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Panthers vs 49ers NFL DFS Showdown | Week 12 MNF | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: All systems going clear, the lift Up? What's Up? Eumber one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Monday Night Football showdown show here on
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  Speaker 1: the Ship Nation YouTube station got titled got Hoop Here
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  Speaker 1: with me as always gonna break down all things Panthers
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  Speaker 1: at the forty nine ers Hoop. Bring you in, man.
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  Speaker 1: It was an interesting Sunday yesterday the Jamie Show Your
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  Speaker 1: Lions took a little while to heat up, but got
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  Speaker 1: the job done in the end. Quite the game. Dfs aside.
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  Speaker 1: I love football games like that. That was a real game,
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  Speaker 1: fun stuff back and forth. The Giants made it something
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  Speaker 1: they ended up losing, but what a game overall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were very I guess for me personally,
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  Speaker 2: I was very right and very wrong in regards to
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  Speaker 2: that Lions game. We all kind of said, like kind
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  Speaker 2: of we talked on the show yesterday about creating that
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  Speaker 2: rule to make sure you had one Lions player on
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  Speaker 2: each team. Well hopefully you did because you needed Gibbs
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  Speaker 2: or you weren't winning anything yesterday. Just absolutely nuke the slate.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the Lions would absolutely smoke the Giants and
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  Speaker 2: put up a huge number, put up a decent number,
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  Speaker 2: but man, they definitely have some issues, there's no doubt
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  Speaker 2: about it. But nothing else too crazy on the slate.
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  Speaker 2: And then we get to show Down and you came
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  Speaker 2: down with a big time shipper, so congratulations to you.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of staying hot. So that's good, good time of year,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, we'll look to build on that momentum tonight
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  Speaker 2: forty nine Ers Panthers, and I think it's a pretty
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  Speaker 2: solid I'll say a showdown slate, we'll talk through it
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  Speaker 2: all but a few parts of this game that I
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  Speaker 2: really like and aspects of the game that are pretty
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  Speaker 2: appealing for dfs, so we'll break it all down. But
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  Speaker 2: congrats again at the big night yesterday, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I said to our man Donnie Draper in chat.
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  Speaker 1: He was like people were He said, you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: second half stress eating. I said no, because that lineup
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  Speaker 1: has a zero chance to win. And then I was
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  Speaker 1: like whatever and did not go through it. Woke up
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  Speaker 1: at six point thirty in the morning with all the
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  Speaker 1: messages in chat, I go back and look and it
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  Speaker 1: was the exact same lineup. Somehow managed to stay up top,
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  Speaker 1: or at least finished up top. Because there was a
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  Speaker 1: Stafford lineup right next to it, so it was awesome
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  Speaker 1: to see that one hang on sometimes, like my man,
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  Speaker 1: title says, you need a little bit of luck, right,
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  Speaker 1: So that's how we'll take it. Good night. We'll definitely
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  Speaker 1: take a flag chopper and move on to the next
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  Speaker 1: one we get back. Tonight should be a fun slate though, Title,
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  Speaker 1: How was your Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think I broke even, And if I broke even,
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  Speaker 3: that is a great, great sunday, especially to start this year,
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  Speaker 3: so take that. I'm excited for this game. I think
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers are a decent football team. I mean I
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  Speaker 3: heavily respect the forty nine ers at home seven and
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  Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, they've taken a little money recently, but
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  Speaker 3: Rico's a beast, tests a beast, and when you have
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  Speaker 3: two studs like that on offense, defense can play a
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  Speaker 3: little bit too. I think we could be in for
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  Speaker 3: a competitive game. Maybe that's just my hope. He I'm
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  Speaker 3: setting in, but yeah, excited for some football tonight. Good
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  Speaker 3: prizes and Thanksgiving right around the corner. It's a great week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the chat's all in there for you. Hoop we
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  Speaker 1: had we graduated title yesterday's show and today it's me
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  Speaker 1: from last night tonight hoopster. Yeah, that's how we do
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  Speaker 1: things around here. We love to see it, so we'll
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: get her done. You know, Naid's in the chat talking
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  Speaker 1: about your boy. I literally laughed so hard yesterday when
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  Speaker 1: you did the ex Twitter whatever you gonna call it,
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  Speaker 1: search up of golf yep still plays. Yeah, he shoted
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing, like all eight comments of your points.
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  Speaker 2: It's all true, and they're just not gonna win with
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  Speaker 2: them like you got. He just is so bad under pressure,
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  Speaker 2: like so so bad pressure. And obviously they ended up
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  Speaker 2: getting the job done and winning, but I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: against the freaking Giant. It's like it's not an impressive win.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, they're definitely an overrated team. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they're a contender this year.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it was crazy yesterday too, because I know that
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  Speaker 1: you know, everyone's sweating the Survivor streets and it was
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  Speaker 1: like the Ravens were down, the Lions were down, Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City was definitely anything in anyone, not that everyone had
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  Speaker 1: all those teams in play, but it was certainly a
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  Speaker 1: moment there you're like Okay, which team is going to
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  Speaker 1: lose this today and then.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about that, Timbo. I mean, I'm starting to
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  Speaker 3: get nervous for the Ravens. I'm starting to get nervous.
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  Speaker 3: Lamar is not He's not showing me prime Lamar's stuff
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if he's still He definitely doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Playing like it. I'm almost hoping he is, because if
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  Speaker 3: this is now the Lamar we're getting all year, I
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  Speaker 3: just don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there'll be they'd be one hundred in the
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  Speaker 2: water if if that's if that's the new version of Lamar,
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  Speaker 2: they're done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he has they have to be lying. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Ravens fan, but it's like, there's no way
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  Speaker 1: he's not hurt or he's like pulling up on certain
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  Speaker 1: plays and you see him as he like gingerly creep
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  Speaker 1: set of bounds. It's like and then they say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that he has nothing wrong with them, it's
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  Speaker 1: all fine, no limitations, Like I don't I don't see it.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how it takes out. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: definitely nervous about the longevity and even this game upcoming
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday. We're gonna have a huge slate hoop myself
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  Speaker 1: and our man Alex Blick will be back on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: one pm Eastern on this station, so make sure you're
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  Speaker 1: subscribed to break it all down. But Burrow back, I
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  Speaker 1: know there's no Higgins, but you'll have Chase back from
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  Speaker 1: Spitgate and they'll be able to play. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's tricky man. I know it's his first game
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  Speaker 1: back for Burrow, but the Ravens tend to make things
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  Speaker 1: close even if it shouldn't be, and that could be
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  Speaker 1: another spot. I'll have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just what an NFL we have. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't be wrong. It's such so weak. To week
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  Speaker 3: you think the Chiefs are the best team in football,
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  Speaker 3: then they stink. Josh Allen puts up a dominating performance
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  Speaker 3: and they lose. Like It's yeah, the NFL is fun?
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  Speaker 3: What about that?
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, Tyler's in here. We still know them even
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  Speaker 1: with no governments. Now the way YouTube does it, we
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  Speaker 1: can still tell who's who. Ram's only real contenders in
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  Speaker 1: the league everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they clearly the best team right now. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if if you had to say who's the best team
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL. I mean, I think the answer has
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  Speaker 2: to be the Rams. I mean, I don't think you could. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if you could make a case
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  Speaker 2: for anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: You want Stafford back over golf.
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  Speaker 2: Ah one hundred percent signed me up? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: You kidding me? He would be the perfect guy for
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  Speaker 2: like what what Detroit has with the manra And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: obviously the situation is working out quite well in uh
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles for him, but he would be a perfect fit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he'd be a perfect fit on a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams. And he's playing the it's crazy because he's
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  Speaker 2: what thirty eight thirty nine and he's playing the best
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  Speaker 2: football of his career and it's probably not even close.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't some of the young guys, man, it
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  Speaker 1: takes a little while. I feel like you need to
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: get a little seasoned in the NFL. You got to
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  Speaker 1: have that experience. It's just different. It hits different, you
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  Speaker 1: feel all that. So I think that's something for sure.
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  Speaker 1: If I had titles old Glasses, maybe it's looking like
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  Speaker 1: a serial Hope wins the Milliseummember title.
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  Speaker 3: You got those all the time, Blue light.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, those ones, if I put those on right now,
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  Speaker 1: would be a very very rough scene over here, be
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  Speaker 1: very tough. But all right, let's get.
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  Speaker 2: The serial killer status for sure. With those in that stat.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we don't need none of that. We need to
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  Speaker 1: be safe, I mean to take care of the kids, man,
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: be safe. It's a your holiday season coming up. You
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  Speaker 1: got to take care of everyone. So whop, what's your
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  Speaker 1: grand scheme overview for this game? You know, McCaffrey, at
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  Speaker 1: least from DFS wise, it looks like McCaffrey's going to
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  Speaker 1: hit kind of Josh Allen levels if it was the
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  Speaker 1: Bill Slate, if you will, it's kind of like that
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  Speaker 1: type of setup. So how do you think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to play out? And what are your first thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: how the game's going to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, McCaffrey's definitely the you know, standout top projected guy.
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  Speaker 2: He has priced up there.
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  Speaker 3: They did a good job.
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  Speaker 2: They got him at twelve four, so you are making
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  Speaker 2: some sacrifice if you do play him, but with value
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  Speaker 2: options like, he's definitely going to be the highest. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the one thing that definitely stands up to me on
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  Speaker 2: the San France side is now that all their guys
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  Speaker 2: are back. Everything is very consolidated, I mean very consolidated dated.
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  Speaker 2: There's not many fringe pieces with the forty nine ers offense.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you got Purty, got cmc, Jennings, Pearcell and
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  Speaker 2: Kittle like. It's a large, large, large majority of what
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  Speaker 2: they do is going through those guys. So it makes
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  Speaker 2: it somewhat easy, I would say, for you know, figuring
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  Speaker 2: out where where is it, where is it going to go?
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  Speaker 2: If it's not McCaffrey, who else could it go to.
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  Speaker 2: On the panther side, you know, they have pieces, they
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  Speaker 2: have high volume guys that can get the job done.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen our guy Rico Dodal get the job done
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  Speaker 2: all season long. He's ten to four. And then Teed
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  Speaker 2: McMillan is legit. I mean Tet McMillan is a real
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver in the NFL nine to four. So you
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  Speaker 2: have guys on the other side, high volume guys that
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  Speaker 2: can you know, do some damage fantasy wise. So I
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  Speaker 2: like it. From those two aspects, we have a consolidated
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  Speaker 2: forty nine ers offense and then we have a couple
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  Speaker 2: of pieces on the other side that are legit fantasy options.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm kind of liking this game here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Good, good breakdown actually kind of how
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking of, So title anything, what you have
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  Speaker 1: to add to that or anything else you want to mention.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just kind of surprised at first glance
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  Speaker 3: seeing like McCaffrey that high owned at captain relative too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's plenty of other good guys in the
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  Speaker 3: slate and we're getting the captain right now. My lean
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  Speaker 3: is if I can go under, if I go under
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  Speaker 3: on McCaffrey, I can probably go overweight on five to
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  Speaker 3: six legit guys that I think have one hundred yard
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  Speaker 3: two touchdown upside. And on top of that, draftings, like
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  Speaker 3: Hoop said price McCaffrey up appropriately twelve four and the
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  Speaker 3: next highest is ten four on a slate that I
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  Speaker 3: don't really see too much value on the slate. So
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: I kind of, I mean, everything's lining up. I'm really
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  Speaker 3: liking this slate right now. Yeah, it's scary being under
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  Speaker 3: on McCaffrey, one of the best running backs in football,
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  Speaker 3: but the lack of value with how many other guys
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  Speaker 3: I think are real players. That's how that's my path today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's start there then, because you're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: to captains anyway, and we both kind of just gave
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  Speaker 1: her all of us gave our grand scheme overviews. So
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  Speaker 1: if not McCaffrey, I mean we could make a million
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: chats about that when you look at some of the
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  Speaker 1: flex options later on in ways to make them fit.
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  Speaker 1: There're certainly they exist, but like you said, it's not
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  Speaker 1: as many as usual. Maybe what's your thoughts then of
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  Speaker 1: alternative captains? If taking an underweight stance on McCaffrey up top.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's twenty six percent, So I mean right away,
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  Speaker 3: I see Brock Perdy, who he can spread the ball
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  Speaker 3: out a lot. He could throw one in McCaffrey, Kittle
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  Speaker 3: juwan right there. He's a quarterback that can get there
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  Speaker 3: that way. So I like Purty up top, I like
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  Speaker 3: Jawan Jennings up top. I think he has big boy upside.
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  Speaker 3: I think George Kittle has a lot of upside, and
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  Speaker 3: I think Ricky Piersall showing three percent, he's definitely my
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  Speaker 3: least favorite of all the ones I mentioned, but he's
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  Speaker 3: three percent owned at captain, So I just think all
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  Speaker 3: of those guys are in play for me. If McCaffrey
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  Speaker 3: doesn't get there, and they're still implied to score like
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  Speaker 3: almost thirty points. So I like all that. And then
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: on the other side, it's definitely more condensed. But I
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  Speaker 3: think Tet and Rico are two studs. I mean their
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  Speaker 3: offense really runs through them. Bryce Young, Jalen Cocher. I
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: will say Coker's the cheap guys I always try and
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  Speaker 3: they're not all slates, but some slates, especially when they're
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  Speaker 3: tight value. Cocher he was getting a lot of hype preseason,
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  Speaker 3: then he got hurt right before the year. He had
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  Speaker 3: a lot of snaps, like almost seventy five percent last week,
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  Speaker 3: which is his most, So I expect him to be
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  Speaker 3: an almost every down guy. I think he's interesting. We
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  Speaker 3: get to flex. I like him.
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  Speaker 2: Captain.
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  Speaker 3: I'll play a little bit. But just if you want
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  Speaker 3: to go Ted Brock, Rico, Juwan Jennings, George Kittle, you
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  Speaker 3: could add Ricky Pearsill and like, you can get overweight
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  Speaker 3: on all of them if you're decently underweight and McCaffrey
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's what I'm gonna do today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's interesting hoop because it was obviously
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  Speaker 1: went well for me. Last night, but just even the
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  Speaker 1: thought of it and how it ended up playing out
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  Speaker 1: and looking back at it, like I just thought, there's
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  Speaker 1: no chance with Adams that it would hold, and that
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  Speaker 1: guy had two touchdowns and everything else going for him.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, man, it's it's so tricky when these quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: spread it out like that. So for tonight, I guess
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  Speaker 1: the reason to bring that up is, like, obviously we
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  Speaker 1: know McCaffrey looks good, tons of ways to still play him.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna be in there even if you if you
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  Speaker 1: have any type of a portfolio at all, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter if you're underweight, you're still going on a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of them regardless. Like Title could have twenty were set,
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey would be underweight but still overweight on those other guys.
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  Speaker 1: But who Jennings Piersoll like, I don't know, like Kittle
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  Speaker 1: feels like the two touchdown guy, or to Title's point,
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  Speaker 1: like the Cocher play where it's cheap enough that it
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  Speaker 1: would fit the other guys where you can't fit them
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  Speaker 1: all unless you have a cheap guy up top. But
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  Speaker 1: it really does feel like if it's not McCaffrey, it's
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  Speaker 1: one of perty or Kittle from that side, because it's
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  Speaker 1: that's how you'd think that they would suck up the
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  Speaker 1: energy or get the points that way. But I don't know, what,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? I think Perdy is probably the
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  Speaker 1: place that i'd want to move to first, and you're
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: not getting a huge ownership savings, but at least.
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  Speaker 2: Some Yeah, you know, I like the party playoff top
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  Speaker 2: just kind of for that reason. It's like you're you're
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  Speaker 2: not playing McCaffrey up top. You're hoping that most of
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  Speaker 2: their offensive production comes through the air and then it
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: gets spread out. And with Perty up top it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: playing Purdy, there's a pretty good chance that it does
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  Speaker 2: get spread out because you know a lot of it's
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  Speaker 2: still going to go to McCaffrey, Like even the passes
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  Speaker 2: are going to McAffrey. So you have a running back
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  Speaker 2: that catches the ball more often than any other running
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  Speaker 2: back in the NFL, and then you have Kittle, and
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  Speaker 2: you have Jennings and you have Piercils. So I think
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  Speaker 2: it's just very logical to go to Purty next. He
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  Speaker 2: would be my second favorite captain, So I do agree
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  Speaker 2: with you there. I also like the point that that
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  Speaker 2: title made up that title made that like, if you're
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  Speaker 2: not playing McCaffrey, no, not not playing, if you're playing
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  Speaker 2: them lower than the field, then you're able to get
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  Speaker 2: overweight on everything else you want pretty easily. So just
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  Speaker 2: looking at some ownership stuff, we have McCaffrey at twenty
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  Speaker 2: six percent up top. You know that could get closer
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  Speaker 2: to thirty. And then if it gets closer to thirty
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  Speaker 2: and you just play let's say you play half of that,
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  Speaker 2: you play fifteen, you're able to get over on Purty, Kittle, Jennings,
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  Speaker 2: whoever the hell you want. So you know, if not
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  Speaker 2: going McCaffrey, Purty is definitely my second favorite, but he
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  Speaker 2: is also the second highest owned. It looks like we're
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  Speaker 2: showing right around fifteen sixteen percent, but to me, it's
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  Speaker 2: just logical to go to him next.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to just chat on something real quick.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure of something. Yeah, this
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: is you know, our man Philly always out here had
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: another big week. He was in the takedown breakdowns, Horns said,
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  Speaker 1: three straight weeks, So shout out to Philly getting it done.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just on the point he's making. This is fine,
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  Speaker 1: Like if you can't figure it out after yesterday or not.
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  Speaker 1: You just everyone in general, Like it's just who You've
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: talked about this for so long, and I just always
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  Speaker 1: address it when I can. It's like the ownership thing. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: everybody was like fifteen to twenty percent or more. But
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: why didn't everyone have them together in the exact same
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy point lineup. It's because that's the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: whole point. Like Jamis was four percent, Wandale was seven
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: point seven, everyone else was pretty much fifteen percent up
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: to almost forty percent with Gibbs, like, people got to
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: stop moving off. People just to move off. You can
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: get different in other places. There's tons of ways to go.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: The reason Perty's comfy is because all the stuff we
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: just explained. It may or may not work out, but
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: it just makes a ton of sense. If DeVante Adams
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: can get two touchdowns last night and almost not be
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: needed up top with five catches and sixty three yards
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, Well, Juwan Jennings gets two touchdowns tonight
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and five for forty or something like that, it's not
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: to say he would be up top for sure, because
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: there's still McCaffrey, there's still If PERTY just spreads that
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: around to one other, touchdown to Piercel or one other
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: to Kittle or something like that. It immediately can hurt
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: those spots. They're all at similar price points, Jennings a
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: little cheaper, but just noting it it all those factors
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: matter together, so I'd worry less about that and the
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: rest of the roster in the construction as a whole title.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have anything you want to
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: add on that. I just think it's important to remember,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: like your exact point, you can get lower on somebody else,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: pick up on somebody else, get leverage that way, or
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: you can get different with the rest of your lineup.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And like I'm saying underway McCaffrey, I'm still
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: going to play some McCaffrey. And at the end of
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: the day, like it's twelve fifteen by me, the game's
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: for in six hours. I always wait for an actives
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: to build. But just right now, at first glance, I
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of guys that can get there
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: that are a lot cheaper than a guy that's going
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: to be one fourth owned that captain. I mean, if
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: he's not the optimal captain, that's one fourth of the
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: field down and yeah, that's just how I'm seeing it
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: right now. And on top of just the value being
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: really tough. So yeah, all.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Right, take us into running back then. I know we talked.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, do you want to actually
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: elaborate on I guess outside of the captain stuff, we
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: can elaborate on Bryce Young specifically if you want. The
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: guy had a career game last game. I did see
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the stat. I think it was forty one starts, thirty
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: five or thirty six of them were sub two hundred
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: and fifty yards, and then he goes out and has
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that massive game, which is a career game for him.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: But as we said earlier, sometimes it takes quarterbacks a
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: little longer to show up. Do you see something like
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that happening here? Can he push it enough? What's your
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: sort of thoughts on Bryce Young as a whole.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just a little concerned in the fact that
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: if he fully gets there, I almost think it's like
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: like last week, career game, but you would have needed
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Ted up top instead of Bryce Young, is Legett and Cocher. Yeah,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe he can throw one to all three of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: them and then it's Bryce Young. I think he's low
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: enough owned where if you're playing enough lineups, he should
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: be in the pool there seven and a half point dogs,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: so they could be chucking at all second half. Yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: what do you guys think? Do you think if he
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: gets there that it has to be tet or there's
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: enough options? Now, Sanders, I think I'm more talking myself
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: into it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: The more i'm talking, Yeah, I just look at the
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: stone and there's so many options that are highlighted that
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, if it is a multi, if it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: split on those guys, I feel like he's gonna split
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: it more. But we'll see. But if I like pretty
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: up top, I can kind of like him. I think
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I'll have both quarterbacks in play tonight for me. Whop
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: anything else?
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm Bryce wait, Bryce Young? Yeah, I mean just
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I don't like it. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: just he's had big games, but I just I don't
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be here. I'm just I don't think
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: i'll play him up top.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'll let you keep going. Then a title
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: if you want to take it away with anything else
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: on quarterback. Otherwise you can take us into running back
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: where it feels kind of like McCaffrey, huge gap, doubt
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: all big, really big gap, and then whatever you want
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to do with the backups. But I guess, like in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: a blowout script or something like that, you could see
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: other guys get in the mix.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna play Brian Robinson. I think he's
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: pretty strong. He's been getting a decent amount of more work.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I mean eight rushing attempts, eight five target the past
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: two games. He has fresh legs, and like when he
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: comes in, McCaffrey's already wore these guys down. I mean,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: he just goes up the middle. Touchdown equity on this
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: slate plus three thirty and that's above like leget Cocher.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Obviously Purdy's rushing, but I mean that's a pretty solid
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: touchdown prop when you're comparing to others on the slate.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So obviously McCaffrey and Rico two good plays like two,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: but forty four hundred, I mean give me Brian Brian
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Robinson all day granted. Owner or projection shows that ownership
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: shows that you can always play. I guess for the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: injury still feels really overpriced. Use check. I don't know
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: there's no one down there, but for most people watching
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: probably not playing a bunch of teams really McCaffrey, rico.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: But I do like Brian Robinson quite a bit.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: He always said Brian Thomas Junior place of Chewba Hubbard.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I might take injured Brian Thomas Junior over Chewba Hubbard.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: The way it's seen, that guy running like it's just
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: been bad.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm bad from both.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just pretty true. Actually it's a pretty tough scene.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Uh hoop, what do you think of the running back
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I think I like the Brian Robinson call, just because
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: again it's not even about to play as much as
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the slate and where we're gonna have McCaffrey be so popular,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: like anything that he steals could be valuable. And obviously
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you can play both together at that price, you can
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: play blow out scripts, except if you're not in on
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the Panthers showing up as much in this game, that
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: could be a possibility. What's your thoughts at the running
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: back position?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: So when you look at people in this price range
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like thirty four hundred and forty four hundred, I'm talking
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: about the backup, so we already you know, no need
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to really discuss McCaffrey and Rico anymore. I mean, we
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: know they're solid plays. We both we all kind of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: like them up top. You know, they're totally fine with
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: everyone doing the flex. But you start looking at like
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior and Hubba Hubbard their price right kind
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: of with the defenses, and you go to wide receiver.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: We've been able to find on recent slates a ton
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: of cheap wide receivers, a ton of guys in this range.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: It doesn't really exist on this slate. There's not much,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: so you're almost forced to at least take a look
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: at these guys. And for me, like if deciding, it
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: would definitely be Robinson Junior. He has a legitimate role,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: he's going to get some work. McCaffrey's so involved they
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: just have to give him breaks here and there, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: he's looked good, so fine with him, you know, Chubba
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Hubbard okay, and use check. I would definitely limit those
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: last two. I don't want a ton, but Brian Robinson
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Junior would be my favorite here. But you're almost forced
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to take a look at some of these guys just
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: because of the nature of the slate, and there's just
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: not a ton of overall plays like a lot of times,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: like I said, when we get to wide receiver, there's
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys we can look at. There's just
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: not much there on the slate, so you're kind of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: forced to take a look at these backup running backs.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely tricky. Usually we've had you know, at
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: least the last I feel like three to four slates
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: we've had wide receiver rule Otte with like you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: six options on it. It feels like and really hard
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to pinpoint it. Whereas here it feels like kind of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like these are the better options. And one thing I'll
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: just say to that, I guess it ties it all
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: back together because people are asking about like some of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: these guys in captain, like Brian Robinson, and who's the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: other one that somebody else mentioned? I forget it was
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: earlier someone mentioned somebody else that was cheap. Anyway, the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: point being, the cheaper captains are always going to lead
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to the more duplicated lineups unless you leave money on
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the table or get different with the spot where like,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: if the lineup lands on Jennings, instead of playing Jennings
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to fill it out, you put like DeMarcus Robinson and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: boom and see what happens. You have way less duplicates,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: way more risk taken on. But you know what you're
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: getting into when you do that. But it's like you
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: need a perfect storm almost to hit. And that's the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: other thing title. When you've got these wide receiver options
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: we're about to get to in a second, and you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: feel like, okay, there's two to three on this side,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: three to four on this side, whatever it might be,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you can kind of just use roster construction to your
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: advantage because like if you went to a Bryce young captain,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: way different already and now you've got options that are
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: comfortable with him if he was to go off, obviously,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like we said yesterday, a wote the hurt slide ups
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and they started strong and that fell apart, but if
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you needed that game to go and eventually how it went,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: but not enough to get there. But my point is
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: like you kind of know what you need. If you
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: have Bryce setting up the top, you can just flip Cocher, McMillan,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Piersol like these. If you make these guys captains, you're
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: already pretty different, and now you can sort of fill
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it out with the other stuff and you could still
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: have like a B Robinson inflex that way instead of
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: just using him at the captain saying but I can
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: fit everything, well, you still need everything to go perfect
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and then you're gonna probably be backed into a corner
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: with everybody else. Doesn't mean it's not good. It's just
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: why we typically don't like it as much. But yeah,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: take us into these wide receivers.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, receivers. So I mean Carolina's side tet is a
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: strong play. We keep talking about him. I really like
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Coker again on a slate where I don't love value
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: four k like, I like him over like it for
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: sure sixty four hundred. I will say, like in really
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: chalky lineups, if you want to get away to differentirate,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be low on like twelve percent for a
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: receiver that has two touch on upside or will be
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: on the field. Give me the price discount to Coker
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: when we need value though, and again great opportunity last week.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: So I like him quite a bit. I also like
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: DeMarcus Robinson, like more than Kendrick Bourne thirty eight hundred
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: born three K Robinson. Robinson out snapped him last week.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: He took him. He took it over by a decent bill.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Let's see Born twenty four percent of snaps Robinson like
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: fifty percent, so right there, Like I prefer them in
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: a back or like straight up. So you build a
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Bourn lineup, you dropped down to DeMarcus eight hundred bucks. Yeah,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I do think he's you can save it easy. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: do think he's higher own but still leaving the money
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: and getting a better play. In my opinion, I like
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Jawan Jennings more than Ricky Piersoll. I think Juwan's really strong.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: At seven K, just a guy like Ken Juwan Jennings
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: outscore Tet. Yeah, I think he can outscore Tet. It's
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: like a two and a half three point projection difference
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and you can lead twenty four hundred, So that just
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: shows right there you can do stuff. Yeah. I think
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: the receivers are decently strong, but it's not deep. I
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: like Juwan Tet to Marcus Cocher, a little bit of
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Ricky Piersill outside of that though, maybe like this Bryce
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: and Tremaine guy at one point two k. But yeah,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: you're really you're really hoping down there for like a
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: one touchdown and that'd be optimal.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like one of the points you brought
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: up there, and it maybe second nature for some, but
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's important. It's obviously what we stand by
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is trying to teach people how to play DFS is
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it's actually, you know, I don't know the best way
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to word it, but essentially, if you want to max
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: out your salary, the more you spend, almost the more
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you need to find leverage within some ownership or a roster,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: construction flip or something like that. But if you're leaving
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the money on the table, it doesn't matter as much
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that you're using people. Oh it's all the chalk. But
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: if you left fifteen hundred on the table and it's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: all good plays, then you're still better off. It's just
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you found a different way to use them. And most
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: people are spending all their money. So like you said,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in that example, well yes, you're actually doubling the ownership
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: probably on Robinson Overborne. It's you're leaving if you find
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: a lineup that has eight hundred more in it and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: then just drop it down from what could have been
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, that may in that case get you different,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: but it applies all the same. That's the exact math
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is thirty eight hundred to three k. If you had,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you know, a thousand bucks that you could get to
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and you leave it, then it's it's still leaving a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: thousand bucks on the table. So there's even more combinations
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that would fit within. So all those little things add up,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: especially in the game of Showdown, and it is why
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: there's still a pretty solid edge I think to this
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: game in general, who anything else you want to add
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: or I guess, yeah, take your shot at wide receiver
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever else you have there, and then we'll keep
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it moving.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not too much more to add. I mean, it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a smaller overall pool at the position than we've seen recently.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I guess the you know, the one thing that definitely
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: stands out is the lejet thing or look at however
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you pronounce the name. It's sixty four hundred coming in
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: pretty low owned. A lot of people are gonna play
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Cocer over him. I think, you know, for like a
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: leverage sort of play, he stands out. You know, just
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: this comment here, that's what everyone's That's what everyone's gonna
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: be thinking. He's twenty four hundred dollars more. But you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I definitely keep him in the pool and probably gott
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to force him in a little bit, but I think
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: it could be worth it. Jennings for sure stands out
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: to me as like the top play the guy I
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: want the most of in Flax and Captain, and his
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: seven K price tag is very fair, and I think
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of upside and he's looked good.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: He's looked good this year and then he got the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: fringe plays born and this Tremaine guy potentially title talk
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: time DeMarcus Robinson at three K. It's pretty straightforward. But
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Legitte stands out to me for sure is someone that's
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: gonna be low oaned and he's gonna be out on
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the field quite a bit.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. The payoff for probability thing that you brought
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: up there is key right. It's it's it's the reverse
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: of what title just said going the other way. And
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: again you could still have money left on the table.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: It's not to say spend it, but it's just a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: lot of spots there where you could go to Ligett
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and have him at a way lower ownership and he's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: caught touchdowns. He can definitely do stuff out there, but
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you're the price seems insane and like the comment said,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the props don't back it, but that's the whole point.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Like that again, you know what you're gonna get when
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you go that route. You can definitely there was a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: bunch of guys yesterday that didn't hit their props that
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you felt would same thing goes the other way. There's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: people like, holy shit, how did that guy do that?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: His prop was this and just crushed it. So it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: different on every slate, right, those numbers are set up
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for a reason. But just noting that, I think the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Jennings call is like if he has a feels like
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you can have like a Robinson type game from yesterday
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: we saw one Dale come out, get it done early
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and often. If that's the case, because that one's interesting
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: too tight, I'll let you go to tight end in
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a second. But just to close that one off, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: like your Robinson call. I let you know, I like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: hoops Jennings call. Piarsll for six hundred bucks more looks
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to be coming in a little less. I know last
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: game out it wasn't the best for him. It was
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: just you know, getting back into the swing of things.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: What do you think about Piersoll one more time?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I like it to be honest, I like
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: a good amount of these receivers. It's a tighter receiving pool,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: but I mean it's kind of good when when party
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: drops back, it's gonna go to one of like four
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: or five guys, and then Bryce Young it's even more condensed.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I think Cocher will get McMillan. So when I'm eating chalk,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: when I'm play McCaffrey up top, maybe I'm probably more
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: likely to play Lagett to get a little different that way.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe not play coke or just little things like that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna embrace, yeah, the all these receiving guys
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: because I think you can leave money with them at
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the end of the day. All these guys can outscore McCaffrey.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I'll say it. I mean a bad McCaffrey game. I
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: remember what whatever it was a couple of years ago.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Panthers like showdowns, Lady, he was like one hundred percent
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: own like fifty five percent on a captain. He got
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: like thirteen points. Like we see crazy things happen. So
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I just think there's a lot of upside in these
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: receiving rooms when they do hit their ninety percent outcome.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and before you go to tight end too. Like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I think another thing that was thought I was I
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: forget where I saw it today people were talking about
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it was how Bijon just smoked these guys and then
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: ted on the runback. So it's like if you put
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: CMC up Top just plug ted in on the other side,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I don't because we don't have a ton of value.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know how good that builds out without people
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like sort of landing in similar spots. So I do
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: foresee to your funny enough to your point is like
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: people not. That's another reason where they're not gonna land
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: in the middle, because they're gonna go CMC with tet
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Land whatever builds they can get. If it's good and
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: they like it and they're happy, they'll stop. But I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: think others are gonna be like, eh, that's a bit much.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Let me go CMC up Top, drop all the way
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to Cocher and then they're like, ah, now I got
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: money to spend. Versus if you can somehow find one
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that you like with Cocher in there as sort of
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the separator in between both. That's where it gets a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: little bit interesting because then you end up with a
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: different build based on him being lower owned, but then
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: also how you get to spend the difference on the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: rest of your money. So yeah, I like that call.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Little things like that that I try and pick up
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: throughout the show's help out. So let's go to tight
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: end title. We talked a little bit on George Kittle,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: but there's tight ends both sides of the field here.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So what have we got?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Panthers tight end situation, they rotate
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: quite a bit, and so I think all of them
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: are in play, and they're all cheap. So Jatavian Sanders
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: twenty eight hundred, Tommy Tremble twenty four hundred, Mitchell Evans
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: two k. Ownership wise, it's gonna go Sanders, then probably
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: half of that ownership's Tremble, and then probably a to
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: a quarter of that ownership's Evans. Props agree like the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: touchdown prop on Sanders plus four seventy five Tremble plus
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: seven fifty Evans plus twelve hundred, so and a lot
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: of that is like Sanders is a big body, they
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: like him in the red zone only a seventeen and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: a half receiving prop. No other props for the other
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: tight ends. We just don't really have value on the slate,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: and they're lower owned than the Brian Robinson kind of
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: like Tremble's a pivot. I'm going to play him in
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: lower or chalkier lineups. I'll play Tremble when I'm already
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: getting different. I think Sanders and just spending the four
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: hundred makes more sense. Evans is the more teams you're playing,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I guess, but you're just pretty much hoping for a
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: catch there, So that's not fun. Outside of George Kittle,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: like Luke Farrell, they just got they're fully healthy.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know why they're really throwing to Luke Ferrell,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: But what's his touch on prop plus twelve hundred If
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: you want to odds convert that seven percent, whatever that is,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: it's probably gonna is likely to score a touchdown if
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: your base that number is higher than his ownership. Big
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Marley and I talked about that sometimes, so it can
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: pay off.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I like the Tommy Tremble call. Anybody with
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the initials double T always with me. But I will
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: say I feel like he just gets involved a little
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: bit more. And I also see again, I don't know
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: what actually holds true for the ownership, but man, twenty
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: eight hundred. Sanders is great. Looks good on the stone.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Things are fine, but it's not like trembles that far behind.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And that's one of the things when I'm using the stone.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: If you're not a member at ship a Nation nineteen bucks,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it's literally the best time, by the way to get that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Not just a promo code. I'm just talking about using it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But Thanksgiving is on Thursday, so like Monday Thursday, plus
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: all the stuff leading.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Up for Friday. Yeah, got Friday right as well?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah great call. I just I use it for that reason.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And on Showdown is one where I'll just like let
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it trickle down a little bit. Like if you look
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: at you know, Sanders projection and his ceiling, and then
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you see his ownership, but you look right beside him,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: it's not yes, it's like half, but it's also the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: ownership is cutting half. So it's in something like that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: If I can just leave that four hundred bucks, I'm
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: fine with it. And not too many lineups are going
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: to land directly on Sanders, so it's more likely that
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it's like thirty two hundred left, and then I'm deciding
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: between all these guys I can't quite get to Brian Robinson. Fine,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to change up everything. He might not
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: even fit the build. I'm not in on anybody else.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: So Sanders fits perfectly and leaves a little bit of money,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: But so does Tremble and gets me even less duplicates
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that I'm up against. And you know that's what we're
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: trying to play for, right We're trying to win all
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the money when we win it so or as much
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: as we possibly can. That's kind of the kicker. So
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I like that call quite a bit too. Hoop back
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: from the bathroom break, I believe ready to rock and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: roll on some tight ends here. What do you got.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Actually opening the door for a little guy getting home
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: from school? But yeah, close, I.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Still can't get over that. Twelve thirty my time and
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: your your kid's crazy.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: He's done so damn early. That buss picks up at
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: like six fifty five, and yeah, he's home back home
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: by he's already actually just tuxted. He's already on the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: bus heading home. So they had it's pretty crazy. Uh yeah,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I mean nothing more really to add. I mean like
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: kittle and then I mean they're playing all these tight
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: ends to some degree. But yeah, I guess the one
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: thing that definitely stands out, like if the difference in
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: ownership with Tremble and Sanders is really going to be
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: that substantial, Like I mean, I think there's definitely some
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: opportunity there. We're showing ten for Tremble and twenty for Standers,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: so basically double the ownership and projection isn't all that
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: far off. So uh yeah, I like that as kind
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: of a pivot and then maybe throwing some evans, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: you know, not not super interested in that, but you
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: guys covered it pretty well.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the other guy, I guess that was in that
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: range when I was saying like three just my example
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: with three K, he's not a tight end. But like
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: title mentioned earlier with DeMarcus Robinson, he's a East three
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: K as well. So yeah, I think there's some some
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: value plays down. That's all. It saw how your roster
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: sets up tonight, especially for those that just build. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: know we always talk about our portfolios and m me
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I recognize many people do build, you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: one to five lineups. I mean you're just trying to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: get a sweat on or what does one good lineup
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: look like? You kind of got to think that stuff through.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: When you're building it right, you start at the captain
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: or whatever feels best to you and sort of how
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you can fit it in. I think that's another thing too.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Everyone does it differently. But if you want a McCaffrey captain,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you kind of got to figure it out and try
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and get there. But if you want McCaffrey ted kittle
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, Purty, and that's like your stuff
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: that you want to work, well, well, then you got
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to figure out how it fits and with what value
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: plays the best about when you're putting it together, because
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: if you're playing that way, you're playing that you're just
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: putting your money in good and going with what you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: love and putting your money behind that. So in that
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: case you might have to put kittle to the captain
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to make it all fit or something. But if it works,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: then roll with it. Don't play options you don't like.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: And sometimes these little tidbits or things we throw out
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: there could be ways to help you make it different
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and leave a little bit of money or at least
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: save in the ownership some that way. So ty hoop
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: all come back, I'll stay with you. Actually on Kickers
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and D's here in this game. How do you see
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: it sort of playing out from that perspective? What's your
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: thoughts on it?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to I guess either defense.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely prefer forty nine ers. I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: they're fine and honest slate where there's just not a
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: ton of overall plays like forty nine ers defense I'm
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: good with, and doesn't look like they're gonna be all
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that highly owned, So I do don't mind that, you know, Panthers.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: If I get some, I get some, and then I'm
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: definitely in on the kickers. I think Gay is a
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: phenomenal Gay is a phenomenal play about that, and then
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: this fitz Fitzgerald guy fine, but definitely definitely preferred Gay
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: over Fitzgerald. And then yeah, forty nine ers defense I'm
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: good with, so pretty you know standard, I guess for
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: me in terms of defense and kickers.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people are higher on the kickers tonight
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: than the d's title. Any any thoughts on that or
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: any any additional.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're probably right, and that makes forty
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: nine ers defense my favorite play because I can go
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: from Gay or Fitzgerald to forty nine ers d and
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: just leave a little that way. But Panthers, I just yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I mean I think they can they can fight, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: it doesn't feel nice going against I mean, full strength
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: San Fran team with McCaffrey back there, like they moved
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the football well. But one play we see it all
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: the time. One we saw it last night Sunday night football.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: One play changes everything hot and juggling it up and
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: down and this and that and yeah, so Titans another one.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: They're big underdogs, they're implied for fourteen points or whatever,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and they get a kick return touchdown. Their defense is fine,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: so yeah, random stuff happens.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I might even get a man just thinking about it. Now,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: why are they so? It just seems odd to me,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like defenses have been doing so well lately, people are
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: interested in them. Usually they're not really tonight for whatever reason.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And it's like it's not like the forty nine ers
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: have a good one. But it's also not like Bryce
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Young tet Lagette, and like nobody's jumping for joy over
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: these plays. Look at the chat, they're all talking about it, like,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you know, tet Coker. Coker is really a product of pricing,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: is why people like that? No, one's like a super
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you know, calls them the coke heads. They definitely exist
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: out there. There's some big fans of Jalen Coker, but
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: in general, I think a lot of people tonight just
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like his price and what it makes work with a
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: slate that's kind of starved for value, even though we
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: found a few on here, So maybe it's interesting. I'd
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: like to see what a forty nine ers captain looks
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: like tonight. As a secondary thought, now that we you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: have a spot where people want the Kicker not the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: D that could change some stuff up. It'll allow you
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to fit it, and I think he's I think that
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that D story is sixty nine hundred, which is nice
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: price up top, and you think about some of the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: other options in that range. Cocher six K. Yeah, I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: would definitely flip things a little bit. I'd be interested
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to see how that plays out. But they look like
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a one percent owned captain. So just on a final
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: thought there, I'm with whop. I like gay as the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: play and then I think it would be the you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Fitzgerald and just double kicker things like that the game
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't play out the way that you would expect. But
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I think forty nine ers are the most intriguing here
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: as a way to get different because McCaffrey will be
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: popular because rock Perdy, Kittle, et cetera, et cetera way
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: more popularity there.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: You.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I think the Panthers D would make sense from that perspective,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: But in the way I want to build is to
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: fit those guys with a low owned captain that could
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: still make sense and hurt the other side. I think
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the way I think about it. Hope,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to add, man or anything on
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the fandual side of things.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I was just looking through FanDuel and really themes,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you know. I know title will chime in too, but
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: it seems really similar. There's not much in terms of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: like pricing differences or anything. CMC thirteen to six and
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: then Purty twelve four, Rico than Bryce, than Tat in
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: terms of salary, then Kittle, Jennings, Piercels, so all kind
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: of in line, and then you go down to some
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: of the cheaper options and they're all kind of stacked
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: up in the same area. I will say, though, like
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: the cheap plays aren't as cheap over on fanduels so
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: roster constructions probably, I would say definitely is going to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: be much more difficult over on FanDuel. Just looking at this,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the cheap guys really aren't super cheap. Like Brian Robinson Jr.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Four hundred Cocher, He's four k on DK, sixty four
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel. They're all priced in the same range, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: it's just overall not as cheap DeMarcus Robinson four k,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Chubble Hubbard fifty eight hundred. So I guess the main
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: takeaway for me would definitely be roster construction is going
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: to be much more difficult on FanDuel opposed to DK.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the only one that stood out to
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: me was Robinson three K going to four K, but
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you nailed all the other ones where it's like a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: much higher jump. For Coker, for example, it's only a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars difference versus twenty four hundred over on DraftKings.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: So anytime I see something like that, it sort of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: makes me think about it. And then the Robinson one
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: jumps quite a bit two k so big one though
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers forty six hundred up to seven k,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: so FanDuel knows for sure. Title ending you want to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: add DraftKings or FanDuel.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just on top of hoops point like FanDuel. So
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I'm running like my top twenty optimals. There's legit some
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: teams that are full punting one k that are rejective
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: for like no points, like the like optims are give
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: me McCaffrey, give me Purty, give me, give me the
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: main guys, and I will fully punt zero with one
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: of them. It's not worth paying three K or four
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: k more to some of these guys, like the Brian Robinson.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: We're talking projection wise, so McCaffrey, it's really similar built
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: they're gonna jam studs. McCaffrey's the highest, but value really
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: is tough. So if you feel that people can outscore
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: McCaffrey straight up in a vacuum, you can either leave money,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: get on a different roster, stuff like that. Fando's tough.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's the case, I mean, then it's kind
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: of like the only options I really see as like
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: standouts would be the Tremble or Evans because they're both
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: way cheaper than Sanders over there, and I prefer Tremble,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and then the Robinson play at four K. Man it's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: maybe sky Moore at twelve hundred might have. And I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: don't even like them at two hundred that much because
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel like you need them on DraftKings.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: But I guess over there where you could kind of
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: use someone that you actually think might some how gets something.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I'm more Trevor Etm, Jimmy Horn, Kyle Check like use
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Check will be the highest of all of them because
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: he has somewhat of a real number because he's actually
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: on the field. But like we're playing tournaments, you're playing
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: for you're playing for first place, dude like that. Yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: any bit of ownership for us Check does not feel fun.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: No, true, But I will say that's a good pick
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: up because you know the chat with Olima, they're all
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: going to make fun of your favorite thing, which we've
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: seen on main slates recently, the double.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Dips, more be House and Kicks Bendel.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: They priced up the forty nine ers so you can't
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: even get the nice double dip because the forty nine
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: ers are seven k So you counter, you go against
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: everything you just did. But the other thing that you've
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: noted there that was key is us Check is fourteen
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: hundred on DraftKings. Only eighteen hundred on fanduels. So maybe
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: he's the key to unlock it and play it that way,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: because if you can take a zero, he could actually
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: get he can. I mean the dream world is you
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: get that sort of check down from perty for a
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: touchdown that you don't see too often, but you can
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: see it. If you get that, you're in great shape.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, if not, he might still at least give
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you something there, right, that's it. Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: But if you go use check and then you drop
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: check to Jimmy Horn and somehow horn out scores use check,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you could be looking solo shipping versus legit a twentyweight
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: chop like I like the use jack. It's Fando's a
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: really interesting game, there's no doubt about that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Today.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Tell me one thing you know about Jimmy Horn Junior.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Little skinny fellow that can that can make some plays
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: when he gets the rock.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Just one thing. Okay, you got it. I wouldn't have
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: been able to tell you much. I can tell you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that one twenty three years old. Okay, we gotta come out.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: If you get him the ball, he can do something
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: in space. The problem is there's just these guys don't
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: get anyone in the ball. I mean they didn't get
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: tet the ball the first like twelve weeks, so.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Crazy neck tat across Jimmy Horn and yeah, this is interesting.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe he's the guy.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna build some pandule laeups after this. I like
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the game quite a bit, like you know, like you said,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: it's just since they've changed it, it's made it so
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: much better. We've seen a more uniques as to be expected.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: But I do like the dynamics, and I love when
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: we go through the pricing at the end of the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: show just to sort of see the differences and get
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: some concepts and ideas because you know, mostly the same thing.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I was explaining this in discord yesterday on Classic Slates
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: because it's you know, if you got if you need,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the Jameis Winston stuff and all that. Like I think
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: our friend Dre I showed it off today or yesterday
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: in the discord of like the two lineups that won
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: our guy p Smith won a King of the Desert ticket,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and that lineup was like a one v one away
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: from the draftcar from the fan duel winner of like
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the main tournament. But that's you needed that little bit
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: of money that you couldn't quite afford it, so but
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: it still made it all work. So man, you know
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: who always knows everything? Tyler?
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah he does.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: He's so sharp because all guy at Colorado, all right,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young, Jimmy Horn Junior there.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Good for him. I mean, I will say, like the
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: computer that's broken at Lasia, dur Is moving out to
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: the right and throwing it down field like him over Gabriel,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: let's go.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: They did say they're gonna start like last choice, now
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you won?
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: And what about Jamis catching the ball putting in the
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: dirt like Jamis was having fun yesterday though that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say that that's what's nuts.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: People are gonna get Jamis all the credit. That was
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: a standout ship. But Gunner looked better under pressure as
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a quarterback than some of these freaking quarterbacks.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: That great.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: It's like shaking boys and getting out and then getting
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the throw off. And then Jamis did his work. I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: know he's of course gonna get all the credit, and
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: good for him. He did an amazing thing. But I
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: was just saying, that's not an easy play to pull off.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: And I've seen real quarterbacks getting paid millions and millions
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: of dollars, not shaking their dude like that when the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: defense is coming at them. So yeah, crazy stuff. That
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: was a very fun game. I said at the top,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I loved it. So Gunner looked
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: better than golf.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: For sure. Golf ducks. I'll stick to that, huh. Golfer George,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I would honestly take anyone at this
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: point over golf, anyone with somewhat some mobility. That's all
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I need is some mobility.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: And Effort doesn't have mobility, but he can escape.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: He escapes a little bit like that. That's kind of
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: like my main point with the golf stuff, Like you
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: just have to be able to escape pressure sometimes, like
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I get sometimes we're gonna get sacked. But every single
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: time with defense brings pressure and you just fold and
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: stand there like you're okay. That's where I might, I might,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I might try, I might, I might draw the line there.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I'll draw the line with JJ McCarthy. I'll take golf
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: over JJ. But you're gonna be hard pressed to get
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: me to take anyone else.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: But nine is so good field. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: now we're going like extreme stuff. So I mean I
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: would still be on like I'd still be on golf.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: There these are guys that aren't even gonna make it
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: on their current teams, like starting guys that are start
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: very fair.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: You maybe you would want Field. I don't know. Fields
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: had to deal with the Jets and with the Bears
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: before they got bent. I mean, I don't know.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I think I still off over Fields. But McCarthy, did
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: you guys see the stat He better off just spiking
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the ball than what he did yesterday from a pass
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: from the ratings? So wild, wild stuff? Jamis? You take
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Jamis right?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, hell yeah. Not Russell Wilson, No,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: definitely not Russ, but James.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: These guys are starting, They're starting Russ over Jamis week one,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And dark but like.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: And like how dumb these NFL. I mean, I guess
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: the guy got fired, but like everyone knew that guy
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: was a moron. Like, yeah, it is wild. There's some
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: of the decision making. It's still just absolutely Jaguars yesterday.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Any of you guys watched that game at the end
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: of regulation, he went for that on fourth and won. Dude,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: you have no time out? What are you doing?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: What are you surprised on the sidelines Like it's like, no,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you know what's going on here? Man? You're lost? Oh shit?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: What else? Oh yeah, I gotta shout this out, John
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: meg Nanni four three nine. I know, like it's not
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: government names, but I know who this is. Ninety three
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: dollars to two hundred k yesterday. Congrats, huge, huge day.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Gotta love to see that so it can greet.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awesome. Anything else, title, you got anything
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: else you want to add before no MMA? This week?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: You'll be often joined the holiday with the family for
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving week, so that's gonna be awesome for you
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: coming off a big MMA Saturday. Yeah, you're seemingly pumped
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: about a break even Sunday, So you'll take that in
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the NFL streets and get it done tonight in the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: showdown streets. We'll be back at it.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the goal. NBA still going on NHL for
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: people out there. College football obviously, Thursday Friday football. I mean,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of time to make money this week.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: So yeah, good luck and go Panthers.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, you're chair for that today. How many
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: people do you think you can see it?
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: K four of them?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: You mas have four or five something like that.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Just somehow pull it off. I just want to see
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: that go. Man, Just get it done.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: That'd be so nice on them in the big splash.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: That would get down to the one hundred range. If
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: if they lose, Oop's got a really good one. Yeah,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: we'll see nice.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Let's see how it plays out.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: That fifty nine yard kick. If you get it done,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: you gotta get that guy's jersey what's his name based? Yeah,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: good Jake based jersey.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: That would have been brutal because nobody had the line
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: lines are like fifteen percent owned in Yes, because no
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: one had them, and I saved him for that spot
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: and almost that would have been That would have hurt.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: That would have definitely hurt.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're still alive.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: If you're not in yet, I should bring that up.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Make sure you get in that splash. We got some
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: more stuff upcoming. There's another uh survivor, Like there's a
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: huge Turkey Day survivor. That's kind of cool. It's it's
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: got some interesting stuff, do it. I know our man
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: sheets is in the discord taking care of everybody that's
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: involved in that. But if if you look at the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: one coming up for this week, and you can get
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the fifty dollars deposit match bonus, so you can basically
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: get put fifty bucks, get one in for free, and
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: then do whatever you want with your fifty bucks. That's
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the way to do it. Use code ship it. But
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: it includes playoffs. And Hoop, I know you and I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: were talking pre show. Title is always down to chat
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: about it. He got in a little late to our conversations.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: He missed it. But you see that one title, there's
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: like a Turkey Day version right now.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: I'm reading about it right now.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah fifty yeah, yeah, I think so. And but like
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Hoop says, it's so good because it's like, you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: people are just gonna be jamming like all the best
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: playoff teams right now so they can get their win
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: and move on, and you could just play the teams
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: that you should, just play the teams that won't make
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and then have the have those available teams
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: to you. There's gonna be I think there's a pretty
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: good edge for that one right now. So I'm getting
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: into that one today as well.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Hoop.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts Man. We'll be back on Wednesday at
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: one pm Eastern you Blickel and myself special edition of
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Leverage Lane breaking down the three game. It's a bonus edition.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: We'll still have Leverage Lane on Saturday for the main site.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: We'll still have the Cash Show, I believe on Are
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you guys still doing the Cash Show on Friday? I
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: think yeah, And then we'll have the Sunday Show normal
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: as well. So all the rest of the content is
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the same, but anything you want to add here hoop
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: before we got here.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Now, good luck to everyone. Big week coming up, I mean,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: so much fun with the Thanks to Giving games and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: then we've got the Friday game. So it's an action
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: pack week starting tonight and all the way through. So
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I looking forward to it and good luck to everyone tonight.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I also think Ham and Nate's the old
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Ham and Nate's Special gonna be back for the Black
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Friday Showdown show, so we'll have that as well. All
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the content up on the site early, we got everything
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: sort of switched over already. We'll get after it today
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: once everything gets out of the way with the Carolina
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers stuff. The pricing just came out first
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: thing this morning. And by the way, if you haven't
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: checked too great contests on FanDuel, they came out early
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: for once over DraftKings, but then DraftKings must have heard
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the complaints about the five dollars versus the forty four
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: to forty four Mega and sort of nothing in between.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: They loaded it up in between. We post them in
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: the discord this morning, all the options if you go
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: have a look. Now there's like a sixteen dollars five
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: max that pays twenty K to first, ten K to second,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: five K to third. Like really good contest, so check
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: it out. We'll be back with more shows for you
• 50:59
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