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Fearlessly Predicting the Debut of Mercedes Mone | AEW Big Business Preview · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for ignition with a
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w fan hubb. I'm Kelson and I'm Alex and we're gonna get right into
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it. We got big Business coming up tomorrow, Big Business. Tony Kahn
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has promised it tonight. That's going to change the face of wrestling. I
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don't remember his exact words, but I think that's what he said. Yeah,
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yeah, And you know, Tony Kahn never exaggerates, No, absolutely
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never. It was one of his biggest announcements ever, big business. I
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mean, yeah, and we so we've already had Will Osprey show up,
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We've had Okada. This is going to be his first match against real opponents,
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not jobbers like on Collision, and we're getting I mean, we have
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to assume that we're getting Mercedes Monette debuting tomorrow. If Mercedes Monet does not
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to be tomorrow night, somebody is going to die. You know, it's
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just as simple as I mean at this point, still, at this point,
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the only way to make it a surprise would be to not have her
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debut. That's the only way. Can you imagine Twitter if she does a
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debut tomorrow night? Oh god, Oh Brad Reddit. Yeah, but Twitter's
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I mean, redd it could be bad, but Twitter is assessful, man,
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you know that. Yeah, yeah, I avoid Twitter. But maybe
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they should wait till like ten oh one to the overrun to debut Mercedes Money,
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just to make it actually surprising. Anyway. I think we want to
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fantasy book our own ideas or potential thoughts. I mean, my idea is
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not something that I actually think is gonna happen, but yeah, I guess
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I'll lead with this is how I think they're gonna debut Mercedes Monette. And
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I don't know if I think is the right word. This is just my
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fantasy. I'm allergic to thinking myself, So don't feel bad. Go ahead.
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Yeah, it may be very stupid, and it is actually very stupid.
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Anyways. So there's one woman's match on this show, Willow Nightingale versus
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ReHO. We saw ReHO versus Statlander last last week, dat Lander refused to
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cheat to win the match versus ReHO, and she lost. I think that
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Willow Nightingale is going to win the match because of Stokely Halfaway doing something bad.
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Okay, you know he's gonna distract the ref. Maybe, I don't
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know if you'll actually hit ReHO. That would be extra crazy, but yeah,
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something's gonna happen. Willow Nightingale's gonna win because of something not fair happening
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to Rejo. And then my prediction is then Chris Statlander gets in Willow Nightingale's
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face. Oh yeah, so so then you know, Willow Nightingales maybe playing
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like she didn't realize what happened, and Chris Statlander's upset with her for beating
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to win or allowing Stokely to cheat for her, and then that's when we
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get Mercedes Monet debuting, and then she actually joins forces with Willow Nightingale to
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team up against Chris Statlander. Willow turns heel. They have like a new
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Mercedes Monee Willow Nightingale Stokely Hathaway faction. And then and then after beating up
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Chris Statlander together, then Mercedes nail cutter promo on why she's in a w
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and what the future is gonna hold. So that's my pardiction. Well,
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do you think that Chris Statlander will then get a partner? Yeah? Yeah,
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I think this is gonna be like a way to lead to a women's
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tag team division. Okay, but I'm gonna put you on the spot.
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Who's Chris Statlander's partner going to be? Hoo? Yeah, I guess it
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has to be. I mean I wanted to say somebody that's like the same
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size as Chris Statlanders, so they could be like the female Twin Towers,
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but I guess the opposite, the biggest in the littlest women women on the
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roster teaming up. That could be cool. That could be cool. Chris
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Statlander could throw Rejo around like Sirpentaco and Luther. Oh all right, all
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right, well let's uh, let's go to m K get his fantasy booking
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of Mercedes Monnet and how he thinks she is going to debut. You know,
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as long they're very fifty to fifty on on their debuts. Sometimes it's
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just hey, here's a new person, and sometimes it's it's a big like
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Adam Coles, Brian Anderson Ward, So you never know what you're gonna get
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with debuts. I honestly would have somebody call, you know, I want
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somehow to be this. They're this big brawl, but you know they just
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say on the beast and it comes out and all this stuff and that's the
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last Mercedes Monette comes out, and uh, between them, all the wrestlers,
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just all of them try to claim that they're the best, and the
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whole roster. Okay, yeah, the whole woman's rough, I guess.
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Okay, yeah, I don't want to see it coming. Thing so many
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times they they know who's coming, So I would love for just to be
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a big surprise. Okay, So let's go to Sutton and get his take
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on the debut of Mercedes Monet and what it could be. I'm kind of
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was thinking the same thing as alex Is, except for one difference. Mercedes
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was injured against Willow. That's how Willow won the start. Whatever the title
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was for you was so strong. Championship. They kind of have unfinished business.
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I mean they really do, because Willow beater. It wasn't it wasn't
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the ending that was supposed to happen, I don't think, but injuries.
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So they kind of have a little bit of a a thing there. There's
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there's it comes down to you. You could include the champions if you wanted
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to. In her debut, depending on which way they want her to go.
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Tony doesn't have anybody left inner thing really other than a turn by the
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girl her little fan fan club, and you still have the Willow wanting to
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go after the TBS title so or the which I my brain's not working today,
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by the way, So it just depends on how they want to do
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it. I like what I said. I figure there's gonna be something happened
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in that match because that's the only women's match there. There's still an outside
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chance that was a Julia, the girl that she has the thing running with
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from from Japan and start them. Yeah. Yeah, so there's still an
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outside chance that that could be a surprise match that happens. I mean,
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that's that's something that everybody wants to see happened. So with Ton, you
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never know, that's the whole thing about it. You could have that match
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be thrown in because you don't have what five matches tomorrow so far in a
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two hour show. Yeah, and I think there's gonna be a lot of
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stuff going on tomorrow, So I think so too. I think I know
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another debut that's gonna happen, but we'll talk about that a little bit.
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So yeah, but it's gonna be very interesting how they go. But I
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think it's gonna be a Willow Nightingale. There's I think Current and Stytland you
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are going to be involved in it, But I think it's gonna be the
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opposite of that. I don't think they're gonna team up. I think it's
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gonna be to finish what was what they started kind of thing. Okay,
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so let me give you my breakdown of what I think is going to happen
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in my fantasy booking. And it's a little bits kind of three steps,
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so maybe a little lengthy, but I'll try to keep it as brief as
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possible. The show starts and somebody comes out that somebody is doctor Britt Baker
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d. She comes to the ring and she just starts complaining, saying that
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she is a pillar of the company and that before she got injured, she
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wasn't allowed to even make a promo on TV. She hasn't done a promo
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on TV in a long time, which kind of plays into what she was
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saying on Twitter. You know, it's kind of cafe, but it's kind
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of to her story. Okay. So she basically gets out there and she
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says that she is now back and once she is cleared, because she has
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not been cleared yet, she could probably say something like I'm seeing Doc Samson
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in two days, you know, and he'll tell me whether I'm clear or
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not. But once I'm cleared, I'm going to take back my place at
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the top of the women's division. And at this point that Serena deeb comes
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to the ring and says that she is the top of the women's division.
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She is the final Boss, which is reminiscent of what she said in the
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ring the last time she was in the ring. And at this point this
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is when Jamie Hayter comes out to the ring and now and announces that she
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is cleared, and both Hayter and Baker take out Serena deep that that's that,
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which finally brings us to Willow Nightingale and Chris Statlander coming to the ring
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and they have a stare down with Baker and Hayter, you know, yelling
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at each other, pointing to each other. And finally this is when Mercedes
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Monette comes out and she stands fielder to shoulder with Willow and Statlander facing down
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Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter. But then in a swerve, Monette takes out
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stat Lander and Willow. Of course, with the help of Britt Baker and
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Jamie Hayter, and the three of them meaning Hater, Baker and Monette stand
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in the ring and proclaimed him say to themselves the women's Elite, Oh thank
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you very much. I'll be here. And you almost lost me. You
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almost lost me turning the show off with that, with that, Yeah,
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so, I you know, because it's kind of you look at it,
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it's kind of reminiscent. My thing is with with the way Monette turns.
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It's kind of reminiscent to the way Yokata turned and became part of the elite.
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Now you're gonna have the women's elite, and now you have a ready
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set thing with that trio going against Willow Statlander and Deep. Keep in mind
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that Mercedes Bonet has not wrestled in the matchins When was it. She got
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injured May of last year, So no, she has wrestled, and last
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time she wrestled was against Willow Nightingale when she lost lost that championship. I
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believe it was in May. I could be wrong, of course, because
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I almost always am, but you know it would be smart for because her
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injury was considered career ending at one point, so it would be smart for
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her to wrestle in a trio's kind of the you know area at first,
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just to get you know, her sea legs or ring legs under working out,
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you know, so, and who better than I mean, look,
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Deep is fantastic, fat Lander and Willow are good wrestlers, you know what
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I mean. Who better to have good matches without having crazy stuff happening that
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could risk injury than those for you know, those people in there. You
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know. So that's that. Yeah, So I really like that, Kelson,
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just because now you're like throwing everything into ignition or whatever, like you
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are now reintroducing two three big main event women, and they're kind of short
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on real main event women. I feel like, yeah, really yeah,
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yeah, I mean when you look at it, I think the whole point
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of Mercedes Monette coming is to show more focus on the women's division. And
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what better way of getting more focused on the women's division and to have a
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crapload of women and a story out in the ring and the first thing in
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the on the show, you know what I mean. And she's the one
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thing that Monet has said, and I believe it was on Twitter, she's
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not there, She's not coming there to build the division. She's very much
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against that being part of her responsibility and it's not. I mean, it
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should be everybody's thing. The only only thing I have wrong with your thing
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there, and I got someone to swap out for you instead of Baker because
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you know how I feel about Baker that she doesn't fit that group at all.
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She's not inclu not be included in that group. But you're leaving Sheet
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off, and she is one of the better women in the division. So
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I'm thinking instead of Baker and Monette and the other one that you said,
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throw Deep in with Baker with the hater and Monette and bring Sheet out with
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Statlander and Willow because when when this was all going on and they were the
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before Baker got hurt and they were doing the the outcasts, it was those
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they were they were kind of teaming up then, so you kind of put
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it back together where it kind of left off in that and this would I
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mean, that's a that's a great plan. I just don't like the Baker
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portion of it. Yeah, we also know to your to your plan,
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Uh, she'da Deep have history, right, so that's why you have Willow
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and think I mean, it really would be a great I love the idea.
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I just don't know if if if there just seems like something that Tony
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doesn't really I don't know if it's if he doesn't like the women's division or
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he just doesn't have time for the women's division, and that's why it's behind.
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It's not promoted as much as people want it to be, or it's
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not used as much. You know. I still for me, I personally,
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I've got like four or five that I like to watch, and the
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rest of them they can even live without. Well, well, look to
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your point, you know, Yes, yes, Monette did say that it
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wasn't her responsibility to you know, promote the women's division. However, it
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was reported when the contract was supposedly signed. It was reported that when Monette
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signed a contract, her conditions were she wanted to wrestle, and when she
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wasn't wrestling, she wanted to be able to do a promote a promo.
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Okay, and on the nights and on the nights that they have their shows,
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she wants at least two women's matches on every show and or a lengthy
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storyline promo, you know, because she wants to further the women's division going
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against what she posted on Twitter, which was probably totally kfabe. Don't just
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take that with a grain of salt. So Alex, let's move on.
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Look, we're talking big business here, and great, the Mercedes Monet debut
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is going to be big, but that can't be the only thing that happens
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in big business, you know, in the terms of you know, debuts,
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returns, a major storyline that comes out, you know, So let's
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talk what do you think maybe some other surprises that are happening at big business
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other than Mercedes Monet. Mm hmm, yeah, So I guess my this
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may be my hopes more than what I actually think is going to happen,
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and it kind of is not in the vein of what I think big business
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should be, which is focusing on the women, focusing on Mercedes, hopefully
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Jamie Hayter, like some big names coming back, or maybe even more surprises
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like jew Leah. But yeah, that's not what I'm predicting kind of what
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I'm hoping for because I'm missing him. It's been almost yeah, like almost
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three months now, two and a half months. MJF. I'm hoping MJF
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returns. I have no idea the context I'm actually thinking there's a chance that
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Wardlow wins the title from Samoa Joe. Maybe that after that match could be
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an opportunity, or maybe he interferes and costs Wardlow the match. But yeah,
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I'm predicting their their triumphant return of MJF. Wow. Yeah, that
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is very close to what I'm predicting. But I'm going to take it a
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little bit further and I will reveal what I'm going to say after MK and
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Sutton get their chance. So MK, let's go to you. What do
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you say are going to be other surprises or whatever it is you want to
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talk about? Author de Mercedes money at Big Business. Well, I hate
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to be a copycat, but I really think there's gonna be a major crack
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in the undisputed Kingdom coming up because I do not I don't see Wardlow winning.
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He's not ready for that, and I've heard a lot of talk about
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it, and I would love if I was fantasy booking it. I would
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love for some I know Hammerstone just got signed to TEENA, but I know
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there's another guy out there who who has a past with m JF with Dynasty,
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and I think that's why they're going to call us next thing dynasty as
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well. MJF will come out, This new guy will come out, and
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then afterwards m JF will come out and he'll presume we'll probably like what Cole
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is doing where he's not ready to wrestle yet, but he'll I'm out and
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say I'm back and I'm going after you. Well, who's the new guy?
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I can't remember. There's a dynasty and there's a new there's someone sure?
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Richard Holiday? Yeah, yeah he was. Actually he appeared on Dynamite.
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They had a video of Orange Cassidy fighting Richard Holiday in rev Pro I
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think in the UK, so like two or three weeks ago he appeared on
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screen on Dynamite. So maybe maybe that's a hint. I don't know.
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I was I was hoping they get Hammerstown. But yeah, I guess he's
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the more interesting one because he's a huge jack kid dude. And yeah,
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he reminds me a lot of of here's the dude broke his leg off the
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top route? Uh? Did he looks just like said Vicious? Just a
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smaller version I always thought he did. Anyway, Okay, well let's go
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to you then, what do you think other de Mercedes won name. Do
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you see any other surprises happening at Big Business. I like the returns.
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I love to see MGF comeback. Yeah. There's been talk of one free
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agent that's still out there who I personally think was so misused in the WWE
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and would be a perfect fit with a couple of different people in aw the
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Shelton Benjamin. I know he's been talking. They say that they're talking to
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you. I believe they say they're talking to him. I think Shelton Bendersman
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is one of the most talented people that never got used anywhere near how he
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could have been. You know, he could to me, he could have
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been as big as the Rock or any of those guys because he had so
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much talent, but they never used him right, And I think he would
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come in if he would come in, And some guys we haven't seen for
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a while, they there's a couple of guys that he could work with.
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My brain's not working right now, guy uh that with him and Sky together
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would be a huge team. They could go that way because the tag team
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thing is coming up. So there's a couple of things you could do with
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that. Private party Yeah, well yeah, private I mean there's there's such
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a huge amount of things that you could do with Shelton Benjamin and if you
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use him, if they come in and they give him a chance to do
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what he could do. I know he's been around for a while, but
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there's so much potential to that kid that he really could be huge. He
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could work with Swerve. I mean, there's just a lot there. I
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would love to see that Baker coming back. I can see it. I
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don't know. I don't know though, because there's there's a couple of different
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ways they could go with her. She could be with her Man and go
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with the United Kingdom and do something with them. The problem with the thing
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with deeb on that with we were talking about earlier, there's been talked that
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the BCC wants to add a woman, and she was the name that came
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up for that. So, I mean, there's there right now. That's
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one of the great things about aw there's so much that's going on right now
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and so many things that could happen that we could do this for the next
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ten hours and never get it all done. Yeah, you know, to
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your point though, you know, if they say okay, Srina Deep goes
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to the BCC. Then you have baby Mercedes joining the elite. Could have
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that, you know, so you know, one way or the other,
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I think Mercedes Bonet, Mercedes Bonett is going to be elite doubly over tomorrow
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night. Oh man, that's just crazy to think about. Yeah. So
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the Jackson's Oh good god, almighty. Yeah. So so let me my
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surprise goes along with the whole MJF thing. But here's my little twist on
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it. And I agree with what you guys said about MGF, but I
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think MGF is going to come out. Look, the Ward Samoa Joe match
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is the main event, and we already know we're getting an overrun tomorrow night.
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So I think during the overrun, MJF will come out and he will
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talk about big business. He's gonna say unfinished business, and he's going to
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say that the Bidding War twenty twenty four. Guess what I have unfinished business?
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I need you know. Wardlow has been running his mouth, Samoa Joe
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doesn't deserve his championship, blah blah blah. And he brings out a clipboard
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and he signs it and he says, now the business is finished. I
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just resigned a multi year deal with AW. When I come back. He
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points up both of them and says, you're both mine, and that's that.
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That's the how to show end. That's my prediction is that MGF will
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sign a new contract publicly with AW tomorrow. Interesting. Yeah, I like
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you. Gives me goosebumps. Yeah, I just I just made Daddy Magic's
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nipples hard. Anyway, and look, a wild sleazy c has appeared.
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Welcome back, buddy. Yes, it's great to be back Calson after two
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and a half months. Yeah, well, you know, college edumacation and
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all that keeps you away from the fun stuff, the important stuff like AW
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fat podcast. Anyway, you wanted to talk about the new Dynamite presentation,
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so have at it. What's on your mind? Yes, I felt that
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it was very important to talk about this, especially since it's only just happened
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a few weeks ago. I mean, here's the thing. Our last rebranding
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happened little less than a year ago, and now we're doing it again.
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Now. The first thing I want to bring up, at least with the
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branding is the logo. And here here's the thing I say about the logo.
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Kelson recently made a funny little thing on our aw fan hub reddit where
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it was like go go aw fan hub or something like that. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, And that was a funny joke. And that's what I
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say, and that's what I sum up the logo to a joke. It
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sucks it, yeah, it. It just drained something out of Dynamite that
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had always had and had that you know, Rebellious. You know that Rebellious
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charmed to it with its street light logo. Now, as for the other
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parts of the presentation of the show, when I saw the tunnels, I
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was like, wait, is that a special entrance for Kenny Omega. Like
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the whole new branding thing just feels like it's something mandated for Warner Brothers,
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unless something that Tony Kaha actually wanted to do. But I want to get
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all your guys' opinions on it with che Collis first. Yeah, sure,
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I'll chime man. So I don't hate the new logo. It's maybe not
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my first pick. It's maybe a little too colorful for a wrestling show.
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It's not really gritty, but I don't I don't hate it, and I
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do like the idea of switching it up once a year, treating it like
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a new season of Dynamite. And if they do that every single year,
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you're gonna like some, you're gonna hate some. But I'm not. I'm
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not super against that part of it at least. Well, MKA. Do
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you like the new logo and you like to do presentation? I love it.
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I think it brings I think it makes more upbeat, makes you know
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that the big show going on going on. You know, we grew up
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with the WCW nitro logo, which is kind of gritty and stuff. I
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don't think all things have to be gritty and cool and dark, and it
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likes of the sage. I love the lip tunnels a little better and it
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just makes me feel like, Okay, something's gonna happen, something's gonna be
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fun, and we're gonna see action. Uh, you know it can't be.
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You know the plenty of shows that have the dark stuff, like The
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Ring of Bonner, I never care for their interest in so I like the
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colors and it and it makes up pop more right well sudden, I mean,
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because we seem to have a little bit of a two guys to on
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over sleazy right now. He doesn't like it, sutting them Alex kind of
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like it. What about you? I personally, I really don't pay attention
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to the logos very often. I just tune in, I don't, you
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know, unless it's something major like a pay per view, I don't pay
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that much attention to it. You only you really only see the entrance.
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There's the new tunnels and stuff. If something's going on at that up by
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the entrance or when they bring people in. So I really don't pay that
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much attention to it, to be honest, I've never seen that big a
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deal about uh entrances and those kind of things. If it's if it,
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if it, you know, I know it was Tony Cohen's idea because with
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the was it was what was it? Uh? Because they said the last
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pay per view revolution was going to be the end of that. It was
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going to start something new come this week, so you know, or the
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new the next thing was going to start a new season. So that's what
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he did it. I think I figured, Yeah, you know, Sleezy,
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you know when uh I made that post about go Go Power Rangers on
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the new logo, a lot of people chimed in and said that the new
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logo kind of reminded them of the Dorrito's bag. And I'm gonna be honest
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with you, I've noticed that since i've been looking at this logo, because
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I've been, you know, using the logo in aw fan hub graphics for
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Dynamite and whatnot, I've been purchasing an incredibly higher amount of Doritos that I
30:33
normally do. You know, that's the that's their new that's their new.
30:37
Uh they got a new marketing deal with there you go. I mean,
30:44
well, honestly, that could make it ten times worse because I freaking hate
30:49
But before I know, you have to leave sleezy, But before you go,
30:53
say something you do like about the new Dynamite presentation. Is there anything
30:57
you like? What about the new music? The Oh yeah, I forgot
31:03
to mention the music. I'm gonna be honest. At first, I didn't
31:07
really like it because I felt like there was too much techno in it,
31:12
Like it still had that rock and feel that the old theme did, but
31:17
there was too much techno adding into it, like like like I had a
31:21
good groove going, but just too much techno. But as I listened more
31:26
and more to it, it still had that problem, you know, like
31:30
it was still there, but it just I at least was able to,
31:36
you know, musically, say it's okay, it's okay. I just you
31:41
missed the light diffuse. Hell yeah, Like, and that's the main thing
31:48
for me. Why fix something that ain't broke? Yeah, that I have
31:52
to admit that. That's if that was a weakness, I would say it's
31:56
the music. And the music's good, don't get me wrong, but it
32:00
just doesn't have the punch, yeah that the old old music did, especially
32:05
since it doesn't have light the fuse. Yeah you heard light the fuse?
32:09
You were ready to blow something up? Yeah, you're just ready to watch
32:14
it wrestling on TV. Yeah. We could even have exploding barbed wire death
32:19
matches. But you can't like the fuse. Yeah, nobody told me to
32:24
light the fuse, so it doesn't work. Yeah anyway, go ahead,
32:31
go ahead, don't go go. Collisions intro is much better. I love
32:38
I'm not for fighting. I love that one. That one gets me cammed
32:42
up. Yeah, I have it been stuck in my head constantly because of
32:45
that. Yeah. At least Collision kept their old themes, so that's that's
32:50
a good thing. But we're mainly talking about dynamite here overall, not really
32:53
a fan of the new presentation. Oh well, darn, I tell you
33:00
what anyway, Look Sleazy, I know you gotta go. Thank you for
33:04
stopingbye. We really appreciate it, and hopefully we will have you back real
33:08
soon to do some proper shows with us. Yeah, I know, and
33:14
I can't wait to come back and eventually talk about the FTW Championship and Jungle
33:19
Boy could of stant again. All right, buddy, you take care.
33:24
All right, you two have a good night, guys. Good night,
33:30
So Alex, let's talk about aw Dynamite passed the whole Mercedes Monet and MJF
33:39
and Jamie Hayter and Britt Baker and Shelton Benjamin and whatever else will happen.
33:45
We got a match guard for tomorrow night. Which match do you want to
33:49
talk about? First, Buddy, let's lead with Darby Allen versus Jay White.
34:00
That's an interesting match, and I guess it's Darby's possibly last match,
34:04
at least last match before he climbs Mount Everest, and it's got to be
34:09
leading. I mean, J White's probably gonna win here if Darby's gonna be
34:16
leaving, and j White is supposed to be a big deal, right and
34:24
I don't know, Like, I guess it's gonna have to play into the
34:29
acclaimed bang Bank Scissor Gang story. Like I'm I think it'll be a really
34:35
good match. But yeah, just I'm curious what you guys think about,
34:40
like what what's going to happen in this match? Well, Alex, let
34:43
me ask you a question. You know, because I've seen a lot of
34:45
people posting, especially even on our aw fan Hub subreddit, that they think
34:51
that they're going to write Darby Allen off by injuring him, having j White
34:57
injure him, which kind of doesn't make it sends to me because everybody of
35:00
their mother knows that Darby Allen is taking He even said it. He's taken
35:05
a couple months off ago climb Mount Everest. That's how he's getting written off.
35:08
I don't understand why people think that, you know, Jay White would
35:13
injure Darby Allen. But do you think there's a chance that they k fabe
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injured? No, I don't. Yeah, I think it doesn't make sense
35:22
because even Darby Allen, I think last week or two weeks ago, said
35:25
he's leaving to climb Mount Everest. Yeah, we don't need to make it
35:30
any more dangerous, and what can you do to injure Darby Allen? Is
35:37
the question running over with the truck. Yeah, you would have to get
35:40
a chain sign, so I wouldn't think that his kryptodite is probably something stupid
35:45
like a roll of Sharman or something. Are you allergic to be things?
35:52
Oh? No, not the Charman. He's allergic to spinach. So so
36:04
okay, what are you thinking about this match which we Darby ala Jay White?
36:09
Is this the opportunity to get Jay White over? Yes? It is.
36:15
He needs something after not when after not winning a Continental Classic, and
36:20
he needs he needs a big win, and Darby will gladly put him over.
36:24
I don't know if those who have much history or if they've even had
36:28
a Burnley matches together. For Oh okay, I just think Darby's gonna put
36:35
him over and he's gonna win. I don't want to see any kind of
36:37
beat down or anything like that. I just want to see Darby loose and
36:43
go on to do things and and Jay White just to finally come out and
36:49
have a big win and announced he's not gonna stop there, He's gonna keep
36:52
on going, and maybe announced he's gonna go for a belt for once.
36:55
M hm, okay, well, Futton, what are your thoughts. I
37:04
honestly don't see any use for this match. I mean, besides having two
37:07
guys that haven't wrestled before wrestle. You've got so much going on with Jay
37:13
White, with the Bang Bank Scissor Gang. There's a lot there that's going
37:16
on. I don't see I mean, other than the fact, like I
37:19
said, that it's going to be a match that they've never had before.
37:22
It can get White over. But j White, I mean, aside from
37:27
the fact that he spent most of his career in Japan and a lot of
37:31
people really still don't know him that much. He's still a big guy.
37:36
I mean, people cheer for him. I don't think you can really pretty
37:38
much more over than he is. I just I honestly think this is just
37:43
one of those matches that they wanted to get on there to get two big
37:45
names in. I don't know, I just don't see it being any meaning
37:51
to it, and there really isn't any meaning, especially since Darby is going
37:57
to be leaving to go climb out Everest. But I, like I said
38:00
before, and I don't know if Alex you can chime in here, But
38:04
I just think this is the opportunity for Jay White to put I mean,
38:07
Darby Allen to put over j White. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
38:12
And then Darby's awesome at putting people over, like he makes everything look so
38:17
real when he's getting beat up. So I think it's just gonna be like
38:22
a fantastic match. It's kind of like a little bit in the vein of
38:24
Takeshta Osprey, just two guys that I think it could be the biggest match
38:30
of the night. To be honest, it really could be. But I
38:32
just to me, it's just you know, I see him putting him over,
38:36
but I just don't see the purpose of having it. I mean,
38:38
it just doesn't seem like a match that fits the bill, you know what
38:43
I mean, for big business. Okay, so let's move on, uh
38:49
to the match that I don't think that there's any point in having, Alex.
38:52
I don't know how you feel about it. Let me get Yeah,
38:55
it's Jerick Chris Jericho versus A Kates of Agne. I mean, look,
39:02
I just dying to hear what you guys have to say about this match.
39:07
I have my own thoughts, but I'll save it to the end. Go
39:09
ahead, Alex, I, Okay, I just feel kind of sad or
39:15
like we're getting a version of Chris Jericho where it feels like he's given up.
39:22
Like Chris Jericho is a guy who, for like twenty years just would
39:25
reinvent himself, reinvent himself, even in aew He's had you know, Jericho
39:31
appreciation Society in your circle, all these different versions of Jericho, and now
39:37
it just feels like he doesn't care or something. He's just the guy with
39:40
a leather jacket that comes out with a bat. Yeah. Yeah, not
39:46
in a good way like Sting, right, yeah, yeah, exactly,
39:51
He's not old enough to be in the sting phase. He's just in this
39:54
period of like just leave for six months and wrestling purgatory. Yeah, come
40:02
back with a mask or something. Weird, that dude doing something new.
40:07
But yeah, it just makes me kind of sad. And yeah, well
40:15
yeah, so mkay, are you even the slightest bit excited about this match.
40:24
I'm not excited about this match because I love Chris Jericho, and that's
40:30
and there's way too much Chris Jericho's slander for a guy who basically helped build
40:36
this company, and so I think he's at a phase where he just wants
40:39
to help out. But a lot of people have said, hey, I
40:43
don't want to see very many Jericho's storylines, and he stepped back, and
40:46
people are still upset with him because he's not He's doing something, but you
40:52
know, he's trying to step back. I think in the next few years
40:54
he's going to retire, and I think this is his way of getting back
41:00
and helping, you know. I like some of these matches he's had with
41:04
the Lucer Liebret guys in CML, mel In ll whever. I just pronounced
41:10
that, But I I think there's a lot of slander and the man just
41:15
wants to put aw on the map and keep it there, and he's done
41:20
so much, but people just do not like what he's putting down. So
41:29
yeah, that's my thot. Okay, well something, What do you think
41:31
about this? I kind of I kind of agree with m K, but
41:37
it's just there. I thought they were going on tour and thought that that
41:43
fas he supposed to do, like a European tour here in the next month
41:45
or so, and he'd be gone for a while, and that didn't seem
41:47
to happen because I thought it was supposed to be in February and March,
41:52
and here we are middle of March and he's not went anywhere on this supposed
41:57
tour. It just seems like they hook him up with the young guys a
42:01
little too much, and I don't see that as being Jericho's thing right now.
42:07
I get what you're saying, MK, I believe I agree with you.
42:10
I love Chris Jericho. I have not really had anything. All the
42:15
shit that people talk about it and all that, I don't buy none of
42:17
that. I personally think it's all jealousy because I watched a interview with him
42:22
and Chris van a Vliet, and he was talking about, you know,
42:28
the beginnings of aw and what he was doing this for and why he was
42:32
there and why he did what he did in the beginning and what he's been
42:37
doing. And I think he's correct. He was doing it because other than
42:42
Chris Jericho when they started, he was the only big name guy that everybody
42:47
knew, people knew about. If you watch the indies, you knew about
42:52
the elite. If you didn't, you might have known them from other places,
42:57
but they weren't real, real well known and then Cody had been Yeah,
43:01
maybe wish you wash you for a while with what he did, but
43:04
he was in the Indies for a while, so Deerriko was the man.
43:08
I think he needs a reboot. I think he needs to take a couple
43:12
months off to fresh clean slate and start something different. Yeah, okay,
43:21
you know that's fair enough. Look, this match here doesn't make a lot
43:24
of sense to me because well, look, the only way that it makes
43:29
sense to me is if the Gates of Agony win. And I'll explain why,
43:32
because everybody expects Chris Jericho and Hook to win, and with the aw
43:39
Tag Team tournament coming up, it doesn't make sense to have this match and
43:45
not have it be a tournament match. But if the Gates of Agony wins,
43:49
it kind of puts them over and they entered Attorney and then maybe in
43:52
the second round or something they go against Chris Jericho and Hook, and that's
44:00
that's good. But look, Chris Jericho, for the last couple of years
44:04
at least, has been working his butt off, and I have a lot
44:07
of respect for it what he's doing. He's really working to put over to
44:10
young guys. But frankly speaking, I don't see what Chris Jericho could possibly
44:15
do to put Hook over. So I really think that in order for this
44:20
match to make any sense whatsoever, Chris Jericho and Hook have to put Over
44:24
at kates of Agony. Because I agree than that it doesn't make any sense.
44:30
But let's move on the next match. We've touched on it a little
44:37
bit. Let's talk about Willow Nightingale versus Rijo, because look, Rijo just
44:43
beat Chris Statlander and you know, the mouse beat the Mountain, you know,
44:50
and it was cool. You know, I'm not speaking bad on Rio
44:52
because Rio is one of my favorite wrestlers in the women's division. Alex,
44:58
do you see how do you see this match playing out? Yeah? I
45:01
think I touched on it earlier, but yeah, I see like Rio's kind
45:06
of like a tool here to tell the story. I think it'll be a
45:08
good match. It'll be fun because Willow Nightingale can throw Rijo around and like
45:15
when she does their pounds, Riho's gonna go flying. Oh yeah yeah,
45:23
maybe right over the ropes. Well, well, she'll definitely be in the
45:28
second or third row in the crowd, that's for sure. Uh yeah,
45:32
But I think Rio is just kind of here to tell the story of Dokeley
45:37
Hathaway trying to cheat Chris Statlander loses because of it. Now Willow's going to
45:45
win because of it, and it'll further that story. And I think,
45:52
yeah, Willow's gonna win here. Whether that leads to Mercedes Monete debuting,
45:59
maybe not. Maybe it'll be more like what Kelson said or something else.
46:02
But yeah, I wonder, uh, who's up? M K, what
46:07
do you think is gonna happen in this match? I'm not sure what's gonna
46:14
happen in the mask, but I know that people for Okay, I can't
46:19
remember which one was the first, uh Sheeta or was a Rejo that was
46:23
the first women's champion. Yeah, so people forget just how good she was
46:30
and and stuff. And I really feel like she's we need to be a
46:36
reminder as a good reminder, and I think she needs to be in storylines
46:39
more that I don't know what. Maybe he'll hold on her back or anything.
46:43
I don't I don't know, but she needs to be a part of
46:45
that division just as much as Mercedes Monett does or anybody. And this is
46:51
a good chance to showcase her and keep on reminding him fans that she is
46:55
this good. I totally agree with you there, buddy. What about you,
47:00
sutton yep? I agree. I kind of think that what we've been
47:07
saying about how it's gonna go is that's pretty much the storyline. I think
47:10
it's gonna lead to the Hathaway involved somehow. It could. It could lead
47:16
to something for ReHO because she will have beaten two of the top women in
47:21
a w two weeks in a row, and that kind of gives her an
47:25
up or an end to getting in the ring again with Tony Storm. I
47:30
mean, that's one thing that can go there. We already know that will
47:32
wants to go for the t n T t n T title, so you
47:37
know that's the that's where that's gonna end up going. It's just I really
47:45
think that Rio is gonna win. I think, well, I think she's
47:47
gonna lose. I'm sorry, she's gonna lose by a cheat, which is
47:52
gonna I don't I don't know. I want to say that's gonna happen,
47:58
but then I want to see her beat Willow so that that that that happens.
48:01
But it's just it's it's all gonna depend because if they do the whole
48:07
women's elite thing like we talked about earlier. Where is that leaf Stokely?
48:12
Is he going to be the manager of the three like we were saying,
48:16
is that? Is he involved in that? Or does that just die out?
48:20
I mean there's a lot of questions there. Yeah, let's uh not
48:28
forget that Riho. I think the biggest thing with Riho that's a detriment to
48:32
her a W runs is that she just doesn't spend the heck of a lot
48:36
of time in a W. She goes back and forth to Japan and she
48:39
you know, she's wrestled in in d's there, she's done g J p
48:45
W. So it's hard to get Riho, who again is definitely deserving of
48:52
an a W push, It's hard to give her a push because she's missing
48:57
half the year, you know. So yeah, so I I kind of
49:01
see I kind of see Rijo winning this match just to really but like a
49:09
little bit of a stress between Chris stat Lander and Willow and forcing them to
49:16
go, hey, let's let's get it together or you know, well basically
49:22
shit or get off the pot, you know kind of thing. I That's
49:25
the way I look at it. Let's move on to the Elite versus Kingston,
49:31
Penta and Pack, and it's really good to back back, uh this
49:38
this match. You know, I don't know, but Alex, I'm kind
49:44
of interested to hear what you have to say. Yeah, well, I
49:49
know, Kelson, you hate prios matches. Is that why you're feeling?
49:53
I just don't like Trea. I don't like multi men or multi women,
49:59
Matt. I think they're just cheap m And if you're gonna have a trios
50:04
match, why not have the acclaimed in it? You know what I mean?
50:10
Make it meaningful. I just don't get it. I don't get it.
50:15
Yeah, I'm I'm really excited for this match. Like I I'm really
50:21
happy to see Okada. I thought he was awesome on collision, just he
50:25
did like three moves the three guys, but it was awesome. He looks
50:30
so good. He's like taller than I expected him to be. I just
50:34
thought because he was in Japan, like he he didn't he was fighting guys
50:38
that were shorter, so he just looked taller. So I'm impressed by just
50:44
how he looks in an American ring. And I thought he They had like
50:51
a little backstage segment that they showed. Maybe it was just on YouTube where
50:54
he's speaking a little bit of English. He was saying that he's gonna drive
51:00
a Kia and then he's like, no Ferrari with all the money that he
51:04
made from AW. So yeah, I really like what they're doing with Okada,
51:09
just giving them just a little bit let him go his personality, and
51:15
he looks amazing so far, and I'm just looking forward to him just beating
51:22
the ever loving you know what out of Eddie Kingston and Plock and Penta tomorrow
51:30
night. Yeah, I'm really pumped for this match, and I'm really excited
51:34
for what's gonna happen with Okada. And one last thing is just I've seen
51:38
Okada wrestle like in Japan, but I never never really clicked for me that
51:43
like arrogance that Okada has. I didn't really get it until seeing him with
51:49
the Elite and it's kind of making more sense. Okay, personality of Okada,
51:55
Yeah, I just think it's like perfect this last week. So yeah,
52:00
I'm really just pumped Frocotta in general, not necessarily this match, but
52:04
I'm excited just to see him out there. So MK, what are your
52:12
thoughts on this trios match. I like it. I really think this is
52:17
a chance to showcase him once again and get him other than enhancement talent and
52:23
being up on them, he can now beat up on Eddie Kingston, so
52:27
that's a plus for me. But I had this fat with a few people
52:31
on Reddit, and I think he is going after the Continental Classic Belt,
52:40
and I think he needs to take it from Eddie. You know, a
52:44
lot of people are telling me that he needs to have a bigger belt and
52:51
then it's a Sea tier belt. But I have always been a believer in
52:52
the wrestler makes the belt, not you know, there are no seat fears.
53:00
It's you know, when John Cena was in WWE and he had the
53:04
United States Challenge and stuff, that belt was prestigious because of he held it.
53:10
Katta can do more with it and he's well known around the world and
53:14
he could actually use it for what it's known to be than just what Eddie
53:17
Kingston is holding it hosted. But this is a good chance to actually show
53:23
Ocada with some good moves and some storylines and some storytelling in the match,
53:30
and that he can work the match, and he can work offensively and defensively.
53:36
So that's my take. No, it's a really good take. I've
53:42
already said that I don't really like the trios match, but if it was
53:45
a trios match, I do think the acclaimed and Daddy asked needed to be
53:49
part of this match. I do agree that Olcada is going to go after
53:52
Kingston. And let me put it this way, if Okada doesn't beat then
54:00
what are we doing here? Seriously? Are we just having Kingston totally say
54:07
is that he's better than the best in the world. There's it's it's preposterous.
54:14
At this point, I'm really looking forward to seeing Pack and I probably
54:21
I normally turned to TV off when Eddie Kingston's in the ring. Everybody knows
54:25
that, and it's true. I haven't seen an Eddie Kingston match on TV
54:30
or pay per view in months, not even at Revolution. I did not
54:36
see the Danielson and Kingston match because I cannot stand that the worst wrestler in
54:43
AEW is beating the best wrestlers in AW. It doesn't make sense to me,
54:50
and it never will, and I'm sorry. I will say to the
54:52
day I take my last breath, the only match to Kingston will wrestle that
54:57
I will watch is his retirement match, and I will love it because he's
55:00
retiring. You know, I love his personality. Can't stand them in the
55:05
ring. He's ridiculous anyway. I wish that Pack would take out Eddie Kingston
55:12
and take the continental title because I would really rather see Pack against Okada than
55:17
Kingston and Okada because Kingston Okada Ocata would have to carry the match and it's
55:24
just going to be a bad match because Kingston has never had a good match,
55:29
not in my eyes. Sorry, guys, So let's move on to
55:35
the main event, which we've already touched on a little bit, and seems
55:39
like we think that this isn't going to be a very clean match, I
55:43
guess. I mean, what are your final thoughts on Samoa Joe and Wardlow?
55:49
Alex Yeah, I you know, I usually wouldn't think there's any chance
55:54
that Wardlow would win this, and I know MK said that Wardlow's not ready.
56:00
I get that, but just because it's big business and it's a big
56:06
night, I don't know, have we ever seen the title change hands on
56:09
a dynamite No, not that I can remember. M h tho, I
56:15
don't remember it happened. Just for the swerve of it and just the no
56:20
pun intended, the swerve of it. Yeah, just because it's a big
56:22
night and it's going to change the face of wrestling. So yeah, I'm
56:28
just predicting we'dlow beating Samoa Joe even though I don't really believe it. But
56:34
let's go big. I I don't know, man, that's I just this
56:43
match has gotta be like tied up in knots. But let's get MK's take
56:47
on this match. Do you think that there's gonna be clear winner. I
56:52
don't think there will be. If if Alice is right and he gets it,
56:58
I will revolt. I just I'm sorry. I want to like Ward
57:02
Love. He's a big guy, but he's just so cookie cutter and they
57:07
don't know what they're doing with him. I want him to succeed, but
57:10
he's just bland and the power bomb is he's so power bomb centered moves that
57:17
you know. I've said that he needs to be more like Mike Awesome and
57:22
just throw out stuff and be the big fun guy to watch and stuff.
57:28
But he's not. And I think it's going to be some type of rift
57:32
where he's not gonna win, and Cole's gonna go ballistic and on him.
57:42
Okay, well, Sutton, what is your take on this. I'm kind
57:45
of the opposite with ward lew. I really do think he could handle the
57:49
title. It wouldn't be a traditional title run, but they're not in a
57:53
traditional He's not with a traditional group right now, and a win by Wardlow
58:00
would fall in line with everything else that's going on for for them at the
58:05
time. You know, they've all got titles except for Coal and him,
58:07
and he's the first one up. I I just think that Joe's time as
58:13
the champ has come. I don't see them dragging it out until Dynasty,
58:16
and this is a way to get that off of him. But I also
58:20
don't see I don't see Wardlow holding it for very long. I kind of
58:27
think it's going to be like he had the TNT title or the word law
58:30
is the history of belts very long? Yeah? I think right, And
58:37
it could lead to a whole thing with Cole wanting that title and saying,
58:40
you know, anybody know when Cole's coming back, how long he's out for?
58:45
Not heard? The problem with MJF coming back. The more I think
58:50
about it, he has a was it a rotary cuff? A rotorcuff?
58:53
Injury that that kind of injury I know from like baseball, those kind of
59:00
injuries can take a year to heal, so he may not be back for
59:05
the most of twenty twenty four. So, you know, I don't know.
59:09
I don't know if he I don't think he was planning on having surgery
59:12
to repair it. But I just see Wardlow and and if they do bring
59:17
him JF back, I see that as a better storyline then with Joe.
59:22
I don't know. I just Samoa. Joe is just he's such a character
59:27
that I don't know. He just doesn't fit storylines well for me. He
59:31
really doesn't. I just see him being that he's to me, he's like
59:37
a giant tank that is gonna win. And like Alex said, this would
59:42
be a swerve that you that you don't see coming because nobody's predicting that Wardlow
59:47
is gonna win this title. Yeah, I mean, look, this matches
59:53
kind of got me a little bit confused because Wardlow in the Undisputed Kingdom and
1:00:05
they're kind of getting a push right now. So Wardlow losing this match would
1:00:10
cleanly would be like that would just destroy the whole point. You know,
1:00:16
they're they're good but the Undisputed Kingdom is good, but they're not good enough
1:00:20
to get the main title. You know. Meanwhile, Samoa Joe, you
1:00:27
know, it wasn't his time against Swerve, and it wasn't his time against
1:00:30
hang Man Adam Paige. It's do we really think it's gonna be his time
1:00:35
against Wardlow? You know, not taking nothing away from Wardlow, but to
1:00:39
me, Hangman, Adam Page and Swerve Strickland are far more deserving of the
1:00:45
championship than Wardlow is. And I'm not saying that Wardlow is not deserving in
1:00:50
the championship. I'm just saying that these other guys are more deserving. So
1:00:53
I think that there's gonna be all kinds of ruckus that happens at this match.
1:01:00
There's no way it's going to be a clean ending and Shamo Joe is
1:01:02
going to win. See, I was thinking the same thing where you know,
1:01:07
you're saying that he's in the n disputed Kingdom. They have not not
1:01:10
been involved in any of the matches, you know what I mean. So
1:01:15
like Roddy won, Roddy won the title, but it wasn't necessary a clean
1:01:20
win. Yeah, So if there is the opportunity, I don't think it's
1:01:24
going to be a clean win either. Yeah. I mean, but look,
1:01:28
my thoughts on the on the Undisputed Kingdom is it's just it's a weak
1:01:31
faction. I mean, they're trying to put over a faction that frankly,
1:01:37
I don't think it's connecting with the crowd at all. And I just don't
1:01:42
think that, you know, the rig of Honor tag champions are special in
1:01:47
any way, shape or form. I don't think that Adam Cole is as
1:01:52
good with the Undisputed Kingdom as he was with m JF. That's clearly obvious.
1:02:00
And I don't think that Roderick Strong is even remotely as interesting as a
1:02:06
as a international champion as Orange Cassidy. The only thing that Roderick Strong has
1:02:12
over Orange Cassidy is that he's a new shiny toy, you know, and
1:02:16
it's nice to see somebody else with the belt, whether he deserves it or
1:02:21
not, you know, you know, Roddy Strong. The complaint that we've
1:02:24
had against Roddy Strong is that he's not very exciting, I don't know.
1:02:30
And then and then you get the Wardlow who's getting to push through the Undisputed
1:02:35
Kingdom as winning the aw World Championship, and why, I just there's got
1:02:44
to be something going on in this match. Something big is gonna happen in
1:02:46
this match, because it doesn't make sense to have Wardlow lose this match,
1:02:51
and it doesn't make sense to have him win it either. So it's kind
1:02:53
of weird interperience that I can see accidental interference that Cole comes out and an
1:03:05
accidentally cost Award Love the match foot with his wheelchair. Well just you know,
1:03:13
just oh, somehow he comes down and accidentally causes in the match,
1:03:21
and he comes down, tries to help, tries to slide something in and
1:03:24
uh Joe gets ahold of it and beats him or something like that. I
1:03:29
don't or or does any other kingdom. I don't know, see I can
1:03:35
see that happening. I actually agree with you on that. I agree with
1:03:38
you on the weakness of this of this faction is by far the weakest faction
1:03:44
they've ever had in a W. It reminds me it would be better placed
1:03:47
on R O H as a whole than it is on the H. I
1:03:53
totally agree. I totally agree. It's a it's it's just not an interesting
1:03:58
faction. I mean, who accomplished. I think the part, the main
1:04:04
fact is that is they did it with Cole not being able to do anything
1:04:09
when he wrestles and he gets in the ring and he builds things the way
1:04:13
he can. Right now, he's a guy on a wheelchair. What's he
1:04:15
got? You know, he can say all he wants, he's not able
1:04:18
to push it like right and bad timing. They haven't even have that issue
1:04:27
a lot lately. Have you noticed they have the issue with Undisputed Kingdom.
1:04:31
They had the issue with the women's with UH when they try to do the
1:04:38
outcast, it didn't work because it was bad timing. Well, like you
1:04:42
know, maybe for Tony Kahn, he should have said, maybe not have
1:04:46
Adam Cole in this faction and get somebody else, like maybe pivot a little
1:04:51
bit. I don't know, you're you're right, I mean calls you guys
1:04:57
are right. Cole is just not Adam Cole. If he's in a wheelchair.
1:05:02
No, it can't can't project right, and he can't he can't do
1:05:09
anything but talk. And yeah, he can't back it up. And his
1:05:15
boys can't back it up. Because even as a group, if you if
1:05:20
you take the other three and take Wardlow out of it. They're weak.
1:05:24
I don't you know, there's nobody And I saw a YouTube video that they
1:05:31
have I forget. It was something about job refractions and this is like Adam
1:05:38
Cole's job refraction. Yeah, well, you know, it's like Adam Coole,
1:05:45
three Bobby Fishes and Wardlow for god, oh god. There's one other
1:05:53
thing that I wanted to talk about before he wrapped this up, but that
1:05:56
is the aw Men's Tag Team Tournament. Also want to mention that there is
1:06:00
a chance that they announced a women's tag tournament tomorrow night or one of these
1:06:06
nights, but let's focus on the men's Tag team tournament. I really hope
1:06:10
they handle it similar to what they had how they handled the Continental Crown or
1:06:17
Classic or whatever the hell you want to call it these days. It's gonna
1:06:20
have a different name tomorrow night too. But if you remember they had your
1:06:27
dad a YouTube show, they announced the entire bracket, you know, and
1:06:31
we knew what was gonna happen. I mean, when you look at the
1:06:34
remember when they did the blind tag team draw and also when they did the
1:06:41
owen Hart they were just kind of making it up on the fly as they
1:06:44
went and that was this poor booking, and you're just not going to get
1:06:46
viewers wanting to turn in for random matches that were obviously random matches thrown together.
1:06:53
I want to see a a bracket now. The only thing that I
1:06:59
can say about that is that I know now that the Workhorsemen were to participate
1:07:09
in the Tag Team tournament, but unfortunately they had to pull out because over
1:07:14
the weekend Anthony Henry from the Workhorseman had him matching in the Indies with Brian
1:07:20
Keith, and Anthony Henry took a d from Brian Keith to the face and
1:07:29
broke his jobs going to require surgery, and so the Workhorsemen are out of
1:07:33
the AW Tag Team Tournament. Maybe this is how they're going to introduce the
1:07:40
Gates of Agne into the tournament. I don't know, but you know personally,
1:07:46
you know, Look, you know the Workhorsemen. They are workhorsemen.
1:07:51
They worked their asses off, they do everything that they've been asked to do.
1:07:57
Look, I wish Anthony Henry a speedy recovery, and I hope he
1:08:02
gets back to it and better than ever with his partner JD. Drake,
1:08:08
and they do some damage in AW or right or wherever they're going to go
1:08:15
and get pushed because these guys, frankly of the Jobber teams, these guys
1:08:24
do deserve to get pushed because they're really good anyway. So I mean,
1:08:29
Alex, I mean, do you want to see that? Am I wrong?
1:08:30
Do you want to see the tag team tournament brackets put up in lights
1:08:35
so we keep up with it and you know, like keep a scorecard because
1:08:39
that was one of the fun things we talked about, you know, when
1:08:44
the Continental Classic Crown Championship title tournament thing was going on. Mm hmm,
1:08:50
Yeah, I want to see a bracket and I want to see you like
1:08:55
a lot of teams in here. They should just every team that they have
1:09:00
in roh. I know, like the Infantry has already said that they're in
1:09:03
it, so obviously they're going to get a lot of teams. If they're
1:09:06
getting teams that have never even appeared on aw television proper in it, yeah
1:09:14
the job Yeah. But yeah, so I guess if it's like a sixteen
1:09:18
team bracket or something like, they'll be a pretty big grouping. It kind
1:09:26
of doesn't lend itself to as much excitement as the Continental Classic, where it's
1:09:31
like around robin because you know, teams are just like one and done.
1:09:35
You just you can pretty quickly look at the brackets and figure out who's going
1:09:41
on and who's not. But I guess they're going to try to make some
1:09:44
upsets. Yeah, I'm just looking forward to seeing the bracket and all the
1:09:47
teams that are in there, and if there's some surprises or teams maybe from
1:09:53
outside of AW that we haven't seen in AW that are yeah, oh hey
1:09:58
that's possibility, like a t NA Tague team or a new Japan right.
1:10:05
Yeah, Yeah, the CMML is a good, good option as long as
1:10:11
they're not put in as jobbers though. You know, it's let's get let's
1:10:15
get these teams. You know, some notoriety, I guess is the best
1:10:18
way to put it. Yeah, for sure. So MK, what are
1:10:25
your thoughts, you know, on the tag team bracket. We don't even
1:10:28
know how many teams there are going to be in this bracket, you know,
1:10:30
but would you like to see the bracket or do you want to be
1:10:33
surprised? I want to see the bracket. But I thought I heard somewhere.
1:10:39
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought I heard they're gonna make it a
1:10:41
round robin tournament and have it on Dynamite and although Dynamite and Rampage and all
1:10:46
those those shows and stuff. I just you know, I'm a fan of
1:10:53
tag team I think they need to bring it back. I know that you
1:10:59
need have said they're going to be in it. I don't know who else
1:11:02
is going to be in it, but I have something. Doesn't know how
1:11:05
I would book it, but I'll leave it to a different time when we
1:11:08
actually know who's who's all right there. But it's no fun to speculate on
1:11:13
something we have no clue about. And it's starting, you know when it
1:11:16
is. Its starting on Collisions. So tomorrow night would be a really good
1:11:19
night to announce it, don't you think something? Yeah, I agree,
1:11:24
I would love that. I love tag team wrestling. I've always been a
1:11:27
fan of tag team wrestling people have gotten away from. I mean, I
1:11:30
remember the good old days of the road Rowriers and those guys, and I
1:11:33
would love to see them put as many teams in as they can. I
1:11:38
love the idea. I don't know the working relationship between like TNA and NWA,
1:11:44
and I know we would work with CMML c CMLLL. You might have
1:11:48
a team from New Japan. I mean, there's a possibility here that you
1:11:51
could have a mini Forbidden Door with a you know, with a round robin.
1:12:00
I can see them doing it. What there's there's forty some days until
1:12:02
Dynasty. You assume the Dynasty is going to be the finale. I mean,
1:12:08
that's the logical thing would be to have the tag team division, the
1:12:11
tag team titles determined that the pay per view. So you know, you've
1:12:15
got less than forty days, You've got about forty two days. You've got
1:12:19
six weeks, so you've got eighteen shows, a little less of that because
1:12:26
of the furnament. I already know that at least one collision is not happening,
1:12:32
right, and then you've got two shows, well two shows this week
1:12:35
that aren't happening. So we'll go with fifteen shows. You know, there's
1:12:43
it just depends on how much of the like they could make. The entire
1:12:45
matches of the Friday show could all be tag team matches. And there's not
1:12:51
that many people that really are gonna they don't do much on that show anyway,
1:12:55
you know what I mean, So you could do that to make up
1:12:58
for it, So you know, it'll be nice. Hopefully they're going to
1:13:00
do brackets. Hopefully it's going to be more than eight teams. Hopefully we've
1:13:03
got some in there that we don't know and makes it so that it's not
1:13:08
predictable, because a lot of times when you have those mac those kind of
1:13:14
things like with the Own Heart and that other one, you know, you
1:13:18
know what's going to happen. You don't have to, you know. I
1:13:21
love what they did on their Classic because they gave you even though we knew
1:13:27
who was going to win in the end, how they got there was crazy
1:13:31
and it made it worth watching. And you want to do that with the
1:13:34
tag team division, I really think you do. I don't want to know
1:13:39
that it's going to be FTR versus the EVPs, right, you know what
1:13:44
I mean? And and and the one team I don't think is going to
1:13:47
be able to be in it is going to be the Lucia Bros. Because
1:13:49
I don't know what's up with Phoenix. Yeah it sucks. That really sucks
1:13:56
because I love those two as a tag team. Yeah, we will find
1:14:01
out hopefully tomorrow. Maybe that's the big business. Maybe we got a lot
1:14:04
of big let's take care of business tomorrow. Night. That's yeah. Hopefully
1:14:11
maybe they don't make a major announcement about the tag teams tomorrow too. That
1:14:14
could be great, I hope. So well, let's wrap this up this
1:14:18
that was the show. Let's I know we're all gonna be uh eagerly awaiting
1:14:25
big business. I mean, we've got what more sleep the big business you
1:14:29
know kind of thing going on. And I think that if you're if you
1:14:33
have a chance to join us on the aw fad hub subreddit, Dynamite live
1:14:38
chat tomorrow night would be probably be a good night to do it, because
1:14:42
I think there's gonna be a lot of holy shits tomorrow night, so at
1:14:46
least I hope. So So anyway, that's ignition. We will be back
1:14:54
tomorrow night for all lead talk right after Dynamite. But that's a show for
1:15:00
tonight. Thank you for listening. Thank you to m K and to Sutton,
1:15:08
and we hopefully we'll have Sith with us tomorrow night. And Nett who
1:15:14
wasn't able to join us tonight for health reasons. She was up feeling under
1:15:18
the weather suits yesterday. And we miss you Net and Alex Alex for I
1:15:30
forgot yes, yes, good old friend sleazy came in and Alex, you
1:15:36
know, he somehow managed to get out of a family crisis tomorrow night to
1:15:43
be able to join us for all leat talk. It's it's a tragedy,
1:15:57
have to stay home and watch. He was he was gonna take his mother
1:16:00
and his wife to the ballet, and his work interfered. And I don't
1:16:05
know if I should put work in quotation marks or not, but because I
1:16:09
kind of think you're lying about it, Wow, I'm just busting you.
1:16:15
But you know, but it is what it is. I'm glad that you'll
1:16:18
be here tomorrow night because I am really looking forward to big business and I'm
1:16:24
looking forward to the show tomorrow night because I'm hoping we're Like I did not
1:16:28
see that coming, because we just came up with a lot of predictions and
1:16:32
fantasy booking for tomorrow night, and if we get one or two of them
1:16:36
even remotely closed, it would be a major success. So it is what
1:16:44
it is. But anyway, thanks again guys for aw fan of Ignition podcast.
1:16:51
This is Kelson. Good night, everybody, good night.