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Fake Heiress Anna Delvey Claims "EXPLOITATION" · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why won't this woman go away?
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Speaker 1: She has scammed so many so called friends out of
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Speaker 1: so much money, reportedly nearly two hundred thousand dollars, and
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Speaker 1: let me assure you that is a conservative estimate. Of course,
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fake socialite Anna Delvy aka Anna
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Speaker 1: sorcn Remember her. She conned so many people out of
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Speaker 1: oh gosh, so much more than two hundred thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: because she claimed she was starting some sort of an
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Speaker 1: art studio. Oh gosh, what should I call it? An
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Speaker 1: art studio club of sorts in New York. Well, long
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Speaker 1: story short. After conning friends out of vacations, food loans, hotels,
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Speaker 1: fancy outfits, designer clothes, she finally was convicted for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 1: But that's not over. This woman actually gets a slot
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Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars, and of course she has
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Speaker 1: whined and complained the entire time. She could have made
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Speaker 1: nearly three hundred thousand dollars. But oh hlno, I bet
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Speaker 1: the viewers and the staff got tired of this one.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. That's right. In the last days, the
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Speaker 1: fake heiress. Anna Delvy actually comes out and complains that
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Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars exploited her for attention. Wait, let
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Speaker 1: me understand this. That's bass atwards technical legal term. They
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Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars could have picked anybody in the
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Speaker 1: country to be on their program, but they didn't. They
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Speaker 1: picked her and her ankle monitor, I might add, which
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Speaker 1: she be dazzled. That's not a crime. I'd be mad
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Speaker 1: if you didn't, Nana Delvey. But then to come off
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Speaker 1: the show after an early elimination and slam the show,
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Speaker 1: that's right, She speaks out after being eliminated from Dancing
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Speaker 1: with the Stars in week two. Did she ever think
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Speaker 1: she's a bad dancer? Dancing with her is like pushing
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Speaker 1: a grocery card around with bad will? Did that ever
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Speaker 1: dawn on her? Well, the formerly incarcerated socialite, and that's
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Speaker 1: certainly stretching it was criticized by Dancing with the Stars
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Speaker 1: hot head, But he's a heck of a dancer, I
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Speaker 1: can tell you that much, Max Schmarkowski. And she says
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Speaker 1: she quote doesn't feel she was given a fair chance.
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Speaker 1: She said, quote, I feel the show so obviously used
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Speaker 1: me to drive up the ratings. They never had plans
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Speaker 1: to give me any chance to grow and only cared
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Speaker 1: about exploiting me for attention. Well, if that is not
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Speaker 1: the pot calling the kettle black, whoa Okay, you know what,
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Speaker 1: how did she even get on dancing with the Stars
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Speaker 1: because she's well, some people think she's pretty. I don't,
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Speaker 1: but some people do. A so called pretty socialite that
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Speaker 1: would hold up courte believe it or not, because she
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Speaker 1: didn't like her outfit. That's right, she wouldn't put one
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Speaker 1: toe in the courtroom without the correct designer outfit. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how the judge put up with that. She
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Speaker 1: goes on and says, Dancing with the Stars is quote
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Speaker 1: predatory to try to make me feel inadequate and stupid,
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Speaker 1: all while I did get progressively better, Yet they chose
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Speaker 1: to disregard that. Hello, woman, all of us felt inadequate
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Speaker 1: and stupid. You're dancing with a pro that is a
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Speaker 1: fantastic dancer, and you're just trying to hobble along with
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Speaker 1: them and not look like a complete idiot. Everybody feels
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Speaker 1: that way. No one else other than them are trained dancers.
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Speaker 1: But dancing with the Stars is not really the point
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Speaker 1: right now. The point is that this fraud. This con person,
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Speaker 1: Anna Delvy, the formerly incarcerated so called socialite, is now
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Speaker 1: whining that somebody paid her to put on beautiful outfits,
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Speaker 1: get her hair and makeup done, and dance on TV. Really,
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Speaker 1: what's not to love? Let's take a little flashback.
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Speaker 2: With an extravagant lifestyle and a seemingly endless supply of money,
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Speaker 2: Delvy was an enigma that was made for the age
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Speaker 2: of Instagram, always at the Rape Place with the rape people,
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Speaker 2: living her best life, but with no apparent cause for
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Speaker 2: her fame. Her circle of acquaintances was fed various stories
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Speaker 2: as to how she accumulated her vast wealth.
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Speaker 1: Her father was.
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Speaker 2: Asian billionaire, a Russian diplomat, an oil takoon, a Russian
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Speaker 2: antiques collector, or a solar energy capitalist. While many parts
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Speaker 2: of Delvy's story were fluid, some things were consistent. Delvy
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Speaker 2: made no effort to hide her internship at the Paris
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Speaker 2: magazine Purple, and made it very clear that her dream
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Speaker 2: was to open a soho house for art.
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Speaker 1: And quote upset fake German heiress and a Serocan guilty
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Speaker 1: of grand larceny. After a life of fake ripping people
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Speaker 1: off to nearly a quarter of a million dollars that
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Speaker 1: we know of. Who would believe a Russian heiress and
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Speaker 1: fork over thousands of dollars? And in court she was
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Speaker 1: more upset about her designer clothing wardrobe than she was
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Speaker 1: about being found guilty. Now that's unusual. This girl and
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Speaker 1: a Serrokan also known as Anna Delvi, somehow manages to
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Speaker 1: con soho Elite out of a quarter of a million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Joining me in all star lineup Jeff Cortize, former FBI
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Speaker 1: special agent, Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags,
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Speaker 1: doctor William in July psychologist, and John Limley crimeonline dot
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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter John Limley help me out. This girl
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Speaker 1: shows up. Her skin is so pale, she looks like
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Speaker 1: a ghost. And she's got this long brown hair parted
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Speaker 1: usually slightly on the side, big glasses, and the hair
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Speaker 1: hangs down like curtains over her face. You can barely
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Speaker 1: see the eyes, you know, the hair is so close down.
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Speaker 1: I can't see her face. That makes me suspicious. But
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Speaker 1: who would buy into my dad is a Russian billionaire?
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Speaker 1: Give me your money? Oops, I forgot my credit card.
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Speaker 1: What happened? Let's just start at the beginning.
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Speaker 3: Well, Nancy, apparently a lot of people were just hungry
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Speaker 3: to buy into this story. If New York City is
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Speaker 3: a city of dreams, which we hear it called all
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Speaker 3: the time, Anna had enough for the entire island. She
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Speaker 3: had longed to be a member of the upper echelon
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Speaker 3: of Manhattan system.
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Speaker 1: I understand something, John Lindlay, Crime Online investigator reporter, Did
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Speaker 1: you just call her giant fraud? Ripping people off tens
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Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars, including one woman that took the
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Speaker 1: stand a working class person who goes on an all
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Speaker 1: expense paid trip with her to Morocco and she gets
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Speaker 1: stiffed with a sixty five thousand dollars bill. Wait are
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Speaker 1: you calling that a dream? How it? Wait?
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Speaker 3: How dare you person's dream is another person's night?
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Speaker 1: You found yourself with cliches? Don't the American dream my
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Speaker 1: rear end, Jeff Cortiese, I call it something a lot
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Speaker 1: different than the American dream.
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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I mean this was a at least on the
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Speaker 4: front end, a well executed fraud. Over the long term,
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Speaker 4: it didn't. It didn't have the legs to remain sustainable
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Speaker 4: a long term.
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Speaker 1: I mean she managed to pull it off, Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: for you know what, two years? I forgot how long
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Speaker 1: she managed to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, going
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Speaker 1: on tips to Morocco, staying at I think it's eleven Howard,
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Speaker 1: some ritzy. I don't even know how you find that
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Speaker 1: hotel in New York. It's one of those places. I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's even marked. Only rich people go there.
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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, what is what happened to John Linley, the
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Speaker 1: Voice of Reason? He just called this the American dream? What?
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Speaker 5: Well?
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Speaker 6: I think John Linley, what he was talking about is
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Speaker 6: there are there are some misguided, vulnerable people that really
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Speaker 6: are subjected to social predators like Anna, and you know,
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Speaker 6: some people just are absolutely you guys mentioned the glamour,
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Speaker 6: the glitz. It's like they want to believe and this
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Speaker 6: fake it till you make it lifestyle. You know, nobody
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Speaker 6: even took the time to say, show me the money,
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Speaker 6: show me the fun, show me the corroboration behind your
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Speaker 6: wild stories, because caught up in the moment in an
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Speaker 6: Instagram savvy society, people want to be in the company
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Speaker 6: of people like Anna, and sadly, as a prosecutor, I
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Speaker 6: am just we are just absolutely just terrified of people
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Speaker 6: like this that are able to so easily infiltrate our
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Speaker 6: social network.
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Speaker 1: Being to doctor Williams. July, psychologist, author of a Dark
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Speaker 1: he did a quit her off, which I was shocked
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Speaker 1: about because this girl actually took the stand Graham larceny
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Speaker 1: for allegedly stealing sixty two thousand dollars from a friend
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Speaker 1: that she said, come along, I'll pay for everything on
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Speaker 1: a trip to Morocco. Okay, I think they actually punished
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Speaker 1: the friend because when you go on a luxurious trip
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Speaker 1: to Morocco, you stay in a five star hotel. They
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Speaker 1: went to Spa treatments that were costing like three hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars a treatment, whatever that treatment may be, by laying
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Speaker 1: in mud, getting their nails whatever. Three hundred. But I
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Speaker 1: think they the Jerry punished that friend for going along
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Speaker 1: with the excess. Doctor July.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, at worse, Nancy, you're looking at in
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Speaker 7: cases like this, at worst is a psychopathological level of narcissism.
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Speaker 7: At best, what you're looking at as a person who
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Speaker 7: has so much greed and desire to please herself that
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Speaker 7: she doesn't care what the consequences are for other people
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Speaker 7: you were asking earlier, and I just want to address
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Speaker 7: what you were asking earlier about why and how can
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Speaker 7: this sort of thing happen. We're all baffled when we
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Speaker 7: see this, but it's age old. It's a tale as
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Speaker 7: old as time. Charlottan comes in and fools everyone. So
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Speaker 7: there's a part of people that are looking at this
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Speaker 7: who want to believe this because they want to hang
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Speaker 7: out with the person who has this kind of social
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Speaker 7: these types of social credentials, and they want to believe
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Speaker 7: that she's an heiress so that they can be with her.
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Speaker 7: And people are blaming social media. It's not the fault
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Speaker 7: of social media. Social media is just a facilitator to
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Speaker 7: the neediness of other people who want to believe and
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Speaker 7: accept it.
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Speaker 1: Why are you piling on everybody on the path. I'll
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Speaker 1: accept Cortez, thank goodness. As keeps talking about the Instagram
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Speaker 1: and society, you know what, Instagram didn't have a dang
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Speaker 1: thing to do with this. It was all this thing
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Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace possibly raking in two hundred
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Speaker 1: and ninety five thousand dollars. Yet she's whining, creating even
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Speaker 1: more of a firestorm. Delvey had a shocking reply when
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Speaker 1: co host Julienne asked what she would take away from
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Speaker 1: her experience, and she said nothing. Wow. The following day
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Speaker 1: on GMA, she said her favorite part of the experience
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Speaker 1: was quote getting eliminated. Well, I'm sure Dancing with the
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Speaker 1: Stars feels the very same way. But let's take a
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Speaker 1: walk down memory lane. Her parents hard working, middle class
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Speaker 1: people that she borrowed a ton of money borrowed. I
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Speaker 1: east ole a ton of money from them as well. Hey,
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Speaker 1: but she didn't just create a different identity her parents.
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Speaker 1: I think the dad drives a truck, and I know
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Speaker 1: what that's like. My dad, as you know, worked on
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Speaker 1: the railroad. My mom started as a bank teller. My
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Speaker 1: grandfather drove an ice truck and a school bus, anything
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Speaker 1: to put the food on the table. But she not
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Speaker 1: only assumed different an identity for herself, but she also
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Speaker 1: created a whole team of imaginary assistants, an assistant, an accountant,
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Speaker 1: a manager Limley. Is this true of her imaginary assistants.
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Speaker 3: Well, and some were not so imaginary. She even had
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Speaker 3: the concierge at a hotel essentially on her staff. At
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Speaker 3: her Beck and Call. She was able to convince people
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Speaker 3: of not only her wealth but all of her aspirations,
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Speaker 3: her dreams. She really wanted to build this members only
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Speaker 3: arts club on Park Avenue South and was even working
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Speaker 3: to get the financing for it, and was not too
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Speaker 3: far awaiting this.
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Speaker 1: John Lanley, she lied to a bank using phony records.
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Speaker 8: Anna went too far when she attempted to take out
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Speaker 8: a loan for twenty two million dollars to finance a
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Speaker 8: visual arts center she called the Anna Deelvi Foundation. In all,
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Speaker 8: Anna reportedly scammed a total of two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 8: five thousand dollars, and his double life began to crumble
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Speaker 8: as hotels went after her unpaid debts and banks began
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Speaker 8: to investigate her alleged assets.
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Speaker 1: Wow that's Jesse Palmer over at Daily Mail TV. Wow
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Speaker 1: okay so friends and acquaintances Say Sorokan spent years playing
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Speaker 1: the part of an art obsessed German heiress. Sometimes she'd
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Speaker 1: be Russian, sometimes she'd be German. She had an accent
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Speaker 1: to go with it, rubbing shoulders with the fashional at
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Speaker 1: Paris Fashion Week, frequently spotted in London night spots. Then
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Speaker 1: those who knew her saw her at a party in Berlin.
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Speaker 1: She told everybody she had just flown in on a
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Speaker 1: private jet. How did she pull it off? Scamming nearly
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Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars. It was only when these ritzy
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Speaker 1: hotels in New York went after her to pay her
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Speaker 1: bills that the whole thing fell apart. But what really
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Speaker 1: amazed me. You know, I don't know if you do
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Speaker 1: this or not. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of red
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Speaker 1: Flags on Amazon. Wendy, under the constitution, you can't force
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Speaker 1: a defendant into court in handcuffs or leg irons or
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Speaker 1: waist shackle. You can't force them to come in in
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Speaker 1: inmate jumpsuit, prison blues or orange or stripes, whatever the
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Speaker 1: case may be. But I would always keep a jacket
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Speaker 1: and pants and a couple of different sizes in my office.
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Speaker 1: So when I defendant would show up on Monday morning
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Speaker 1: trial calendar and say, oh, yeah, I want to go
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Speaker 1: to trial, but I don't have a suit, I go, oh,
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Speaker 1: I do have a suit for you. But she was
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Speaker 1: more concerned about what she wore to court every day.
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Speaker 1: Had she actually had a personal dresser dialist dressing her
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Speaker 1: for court.
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Speaker 6: Wendy, Yeah, you know, Nancy, what you're describing really is
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Speaker 6: something hopefully the judge will take into considering it fentancing,
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Speaker 6: because it's this entire mentality of I don't want to
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Speaker 6: say just not getting it. That would be too kind.
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Speaker 6: It's a complete underappreciation, or I should say non appreciation
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Speaker 6: for the fact that the rest of us work for
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Speaker 6: a living. Her family works for a living. There is
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Speaker 6: so much more to life than clothes and appearances an image.
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Speaker 6: You know. One of the things that distinguishes this case
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Speaker 6: is the fact that this over emphasis on image, on money,
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Speaker 6: on glamour sounds like it absolutely overrode every ounce of
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Speaker 6: judgment that she had and to take that into the courtroom,
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Speaker 6: as you mentioned, Nancy is probably a little bit beyond
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Speaker 6: the palf.
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Speaker 1: Listen to our Friends and Inside Edition. This is Diane McInerney.
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Speaker 9: This one may look like she is dressed for a
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Speaker 9: fashion show it and her designer does, but the wannabe socialite
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Speaker 9: is actually on trial for swindling hundreds of thousands of
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Speaker 9: dollars from unsuspecting people.
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Speaker 1: She was so concerned.
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Speaker 9: About how she looked in court she actually hired a stylist.
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Speaker 10: Is she in a courtroom or at a red carpet event.
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Speaker 10: Anna Sorkin is accused of posing as an heiress to
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Speaker 10: live an extravagant lifestyle, but it's what she's wearing to
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Speaker 10: trial that is making headlines. The twenty seven year old
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Speaker 10: defendant showed up wearing a form fitting black dress with
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Speaker 10: a plunging neckline and choker necklace. It's a look that
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Speaker 10: could backfire a Warren stylist Don Karen.
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Speaker 5: Black dress definitely a no.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 5: A hyper sexualize her. It makes her appear to be
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Speaker 5: like a seductress. The choker kind of shows to me
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Speaker 5: that she's trying.
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Speaker 1: To be overtly sexy.
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Speaker 5: The more sexy she appears to be it hurts her.
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Speaker 10: Sorakin is so obsessed with her clothes she refused to
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Speaker 10: enter the courtroom because the outfit she was given to
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Speaker 10: wear was not up to there were standards. The angry
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Speaker 10: judge told her this is unacceptable and inappropriate.
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Speaker 1: This is not a fashion show.
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Speaker 10: Sorrikin's lawyer, Todd Spodek says accounts of his client delaying
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Speaker 10: the trial because of fashion are being blown out of proportion.
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Speaker 11: It's not that she didn't want to come out only
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Speaker 11: because of the clothes. She's going through a major criminal
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Speaker 11: trial that's publicized every day. It's emotional and it's her life.
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Speaker 1: Don't cry too much for Anna Serrokan. She was living
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Speaker 1: a life that many people, not me, but many people
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Speaker 1: dream of. She made a show of proving she belonged
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Speaker 1: with the rich and famous, decked out in signature Selene glasses,
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Speaker 1: Gucci sandals, high end bots from net to Porte Elis Walker.
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Speaker 1: She usually holed up in a four hundred dollars a
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Speaker 1: night room for months on in at Manhattan's very very
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Speaker 1: luxurious eleven Howard hotel. Concierge at the hotel said they
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Speaker 1: became friends when she would repeatedly routinely pass out Crisp
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Speaker 1: one hundred dollar tips to both them and Uber drivers.
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Speaker 1: When I hear the words Crisp one hundred dollars, how
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Speaker 1: many hundred dollar bills do you have, Jackie? I don't
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Speaker 1: think I have any. So Jeff Cartiese, former FBI special agent,
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Speaker 1: when I hear the word crisp one hundred dollar bills,
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Speaker 1: that means you just got them out of an ATM
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Speaker 1: or from the bank. So how did she manage to
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Speaker 1: defraud the bank, to get cash, to tip concierge, to
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Speaker 1: fake for her. Yeah, that's a great question.
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Speaker 4: You know, I think it's a numbers game in many respects.
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Speaker 4: There were multiple banks engaged in her activity. She appears,
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Speaker 4: based on the information, limited her trips back to the
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Speaker 4: same well those she would go back to the same
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Speaker 4: bake on occasion for certain banking activity. She did share
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Speaker 4: the wealth amongst the banks within New York so as
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Speaker 4: not to draw too much attention over an extended period
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Speaker 4: of time.
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Speaker 1: Well, what I understand that she did, and I'm going
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Speaker 1: to have to get clarity on this, is that she
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Speaker 1: would provide fake bank records to one bank and then
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Speaker 1: they would She was trying to get a massive loan
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Speaker 1: for twenty two million, so she they wanted a down payment,
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Speaker 1: so she faked records and got I don't know, fifty
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Speaker 1: to one hundred grand from one bank and used that
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Speaker 1: money to get a loan as a down payment on
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Speaker 1: a loan, a bigger loan at another bank, none of
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Speaker 1: the banks realizing what the others were doing. Another thing
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Speaker 1: that really fascinates me, doctor Williams July, and not in
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Speaker 1: a good way. It's like looking at a tarantula under
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Speaker 1: a glass box. Okay, that sort of fascination is the
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Speaker 1: way she carried on this big, huge imaginary life. She
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Speaker 1: would say, splash out on shopping sprees at boutiques, very
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Speaker 1: expensive personal training sessions and beautician appointments, and she would
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Speaker 1: always bring along a friend and pay for them and
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Speaker 1: they would be all impressed. The social elite as they
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Speaker 1: call themselves, would go to lavish and large dinners for celebs,
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Speaker 1: art as CEOs, all in restaurants there in Soho. And
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Speaker 1: if you do look at her online, she's always drinking
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Speaker 1: a big glass of wine at some beautiful location. How
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Speaker 1: can an adult have that type of an imaginary life?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know when children have an imaginary friend,
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Speaker 1: there's all sorts of psychological reasons for that, maybe just security,
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Speaker 1: But an adult.
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Speaker 7: Certainly people can have these types of imaginary lives, and
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Speaker 7: they're going to recruit other people. Just because of the
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Speaker 7: chronological age does not make a person have the maguration
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Speaker 7: that they should have. And then that can be from
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Speaker 7: a lot of different things. But certainly, as much as
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Speaker 7: she can get other people to buy into this, then
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Speaker 7: that's because she's going to continue and she's going to
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Speaker 7: expand that imaginary life. And people can be very charming,
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Speaker 7: they can be very off putting. Excuse me, they can
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Speaker 7: be very charming, They can be very persuasive, and they
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Speaker 7: can get other people to buy in. There are people
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Speaker 7: that can go into banks and they can fake a
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Speaker 7: story and they can get people to believe that it
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Speaker 7: happens every day. And this is a person who can
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Speaker 7: do that and the imaginary fast parts of this. I mean,
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Speaker 7: I haven't examined her, so I can't go so far
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Speaker 7: to say she's delusional or anything.
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Speaker 1: Like that, but.
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Speaker 7: Clearly she has the ability the maybe a pathological type
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Speaker 7: of charm. Some people can do that, and also can
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Speaker 7: remember other people are buying into this because the banks
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Speaker 7: aren't changing credentials properly.
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Speaker 12: Under the name Anna Delvi, she arrived in New York
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Speaker 12: with a high priced wardrobe and was known for handing
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Speaker 12: out one hundred dollars cash tips, reportedly saying at different
21:57
Speaker 12: points that her father was a diplomat and an oil
21:59
Speaker 12: baron or involved in the solar panel business, none of
22:02
Speaker 12: which are the case. People who knew her said she
22:04
Speaker 12: often asked others to use their credit cards to cover
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Speaker 12: cab and plane fairs and then failing to repay them.
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Speaker 1: Our friend Michael Sissak at time magazine online. Yeah, there
22:13
Speaker 1: was one story that came out at trial how she
22:17
Speaker 1: hired a PR firm to organize her birthday party in Soho.
22:22
Speaker 1: It emerged she never paid the bill. During her stay
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Speaker 1: at eleven Howard, she struck up a friend there. In
22:31
Speaker 1: addition to the concierges to and as for the recommendations
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Speaker 1: for the very verty vetty best food in Soho, we
22:40
Speaker 1: also learned that on one occasion she invited friends to
22:44
Speaker 1: dinner at Soho s and bro and the friend ended
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Speaker 1: up paying a whopper massive bill when Sorokn's twelve credit
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Speaker 1: cards were all declined, but Sorokin paid her about triple
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Speaker 1: the amount the following day in cash. We also learned
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Speaker 1: that she would go to unique treatments like infrared saunas
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Speaker 1: in the East Village, go out to dinner after celebrity
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Speaker 1: training sessions with Casey Duke, which Sorokin also paid for
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Speaker 1: John Limley. How did she get money from one bank
23:27
Speaker 1: to get a loan from another bank? How did that work?
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Speaker 3: It's a very interesting line to follow how she did this.
23:35
Speaker 3: She would go to a bank and ask for a
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Speaker 3: certain line of credit based on a lot of times
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Speaker 3: just a promise of the fact that she had millions
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Speaker 3: overseas that she could repay the loan, and she would
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Speaker 3: go from one bank with that money to another bank
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Speaker 3: and get an even larger In fact, here's an example.
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Speaker 3: She talked to an exam to an executive with City
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Speaker 3: National Bank into giving her a line of credit on
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Speaker 3: her account for one hundred thousand dollars, promising to repay
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Speaker 3: it with a wire transfer from a European account. She
24:18
Speaker 3: used that money in a failed attempt to secure a
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Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars loan from Fortress Investment Group, and
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Speaker 3: the one of the managing directors at Fortress has said
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Speaker 3: that she ran into problems providing details about the origin
24:36
Speaker 3: of her wealth. Someone actually thought to ask about that.
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Speaker 1: You know, her lines became more and more spectacular, Wendy Patchett,
24:42
Speaker 1: California Prosecutor. In fact, she even managed to charter a
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Speaker 1: private plane on one occasion with absolutely zero money. Wendy,
24:51
Speaker 1: how do you do that? Yeah.
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Speaker 6: The level of sophistication Nancy, as John was explaining, and
24:56
Speaker 6: as we know now looking back, was absolutely stunning. It
24:59
Speaker 6: was on almost as if she was daring authorities to
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Speaker 6: catch her in this escalating scheme. Of sophistication. And you know,
25:06
Speaker 6: the answer to how you do that is the same
25:08
Speaker 6: way we've commit we see people committing other crimes. Is
25:11
Speaker 6: sometimes people are so trusting because image matters.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 6: This is something I talk about in my book.
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Speaker 1: We tend to attribute.
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Speaker 6: All these positive qualities to somebody who comes across as believable,
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Speaker 6: whether they're pretty, or we like what they say, or
25:24
Speaker 6: we're enamored with their axe and or their clothes. All
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Speaker 6: the types of things that Anna used to get ahead
25:30
Speaker 6: can fool other people into letting them acquire the kind
25:33
Speaker 6: of wealth and as you point out, tangible benefits that
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Speaker 6: this young lady did, don.
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Speaker 1: Mammy tell me about the lux treatment she got in
25:40
Speaker 1: Morocco where she ended up stiffing her friend with the bail.
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Speaker 3: Well, when they went to Marrakesh, she went with a
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Speaker 3: friend and she had offered to pay for everything. Now
25:53
Speaker 3: her friend actually offered to help pay, but she said, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: you work hard for your money, harder for your money
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Speaker 3: than I do. This is my treat. And they would
26:04
Speaker 3: go out for a round of drinks and oops, she
26:09
Speaker 3: forgot her credit cards. So she would ask you very quietly,
26:13
Speaker 3: if the friend could you know, just cover this one check,
26:16
Speaker 3: and that would happen over and over and over again.
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Speaker 3: And this friend, in the end ended up covering the
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Speaker 3: sixty two thousand dollars cost of the flights, dining, shopping,
26:29
Speaker 3: and the stay at a hotel where they had a
26:31
Speaker 3: private villa with a courtyard, a pool, and a butler,
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Speaker 3: all the extravagance that you might say was fit for,
26:39
Speaker 3: say a Kardashian.
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Speaker 1: A sixty two thousand dollars vacation that is more than
26:46
Speaker 1: most people make an entire year. While in Marrakesh, Morocco
26:53
Speaker 1: Soroken aka delv took part in all the activities the
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Speaker 1: hotel had to offer. For instance, they took private tennis lessons.
27:03
Speaker 1: They ate breakfast pool side, a butler would deliver them
27:07
Speaker 1: fresh watermelons and bottles of rose. They roamed the gardens, relaxed,
27:17
Speaker 1: swam in the villa's private pool, took a tour of
27:21
Speaker 1: the wine cellar, eate dinner with live Moroccan music, before
27:28
Speaker 1: capping off their knights with cocktails at the Churchill Bar.
27:33
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a trip that most people only
27:37
Speaker 1: dream of. And now here's miss thing. Having a nearly
27:41
Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars, vacation built on crime.
27:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Nancy, the best things in life are free,
27:50
Speaker 6: and everybody knows that. So when you look at a
27:52
Speaker 6: story like this, part of I think the offense that
27:55
Speaker 6: everyone is taking is to use crime and criminal activity
27:59
Speaker 6: to build a fake world where people pay the kind
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Speaker 6: of money that most of us would never do even
28:04
Speaker 6: if we had it. And you talk about the value
28:06
Speaker 6: of hard work the way we were all raised, it
28:08
Speaker 6: sounds like those she surrounded herself were really taken with
28:12
Speaker 6: the fact that someone they believed was as rich and
28:14
Speaker 6: famous as she was would be interested in them.
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Speaker 1: That is a basic human need.
28:19
Speaker 6: Ironically, that was being satisfied through crime and through, as
28:23
Speaker 6: you pointed out earlier, having this imaginary friend that's larger
28:28
Speaker 6: than life.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace none for swindling other people
28:43
Speaker 1: out of money while she posed as a German heiress.
28:47
Speaker 1: The convicted scammer was actually portrayed by actress Julia Garner
28:52
Speaker 1: and a Netflix mini series. I watched all nine episodes.
28:58
Speaker 1: I believe it was I could do an interview about
29:02
Speaker 1: her and a Sorkin Aka and Delvy the depths of deception.
29:12
Speaker 1: This woman is capable of is amazing. Now she got
29:17
Speaker 1: mad because Max said she wasn't. Well, let's see, how
29:20
Speaker 1: can I put this poopy dancer. I gave up cursing
29:25
Speaker 1: when I had the twins, so I can't say what
29:27
Speaker 1: Max said. But so what So Max said something about her,
29:31
Speaker 1: maybe he was right, or maybe Max could smell her
29:35
Speaker 1: lies a mile away. Just like that jury, It was
29:38
Speaker 1: all set to be the return of the fake Heiress.
29:42
Speaker 1: She was the star of a hit Netflix show all
29:45
Speaker 1: about her life defrauding high society Marx. But Anna Delviy
29:51
Speaker 1: somehow managed to claw her way back into the spotlight
29:54
Speaker 1: with a very surprising turn of events somehow on Dancing
30:02
Speaker 1: with the Stars. But every time the viewers watched her
30:06
Speaker 1: before they voted, they had to remember what happened in
30:10
Speaker 1: a court of law. You know, I don't know about you,
30:13
Speaker 1: Jeff Cortize, FBI special Agent, but I loved it when
30:17
Speaker 1: I would. Of course, the prosecutor gets in front of
30:20
Speaker 1: an entire jury panel and reads the indictment before you
30:23
Speaker 1: begin jury selection, so everybody knows who's charged with what
30:28
Speaker 1: and what all the counts are. And I would love
30:31
Speaker 1: it to say State versus Jeff Cortize aka Charlie Tuna
30:37
Speaker 1: aka the Hammer AKA blah blah blah, and so forth
30:43
Speaker 1: and so on. I would love reading out ten or
30:46
Speaker 1: twelve aliases. And by the time you've done reading that,
30:49
Speaker 1: the jury just looks at the person and goes, You're so,
30:52
Speaker 1: you're guilty, You're guilty. Why are you? Why do you
30:55
Speaker 1: have twelve aliases? And this girl, I'm telling you, not
31:00
Speaker 1: only had aliases, but she had fake assistance. She lied
31:05
Speaker 1: about her mom and dad who they really are. The
31:08
Speaker 1: reality is that her father was a truck driver and
31:15
Speaker 1: he went on to work at or start a heating
31:19
Speaker 1: and air conditioned business. The friends in school called her
31:25
Speaker 1: Barbie and her favorite movie was Mean Girls. And I
31:30
Speaker 1: don't think that's any of that is good. Okay, that
31:34
Speaker 1: means nothing good. Jeff Cartize, No, I agree one hundred percent.
31:37
Speaker 1: You hit it on the head.
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Speaker 4: You know, the minute individuals start layering themselves with aliases
31:43
Speaker 4: and aka's, you know they're putting up walls and barriers
31:47
Speaker 4: that any jury is going to be able to see through.
31:50
Speaker 5: You know, she.
31:50
Speaker 4: Really executed a well thought out plan against the banks,
31:56
Speaker 4: using multiple techniques and methods to siphon money from them.
32:01
Speaker 4: You know, from from top to bottom. She exploited what
32:05
Speaker 4: people want to see and exploited the type of lifestyle
32:09
Speaker 4: that people want to have to the extent that, you know,
32:12
Speaker 4: if I was going to run undercover, I would I
32:13
Speaker 4: would have done many of the techniques that she did
32:16
Speaker 4: in order to manipulate my audience.
32:19
Speaker 1: Well, another aspect to this, John Lemley, is I remember
32:23
Speaker 1: one day when John David came running home and went,
32:26
Speaker 1: so and so's mom is so cool. She works for
32:30
Speaker 1: Chick fil A and she gets free T shirts and
32:35
Speaker 1: she gets this, and she gets that. I think the
32:38
Speaker 1: lady who's very lovely was in marketing or PR and
32:42
Speaker 1: would bring home, you know, like a T shirt or
32:45
Speaker 1: a mood cow or what whatever they had. And I
32:49
Speaker 1: thought briefly of creating a different persona to try to
32:54
Speaker 1: impress John Davis's friends, who were then four years old. Okay,
32:59
Speaker 1: but I just decided no, I'm just going to stick
33:01
Speaker 1: with the truth, you know, and let the chips fall
33:03
Speaker 1: where they may.
33:04
Speaker 3: But John Lumley, I mean.
33:07
Speaker 1: That would hurt me if I found out the twins
33:10
Speaker 1: were lying about their mom and dad, that what we
33:15
Speaker 1: are isn't good enough to fit in to their self image.
33:21
Speaker 1: They're projecting that would really hurt my feelers.
33:23
Speaker 3: And that's exactly the way her parents felt about the
33:26
Speaker 3: whole thing. They actually did help fund her through college
33:31
Speaker 3: and as she was getting out on her own, but
33:33
Speaker 3: there was never any sort of trust fund. She moved
33:38
Speaker 3: to Germany in two thousand and seven, and after she
33:42
Speaker 3: dropped out of college, she interned in public relations before
33:46
Speaker 3: then moving to Paris and became an intern at Purple Magazine.
33:50
Speaker 3: Once she arrived in New York City, she just somehow
33:54
Speaker 3: managed to be in all the sort of right places.
33:57
Speaker 3: And she was this German heiress to her with a
34:01
Speaker 3: father that you would think with me, Wait.
34:04
Speaker 1: A minute, I thought she was supposed to be a
34:06
Speaker 1: Russian heiress.
34:07
Speaker 3: Well, no, she was from Russia, but she told people
34:12
Speaker 3: she was a German heiress. What's really funny, though, is
34:15
Speaker 3: that her German, according to a lot of people, was terrible.
34:19
Speaker 1: Hmmm hmmm. I want you to take a listen to
34:21
Speaker 1: what the defense claims in closing arguments.
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Speaker 13: She had to fake it until she could make it.
34:26
Speaker 13: Those words from the defendant's own attorney, who claimed she
34:29
Speaker 13: never intended to commit a crime, But prosecutors call her
34:32
Speaker 13: a fraud and a liar who would do almost anything
34:35
Speaker 13: to prolong her life of luxury. This morning, the fate
34:40
Speaker 13: of an alleged scam artist is now in the hands
34:42
Speaker 13: of a jury. Both sides wrapping up arguments for a
34:47
Speaker 13: case that's drawn international outrage. The style savvy defendant even
34:51
Speaker 13: turning heads in court wearing an animal print dress. She
34:55
Speaker 13: called herself Anna Delvi, a fashionable globetrotter who prosecutors say
34:59
Speaker 13: was pre tending to be a high flying German heiress
35:02
Speaker 13: living a fairytale life of glitz and glam among Manhattan's elite.
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Speaker 4: I come to the only verdict that is in order
35:11
Speaker 4: for the law, and that.
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Speaker 13: The prosecutors say, the twenty eight year old, whose real
35:20
Speaker 13: name is Annasorrikan, stole two hundred and seventy five thousand
35:24
Speaker 13: dollars from banks, hotels, and friends, all part of an
35:27
Speaker 13: elaborate scheme to keep up her illusion of grandeur. Prosecutors
35:31
Speaker 13: also alleged Sorrikin tried securing a twenty two million dollar
35:35
Speaker 13: loan to operate a private club, claims her lawyer denies.
35:39
Speaker 11: I do not believe she had the intent to ever
35:41
Speaker 11: commit a crime. Whether she owes people money, that's a
35:44
Speaker 11: fact of life. That's that's the reality of doing business.
35:47
Speaker 1: In New York.
35:48
Speaker 13: Now, facing charges of grand larceny and theft, she could
35:51
Speaker 13: spend up to fifteen years in prison if convicted, but
35:54
Speaker 13: officials say even if acquitted, she will be deported to Germany.
35:58
Speaker 13: Sorkin's attorney said she got in over her head but
36:01
Speaker 13: was just buying time until she could pay everyone back.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing our buddy wit Johnson at GMA, at ABC
36:08
Speaker 1: pay everybody back. I saw no signs of paying everybody
36:11
Speaker 1: back and calling this doing business. That's certainly putting perfume
36:16
Speaker 1: on the pig. Now you know there's a problem. Wendy Patchrick,
36:20
Speaker 1: California prosecutor and author of Red Flags. When the defense
36:23
Speaker 1: to theft and fraud is fake it till you make it, okay,
36:29
Speaker 1: I would not say that that's a valid defense. And
36:32
Speaker 1: a fraud case, you're admitting you're faking it.
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Speaker 6: It's probably not a good theme for the defense one.
36:38
Speaker 6: I'm sure they're rethinking.
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Speaker 4: Right about now.
36:41
Speaker 6: You don't want to that's kind of playing right into
36:43
Speaker 6: the prosecutor's case. Now what they probably were trying to do. Interestingly,
36:48
Speaker 6: and trial and Nancy, you and I have both seen.
36:49
Speaker 6: This is really kind of painting this vulnerability picture of
36:53
Speaker 6: the defendant to try to make somebody feel sorry for her,
36:55
Speaker 6: that she was caught up in this false lifestyle, felt
36:58
Speaker 6: she had to pretend she was somebody she wasn't. Who
37:00
Speaker 6: can't relate to that there's a little bit of Anna
37:03
Speaker 6: and all of us, you know some of the themes
37:05
Speaker 6: we've w well.
37:05
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I want to isolate what
37:07
Speaker 1: you just said. The defense argued at trial as if
37:11
Speaker 1: Anna Sorokan aka Anna Delphy was some type of a
37:16
Speaker 1: renegade and a rebel, someone who was, you know, making
37:22
Speaker 1: her own path in the world creatively. B As, don't
37:26
Speaker 1: tell me there's a little bit of Anna Sorokan in me,
37:29
Speaker 1: because that was their defense. There's a little bit of
37:31
Speaker 1: Anna and all of us. Oh uh uh uh no,
37:34
Speaker 1: because she is a fraud, a thief, and she ripped
37:38
Speaker 1: people off and they're never going to get repaid. Wendy, right,
37:42
Speaker 1: that's what.
37:43
Speaker 6: I'm saying that Well, that's probably why she was convicted
37:45
Speaker 6: because these defenses are just not realistic to jurors, to
37:49
Speaker 6: hardworking jurors, and just cannot relate to the fact that
37:53
Speaker 6: we are anything like this picture of Anna. Nonetheless, we
37:57
Speaker 6: have seen this defense time and again and things it
38:00
Speaker 6: is not successful.
38:01
Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
38:03
Speaker 13: The courtroom drama played out late into the evening. At
38:06
Speaker 13: one point the jury appeared deadlocked, the defense asking for
38:09
Speaker 13: a mistrial, but then the verdict. Jurors agreed with the
38:12
Speaker 13: prosecution that Anasaurkin built her fairytale life on a foundation
38:17
Speaker 13: of theft and lives. Overnight, a New York City jury
38:21
Speaker 13: finding socialite Anasauricim, the so called SOHO grifter, guilty on
38:26
Speaker 13: eight counts, including grand larceny, attempted grand larceny, and theft
38:30
Speaker 13: of services. Prosecutors arguing the twenty eight year old stole
38:34
Speaker 13: a quarter of a million dollars from banks, hotels, and
38:37
Speaker 13: friends to fund a lavish lifestyle.
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Speaker 11: The jurors obviously believed our point of view and followed
38:43
Speaker 11: our logic and acquitted her of the top charge. As
38:45
Speaker 11: I'm sad and that she was convicted of some of
38:47
Speaker 11: the other.
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Speaker 13: Charges, Prosecutors say the Russian born Sorkin, who called herself
38:52
Speaker 13: Anna Delviy, was pretending to be a high flying German
38:55
Speaker 13: heiress living a life of glamour among Manhattan's elite authorities
38:59
Speaker 13: say she even forged financial documents hoping to get a
39:03
Speaker 13: twenty two million dollar loan to open a private club
39:06
Speaker 13: in the Big Apple. While she was turned down, she
39:08
Speaker 13: did convince one bank to loan her one hundred thousand dollars,
39:12
Speaker 13: which she never paid back or lawyer saying she meant
39:15
Speaker 13: to but had gotten in over her head and was
39:18
Speaker 13: just buying time.
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Speaker 1: Anna Delviy gone for now. Don't worry, She'll be back.
39:27
Speaker 1: And I wonder will she ever pay back all that money?
39:32
Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye friend,