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SUMMER GRAYS - Feeding a Dream on Buttered Spaghetti · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very
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  Speaker 1: special guests entrepreneur, founder CEO of Mercy Angels Hospice, and
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  Speaker 1: my butler Al is in the building. And you are
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  Speaker 1: also on Indie Bosses, Yes Bosses reality show, Candy Bosses
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  Speaker 1: reality show.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna get in all the tea.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into all the tea, we got
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  Speaker 1: to get into all the food. Special shout out. This
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  Speaker 1: is my breakfast for today. So what are you gonna
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  Speaker 1: have me eating today?
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  Speaker 2: We're making my struggle milk, which is spaghetti. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do some butter and parmesan cheese.
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  Speaker 1: Butter parmesan cheese, and for the seasoning is just salt.
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  Speaker 2: Regular salt and pepper.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. All right, get in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 1: get it cooking. Let's get into it, y'all. So you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a little handful of spaghetti. Always break my
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  Speaker 1: spaghetti up because it's the easier.
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  Speaker 2: You just do it in half. Right, Uh huh, I
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  Speaker 2: was breaking new half. She already got the water boiling, guys,
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  Speaker 2: so you just simply put it in. Oh, let's get
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  Speaker 2: a little spoon here.
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  Speaker 1: Do you There's a wooden one right there. I only
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  Speaker 1: put one because.
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  Speaker 2: That's all we need. Since kind of stirred around a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, let's say said she said you was really
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  Speaker 2: hungry and a little bit more ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so take me back to what was going on
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  Speaker 1: during the Is this parmesan butters spaghetti? Is that what
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  Speaker 1: it's called? Ye, you're gonna give it a fresh name.
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  Speaker 2: I never gave it a freshkin name. My kids just new. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is what we going half in dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Did they ever roll their eyes or did you do
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  Speaker 1: this when they were little and they loved butter noodles?
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  Speaker 2: I did it when it was little, all the way
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  Speaker 2: up to they was teenagers. They got sick of it.
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  Speaker 2: The oldest one was a teenager. Yes, they were so
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  Speaker 2: sick of it and sick of me for real. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because we had struggle meals growing up. I think we've
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  Speaker 2: all adam.
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  Speaker 1: This was just like to go to It was quick,
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  Speaker 1: it was cheap, and they liked it. So this is
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  Speaker 1: after you started your whole your own family.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I started having children really young. I started really early.
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  Speaker 2: I was like sixteen. Had the first one had the
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  Speaker 2: second one when I was almost eighteen and having two
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  Speaker 2: kids that young, Did your mom beat you up? No,
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  Speaker 2: my mother did not beat me up. But however my
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  Speaker 2: mother made me go get married.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, because the really said I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 1: the true punishment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what she did, honey, my mama. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's like, you want to be grown, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 2: and get you married.
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  Speaker 1: Off that why you ended up having a second too,
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  Speaker 1: she says, you up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she said no, the second one was already on
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  Speaker 2: the way, and they was like, okay, so y'all need
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  Speaker 2: to get married. Ill love each other that much, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we had to get married. I was raised, I
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  Speaker 2: was a witness. My parents wanted to make it right
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  Speaker 2: now as a lord. So it was like a shotgun
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  Speaker 2: weddy to this man that was much older than myself.
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  Speaker 2: How much older? Oh my god, I's say. I met
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  Speaker 2: him when I was twelve and he was twenty. So
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  Speaker 2: when it was at like eight years older and nobody
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  Speaker 2: got they butt whooped. No, No, not at all. My
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  Speaker 2: parents when I got pregnant with us shout out to
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  Speaker 2: where are you from again? Indiana? Back then it was legal,
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  Speaker 2: but by the time I got pregnant was legal. My
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  Speaker 2: parents did call the police and they were like, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: and in Indiana you can give consent at fourteen, so
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  Speaker 2: it was like totally legal. Wow. Yeah, So got married
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  Speaker 2: to him, and which, of course it didn't last. I
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  Speaker 2: found out he was crazy as hell. That's why he
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  Speaker 2: had to date a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: I bet how did your parents get him to get
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  Speaker 1: get married too? Because you had to get both parties
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  Speaker 1: on board, right, it.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't really hard to convince him. Think about it. He
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  Speaker 2: has a seventeen year old girl he could marry and
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  Speaker 2: somewhat manipulate. Yeah, so he was crazy. You know the facts? Okay? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Or is this looking backs? Looking back? At the time,
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.
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  Speaker 2: I never knew how crazy this fool. Was You happy
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  Speaker 2: when you was getting marriage? Yeah? I thought I found
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  Speaker 2: my prince charming. You couldn't tell me nothing about this one.
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  Speaker 2: So it lasted, you said, a couple of months? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not even that line. My parents went up paying for
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  Speaker 2: the wedding and I had moved back home because this
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  Speaker 2: fool was crazy, like really.
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  Speaker 1: Nuts really, So then you ended up being a single mom.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I was a single mom and as a teenager. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: as a teenager you get to finish school. Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: did finish school during summer school, so I did finish
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  Speaker 2: and then after that. It's one of those things. I
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  Speaker 2: was still a wild child. Just because I had kids,
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  Speaker 2: don't mean I'll settled down then. Yeah, of course, my parents,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta move out if you're not gonna do x
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  Speaker 2: Y's being a teenager smart ass, of course, I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: of course I'm gone with two babies. I said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go find me apartment with that god back then
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  Speaker 2: Indiana apartments with number five hundred dollars for two bedsroom back.
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  Speaker 1: But still, I'm sure to make that money. What were
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  Speaker 1: you doing to make the money?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of everything stripping you were in there.
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  Speaker 2: I was, hey, I was stripping, probably selling it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, So this is this is unique because you'd
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  Speaker 1: come It sounds from a more religious family.
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  Speaker 2: Religious two parent household.
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  Speaker 1: Who did not whoop you Because I had another guess
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  Speaker 1: on the show who had a baby when she was
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  Speaker 1: like fourteen, I said, I know you into the witness protection.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, girl, I ran, I said, you better had.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I ain't say I didn't whoop me, because
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  Speaker 2: you know that was when this is back then believed
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  Speaker 2: the beating the kids. Okay, I was just a hard
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  Speaker 2: headed one. I was just very headstrong. Okay. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what time I stuck out the window when I was twelve,
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell my mama did to me. My mother
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  Speaker 2: had woke up and realized I wasn't in the house.
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  Speaker 2: I was run in the corner with this boy. My
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  Speaker 2: mama snatched me when I was trying to stick back
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  Speaker 2: in that house. She snatched me so hard through that
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  Speaker 2: window that window shattered. And then my mother grabbed me
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  Speaker 2: by my throat, literally, took a switch with the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: marched me around in this dude's house and beat the
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  Speaker 2: hell out of me in front of his front yard.
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  Speaker 2: Through story. That's I call that one the beating of
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  Speaker 2: my life. And this is before a kid one or two,
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  Speaker 2: this four kid one or two.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, I hope Jesus please don't let the ride get
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  Speaker 1: me a rough mo money like that. Okay, So fast forward,
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  Speaker 1: your a single mom, li being on your own an apartment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: at this point, it seems like you have the hustler
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  Speaker 1: spirit doing whatever shaken, doing what you gotta do too.
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  Speaker 2: So I worked at the bank, and then on weekends
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  Speaker 2: I worked at a strip cut downtown Indianapolis. And then
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  Speaker 2: and I saved my money though I was one of
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  Speaker 2: them smart holes. Saved my money. I wouldn't now just
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  Speaker 2: spending to be spending. So yeah, I saved my money.
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  Speaker 2: And then I started turning myself legal in other words,
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  Speaker 2: and start trying to get better jobs. I did actually
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  Speaker 2: work two jobs at one point because I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to send my kids to private school, the two older ones.
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  Speaker 1: But you say legal, is it stripping legal? No, it is,
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  Speaker 1: but sheps we do other ship. I was just trying
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  Speaker 1: to get out of that.
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  Speaker 2: I respect extra clarity. Yeah, So I so from there
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  Speaker 2: I started. I was a flight attendant many years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I have free flights so you and the kids
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  Speaker 2: could travel. Yeah. Me. And because they never did they
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  Speaker 2: say my grandma girl had hit the road. Your grandmother,
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  Speaker 2: the mom that whooped you. No, No, my father's mother.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother was really like my rock because if nothing
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  Speaker 2: else I could always go to grandma. And Grandma made
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  Speaker 2: it okay that Grandma.
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  Speaker 1: I'm over here trying to do the timeline. The girl,
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  Speaker 1: you don't miss it up. Okay, So she was looking
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  Speaker 1: out for you, watching the kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, she watched the kids. Yeah, my grandma. She was
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  Speaker 2: part of my my posse. Yeah. Yeah, she was my village.
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  Speaker 2: She was your village. She really helped me a lot.
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  Speaker 2: She actually raised all thoring my kids for me because
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  Speaker 2: I was wild child. Oh yes, sirs. Yeah, I had
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  Speaker 2: a third one. When I was twenty three, I gave
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  Speaker 2: birth to my third daughter, and I was still wowed
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  Speaker 2: honestly that when went home from the hospital with my grandma.
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  Speaker 2: I was back out in the club on Tuesday. I
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  Speaker 2: had her on I think a Sunday. I was in
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  Speaker 2: the club Tuesday partying. Obviously not a C section. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was sea sections.
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  Speaker 1: Me just say, I'm going to give a snap for
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  Speaker 1: what I didn't mention in the intros is that you've
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  Speaker 1: run a multi million dollar company. I do, which is
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  Speaker 1: just hearing just the beginning of your story.
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  Speaker 2: Is whoa with that? Let me add this. I always
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  Speaker 2: had determination because being in high school, especially when I
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  Speaker 2: got pregnant with the second one, I had a guidance
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  Speaker 2: counselor tell me you're never going to be nothing. You
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  Speaker 2: should just go ahead and quit school. You didn't ruined
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  Speaker 2: your life, You're running these poor children's life. I was
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  Speaker 2: told I just wouldn't be nothing, and I always kept
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  Speaker 2: that in the back of my head that this person
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  Speaker 2: thinks I'm never going to be anything. So I always
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  Speaker 2: had the determination to prove otherwise that I will be something.
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  Speaker 2: But it was just at the time busy taking care
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  Speaker 2: of kids, trying to see them through private school, trying
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  Speaker 2: to get myself put them through private I was determined
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  Speaker 2: they was not gonna be wild like my ass. I
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  Speaker 2: sent them to a religious school because I was like,
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  Speaker 2: hold on, I can't have y'all being like mommy when
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  Speaker 2: you get y'all from Jesus early. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Now, is there any have you ever done the digging
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  Speaker 1: of if there was like a lineage wild card, like
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was like a passed down Jean or I ain't.
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  Speaker 2: Never what that are now, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it was a pastile Jean.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have siblings I do, or any of them
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  Speaker 1: like you?
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  Speaker 2: No. My brother was the perfect child that he was
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  Speaker 2: very He always did what my parents said do. He
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  Speaker 2: just took care of his own. He was a straight
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  Speaker 2: a student, never gave my parents back talk. My sister. Now,
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  Speaker 2: my sister was a little wild, but she was sneaky.
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  Speaker 2: I did my stuff out in the open. Not that
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  Speaker 2: one you like to get caught out, That one would
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  Speaker 2: lie do everything else, the boy getting in trouble, but
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  Speaker 2: I was. She was like, Mama, gonna beat you. What
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  Speaker 2: could you just And I'm like, I'd rather tell the truth,
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  Speaker 2: go out and take the keep on going. Oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 1: So at what point after the third baby, I'm guessing,
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  Speaker 1: is this how do you can you inch me closer
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  Speaker 1: to mercy angels?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? So is that the first thing? No? Actually it's
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  Speaker 2: not okay. So what happened after? Okay? Yes, after I
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  Speaker 2: finished being a flight attendant. It was one of those
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  Speaker 2: things where I was tired of flying. I wanted something
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  Speaker 2: where I could be at home work, and my kids
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  Speaker 2: was getting older. I was what, thirty two gree become
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  Speaker 2: a grandmother because my oldest starter was going to have
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  Speaker 2: a baby and thirty two, yeah, at thirty two, I
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  Speaker 2: was becoming grandma. So I said, let me go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and find I can do it home. Start quit flying.
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  Speaker 2: And plus that oldest one had got a little wild
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  Speaker 2: out there for my grandma so I went ahead and
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  Speaker 2: she served you back. She did got me good. Let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you this, she did exactly what I did.
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  Speaker 2: She hit it. She hid her pregnancy just like I did.
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  Speaker 2: She hit it. Yeah, she hit it till she was
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  Speaker 2: like seven months by. I got my I got I
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  Speaker 2: had her beat. I beat I hit my pregnancy with Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: Let's feel like this by time my parents found out
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  Speaker 2: I had her two weeks later. Okay, So let's move along.
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  Speaker 1: So you but you but I like that you're saying that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it feels like you showed up for your
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  Speaker 1: daughter the way your grandma showed up free.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. So you got a different job, Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: ended up getting a different job. So I went into sales.
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  Speaker 2: You know how you go to Walmart, you go to
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  Speaker 2: gas station and you see the little terminals which are
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  Speaker 2: so I started selling those, the card terminals, the card terminals. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I actually got like wild. We successful with it,
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  Speaker 2: and it was like out of the blue. It was
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  Speaker 2: so funny because my first month I made six figures
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, I thought it was a bank mistake,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, So we called the company,
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  Speaker 2: me and the bank because I'm thinking, shit, I'm about
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  Speaker 2: to go to jail. So I called the company and
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  Speaker 2: they were like, oh, no, that's your commission checks. I
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  Speaker 2: signed up over one hundred accounts my first month just
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  Speaker 2: talking to people, being out and about laughing talking to people, okay,
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  Speaker 2: And so when I made that kind of money, I said, ooh,
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  Speaker 2: because I couldn't grow no more in Indianapolis. If I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be honest, I just could not do it no more.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, you know what, one night, in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the night, I said, I'm gonna move to California.
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  Speaker 2: It was a snowstorm going on February. Where kid is it? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: By that time, the oldest swim she already had her
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  Speaker 2: own apartment and heard her boyfriend was living together. She
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  Speaker 2: had just had another baby, and the middle one she
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  Speaker 2: had already moved out. And the youngest wim she was
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  Speaker 2: a wild child too, so she was the little my
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  Speaker 2: oldest starterngman.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So you could actually just say I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Out, And that's exactly what I did. I didn't tell
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  Speaker 2: nobody I was moving. I just got my car in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of an ice storm and took off driving.
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  Speaker 2: So I ended up.
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  Speaker 1: Driving are you still keeping the terminal job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what I do. I said, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: expand my business. So I got let's see, I got
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  Speaker 2: out here, signed a couple of accounts up, and I
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  Speaker 2: was also doing business loans for different people, okay. And
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  Speaker 2: so I met this broker and she was like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this guy want to sell his home health. Let me
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  Speaker 2: introduce you to He wants to what his home health
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  Speaker 2: out here? Okay, and what does that mean? He was
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  Speaker 2: selling a home health business. So if you, let's say,
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  Speaker 2: you break your leg, you need a nurse to come in.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what it was. At first. I told him no,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't interested in purchasing it, but I'll see if
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  Speaker 2: I can find someone to purchase it. And I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: find no one. So I'm like, I'm sorry, I can't find
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  Speaker 2: the one. He's like, won't you buy it? I was
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  Speaker 2: like what, Because I'm used to being wild and free,
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  Speaker 2: just myself, and so when he said it, I said,
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  Speaker 2: let me think about it. So after two months of
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  Speaker 2: thinking about it, and at the time, they had the
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  Speaker 2: biggest contract in southern California, and so I was like,
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  Speaker 2: send me the financials. So he sent me the financials over.
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  Speaker 2: I had my attorney review it and they actually said
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  Speaker 2: it was a good deal to buy. So I went
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  Speaker 2: ahead and purchased it. How was he selling it? He
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do something else. He was actually going into
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  Speaker 2: the cannabis business. Okay, so that's what he wanted to do.
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  Speaker 2: So I went ahead and purchased it. And then from
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  Speaker 2: there we had the biggest contract in southern California with
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  Speaker 2: this medical group, and so someone came to me said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I know someone who wants to purchase a hospice was
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  Speaker 2: to sell a hospice. And at first the thing I said,
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  Speaker 2: now let me get used to what I'm doing now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but then I thought about it. A month later, they
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  Speaker 2: came back, Hey, we just got a credit dated. Do
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  Speaker 2: you want to buy it? And so I was like,
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  Speaker 2: why not?
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  Speaker 1: So idly successful businesses finding you, you know what, people
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  Speaker 1: talking network nice and so I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I will buy it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I ended up buying that hospice. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing my thing out here, but I'm still I said, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do something in Indianapolis. I want to
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  Speaker 2: open a hospice in Indy. But then I ended up
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to a girlfriend who lived in India
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  Speaker 2: at a time, and she say, hey, doctors want to
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  Speaker 2: buy her medical practice? And I'm like, she does, and
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  Speaker 2: so I set up a meeting with that doctor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious, before you get to that part, what
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  Speaker 1: is your day life looking like? Running these hospices in
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  Speaker 1: these very busy Was it hard to adapt?
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  Speaker 2: Not really, because you got real lested on. I had
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  Speaker 2: staff already come with the business. Okay, so that part
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  Speaker 2: wasn't hard. But I still needed to learn the regulation.
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  Speaker 2: This looks delicious, Oh thank you. I still had to
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  Speaker 2: learn the regulations. I still had to learn no meat, guys.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you know she was struggling for real, right, yeah,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: no meat. So yeah, so I had to learn the
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: regulations and stuff myself. But you were very young? Was this?
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Was there any issues even running a company? Looking young? Now,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say back then, my biggest challenge was with
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: that certain medical group that we had the contract with.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: The doctor was very disrespectful towards me because we did.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: He was nice at first till we did a zoom.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: He was like, turn your camera on. I did not
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: want to turn my camera on with this man. I
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: turned my camera on, and I feel like, once he's
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: seen I was a black woman, that's when I held
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: broke loose. Oh he's like a white Jewish doctor, and
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: yeah he after that point he started like really going
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: in on me. And finally I was like, you know what,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I don't have to put up with a disrespect. So
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, I want to end the contract with
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: you guys, which for me, I think it was a
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: smart decision because the disrespect I wouldn't gona keep putting
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: up with. But how much money were you gonna lose
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: for that disrespect? I'm just scurious, Okay, to be honest
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: with you, that year we had done like close to
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: six million dollars. But to me, my respect is priceless.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: It gotta be prices. It is. Listen, my wut what
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: is it? Or the ten ninety ninety sent me was like,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I think it was like our little six million. I
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: know what six million is? Point something? This way it was,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I just my respect is everything.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: They say usually once someone experiences success, they are more
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: fearful of taking risks.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: It sounds like you're the polar opposite. You're like six million, Bye,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I can do it again. That's how I feel I
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: have so many different ideas. So being in Indianapolis, I
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: decided to start a hospice because we're needed within our community.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Representation is everything, especially within the medical community. My mom,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: she passed away due to a medical error.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Started to get very close to home for yes, exactly,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: we gotta try this before Okay, let's.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Go try it. How do you feel? Do you feel
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: is it supposed to be this gooey? I was working
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: through his eat it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's really goody sticky. I know y'all
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: want to try to do you.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: No, put a little We'll put a little more buttery
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: in it. Maybe less sticky, a little need a little
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: bit of meat. You gel re tired of this dish,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: but it's really good.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Trying not to choin the camera and take one more bite, guys,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I mean in the mic, that's really good.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because I'm hungry, though, I
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: would definitely say try someone you're not hungry and let
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: me know.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: How long did you have to think about the turning
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: down the deal because of the disrespect.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: It wasn't an overnight decision. It was just when you
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: take government funds, what medicare Medica gets to be very
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: careful with that type of stuff. And once the doctor
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: was talking to me any kind of way, his team
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: was started disrespecting my team. I was like, it's not
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: worth it no more because I don't know what this
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: could lead to. All money's not good money. Okay, that's
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: one of the first things I wanted to do business. Sometimes
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: it's better to walk away.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: And government contracts, aren't they a little bit more rigorous?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: It looks like a good dollar sticker in front, but
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: is the like fine print usually terrible?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Exactly? It was. I mean, we I have my attorney
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: re review their contract, and even he suggested it. He
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't see this getting any better. You
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: do have the right to terminate the contract. So that's
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the decision that was made.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Nice, So you decide to take your business to a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: whole nother state. Yes, how long and how hard was
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: that process?
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: You know? Okay? So once I met that doctor in Indianapolis,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: had decided to purchase her practice and it's the primary
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: care practice. And then I was like, you know what,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I need something fun, so fun. I need something funded
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: because working with sick people all the time. So I said,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a mad spy. Okay, at the same
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: time as I'm working with the hospital hospital. It's a
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: lot of steps to get that going. We had the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: office space, we're waiting to get it, We're waiting to
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: get our state licensing. So did you know what, I'm
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and do something. So I end up
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: opening a med spot and that was a fun project.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: We were able to get it and we did everything
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: from the ground up for the med spot. Wow. So
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: in that process we got that finished. Then I was like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: let's focus on this hospice. So with the hospice, we
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: were able to get our state license, we were able
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: to get accredited, and we are now open. So taking Pati, did.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: You ever go back to school and say, hey, remember
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: when you said.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: You know what? I did not, And I often thought
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: about going back down there and saying that that teacher
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: is even still alive. It was an older teacher, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: maybe they thought that because from the era they came from,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: but I definitely thought about it. But I'm gonna say
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: this much. Some of the people I went to high
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: school with, I do chuckle, including some family members who
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: counted me out because I do have a certain family
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: member that like to get smart every now and get
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: root digs and it's okay, lady, I make more than
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you make in a year in one month. And I
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: try not to be cocky like that, but it's you.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, if you if they throwing insults or undercuts, Oh.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I've said I'm this girl. Come on now you brag
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: about Oh this cousin she got her degree, she got married,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: she did X Y Z okay, and she's a glorified babysitter.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Girl goes to down and I'm not knocking that job. Yeah,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just singing. What's not throw that of daggers at
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Were there people in the family that were extremely motivated
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: by your example.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say not really a lot of my cousins
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: they were, oh, I'm in college, I'm doing this, I'm
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: doing that. But once again, girl, you a teacher, you're
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: only making thirty thousand a year. Goes to down.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But they never said, hey, I'm doing this because of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Because sometimes people can choose different lanes but be like
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: because and they could be like, man, you getting out
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the area, You getting out the hood made me want
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: believe in myself that I could get out the hood
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: or you being a young mom, because I get it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Before I was mom, I judged all moms, especially single moms.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: But now I'm like, oh.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: No, you don't judge those people.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying you're you're a good example of Hey,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you could be a teen mom.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: You could be a mom that likes to.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Have fun, like you were the relatable person that, like I'm.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Saying, my children realize that because like my oldest starter,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's graduates and may to be a nurse practitioner.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: She's started off as a CNA and went worked all
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the way up and now she's telling me, Mom, I
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go to med school, which is she
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: built her house. My oldest daughter, she's doing every same
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: thing with the middle one. The middle is a little
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: different one, but still she went to school. My youngest starter,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: she's a social worker. So all my kids are college educated.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: They all feel a while, but they all still reeled
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: it back in and are productive citizens in society. Do
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: they reference your work ethic and all that. They especially
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the oldest one, they don't make excuses. Okay, they get
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: it done. And that's what I've always told them was
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: never make excuses. I expect for you to be successful.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I don't care what your situation happened. You still have
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to take care of yourself. You still take care of
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: your children, and they all do a beautiful job at that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Now when it comes to the baby daddy, which one,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: because they both a lump of nothing's.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, lump of nothing's Like, how does that do they ever?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: One? Do they look at you like because you are
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the provider, Like, that's just your responsibility?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: One? And how does that affect you?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: It never affected me. The first one. I was just
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: trying to run from him. He was a stocker. The
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: first ex husband. Yeah, yeah, it's so funny when I say, hey,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: he was a stocker. Some was his wife literally stalkers.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I never understood that mentality from a female. You listen
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: whatever this man tell you, then you go stick, you
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: go stock the ex wife. No, I never No. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: just took care of my kids and just love.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Forward back to the inspiring of others journey.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Are you doing speaking engagements or any of that. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: have done some in the past, and I'll talk about
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: mainly just being an entrepreneur. Ups and downs of being
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: an entrepreneur. We all know it's not all roses be
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: an entrepreneur. No, it's yeah, it's definitely stress because you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: can't let yourself feel fail because this is your livelihood.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So you have to stay motivated. You have to at
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: times motivate your staff even when you know you have problems.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: So let's be real, none of this is easy. If
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I mess up my staff, don't You have to really
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: stay up at night and really plan everything out far
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: as the company, far as the quarters. What are we
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: going to spend money on, what are we not going
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to spend money or on what are we going to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: cut back? So that type of.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Thing, and then how do you deal with cash flow issues?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Because this is a topic that I feel like not
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: enough people are talking about.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: So do you face them? I feel like all companies,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: all companies face it. Let's be honest. Like when it
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: comes to my medical practice, I'm always holding my staff,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: especially my my office managers. Look this insurance, this administration,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: they have cut back. Oh, we got to do this
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: in return if we're going to stay out there. My
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: medical practice is in the inner city. We're needed. But
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: it's also the fact is that we're ninety percent of
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: our patients are Medicare and Medicaid, So when they cut
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: back those services, these people still need to be seen.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So it's not to me. It's not an option for
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: me to shut my doors. But we have to be
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: smart on how we spend money and how we could
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: try to still make money.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So what are the one of the hardest challenges you
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: faced owning this type of business.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say you know what I'm gonna say, Staffy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: We all have those problems, especially being in a medical field.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: With COVID. These nurses out here at one point they
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: could travel and make one hundred thousand a month. At
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: some point in some assignment one hundred thousand a month.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You had some of those you had they was cleaning up.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So it's hard when you're a home health or even
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a medical practice to try to keep like practitioners in
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Why go work for me When I might pay you
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand or ninety thousand, you can go up
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: here and make three or five hundred thousand. So I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: would say that's one of the biggest challenges in the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: medical industry.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in cal I don't
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: want to say a lot of people, but I've ran
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: into a lot of people in real estate, they'll say, oh, man,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: if you could open like senior housing or cause in California,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and I think senior housing you can charge like three
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: thousands of bedrooms. You can in this market way real
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: estate is that may be the only way you could
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: pay a mortgage. But from your background, do you think
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that's an easy fat or is there a lot of hoop.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Hoops here in California? Honey, it's a lot because it's
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of regulations here, a lot of regulatory pieces.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Can it be done, yes? But is it challenging? Also? Yes?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Would you ever consider senior housing or you like the hospice?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I am more okay into the hospice arena. Now, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: did think about opening like maybe more of a senior
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: daycare situation. Need kids like unfortunately today I'm the kids
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: of the baby boomer generation where they need the care.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Like we all still work so we can't sit at
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: home with our parents, So a daycare situation I've definitely
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: thought about adding. I never thought of that. Yeah, just
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: to where they come into the center at like seven
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: to three or four, so they do have to go
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: home alone. It's not long an hour or two. The
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: next family members there to take care of them.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Now, I had a grandma that recently passed from through hospice.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: My grandfather went through hospice. This is the immature question
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of dealing with the bodies and all that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Is that weird or do you feel some type of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: way about that part? Now? No? Actually, okay. So my
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: staff would be the ones that normally go and deal
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: with the family. Sometimes I do show up after the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: patient has passed to offer support, but no, it's it's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the circle of life, you know what I mean. Now,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to I'll be a liar. You fellas
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: to sit here and say I never cried when one
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: of my patients passed. Of course I have, because you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: you get close to these people and you get to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: know the family. So yeah, it does hurt when they
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: pass away.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: But being in this industry, it gives you a different perspective.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: On life whole. It does. It does, so cy my
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: view on death once again, it's a circle of life.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: The sun goes up, the sun goes down, so we
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: all have a time and when it's up, you know
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I think life is short, life is precious.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I think when death comes around I think a person
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: should be at peace. I think they should have comfort. Yeah,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that sounds really good.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Like I was going to say, what do you tell
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: family members that are dealing in that hospital space, because
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: that hospital space is very difficult because you know what's coming.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: When you love a loved one, you're like, hell no,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit longer, but you know the position that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: they're in. But I think what you just said is
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: kind of beautiful. You want the person to be at peace.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know our job is keep them comfortable
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and still offer support to the family. I rely heavily
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: on our chaplain and our social worker. Do you currently
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: have spaces in both California or just no? I have
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: California in Indianapolis, Yestate. Okay, so you have both? Yes?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Where does my butler out come along? Okay? During that
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: whole COVID slash unrest, civil want rest with the police killing,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, innocent citizens. I used to be like
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: everybody else. I would get on some of those other
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: apps and really mouth off on them that I believe
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: that with you. I was vicious on there. I got
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: tired of getting put in face and that other app's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: jail or either getting my account suspended because I didn't
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: told somebody off and sasage. And this is actually back then,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I said I'm gonna create my own app or I
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: could say what I want to say where I ain't censored. Now,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: let me explain this app. Y'all can say what y'all
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: want to on there, but y'all can't threaten people. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you can. It's still boundaries. Yeah, but just because you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: don't like a comment or I don't like a comment
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: that you say to someone, No, I am not going
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to put you in jail. I'm not going to deactivate
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: your account because those other apps they censor us, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think we deserve to be censored, especially I've noticed.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this that when it comes to
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: us and we give our opinions on other things, on
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: some of their cultural things, the first thing they want
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to do is throw us in jail. They want to
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: deactivate our accounts. And I've heard this from account less people.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: So I just want to take the censorship away on
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: both sides. I feel let's make it a fair fight.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So there's no algorithms or anything. No, we don't have algorithithms.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: How hard was that jump?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: To go from this service based industry to tech because
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: tech is its own nightmare.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: You're right about that. So I had to do a
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: lot of research. I actually had to find developers that
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: were on board to do what I wanted them to do.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: So during my research, I found some developers just said, no,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: it won't work. I don't want to take your money again.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, we won't it work. We have all
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: these different apps, Why come mine won't work? And they
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, enough people, you it's a waste of time.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I kept hearing. So finally I kept on.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I'm determined, I said, now, because I would talk to
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: some people. I did my research, Hey, would you get
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: on an app if you were not censored and if
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you let's say this app allowed you to do advertisements for
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: a dollar a week and five dollars a month verified
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: check marks. Would you do that? Because we all know
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: what the other people charge. Absolutely who's doing that? That's
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: all I ever heard. So I found some developers, told
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: them what I wanted, what my ideas was, told them
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: other things that I'm going to be adding in that
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: we're still working. We're gonna still be doing upgrades with
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: this app. And they've been on board with me.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, And are you ever at any point feeling overwhelmed
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and just juggling all three businesses? Of course, because I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: know your title CEO versus like investor or just owner.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: So that means you are putting out fires left and right.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I'm constantly putting I stay busy, so I am constantly
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: putting out fires. I'm constantly at the same time, Hey,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I gotta see how we gonna make money. Hey, how
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: are we gonna market? How are we gonna do this
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and that? Yeah, I stay up all hours of the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: night talking, doing whatever I have to do doing. Hell,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I do my own building at my ractice. Yeah, so
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I'm constantly I'm hands on with everything. That's great. Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Do you do collections? Oh no, I make the staff
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: do the collection. People getting too mad at me? Yeah,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: because I Yeah.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So when it comes to scaling a business, at this point,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you went from California to Indianapolis. You finally got it
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: right Indianapolis. That's still technically a scale, right or is
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that considered like a lateral move.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I would say a lateral move. In a lot of ways,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis is easier to do business because Indiana is at
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: will State where you know here in California, I got
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: them rights out here, so it's just easier to do
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: business in Indiana.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, Okay, what where did Indie Bosses come along
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: into the place?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: It's funny. Okay. So a year ago, I was scrolling
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: on that other app and you're.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Not even saying it. Don't say, don't give no credit,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: not at all, my butler. Al guys, that's right, go
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: download it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: So I was scrolling on that other app and I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: seen Coach Trina do a casting call for Indie Bosses,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and I thought, I'm gonna go just to see what
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: this is about. And so I ended up showing up.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: And it was funny because when I got there, it
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: was like someone of my I'm gon say, it was
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: maybe seven or eight people in front of me. I
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: was like, man, I guess I have this. I'm about
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to go, but then someone told me, now, I'll just
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: sit down, wait, let's see. So it was so funny.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: When I went back, I had never met her before,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and I didn't realize I had actually known her from
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the past. Asked what at the time, I remember, Coach Trina. Yes,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Coach Trina. She does. She teaches people how to do
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: home care in the surrounding states. So I go in
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, what do you do? So I
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: introduced myself. I tell them what I do, and then
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: we all got to laughing and joke, and of course
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I tell him about the five X husbands. The whole
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: room with robbed it, and I told them I was like, hell,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: it was the It was them. They was a fault,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: not me. Hell, I was the perfect one.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, you'll picker maybe all things at
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: some point to believe.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Your picker, yeah, I have to agree. It may not
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: be you, but your picker. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: So I had the whole room cracking up. And it
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: was funny because the next day Trina called me. She says, oh, yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: we want to have you on as a cast member.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I said awesome. And after that we had the conversation
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: of me going on to be a co executive producer
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: and so then that's my other title is I am
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: co executive producer of Indie Boss's reality show. Wow.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's a big jump from cast to exactly you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: know how to negotiate?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Of course, I need to write me a book talk
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: about the art and negotiations. I can't you say title?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Why is that? Is that already? Yeah? You know who
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: wrote that? No? I don't. Okay, were gonna talk about
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: them on here? Oh? Okay, I like, how you mean
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: she ain't promoting nobody? She said no? All right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: What are some tips that you could give to other
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: entrepreneurs trying to get in the game of home care
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: or not?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: What do you call what do you killed nursing? Skilled nursing? Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I do skilled nursing. That is what I do. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: would say, do your research. That's the first step. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: find out whether your state regulations are And then and
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: once you do your research, hire a consultant and a
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: great attorney because they will help you steer past a
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: lot of the red tape. They will help you, they
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: will help you get set up. But definitely do your research.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Don't do it just because I hear or heard this
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: makes a lot of money. You're in itto it for
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the wrong reason. You have to be compassionate, you have
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to love people. If you into it for money, go
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: get a sales job. That's not the one for you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Out of all three businesses, out of all three businesses,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Which is your favorite?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I have a passion for people, so I'm definitely gonna
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: say hospice is really Yes.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: When I was reading hospice on the bio, I was.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Like, hospice, it's so funny because either people love hospice
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: or they hate hospice. And I really love working with
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the families. You know, you really get close to those people,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: You really get to know them, and even when their
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: loved one is gone, we still keep touch with them
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: so they know that they can call me at any time,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: whether it's to pray, cry, or whatever it needs. They
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: do not have that type of love in California because
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: maybe out and that's it, that's it. I know my
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Gram's like she feeling one. Yeah, you broke her hip or.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Whatever, and you can't really California. I'm sure there's protections,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: but like the level of service, I don't think is
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: all the way there, not the way you're describing the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: level of service.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here is a different it's a different beast, but
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: in Indiana we still have that southern Ruto so's it
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: is a lot different. The people are a lot different
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: than the families are.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Are you ever afraid of going back to parmesan and
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: butter dish.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You know what, I remember actually last time I made that,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not to be honest. My thing is this, I've
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: done it, and I will continue to do it. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: will continue. It's all about what your self determination is
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: if you just like when I moved to California without
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: a plinion, it was an impulsive decision. It's how much
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you believe in your ability. And I knew that I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: wasn't gonna come out here and be homeless. I just
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: loaded on my car and started driving. So that was
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: a very high risk. It was so much money did
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: you have when you move? Oh, I have more than
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: enough to come back and do everything else. Yeah, I
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: was fine, trust me, I was totally fine. And lay boy,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you'd be sleeping on floors, I know my version year.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I was definitely and all that she said. I trucked
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: it like in the middle of the night, all the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: way to the Hilton. I did pretty much. I'm not
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: gonna actually it with Santa Ana's somewhere even more. Yeah,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I think I was staying near Disneyland my first night
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: once I got in California. You know, she had the
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: nice ride. Yeah, man, I just actually I just drove
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: around different parts of LA and Orange County. I found
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: out where I wanted to call home. Okay, I like that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Was there ever a point in all of this that
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you really were faced with the thoughts random thoughts of
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: giving up or quitting or maybe something was.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Just like ugh, I don't know. A couple of times,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, a few times I thought about, maybe
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I should not have done this, or maybe I should
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: maybe let the whole medical thing go and just go
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: back to me just a simpler time when I was
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: just out selling the ATMs and the hard terminals and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: doing business loans and it was just me. I didn't
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: have to deal with employees. All I had to worry
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: about was myself. And I loved it because I could
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: stay out, get up and six o'clock in the morning,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I come home to nine ten o'clock. Not deal with employees,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: not deal with what goes along with having employees as
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: far as benefits everything else. But then it's no, this
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: is for warning you need to step out of your
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: comfort zone.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, And just for the people like me
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that don't know what skilled nursing is, can you break
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that down?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Okay? So skilled nursing is. Let's say that we have
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: a patient that needs skilled service. It's such a track
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: woon care or track won care. Let's see what else
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: they can need, ivy services, anything that would be a
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: skilled pickline, anything that is skilled. Oh okay, okay, all right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Would you like to say anything to the listeners tuning in?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I would actually please go on my butler out and
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: please go ahead and download it and get verified and
• 36:45
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• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Guys, I'd love to argue with somebody out there about
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: who's who made it better on eating while broke. That's
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: so I can squab it out, all right, Thanks y'all
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: for tuning in.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Peace out,