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NFL Week 12 Leverage Lane | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Strategy · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear, the lift up? What's up? Eumber one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo. Back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of Leverage Lane Here on the ship at Nation
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  Speaker 1: YouTube Station. Got my guy Alex Blickel here with me
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  Speaker 1: as always to break down all things Week twelve DFS.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of content out there focuses on one P fifty, max, mmy,
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  Speaker 1: all those different factors. We do a ton of that
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  Speaker 1: ourselves as well, but this one, this show focuses on
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  Speaker 1: single entry GPP. Folks. We're going to talk about ownership
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  Speaker 1: in a way you usually don't hear it talked about.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll go down the lane to talk about how
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  Speaker 1: that forms the common build and how we can leverage that.
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  Speaker 1: And then at the end, once we've done all the
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  Speaker 1: homework and research and put it all together with you
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  Speaker 1: guys here in the chat, we're gonna make sure that
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  Speaker 1: we give our leverage Lane for the week. If you're
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  Speaker 1: in the chat right now, do us a favor. Make
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  Speaker 1: sure to hit that thumbs up subscribe to the channel. Alex.
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  Speaker 1: Any recap from last week, my friend before we get
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  Speaker 1: into it, and how you doing on this fine Week
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  Speaker 1: twelve Saturday, morning.
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  Speaker 2: Last week was brutal. I had I had the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: triple stack and Herbert was terrible, the offensive line was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: It was a tough one. But had another really good
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  Speaker 2: week in the NBA Street to over an underdog and
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  Speaker 2: pick them. So yeah, it's been a really fun season.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm doing a little bit new analysis this week
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  Speaker 2: in my discordeous kind of building these new matchup charts
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  Speaker 2: that I think. Very excited to see how those work
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  Speaker 2: this week. But but yeah, I think it's this is
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  Speaker 2: a fun slate because there's a lot more that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of a in the air ownership spread out. Obviously we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about that, but this feels like a week
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  Speaker 2: where we have more license to be contrarian that we've
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  Speaker 2: had most of the season, and that makes me exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love weeks like that. And I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: thing about this week, I hear a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: saying the same thing, is like, it's oh, it's exact
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  Speaker 1: same as last week. It's Brissette, it's Michael Wilson, it's McBride.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of factors to that. Actually, I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it. I think it's quite different and
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  Speaker 1: also it's not the same when you go and buy
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  Speaker 1: your happy meal for five dollars and then you go
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  Speaker 1: back to next week and buy it and it costs
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  Speaker 1: seven dollars. It's different. Their prices have changed. It does
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  Speaker 1: change a little bit now some of them, like McBride,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not enough, and we'll get to that when we
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  Speaker 1: talk about it, for sure. But going back to last week,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Bijon call definitely was a good one.
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  Speaker 1: I know that went well. I felt like James Cook
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  Speaker 1: just left a ton on the plate, but he still
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  Speaker 1: had almost twenty DraftKings points. But the Bijeon Tet secondary
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  Speaker 1: would have been very nice to have a lot more of.
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  Speaker 1: Like I saw it all come into play after we
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  Speaker 1: talked about it, with triples and things like that. And
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  Speaker 1: if you just had Brissett Wilson McBride, I'd put Dorch
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  Speaker 1: in there to make it all fit. You could almost
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  Speaker 1: land on Cmcbjon tet and get two hundred plus points.
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  Speaker 1: However you want to get there and have a chance
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  Speaker 1: to get up to two fifty and ship the millie.
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  Speaker 1: But congrats to those winners last week. We are onto
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  Speaker 1: this week. This is a fun slate. Like you said, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's an important one to talk about
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  Speaker 1: from a couple different angles. One the part I started
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  Speaker 1: the show with just there a second ago talking about
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  Speaker 1: the it's the same, but it's not like I'll let
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  Speaker 1: you talk more on next. I know you've got some
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  Speaker 1: numbers and things over there, and then just sort of
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  Speaker 1: what you're seeing across the board early stages here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ways people are going industry stuff that you see on
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  Speaker 1: different ownership projections. I'll let you take over and start
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  Speaker 1: us off.
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  Speaker 2: So last week we had we had this like collection
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  Speaker 2: of really expensive guys, all projected really well. The field
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  Speaker 2: wanted to, you know, get as much of those guys
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  Speaker 2: as they possibly could. They had a really cheap Arizona
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  Speaker 2: stack that would help them get those guys. We don't
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  Speaker 2: have the same sort of setup this week, and so instead,
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  Speaker 2: to me, it looks like people are saying, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: what off can really separate? And that's a pretty easy answer.
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  Speaker 2: It's Detroit against this New York Giants defense. So when
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  Speaker 2: I sort by you know, projected ownership for single entries,
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  Speaker 2: I see I'm on Ross Saint Brown's second, Jamison Williams fourth,
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  Speaker 2: and Jamier Gibbs fifth, so very clearly people want to
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  Speaker 2: play these lions, and then also has me really kind
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  Speaker 2: of boosting up Jared Goff's projected ownership or I think
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  Speaker 2: I might be double like the industry average on golf
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  Speaker 2: and even higher than that in single entry projected ownership.
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  Speaker 2: It just seems too likely that people say, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: very naturally landed on Jamison and Saint Brown, I may
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  Speaker 2: as well throw golf in there. I very naturally landed
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  Speaker 2: on jameson Gibbs, I can I can still throw a
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  Speaker 2: golf in there, And so I think that game is
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  Speaker 2: going to be pretty popular. The fact that those Lions
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  Speaker 2: are going to be really popular might boost up Wandell Robinson.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not like, you know, one of those situations.
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  Speaker 2: It's not quite like the Arizona stack last week, where
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  Speaker 2: there were multiple reasons why people were using them. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't just because people liked Arizona. It was also because
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  Speaker 2: people realized, oh, Arizona gets me whoever, I like. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: playing Detroit this week is playing them not because of
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  Speaker 2: what the Detroit sack gets them elsewhere, but solely because
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  Speaker 2: of the Detroit sack. So it's not gonna be quite
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  Speaker 2: as popular. But I think they're still going to kind
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  Speaker 2: of really dominate ownership, and it means that we need
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  Speaker 2: to get that game right. We need to have the
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  Speaker 2: right combination of lions and or have no lions if
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  Speaker 2: that's the way it breaks. But getting that Detroit game correct,
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  Speaker 2: I think is going to be the key to the slave.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, And I also think it's funny because I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people coming in thought that was
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  Speaker 1: the sneaky spot, like, oh, it's you know, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: if everyone's gonna play Gibbs, I'm gonna go to golf
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  Speaker 1: doubles and triples. No you're not, because, like Alex said,
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  Speaker 1: go look at the argument you can. I'm not saying don't. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they're scheduled to put up thirty points at home. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a great spot, but just a tidbit, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not my leverage Alan later. I'm just telling right now,
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  Speaker 1: the leverage in that game is to play Montgomery and
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  Speaker 1: the Detroit defense, not the over like all the other
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  Speaker 1: stuff is getting on. Alex just said, if three of
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  Speaker 1: the top five are the two receivers and Gibbs, there's
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  Speaker 1: ways to play Gibbs with a Monroe, Like you can
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  Speaker 1: literally play all of it together. So while we saw
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  Speaker 1: last week, you know different stuff where if I just
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  Speaker 1: throw Dorchin this, that and the other, well find me
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  Speaker 1: your dors in that price tag, it better be brock, right,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. But then now you're definitely going likely more
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  Speaker 1: double tight end than not with McBride, which we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about in a second. So I don't know, it's not
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  Speaker 1: as sneaky as people think it is coming in. I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people just auto, you know, assume
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs is all the ownership. Therefore I'll just go to
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  Speaker 1: these guys instead. All those guys are coming up, especially
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  Speaker 1: on single entry, which is just like the Browns D
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  Speaker 1: pushes up Quinn Shawn Judkins, vice versa. It's the same
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  Speaker 1: thing here. If a Monron Jamison are popping up and
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  Speaker 1: you think, okay, I'm moving off Gibbs to them, but
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  Speaker 1: not everyone's gonna play golf in single entry. What we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about here, that is gonna happen too, So gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to look for alternative measures. And if you're going there,
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  Speaker 1: just look for other ways to get different because most
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  Speaker 1: of those bills, even the overstacks, still fit the same shock.
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  Speaker 1: I really like this. Have you heard me talk about
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  Speaker 1: this before, Alex, Usually it's in the PGA DFS streets,
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  Speaker 1: But what lazy weeks?
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  Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about it, but I don't totally
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  Speaker 2: understand it. So I wanted to charity in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, it's good to talk about. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: asked you, Like, it's really it's it's not even a
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  Speaker 1: real thing, because obviously not everybody's lazy, and there's so
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  Speaker 1: many people that are grinding, you know, every single day
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  Speaker 1: and going into all this stuff. But in PGA DFS
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  Speaker 1: you get those weeks where people just don't pay attention.
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  Speaker 1: It's the off season, it's not one of the big
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  Speaker 1: signatures or majors, so they just take what all the
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  Speaker 1: podcasts say or what all the stats in the model say,
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  Speaker 1: and you get some insane ownership on some plays. You're like,
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  Speaker 1: holy smokes, Like, obviously you've got GVP scores things like
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  Speaker 1: that that we can look at. We've got the stone,
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  Speaker 1: you can find that the people that are digging in.
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  Speaker 1: But the lazy week means the grand masses, the majority
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  Speaker 1: of people, and I think this week to go collect
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  Speaker 1: my man Kyle. His point is that what's happening It's
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  Speaker 1: not like everyone's being lazy. It's just like there is
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  Speaker 1: some stuff like, oh, it's it is lazy in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: not actually like calling some out or anybody in particular,
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  Speaker 1: just saying to say it's the same as last week.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like we just talked about so many ways
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  Speaker 1: that it can be different. It's lazy if you just say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I got this now, I'll just plug this and hope
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  Speaker 1: that it hits like last week. That you got to
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  Speaker 1: dig in and you got to find the edges and
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  Speaker 1: the angles, and that's what this stuff is all about.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's important to remember when you get
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  Speaker 1: weeks like that, those can really be to your advantage
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  Speaker 1: and you want to pay them off. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: dig in and try and find out more about that.
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  Speaker 1: The other I don't know if this is an elephant
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  Speaker 1: in the room or the thing that I want to address.
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  Speaker 1: I guess is like Case Brown, Emmanuel Wilson. I will
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  Speaker 1: say this the more I thought about it, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: get your take too. But Jacobs is quoted now. He's
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  Speaker 1: on record yesterday saying if I'm not ready for this week,
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  Speaker 1: I should be back by thanksgiving up to me, it's
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  Speaker 1: already been talked about. It's a short week, it's an
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  Speaker 1: important game. Why would they push them back. They're still
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  Speaker 1: in a great spot here with or without them. Like
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  Speaker 1: to me, I don't know what if that means you
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  Speaker 1: should play Wilson. I'm just telling you that that is.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to me like I would suspect Josh Jacobs
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  Speaker 1: to still be out this week. So that does for conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on the Wilson spot the
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  Speaker 1: Chase Brown spot. We're gonna go to our usual roundabout,
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  Speaker 1: but just start there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So my thought is, I'm not that interested in
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  Speaker 2: either of these guys. Maybe Chase Brown if you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to play the New England side, because if they're if
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to catch up, Like you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the kind of targets that Demark Chase has
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  Speaker 2: gotten this year, especially since Black was taken over, it's
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  Speaker 2: not the downfield stuff Higgins has had more of the
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  Speaker 2: downfield stuff Chase has had more like get the ball
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  Speaker 2: in his hands for an easy completion, let him do
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  Speaker 2: his thing after the catch, almost like an extension of
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  Speaker 2: the run game. On a lot of those targets, I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of those aren't going to a different receiver,
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  Speaker 2: Like they're not going to go to Yoshabas for example,
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  Speaker 2: They're going to Chase Brown. So I think he could
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  Speaker 2: have such an increased role in the passing game this
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  Speaker 2: week that he is still viable against New England, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's worth a forty two percent that
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  Speaker 2: we're projecting in single entries right now. And kind of
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  Speaker 2: the thing for both of these guys, I think is
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  Speaker 2: when I when I I play a running back, I
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  Speaker 2: want to be playing someone whose offense I expect to
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  Speaker 2: really thrive that day. And I don't see that from
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  Speaker 2: either the Bengals or the Packers this week going up
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  Speaker 2: against New England and Minnesota. So for that reason, I
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  Speaker 2: think I'll try and get more in tray and running back.
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  Speaker 2: I said off the top, like this is a week
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  Speaker 2: where I think we have more licensed to be contrarian
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  Speaker 2: than we have a lot this season, and running back
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  Speaker 2: I think is the main reason why. Like one of
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  Speaker 2: the things I always say is it's not just about
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  Speaker 2: being right about who we play, it's being right about
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  Speaker 2: who we don't play. I'm less afraid this week of
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  Speaker 2: the chalk that I would hypothetically choose not to play
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  Speaker 2: if I'm playing someone contrarian, which makes me then want
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  Speaker 2: to say, okay, well, if I'm not afraid of the
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  Speaker 2: chalk beating me, then I may as well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: go take my chances, because that's kind of the way
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  Speaker 2: that I look at It's like every every chalk that
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  Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to be beaten by is an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to go find a GPP winner, to go find a separator.
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  Speaker 2: Chalky guy can't help you separate because if he goes off,
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  Speaker 2: going off with you know so much of the of
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  Speaker 2: the field. So when I have that opportunity to go
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  Speaker 2: find a separator, I'm gonna take.
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  Speaker 1: And what do you think about something like this? I
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  Speaker 1: talk about it too sometimes, but like the concept. So
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  Speaker 1: we saw this a few weeks ago. It was I believe,
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta at Miami when everybody was on bijon and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden we got the late We had
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in first of all, and then we got
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  Speaker 1: the late news of Drake London being out, and then
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  Speaker 1: everyone still stayed, myself included. Again, you learn from these mistakes,
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  Speaker 1: win or learn. But the setup was after you saw
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  Speaker 1: it as soon as lock hits and you see how
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  Speaker 1: this game starts, You're like, oh, wait a minute, clear
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  Speaker 1: action to what happened here. Their run defense does still suck,
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  Speaker 1: but they're just gonna make Kirk Cousins throw to Kyle Pitts,
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  Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney as a wide receiver one and like Casey Washington,
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  Speaker 1: and they're just gonna do everything in their power to
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  Speaker 1: shut down Bijon not saying that the Patriots can do that,
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  Speaker 1: but they can. They obviously have the ability to just
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  Speaker 1: shut down. Do you think it's more likely that you
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  Speaker 1: see them just use well, what's the guy Rodriguez, I
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  Speaker 1: think is his name, Like, use someone like him just
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  Speaker 1: to say, look, takeout Tea, we'll figure out the rest
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  Speaker 1: and and maybe Chase Brown does still pick up. He's
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  Speaker 1: got eight and fourteen targets the last two weeks to
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  Speaker 1: your point there, But do you think he becomes more
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  Speaker 1: likely if it isn't one off, or is it like
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  Speaker 1: Higgins that becomes it, or do you just go could
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  Speaker 1: you just leverage it and play the Patriots defense against
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  Speaker 1: them when most on a higher price defense are not
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  Speaker 1: on the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Gonzalez is the guy you are, you're camping, I think,
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  Speaker 2: and and yeah, I think he will be on on
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  Speaker 2: on Higgins quite a bit. Now. We have seen in
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  Speaker 2: the in the past few weeks, like at the Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: Falcons did a really nice job with Drake London of
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  Speaker 2: using route concepts that would force Gonzales off of London
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  Speaker 2: and that worked well. Now, if we're talking about offensive
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  Speaker 2: play design and Zach Taylor in that category of play
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  Speaker 2: caller and and scheme designer, I don't think so. And
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  Speaker 2: also like he'd be more used to doing that sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing for Jamar Chase than t Higgins. So I
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  Speaker 2: think one of the kind of themes that I've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about a ton over the last month in my
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  Speaker 2: discord on is this idea that because of the way
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  Speaker 2: the NFL is functioning right now, where you were seeing
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  Speaker 2: fewer explosive plays and so the successful teams, the successful
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  Speaker 2: drives are more third down conversion. Third down conversion, you know,
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  Speaker 2: running the ball, trying to stay ahead of the sticks,
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  Speaker 2: taking what the defense is giving you. We're seeing a
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  Speaker 2: lot more instances where even expensive running back and wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver pairings are doing really really well together, and we're
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  Speaker 2: basically getting like almost a binary outcome for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of offenses, where either you're getting multiple guys hitting because
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  Speaker 2: the offense is having success moving the ball down the field,
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  Speaker 2: or you're getting nobody hitting because they can't succeed. You
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  Speaker 2: brought up that Atlanta and Miami game, like that's a
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  Speaker 2: perfect example, because people loved money that game, people loved
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  Speaker 2: vjeon that game, people love pits that game. They all failed.
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  Speaker 2: What we saw last week in that Carolina game was
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  Speaker 2: Beijon was the absolute nuts. But guess what if London
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  Speaker 2: hadn't gotten hurt, they probably both would have gotten to thirty. Right,
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  Speaker 2: And so for years we've thought of, oh, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: paying eight thousand dollars for this running back, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: also paying almost seven thousand dollars. It might have been
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  Speaker 2: over seven thousand dollars for his stud receiver teammate. Because
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  Speaker 2: they can't hit together. They really can, and they are
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  Speaker 2: hitting together a ton this year. Pooka and Kien Williams
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  Speaker 2: have smashed together. Jamior Gibbs and I'm on Russein Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs and Jamison Williams were both optimal last week.
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  Speaker 2: So you know it's we're seeing more and more of this,
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  Speaker 2: and so when I think of the Cincinnati game, to
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  Speaker 2: directly answer your question, I think I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 2: find a one off from them. I'm either saying they
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  Speaker 2: get shut down as an entire offense because they're playing
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  Speaker 2: a quality defense without Jamar Chase and they don't have
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  Speaker 2: much of a running game, so the chance that they
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  Speaker 2: just fail as an offense is pretty high. But if
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  Speaker 2: they have success, it's probably t Higgins has you know,
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  Speaker 2: eight for one hundred and a touchdown and Chase Brown
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  Speaker 2: has one hundred total yards and six receptions. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna play where I'm either using t Higgins and Chase
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  Speaker 2: Brown or I'm using neither, instead of trying to pick
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  Speaker 2: the correct one off and hoping that the game kind
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  Speaker 2: ends up middling where they only have a little success
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  Speaker 2: and it's all through one guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's move on. Let's go to the other
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: spot that we I know you talked a little bit
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: about this already, but you know, the Trey McBride factor.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Michael Wilson forty eight. Trey McBride obviously the biggest talking
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: point I think you know right now at least of
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the entire slate, because he's at a onesie position, you
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: could play double tight end. I know that, but like,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: just looking at it from that perspective, how are you
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: handling the McBride spot, Because I know in the past,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: when we've done like Pooka at seventy three hundred, it's
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you know, pretty clear stances from you where it's like
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna figure this out. I'm gonna put
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: him in, figure this out around it, and then go
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: from there. Is that sort of how you're thinking about
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: the McBride spot, because he obviously fits into pretty much
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: any build, stars, scrubs, balance, stackable, whatever you want to do.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: How are you thinking about him? And then if you
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: want to lump Wilson and will do that, and then
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: we'll just do a quick roundabout and get to the
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: next segment.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Man, McBride is so hard this week. This decision is
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: killing me because, on the one hand, the matchup is phenomenal.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville has been really good for tight ends and they've
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: been the best matchup in the league for wide receiver ones.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: And part of what that tells us, because remember, one
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: of the reasons why they're showing up as being bad
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: against tight ends is because brock Bauer's scored a million
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Fantasy points against them. He's their top option. So one
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: thing that this tells us, just kind of in general
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: about this Jacksonville defense is they don't do a good
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: job of taking away the opponent's primary option. They don't
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: do a good job preventing the opponent from kind of
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: doing what they want or getting the ball where they
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: want in the passing game. And so that screams played
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: trade McBride. But I also have this thought of I
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: think Tran McBride in this entire Arizona offense is crazy,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: crazy inflated right now because they keep hitting in garbage time,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: they keep hitting where you know, McBride probably still would
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: have gotten there last week just from when the game
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: was competitive, but he went from hey, that's a pretty
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: good game too, you needed to have him because of
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: garbage time the week prior, he hadn't done a thing
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: until they were down literally four scores, like literally over
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: twenty eight points. They were down before he started to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: do anything of any relevance. And so I'm kind of
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: torn where I don't see Jacksonville building a large enough
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: lead where Arizona gets into that you know, garbage time
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: where the defense is just kind of sitting back and
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: letting them throw those twelve yard completions to McBride over
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: and over and over again. So I think he's overvalued
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: by the market as a whole right now, but that
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: might be canceled out by the fact that this is
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: a really good matchup. So I think it's gonna be
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: really really lineup based for me. And just does he fit?
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Do I have another tight end that I really like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: particularly like, is there a tight end that I want
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: in the stack that I'm using. If there isn't, I'll
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: probably use McBride. If there is, I'll probably go with
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the guy in the stack.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And what about Michael Wilson. I mean, like the other
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: thing is like doors last week was way cheaper Michael Wilson,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: way cheaper. Michael Wilson does not need to get fifteen
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: for one hundred and eighty five this week to pay
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: off his price tag. But obviously that was helpful last week.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Dorsch was a product of garbage time as well. Really,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: that last touchdown went to him seventeen yards where I mean,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: if even falls at the one, if some butts, I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: get it. But if anything like that can change the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: game quite a bit. So I'll let you just talk
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit about Michael Wilson. I'm actually pulling up
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: one more thing I want to look at too, but
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Wilson was probably the guy who was
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: least dependent on the on the garbage time run last week.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: George was like almost ninety percent dependent on it. But
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want to play Wilson here because I don't
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: think I would have much interest in Marvin Harrison at
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: forty eight hundred dollars. I like the quote wide receiver
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: one of this offense just hasn't been that productive. The
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: matchup is good enough for it, but man, I don't
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: think that Michael Wilson is ever deserving of this ownership
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in which should be a pretty competitive game. So I look,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: there's a very good chance that not playing Arizona burns
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: me again. But if that's the reason that I failed
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: this week, I'm okay with that because I don't want
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing I wanted to add on to
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and I talked a little bit on it yesterday with Mayo,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: but not everybody watches all the different shows across the week,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm definitely still gonna touch on it and then
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: get your take too. Is part of that process is
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: like the garbage time factor that you talked about, is
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that it just made everything work. And when Dorsch also
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: doubled up with Brissette to get him to like twenty
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: six or whatever, it like really helped both of those two,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: which bolstered everything else this week with the price increase,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I definitely think, and especially when we get to segment
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: two of how to leverage the calm and build, there
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: is a possibility people just there will be people that
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: play Brissette. He's gonna be really poppan, It's stillna be
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: popular to play all that. I'm just saying, I think
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you could also just play Michael Wilson and McBride without
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: him this week and just hope that that combo pack
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: at that price tag gets you all those targets and
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: then they will He have the record for most ball
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: caught in the game again. No, seeing his jersey and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: his ball and everything into the Hall of Fame already
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: is like, well, it's like it is true, it's a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: definite thing. Got to give him credit for that, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it's like it was in a huge loss and all
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: we care about from a DFS perspective is racking up
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the points, so we'll take them. But this week, I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: think you made a good point there, and I want
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to talk about that when we get to the common build.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But before we get to the common build, let's just
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: round about real quick. You talked about golf ownership getting
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: up there in small field. I think him Brisset right, well,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: anything else at quarterback just quick mentions.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we'll probably talk more about this. But
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the Giants, I'm very interested in Jameis Winston. It's almost
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: like the exact same script as you know Arizona last week.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: It's like we're we're almost projecting garbage time production from
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Jamis swist Well, Jameis Winston and this passing game. I
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: love Slayton again. Two weeks ago, I was all over
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that Giants offense again, Chicago Dark Slayton. THEO Johnson probably
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: would have been the GPP winner that week at Dorton,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: not gotten hurt, Dart would have gotten up to like
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: thirty five. Slayton was certainly going over one hundred. THEO
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Johnson might have gone to the hundred. Dard bonus. And
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: now we get gunslinger Jameis Winston. He's not going to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: give you what Dark gave you on the ground, but
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: he can rack up fantasy production just through volume alone
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: with these with these pass catchers now, and you know
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Detroit they play so much single coverage, so those guys
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: are going to have opportunities to just win one on
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: one throughout the game. So I really like that option.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And then Kitleb Williams also I have a ton of
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: interest in, and that's almost just like a pure volume thing.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh continues to boost opponent play volume more than any
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: other team in the league, allowing sixty eight and a
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: half place per game. No one else is allowing even
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: sixty six. No offense is running sixty six place per game.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: They're allowing sixty eight and a half per game. So
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this is already an offense that as above average play
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: volume inago. So I think Kaylea Williams could really do
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: well this week. Roma Dune say, I think it's going
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: to be under own DK Metcalf on your own on
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the on the breedback, So I have interest there and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: other than that, like it is another week where quarterback
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: ownership is pretty spread out. I think as I mentioned
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Golf gonna lead the way for us. Brissette is going
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to be up there because people still have interest in
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: McBride and Wilson a little bit in dors. I think
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Kurt's Mahomes and may are going to be like the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: next tier of ownership. But it wouldn't surprise me if
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: any of those guys either become a little bit more
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: popular or people just say no, the Stack as a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: whole is either too hard to predict or too expensive,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and they end up a little bit lower on. But
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it's it's a week where you can pretty much play
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: whatever quarterback whenever Stack you feel strongly about, because outside
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: of Goff and Brissette, the quarterbacks aren't going to be
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: too owned, and the receiving options that you're bearing with
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: them aren't going to be too owned.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Agreed, I feel similar running back. I'll run through quick there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Just the Brown Wilson stuff we talked about, Gibbs obviously
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: up in the mix as well. After that, it kind
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of drops off a little bit elsewhere. We got Michael Wilson,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you talked about the two Detroit guys, Jamison, williams Amanross
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Saint Brown, and then maybe it's like you said, like
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: t Higgins, little steam, maybe Robinson with the Detroit stack
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to be able to run it back with all this
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and this is just talking about who is the chalk,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: which then leads to the common build in signal jury,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: like if people land on a Detroit lineup and it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: golf with Gibbs with Jameison Williams because they changed their
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: mind on a Monro to make everything fit, well, you
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: can still fit Chase Brown, Emmanuel Wilson and Robinson in
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: there and maybe still get to McBride or whatever. Right,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that's where sort of the common build comes together. Tight end,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: no surprise, it's a McBride and then a large gap
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And then did you have any comments at defense? Real quick?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: We brought this up. But it's funny the last you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: two to three weeks at least, and the main slate
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: at least, you know for sure we've seen these leverage
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: defenses really come into play where it's like they weren't
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: on the chalk this they're on the defense instead, or
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: like triple leveraging and almost in the sense of like
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: everyone's on the cheap shoc D I'm on the defense
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that I'm on a low price D where most are
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: on a high price D. I'm not on the chockiest
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: low price D, and I also have the low price D.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: That's against somebody nobody's playing like Cleveland last week against Baltimore,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: when everyone was if they were cheap, they were on Tennessee,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: but the majority were up in the higher range on
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a more expensive defense. He kind of flipped the build
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: three ways at that point.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: So that was actually like one of the things that
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I really noticed about last week's slay. Tennessee got up
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to thirty five percent in single entries and in high
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: stakes contests. That's insane, And what it shows us is
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: that people are have really gotten to a point where
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: they just say, I'm done paying for defense. I want
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the cheapest viable defense possible. And because you know, no
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: one is so aggressively projecting ownership on those chief defenses,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: all the sims are saying, yeah, this is a totally
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: viable way to go about your defensive selection, and so
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: people just kind of load up on that. This week,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I think there are two defenses we could see that
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: kind of steam on New Orleans going up against the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: haveless Kirk Cousins without Drake London I think they could
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: end up extremely popular. And then also Cleveland going up
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: against Gino Smith and that offensive line could end up
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: really popular. So I think if I'm choosing either of
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: those two, it would be Cleveland because they are a
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: really good defense, they do have a really good pass rush,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and they're playing against a quarterback who should be under
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: pressure a ton. Whereas the Saints, It's like, even if
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Atlanta struggles, I don't see them racking up the fantasy
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: points as well. I don't see them getting a bunch
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: of sacks and creating a bunch of turnovers. I think
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: it would be more like Atlanta tries to run the ball,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: they can't pick up the first down, and then Kirk
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Cousins can't complete the third down so they have to
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: punt type thing, where at least with the Chalky Browns
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you expect to get a lot of that easy fantasy
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: production from them. So other than that, like, I've actually
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: paid up a lot of at defense here and it
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: has worked pretty well because when you're paying up, you're
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: playing into much much, much higher probability situations. And there
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: are some really bad quarterbacks in this league. There's some
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: really bad offenses, really bad play callers where they almost
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: like don't even have a chance before the game starts
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to have a lot of success. So I've had success
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: paying up a defense, and obviously the most expensive defense
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is like seventeen hundred more than the cheapest or fifteen
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: hundred more than the chalk, So it's really not that
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: price prohibitive. If you pay up a defense, it's probably
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do against.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this. I know some sites are
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: still showing like Vegas is going to be higher than Cleveland.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: It's what you said though, because it's cheap and people
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: will want that money. And it's all correlated to remember this.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: So we we're gonna get to how to leverage the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: common build in a second. But this is what creates
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the common build for those that don't put it together.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Is like when you go a manra on Jamison Williams
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and Gibbs and Chase Brown and nam Nelson and one
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of Brissett or golf likely you know, setting it up
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that way Michael Wilson McBride and build a bunch of
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: lineups with all those guys together and whatever, it's always
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be beneficial just to get the cheaper d in there,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and I think it was starting the week with the Saints,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: but I think it's moved to Cleveland, and I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that's because it's the people. Remember Miles Garrett with all
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the sacks. They saw how bad Gino got crushed, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: they're like, Oh, that's gonna be easy. I'll just go
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: there and it could work. I'm just saying that's the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: noticeable piece where I think a lot of thought it
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: was gonna be Vegas, but most people aren't paying up.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But if they are paying up, it's Vegas and Seattle.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And that's what's interesting because then you look for multiple
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: different concepts. And one that stood out to me was
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: what we talked about earlier with the Patriots. If anyone's
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: going up there, they're going to Vegas below or to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Seahawks above. I get it. But if you're not gonna
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: be on Chase Brown or any Sincy pieces, you could
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: see that play out that way. And then the other
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: one is the opposite side of the cheapest D that's
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: popular this week. You can get cheaper defenses, like the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Bengals are twenty two hundred, the Giants are twenty one.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: But I think the other one, the one that we
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: talked about with the Saints that's popular is the opposite
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: side in the fouls at thirty four hundred, because again
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it's just a matter of it's the opposite side of that,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and it's right below you see how it kind of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: like when you look from a leverage perspective and people say, again,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the whole world is like they suck. Their defense is horrible.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Why would you ever play them? I literally don't care.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I talk with it all the time. It has nothing
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to do with that. It's all about the game. If
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the other cheap D is New Orleans and I'm not
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: going to the other cheap D that's also popular in
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the Browns, then maybe I go up. But when you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: go up, one of the most popular expensive defenses is
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the Raiders, So right below them is the falcons. You
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: see how that works and how that all goes together.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: That's one of the key components. So if you ever
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: land there or see that, I just put a video
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: out a clip yesterday on my ex at Totag and Tamba.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: When you see with Mayo we're talking, I give him
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: shit like I tease him. He's one of my best buddies.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, man, we don't need to plug the defense
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and yet because we need to see what we actually
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: want in the lineup. This really pertains to single entry
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and handbuilds, and once you put the lineup together, the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: defense can be anything, but it can also have a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: huge advantage or make a lot of sense in what
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you're building. You're like, oh shit, I didn't get Gibbs
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: or any of these Detroit guys in here, but I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: landed on twenty one hundred and I got the Giants. Well,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: maybe that slows it down. Maybe they get you eight,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: but the biggest one, the best one, only gets you
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen, and that eight plays really well at
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: twenty one hundred. You just have no clue how it's
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: gonna actually play out. But you can build accordingly anything
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: else you want to add on defense, as Alex, if not,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: let's talk about how to leverage the common build, because
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: there's there's definitely a common build here that we're seeing.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think let's let's just go to the common build.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And where do you want to start here just kind
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: of talking about the Detroit game.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I just want to see and I know
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: we don't always do this, and I don't want to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: put like the whole thing together just because the you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the restrictions and all that type of I just want
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to see if, like if we do the Chase Brown
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: with Emmanuel Wilson McBride, I'm just gonna try and plug
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: in like a few I'm definitely gonna go with your
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Jamison Williams piece. I think that's pretty common. I struggle
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to think that more people get to a Manra then
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Gibbs if they can't, you know what I mean, just
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: because Gibbs wide receivers where you're gonna have to make
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: up that money, and it's pretty tricky to see.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I guess, well, for one thing like that, that decision
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: is largely gonna be made by whether or not people
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: have golf in the lineup. If they have golf, they're
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: gonna pick Amana. If they don't have golf, they're gonna say, Okay,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: well I want them running the ball in from forty
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: yards out, then so let me go with Gibbs.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to find here, as you
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: said it, and it's pretty close to what you would
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: expect to see. There's like a cash tournament build that
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you can get to. I won't give it all, but
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it essentially gets you Detroit guys, Arizona guys, Chase Brown, Wilson,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and the concept being it's what you just said, It
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: is interesting to look at this type of stuff to
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: try and figure it out because I think more doo
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Lean Brissett still just because if you have Wilson and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: McBride for cheaper, it allows you to still get your
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Detroit pieces in there. So I don't know, give me
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on it and how you want to roll
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: with it, but I think that's definitely just something I'm
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: looking at quickly. Is it does look to be the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Brussette Wilson McBride stuff and then get your Detroit guys in,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: get your chalk running backs in and then land on
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: one of those cheaper defenses. That's kind of how I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Interesting. So I see it the other way where I think,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I think people are gonna end up playing more golf
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: than they play Brissette for two reasons. The first being
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are gonna think that
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: that's the more contrarian route, that by going to golf,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: they're getting away from the chalk And so I'm actually
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: kind of i'd almost have the urge to flip our
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: ownership over at ftn IF, I saw people kind of
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: catching on around the industry and putting golf up ahead,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: because I think part of the golf steam is going
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to be this like collective thought of, Oh, I'm playing
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the sneaky guy like he's he shouldn't be ten percent,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and this is gonna be awesome that I get go
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: off at ten percent. Oops, he's twenty percent, oops, he's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: eighteen percent. Whatever it ends up being right. So I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: think I think it's gonna be golf for that reason.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And then number two, people are are going to be
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: excited to play a Giants bringback as a one off
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: with Jamis Winston in catchup mode. I don't think they're
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: going to be super excited about playing a Jacksonville guy.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: And particularly like again, we have seen Arizona frush because
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: they get in these really bad game scripts and they
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: have to play catchup, and so there's been like this
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: perfect kind of game stack opportunity with these Arizona games. Honestly,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it's like, why I never want to play an offense
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: as chalky as Arizona was last week. But and when
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I looked back at last week. One of the reasons
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: why I do beat myself up a little bit for
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: not giving more consideration to Arizona is because I was
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: so confident in San Francisco, and so of course that
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: that opportunity for the bringback was for you know, all
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that garbageine production was there. Again, I don't see that
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this week with Jacksonville. And I don't think that anybody
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: is going to look at that Jacksonville offense and say, oh, yeah,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: this is a great spot for them to build a
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: big lead through this guy. So I'll play this guy
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: and then my Arizona stack can catch up. So I
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: just don't see people being as excited about that game
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: environment as a whole as they are with Detroit. So
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I think it is going to be Detroit that ends
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: up really popular. And then if you have Golf Saint Brown,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: maybe Gibbs as well, but certainly Jamis and Williams, you're
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: starting with a pretty expensive stack, and so I think
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: like one of the easy ways to leverage that build
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: is to say, Okay, I will make the same bet
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: on this game environment, but I'm gonna flip it to
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: a Jamis Winston double stack. I can still get Gibbs
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and Jamison or Saint Brown and David Montgomery, Like any
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: combination that you want can still be really really high
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: on Detroit. But you're saying, Detroit ceiling is even higher
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: if Jamis and the Giants can push them, And if
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Jamison the Giants can push them, I know it's coming
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: through the air with a forty six dollar Jameis Winston
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and really really cheap pass catchers. You know, Slaton's forty
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: five hundred deo, Johnson's forty one hundred Wandal was under
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: six thousand, So kind of no matter who you go
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to on that giant side, it's going to be a
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: lot cheaper. So now you're saying, all right, I'm making
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the same bet on the game environment, but because I'm
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: going to the giant side, I can now get an
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: additional stud elsewhere, Like maybe it's JSN, maybe it's the
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Trey McBride one off that otherwise would be really to fit,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: would be really tough to fit with that Detroit stack.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a couple things I'll add because we're talking
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: about how to leverage the common but I like how
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to leverage it is like I said earlierf you go
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Montgomery and the Detroit d or to your point, you go,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the jamis side one side note and this is again
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: more of a no ball than no DFS thing, but
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: just to apply and think about this when you are
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: building your lineups, like every game stack is different, and
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that's this is the segment we talk about that and
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the reason I bring it up. I had a good
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: example I talked with some some folks yesterday on was like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Detroit does not necessarily need anybody to show up from
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the other side for Dan Campbell, especially after in a
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: bounced back spot, to just say I'm gonna We're gonna
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: go out and drop fifty on them and score as
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: many as we possibly can and just show we're back
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and we're good, and that's what we do. They don't
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: need someone to push them. But it'd be like you said,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it helps for sure, it gets to those ceilings. It
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: keeps their guys in the game. Like just depend on
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: all those different factors. It's hard to really frame it up,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: but on like something like Jalen hurts your own team
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and you know this, they are content running the ball,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: short passes over the middle, et cetera, et cetera. So
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: how would you make them work is you need Dallas
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to show up because that's actually gonna you cannot play
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that game any longer because now you have to come
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: at us and get your points back, and so that
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: would be a way to see that stack work. So
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of important to remember and chat
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: more about that throughout. But I think the key here,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: do you still think let me ask you it this way? Then,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: like Michael Wilson and McBride both just pop off the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: page when you're building it out, and I'm just looking
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: at building the common build. Once you put a Chase
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Brown of Wilson, even a Jamison Williams, I don't I
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: think people are as scared to land on that Jacksonville
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: guy because at the end of the day, Brian Thomas
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Junior is out. People saw Myers get into the mix
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: last week and think he's part of it. Now he fits.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: You got guys like Parker Washington who were like a
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: bit of a DFS darling since Brian Thomas has been
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: out and he's had some games. So I don't know
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: how it plays out, but I think I think it'll
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: be close either way. So it's not really like an
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: argument back and forth they're just saying, like, once you
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: get to the build, I don't know anyone that's really
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: focused on like Robinson versus Slayton versus that. Besides when
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: we're full stacking the game, because that is actually going
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to be like what do you have Robinson's ownership even
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: coming in at because Slayton's won't be anywhere. It's more
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: about what you think Robinson comes in at.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like sixteen seventeen percent with a chance to get
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: up to like twenty twenty five if if people really
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: really played the golf side, because you know, it's like
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: those are going to be really kind of connected, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: they might they honestly might move like perfectly together because
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the more people who have golf, the more people are
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: going to want a giant, and Wandell is kind of
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the giant to play. So I think we actually have
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: them within a percentage point of each other, and I
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: think they've probably moved together to where if we're five
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: percentage points high on golf, we might be five percentage
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: points high on Wandale. If Golf ends up twenty five percent,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: one Dale could end up twenty five percent. So that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: like one of my favorite ways to kind of think
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: about ownership is how does one guy's ownership affect the other,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And certainly I think those guys are as correlated as
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: in very correlated.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But I actually still have a side note on it
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: again that I kind of a little pushback as well.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have you simmed lineups to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: look at that to see how they work out. Is
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: it pushing a giant in because I will say this
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the factor of slate dynamics. Once you put a Manra
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and Jamison in, not many people are running four wide
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: receiver lineups, and most people are wanting Wilson for less
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: than one Dale. So it still affects it from that
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: perspective as well. If you're going with the golf stacks
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: that include both wide receivers, it makes a little bit
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: tricky to fit one Dale in. And like I said,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: if Onedale gets up to that, it won't surprise me.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Like the fifteen percent is kind of I got him
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: in single entry, but I don't see Slayton getting moved
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: up there. I don't see like anybody else. Really, my
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: guy Hodgens, who I liked last week, I don't see
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: him getting into the mix. So I don't know It's interesting.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Usually though, you don't need Like I said, with Detroit,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you definitely don't need the run back. And I wonder
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: if people you'll catch onto that and say I'm just
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: gonna play my two wide receivers, get Michael Wilson and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: hope that he gets eight catches for one hundred instead
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of fifteen for one to eighty five and still be happy. Yes.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, what I have seen in the in the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: builds that I've run so far is that the SAMs
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: very much still prefer a bringback from the Giants, but
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: they prefer Slaton or Theo Johnson to Wandeale Robinson. I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: think the field just kind of by default is going
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: to pick Wandell more often. And part of it too,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: by the way, is like it's think about the way
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that they're producing. Right, Like you mentioned, Detroit doesn't need
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: to be pushed, So why does it bring back potentially
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: help them because the opponent can help speed up the game,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: they can help get the ball right back to Detroit.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Who's more likely to do that, Darius Sling, He's the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: big play guy. Wandale is the you know he gets
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: there because he caught ten balls and averaged eight yards perception, right,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So he's much less likely to push the game in
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a way that helps Detroit, where as Slayton and even
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: THEO Johnson, THEO Johnson, you know, more touchd and equity
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: things like that, can't can help a little bit more
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: in that way as well.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I came in with my leverage lane ready, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: now I might, for the first time ever change it
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: on the show because it's like, yeah, there's I mean,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it's just whatever, I'll say it now, and it's not
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: really because I'll stick with my original. But the whole
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: world told me Jamis was throwing six interceptions last week
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and one of the defense against him, and this is
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: a prime spot. And it's like, you know, nobody wants
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Detroit this week. If they're going up, it's gonna be.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I can get to the Seahawks, I can play the Raiders,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I can do all this stuff. Jamis didn't throw me
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: six picks last week, so he must be good again
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: or something, or we won't get that this week. He
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: could just as easily speed up the game that way.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I also think, like I said, I really like my
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: pairing there with Montgomery, and I've been pretty good on
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: these running back spots lately of the Gibbs spot and
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: then into the Viijon spot and everyone telling me why
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it can't happen on all these places, and then it's good.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: It's been good, So don't toot my own arm too much.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But I will say on those ones, it's just sometimes
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: as the season goes on, like like Kyle said earlier,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: go collect it's like so it's not that everybody's lazy,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it's just sometimes it's like, well this it just gets
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: auto assumed, like what happened last week means it's gonna
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: happen this week, or what didn't happen last week means
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it can't happen this week, or matchups and you name
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: all this shit. It's like, listen, it's DFS, it's football,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: it's you'll put it all together. Anything can happen playing
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: this game too long. Definitely think it's an interesting spot here,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: and I really like thinking about ways to attack it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: One thing that's certain, and I talk about this all
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the time, Alex, and you've hit on a bunch of
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: reading throughout this show, is you really have to consider
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: these spots, even if it seems like you're overthinking it
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: or or talking about them too much or digging into
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: every possible angle you should. Detroit is implied to put
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: up thirty points at home, and I think last time
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: we saw that it was thirty and a half and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: they had thirty six at the half. So it's like
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: these team totals don't just show up for no reason
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: or you know, randomly, it's you really do have to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: be thinking of all the angles on these spots, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: if it's picking up the steam that we know it is,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: we do have to talk a lot about it and
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: think how we can play it differently. And I like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: your your jamis call, because if you like Gibbs and
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you say, no matter what, I'm still in on Gibbs
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: or no matter what I'm still in on James and Williams,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: one of the best ways to afford them both and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: get really different than what everybody else has without getting
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: stupid is to play the other side of it and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: figure out what a jamis. Robinson Slayton lineup looks like
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that has those two in it or something like that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be for the faint of heart because
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: people don't want to go there, but it is an
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: example of how you could definitely definitely leverage the COmON
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: build because then it wouldn't really matter if you still
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: think Chase Brown is the man you can get away
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: with them in that lineup. I mean just a side
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: note and a concept. I'll kick it right too, so
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I don't just rant on. But do you know, do
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you ever notice that, like sometimes when somebody wants to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: play contrarian, they sort of ride the edge of that,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: like they get contrarian, but then because they're already contrarian,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: instead of like tightening things back up, they just go
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: completely off the rails further. Like do you do you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: notice that a lot with players where it's like they'll
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: already be outside the lines a little bit, but it's
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: a good reason. But then they just say, if I'm
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: doing that, I may as well double or triple down
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: on it, And then they wonder why they didn't get
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: a sweat out of it after they predicted something so
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: unique in Out of the Gates.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's something that I found a lot
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: in the like conditional ownership stuff that I've looked at
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: a lot this year and talked about in my discord,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: where especially at the running back position, it's like people
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: people are very rarely kind of choosing their favorite chalk.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: They're either embracing all of the running back chalk or
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: they're fading all of the running back chalk. It's like
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: very very binary in that way, where they're they're either
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: accepting of it or it's like it's they're allergic to it,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and then under no circumstance they're going to play any
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: any chalky running backs. Yeah, I think that's that's a
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: good point. Back to Detroit for a second. You mentioned
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: that we had like a similar situation a couple of
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. It was against Washington, a very very similar matchup,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: similar you know, game environment, similar implied total. The difference
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: to me is that week we got a ten percent
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs for no reason. We played Gibbs and he
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: went off for over forty Fantasy points. Like I wish
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: he was that simple again. I wish we could just
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: say Amarra and Jamison Williams are going to be the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: chalk of the slate, Gibbs is going to be under owned.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Let's just play Gibbs and hope he does all the work. Again,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: but I really kind of like your Montgomery call because
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: we he will be around ten percent, maybe even less.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: But I think we're starting to get a very kind
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: of clear picture of how Detroit wants to view this backfield.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: And I think it's very similar to the way that
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Atlanta uses their backfield, where Algier's role is significantly more involved,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: and it's a much better role in games where they're
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: kind of controlling the game. Strip the control rolling the game,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: they're controlling possession, and they can really work those guys
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: in and out. And I think we're seeing the same
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: with Gibbs. Like you know, Montgomery had a much lesser
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: role last week in large part because they needed the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Gibbs playmaking in the passing game. They needed him on
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the field because explosive plays were their only chance of success.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: They knew they weren't going to beat Philly through success
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: right alone. They had to get those explosives, and Gibbs
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: us so much more likely to be that guy against
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: against New York, they do have a chance for that
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: more sustained success. The only other thing there is, like
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: remember that Minnesota game, Gibbs was kind of played off
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the field because of all those elaborate blitz packages that
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Minnesota threw their way. The Giants get pressure but they
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: don't blitz a ton, and obviously those blitzer are not
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: as elaborate as blind Brian Flores is. So we I
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: think we have reason to play both of these running backs,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: not necessarily together. But if you like Gibbs, by all means,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: you can play him. If you like Montgomery, by all
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: means you can play him. And again, like I back
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to one of the first things I said here was
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I think to have success on this lately, we have
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to get this Detroit game correct. And so I'm really
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: going to kind of give consideration to any combinations of
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: these guys, including if I decide to go elsewhere with
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: my stack, like if I go to Chicago, for example,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I still after I figure out my Chicago stack, Like,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the very next thing that I'm going to try to
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: figure out is Okay, if that's my stack, then how
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: am I playing this Lion's game?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to use that too. Just to talk
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: about another thing you sort of talked a lot about
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: on this show throughout the season so far, and it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: another just strategy piece, but also with mixing, contest selection
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: all of that, and I realized this morning when I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: woke up, I should have better track of my own stuff.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But tomorrow is the one year anniversary of launching the
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Mastermind Project over a ship of Nation, and you've helped
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: out with that and just a ton of people throughout
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the way, So I appreciate that and just picking up
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: these tidbits of like strategy pieces and nuggets along the way.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: And I really love your play a three max like
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: a single and what you said there is a key
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: component of like the goff or sorry, like the Gibbs
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: versus Montgomery thing. I'm playing both, not together but across
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: my portfolio. But this show is focused on single entry,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, I do have some real consideration. It's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: not going to be my leverage laim of that I
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: do have some consideration just saying Montgomery's the guy that
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I want to plug in there because if I'm not
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: going to be on a Manra and Jamison Williams and
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: whatever else, and we'll get there later, but in that lineup,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: in my my main single entry, then that's fine. But
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna want a piece of this game. And so
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: if you are playing a lot of people don't know
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the concept or maybe they missed that show when you
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: talked about it. But if you're like, look, I love
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: this Detroit game, but I want a golf stack, I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: want a Gibbs Peace, and I want a Montgomery Lions D.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: But you feel good about the rest of your build,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: you can definitely just play your three. If you play
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars single entry every week, you could play
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the twenty dollars three max. Make your three very similar variations.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Just try and get that right, and you're putting the
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: same stuff around it, so you're kind of landing on
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the same build. If they all do good enough, they'll
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: all probably min cash. If they all do really well,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: maybe one extends and finds the top and that's what
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you're looking for. But you can play sixty dollars that way,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: still pick one of them for your single life to say,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you know what, I've wanted all three of them to
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: cover my bases, but I want to also play this
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: one as if I was choosing a single and put
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it in the fifty dollars that pays twenty five K.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: It's not the one hundred K that the one hundred
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: dollars paid. But now you can win the twenty dollars
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: three max with it, and the fifty dollars you can
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: get all of it. The others can min cash all that,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: but there's so few weeks in an NFL DFS season,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: NFL season which we play DFS for however you want
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: to word it. But if you were close but didn't
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: get it right, you may not be close at all
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: for the next five, six weeks, seven weeks, whatever it is.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: So it's like you kind of want to make sure
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the weeks that you feel good about something or you
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: feel like that's your spot, that you should spread it out.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: And that's only one hundred and ten dollars versus one
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: hundred that you're playing, and you still have opportunity for
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: twenty five kus regardless. So I really love that strategy
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: piece that you brought up. We cover all that stuff
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in the Mastermind Project. We talk about it. You've got
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: your discord, we've got ship in nation, like all these factors.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: But I think it's so much more important to focus
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: on that stuff and think about all of those factors
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: than always just wondering about who's the chalk d this week,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: or who do I got to play? And is this
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: guy a good player a bad play? We really want
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: to hone in on that stuff, so let's move around here, Alex,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: let's talk about some of these other game stacks. You've
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: mentioned the Bears spot and you've touched on it a
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: little in the DK side, and you know with DK
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: metcalf story on that side and other stuff. How do
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: you foresee yourself playing a game stack like this? Can
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you just go Caleb Rome DK and shut it off?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Do you want to get somebody else in there, like
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Luther Burden the third? What sort of your thought process
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: on this stack? Yeah?
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: They are basically two of the guys that I consider
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: adding to that. The first is Luthor Burden. His role
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: does seem to be growing, but like more importantly, when
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: he hits, it's gonna be the explosive play that really
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: really helps unlock the ceiling for Kayla Williams. So I
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: like that route. The other one would be Swift. Really
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: nice role Pittsburgh because they're boosting a point and play
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: volume so much. They've been a really good matchup for
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: running backs, and we know Swift has enough of a
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: role in the passing game where like that can that
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: can be really positively correlated where it's not just a
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: bet on the offense as a whole thriving, but we
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: could actually get the twenty yard touchdown screen pass or
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: you know, the choice route over the middle to Swift
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: for the touchdown. So I like that option as well.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: We mentioned the fact that, like, we don't think the
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: running back is that strong this week. So if you're
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: getting let's say thirty from Kleb and twenty five from Rome,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: twenty from Swift might be plenty plenty goods. So you're
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: still getting an added correlation. But if you're saying I
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: only have confidence in Rome among the pass catchers, then
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: maybe Swift is the better option there. Definitely bringing it
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: back with DK Metcalf. The really interesting thing for Metcalf,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: and I think the reason why he's going to be
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: so under owned this week is because he's had a
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: of matchups where people think it's a good matchup for him.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: They thought it was a good matchup against Indianapolis, they
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: thought it was a good matchup against Cincinnati. They thought
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: it was a good matchup against the Chargers. Those are
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: three straight matchups where, even though the offense was actually
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: projected pretty well, it was a really tough matchup for Metcalf.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Particularly Cincinnati and Indianapolis had done a phenomenal job against
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: wide receiver ones, so the fact that he hasn't been
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: as productive does not kind of give me pause at all.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: He's still gotten plenty of targets, by the way, But
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: more importantly, now he goes into a very good matchup
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: with Chicago for the first time in almost like a
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: month really, and I think Mason Rudolph could be beneficial
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: for him because Aaron Rodgers tied for the absolute lowest
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: average chef of target in the league at five point
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: nine both last year and the year prior when he
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: was still with Pittsburgh, Mason Rudolph has had an average
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: deft of target at seven or over seven yards, so
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: it was really low last week. I think it was
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: like two point four. And his relief duty of Rogers,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: but I think we'll see him try to push the
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: ball downfield just a little bit more. At least he'll
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: be more willing to throw the ball downfield to metcalf.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: He still might post like a crazy low average seth
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: of target because they'll throw a ton of stuff behind
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and things of that nature, but
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Rogers will not throw the ball downfield. Rudolf will actually
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: give Metcalf some chances. So I really like this popper
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Metcalf as a bringback to any Chicago's stuff.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Do I go back to Jalen Warren at all?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Man, I do think he'll be a little bit under
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: on the problem is he's all the way up to
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: sixty six hundred and he's not scoring enough, right, Like,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest thing for me. Is I
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: like the ardage, I like the receiving role. I definitely
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: don't like how involved Gainwell is, But I think people
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: should realize that even though Gamewell has such a role,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Like if you just looked at Warren's volume and his
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: receiving role, still like what you saw. It's just that
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: it could be like astronomically good if game what wasn't
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: taking so much of it? But the touchdown equity just
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: isn't there that much for him. So at sixty six
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: hundred for him versus what is it fifty three hundred
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: for Metcalf, Like, give me the thirteen hundred dollars in
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: savings and the better big playability than Metcalf gives you.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call, And obviously you know keeps
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Caleb's side pushing. They still have almost a twenty five
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: point team total at home for the Bear, so you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: scheduled to put to the points. I also liked your
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Swift call fifty six hundred. Could definitely see him get
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: in the mix, you could. I think it's fine. Again,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: not like it's a crazy correlation. It's more than just
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: like the combo pack is cheap and very low owned
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: right now of Swift and Metcalf even like if it
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: is just Swift on the ground and then you get that,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: but you could also stack Swift with Caleb Williams, and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams only a little bit more money than the
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Brissettes of the world, a little bit less than golf.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: He's kind of squeezed right in the middle. So I
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: do like that thought process there. We talked about that.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: We talked about that.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: One other thing is I do think you can take
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: a chance on the Chicago tight ends. Pittsburgh has been
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: a very good matchup for tight ends, and one of
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: the main reasons is they have given up by far
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: the most receiving yards in the league over the middle.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Hit a very easy no off prop last week, just
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: kind of banking on this same concept and Loveland leads
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: the team in receiving yards over the middle of the field.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Romadunes close second. Both have been effective over the middle,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: but co Comet's fourth on the team, so they are
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: using the tight ends more down the middle than anywhere
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: else in the field. So if we are going to
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: see Loveland two point zero this year, I think this
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: is probably the matchup to final.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't hate that. And it's another way to just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: get different with your build. A couple more spots I
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: want to talk about it, and then we'll get to
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: our leverage laying here shortly. But and if you've got
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: others you can bring them up. But one on one
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: spot I want to hit on was the Ravens at home.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: One interesting thing about that, again, well it's very hard
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: to predict why, when, where, et cetera. They're obviously my
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: favorite team, but just noting it from all the fandom aside,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: it's not the same pricing but kind of is of
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: like a cheaper version of the Detroit stack. And they're
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: also scheduled with the implied team total I should say,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: at home of twenty nine points. So any thoughts here
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: on stacking Lamar with Zay Mark Andrews do you like
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Breece Hall, somebody on the other side, anything in that
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: game at all that you're interested in.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I'd be more interested in the Jets side, actually, which
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: is kind of crazy, but I just don't see the
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: explosion coming from Lamar for a couple reasons. Number one,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: he hasn't run the balls often of late, and number two,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: he really hasn't been that good against the blitz this year.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: He hasn't been that good one pressure this year, and
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: the Jets do, they will blitz a little bit. So
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I just basically I'm not liking what I'm seeing from Baltimore.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And while the Jets defense is far from good, I
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: think they are a worse matchup for Baltimore than they
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: offer most offenses.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I will say is in that game,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: definitely have interest in Where do you have Derick Henry
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: right now for ownership and single entry at.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: A very very like appetizing maunt like twelve percent something
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: like that, And yeah, he could absolutely demolished it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Jeff Trevion Henderson can go for like thirty DK points
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: in the game where he actually did it on his own,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: not like the last minute sixty yard touchdown from the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: previous game. I think we could definitely see Derek Henry
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: be a big part of that offense, and he interests
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: me as well there, so that's something I'm thinking about
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Ravens d if you want to put him in there,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: thirty nine. They're squeeze between those guys we talked about
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: up top. A lot of the expensive d's this week
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: are solid and not really owned because of what's going
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: on around them, and they have like real thought process
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: or leverage behind them. I guess you you know Mason
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Taylor on the other side, like he said, but not
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: super high on that. I think Derrick Henry is the
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: spot there and then the only other spot there was
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: something else here I was going to look at. Did
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about anything to do with your
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: your Eagles or the count.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually a really good one to talk about.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: So you kind of mentioned this before. But like the
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the Eagles, what they want to do offensively is build
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: a lead and then shut things down. They want to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: trust their elite defense, which has been absolutely incredible of late,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: and they want to play as risk averse as they
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: possibly can't offensively because they're obsessed with turnover margin. Like
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I think they're obsessed with turnover margin to a detrimental point.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: They would counter by saying that we just won the
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl with this philosophy, and we're eight and two,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: and we look like the best team in the league
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways other than the fact that
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: our offenses and score points. But we just win and
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: we're beating elite team after elite team. But so when
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I look at this game, like number one, I think
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: this is a better Dallas defense than they've been throughout
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: the year. Quinnin Williams over shown back, so on and
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: so forth. So there's that, but more importantly, like I
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: just don't see how Dallas does enough offensively against this
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: elite Philly defense to push Philadelphia. And when you look
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: at the skill guys in this game, I don't think
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: there's a more expensive collection of players than Saquon, Davante,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: AJ Pickens, and Ceedee Lamb. So it's just so so hard.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Also Javonte, by the way, We've got Davante and Javonte.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: So it's just like I don't see enough production coming
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: in this game to support most offenses, let alone such
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: an expensive offense on both sides of the ball. So
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be on this game. I think
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the only guy that I would consider playing is Saque
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe like I got her at one off or
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: something like that, but I'm mostly going to be off
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: this game, and I hope the field plays this game
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: aggressively because I just don't think it has anywhere near
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the chance of taking off as the Giants, the Bears,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: the Lions, even the Cardinals. Like I would play the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Cardinals before I stacked either of these offenses. So maybe
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: he could get away with like a Ceedee Lamb one
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: off or something like that, just saying you know what,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's more likely that Quignon is on pickings
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: most of the game. Although one interesting notice the Eagles
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: have kind of changed the way they're using Quignon. Where
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: early in the season he was shadowing, now they're using
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: him more as the boundary corner, which means he lines
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: up on the short side of the field and that's
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: basically like his side. He just shuts the guy down
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: on that side, and that way they can really roll
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: safety help over to the white side of the field
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: and too a Dori Jackson side, So in that regard,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Dallas can kind of get whatever matchup that they want
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: against a Dori Jackson, but a Dory and the fact
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: that he's getting this extra help now they've been a
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: lot more effective than what they were early in the
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: season were kind of whoever teams attacked a Jory Jackson
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: or that just quarterback to position with where we're finding
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of success. It's not happening anymore because of
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: this adjustment that Philly is me.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's gonna be interesting then because I will
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: segue to my leverage lane of the week, and I'm
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: going right here. So I know you're the Philly guy.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I know you know what you're talking about. But at
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, I would kick myself if
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't go to a if week twelve, if you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: told me at the start of the season that week twelve,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to be able to play sixty six hundred
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: dollars Hurts, fifty nine hundred dollars a j Brown, and
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: fifty six hundred dollars DeVonta Smith, who, by the way,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: people like them. So how do we get this solved?
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: And you know the scenario. They have to get pushed
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: and then you can make the scenario make sense. Wait
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: a minute, you said it out of the bye, Philly
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: played two of the best teams in the league. They're
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: all putting up points. They're playing two really good teams,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: and they're playing the style they need to play to
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: get the job done. Beating the Lions. It's a Vin Diesel.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Throw them up, doesn't matter how you win to insure
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: them up. Get that. You want that w against the Lions.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: That matters big time. Sixteen to nine, going into green
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Bay and people can say what they want about them.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: They're still a good team. They've had some rough go
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: different teams that beat them, but going into Green Bay
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: is not easy to win. You take a ten to seven,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: you walk out of there happy again. These people don't.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: They're the don't care about your fantasy team people. That's fine,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: they should and they have a job to do and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: they're getting it done. Before that, though, you want to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: see them go up against the Giants the week before
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: thirty eight points, Minnesota twenty eight points. I'm not sold
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: that Dallas. Did they get better? Yes, I'm sold on that.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Did they get a better defense? Sure they made big
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: moves to get that better defense, But I'm not sold
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: we know it's that much better when you tell me
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the proving point is they took down Geno Smith and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. Congrats to you. I think a lot of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: teams can do that. So my point is, I think
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: we are going to know everything we need to know.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: The lineup's dead if we don't get the back and forth.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: So it's good news bad news for you out there.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: And again you're supposed to stay in your own lane.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: This is my lane. If you want to come with me,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: by all means, but I'm just telling you I would
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: be kicking myself if I didn't get involved. At sixty
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: six hundred dollars Hurts when everyone wants the guys that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: cost more or less and the two less than six
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: K wide receivers, and I'm gonna bring someone back because
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: it makes it work. I just got to look at
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the full roster composition. So what I'm committed to is
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Hurts plus two, and the two is gonna be Brown
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and Devanta. But I'm playing enough, and in portfolio it's
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be Goddard mixed in. He's a guy that can
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: have two touchdowns. Could be Smith Goddard in some but
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: in my in my main I want to use those
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: two receivers and keep my other spots open. What you
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: tell me how bad it is after everything you just said,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: if I with my I try to sell it the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: best I could there.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look like we can. We can. Even
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: in this season where Philly hasn't done a whole lot offensively,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: we still see massive performances what they did against Minnesota.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: If you get that Minnesota game, you're taking everything down
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: this week. So I will never kind of say like,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: you can't do this or you shouldn't do this. I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: think from a football perspective it it doesn't make as
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: much sense. But from a game theory perspective, there's always
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: there's always a point where it becomes worth doing, Which
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: leads me to my question for you, which is, is
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: there an ownership point on these three guys Hurtz, Brown,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Smith where you would either consider coming off the offense
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: or saying you know what, okay instead of going Smith
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: and Brown, I'll make it a priority to go godd
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: or so at least I'm saving a little bit money
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: and making it a I'm using this stack any more
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: contrarian way than the people who are using.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I just I don't have an exact number,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: but I also don't think the threshold happens. I know
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: what you're saying, So I'll rephrase for those that are like, oh,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: you're just saying it, Like, my point would be what
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: you're saying is when stuff If you found out this
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: was really steaming up and it was becoming way more
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: popular for everybody, would that change your mind a little bit?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: It definitely is a factor in what I'm thinking about.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I don't see a world where it gets to those numbers.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I actually currently don't even believe the Devanta Smith ownership number.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Just my take, and it could be. I think you
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: nailed something earlier we talked pre show, You've already mentioned
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: on this show. I think when you add in the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Jamis and Williams factor, where does that pull from? When
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: you add in if people are going to run back
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: a giant, where does that pull from the spots that
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: it pulls from?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: There?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Again, that's my lane. I want to don't. I want
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: want to too many tangents, But just so you notice
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: this too and everybody hears it. The other interesting thing
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: about all that Devontoff just falls into that camp for
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: me is Zay Flowers, Stefan Diggs, O Lave, all these
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: guys that are usually chalk and very popular and people
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: love them. Nobody wants to play them this week at
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: all because they just got it all figured out with
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Chase Brown and Emmanuel Wilson in the Detroit stack with
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: McBride and Wilson, Like, how often does that ever really
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: work out? So we'll see even last week, by the way,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: when people say it worked, you didn't. You didn't have it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: My mannaids was on the Takedown breakdown Monday. You played
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: the one that ten thy five hundred people played when
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: you put dorch and someone from the other side, and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: only five hundred people out of one hundred and sixty
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: thousand had that those lineups. You didn't play the version
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: and three chalk pieces hit, three chalk pieces busted. Flip
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: that coin. And like I always say, it's always always
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: two sides to the coin. So I agree with you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: from a football side. The best part of DFS is
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: not just that you know there's another slate, we can
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: reset and all that, but you can feel it and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: play it the way you feel it. Like we know
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: in my heart of hearts and yours, even if it
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: was gonna go this way, you need the runback to
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: make this work, you need Dallas to play keep up.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I have thoughts around why that is. With the previous matchups,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: the situational stop like, I feel really good about it,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and I think the price is right. So I'm getting
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: in rip to my man, Bob Barker, but I think
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the price is right on this one. I'm getting in.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I like the call my leverage lane. I have toy
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: with the idea of going with the Jameis Winston stack.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I've toyed with the idea of going with the Caleb
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Williams stack. I think both are so good that I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: don't want to make either my leverage lane because I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: at this point like there's still a really good chance
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: to end up on the other one my single untry.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go a different round. I'm gonna say
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba is my leverage lane. He is
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the highest GPP score for US over at FTN this week.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: It's one of the higher GPP scores we've seen this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: entire season. He's at a price where people have said, Okay,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm comfortable not playing him there. I have enough,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: you know, studs that I really like. Whether it's a Monra,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs where they feel like I'm getting maybe they
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: feel like they're getting an even better play for less money.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: But we have Smith and Jigba projected well clear of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the rest of the receivers almost four entire points of
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: projection above Amanra almost actually over seven points better than
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: amarra improjected sealing for us, and only fourteen percent single
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: entry ownership right now on Smith and Jigba. So he's
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: going to be my leverage lean And regardless of whether
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I go to the Caleb stack or the Winston stack,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: understand that, like part of the reason why I really
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: like those stacks is because I am saving more money
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: compared to the average build, and therefore I can use
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: that money to go pay for Smith and Jigba. And
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: by the way, that like that's not Smith and Jigba
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: instead of any of those lions. I can very very
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: easily do Smith and Jigba and Gibbs if I want to,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba, and Saint Brown if I want to,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: or Smith and Jigba and Jon Robinson and then fade
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: both of those lions studs things of that nature. So
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of options. But part of the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: reason why I think Smith and Jigba is so under
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: owned is because I don't find him that price prohibited. So,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: you know, if it'd be one thing, if it was
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: like Man, more people than fourteen percent should be playing
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba. But I get it because those Smith
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: and jigbait lineups don't look good on forcing things I
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: don't like. I think it's actually pretty comfortable to build
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: with him, and even comfortable to build with him and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: another stud. So to me, there's just no reason why
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: he should be this low loaned. And the final point
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: there is Tennessee plays seventy three percent zone coverage. It's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of own. It's not the most in the league,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: but it is a lot of zwe and Smith and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Jigba two point ninety seven yards per our run against man,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: four point eighty nine against zone. And the reason for this,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I think is pretty straightforward. It's not that he's a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: better receiver against zone and a worse receiver against man.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: It's that so much of what Seattle does is predicated
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: around play action, and play action affects zone coverages more
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: than it affects man coverages, so they just kind of
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: get whatever they want to spend in Jigba. It's also
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: easier for the defense to take away Smith and Jigbo
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: when they're playing man then they can put a safety
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: over top of him than when they're playing zone and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: they have to just kind of hope that they have
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: a numbers advantage against Smith and Jigbo wherever he ends
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: up running. So love the kind of advanced football data,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: the way that it's pointing to Smith and Jigba, and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: I love the game theory behind this play. So he's
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: going to be my leverage lane, loverage lane.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I love it. So let's go. I think it's interesting
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a couple concepts that came up there, and then we'll
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: round it the show that you can let the people
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: know where you can they can find you. We'll go
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: to everything else but nine k opposite a best buy pricing, right,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to buy the TV Black Friday when it's
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars, but when it's eight ninety nine, who
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: got a deal? Secondary to that? I think he played
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: his worst game possible last week and still had almost
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: twenty five Fantasy points. It was like, man, this guy
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: felt like you coulda had forty more on that in
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: a second, and then lastly the slate dynamics. Again, it's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: just like how brock Bauers got over owned at the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Captain the other night because his price was so cheap.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: It's like he was still rock Bowers, He's still in
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: a great spot, et cetera, et cetera, but the price
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: just forced him up. Funny enough, it was opposite best
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: buy prize. He was eight thousand flat. Had he been
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: seventy nine, it would have been even crazier. But the point,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: more so, being in a different way of putting it,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: was the cheap price propped him up, even though you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: didn't really need him at the cheap price, like, there
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: was tons of ways you could play the slate without
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: him being up there. There's tons of ways to play
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: this slate if you could just get over one of
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Gibbs or a monerl like so you can actually play
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: them both together. But if you can just understand that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make JSN one of my other studs as
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: opposed to a second Detroit guy or another running back
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, that's all you're doing. And
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: there's so many stacks and ways to go that you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: can play them now on that note, I'm gonna kick
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: one question back to you before we get out of here.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts about the JSN Explosion game and then
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: putting it together with Donald or require or being like, damn,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I was right on him, but I didn't have him
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: with Donald, and that's what you actually needed. I don't
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: think he always needs Donald, to be clear, but just
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: to note it, if you see him have the forty
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: point game, what do you think that looks like for Donald?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, it's it's hard because I definitely think if
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: if you get the forty point game, you're gonna wish
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: you had Donald. But the counterpoint to that is, it's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: like in every other outcome, because you know, I'm I'm
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: going to be a sickler with myself. I'm gonna stick
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: to what I know and what I do well. Just
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: these double stacks or even triple stacks in a bringback,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I don't want to tighten. I don't want a second
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Seattle pass Catcher. So any any outcome other than the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: JSN Absolute Monster game that puts Donald at thirty five
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: or something like that, I'm gonna wish that I didn't
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: have this game stacked. And so for me, like it.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: JSN is fine as a one off here. It would
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: be different if Donald was going to be ten percent
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: along with Smith and Jigbas fifteen percent, And I felt like, Okay,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: if I get the fifteen or if I get the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: forty point JSN performance, I'm going to be hurt by
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: not having Donald because they're gonna be enough teams that
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: also have Donald. That's not really gonna be the case.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Donald's going to be so low owned along with JASN
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: that if if I get the forty point performance from JSN,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna be automatically beaten by Donald
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: team because there just aren't going to be enough of them.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: So I'm comfortable JSN is a one off, which is
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: not always how I approach these things. But let's also
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: recognize like jsn's a bit different because he's doing this
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: on such an insanely high target share, such an insanely
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: high air yard share, where like Jamar Chase doesn't get
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: many forty point performances where there is and it's also
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: at least a good amount of volume an opportunity for
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: t Higgins or from Mikeasicki or Chase Brown. We're seeing
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: the smash with JSN where there's very little if any
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: opportunity for any of the pass catchers. So I'm way
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: more comfortable with the JSN one off than I usually need.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Excellent explanation there because that's actually a version of what
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier now to kind of just
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: out it and say it was like last week, I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: saw some people that got to Bryce Young with tet
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: with Bijon as the runback, which I think in the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: end was like solid and obviously you had to get
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: the career game out of Bryce Young, but that can happen,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: so we talk about all the time any given week,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: But that was some of the lineups I saw where
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: it's like you already did that and then they just
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: went completely off the rails. It's like they went too
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: far off. You already had a zero point one six
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: percent owned quarterback and you got his career outcome, but
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: then you didn't plug the good plays quote unquote after
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: that to your point, you would have never needed you
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: didn't need it. You didn't You didn't even need John
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: down at forty seven unless you were playing for the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: opt to Like the winners of all the tournaments had
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: the Brissette triple stacks with the runbacks, So go ahead,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: it looks like you're gonna add more, and then after
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: you're done. You can also let people know where they
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: can find you before we get out of here. For
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: today's version of Leverage Laane for week twelve.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: So last week's like those lineups because I saw the
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: same thing. I saw someone who had Bryce, Bjon London
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: and Ted and then they screwed up everybody else. And
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: my thought when I looked at that was like, what
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: are you doing? Man? You have the high probability chalk
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: plays in the late window. If you love this stack,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: why are you not leaving as much of the rest
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: of your lineup open as you possibly can so that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: you can play the chalk later if your stack kids,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: or not play it later if it doesn't. Because man,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: if you had if you had Bryce, Ted, London, Bijon,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: it's so simple for you to then go McBride or
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe for some recent thing McBride is in a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: good play and you just want to get to McCaffrey
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: as well, or Michael Wilson, Like, there were so many
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: options of what you could have done once you had
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: that phenomenal start with these really high probability plays where
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: their ownership doesn't matter anymore. You've already separated so much
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: from the field with literal like one percent or point
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: two percent play play, I think, I like, I legitimately
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: think Bryce Young was zero point two eight percent point
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: it was insane. So so yeah, just I think it's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: it's a great point that you're making when when you
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: have something that you especially if you have like a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: lot of conviction on it and it's going to be
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: anywhere near that contrarian the thought should be, Okay, if
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: this hits, if this conviction play hits, or this conviction
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: stack hits, how do I maximize my potential of taking
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: advantage of that throughout the rest of your land. You're
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: no longer looking for other separators. You're not trying to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: get different elsewhere. Now, you're just trying to conserve the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: advantage that that stack is giving you. And it's especially
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: true if you can if that if that conviction contrarian
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: play is in the early wave of games, and you
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: can use swaps to your advantage later on. So a
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: great thing for people to keep in mind, and it's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: it's something we talk a lot about in my discord.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: So minde.
• 1:14:08
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• 1:14:10
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• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The other point on that too is kind of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: like the DeVonta Smith, what if he does really come
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: in at that or I mean he's gonna have some
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