Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NBA Show | October 22, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 0:05Speaker 1: All system's going clear.
- 0:07Speaker 2: What's left on?
- 0:36Speaker 3: What is going on? Everyone? We are back for a
- 0:39Speaker 3: massive twelve game Wednesday slate with a ton of injury news.
- 0:43Speaker 3: So it wouldn't be basketball if a basketball season, if
- 0:46Speaker 3: there wasn't a ton of injury news on opening night,
- 0:50Speaker 3: I'll say what's up to everybody in chat Sean didn't
- 0:52Speaker 3: want to give a special shout out to our guy
- 0:54Speaker 3: Brock shipped the main tournament last night for one hundred
- 0:58Speaker 3: and fourteen thousand dollars. That was a great lineup and
- 1:00Speaker 3: it was fun watching the sweat and the discord with you.
- 1:03Speaker 3: So congrats there. God, I am Rice here our guy
- 1:05Speaker 3: little Nick. Good job on the showdown Slate, plany last night.
- 1:08Speaker 3: I saw some winners over there, Benjizzi, Jordan Nate, go collect,
- 1:15Speaker 3: Tim Mills, Ghostsman, William go collect again, Gang Green, what's
- 1:20Speaker 3: up guy, Ethan mar Berger, thank you for that, Evan Gossa,
- 1:26Speaker 3: Jason Turner, Ethan again, Jasmine, what's up? And I'll bring
- 1:30Speaker 3: in our newest edition to the team. Matthew. I know
- 1:33Speaker 3: that a lot of people in the nation are familiar
- 1:36Speaker 3: with you, but if you don't know, we did bring
- 1:38Speaker 3: on Matthew to help along with our NBA product this
- 1:41Speaker 3: season and then some other things down the line. But
- 1:44Speaker 3: want to bring you in right away. How you doing today?
- 1:46Speaker 1: I'm good man better now that I'm here with you
- 1:48Speaker 1: talking some hoops. Been a long time comment. Excited to
- 1:51Speaker 1: be on here talking some NBA DF's with you, massive
- 1:55Speaker 1: massive slate. Was thinking about this a little bit before though.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Sometimes with these massive slates the breakdowns are almost easier
- 2:02Speaker 1: and lighter because you just focus on the best plays.
- 2:04Speaker 1: You don't have to really look at the margins. So yeah,
- 2:07Speaker 1: excited to break this one down for you. A ton
- 2:09Speaker 1: of really good plays all over the board.
- 2:11Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, And I think that this will be
- 2:14Speaker 3: a great show, a lot of very beneficial for a
- 2:16Speaker 3: lot of players, just because Matt plays a little bit
- 2:19Speaker 3: different differently than I do than how title does. He's
- 2:21Speaker 3: more of a single che of three Marx guy. So
- 2:24Speaker 3: if you want to talk through your process in terms
- 2:25Speaker 3: of how you approach big slates like this or just
- 2:28Speaker 3: NBA in general, that'd be great.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's funny with how like the cores and
- 2:33Speaker 1: the slate pland come out because personally and every slate
- 2:36Speaker 1: is like its own organism, So you can't go in
- 2:39Speaker 1: with these rules. But for me, as someone who generally
- 2:42Speaker 1: plays three lineups, sometimes I'll play one, sometimes I'll play five,
- 2:46Speaker 1: depending on what I have going on, I really like
- 2:49Speaker 1: to make like a core of five players. Those five
- 2:53Speaker 1: players will oftentimes be in all my lineups. Now most
- 2:57Speaker 1: of the time, those will be five of the best
- 3:00Speaker 1: plays on the slate. NBA is just different from other sports,
- 3:03Speaker 1: and that it's so projectable. You really don't want to
- 3:06Speaker 1: be on an island getting different one or two spots.
- 3:09Speaker 1: And I know we talk about that in football, but
- 3:11Speaker 1: really that is kind of what I hone in on
- 3:14Speaker 1: with NBA. I think people focus too much on getting
- 3:18Speaker 1: different in spots that are too obvious to play. So yeah,
- 3:22Speaker 1: kind of condensing my player pool obviously means I'm not
- 3:25Speaker 1: gonna be able to play everyone or nearly everyone. There
- 3:29Speaker 1: are a ton of good plays on this slate in particular,
- 3:31Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to play, but that's the
- 3:33Speaker 1: case with every slate, and that's just the nature of
- 3:36Speaker 1: only playing three lineups. So you know that going in
- 3:39Speaker 1: and you just try to build the highest ROI lineups
- 3:42Speaker 1: you can. And again, every slate is different, at least
- 3:45Speaker 1: to me, so tough to have, Like at least I
- 3:47Speaker 1: don't have like set rules that I use every slate.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Yep, definitely agree with you there. I think that's a
- 3:55Speaker 3: good segue into this game. You don only have a
- 3:57Speaker 3: lot of time to waste because there's a lot of
- 3:58Speaker 3: injuries to sift through and a lot of games on
- 4:00Speaker 3: the slate. So we'll get right into it. As you
- 4:02Speaker 3: can see, it got the stone pulled up right here,
- 4:04Speaker 3: which is our our proprietary thing that you know, Djen
- 4:08Speaker 3: brought over recipes to Djen. But yeah, it's a great,
- 4:11Speaker 3: great starting point for most slates, can you know pop
- 4:14Speaker 3: over from this to the slave plan to save or
- 4:16Speaker 3: Simon kind of incorporated into your whole process. So we'll
- 4:20Speaker 3: kick things off with the first game of the night,
- 4:21Speaker 3: which I think is a pretty good one. Here we've
- 4:23Speaker 3: got cavaliers at the Knicks, injuries on both sides. Here,
- 4:27Speaker 3: we got Darius Garland, DeAndre Hunter, Daris Garland and Max
- 4:30Speaker 3: Strus out for the Calves and DeAndre Hunter is this questionable.
- 4:34Speaker 3: I believe I saw somewhere on Twitter that somebody else
- 4:37Speaker 3: I think it was Dean Wade was in a start
- 4:39Speaker 3: as Jersey. So it looks like Deandrew Hunter is probably
- 4:43Speaker 3: trending down tonight, which opens up a little bit more
- 4:45Speaker 3: usage for guys like Mitchell Mobley, Jared Allen, and some
- 4:48Speaker 3: other players there as well. But we'll have that news
- 4:51Speaker 3: as we get closer to tip off. And then for
- 4:54Speaker 3: the Knicks, we have Josh Hart and Mitchell Robinson listen out,
- 4:57Speaker 3: and Karl Anthony town has been kind of yo yoing
- 5:00Speaker 3: between questionable and doubtful. He's officially questionable on the most
- 5:04Speaker 3: recent injury report, so we'll say that he's a fifth
- 5:07Speaker 3: to fifty shot to play tonight, and then OG is
- 5:09Speaker 3: listed probable. Pretty good game to kick things off. I
- 5:12Speaker 3: think this might be a better real life game than
- 5:15Speaker 3: DFS game. But what do you think about this when
- 5:18Speaker 3: you're met So.
- 5:19Speaker 1: You kind of took the words out of my mouth
- 5:21Speaker 1: when you said probably a better game for real life
- 5:24Speaker 1: purposes than for DFS purposes. That doesn't mean there aren't plays.
- 5:30Speaker 1: This is one of the better real life games on
- 5:31Speaker 1: the board. I'm a huge Calves fan, Cleveland born and raised,
- 5:35Speaker 1: so my Calves excited about Opening Night, even though the
- 5:38Speaker 1: regular season for this team really doesn't matter. I digress
- 5:42Speaker 1: a Knixt team who's kind of in a similar boat.
- 5:45Speaker 1: I think more of the fantasy appeal comes from the
- 5:48Speaker 1: Knick side. I do think that you're your point of hunter.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Whether if he's out, that does open things up a
- 5:53Speaker 1: little bit for Cleveland, who's already missing Garland and Struce,
- 5:56Speaker 1: so you're already going to see increased usage for their
- 5:59Speaker 1: main guys there. For the Knicks with Heart out, I
- 6:02Speaker 1: think McHale Bridges. Look, he's not going to be a
- 6:06Speaker 1: sexy player on like any slate he's ever on, but
- 6:08Speaker 1: at fifty eight hundred he should soak up a lot
- 6:12Speaker 1: of those. You know, he already plays huge minutes. We
- 6:14Speaker 1: don't know exactly how the Knicks are going to play
- 6:16Speaker 1: it now with Thibodeau out, But again I think Bridges
- 6:20Speaker 1: is I don't want to say the best play on
- 6:21Speaker 1: this game, because you have Brunson and Towns, who are
- 6:23Speaker 1: obviously better plays at higher price points, but at fifty
- 6:27Speaker 1: eight hundred, I think Bridges is a cog in the
- 6:30Speaker 1: machine type and outside of Towns who I'm a little
- 6:34Speaker 1: bit nervous about and want to get your take on Towns,
- 6:36Speaker 1: I think Bridges is the guy I'm most likely to
- 6:39Speaker 1: get to from this game, but again, playing three lineups,
- 6:42Speaker 1: this isn't a game where I have to get pieces
- 6:44Speaker 1: from how do you see it?
- 6:46Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say pretty similar. I think I might
- 6:48Speaker 3: be a little bit higher on the town side than most,
- 6:53Speaker 3: just because this is a guy that's probably when it's
- 6:55Speaker 3: all said and done and we get to the peak
- 6:58Speaker 3: of the season, he's going to be priced around ten dollars,
- 7:00Speaker 3: which is just kind of something you always want to
- 7:03Speaker 3: be ahead of, Like, just always have guys like Kat
- 7:05Speaker 3: in the mid eight case in your playerpool, regardless of
- 7:08Speaker 3: the matchup. Matchup is not great. The Calves were one
- 7:11Speaker 3: of the best defenses in the league last year and
- 7:13Speaker 3: should be again this season. But I would say that
- 7:16Speaker 3: Kat is probably my favorite option on the nick side. Now,
- 7:19Speaker 3: if we get the news that Kat is out, that
- 7:22Speaker 3: makes bruntson a much better play in a tough matchup.
- 7:25Speaker 3: But he's just gonna have extremely high usage, And then
- 7:27Speaker 3: I would also say that kind of trickles down a
- 7:29Speaker 3: little bit so the Yaboo and Hut party of the world,
- 7:32Speaker 3: where they're gonna be split in those front court minutes
- 7:36Speaker 3: a lot more than they were they would be originally.
- 7:38Speaker 3: So I would say whatever starts between those two. If
- 7:42Speaker 3: Kat is out, would definitely have my interests. Do you
- 7:46Speaker 3: like anything on the Cavs side or are they just
- 7:47Speaker 3: kind of a cross off.
- 7:48Speaker 1: So I'll get to the Caves side real quick. Just
- 7:50Speaker 1: want to touch on Towns for a second after you
- 7:52Speaker 1: said that. I'm a little bit torn on talents just
- 7:54Speaker 1: because one, You're right his average price last year was
- 7:57Speaker 1: ninety three hundred on DraftKings, so he's too sheep at
- 8:00Speaker 1: eighty five hundred. He likely won't be under nine k
- 8:02Speaker 1: for that much longer. I'm a little bit nervous though,
- 8:05Speaker 1: because he keeps going from you know, like you said,
- 8:08Speaker 1: his flip flopping questionable the doubtful. Clearly he's not like
- 8:11Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Maybe he is, maybe they're just playing games,
- 8:14Speaker 1: but that anois me out a bit. At really high ownership.
- 8:18Speaker 1: He's projected to be like the third or fourth highest
- 8:19Speaker 1: owned player on the slate, which I get at this tag,
- 8:22Speaker 1: but just a little bit nervous going to the Cleveland
- 8:25Speaker 1: side kind of as a direct pivot off of Towns
- 8:28Speaker 1: and off of Zion, who got mentioned a bunch in
- 8:31Speaker 1: the discord earlier. I think Evan Mobley is really interesting
- 8:34Speaker 1: here on paper, probably too expensive to most at eighty
- 8:38Speaker 1: nine hundred, but he still projects well. Again, Calves are
- 8:42Speaker 1: missing Garland, they're missing Strus, maybe they're missing Hunter. All
- 8:46Speaker 1: the talk around Cleveland this entire summer and offseason has
- 8:49Speaker 1: a bit about Mobley taking a jump this year. He's
- 8:52Speaker 1: looked really, really good in preseason workouts and in the
- 8:56Speaker 1: preseason all that stuff. So who knows. I'm not playing
- 8:59Speaker 1: him because of that, but I do think he has
- 9:01Speaker 1: a real upside in this spot at very low ownership,
- 9:05Speaker 1: especially compared to Towns and Zion, who his exact same price.
- 9:10Speaker 1: So Mobile is the one guy for Cleveland. I'm interested
- 9:12Speaker 1: in it in maybe that changes if Hunter's out. How
- 9:15Speaker 1: about you?
- 9:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think I would have mobiley probably
- 9:18Speaker 3: the top play on the Cavs. But I do like
- 9:20Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell a good bit here. I think he might
- 9:21Speaker 3: be a little bit under owned, just for the potential
- 9:23Speaker 3: upside with with Garland now just a guy that's gonna
- 9:27Speaker 3: lead the team in usage, and then you add on
- 9:29Speaker 3: some more ball handling role with the assist number jumping
- 9:32Speaker 3: up last season, might be a little bit less this year,
- 9:35Speaker 3: just with lonso kind of being the more like prototypical
- 9:38Speaker 3: point guard to run the offense. I think that he's
- 9:41Speaker 3: very well equipped to run the offense, similar to how
- 9:43Speaker 3: Darius Garland would be and kind of just put Donovan
- 9:46Speaker 3: Moore into like the scorers role. But he's a guy
- 9:49Speaker 3: that has you know, he has history with New York.
- 9:51Speaker 3: He's from New York. He likes the Next a lot.
- 9:54Speaker 3: There's a lot of talk when he was gonna leave
- 9:55Speaker 3: the Jazz if he's going to go to the next
- 9:56Speaker 3: I think he likes playing there, and I just don't
- 9:59Speaker 3: really see the matchup being too difficult with I mean,
- 10:03Speaker 3: I don't really consider Bridges like a lockdown defender anymore.
- 10:06Speaker 3: And og is for sure, but he's gonna be on mobile.
- 10:08Speaker 3: So I would say that Donovan has a pretty solid matchup. Yeah,
- 10:12Speaker 3: I don't know all I would say that this game
- 10:14Speaker 3: is probably better for real life than it would be
- 10:17Speaker 3: for fantasy. So we can probably move on to the
- 10:19Speaker 3: next one now, unless you got anything else you want
- 10:21Speaker 3: to add.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Now, I'm with you, man.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Yeah, So this one I think probably won't spend a
- 10:26Speaker 3: lot of time on either. We got Miami at Orlando,
- 10:28Speaker 3: one of the lowest scoring games on the slate. It
- 10:30Speaker 3: might actually be the lowest projected game total here. Both
- 10:35Speaker 3: these teams play very strong defense, play at a very
- 10:37Speaker 3: low pace. I think we might be asking for a
- 10:39Speaker 3: little bit too much to get some performance, some ceiling
- 10:42Speaker 3: performances out of this game. But there are some injuries here,
- 10:45Speaker 3: with the Heat going to be without Tyler Hero for
- 10:50Speaker 3: quite a bit of time. I'm not exactly sure what
- 10:52Speaker 3: the timetable looks like for him, but he's out, and
- 10:54Speaker 3: then Chloe Ware is questionable with an ankle sprain, so
- 10:57Speaker 3: that could open up some more front court minutes. Magic
- 11:01Speaker 3: looking pretty healthy, Mo Wagner still recovering from the ACL
- 11:04Speaker 3: injury from last season. Then Jalen Suggs is available tonight
- 11:08Speaker 3: with the knee injury that held them out for a
- 11:10Speaker 3: little bit, so they'll be looking fully healthy. Just added
- 11:13Speaker 3: Desmond Bane to their team, so that's going to help
- 11:15Speaker 3: them a lot for a team that was I believe
- 11:18Speaker 3: they were the worst three point shooting team in the
- 11:19Speaker 3: league last season. So stylistically, this is a decent matchup
- 11:23Speaker 3: for the three point shooters, mainly Desmond Bane on the
- 11:26Speaker 3: Magic because the Heat do play a lot of his
- 11:27Speaker 3: own defense and just kind of the style of defense
- 11:30Speaker 3: they play could lead to some higher volume three point shooting,
- 11:33Speaker 3: but in such a low total, I don't know if
- 11:36Speaker 3: I'm gonna get more than five percent of any player
- 11:38Speaker 3: in particularly my portfolio. How are you approaching this one
- 11:42Speaker 3: from a three max perspective?
- 11:45Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love the Bay in addition to Orlando,
- 11:48Speaker 1: like just in general, not necessarily for tonight or for DFAs,
- 11:52Speaker 1: just in general. I think people are still sleeping on Orlando. Like,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I don't think there's that much different at all between
- 11:58Speaker 1: Orlando and Cleveland, and the next wouldn't be shocked at all.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Orlando comes out the only comes out of the East,
- 12:04Speaker 1: I should say. The only play from this game I'm
- 12:06Speaker 1: even considering is Powlow. I think he falls into that
- 12:10Speaker 1: Towns bucket where he's just too cheap. He's unlikely to
- 12:13Speaker 1: be eighty two hundred for that much longer. But if
- 12:16Speaker 1: you're playing polo like, you're not playing guys like Towns
- 12:20Speaker 1: or Mobly, Sir. You can play some of them together,
- 12:22Speaker 1: but you're obviously not getting to one of those guys
- 12:24Speaker 1: if you play Polow, so a lot of opportunity costs.
- 12:27Speaker 1: I do think that he's too cheap, though, like not
- 12:29Speaker 1: going to be surprised, if he's nine K sooner rather
- 12:31Speaker 1: than later, so it's polo or bust for me from
- 12:34Speaker 1: this game. YEP.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Definitely agree there and make it a lot easier. We
- 12:37Speaker 3: could just move on to another game that you know,
- 12:40Speaker 3: could be one that you cross up. But I think
- 12:42Speaker 3: it's a little bit more interesting just with there being
- 12:45Speaker 3: so many unknowns in this one. The Nets heading to
- 12:49Speaker 3: Charlotte take on the Hornets, and we got LaMelo Ball healthy,
- 12:52Speaker 3: Brandon Miller healthy, and they got the addition of calling
- 12:55Speaker 3: sexon and the two rookies in Konkin Nipple who looks
- 12:59Speaker 3: like he might begin the start tonight over consects and
- 13:02Speaker 3: but it's gonna be one of those two guys. And
- 13:04Speaker 3: then we got Ryan Kochbrenner as well, making his debut.
- 13:08Speaker 3: And then you got the Nets side where they added
- 13:11Speaker 3: Michael Porter junior, and then a bunch of guys in
- 13:14Speaker 3: the draft that I don't really have too much to
- 13:17Speaker 3: talk about. On that side, I would say that they
- 13:19Speaker 3: have probably three NBA caliber players right now and Cam Thomas,
- 13:24Speaker 3: Michael Port junior, Nick Claxon. Otherwise a fairly thin team
- 13:28Speaker 3: and I think that this might be the worst roster
- 13:29Speaker 3: in the NBA I'm kind of expecting them to be
- 13:33Speaker 3: the top or I guess the bottom team at the
- 13:35Speaker 3: top end the lottery coming up to the twenty twenty
- 13:39Speaker 3: six season. But both these teams were pretty terrible and
- 13:43Speaker 3: defensive in the defensive metrics last season bottom eight and
- 13:46Speaker 3: bottom seven in defense. The Hornets were a little bit
- 13:48Speaker 3: more three point finally, whereas the Nets were one of
- 13:51Speaker 3: the worst transition defense in the league. So I think
- 13:53Speaker 3: that there is some upside from a fantasy perspective in
- 13:56Speaker 3: this game. Is there anything that sticks out to you
- 13:58Speaker 3: in this one?
- 14:00Speaker 1: Man, Brooklyn, as you kind of alluded to, is a
- 14:03Speaker 1: really hard not to crack, Like, we just don't know
- 14:06Speaker 1: what they are gonna be. They've only got a couple
- 14:09Speaker 1: NBA guys on their roster. I think the more appealing
- 14:12Speaker 1: side is Charlotte, but again it's tough to know exactly
- 14:15Speaker 1: what to make with Charlotte with them being healthy, you know,
- 14:19Speaker 1: Brandon Miller and LaMelo sharing the backcourt. I think LaMelo
- 14:24Speaker 1: is the best play from this game, or from the
- 14:26Speaker 1: Charlotte side at least, but again, so much opportunity cost there.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Like in one lineup, I'm not playing LaMelo over Trey Young,
- 14:36Speaker 1: who's a couple hundred more over Devin Booker, who's basically
- 14:39Speaker 1: the same price. Like, I get it, I don't think
- 14:41Speaker 1: those plays are that far apart. I just don't think
- 14:44Speaker 1: LaMelo is as good of a play as those guys.
- 14:47Speaker 1: After that, I can't really see myself getting too much
- 14:50Speaker 1: on Charlotte. I see Ryan Kulkbrenner projecting for some love
- 14:54Speaker 1: and projects as one of the better value plays on
- 14:56Speaker 1: this slate. This slate is definitely setting up as a
- 14:58Speaker 1: Scrubs and Stars type slate with just a bunch of
- 15:01Speaker 1: three k guys projecting.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Well, yeah for sure, Yeah, definitely got some interested in
- 15:07Speaker 3: the Charlotte side. I would say that just from the
- 15:10Speaker 3: style that they normally play last year, they were pretty
- 15:12Speaker 3: slow in pace. But I would say like historically, with
- 15:14Speaker 3: LaMelo and just all these younger guys, they're going to
- 15:16Speaker 3: be a team that does does look to push the
- 15:18Speaker 3: pace a little bit. And Miles Bridge is one of
- 15:21Speaker 3: the better transition scores in the league. LaMelo is a
- 15:23Speaker 3: guy that could for with a triple double with especially
- 15:26Speaker 3: if he gets the ball out pushed in pace pretty
- 15:29Speaker 3: quick and often in this game. So I do agree
- 15:32Speaker 3: that LaMelo is probably not as good as those guards
- 15:34Speaker 3: that you mentioned, but for sure somebody you should have
- 15:36Speaker 3: in your playpool, and it's pretty easy to get over
- 15:38Speaker 3: the field if you are playing twenty max one to
- 15:41Speaker 3: fifty max. I would say that I'm going to have
- 15:42Speaker 3: probably six to eight percent of LaMelo if I had
- 15:45Speaker 3: to guess, then maybe four percent of Bridges, but definitely
- 15:48Speaker 3: leaning more on the value side. With Cockbrenner at just
- 15:51Speaker 3: three point two k, we could see the split being
- 15:54Speaker 3: you know, near even or maybe even lean his favor
- 15:57Speaker 3: between him and Diabatse. I think that he's probably the
- 16:00Speaker 3: better long term option, so they maybe want to get
- 16:02Speaker 3: a looked at him, you know, early on. So we'll see,
- 16:05Speaker 3: we'll see what they do there. But I would say
- 16:07Speaker 3: from the net side, it might be asking for a
- 16:10Speaker 3: little bit too much to ask for a ceiling game
- 16:12Speaker 3: from Cam Thomas at seven point six K. I don't
- 16:15Speaker 3: really know if he's going to change. His style of
- 16:17Speaker 3: play is a very you know, he's gonna chuck chuck
- 16:19Speaker 3: at a ton. He might take thirty shots here, which
- 16:21Speaker 3: he could definitely pay off the tag in a decent
- 16:24Speaker 3: matchup versus Charlotte. But I kind of like the I
- 16:27Speaker 3: like Michael Port Junior a little bit. He showed pretty
- 16:29Speaker 3: strong usage rate in the preseason and kind of doing
- 16:32Speaker 3: a little bit more than what he was asked to
- 16:34Speaker 3: do in Denver with a little bit more rim volume scoring,
- 16:37Speaker 3: and the Hornets don't really have great rim defense. I
- 16:39Speaker 3: think that there's kind of a few different outs for
- 16:42Speaker 3: Michael Port Junior to get there. I'm not Superndo Clackson.
- 16:45Speaker 3: I just think that hit him and Darren Sharp are
- 16:47Speaker 3: kind of splitting too much to really be of use.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Like it's to the next game. I'd say this one
- 16:54Speaker 3: is probably the second most enticing just from a game
- 16:57Speaker 3: environment perspective. I believe this is the second highest game
- 17:00Speaker 3: total on the slate. Two teams that like to play
- 17:02Speaker 3: up and pace in the Toronto Raptors heading to Atlanta
- 17:06Speaker 3: to face the Hawks, both teams fully healthy. I would
- 17:09Speaker 3: say the Hawks are another kind of I don't know
- 17:11Speaker 3: if they would be considered a dark horse coming out
- 17:13Speaker 3: of the East, but I would say that they're a
- 17:14Speaker 3: team I could see finishing top three, top four in
- 17:17Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, just with the weakness of it right
- 17:20Speaker 3: now with the Celtics dealing with what they're dealing with.
- 17:22Speaker 3: But the Raptors are another team that looks pretty decent.
- 17:25Speaker 3: They're gonna be fully healthy. This will be the first
- 17:26Speaker 3: time we see Scotty Barnes quickly, Barrett, Ingram, and Pearl
- 17:30Speaker 3: all play together. They had the summer to kind of
- 17:34Speaker 3: figure things out get some chemistry going. But I think
- 17:36Speaker 3: this could be a pretty fun game, both in DFS
- 17:40Speaker 3: and from a real life perspective. Is there anything that
- 17:42Speaker 3: is standing out to you for either side in this game?
- 17:45Speaker 1: I think you hit the nail on the head like
- 17:46Speaker 1: this game is really appealing all over. A bit hard
- 17:50Speaker 1: to nail down with expensive price tags on both sides,
- 17:54Speaker 1: but I definitely want some exposure here. The two guys
- 17:58Speaker 1: that I like most are actually the two new additions
- 18:00Speaker 1: that haven't played in their for their perspective teams yet
- 18:03Speaker 1: for their respective teams yet. Porzingis my favorite overall play
- 18:07Speaker 1: from this game. I just think his upside is really
- 18:10Speaker 1: really high at seventy three hundred, has looked great all summer,
- 18:13Speaker 1: he projects well, ownership isn't really there. I like him
- 18:17Speaker 1: a ton in this spot. And then the guy from
- 18:19Speaker 1: the other side of this game, who I like quite
- 18:21Speaker 1: a bit, not as much as porzingis I just think
- 18:24Speaker 1: there's a lower floor and more risk is brandon Ingram Again,
- 18:28Speaker 1: not exactly sure what to make of Ingram now with
- 18:32Speaker 1: Barnes and Barrett and quickly as you mentioned, but Ingram's
- 18:36Speaker 1: too cheap at seventy four hundred, so he's not like
- 18:38Speaker 1: a guy I'm planning on locking in. But you could
- 18:41Speaker 1: do far worse than Ingram at seventy four hundred, even
- 18:44Speaker 1: with the unknowns there. How do you see it?
- 18:47Speaker 3: Yeah, very similar. I definitely share the same sentiment about
- 18:51Speaker 3: Christops porzingis. He's just got a lot working in his favor,
- 18:54Speaker 3: gonna be fully healthy. He was dealing with the mystery
- 18:57Speaker 3: illness last year. I don't think anybody ever figured out
- 18:59Speaker 3: what it was. But there's gonna be a lot of
- 19:02Speaker 3: opportunity him for him in this game, the Raptors were
- 19:06Speaker 3: one of the worst pick and roll defenses against big men,
- 19:10Speaker 3: so the role man and he's gonna be a guy
- 19:11Speaker 3: that can really space the floor for Trey. Trey is
- 19:14Speaker 3: one of the best passes in the league, regardless of
- 19:16Speaker 3: what you think about him as an actual player, and
- 19:19Speaker 3: you know he's Chris Tops I believe definitely has double
- 19:21Speaker 3: double upside. He's gonna have a lot of opportunities for
- 19:24Speaker 3: steals and blocks, just with Toronto being a very high
- 19:27Speaker 3: volume rim scoring offense. So I could, you know, I
- 19:32Speaker 3: could see Chris Ups going for like twenty to twelve
- 19:34Speaker 3: with like two or three blocks, and he easily is
- 19:37Speaker 3: topping forty points. And the power forward center eligibility at
- 19:40Speaker 3: seven point three K makes him a very very strong
- 19:43Speaker 3: tournament option. I would say have a little bit of
- 19:46Speaker 3: interest in Trey and Jalen Johnson as well. I think
- 19:48Speaker 3: the matchup is pretty good for both of them in
- 19:51Speaker 3: different ways. The Raptors weren't very good against transition scores
- 19:54Speaker 3: last year and Jalen Johnson. If you've been around for
- 19:57Speaker 3: however long I've been with with ship It, then you
- 19:59Speaker 3: know how much I like Jayalen Johnson. But I just
- 20:01Speaker 3: think that he's extremely talented, got a very very high
- 20:04Speaker 3: ceiling as the NBA player, and I like how they
- 20:07Speaker 3: stagger him and Trey Young in the second unit. They'll
- 20:09Speaker 3: give Jaalen Johnson more of a the longer leash in
- 20:12Speaker 3: the second unit to let him kind of run the
- 20:14Speaker 3: point a little bit. They don't really have a true
- 20:16Speaker 3: point guard behind Trey that's going to see meaningful minutes.
- 20:19Speaker 3: I would say it's going to be Jalen running things.
- 20:21Speaker 3: Him and Dison Daniels probably getting most of the secondary
- 20:23Speaker 3: ball handling usage, so I like him a good bit here.
- 20:27Speaker 3: And the Toronto side, I agree, I think Ingram is
- 20:30Speaker 3: going to be the strongest option. Scotty Barnes is kind
- 20:33Speaker 3: of interesting as well, just kind of falls into that
- 20:35Speaker 3: same Paulo and Karl Anthony Towns bucket where he's probably
- 20:38Speaker 3: a little bit too cheap for his talent and upside.
- 20:42Speaker 3: I wish that the prices were down a little bit
- 20:44Speaker 3: on these guys because I love the matchup for quickly,
- 20:46Speaker 3: but seven point one K is a lot to pay
- 20:48Speaker 3: for a guy that realistic could be the fourth option
- 20:51Speaker 3: on offense. I don't think that I'm gonna get too
- 20:53Speaker 3: much outside of Scotty Barnes and Brandon Ington. Probably a
- 20:56Speaker 3: max two spot here for me.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Yes, Sam, Honestly, I'm with you on your assessment of
- 21:02Speaker 1: basically this entire game, especially the Atlanta side. I also
- 21:05Speaker 1: I am really high on Jalen Johnson tough tonight. He's
- 21:09Speaker 1: like the Pivots pivot like he's the same price basically
- 21:12Speaker 1: as Mobiley and Zion. He'll definitely be way lower on
- 21:16Speaker 1: than Zion. He'll probably share similar ownership with Mobili wouldn't
- 21:20Speaker 1: be surprised if he's a little bit less owned than
- 21:22Speaker 1: MOBILEI you know, talking fractions here, but still so I
- 21:25Speaker 1: like that playing tournaments a lot. I think trade just
- 21:28Speaker 1: looks good from any format type perspective. He's not gonna
- 21:31Speaker 1: get a ton of love, so gonna look better in tournaments.
- 21:36Speaker 1: That said, I will say, especially at the beginning of
- 21:38Speaker 1: the year, ownership projections are hard to nail down just
- 21:42Speaker 1: because I haven't seen the field play these guys yet,
- 21:45Speaker 1: so a little bit tricky. So take the ownership and
- 21:48Speaker 1: all projections for the most part, with a little bit
- 21:50Speaker 1: of a grain of salt to start the.
- 21:51Speaker 3: Year, Yeah, for sure. Next game on Tip is an
- 21:57Speaker 3: interesting one. I'm surprised to see the Celtics face here
- 22:00Speaker 3: just considering the strength of their roster. But you know,
- 22:05Speaker 3: we've got the Sixers heading into Boston to take on
- 22:07Speaker 3: the Celtics with no I mean the Celtics. It's a
- 22:11Speaker 3: revamped roster here, but injury wise, it's just Tatum that's
- 22:13Speaker 3: out and the Jaylen Brown is questionable though he did practice,
- 22:16Speaker 3: but they'll be without you know, Al Horford, chrisolps porzingis
- 22:21Speaker 3: a bunch of other guys. It's gonna make things a
- 22:23Speaker 3: little bit tricky to nail down for their rotation starting off.
- 22:27Speaker 3: And then for the Sixers, they'll be without Paul George,
- 22:30Speaker 3: Jered McCain and Trenton Watford. So two decently big rotation
- 22:33Speaker 3: pieces in Jered McCain and Paul George.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:36Speaker 3: Nick Nurse is a great coach for fantasy because he
- 22:39Speaker 3: loves to just run his guys up for a ton
- 22:41Speaker 3: of minutes. And I think that the Sixers are kind
- 22:43Speaker 3: of in a pretty good spot here. Just I just
- 22:44Speaker 3: don't think that the Celtics are going to have that
- 22:47Speaker 3: same level of defense that we've seen from them in
- 22:48Speaker 3: the past. Losing Al Horford and chrisols porzingis download to
- 22:52Speaker 3: kind of make their interior defense a lot worse.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Uh.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Yeah, the Philly side looks pretty good here. I would
- 22:58Speaker 3: say it's a little bit tougher when you add in
- 23:01Speaker 3: a healthy Embid, although he's probably only gonna play around
- 23:04Speaker 3: thirty minutes I would guess to start the season, but
- 23:07Speaker 3: it just makes it a little bit tougher just because
- 23:09Speaker 3: he's such a usage dominator that he's kind of the
- 23:12Speaker 3: guy that I have the most interest in. But you
- 23:14Speaker 3: do get some decent value in a guy like VJ. Edgecombe,
- 23:16Speaker 3: who's a extremely talented rookie, you know, high first round
- 23:20Speaker 3: pick in a good matchup where he'll avoid the elite
- 23:24Speaker 3: defense of Derek White. So I kind of think that
- 23:26Speaker 3: those two are the guys that stand out for me
- 23:28Speaker 3: in Philly. Unless you have a different opinion on the
- 23:31Speaker 3: Maxim beads.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Nah, for me, it's really umbeat or nothing, not even
- 23:35Speaker 1: Edgecombe for me personally, Like I like Edgecomb as a prospect,
- 23:38Speaker 1: but I think his right now he's better on the
- 23:41Speaker 1: defensive side, Like he still projects pretty well for five K,
- 23:44Speaker 1: so I don't think he's a bad play and he's
- 23:46Speaker 1: getting some ownership. He's just not someone that I'm likely
- 23:48Speaker 1: to play. It's umbeid or nothing to me. He's probably
- 23:51Speaker 1: the biggest question mark X factor on the slate. Not
- 23:55Speaker 1: gonna be surprised if he ends up extremely highly owned
- 23:58Speaker 1: because he well and his ceiling at eighty seven hundred
- 24:02Speaker 1: is just massive. There are a lot of guys under
- 24:04Speaker 1: price on this slate. Obviously we haven't even gotten to PJ.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Washington yet who's in a boat of his own. But
- 24:10Speaker 1: Embiid at eighty seven hundred, like, if he plays a
- 24:14Speaker 1: couple more than the thirty minutes you know we're or
- 24:16Speaker 1: year or whoever's projecting, then he starts to look like
- 24:20Speaker 1: one of not the best plays on the slate. He
- 24:22Speaker 1: could easily play less than that. Not exactly sure what
- 24:25Speaker 1: to make of Embiid, but he's hard to get away from.
- 24:29Speaker 1: He's a definite fade at your own risk type in
- 24:31Speaker 1: all formats.
- 24:32Speaker 3: To me, yeah, I would agree with that. He's a
- 24:37Speaker 3: career one point sixty three fantasy port from mental producer.
- 24:40Speaker 3: So if you just projected him for that at thirty minutes,
- 24:43Speaker 3: I mean, he's looking like one of the best values
- 24:45Speaker 3: on the entire slate. I just don't know if there's
- 24:48Speaker 3: ever going to be a time we see a healthy
- 24:50Speaker 3: and bead at eight point seven case. So it's kind of,
- 24:52Speaker 3: you know, same same guys like we mentioned earlier, it's
- 24:54Speaker 3: just kind of played it before he gets too expensive. Yeah,
- 24:59Speaker 3: I think that the I mean, Edgecomb's ownership is coming
- 25:02Speaker 3: up a lot, but there's a good chance that Nick
- 25:05Speaker 3: Nurse just plays him like thirty six thirty seven minutes
- 25:08Speaker 3: right off the bat. I believe in a couple of
- 25:10Speaker 3: the preseason games he played like forty minutes or was
- 25:13Speaker 3: pacing for forty minutes. And we know that Nick Nurse
- 25:15Speaker 3: is gonna want to play his guys a ton of minutes,
- 25:17Speaker 3: especially if it's a close game. I mean, they're five
- 25:21Speaker 3: four and a half point underdogs here, so I could
- 25:22Speaker 3: see Maxi and Edgecombe on the better side of thirty
- 25:26Speaker 3: five plus minutes here. So I think that that just
- 25:29Speaker 3: kind of makes him an interesting option in the mid
- 25:31Speaker 3: tier at five K. Just for all the unknowns of
- 25:33Speaker 3: a really good rookie the Boston side, it's definitely worth
- 25:39Speaker 3: talking about. It's gonna be tough to know what they're
- 25:42Speaker 3: gonna do on a nightly basis. I think that Joe
- 25:44Speaker 3: Mizzoula has even said that they're going to run out
- 25:46Speaker 3: different starting rotations each night, so even when we see
- 25:49Speaker 3: projected here on the stone might be different than what
- 25:51Speaker 3: they actually run out there. Though, I think that this
- 25:53Speaker 3: is probably what we're gonna see. Yeah, I have a
- 25:58Speaker 3: little bit of interest in Jalen Brown Quiet and Peyton
- 26:01Speaker 3: Pritchrid just because you know, you take away high usage
- 26:04Speaker 3: guys like Porzingis and Jason Tatum. It's going to make
- 26:06Speaker 3: these guys look a lot better. Derek White had probably
- 26:08Speaker 3: the best preseason of anybody in the league. He was
- 26:11Speaker 3: going crazy, like playing a ton of minutes and just
- 26:15Speaker 3: putting up a ton of points. He's going to see
- 26:16Speaker 3: a lot more usage, especially if Jaalen Brown is at
- 26:18Speaker 3: all limited. So I think that those guys are definitely
- 26:21Speaker 3: in play. I would probably say that Jalen Brown is
- 26:25Speaker 3: my favorite option on the Boston side, simply because we've
- 26:28Speaker 3: seen it from him before with Tatum out, and he's
- 26:31Speaker 3: definitely gonna lead the team in usage unless you know
- 26:34Speaker 3: they have a different plan for him. But he does
- 26:36Speaker 3: come in with a Q tax, so a little bit
- 26:39Speaker 3: less confidence in that. And then Pritchard is kind of
- 26:41Speaker 3: just a bet on talent because he's a guy that
- 26:44Speaker 3: probably should be starting for any other team last year
- 26:47Speaker 3: just how good he was, and now he'll definitely get
- 26:49Speaker 3: the longer leash. So I'm okay with all those guys,
- 26:52Speaker 3: but wouldn't say that I'm really going out of my
- 26:54Speaker 3: way to play any of them.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most of Boston is multi entry type pieces.
- 27:00Speaker 1: I won't be surprised at off I end up with
- 27:01Speaker 1: zero Boston. I think Jalen Brown is the best piece,
- 27:05Speaker 1: but man, he's pricey at eighty nine hundred compared to
- 27:08Speaker 1: where other guys are on this slate. So like, as
- 27:11Speaker 1: of right now, if I were building at this moment,
- 27:13Speaker 1: I don't think I would add any Boston. So that's
- 27:15Speaker 1: how I'm seeing it.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Yep, definitely could not go wrong there for single to
- 27:20Speaker 3: three max. Now we jump to another game. I think
- 27:23Speaker 3: is very interesting for me. I've been an adamant on
- 27:27Speaker 3: just picking on this Bulls team pretty much every night
- 27:29Speaker 3: that they're on a main slate, just because they play
- 27:31Speaker 3: so fast and they have huge, huge holes in their defense,
- 27:35Speaker 3: mainly with the rim defense being so bad. Their pick
- 27:37Speaker 3: and roll defense was terrible last year. I expected to
- 27:40Speaker 3: be pretty bad this year because Vich is just a
- 27:43Speaker 3: he's just a stone feed up. Yeah, he's He's terrible,
- 27:46Speaker 3: probably one of the worst worst center defenders in the
- 27:50Speaker 3: entire league. So this one is really intriguing for me.
- 27:53Speaker 3: I'll let you start off here, what do you like
- 27:56Speaker 3: about this one from the Piston side, and then you
- 27:58Speaker 3: could go into the Bulls afterwards.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm with you. I wanted to pick on
- 28:03Speaker 1: the Bulls, Like just a really really good matchup from
- 28:05Speaker 1: Detroit start and starts and ends with Kid Cunningham for me,
- 28:12Speaker 1: right up there with Porzingis and we'll talk about a
- 28:14Speaker 1: couple other guys. Is my favorite play on the slate.
- 28:17Speaker 1: I love Kate here. I love him coming into this
- 28:19Speaker 1: year likely to be a core play for me here.
- 28:22Speaker 1: There's a bunch of good spend up options and a
- 28:24Speaker 1: bunch of good point guards, but Kate is my favorite.
- 28:28Speaker 1: I think he's got a better than most chance of
- 28:30Speaker 1: being optimal here, just a really good spot. I like
- 28:33Speaker 1: him coming into the year at under ten k. I'll
- 28:35Speaker 1: take that. Doesn't seem quote unquote cheap, but not going
- 28:39Speaker 1: to be surprised at all if this is one of
- 28:41Speaker 1: the only slates he's under ten k for the entire year.
- 28:44Speaker 1: So I'm going to take that and run.
- 28:46Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that there's something that is just
- 28:50Speaker 3: kind of like my opinion base. But I could see
- 28:53Speaker 3: Cad be like he strikes me as a type of
- 28:55Speaker 3: guy that's like highly motivated by a loss. And last
- 28:59Speaker 3: year they were so close to having, you know, a
- 29:01Speaker 3: deeper run in the playoffs, but the Nicks and him
- 29:03Speaker 3: coming away with that but I could see him just
- 29:05Speaker 3: kind of coming in here extremely motivated and taking a
- 29:07Speaker 3: huge lead, because I mean, he's been getting better each
- 29:10Speaker 3: and every year that he's in the league. I would say,
- 29:13Speaker 3: you know, if all things rekal, he's probably a guy
- 29:16Speaker 3: that could compete for MVPs in the near future. So
- 29:19Speaker 3: I think that he's gonna be highly motivated to come
- 29:21Speaker 3: out here and get a win on the road right away.
- 29:23Speaker 3: But I agree, he's probably gonna be one of my
- 29:25Speaker 3: core plays as well, a guy that I'm looking to
- 29:27Speaker 3: build around. I just think that this is a really
- 29:29Speaker 3: good spot for him, but I also like a lot
- 29:33Speaker 3: of the spots for the Detroit SA. I would say
- 29:36Speaker 3: even Chicago looks pretty interesting for different reasons, just mainly
- 29:39Speaker 3: due to injuries. But Jalen Duran seven point seven k
- 29:42Speaker 3: is a really really high price tag, but he was
- 29:44Speaker 3: great last year versus the Bulls averaged forty four DraftKings points.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Just a great matchup as well, with the Bulls being
- 29:50Speaker 3: one of the worst room defenses and worst pick and
- 29:53Speaker 3: rollman defenses in the league. Him and Kid have a
- 29:55Speaker 3: ton of chemistry. Still super young, so he's capable of playing,
- 30:00Speaker 3: you know, low thirties minutes. I doubt that they'll do
- 30:02Speaker 3: that just because they like Isaiah Stewart a lot. But
- 30:05Speaker 3: the pace of the play kind of sets up well
- 30:07Speaker 3: for during He's very, very athletic and able to run
- 30:10Speaker 3: up and down the floor, so I like him. I
- 30:12Speaker 3: think Asar Thompson is another guy that you can kind
- 30:14Speaker 3: of just bet on talent. Obviously, you know, amend has
- 30:16Speaker 3: kind of gotten most of the praise just with how
- 30:18Speaker 3: good he's been with Houston, but a lot of that's
- 30:21Speaker 3: because Theasar was injured his first year in the league.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Well I don't know it's really an injury, but you know,
- 30:26Speaker 3: the blood clot thing. But he was really coming on
- 30:28Speaker 3: strong last year, did pretty perform pretty well in the playoffs,
- 30:31Speaker 3: and he averaged one point four Fantasy points per minute
- 30:35Speaker 3: versus Chicago last year. Again, I think the pace of
- 30:37Speaker 3: play helps him a lot. The Detroit team is going
- 30:40Speaker 3: to be a team that's kind of focused on turnovers
- 30:42Speaker 3: and getting out in transition, which I think is another
- 30:45Speaker 3: plus for U Sar. So I've kind of taken a
- 30:49Speaker 3: stronger stand in MM on the Sorry. I just think
- 30:51Speaker 3: it's gonna be under own and if there's a chance
- 30:52Speaker 3: that he's playing like thirty to thirty two minutes out
- 30:54Speaker 3: of the gate, then the upside is very very high
- 30:57Speaker 3: for him. Those three kind of stick out in a
- 30:59Speaker 3: pretty big way for me on Detroit and then the
- 31:01Speaker 3: Chicago side, What are you thinking on there, because it's
- 31:04Speaker 3: looking like some decent value on that side in Trey
- 31:07Speaker 3: Jones and maybe I WoT assume, but they're not getting
- 31:09Speaker 3: a ton of ownership for what I'm seeing.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Yeah, so real quick on a SAR, like, couldn't you
- 31:13Speaker 1: just see him taking a major leap this year? Like
- 31:16Speaker 1: I feel like he's won. We're being early on. You
- 31:19Speaker 1: can't really go wrong, Like certainly you could end up
- 31:22Speaker 1: being wrong tonight, but I just think in this matchup,
- 31:24Speaker 1: I agree with all your points. His upside is real
- 31:27Speaker 1: here from the Chicago side, Sorry, from the Chicago side.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Two guys I'm looking at you called one of them out,
- 31:33Speaker 1: Trey Jones. I think he looks like not the best
- 31:36Speaker 1: value on the slate because that's PJ. Washington, but right
- 31:39Speaker 1: up there with anyone else at four K, solid fantasy producer.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Good matchup for the Chicago side at all, not nearly
- 31:45Speaker 1: as good, but not a matchup I'm like shying away from.
- 31:48Speaker 1: So I like Trey Jones here, and then similar to
- 31:51Speaker 1: what we're just talking about with a sar, I think
- 31:54Speaker 1: you could make bets on Bozaliss and that jump. Also,
- 31:57Speaker 1: he's the guy whose game was built for fantasy. So
- 32:00Speaker 1: I like Trey Jones as the top value piece. But
- 32:03Speaker 1: if I were getting to like a piece of Chicago
- 32:05Speaker 1: that I thought could like, really really do work, it's boozeless.
- 32:11Speaker 3: I one agree. I love Buzellis as a talent. I'm
- 32:15Speaker 3: extremely salty because the Jazz pass on him in favor
- 32:18Speaker 3: of Cody Williams, and I just think that is going
- 32:20Speaker 3: to be something that we probably regret a lot, and
- 32:24Speaker 3: probably I mean I regretted it last year, but I
- 32:25Speaker 3: could see in like three to five years Cody Williams
- 32:28Speaker 3: just a back end rotation player for a team like
- 32:31Speaker 3: the Hornets and Buzillis as a superstar. So I'm definitely
- 32:34Speaker 3: kicking myself for not applying for a front office job
- 32:37Speaker 3: for the Jazz.
- 32:39Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you can't kick yourself, but then
- 32:41Speaker 1: when you say for not applying for the job, Okay,
- 32:43Speaker 1: I get it, I guess you'll kick yourself a little bit.
- 32:46Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree one hundred percent with you on
- 32:48Speaker 3: the bull stuff. I have a little bit of interest
- 32:51Speaker 3: in Io as well, just because I could see him
- 32:52Speaker 3: playing a lot of minutes. His on ball defense is
- 32:54Speaker 3: going to be needed here if they decide to throw
- 32:57Speaker 3: or you know, have him guard Kate for a little bit.
- 32:59Speaker 3: And really his only competition for playing time is Isaac mccoro,
- 33:03Speaker 3: who literally has zero offensive game. I think that they're
- 33:06Speaker 3: gonna have to score points here, so I would say
- 33:08Speaker 3: that I owe much better option in this game in particular.
- 33:11Speaker 3: But yeah, Trey Jones looks pretty good. Not sure if
- 33:13Speaker 3: he's going to be starting both Kobe White out definitely
- 33:16Speaker 3: gonna see an increase role. See I like, I like
- 33:19Speaker 3: those guys on the bull side. Next game is another one.
- 33:22Speaker 3: I believe this one has the highest over under on
- 33:24Speaker 3: the entire slate, with the Pelicans heading to Memphis to
- 33:27Speaker 3: take on the Grizzlies, a lot of injuries to talk
- 33:29Speaker 3: about in this one. I think Memphis is pretty much
- 33:33Speaker 3: always gonna have guys out for whatever reason. They got
- 33:36Speaker 3: to fix, you know, something with their training stuff because
- 33:38Speaker 3: they're always injured. It feels like, but so we have.
- 33:42Speaker 1: Out season hasn't even started yet, Like.
- 33:44Speaker 3: Yeah, you have five rotation guys that are already injured
- 33:48Speaker 3: for a lengthy period of time, so they got to
- 33:49Speaker 3: get got to get it figured out over there. But
- 33:52Speaker 3: Brandon Clark is out, Zach Edi is out, So two
- 33:54Speaker 3: front core guys, Ty Jerome and Scottie Pippen are out,
- 33:57Speaker 3: two guards, and then Vince Williams is out. It doesn't
- 34:01Speaker 3: really open up a ton of value just because for
- 34:04Speaker 3: whatever reason, DraftKings really focused on pricing these guys up properly,
- 34:08Speaker 3: but left PJ. Washington at three K. So we gotta,
- 34:12Speaker 3: you know, sift through that a little bit. The Pelican side,
- 34:15Speaker 3: they look pretty fully healthy outside of a couple front
- 34:18Speaker 3: court guys. Cavon Loney will be out, Carlo Mnkovic will
- 34:21Speaker 3: be out, and then de Jounce Murray is still dealing
- 34:23Speaker 3: with the Achilles tear is going to be out again. Yeah,
- 34:27Speaker 3: is there anything that sticks out to you here? Because
- 34:29Speaker 3: I think that this is a game I would want
- 34:31Speaker 3: to get to, but it seems like it's gonna you're
- 34:34Speaker 3: gonna have to do a lot of manually adjusting to
- 34:36Speaker 3: projections in order to make it work. Just with the
- 34:38Speaker 3: way that the pricing is shaking out.
- 34:40Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think two guys stand out,
- 34:42Speaker 1: like on the surface, one doesn't really stand out, which
- 34:45Speaker 1: is my favorite play from Memphis. It's ugly Jock Landell
- 34:48Speaker 1: four k, presuming he starts projected for you know, anywhere
- 34:52Speaker 1: from like twenty to twenty two fantasy points, fine to them, Like,
- 34:56Speaker 1: I think there are better value plays on the slate,
- 34:58Speaker 1: but on a lot of slates, I think he would
- 34:59Speaker 1: look much better. So wanted to shot him out and
- 35:02Speaker 1: then Zion from the New Orleans side, like average forty
- 35:06Speaker 1: five draftings points per game last year in twenty eight
- 35:09Speaker 1: minutes supposedly and from pictures and videos in pristine shape, Like,
- 35:14Speaker 1: we don't know exactly how much he's going to play,
- 35:16Speaker 1: and you're paying for it at nine k or eighty
- 35:18Speaker 1: nine hundred, and there are obviously other good pivots, but
- 35:21Speaker 1: he's always been an elite producer dfs regular wise in shape.
- 35:27Speaker 1: At this price point, presumably playing full minutes or whatever
- 35:31Speaker 1: that might be for him, I'm certainly at least interested.
- 35:35Speaker 1: How about you? How do you feel about Zion?
- 35:37Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I love Zions and I agree with you.
- 35:39Speaker 3: He looks really good, lost a ton of weight, which
- 35:42Speaker 3: I don't know if that's necessarily a good or obviously
- 35:44Speaker 3: it's good because he was kind of getting up there.
- 35:46Speaker 3: But he is a guy that does rely on his
- 35:48Speaker 3: strength and athleticism a bit. But yeah, I mean, he's
- 35:52Speaker 3: a guy that's always had one of the best roles
- 35:55Speaker 3: in the entire league when he's healthy. Thirty four percent
- 35:57Speaker 3: usage rate, thirty two and a half percent assists for sage,
- 36:00Speaker 3: thirteen percent rebounding rate last season, average one point five
- 36:04Speaker 3: to seven fantasy points per minute. If he's playing like
- 36:07Speaker 3: thirty two minutes off the bat, which I see him
- 36:09Speaker 3: projected for around there at some you know, some different sources,
- 36:13Speaker 3: then he looks underpriced for sure. And I would say
- 36:16Speaker 3: that the matchup looks great just with the lack of
- 36:19Speaker 3: depth in the front court that the Memphis Grizzlies are
- 36:22Speaker 3: going to provide. He likely doesn't have Jaron Jackson Junior
- 36:25Speaker 3: guarding him just because they like to run Jaron more
- 36:28Speaker 3: as like a floater and you know, it could pick
- 36:29Speaker 3: up some steals and blocks. But even if he does
- 36:32Speaker 3: guard him like, it's not like Jaren is incapable of
- 36:35Speaker 3: getting into foul trouble. There's so many times this past
- 36:38Speaker 3: couple of seasons where Jared will be chalk and he
- 36:40Speaker 3: picks up two thousand in the first two minutes of
- 36:42Speaker 3: the game, so I think that there's kind of a
- 36:44Speaker 3: lot working in Zion's favorite here. So I do really
- 36:48Speaker 3: like the price sag and I like the matchup here
- 36:50Speaker 3: for Zion. Some other guys that kind of stand out
- 36:53Speaker 3: from a matchup perspective on the Pelican side would be
- 36:56Speaker 3: Trey Murphy and Sadik Bay. Grizzlies were one of the
- 36:59Speaker 3: worst catching shooting defenses against three three point shooters last season.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Those two guys definitely stand out from a matchup perspective.
- 37:06Speaker 3: I think Cidy Bay is kind of interesting just because
- 37:09Speaker 3: it's been a while since we've seen him, and I
- 37:10Speaker 3: think that he is a pretty talented player should fit
- 37:13Speaker 3: in decently here. I just don't really know what position
- 37:16Speaker 3: he's going to play because they don't have a lot
- 37:18Speaker 3: of depth at the center position. So if he's gonna
- 37:20Speaker 3: be if they're gonna be running more small ball, then
- 37:22Speaker 3: that is kind of interesting, just because he could get
- 37:25Speaker 3: a few more rebounds and if he hits a couple
- 37:27Speaker 3: of threes, could pay off the three point six k
- 37:28Speaker 3: tag in a pretty big way. So I think he's
- 37:31Speaker 3: kind of interesting. The Memphis side is going to be
- 37:34Speaker 3: really tough to make these guys work. I mean, they
- 37:36Speaker 3: did a really really good job pricing them up. I
- 37:38Speaker 3: would say John Morant fully healthy coming into the season
- 37:41Speaker 3: after the you know, the ankle scare tough matchup versus
- 37:45Speaker 3: Herb Jones, but he's honestly done really good against him
- 37:48Speaker 3: in their career nine matchups, averaging forty nine and a
- 37:51Speaker 3: half DK points. Doesn't have to compete for touches with
- 37:55Speaker 3: Scottie Pippen or Ty Jerome for a few weeks. It's
- 37:57Speaker 3: just gonna be him and Jaron running the show. The
- 38:00Speaker 3: Pelicans were bottom two rim defense last season, so really
- 38:03Speaker 3: really good matchup for a drive heavy guard. And you
- 38:05Speaker 3: could honestly say the same for Jared. He's going to
- 38:07Speaker 3: be handling the ball a lot more and does have
- 38:09Speaker 3: a really good dribble drive game. So both those guys
- 38:12Speaker 3: kind of matchup wise, are in a pretty pretty good spot.
- 38:14Speaker 2: Here.
- 38:16Speaker 3: One guy at three K I would mention, just because
- 38:18Speaker 3: he was kind of, you know, making some waves in
- 38:20Speaker 3: the preseason. Is that rookie Javone Small going to get
- 38:23Speaker 3: the backup plun guard minutes you know, eighteen to twenty two.
- 38:26Speaker 3: Maybe there's a little bit of overlap with him and
- 38:28Speaker 3: joh I think that he's kind of worth mentioning.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely worth mentioning. If there weren't like more three
- 38:33Speaker 1: K guys I liked better that project better, he would
- 38:36Speaker 1: certainly be more in play for me in one fifty sets.
- 38:39Speaker 1: I think, certainly include him in your field, like for sure.
- 38:42Speaker 1: And I like the Jock Hall because like he's another one.
- 38:45Speaker 1: It's the beginning of the season. These guys haven't played yet.
- 38:48Speaker 1: It's not as easy to project as it will be
- 38:51Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. And buying a lull on
- 38:53Speaker 1: jaw At it's not a cheap price tag, but it's
- 38:56Speaker 1: not crazy expensive at No ownership is intriguing to me.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Maybe he comes into the season with a chip on
- 39:01Speaker 1: his shoulder and you mentioned Herb Jones, like he's the
- 39:04Speaker 1: type of guy that when he's healthy and motivated, he's
- 39:07Speaker 1: matchup proof.
- 39:08Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, all right, next game. Sorry, we're not getting
- 39:13Speaker 3: to a lot of questions right now, trying to you know,
- 39:15Speaker 3: power through this this big slave with all the news.
- 39:18Speaker 3: So we're gonna keep moving on. But if there's some
- 39:20Speaker 3: time at the very end, if we get this done
- 39:22Speaker 3: in less than an hour, then we'll definitely hit some questions.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Next game on Slate, we have the Wizards headed to
- 39:28Speaker 3: Milwaukee Tech on the Bucks. I'm interested in this one
- 39:31Speaker 3: in the sense that I think Washington will be a
- 39:34Speaker 3: little bit more competitive early on this season as long
- 39:37Speaker 3: as they're healthy with CJ and Middleton. I mean, as
- 39:39Speaker 3: long as they're on the roster, because I wouldn't be
- 39:40Speaker 3: surprised if they get moved or I mean there's definite
- 39:43Speaker 3: gonna be vet games where they just take off, But
- 39:46Speaker 3: as long as they're playing, I mean, this team definitely
- 39:49Speaker 3: has a more impressive roster than they did last year,
- 39:51Speaker 3: which isn't really saying much, but they added Cam went More,
- 39:54Speaker 3: added Middleton, added TJ McCollum, you got the rookie Tray
- 39:57Speaker 3: Johnson who's got a pretty high ceiling, and then and
- 40:00Speaker 3: second year Bob Carents and looking to take a leap,
- 40:02Speaker 3: so I think that they could keep this game pretty close.
- 40:05Speaker 3: And then you have Milwaukee who's gonna be kind of
- 40:08Speaker 3: running out a new starting LAUP with the addition of
- 40:10Speaker 3: Myles Turner, which I think is a great addition to
- 40:12Speaker 3: the team. Getting another stretch big to replace another you know,
- 40:17Speaker 3: really slow and old brook Lopez. So they'll we'll see
- 40:22Speaker 3: how it looks for them. They just resigned to aj Green
- 40:24Speaker 3: as well. But it's all about Yannis here. I think Washington,
- 40:28Speaker 3: I don't think I'll get to any of these guys,
- 40:30Speaker 3: to be honest, maybe really nobody. Actually, I don't think
- 40:34Speaker 3: that there's anything that really sticks out, but the Milwaukee side.
- 40:37Speaker 3: It's kind of Yiannis or bust for me. Do you
- 40:39Speaker 3: see anything differently than what I'm seeing here?
- 40:42Speaker 1: I don't speaking of seeing things. I'm just seeing someone
- 40:44Speaker 1: in the chat say, oh, Zion empic like like those
- 40:46Speaker 1: epic and it made me chuckle. So I wanted to
- 40:48Speaker 1: start that out now it's it starts and ends like
- 40:51Speaker 1: this entire game with Yannis and I kind of came
- 40:54Speaker 1: into this slate and ownership is showing that Yannis is
- 40:58Speaker 1: really really difficult to get away from. And he is,
- 41:01Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I mean he projects significantly better
- 41:04Speaker 1: than everyone else on this slate. But the more we
- 41:07Speaker 1: talk this out, the more I do like a whole
- 41:11Speaker 1: bunch of guys like between I don't know eighty five
- 41:14Speaker 1: and ninety five hundred and I think you can make
- 41:17Speaker 1: really really good lineups with playing a bunch of those
- 41:20Speaker 1: guys and not Yiannis. I think the highest ROI lineups
- 41:24Speaker 1: are gonna be the line lineups with Giannis and the value.
- 41:28Speaker 1: So he is really tough to get away from. It's
- 41:31Speaker 1: just a massive slate and he is He's gonna be
- 41:34Speaker 1: close to fifty percent owned, So just an interesting talking point.
- 41:38Speaker 1: He's the best player on the board. He projects like seven, eight,
- 41:42Speaker 1: nine Fantasy points better than anyone else. So again certainly
- 41:46Speaker 1: a fade at your own risk type, but at this
- 41:49Speaker 1: price point, at this ownership, with other really good plays
- 41:51Speaker 1: on the slate, you're gonna need a healthy score from him,
- 41:54Speaker 1: so he's likely to get it. But just wanted to
- 41:56Speaker 1: talk it out.
- 41:57Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you definitely don't need any reasons to not
- 42:00Speaker 3: play honest in this match. I mean, I don't think
- 42:02Speaker 3: that the Wizards are going to be much better than
- 42:05Speaker 3: they were last year, especially with you know, defensively, but yeah,
- 42:10Speaker 3: you brought some good points. This is kind of an
- 42:12Speaker 3: early on the season, I would say, is the time
- 42:14Speaker 3: to take shots away from that? And ownership is you know,
- 42:18Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit more inaccurate. I'm seeing You're
- 42:20Speaker 3: looking at a couple of different sources, and I see
- 42:22Speaker 3: him already like forty percent in some places and then
- 42:25Speaker 3: down to like thirteen at others. So it's gonna be, yeah,
- 42:27Speaker 3: interesting to see where he comes in at.
- 42:29Speaker 1: He won't be lower than like, he won't be around thirteen.
- 42:32Speaker 1: But I don't know if he gets all the way
- 42:33Speaker 1: up to fifty because there's so many good plays and
- 42:36Speaker 1: a guy I could see ending up a lot higher
- 42:38Speaker 1: on than some places are projecting his EMBD. So it's
- 42:41Speaker 1: kind of to your point, ownership projections are difficult to
- 42:44Speaker 1: gauge right now, which just there's a lot of unknown.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. All right, so Jannis are busting that
- 42:51Speaker 3: last game. We have an interesting matchup here. The my
- 42:55Speaker 3: Utah Jazz got the Clippers coming into town with a
- 42:59Speaker 3: couple of injuries a little, you know, a few note
- 43:01Speaker 3: where the injuries for the Jazz, I would say, there's
- 43:03Speaker 3: not really much. On the Clipper side. They look fully healthy.
- 43:06Speaker 3: It looked like they're going to be a pretty solid
- 43:07Speaker 3: team in the West with some of the additions that
- 43:10Speaker 3: they made. I really like the moves that they made
- 43:12Speaker 3: with John Collins and Brook Lopez. But for the Jazz.
- 43:16Speaker 3: We will have no Isaiah Collier tonight, which is a
- 43:19Speaker 3: plus for Cante, George and Walter Clayton Junior. And then
- 43:22Speaker 3: George Niyang is out thank god. If you know, if
- 43:27Speaker 3: you've been around ship, but you know how much I
- 43:29Speaker 3: love George Niang and the Ace Bailey is off the
- 43:32Speaker 3: injury report tonight with the illness. He also had ten
- 43:35Speaker 3: to nine US in both knees. Was playing a ton
- 43:36Speaker 3: in the preseason. Looked really really good. Excited about him
- 43:39Speaker 3: this season. Kick it over to you. Do you like
- 43:43Speaker 3: this game at all? The Jazz were one of the
- 43:44Speaker 3: worst defenses in the league and kind of a team
- 43:47Speaker 3: you always wanted to pick on last season. Not sure
- 43:49Speaker 3: much has really changed this year, but it'll be you know,
- 43:53Speaker 3: we gotta wait and see if they're going to be competitive.
- 43:55Speaker 3: I think that their win total this season is a
- 43:58Speaker 3: little bit too low. I think that they're gonna a
- 43:59Speaker 3: little bit better. But from a DFS perspective, do you
- 44:02Speaker 3: like anything in this game?
- 44:05Speaker 1: Not a lot? I think to your point, like, the
- 44:07Speaker 1: Clippers are in a really good spot, but they're healthy
- 44:09Speaker 1: and priced appropriately, so I don't think any one of
- 44:12Speaker 1: them stand out as like elite plays on this slate
- 44:15Speaker 1: and ownership kind of speaks to that none of them
- 44:17Speaker 1: are getting love. I don't know if this is ugly
- 44:21Speaker 1: or not, but my favorite play from this game, like
- 44:23Speaker 1: pretty clearly, I don't even think it's close. Is Walter Clayton.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Three K certainly a low floor here because he's a rookie.
- 44:32Speaker 1: We don't know how much he's gonna play, but they
- 44:35Speaker 1: drafted him for a reason. Obviously, one of, if not
- 44:37Speaker 1: the most productive player in college last year at Florida
- 44:40Speaker 1: led them to a national title. Elite shot making ability
- 44:44Speaker 1: like he's three K in some places he projects the
- 44:46Speaker 1: closes for close to twenty fantasy points, so you don't
- 44:49Speaker 1: need it, especially with PJ. Washington. But I think he's
- 44:53Speaker 1: my second favorite three K player outside of Washington. So
- 44:55Speaker 1: I do like Clayton quite a bit. As of right now.
- 45:00Speaker 1: I'll have him in one of three, you know, not
- 45:03Speaker 1: three of three, probably not two of three, but more
- 45:06Speaker 1: likely two of three than zero of three.
- 45:09Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that shout. I agree with you. They're
- 45:11Speaker 3: a highly talented player. Should be should be a guy
- 45:15Speaker 3: that the Jazz line on at points this season. I
- 45:17Speaker 3: think that early on is probably the time you want
- 45:19Speaker 3: to play him with no callier because it's going to
- 45:21Speaker 3: be him Kiante running the show, and there will definitely
- 45:24Speaker 3: be times where they play them side by side. I
- 45:28Speaker 3: would say a guy to keep an eye on. Probably
- 45:30Speaker 3: not a play tonight, but I mean he might start.
- 45:33Speaker 3: But Bryce sens the ball has been really, really good
- 45:35Speaker 3: in the summer league and really good in the preseason.
- 45:38Speaker 3: I don't want to just like talk him up because
- 45:39Speaker 3: I'm a Jazz fan, but he looks like he's gonna
- 45:41Speaker 3: be one of the top three point shooters in the league.
- 45:43Speaker 3: I mean, he's just been shooting lights out and each
- 45:46Speaker 3: year is getting a little bit better. But I would
- 45:48Speaker 3: say Kiante is probably the highest upside option at six
- 45:52Speaker 3: point one. K should play a good amount of minutes,
- 45:55Speaker 3: was pretty solid in the preseason, posted some pretty good
- 45:57Speaker 3: usage rates, and I don't think that the defense to
- 46:00Speaker 3: matchup is too tough. Should see a lot of Bradley
- 46:02Speaker 3: Beal in the starting lineup and then probably some Chris
- 46:04Speaker 3: Dunn in the second unit when whenever they share the
- 46:07Speaker 3: courts together. But with Clarkson and sex and out, you know,
- 46:11Speaker 3: with shipped off in the offseason, it's gonna be him
- 46:13Speaker 3: leading the team in touch time. Not a great permanent guy,
- 46:17Speaker 3: but he does have games where he can pop off.
- 46:18Speaker 3: He's just very streaky, and I guess it's kind of
- 46:22Speaker 3: good and bad for DFS because it's you know, you're
- 46:24Speaker 3: always gonna get low ownership on him, but he does
- 46:26Speaker 3: have those forty plus pointers within his range of outcomes.
- 46:31Speaker 3: I would say, you know, the strength of the point
- 46:33Speaker 3: guard position is really good tonight, but I do think
- 46:35Speaker 3: James Harden is in play. He was really good against
- 46:37Speaker 3: the Jazz last year and they really made no upgrades
- 46:41Speaker 3: to you know, kind of I guess Taylor Hendricks getting
- 46:43Speaker 3: healthy will help their on ball defense, but James Harden
- 46:46Speaker 3: is James Harden. Jazz were bottom two in DVP versus
- 46:49Speaker 3: point guards last year and they're likely to be very
- 46:51Speaker 3: very bad again. Probably not going to pile up a
- 46:54Speaker 3: ton of points just because the Jazz were pretty good
- 46:56Speaker 3: in the pick and roll with Walker Kesser out there,
- 46:59Speaker 3: but he's a very safe bet for a double double.
- 47:02Speaker 3: And then I would say Kawhi is in a very
- 47:03Speaker 3: very good matchup here as well. But those are really
- 47:05Speaker 3: the only two guys that I'm considering. Zubak with Brook
- 47:08Speaker 3: Lopez taken away some minutes is a little bit too
- 47:10Speaker 3: expensive at AK. Next one me to talk about Walker Custer.
- 47:15Speaker 3: Don't only have much to say. I love Walker cast
- 47:18Speaker 3: I hope that they get a contract done, but I
- 47:19Speaker 3: don't think that this is the spot for him. Next
- 47:23Speaker 3: game is a another pretty fun real life game. We
- 47:27Speaker 3: have two former number one overall picks going up against
- 47:30Speaker 3: each other, with Wemban Yama and the Spurs heading into
- 47:33Speaker 3: Dallas to take on Cooper Flag and the Dallas Mavericks. Obviously,
- 47:39Speaker 3: the main talking point of this one is PJ. Washington
- 47:43Speaker 3: as mid priced the DraftKings interns forgot to reset his
- 47:46Speaker 3: price tag, so he's down at three k. I mean
- 47:49Speaker 3: he's gonna be one hundred percent owned in any anything
- 47:52Speaker 3: less than probably five max lineup or tournaments, maybe even
- 47:56Speaker 3: twenty max. I can see him being one hundred percent.
- 47:59Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be upwards of eighty five percent in
- 48:03Speaker 3: the big contests tonight. Not really a decision point, I
- 48:07Speaker 3: would say, I think you kind of just play him
- 48:09Speaker 3: and then you're filling out the rest of your roster.
- 48:12Speaker 3: Do you see this any differently.
- 48:14Speaker 1: Nah, not even a little bit, especially now. I mean
- 48:16Speaker 1: not even now, I mean Flag starting, so Washington's likely
- 48:19Speaker 1: to start a powerful flag starting at point guard, so
- 48:22Speaker 1: likely to see PJ in the starting lineup. It doesn't
- 48:24Speaker 1: even matter though, Like this is just a miss price.
- 48:27Speaker 1: I was thinking about this before the show. This is
- 48:30Speaker 1: likely to be the best value play all season, no
- 48:33Speaker 1: matter what else happens. Like sure, there could be cases
- 48:36Speaker 1: where like a three K point guard or center, other
- 48:39Speaker 1: guys are hurt, but I would say that it's like
- 48:43Speaker 1: even money that this is the best value play of
- 48:45Speaker 1: the entire season. So in NBA, you just play these
- 48:49Speaker 1: guys and move on. It's a free square. You can
- 48:52Speaker 1: do a lot with the other seven spots in your roster. Yeah.
- 48:56Speaker 3: Absolutely, what are you like in from this game outside
- 49:01Speaker 3: of the PJ Washington, Because I do think that there
- 49:02Speaker 3: are some decent options on both sides. I would say
- 49:05Speaker 3: that the Spurs side maybe a little bit less. So
- 49:08Speaker 3: you could probably make the case for Stefan Castle just
- 49:10Speaker 3: because he's going to be running the point, but he
- 49:12Speaker 3: still does have to compete with Wemby, Devin Bassel and
- 49:16Speaker 3: then Harper as well in the second unit, so it
- 49:20Speaker 3: might be a little bit tougher for him to pay
- 49:21Speaker 3: off that tag. Although he was great down the stretch
- 49:23Speaker 3: last season, but a lot of that was pretty much
- 49:26Speaker 3: most of that was without Victor woman Yama, who's a very,
- 49:30Speaker 3: very high usage guy. I would say Wemby is probably
- 49:33Speaker 3: the guy who looked to on the Spurs side. The
- 49:35Speaker 3: Maverick side, I don't know. I like Anthony Davis a lot.
- 49:39Speaker 3: I would say the matchup might be a little bit
- 49:41Speaker 3: tougher here, but I don't think that he's really a
- 49:43Speaker 3: guy you worry too much about the matchup because he's
- 49:45Speaker 3: been such a strong, permanent guy in his career. But
- 49:48Speaker 3: he will have a different role than usual in this
- 49:50Speaker 3: offense with Cooper Flag out there and taking on the
- 49:53Speaker 3: point guard role. They kind of talked about Ad getting
- 49:56Speaker 3: a little bit more more of like the Sabonis goon
- 50:00Speaker 3: type of role, where he's getting a little bit more
- 50:02Speaker 3: involved in the offense from passing perspective, which might take
- 50:05Speaker 3: away some of the high end scoring upside. But he's
- 50:08Speaker 3: just such a good permanent guys. I think that he's
- 50:10Speaker 3: pretty strong here. What are you see on the Dallas
- 50:13Speaker 3: Spur side.
- 50:14Speaker 1: Yeah, So honestly, with that Ad sentiment, I'll kind of
- 50:17Speaker 1: believe it when I see it. He's such a good
- 50:19Speaker 1: scorer inside that like, especially without Kyrie, this team is loaded,
- 50:24Speaker 1: but I feel like it's mostly loaded defensively with Kyrie gone.
- 50:28Speaker 1: You know, D'Angelo Russell certainly is good offensively in spurts,
- 50:31Speaker 1: but not nearly what Kyrie is. AD is too cheap here. Again,
- 50:36Speaker 1: this kind of speaks to how many good plays are
- 50:38Speaker 1: on this slate, so you can't play everyone. He's not
- 50:41Speaker 1: a muss player or anything like that, but he's like
- 50:44Speaker 1: ten to nine on Fandel, So it shows you that
- 50:47Speaker 1: at nine to seven he looks like a good play
- 50:49Speaker 1: on draftings. Interested to see exactly what his role is
- 50:53Speaker 1: with Flag at point guard, but at this price Tag,
- 50:57Speaker 1: I find it difficult to get away from him quite Frank,
- 51:00Speaker 1: I think Flag is interesting at seventy four hundred. He's
- 51:03Speaker 1: projecting well in a couple of places. You know came
- 51:07Speaker 1: in with. You know, he was awesome last year in college,
- 51:10Speaker 1: one of the better prospects we've seen in years, So
- 51:13Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he starts off the year like Gangbusters.
- 51:16Speaker 1: But I think for me, the only like priority piece
- 51:20Speaker 1: from this game is Ad. I like the Wemby shoutout.
- 51:23Speaker 1: He's a pivot like off of Giannis. There are just
- 51:26Speaker 1: guys I think project similarly that are cheaper, and there
- 51:29Speaker 1: are guys. As you mentioned, the point guard position is
- 51:32Speaker 1: loaded a bunch of guys like nine to ten k
- 51:35Speaker 1: I like a lot, So I probably won't play any
- 51:38Speaker 1: mb if any Wemby. If I do, it'll be one
- 51:40Speaker 1: to three, but just tough to get to on this
- 51:43Speaker 1: particular slate. So really it's a d as the only
- 51:47Speaker 1: priority piece for this entire game. But I do think,
- 51:49Speaker 1: from a real life perspective, maybe the best game on
- 51:51Speaker 1: the slate.
- 51:54Speaker 3: Yeah, would definitely agree there. I'm not sure if this
- 51:58Speaker 3: is true or not, but somebody said that Giannis was
- 52:00Speaker 3: downgrade to questionles, so I'm trying to.
- 52:02Speaker 1: He was down grade probable like a while ago.
- 52:04Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, yeah, so the youngest probotechs are
- 52:09Speaker 3: always more questionable than anything, so I say he is questionable.
- 52:12Speaker 3: But yeah, I definitely agree with you. I think that
- 52:14Speaker 3: this game is going to be a very fun one
- 52:16Speaker 3: to watch him. Definitely going to be prioritizing this one
- 52:19Speaker 3: and my jazz at six pm, but I think that
- 52:21Speaker 3: this is a gonna be a fun one. Definitely excited
- 52:23Speaker 3: to see how Cooper flag looks within this offense and
- 52:27Speaker 3: then just hope that PJ. Washington finishes the game, because
- 52:31Speaker 3: he'll definitely be finishing as the top value playing the
- 52:33Speaker 3: slate if he does. Yeah, definitely want to take this
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- 52:59Speaker 3: All right, we got two games on the nightcap here.
- 53:01Speaker 3: The seven PM games start with the Kings and the
- 53:04Speaker 3: Suns too kind of revamped rosters here, I guess the
- 53:09Speaker 3: Kings are kind of you know, they're bringing some guys
- 53:10Speaker 3: back from last year with the Levin Deroz and Saboni's Corps.
- 53:13Speaker 3: But Sabonis is going to miss this game, so they
- 53:16Speaker 3: have to fill out that role with a mixture of
- 53:19Speaker 3: Drew Eubanks and Daria Sarage. But they added Dennis Schroeder
- 53:23Speaker 3: in the offseason and then also just signed Russell Westbrook
- 53:26Speaker 3: about a week ago off the street, So they have
- 53:29Speaker 3: a surplus of guards right now with Schroeder, Levine Alice,
- 53:33Speaker 3: Malik Monk, and Russell Westbrook. I mean, that's a lot
- 53:36Speaker 3: of a lot of minutes, a lot of guys and
- 53:38Speaker 3: not a lot of minutes to go around. And then
- 53:41Speaker 3: the Sons obviously made the trade to get Kevin Durant
- 53:44Speaker 3: off their team, and they I didn't know Jalen Green
- 53:49Speaker 3: was out, but I guess that. I mean, I'm kind
- 53:51Speaker 3: of catching up to speed now, but Jayleen Green is
- 53:53Speaker 3: going to miss this game, but they will have Grayson
- 53:55Speaker 3: Allen in They'll be running out a different starting lineup
- 53:58Speaker 3: than usual. And then they also picked up Mark Williams
- 54:00Speaker 3: in the offseason to kind of I guess prioritize less
- 54:05Speaker 3: of Nick Richards, and then Kamon Maliwak in the draft
- 54:09Speaker 3: they drafted most recently, so be a different roster we're
- 54:13Speaker 3: looking at for the Sun side. I don't think that
- 54:15Speaker 3: this game is too enticing from a DFS perspective for me.
- 54:19Speaker 3: Even Devin Booker at nine point six K he looks okay,
- 54:22Speaker 3: but I think that there is a probably safer spend
- 54:25Speaker 3: up options than him. Does have a very very strong
- 54:28Speaker 3: role in the He did have a strong role in
- 54:30Speaker 3: the preseason, and he's gonna have a strong role moving
- 54:32Speaker 3: forward a lot. I think he'll be emphasizing the passing
- 54:35Speaker 3: a little bit more of the season, which could lead
- 54:37Speaker 3: to some pretty high flour games with the some double
- 54:40Speaker 3: digit assist but not sure if we're going to get
- 54:43Speaker 3: a SIMS performance out of him. This is a really
- 54:45Speaker 3: good matchup for three point shooters. The Kings were one
- 54:47Speaker 3: of the worst three point defenses in the league last year,
- 54:51Speaker 3: but do you see anything differently in this game. It's
- 54:53Speaker 3: a pretty solid game total, I would say so.
- 54:56Speaker 1: I think I like Booker a little bit more than you,
- 54:59Speaker 1: But all in all, I'm kind of in agreement that
- 55:01Speaker 1: I do think this game could play out like clunkier
- 55:03Speaker 1: than a lot of people expect. I think the Suns
- 55:05Speaker 1: are gonna be like more grimy this year, better defensively,
- 55:08Speaker 1: not as good offensively, especially you mentioned Jalen Green's out
- 55:12Speaker 1: no KD anymore. So, I think Booker has a really
- 55:15Speaker 1: high ceiling here. You know, gonna have a ton of usage.
- 55:17Speaker 1: His role is elite great matchup, but on the flip side,
- 55:21Speaker 1: I could see this game just playing uglier than people expect,
- 55:25Speaker 1: where no one gets there. I don't love pieces from
- 55:28Speaker 1: Sacramento at all you mentioned, even with Sabonis out, like
- 55:31Speaker 1: they just have a bunch of guys. I don't think
- 55:34Speaker 1: it's the best matchup in the world, despite how bad
- 55:36Speaker 1: Phoenix was defensively last year. And from the Phoenix side,
- 55:39Speaker 1: it's really Booker or nothing for me, and he's expensive.
- 55:42Speaker 1: So while I do like Booker Steiling a lot, I'm
- 55:45Speaker 1: in agreement that there are safer plays like all over
- 55:48Speaker 1: around him. So definitely not a guy you have to
- 55:50Speaker 1: lock in, but real upside in tournaments and I want
- 55:53Speaker 1: a little exposure there.
- 55:55Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that's a good point there. Maybe some
- 55:59Speaker 3: Ryan done as value play four point three K he
- 56:01Speaker 3: kind of turned it on towards the end of last season.
- 56:03Speaker 3: I would say that matchup wise pretty good for him
- 56:06Speaker 3: if he can get the shot to fall, and then
- 56:09Speaker 3: I guess, you know, for like a late slate type
- 56:11Speaker 3: of thing, Grayson Allen would be a guy I look
- 56:13Speaker 3: to just because he has the upside to get hot
- 56:15Speaker 3: and you know, knock down six to eight threes or
- 56:17Speaker 3: something like that. But yeah, not a game I'm going
- 56:19Speaker 3: too overboard on. I'll definitely get my fair share of
- 56:22Speaker 3: Devin Booker tonight. All right, last game on the slate
- 56:26Speaker 3: here we have the Timberwolves and the Trailblazers. This will
- 56:29Speaker 3: be our marquee Showdown game of the Night, which our
- 56:33Speaker 3: guy BG Littleneck has taken over. Now, if you guys
- 56:36Speaker 3: have not seen already, he's doing our Monday through Friday
- 56:38Speaker 3: Showdown slate. Plant of a lot of hype in the
- 56:43Speaker 3: community about him being added. We're really excited to have
- 56:45Speaker 3: him there, and he's already done a great job with
- 56:47Speaker 3: the Showdown last night. Excited to see how that goes
- 56:50Speaker 3: moving forward. But yeah, this game, I wish that there
- 56:54Speaker 3: was a couple better games than the lates slate because
- 56:56Speaker 3: I just don't really see too much I'm interested here.
- 56:58Speaker 3: I could see this game being more of a defensive battle.
- 57:01Speaker 3: Just Minnesota kind of always gonna be one of the
- 57:03Speaker 3: top defenses in the league, and now you're getting an
- 57:06Speaker 3: old Mike Conley out of the starting lineup with Dante
- 57:08Speaker 3: DiVincenzo in there, which should help their on ball defense
- 57:12Speaker 3: a little bit more. And then the Trailblazers made some
- 57:15Speaker 3: really great additions in the offseason. I think with Drew
- 57:18Speaker 3: Holliday locking down Shaden Sharp and most of they just signed.
- 57:24Speaker 3: Oh who they signed recently, Shaden Sharp and oh To
- 57:28Speaker 3: Money Kamara Money. Yeah, really really high on To Money
- 57:33Speaker 3: Kamara for sure as a talent, I think he's one
- 57:34Speaker 3: of the most underrated defenders in the league. And now
- 57:36Speaker 3: you can have him Andrew Holiday in the same lineup.
- 57:39Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be very, very good for them
- 57:41Speaker 3: long term. So I'm excited to watch this game, but
- 57:44Speaker 3: I don't think that there's gonna be a ton of
- 57:46Speaker 3: fantasy points scored. My favorite option honestly might be the
- 57:50Speaker 3: rookie Hanson Yang, just because Klingon is He's got a
- 57:54Speaker 3: very short least right now. I don't really think that
- 57:55Speaker 3: Cheunsea Billips loves him, and he has some really short
- 57:58Speaker 3: stints in the preseason, so I wouldn't be surprised if
- 58:01Speaker 3: later on the season we just see them go to
- 58:03Speaker 3: Yang more or maybe run in some more small ball lines,
- 58:05Speaker 3: which is definitely in play here against Minnesota because they
- 58:09Speaker 3: don't really have a prototypical center behind Rudy Gobert. It's
- 58:13Speaker 3: going to be that three headed monster between Randall, Gobert
- 58:16Speaker 3: and nas Reed, so I think that they can definitely
- 58:17Speaker 3: get away with that small ball. But I like the
- 58:20Speaker 3: talent on Yang, so I want to see what he
- 58:22Speaker 3: looks like moving forward. How are you liking this game?
- 58:25Speaker 3: From a nightcap perspective?
- 58:27Speaker 1: The only disagreement I have with you on this game
- 58:29Speaker 1: is that I think you're more excited to watch it
- 58:32Speaker 1: than I am. Compared to the other games on this slate.
- 58:35Speaker 1: This is low on the totem pole for me, certainly
- 58:37Speaker 1: any game with Ant and I like Portland's roster a
- 58:40Speaker 1: lot this year, so you know, obviously half getting there.
- 58:43Speaker 1: From a DFS perspective, I think you're right on, like
- 58:46Speaker 1: Minnesota is always going to be really, really good defensively,
- 58:49Speaker 1: and I think Portland is going to be right up
- 58:51Speaker 1: there with him this year, and especially with clinging in
- 58:54Speaker 1: to start short least for him, but he's really good defensively.
- 58:57Speaker 1: You talked about Drew and Kamara. There are good enough
- 59:01Speaker 1: players in this game for guys to get there. Wouldn't
- 59:03Speaker 1: be surprising if one or two do. But I you
- 59:07Speaker 1: know your guess is as good as mine on who
- 59:09Speaker 1: it will be and with eleven other games pretty much
- 59:12Speaker 1: all of them better spots. In my opinion, I probably
- 59:15Speaker 1: won't get much of any of this game. The other
- 59:18Speaker 1: game we talked there was one other game we talked
- 59:19Speaker 1: about earlier that we kind of skipped, was that the
- 59:22Speaker 1: I can't remember what game it was, but this game
- 59:24Speaker 1: is on that level for me.
- 59:26Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. It's definitely I would say a
- 59:28Speaker 3: one max spot here. I just don't really think you
- 59:31Speaker 3: need to go to overboard with it. Probably have your
- 59:33Speaker 3: night end at six point thirty and then you could
- 59:35Speaker 3: probably just enjoy these last two games. But that's gonna
- 59:39Speaker 3: do it. We got through twelve games in pretty much
- 59:42Speaker 3: exactly one hour, so good good timing there. If you guys,
- 59:47Speaker 3: I don't really know if we have time for questions here,
- 59:49Speaker 3: but maybe it's toss them in. But have to do
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- 1:00:46Speaker 3: I'm really excited to continue doing the shows with you
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- 1:00:49Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate it man, great shall I love doing it
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: with you. A couple of things on my end one,
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: I see all the comments in the chat. Appreciate all
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: the love. Make me feel very good. Sorry, we couldn't
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: answer more questions. Just a massive slate and then for
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: all the members out there, the slate plan will be
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: up and finalize them about thirty minutes, so that's all
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- 1:01:14Speaker 3: everybody up to date on the injury news. Good luck
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- 1:01:23Speaker 3: I'm excited about that show. But yeah, good luck tonight
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