues, his best position was second base, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: he's hardly played there at.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: All in the big League.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: So it's it's it's just kind of weird, like how
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: his trajectory has gone in this organization. I don't I'm
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: not even saying he like has to be up tomorrow
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: or something right now. Do they really need a lefty dot?
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Probably not, But it's it's weird. It seems like something
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: they just don't like him for whatever reason. And it's
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: not just because of the fielding, because look around you
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: got some other guys who can't catch the ball either.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those deals that like if if
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: if things were rolling cohesively throughout the organization, like Jayce
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Young would be in some sort of better spot either,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: just we don't have room for you in the majors
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: right now, but we'll give you a call or what,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: or we'd be constantly thinking about him in terms of
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: ways to maybe spark this roster or whatever.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: And I wrote that in the nailbag. I had just
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: scout from another organization, you know, text me recently like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: why is are some of these other guys up instead
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: of the Jays? He can at least put together a
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: competitive at that. Wasn't Colin Jason an All Star or
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: wasn't even Callin Jason everyday player, but it was like,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: there's a really good scout out there who likes Jase
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: young things even put together a competitive at that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: And I tend to agree, Yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it is a mystery that will
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: remain so all right, real quick. Neither one of us
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: like a broken down film on Justin Verlander's start in Toledo.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Toledo, but it seems like if you just
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: look at, you know, some Twitter clips and then the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: stat line, I need five innings, so he got the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: got the ups there, gave up four hits, zero runs,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: had three K's impossible to try to speculate about when
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: we will see Justin Verlander, but I think this has
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to feel a little bit. It has to feel a
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: little bit more real than this kind of slow plane
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: of information and updates and like what was really kind
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: of going on with his body. This at least feels like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: all right, it could be on the cusp of happening.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: In theory, this guy is actually pitching in a baseball game.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see what happens. What Verlander through Tuesday, So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: and theory is next start day would be Sunday. Tigers
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: have Jack Flaherty listed for Sunday. They're off Monday, so
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: you know, would they pull him to extra days of rest?
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Where is he gonna pitch again into in the minors?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: You're trying to get trek Scuble. I think a rehab
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: outing this weekend. I think there's some weather concerned Saturday,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: so it sounds like there's still a few moving parts.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Tigers haven't committed to anything yet. I would expect we'll
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: get some word on what's next for both Verlander and Schooble,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: probably Friday, if not Saturday. Seems like it's training in
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: the right direction, though, I mean, I don't know how
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: you recovered, but he looked decent and Offenseledo, the stuff
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: was okay.
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  Speaker 3: He seemed to be moving well in the mound.
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  Speaker 4: I think that is a good step in the right direction.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: And now we'll see, we'll see what this looks like.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: We'll see how soon Verlander and Schooble actually are back
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: in the major leagues. And I think the ticket sales
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: might just tick up a little bit.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Very true, all right, And then you know, to harken
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: back to something that Austin said on our last podcast.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: He talked about like when you bring guys back bat
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: guys come back from injury, everyone kind of gets uplifted
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit because they get to kind of be
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: more in their true roles or whatever or that. Just
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: wanted to give a couple of tangible examples of that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So uh Specialtorkalsen in his last five games, three of
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: them multi hit. That's not all with guys coming back,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: but it's certainly part of it. Matt Vierling, as I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: pull it up here, you know, he was able to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: string together some key hits against Tampa against Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 1: and even.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Went so Paris wentz Paris going, He's got.
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  Speaker 1: Six runs, by the way, I might just make that
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a thing as as he has more home runs than
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: some of these other guys we expect to hit hit
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: higher clips than him.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Went so Paris has put together a couple couple nice games.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, those are like examples of what could
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: be and if there's if there's something.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: To hope for give them.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: The roller coaster of baseball of this season is that like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: if everything really went wrong in that month of May
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: plus ish, maybe there's there's a world where moving forward
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: things align a lot better and go together, you know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: in the same direction positively, because just as likely as
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: that bs we had, the watch is the other side
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of it. And maybe maybe this week was a little
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: bit of glimpse and then yat Seattle come in into town.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's a playoff free match. That's a hot team.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: That's also a team that's been through it as well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you know, not as much as the Tigers were, but
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: they've been through it. So pretty fascinating weekend over our
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: American party.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: For whatever reason, people are making a big deal of
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: the Buster only report that says the Tigers are telling
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: teams they are not yet selling, which I think I
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: mean no disrespective, Buster are good for him for like
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: someone telling them that, but like that shouldn't to me,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: that's not that should be obvious. As bad as things were,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: the Tigers have two months to get their stuff together,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: at least like a month and some change before they
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: have to decide on a direction, before they have to
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: really face the reality of selling stuff off. If they
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: have a they could be right back in this. In
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the American League, I think the A's are right now
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: leaving the third wildcard spot and they're under five hundred.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Tigers have a long way to go. Whatever happens from
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: here should not excuse what we just watched. In me,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: all the criticism, I think it was well deserved. This
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: is a long season. They play one hundred and sixty
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: two for a reason. The Tigers should not be selling yet.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: We got some time before we really have to lock
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: in on the deadline or whatever else.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this, you know, I had planned
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: on one of the one of the episodes this week
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to kind of make it a Schooble trade scenario episode.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: But Tigers are winning. There's a lot of time, you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to get to that, let's see. And so that's what
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: we're going to continue to do. Until the time comes
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: that either it is a thing or it is not
• 35:50
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• 35:54
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