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Marcelo Mayer time in Boston, Bregman's injury, Roman Anthony soon? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: With Anthony, it could kind of be a hey, but
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Speaker 1: we need to turn this around. And so at this
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Speaker 1: point I wouldn't be surprised if us any day he
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Speaker 1: has nothing left to prove.
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Speaker 2: Chris Catillo from Mass Live joining us right now. Chris,
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Speaker 2: great to have you back on. I'll say what I've
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Speaker 2: been saying online. I mean, they should have done the
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Speaker 2: documentary on the Red Sox this year, not last year.
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Speaker 2: It is one thing after another. We've been talking about
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Speaker 2: this team a lot for a five hundred ish ball club.
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Speaker 2: But let's start with the news here. On the positive end,
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Speaker 2: Marcella Meyer gets the call up. What did you see
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Speaker 2: from him this weekend?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he doesn't look overmatched at the plate.
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Speaker 1: I think this is a kid who, you know, people
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Speaker 1: had very high expectations for heading into spring training, Heading
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Speaker 1: into the season, I think he came close or was
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Speaker 1: leading the minor leagues in RBIs so a guy who's
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Speaker 1: a smooth defender and athlete. Obviously a lot of hype
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Speaker 1: about him around here for like four years. Was this
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Speaker 1: the way they wanted to call him up? Because of
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Speaker 1: a catastrophic in in between the halves of a doubleheader
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Speaker 1: on a rainy day at Fenway. No, but the excitement
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Speaker 1: was there. I think it overshadowed the loss of Bregman
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Speaker 1: a little bit, which I think is the bigger story.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk about. But you know, two of
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Speaker 1: the big three are up. The fans want Roman Anthony
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Speaker 1: next and it's an exciting time from that point of view,
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Speaker 1: and everything else has kind of gone to help.
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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned on it the Bregman Injury's got significant injury,
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Speaker 3: especially with how well he was hitting to start off
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Speaker 3: this year. I think he was a big key piece
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Speaker 3: into that order and really moving that thing along. So
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Speaker 3: what kind of who's going to fill the spot for
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Speaker 3: that who's how are they going to cope with him
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Speaker 3: being out? And how serious of an injury is it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're talking about you know, two months, ten weeks,
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Speaker 1: something in that range, because he Bregman had. This happened
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Speaker 1: four years ago in Houston at twenty twenty one, and
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Speaker 1: it was a big cor and Bregman described it as
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Speaker 1: a very similar thing. Obviously, he's four years older now,
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Speaker 1: so maybe the recovery time is even a little longer.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to project. It's hard to compare when there's
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Speaker 1: that age gap. But he thought it was nothing when
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Speaker 1: it first happened. It turned out to be something. Meyer's
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Speaker 1: going to play third. It seems like he's the plan
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Speaker 1: kind of on an everyday basis, which is kind of
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Speaker 1: crazy because this kid is a natural shortstop. He was
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Speaker 1: starting to work on a second base so they could
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Speaker 1: move Campbell to first, and you know, now all those
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Speaker 1: plans are kind of ruined. And as I you know,
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Speaker 1: as we've written and talked about on our pod, like
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Speaker 1: this is really kind of screwed up the whole infield
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Speaker 1: in a big way. They were looking to, you know,
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Speaker 1: install Campbell at first because they need to fill that
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Speaker 1: hole with Cossas out and call Meyer up to play second.
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Speaker 1: Now they can't do that. That extends the leash on
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Speaker 1: story who hasn't hit for a month, and it extends
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Speaker 1: a leash on Campbell who hasn't hit for a month too.
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Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a fire drill, you know,
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Speaker 1: times four at this point, because they have to keep
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Speaker 1: moving pieces around. Devers is still not going back into
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Speaker 1: the field. I think the door is shut on that.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on when it comes to the infield.
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Speaker 1: It just shows you, you know, how losing Cossas and
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Speaker 1: how losing Bregman has really affected them and the domino effect.
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Speaker 4: Is huge, Chris, can we now say that the defensive
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Speaker 4: woes weren't all Rafie Devers? I know we kind of
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Speaker 4: joked about that earlier, but can we officially say that, hey,
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Speaker 4: just because Raffi Devers, because their defense, Like, you can
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Speaker 4: talk about the offense, but their defense hasn't been very
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Speaker 4: good for a while either. Basically the whole year, their
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Speaker 4: defense has been below average.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean basically for the last four years the
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Speaker 1: defense has been below average. You know, the outfield defense
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Speaker 1: is good a Bray who is a goal glover, and
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Speaker 1: right Duran and Raphael are both very good. But in
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Speaker 1: the infield, you know, I think part of it is
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Speaker 1: piecing it together at first and just kind of the
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Speaker 1: domino effect without that steadying presence. Not that Costas is
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Speaker 1: a goal glover over there, but just mixing and matching
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Speaker 1: guys who haven't played the position much, whether that is
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Speaker 1: Romeganzalez who's hurt right now, Toro who we saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of over the weekend, or so guard or having
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Speaker 1: Campbell try to learn it on the fly. He hasn't
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Speaker 1: gotten into a game yet Campbell, a rookie learning the
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Speaker 1: major league game at second, learning the speed of it
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Speaker 1: has been shaky. Story. It looks like he's taking a
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Speaker 1: step back, not just at the plate, but in the
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Speaker 1: field as well. And you know Bregman was a stabilizing
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Speaker 1: force over there after some early errors. But now you're
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Speaker 1: asking Meyer, who again has a defensive upside, but in
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Speaker 1: the middle, and he's not played third much. He's coming up,
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Speaker 1: kind of similar to Bogarts in twenty thirteen, right, a
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Speaker 1: long term short stopped coming up and debuting at third
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Speaker 1: because of a need. This is where they're at and
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Speaker 1: so has not been great. And I know it just
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Speaker 1: drives Alex Cora crazy because he's a guy that built
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Speaker 1: a thirteen major league thirteen year major league career around
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Speaker 1: being a good defender and occasionally getting a hit, as
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Speaker 1: he always likes to say. And so they've switched in
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Speaker 1: field instructors like three times from you know, the time
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Speaker 1: Corps has been here, from the time he came back.
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Speaker 1: Ramon Vasquez and Jose Flores are doing it now and
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Speaker 1: nothing's clicked. I think it just comes down to personnel
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Speaker 1: and just the instability you've seen. I mean, they entered
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Speaker 1: the year with cossas Campbell's story in Bregman. They thought
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Speaker 1: it was a pretty good mix. On paper, it should be,
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Speaker 1: but when you have half of that mix out now
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Speaker 1: and Campbell learning the game on the fly and Story
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Speaker 1: taking a step back, you can see how, you know,
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Speaker 1: the unhered runs, the little league home runs always seem
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Speaker 1: to add up for this team.
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Speaker 3: What's the inner discussion around Story a little bit? Is
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Speaker 3: there any Is it just kind of like a hang
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Speaker 3: with him and hoped that he catches a little bit
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Speaker 3: of a heat here and regain some of his former
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Speaker 3: kind of self or is there any kind of plan
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Speaker 3: that they have kind of starting to move it kind
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Speaker 3: of get the ball rolling on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried to unplug him for a day or
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Speaker 1: two over the weekend. They've tried to do that a
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Speaker 1: couple of times, just as a reset day. Go work
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Speaker 1: in the cage. I mean, nothing has clicked. He has
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Speaker 1: one extra base hit against a pitcher, a non position
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Speaker 1: player in the last month. He had a homer in
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Speaker 1: Kansas City against a real pitcher. He doubled over the
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Speaker 1: weekend against a position player with Baltimore. Other than that,
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Speaker 1: he's hitting one thirty two with forty strikeouts over one
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Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen at bats. It has been ugly to watch.
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Speaker 1: He looks lost at the plate against you know, every
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Speaker 1: pitch you could possibly imagine. What complicates this is that
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Speaker 1: you know, he is a guy who has immense respect
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Speaker 1: in the clubhouse. He's a guy that they still think
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Speaker 1: has a lot of athleticism, a lot of talent, just
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Speaker 1: been sidelined by injuries. But for a team with designs
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Speaker 1: on competing, the question was, as of earlier or a
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Speaker 1: week ago, like how long could you continue to let
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Speaker 1: this go? But now you know Marcela Meyer a natural shortstop.
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Speaker 1: Was that replacement if they were going to make the
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Speaker 1: drastic move and say eat a ton of salary and
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Speaker 1: dfa Trevor Story. I don't know if that was ever
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Speaker 1: in play. I'm not saying it should be. It's just
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Speaker 1: a conversation worth having. At this point, I think Meyer
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Speaker 1: was going to be the guy to come up and
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Speaker 1: play short and you could figure it out from there.
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Speaker 1: Now you need him to play third base every day
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Speaker 1: with Bregman out, and so the list of options is dwindled,
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Speaker 1: and I think Story might have a little longer leaseh
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Speaker 1: out of that. You know, this is a guy who's
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Speaker 1: been streaky throughout his career. Maybe the calendar turns to June,
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Speaker 1: the weather heats up a little bit more, and he
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Speaker 1: carries the offense for a couple of weeks, which they
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Speaker 1: really need a right handed bat now with Bregman out,
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Speaker 1: Campbell struggling. But you know, you look at the numbers.
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Speaker 1: He started out so great and it's just been, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of the worst months. You can imagine at the
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Speaker 1: plate and tough. I think in that club house for
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Speaker 1: a guy that they respect as much as he they
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Speaker 1: respect him.
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Speaker 4: Chris, what about Cassus? You mentioned Tristan causes, Like, where
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Speaker 4: are the Red Sox at with him? I know he
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Speaker 4: has an injury history, they came into the here he
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Speaker 4: mentioned he has shaky defense. But where are the Red Sox?
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Speaker 4: What's the long term plans for him? They're hoping he
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Speaker 4: comes back and he figures out how to play again,
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Speaker 4: or is it kind of the end for him there
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Speaker 4: in Boston. They're going to try and move him and
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Speaker 4: move on and find someone else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's out for this year for sure,
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Speaker 1: and this is going to be a long rehab from
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Speaker 1: the Beteller tendon. You know, the injuries have been and
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Speaker 1: I kind of like to categorize, like are they soft
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Speaker 1: tissue things that just happened? And guys are perpetually banged up?
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Speaker 1: Or are they you know, really gruesome injuries With him,
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Speaker 1: it's been a ribcage. He tore his cartilage in his ribcage,
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Speaker 1: which I would imagine is like the most painful thing
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Speaker 1: anyone's ever been through. That was what it was last year.
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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of surgical options. There a lot
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Speaker 1: of healing. You just kind of are you know, accelerated
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Speaker 1: healing options. You have to wait until that feels better.
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Speaker 1: This year we play out. He landed weirdly non contact
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Speaker 1: injury and it's like worse than a torn acl from
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Speaker 1: what everybody says. So I think bad luck more than
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Speaker 1: anything on the injury front. Trading a guy when his
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Speaker 1: value is just low over the winter doesn't make a
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Speaker 1: ton of sense. So I think he comes to camp
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Speaker 1: and hopefully for them, he's healthy and hopefully he's ready
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Speaker 1: to contribute. You know. Craig Breslo spoke of this guy
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Speaker 1: as having not thirty homer upside, but forty homer upside
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Speaker 1: heading into this year. You know, he's still young. People
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Speaker 1: think of him as, you know, maybe a little older
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Speaker 1: than the rest of the corps, but still you know,
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Speaker 1: early to mid twenties, a guy that they you know,
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Speaker 1: imagine contributing in the future, but you know it's our
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Speaker 1: along road of recovery and it's not a sure thing
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Speaker 1: when you come back from these gruesome year long knee
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Speaker 1: rehabs that you know you can be the same guy
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Speaker 1: they're they're hoping on that. I wouldn't be surprised to
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Speaker 1: see the mads insurance and first base options either at
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Speaker 1: the deadline with control or over the offseason, because you know,
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Speaker 1: right now, as I said, they're throwing out you know,
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Speaker 1: Roming Gonzalez, who is was def made by the White
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Speaker 1: Sox a year ago, Abraham Toro who signed an NRI,
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Speaker 1: and Nick Sogard, who you know, without this injury, would
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Speaker 1: probably be a DFA candidate. So they don't have much
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Speaker 1: in the pipeline. Maybe a guy like Blaze Jordan, who
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Speaker 1: was a YouTube superstar at thirteen and has been in
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Speaker 1: their system for a while, is the guy who emerges.
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Speaker 1: But you know, for now, they're piecing it together, and
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Speaker 1: I think they have to come up with a better
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Speaker 1: long term plan there.
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Speaker 3: What's the overall tone then for the Red Sox team
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Speaker 3: right now? How would you say it? Because as a
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Speaker 3: former player, when the clubhouse likes to rely on the
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Speaker 3: older guys, and you said, if the story's not going
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Speaker 3: well or some of these older guys who aren't playing well,
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Speaker 3: they're normally the ones who pick up everyone that they're
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Speaker 3: the positive influence on everyone, the positive energy. But if
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Speaker 3: they're kind of dealing with their own crap at the
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Speaker 3: play and not playing too well, there's a lot of
10:43
Speaker 3: negativity that can kind of creep in. And we saw
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Speaker 3: a Rev. Snyder quote kind of at the end of
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Speaker 3: the game recently where he's talking about He's like, we
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Speaker 3: just suck right now. Is there a light at the
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Speaker 3: end of the tunnel for this team? Is it just
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Speaker 3: anything that can go wrong is going wrong right now?
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Speaker 3: Or they like do they just kind of try to
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Speaker 3: stay afloat right now until they can get Bragman and
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Speaker 3: some other people back down the road and hopefully still
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Speaker 3: be in it when it comes or what's this is it?
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Speaker 4: Like?
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Speaker 3: Is it starting to the gloom to be too much?
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Speaker 3: I guess.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean the rest Snider quotes I think said a lot,
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Speaker 1: you know, a veteran guys standing up and saying we
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Speaker 1: got to figure this out, Like this says is not
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Speaker 1: a team like it was a year ago or two
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Speaker 1: years ago that was looking for you know, maybe we
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Speaker 1: win eighty four games and get in. Maybe not, and
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Speaker 1: if not, it's all about player development. This is a
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Speaker 1: team that cut Crochet, that got Bragman, the cut Walker
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Speaker 1: Buehler on a high paying one year deal that kind
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Speaker 1: of tried to go you know, if not, you know,
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Speaker 1: full throttle are all in this winter something close to it.
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Speaker 1: It was spread out so people don't realize how aggressive
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Speaker 1: it is. But Bragman and Crochet, along with Bueller, Chapman,
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Speaker 1: some of these guys like it was a pretty big
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Speaker 1: offseason with designs on contending this year, and they have
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Speaker 1: just not clicked as a team. You know, when they've pitched,
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Speaker 1: they haven't hit. When they've hit, they haven't pitched. The
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Speaker 1: defense has been shaky and cost them games. They've lost
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Speaker 1: a ton of one run games, which is as signed
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Speaker 1: to me of team, a team that turns wins into losses,
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Speaker 1: which they have. And now I think the big question
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Speaker 1: is just the line up. You know, you were relying
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Speaker 1: on Cossas and Story and Bregman to be you know,
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Speaker 1: three of your top five six hitters probably and you're
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Speaker 1: not getting anything out of Bregnant for two months you're
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Speaker 1: not getting anything for Cossas for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 1: Story struggles as we talked about. So they're talking about
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Speaker 1: ways to fix this lineup behind Devers right now, like
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Speaker 1: will you're a braw and so Jaron Duran leads off
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Speaker 1: and he's a good player. A brey is a good hitter.
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Speaker 1: They're trying this rookie Carlos Narvayez, who was a catcher
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Speaker 1: they got in the minor trade with the Yankees in
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Speaker 1: December that nobody knew anything about as the number three hitter,
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Speaker 1: the number four hitter. Has he been producing, of course,
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Speaker 1: but it just kind of shows you how the deck
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Speaker 1: of cards is kind of collapsed. They need guys to
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Speaker 1: step up. Whether that's Meyer carrying them offensively, you know,
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Speaker 1: in his debut week or debut month, whether that's Campbell
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Speaker 1: turning things around, whether it's Roman Anthony coming up and
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Speaker 1: being a middle of the order guy immediately, which is
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Speaker 1: a huge ass from a twenty one year old kid.
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Speaker 1: They need something to click. Whether it's an early trade,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. But the lineup to me is concerning
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Speaker 1: because if you look around one through nine, first base
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Speaker 1: is a question mark, second and short as we've covered,
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Speaker 1: haven't been hitting. Rafaelo has been slumping. You're relying on
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Speaker 1: three or four guys, and we've seen that play out
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Speaker 1: over the last week where outside of a you know,
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Speaker 1: the numbers don't look that bad because they have some
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Speaker 1: blowout wins. They score thirteen runs against a position player
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Speaker 1: against Baltimore the other day, and so that, you know,
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Speaker 1: all those stats count. But if you watch it every day,
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Speaker 1: it's not a good offensive team and it hasn't been,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to be I think worse, significantly worse
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Speaker 1: without pregnant Chris.
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Speaker 2: Don't they have a pretty good prospect who can swing
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Speaker 2: the back, get on base and hitting wise, looks like
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Speaker 2: he belongs right now in the majors. In the name
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Speaker 2: of Roman Anthony. Do you think at some point if
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Speaker 2: this five hundred isc you know, five hundred dish little
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Speaker 2: slumpy offense ride continues, they're going to figure out a
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Speaker 2: way to force him into the lineup.
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Speaker 1: I think you kind of have to at some point,
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Speaker 1: you know, and you lose something defensively in center field
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Speaker 1: by unplugging Rafaela. But you know, he goes through stretches.
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Speaker 1: I think he's you know, something like a one for
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Speaker 1: twenty two. He was in the defense. Obviously plays he's
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Speaker 1: elite in center, but the swing and miss to strikeouts
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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the lineup just something you know
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Speaker 1: you can't have on a struggling team. You need to
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Speaker 1: try to play small ball, so you know, that's a
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Speaker 1: trade off. Obviously the offense defense you'd have to move
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Speaker 1: to Rando center. Anthony would probably play left, which you
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Speaker 1: can handle at Fenway in the small left field, you know,
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Speaker 1: but it's just like how much can you ask out
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Speaker 1: of rookies. You know they would be if he's in
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Speaker 1: a lineup starting four of them, the big three in Campbell,
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Speaker 1: Meyer and Anthony and then Narvaiaz As I mentioned, they
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Speaker 1: have a rookie in the rotation and Dobbins. A lot
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Speaker 1: of guys debuting. It's a big ask to try to, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, turn this thing around or even keep them
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Speaker 1: afloat until Bregman comes back or some of these guys
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Speaker 1: get healthy. So I probably would do it at this point.
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Speaker 1: You know, guys are going to have the struggle patches
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Speaker 1: in the majors, They're going to have, you know, times
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Speaker 1: where the game speeds up. We've seen that with Campbell
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Speaker 1: over the last month. I think there's something to having
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Speaker 1: them all doing it together. Meyer and Anthony Campbell are
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Speaker 1: extremely close. Meyer and Anthony have been for a period
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Speaker 1: of years, coming up through the system together. So you know,
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Speaker 1: for a team that needs a spark, the spark doesn't
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Speaker 1: really come in the way of Meyer. In my mind,
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Speaker 1: he's a great play Probably he's going to be a
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Speaker 1: great player, but it comes because of a catastrophic injury.
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Speaker 1: With Anthony, it could kind of be a hey, we
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Speaker 1: need to turn this around. And so at this point,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it's any day he has
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Speaker 1: nothing left to prove. In the Miners, it's just they
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Speaker 1: have Durant, they have a bray, they have Rafaela, they
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Speaker 1: have Devers, you know, playing getting d H at bats
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Speaker 1: every day. It's tough to find a place where to
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Speaker 1: put him. I think if they get creative with rafael
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Speaker 1: and do something they don't want to do, mix him
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Speaker 1: into the infield mixer as a super utility guy, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe that clears the path and a couple more losses.
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Speaker 1: And I think that spark, that urgency comes even more
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Speaker 1: into play.
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Speaker 4: The rookies. I mean, it's Boston, I played in Boston, right,
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Speaker 4: I went through it. You work in Boston, you see
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Speaker 4: it every day. If you have to count on three
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Speaker 4: rookies in Boston, how happy are the fans going to be?
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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, I know there'll be an excitement, But
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Speaker 4: you already mentioned Campbell struggling. God forbid Meyer struggles, God
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Speaker 4: forbid all these guys. Anthony comes up and struggles. Then
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Speaker 4: what because then they've wasted their best three prospects that
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Speaker 4: are supposed to save the organization, and their year falls apart,
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Speaker 4: and then it might change their whole trajectory. So how
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Speaker 4: much are Boston fans worried that? Man, if this is
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Speaker 4: the only answer, we're in trouble.
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Speaker 1: Boston fans are absolutely in love with these prospects. The
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Speaker 1: hype train is rolled, I think for so long. On Meyer.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he has been the top ten prospect in
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Speaker 1: the game since he was drafted in twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: With Anthony, it's been you know, he emerged in his
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Speaker 1: first pro season. Campbell came on last year. So these
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Speaker 1: fans are very familiar with these guys. They have extremely
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Speaker 1: high hopes for them. I think unfairly from all of us,
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Speaker 1: the media, the fans, the organization to be the saviors.
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Speaker 1: You don't want twenty one twenty two year old kids
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, cast in that light. It's just
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Speaker 1: where they are right now with Bregmant out, with Cossaus
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Speaker 1: out with other guys scuffling, you know. And I think
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Speaker 1: it's also important to the point you just made, like
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Speaker 1: for fans and everybody to understand that if Roman Anthony
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Speaker 1: is an average Major leaguer this year, or Meyer or
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Speaker 1: Campbell when it's all said and done, that doesn't you know,
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Speaker 1: tell the story of you know, what they're going to
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Speaker 1: be in the future. We've seen that play out with
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Speaker 1: some of even the brightest stars in the game, right
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Speaker 1: Judge and Trout and some of those guys. But you know,
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Speaker 1: the counterpoint, as I said, is if you know there's
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Speaker 1: going to be some growing pains and some learning experiences,
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Speaker 1: you might as well, you know, have them do it
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Speaker 1: all together where they can kind of you know, bounce
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Speaker 1: things off each other and have their close friendships they do,
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Speaker 1: and also, you know, have it happened sooner rather than later.
17:48
Speaker 1: You know, there's if Roman Anthony is going to have
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Speaker 1: a four strikeout game, might as well be in the majors.
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Speaker 1: Where the upside's there instead of triple A in my mind.
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Speaker 1: And you know, there's tough conversations to happen when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the field, but I do think now it's
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Speaker 1: the time.
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Speaker 3: Chris.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate the insight. Always great to have you on, really
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Speaker 2: really good info and a lot going on in Boston
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Speaker 2: these days. Give Chris a follow at Chris Catillo and
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Speaker 2: also read his work in mass Live. Thanks Chris, good
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Speaker 2: to see you man.
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Speaker 1: Thanks lot, I appreciate it.