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Noahide Laws, the Third Temple & the Coming Antichrist | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hi there, folks, and welcome to the A Minute to
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  Speaker 2: Midnight show. This is Tony, and I'm coming to you
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  Speaker 2: from New Zealand in a spring morning. And with me today,
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  Speaker 2: I have Mondo Gonzalez. And Mondo, it is autumn where
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  Speaker 2: you are, or fall. And yeah, we were just talking
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  Speaker 2: a little bit off air what the weather's like here,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know what it's like where you are.
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  Speaker 3: At the moment, you know, for us here in Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 3: it's been rain, rain, rain, which actually is everybody's happy
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  Speaker 3: about it because we had a super hot summer.
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  Speaker 1: It was horrible.
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  Speaker 3: And so we're down, you know, we're down in the,
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  Speaker 3: what would you say, about in the 1920s Celsius anyway,
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  Speaker 3: which is great for us.
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  Speaker 1: We've been in the 40s all summer.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. Yeah, I guess for Americans going in the 40s,
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  Speaker 4: wait a minute, that's winter temperatures. But yeah, Celsius. 40 Celsius. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, we've had a march up to spring and
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  Speaker 2: it was a bit of a mixture. So we had
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  Speaker 2: a couple of quite hot days and now right at
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  Speaker 2: the moment we're back to it being like winter again
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  Speaker 2: for a couple of days where I am in New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand anyway. So it's a bit of a up and
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  Speaker 2: down with the weather. But in terms of what we
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  Speaker 2: should discuss today. And I mentioned to you off air, look,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that have been messaging me
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  Speaker 2: or emailing me or leaving comments saying, can we talk
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  Speaker 2: about the Noahide laws and the Noahide convention? And, um,
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  Speaker 2: it is a bit of a hot topic at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: And so I said to you, Mondo, can we maybe
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  Speaker 2: look at that today? And it's kind of controversial today.
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  Speaker 2: In some ways, just as a little bit of an overview,
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  Speaker 2: some people won't even know what that is. Nearly 100
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  Speaker 2: Noahide leaders from 20 countries across six continents will gather
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  Speaker 2: in Jerusalem on November 2-6, 2026, with the blessings of
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  Speaker 2: Israel's chief rabbis and a reception at the residence of
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  Speaker 2: the president-elect. For the first time in history, Noahides, who
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  Speaker 2: are non-Jews, who ordered their lives by the seven laws
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  Speaker 2: of Noah, which that's an interesting thing in itself, will
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  Speaker 2: convene in a single international conference. Nearly 100 Noahide leaders
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  Speaker 2: from 20 countries across six continents will gather in Jerusalem
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  Speaker 2: at the Seven Arches Hotel on the Mount of Olives
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  Speaker 2: overlooking the Old City for the first international congress of
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  Speaker 2: Noahides and Israel. The Congress is convened by Brit Alam,
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  Speaker 2: the World Noahide Centre, under the presidency of Rabbi Uri Cherokee,
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  Speaker 2: and it carries the blessing of Chief Rabbis of Israel
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  Speaker 2: and the support of ministers in the Israeli government and
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  Speaker 2: will include an official reception at Be'er HaNati, however you
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  Speaker 2: pronounce it exactly, the residence of the President of Israel
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  Speaker 2: in Jerusalem. And over five days, the participants will take
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  Speaker 2: part in study lessons with leading rabbis, working groups on
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  Speaker 2: community building, and the signing of a founding charter and
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  Speaker 2: the establishment of the first international Viet Dinh Whanawhai affairs.
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  Speaker 2: Delegations are expected from six continents. Now that came out
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  Speaker 2: as an official sort of blurb around the end of July.
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  Speaker 2: So now we're getting really close to this conference actually occurring.
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  Speaker 2: And Quite rightly, I think some people have some concerns
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  Speaker 2: over it and what it actually means, but there's also
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  Speaker 2: a lot of speculation as well. So that's my way
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  Speaker 2: of a preamble. I'll give it to you. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: I'll have plenty more to say at times, but I
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  Speaker 2: will get your perspective.
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  Speaker 4: On it, Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is actually quite interesting because all of us
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  Speaker 3: who are prophecy watchers We look and we see that
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  Speaker 3: in the future, Israel's obviously very central in the final
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  Speaker 3: 70th week of Daniel during the coming tribulation period. And
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  Speaker 3: the interesting thing about it is you have, as we know,
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  Speaker 3: a variety of characters. First, you have the Antichrist, whether
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  Speaker 3: he is going to be a false messiah or a
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  Speaker 3: fake messiah or a pseudo messiah for the Jewish people.
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  Speaker 3: We know that he is involved with the reestablishment to
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  Speaker 3: some way of temple sacrifices, etc.
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  Speaker 1: So the Jews are central. I mean, we all agree that.
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  Speaker 3: The interesting thing about it is this upcoming conference, which
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  Speaker 3: they hope is a start of an annual conference that
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  Speaker 3: will continue to happen. But the thing that I find
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  Speaker 3: interesting is in Revelation 17, we see a harlot religion.
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  Speaker 3: And we know that the heart of religion is some
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  Speaker 3: sort of system of religion that brings the world together
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  Speaker 3: in some form. We also know that that heart, heart
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  Speaker 3: of religion is destroyed.
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  Speaker 1: In the midpoint of the seven year period.
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  Speaker 3: And we see that in revelation 17, you know, basically
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  Speaker 3: 12 through 18, where the 10 Kings, along with the
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  Speaker 3: 11th King, which is in this case of the antichrist
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  Speaker 3: burn her with fire. So, because we know that at,
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  Speaker 3: the second half of the tribulation period, the Great Tribulation,
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  Speaker 3: that the Antichrist in the middle sits in the temple
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  Speaker 3: of God, declaring himself to be God.
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  Speaker 1: He is the religion.
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  Speaker 3: And so he's not going to allow any competition with
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  Speaker 3: this harlot religion. So what many people wonder is, well,
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  Speaker 3: what does that harlot religion look like in the first
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  Speaker 3: half of the tribulation period? And so enter in what
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  Speaker 3: we have now here, the Noahide laws.
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  Speaker 1: And so most people are like, well, what's this about?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the true answer is that this is a system
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  Speaker 3: of belief that is 100% originated and perpetuated by rabbinic Judaism.
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  Speaker 1: And so whether you look in the.
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  Speaker 3: Early writings or traditions, the Jewish traditions, primarily the Talmuds,
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  Speaker 3: they describe... that you can be, well, let me say
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  Speaker 3: it this way. The Jews are required to follow the
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  Speaker 3: 613 Mosaic commandments, okay? But, you know, Deuteronomy 4, Deuteronomy 7,
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  Speaker 3: there's a whole bunch of other passages that speak that
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  Speaker 3: the 613 commandments of Moses were not given to the world.
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  Speaker 1: They were given to the Jews.
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  Speaker 3: And so then it brings up the question within Judaism is, well,
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  Speaker 3: then what do we expect or what do we, What
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  Speaker 3: would God want then for non-Jews? God doesn't want the
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  Speaker 3: non-Jew necessarily to convert to Judaism. So rabbinic Judaism came
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  Speaker 3: up with this idea or this thought that all they
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  Speaker 3: need to do is follow the seven laws of Noah
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  Speaker 3: because they're all Gentiles. After basically Genesis 9, we see
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  Speaker 3: that God establishes covenant with Noah. And so when you
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  Speaker 3: look at the Noahide laws as they are given by
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  Speaker 3: rabbinic Judaism, there's basically seven of them.
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  Speaker 1: And they derive.
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  Speaker 3: Primarily from Genesis 9, not fully, not as if you'd
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  Speaker 3: read them there, but some of them you could. The
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  Speaker 3: first one is that there's a prohibition against idolatry. We
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  Speaker 3: can talk about that later, what that looks like. There's
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  Speaker 3: a second is the prohibition against blasphemy, you know, towards
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  Speaker 3: God and his name.
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  Speaker 1: The third is against murder.
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  Speaker 3: We see that in Genesis 9, 5, and 6 because there,
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  Speaker 3: up until that time, God tells Noah, if anybody commits murder,
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  Speaker 3: then he creates capital punishment. Right there in Genesis 9.
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  Speaker 3: And he says, by man. So if you murder somebody,
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  Speaker 3: it says, by man, that person, the murderer, needs to
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  Speaker 3: be killed. And so that creates one of the other
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  Speaker 3: principles there is that you have to have courts. which
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  Speaker 3: would then be able to implement a capital punishment, you know,
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  Speaker 3: murder for murder or the killing of somebody for murdering
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  Speaker 3: somebody else. They also have understandably the fourth one would
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  Speaker 3: be laws against sexual morality, bestiality, all the things you'd
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  Speaker 3: see in the, which is similar to the book of
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  Speaker 3: Exodus or I'm in book of Leviticus. That would include homosexuality,
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  Speaker 3: all those things that are defined under, Judaism's view of
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  Speaker 3: what sexual immorality is. The fifth one is theft, which
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  Speaker 3: we know that's part of the original Ten Commandments. Remember,
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  Speaker 3: for a Jewish person, the Ten Commandments are not for non-Jews.
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  Speaker 3: The Ten Commandments are for Jews. But in this sense,
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  Speaker 3: they'll say theft is bad. That's also one of them. Also,
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  Speaker 3: you have a variety of comments about eating blood, or
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  Speaker 3: specifically it talks about eating a limb of an animal.
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  Speaker 3: from a living animal, which in that sense would be blood.
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  Speaker 3: And then the seventh one, as I mentioned, is courts
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  Speaker 3: of justice. So just as a backdrop, what they say
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  Speaker 3: is that in order to participate in the world to
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  Speaker 3: come for a Jew, and for the world to come
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  Speaker 3: for Gentiles, you need to be, you can be one
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  Speaker 3: of the righteous Gentiles. And so to be a righteous Gentile,
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  Speaker 3: you don't convert to Judaism. You follow these seven Noahide laws.
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  Speaker 3: And if you do, then you will have a participation
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  Speaker 3: in the world to come. And so again, Later, a writer,
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  Speaker 3: and the last thing I'll say here, and we can
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  Speaker 3: unpack some of this, but Rambam Maimonides was basically a
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  Speaker 3: 12th century Jewish person, Spaniard Jew. He lived in Israel
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  Speaker 3: at the time, lived in Egypt, but he wrote something
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  Speaker 3: called the Mishnah Torah, and he was a very, very
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  Speaker 3: influential medieval Jew. And what he discussed, he discussed the
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  Speaker 3: seven no-hide laws. But one of the things that he
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  Speaker 3: said in his interactions with Christianity, which is very strong
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  Speaker 3: in the Middle Ages, was that in order to be
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  Speaker 3: considered righteous, again, you can't be an idolater. So the
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  Speaker 3: question is, or a blasphemer, can a Christian qualify as
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  Speaker 3: a non-idolater?
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  Speaker 1: Because for them, they didn't understand.
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  Speaker 3: They just thought we invented the person of Jesus in
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  Speaker 3: the sense of we took this man, we elevated him
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  Speaker 3: to godhood, and now we're worshiping the God of Israel
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  Speaker 3: along with this other god named Jesus, and therefore, by definition,
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  Speaker 3: we're idolaters.
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  Speaker 1: And so it also, even in Islam, Maimonides was quite.
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  Speaker 3: Clear as well as rabbinic Judaism that even though Islam
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  Speaker 3: is monotheistic, very strict, you have to submit, in order
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  Speaker 3: for you to be righteous, you have to submit to
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  Speaker 3: the God of Israel, not Allah, and you have to
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  Speaker 3: submit to the authority of the Torah, the first five books,
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  Speaker 3: as well as the authority of the rabbinic Jews or
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  Speaker 3: the sages, or in this sense, the Talmud.
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  Speaker 1: So, Obviously, Islam doesn't submit.
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  Speaker 3: They might be monotheistic in their own theology, but they
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  Speaker 3: don't submit to the authority of the Talmud. Christianity is monotheistic,
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  Speaker 3: but we don't submit to the authority of the Talmud.
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  Speaker 3: So it's interesting that even within there, there's different viewpoints
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  Speaker 3: within Judaism of whether a Christian is outside of being
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  Speaker 3: a Noahide person or whether Jesus disqualifies them. Or whether
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  Speaker 3: some Jews are a little bit more moderate and they'll
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  Speaker 3: allow Christianity to be under it. But needless to say,
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  Speaker 3: I think we ultimately fail because, according to Maimonides anyway,
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  Speaker 3: because why? We don't accept the authority of the Talmud
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  Speaker 3: as being equal to Scripture. So this is the basic
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  Speaker 3: Noahide framework originated by Rabbinic Judaism, Talmudic Judaism, and for
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  Speaker 3: the world. And so this is what they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: come to be, is to say, let's start incorporating this
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  Speaker 3: framework for the world.
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  Speaker 1: With this conference next month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So just very quickly then, I'll just
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  Speaker 2: recap what those seven no-hide laws are. Do not worship idols.
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  Speaker 2: Do not blaspheme the name of God.
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  Speaker 4: Do not murder.
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  Speaker 2: Do not commit sexual immorality. And there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: what that defines there. Do not steal. Do not eat
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  Speaker 2: the flesh torn from a living animal. But the seventh one,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you mentioned, Mondo, is establish courts of
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  Speaker 2: justice to enforce the previous six laws. And these laws
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  Speaker 2: are promoted by some Jewish groups, particularly the Armluvoviches, of
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  Speaker 2: which Jared Kushner is one. And basically, going back to 1991,
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  Speaker 2: George H. Bush signed, you know, made a declaration, a
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  Speaker 2: Noahide Declaration kind of thing, establishing it in the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: and with a day, you know, a celebration day and
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  Speaker 2: all of that kind of thing. So what a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are concerned about is, okay, so they are
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  Speaker 2: going to establish a system of court, basically, to be
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  Speaker 2: able to prosecute the laws, you know, people that break
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  Speaker 2: the Noahide laws. Now, this is where the speculation comes in.
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  Speaker 2: People are going, oh, this is it. This is the
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  Speaker 2: religion of the Antichrist and so on.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like, hold on a minute. At the moment,
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  Speaker 4: this is a religious group.
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  Speaker 2: The Noahides coming together and having a conference and saying
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  Speaker 2: we are setting this up. They're not some, at this
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  Speaker 2: point anyway, some international group with any teeth, like the
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  Speaker 2: United Nations or something. They can't come along and say, right,
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  Speaker 2: United States of America or New Zealand, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: enforce these Noahide laws and those idolaters are going to
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  Speaker 2: have capital punishment. Now, it could happen down the track,
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  Speaker 2: but at this point, we don't know that. And so
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  Speaker 2: where a lot of people are going is they're jumping
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  Speaker 2: the gun and saying, ah, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: This is the religion of the Antichrist. This is it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But we don't actually know for sure that that is
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  Speaker 4: the case.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and what you see is the international Beit Din,
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  Speaker 3: that this house, Beit Din is Hebrew for the house
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  Speaker 3: of judgment.
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  Speaker 1: And they've said that they are not creating the organizers
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  Speaker 1: of this thing.
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  Speaker 3: They've been very clear or overt in saying that they're
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  Speaker 3: not creating the house of judgment in order to enforce
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  Speaker 3: any of the Noahide laws, because for them it's voluntary.
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  Speaker 3: And so they are in, in Judaism, like the Sanhedrin,
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  Speaker 3: we know about the Sanhedrin from the time in the
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  Speaker 3: gospels and the Sanhedrin has been attempted to be reformed
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  Speaker 3: in modern times, you know, 2004 didn't really create a,
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  Speaker 3: catch a lot of traction, but the, the goal of the,
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  Speaker 3: this house of judgment is in order to provide guidance.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they're saying is, and now it could switch
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  Speaker 3: if they had teeth, but right now is no, we're
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  Speaker 3: simply here to provide guidance. We have these communities around
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  Speaker 3: the world, you know, almost 80 communities that are no
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  Speaker 3: hide communities already. And so we simply just want to help.
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  Speaker 3: And we want to, we want to see this information,
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  Speaker 3: get out. So But as you mentioned, it is well
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  Speaker 3: known that one of the punishments that, at least in
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  Speaker 3: the Talmudic literature, for people that violated the Noahide laws
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  Speaker 3: was the sword or capital punishment through beheading. And so,
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  Speaker 3: of course, that brings up some connections with Revelation 20 about.
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  Speaker 1: Those who had been beheaded.
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  Speaker 3: But it doesn't say necessarily that those were beheaded necessarily
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  Speaker 3: by the harlot. In Revelation 20, it talks about those
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  Speaker 3: who were beheaded by the beast, and I would say
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  Speaker 3: that that's probably the second half of the tribulation period
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  Speaker 3: for refusing the mark of the beast. So that certainly
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't correlate with the Noahide laws because, again, the worship,
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  Speaker 3: the religion of the second half is the religion of
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  Speaker 3: the beast himself and the Antichrist himself who wants to
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  Speaker 3: be worshipped, of course, ultimately to the dragon. But we
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  Speaker 3: do know, we do know that in Revelation 17, that
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  Speaker 3: the harlot was drunk with the blood of the martyrs.
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  Speaker 3: So somehow there is going to be an enforcement mechanism
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  Speaker 3: in the first half of the tribulation by this religious system.
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  Speaker 3: You either follow it or you are killed. But it's
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  Speaker 3: interesting that the ones that are described being killed are
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  Speaker 3: not just people, but Christians, or at least believers for sure,
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  Speaker 3: being martyred for their faith in Jesus specifically. So I think,
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  Speaker 3: as you said, we have to be careful not to
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  Speaker 3: jump the gun just because there is one element of
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  Speaker 3: similarity of beheading. As you mentioned, that could be just
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  Speaker 3: as applicable to Islam. And there are those that believe
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  Speaker 3: in an Islamic Antichrist. And that will be one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that he's going to use during the tribulation period.
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  Speaker 1: So the interesting thing is.
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  Speaker 3: Just some of the discussion. And to me, The key
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  Speaker 3: of the Noahide laws, and this is what I find interesting,
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  Speaker 3: is the key element in the Noahide laws is the
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  Speaker 3: centrality of Judaism.
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  Speaker 1: So worldwide, worldwide.
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  Speaker 3: Judaism is central, and the authority of the rabbis is central,
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  Speaker 3: and of course the authority of the seven laws, which
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  Speaker 3: have their basis in Genesis 9, as well as others.
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  Speaker 3: I find that really provocative because to, will the Antichrist,
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  Speaker 3: when he comes on the scene and he establishes the covenant,
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  Speaker 3: because that's exactly what Daniel 9.27 says, I've written a
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  Speaker 3: lot about this, it literally in the Hebrew says that
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  Speaker 3: he shall cause the covenant to prevail for the Jews,
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  Speaker 3: for the many, which is the Jews in the book
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  Speaker 3: of Daniel, for one week, for seven years. And in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the week, he'll cause the sacrifices and
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  Speaker 3: offerings to stop. So that covenant that he is causing
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  Speaker 3: to prevail in the book of Daniel is the Mosaic covenant,
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  Speaker 3: which involves sacrifices and offerings and all the 613. So
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  Speaker 3: that's interesting that he is going to show up on
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  Speaker 3: the scene providing a basis for the Torah, to be
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  Speaker 3: reestablished for the Jews, because it's not that way.
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  Speaker 1: Right now in the land of Israel.
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  Speaker 3: And when you look at the religious Jews in Israel,
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  Speaker 3: what they want more than anything else, this.
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  Speaker 1: Is, let me say it this way.
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  Speaker 3: If you ask a religious Jew and you look at
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  Speaker 3: their writings, what is going to be the telltale sign
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  Speaker 3: that the Messiah has arrived? And they'll say that when
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  Speaker 3: the Messiah arrives, he's going to accomplish two things, minimum.
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  Speaker 3: One is he's going to reestablish the sacrificial system or
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  Speaker 3: the temple.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, okay, that makes sense. We all believe that.
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  Speaker 3: The second thing is he's going to cause the Torah
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  Speaker 3: to be applied over all the land of Israel.
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  Speaker 1: You think, really?
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  Speaker 3: That's what they believe, which is exactly what Daniel 9.27 says. So,
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  Speaker 3: and it's connected to the Torah and it's connected to
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: the temple. So, but in the midst of that, if
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: we're going to speculate or conjecture, could it be that he,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: as he gives them his authority to establish the temple
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: and the Torah, Could it be then that he promotes
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the Noahide laws around the world with Judaism as being centered?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: That's possible.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: That would be amazing if it actually happened around the world,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: that the Jews would become the.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Center of the world religiously. To me, I find that
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: hard to believe.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Particularly in the climate at the moment.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I find that.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: But if God is going to accomplish it, well, then
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: God can do anything.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about that. But I can't prove
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that from Scripture.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I can prove the temple, and we can prove that
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the Torah, that the Mosaic covenant is going to be
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: central for the Jews. We can show that. But we
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: can't show necessarily that no hide is part of that system.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: So the clauses about the death sentence and so on,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: which could apply to, well, they say it applies to idolatry,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you know, potentially, and also blasphemy and so on. And
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: so they come from the Talmud. I think Sanhedrin Clause 57a,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: that's where most of this stuff comes from. You have
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to delve way down into stuff to find it. You're
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: not going to find it on the Noahides website, you know, saying, hey,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: we're going to behead people if they disappear. you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: disagree with us or whatever. But that's where it comes from, basically.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: And what I think on is, so, okay, so they
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: could behead people for, A, following Jesus, because if you're
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: potentially following Jesus, you're an idolater because you're saying Jesus
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: is God, right? You know, so this is what people
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: are saying. Okay, that's idolatry. That is a capital offense.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: That means punishment by death. Another thing they could go
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: on is the Sabbath because they're saying, no, only Jews
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: can keep the Sabbath. So if you're a Gentile and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you're trying to keep the Sabbath, some people are saying, right,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: that's another one, you know, beheaded for that. But again,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: it's greatly speculating and people that are throwing all their
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: eggs in this basket are like, I think, jumping the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: gun too fast because Islam also beheads people. I mean,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the French Revolution, which was basically run by the Illuminati,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: what did they do? They used the guillotine and beheaded people.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: They weren't Jews and they weren't Islam. So there's a
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: bunch of other possibilities. So I think we have to
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: be really careful that we don't go, ah, this lines up,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: this looks like it. You know, it's like people that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: were saying a few years ago, oh my gosh, Obama's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the Antichrist, God told me. You know, or Donald Trump's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: the Antichrist, God's told me, or whatever, and then time
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: moves on and it's like, wait a minute, or Henry
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Kissinger was the Antichrist.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Well, he's dead.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So, you know, we have to be really careful that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: people don't put their hat on a doctrine and say,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And then we're convinced this is it and we won't
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: listen to anything else. So to me, it's like one
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: of these things you put on the scales and you go, yep,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: this looks like it could balance out that way, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you put something on this side of the scale and
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: it goes there. So that's how I'm seeing it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: No, I think you're seeing it right. We have to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: be very careful.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: And there's certain things that we that we have a
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: framework of understanding the prophetic timeline.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: We generally understand that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Again, there's a seven-year period, or 70th week of Daniel
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: is very important. The Jews are important in there.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: There's a.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Starting point based on Daniel 9.27. There's a midpoint with
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: the abomination of desolation, and Jesus divides it in two halves.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: So you have some of these frameworks, which I think
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: are quite solid. But when it comes to pinpointing, again,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I've talked a lot, I think even with you and
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I've talked a lot about the 10 Kings.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Who are they? Well, I have theories.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I talk about them potentially being technocrats. I'm not dogmatic
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: on it. I'm not going to hang all my hat
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: on that one basket or eggs in that basket. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: so in the same way here, you have the World
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Council of Religion, you know, That was really big in
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: the 90s.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And like, this is it. This is the global religion.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: This is the harlot religion of Revelation 17, which, again,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: we just have to be humble and keep things pretty
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: much loose in all of our discussions. Because as we know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Daniel 12 tells us that as the time of the end,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: we are here, we're at the time of the end,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: but knowledge is going to increase as we get closer
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and closer.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And so it's wise to say, hmm, I'm watching.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Again, we have exegetical things that we base our theology on.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: We don't do newspaper exegesis. So we have this framework
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: of theological truth. But when we look out, we say,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: we are looking at the newspaper, so to speak, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: we go, I wonder if that fits. I wonder if
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: that fits our basis. But we don't start there and
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: then read it back into the text. And again, that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: would be a little bit hard to do to look
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: at the Noahide movement, which is getting some traction starting
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: next month, and then to try to go to Scripture
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: and force that on there and say, oh, there it is.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: That would be unwise.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I agree. So let's just quickly, though, look at,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: so what are the goals of the Noahide conference, the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: first one? So basically, the first international congress of Noahides
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: in the eternal capital of Jerusalem is, bringing together the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: delegates from six continents. They want to formally establish the
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: World Noahide Movement, complete with a founding charter, a rabbinic court,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: regional councils, and a financial infrastructure designed to sustain a
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: global religious civilization. So what people are there for saying, well,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: this is just the start. This is where it starts.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Watch this space from here on out.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, those are the things that they hope to
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: accomplish in this several-day conference, making Jerusalem the center, which again,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I find that interesting because we do know that, of course,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the Antichrist is going to, it seems to be that
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: he is going to use or eventually make Jerusalem at
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: least one of his.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Headquarters enough to where, and I say this often, that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Interestingly, you know, you have the third temple movement, which,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I've written a lot about the red heifer movement,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: et cetera, which is still, still in motion. But the
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: fact of the matter is, I say this in is
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: if you're the antichrist and your goal is to blaspheme
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: the God of heaven, which we know Daniel seven, Daniel eight,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Daniel 11, there's a lot.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Of descriptions of this character. He's a big mouth. I mean,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: he's just, he's a blasphemer left and right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: And so, If you're going to blaspheme God, you know, yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: you can blaspheme him from New York City or from London,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you know, if you wanted. But if you really want
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: to get at the heart and insult the God of heaven, well,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you're going to blaspheme him from Israel. And if you're
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: going to do it there, you're going to choose Jerusalem.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: And if you're in Jerusalem, you're going to choose the
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Temple Mount. And if you're there, you're going to choose
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: the temple itself. So it's interesting that to me, the
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Antichrist is, wants the temple built probably more than anybody else,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: because if he's going to accomplish his, his blasphemy and
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: declare himself to be God in the very temple of God,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: then he is going to help accomplish that goal.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And I think he is going to betray the Jews.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: He is going to deceive the Jews, but there's no
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: doubt again, in the framework that what's happening here is
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: creating a very Jew centric idea because the, There's no
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: doubt when we think about the millennial period, this thousand-year
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: period where Jesus is going to rule, he's ruling from Jerusalem.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, Psalm 2, I will set my king on
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: my holy hill of Jerusalem, of Zion. And all the law,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the Torah, not so much the Mosaic law, but the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: law of the Messiah will go forth from Jerusalem. So
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: it's interesting that, of course, the Antichrist tries to mimic
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: whatever Jesus Christ does. And so he's going to help
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: accomplish some of those things. So the fact that the
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Jews are looking to create something where Jerusalem is the
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: center spiritually of the world, it's actually not surprising from
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: a biblical perspective, even in the Old Testament. He is
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the God of Israel, and of course he's the God
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: of the whole world, Paul tells us, but he is
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the God of Israel there.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And so to bring on.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: this ideas we also don't know how long how far
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: away is is the is the lord's return we don't
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: know can you imagine 10 years of meetings if they
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: had these meetings over and over for 10 years not
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: saying that's the case but i'm just trying to think
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: outside and go that would create a What we do
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: know is that this time period in 2 Thessalonians 2
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: is described as a massive time of deception. It's the
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: great delusion, spiritually speaking. So, and I think that no doubt,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you know, the Jews and the Jews themselves and the
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: whole world, they need Jesus. Without Jesus, there's salvation for nobody.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: We know that in John 14, 6 and Acts 4, 12. So,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: The opposite is going to happen during this period of
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: seven years, at least from the Jewish perspective, and the
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Antichrist certainly is not going to promote Jesus.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, personally, I feel like it makes sense
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to me that the ultimate religion of the Antichrist is
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: actually Luciferianism.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: It's not Judaism.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It's not Islamic either, because what did Lucifer do? He
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: basically wanted worship. And that's why he was cast from heaven,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm like greater than God type of thing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Then he had in the temptations of Jesus, he said,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: if you will fall down and worship me, all this
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: will be yours. So that's what his obvious thing was.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: He wanted to be worshipped. And then when we look
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in Revelation, we see that the dragon gives his power
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to the beast and that all will worship the dragon ultimately.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: So who's the dragon? It's Satan or Lucifer. And so
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I think when the Antichrist finally does get into his
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: position where he causes death and destruction, it will be Luciferianism.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: It will be ultimately the worship of Lucifer, not the
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: worship of Judaism or Islam or something else that's going
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: to be the end goal religion. I've personally thought that
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: for a very long time because looking at the character
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: of Satan or Lucifer, who's behind this whole thing, What
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: does he want?
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: He wants worship.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want to give his name to somebody else
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to be worshipped. He's not going to call himself, you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: worship Allah or worship Krishna.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Or someone else. It's going to be... And what is
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: the technocratic religion ultimately? It's Luciferianism.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: The bigwigs, the guys with all the money, they're not...
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: They might put on a garb of some other religion,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: but ultimately... It's Luciferianism, and that's what the Freemasons are.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: It's what the original Luminati was. And so to me,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: it's like, yes, these things can be stepping stones, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think ultimately that is what.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Going to be you're going to be beheaded because you
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: worship God on a certain day, or you're going to
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: be beheaded because you.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Follow or don't follow some other law. You have to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: do it the Judaistic way or the way of Allah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be it. That's my
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: personal opinion, and people are welcome to disagree with it. But,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you know, for the last quite a number of years,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: that's what I've thought.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to disagree with you because of what
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: you just said is so scriptural that, again, we know
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: in Daniel 11 that the Antichrist is not going to
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: worship the God of his father's. That phraseology, I've written
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: about this in an article, and I got it from
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: another Hebrew scholar because that phraseology appears 45 times in
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the Old Testament, and it always refers to Jews. So
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the fact that the Antichrist doesn't worship the God of
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: his father's It's not just worship the God. It's always
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: used of a Jewish leader. Always.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Every one.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: So I find that fascinating that there, he worships the
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: God of fortresses or the God of war. So you
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: have this very much, which basically is himself. And this
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: is why you have that. 2 Thessalonians 2 declares himself
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: to be God.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, Revelation 13, all the way through there.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Every time the mark of the beast, the phrase mark
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: of the beast, or the mark appears in Revelation, every
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: single time, it's connected with worship. Worship of the beast.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And the beast, we know in Revelation, holistically, that the
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: beast refers to two things.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: There's the beast, certainly from the sea, which is referring
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to the system.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: But it's also in Revelation 20, 19 and 20, it's
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: referring to the person, the Antichrist. So the Antichrist is
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: so associated with his system and his empire that you
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: can see that phraseology refers to both of them. And
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: worship is always of the beast, which ultimately says that
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: they worship the dragon.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Revelation 12, Revelation 13, you see all this through there.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: What you said is so thoroughly biblical that who's the dragon? Well,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: we know who the dragon is. That's why we say
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: it's Luciferian because at least for the second half, it's
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: 100% tied to worship.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: You don't take the mark of the beast accidentally.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: It is always tied to, there's an economic component, as
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: we know, in Revelation 13, 16 through 18, but it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: tied to the worship of this figure and ultimately the dragon.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: That's exactly right. That's what I believe.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: We know that that Satan enters into the Antichrist, the beast,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the little horn, whatever you want to call them. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: so ultimately, when they're standing there wanting to be worshipped,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: it's who are you going to be worshipping? You're going
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: to be worshipping the one that's possessing them, which is Satan, Lucifer.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And as I mentioned earlier, what did he want Jesus
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: to do? If you'll fall down and worship me. And
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: so to me, that's where People can get caught up
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: in all sorts of, oh, it's going to be this
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: or that or the other thing. It's going to be
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the Noahide laws. No, no, no, no, no, it's not.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: It's going to be the Sunday law. No, no, no, no,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: it's not. It's going to be Islam. Exactly.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Everyone has their pet theory on it. And so that
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: then puts blinkers on them. They can't see anything outside
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: their own pet theory. And I'm looking at it and going,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: we don't see the whole picture yet. we see what
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: scripture tells us and we have to be really careful
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: that we don't become deceived because we have a preconceived
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: idea as to how it's going to play out.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a hundred percent again.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: And there's a distinction between the religion of the first
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: half and the religion of the second half, because we
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: do know as well that revelation nine, it describes people
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: as worshiping demons. I mean, there's, there's, there's no doubt that,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: and that's going to, be directed ultimately towards the dragon,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the Luciferian kingdom and all of what that entails.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So humility is required in all of this, no doubt.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: We watch it, but I think you think about the, again,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: the Seventh-day Adventist view that Sunday worship, there's going to
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: be a law passed that everybody has to worship on Sunday.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: And that's going to be, it just doesn't make any sense.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Remember this too, that the Jews, to their credit, the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Jews have always, going back really to the first century,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: and then of course all into rabbinic Judaism, the Jews
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: have 100% rejected a divine Messiah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: For them, God is one. There is no divine man.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: But again, they failed to nuance the understanding of what
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: the Bible says, especially the Hebrew Bible. So when they
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: accept this guy as a political deliverer, as a religious person,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: as one who gives them Torah and gives them the temple,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: that's what they're waiting for.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: So this happens. They're going to be excited. Boom, here
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: And they're going to be working together for the first
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: three and a half years as he consolidates the rest
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: of his empire. But then as we know, again, in
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: the middle, he's killed.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: He's resurrected. The 10 kings come together.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: They hand over their authority, Revelation 17, 12, and 13
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: to him. They give over their power, their authority, their capabilities.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: And then they burn the religion with fire, the harlot,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: because it says that God purposed it and put it
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: in their heart to fulfill his will. But then when
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: he declares himself to be God in 2 Thessalonians 2,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the Jews, again, consistently are going to go, This isn't
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: our guy.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: We don't believe in divine messiahs, okay? So they're going
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to reject him. Well, naturally, that's not going to go well.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: And then we know that then, according to the dragon
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: in Revelation 12, the dragon turns his attention to destroy
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  Speaker 3: the Jews, the woman, the woman Israel of Revelation 12.
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  Speaker 1: And so the Jews then flee.
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  Speaker 3: This is where, when the abomination of desolation happens in
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  Speaker 3: Matthew 24, 15, Jesus says, when you see it, he's
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  Speaker 3: talking specifically to the Jewish people, you know, get out
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  Speaker 3: of town immediately. Don't even go with your coat pray
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  Speaker 3: that it's not on the sabbath okay woe unto those
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  Speaker 3: who are nursing he says get out of town because
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: this is where the devil there's a lot of things
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: happening at the midpoint the devil's cast out of heaven
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  Speaker 3: the angels michael fights with satan and his angels satan
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  Speaker 3: is cast down to the earth he has great wrath
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: it says and he goes to seek to destroy the
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  Speaker 3: those that hold the testimony of jesus so jesus says
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  Speaker 3: get out they flee for their lives the jewish people
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  Speaker 3: they haven't come to jesus yet that doesn't happen really
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  Speaker 3: until the.
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  Speaker 1: End but.
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  Speaker 3: The religion then switches to this self-worship of this man
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  Speaker 3: who declared himself to be god and then the worship
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  Speaker 3: is of him and ultimately of the dragon so the
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  Speaker 3: jews are no longer part of this Because, again, of
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  Speaker 3: their theology of no divine messiahs, they'll recognize that later,
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  Speaker 3: that the idea of the Father, Son, and the Holy
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  Speaker 3: Spirit will be revealed to them later. But yes, we
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  Speaker 3: know the reality of understanding the fullness of the theology
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  Speaker 3: of the entire Bible, as we know in John 1.1.
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  Speaker 1: In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God,
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  Speaker 1: the Word was God.
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  Speaker 3: So we understand Jesus was not just a man elevated
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  Speaker 3: to godhood, It was the second person of the Godhead
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  Speaker 3: coming down and taking on humanity. So he's always been God.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: He wasn't elevated to be God. He's always been God
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  Speaker 3: and came down in human flesh. So that's going to
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  Speaker 3: be an interesting development. To me, I find it, Tony,
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  Speaker 3: that it's all so consistent. When you see all these
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  Speaker 3: puzzle pieces put together, it's very, very consistent all the
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  Speaker 3: way through.
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  Speaker 2: So going back to what you were saying in Matthew 24,
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  Speaker 2: so there'll be people that go, no, that what Jesus
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  Speaker 2: was talking about what happened in 70 A.D., the flee
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  Speaker 2: to the mountains and all that. But what I think
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't understand too is the Jewish
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  Speaker 2: mindset where things repeat in cycles. So this is, it's
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: like it's happened, but it'll happen again. So as it
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  Speaker 2: happened in 70 AD where the believers knew what Jesus said,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: so they fled largely before Titus and the Romans came
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  Speaker 2: in and destroyed Jerusalem. But the thing, the same pattern
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: will repeat again. And that's what people need to realize.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and there's no doubt that, you know, those that
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: hold to a preterist view or partial preterist view, I mean,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: they've tried really hard to identify some sort of very
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  Speaker 3: specific abomination of desolation that occurred, which has been unsuccessful.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: And then there's no doubt that Jesus talked about the
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: destruction of the temple, no doubt, Luke 21. But, and again,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: like you said, there's prophetic, God works this way. Why
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  Speaker 3: is it then that the temple was the original temple
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: of Solomon was destroyed on the 9th of Av? And
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: the second one was destroyed on what calendar day?
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  Speaker 1: The 9th of Av. And so there is.
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  Speaker 3: A pattern there, but we know that the ultimate pattern
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: was not fulfilled all of it in 70 AD because
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Jesus obviously didn't come back and set up his kingdom,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: et cetera. But you said it right. There's a pattern
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: there that it's going to happen again. I wouldn't not
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: be surprised then Again, that when we come to the
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel, that's a pattern.
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  Speaker 1: That happened.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: We read about that in Daniel 9, Daniel 11, Daniel 12.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: The phraseology, Jesus says, if you want to know what's
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: going to happen in the future, look to the past.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: That started under Antiochus Epiphanes. It's going to happen again.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: So the pattern does repeat, and that's going to be
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: the key marker in the time of the seventh week
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  Speaker 3: of Daniel, the time of Jacob's trouble. But he will
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  Speaker 3: be saved out of it. So Israel has a very
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  Speaker 3: difficult future ahead because they're going to put their faith
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: and trust in this false Messiah who's going to give
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: them the temple and is going to give them the Torah.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: And they'll realize in the midpoint that when this guy
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: seeks worship, we chose poorly.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. So sitting there now listening as Christians to all
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: of this, What would be the big takeaway? What do
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: we do with this information and how should it affect
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: us going forward? Because we don't want to be one
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: of those that's deceived by whatever the deception is. And
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: we could have talked about AI and all of that,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: which is playing big time into, I think, the image
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: of the beast and the worshipping of the image and
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: all of that. And we've got robots and all kinds
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of other things that could come into this picture. that
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: we haven't even looked at. But so, so we're facing
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: this quickly, rapidly advancing beast system is probably the best
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: way of looking at it. So as Christians sitting here
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: right now, what should we do?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Well, there's two things that I always say. And what
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: the first one is, it's not even what I say,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: it's what Jesus said, you know, Jesus, in Luke chapter six,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Jesus says, why do you call me Lord, Lord, but
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: don't obey me? Okay. So that's a reminder that when
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Jesus gives a commandment, he's not given a suggestion. And
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: so the commandment in Mark 13, 37, at the end
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: of describing all these events.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: He says, what I say to you, I say to everybody, watch.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: So the first commandment that we are to do is
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: we recognize that as we watch, there is a convergence
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: of prophetic signs. And that means, again, here we're talking
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: specifically about some of these, the Noahide religion or the
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: third temple or the red heifer. And then we could
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: bring in the AI and how that's going to participate
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: in the technocratic nature of the beast system, technology, and
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: the mark of the beast, and the buying and selling.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: There's all these different lines, and they're all converging right
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: now to recognize that this wasn't happening 50 years ago.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: This wasn't happening. what Jesus said is pay attention. Israel
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: didn't exist a hundred years ago, but the fact that
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: God brought him back to the land 78 years ago,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: he's like, pay attention.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. They're very central at the time of the end.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So I needed to bring them back.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: So they could fulfill their, their parts of prophetic understanding
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: and history.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: So the first thing is to watch. Okay. Not, not fear.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Jesus did not tell us all these things to produce
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: fear or anxiety or John 16, 33, Jesus says, I've
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: given you my peace, my peace is in you.
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  Speaker 1: In this world, you're gonna have tribulation, small t, okay?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Be of good cheer, I've overcome the world.
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  Speaker 3: So he tells us these things so that he said, look,
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  Speaker 3: I told you these things in advance so that you
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: would know to watch that the second coming of the
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Lord is.
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  Speaker 1: Arriving.
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  Speaker 3: It's not, again, this isn't a hundred years ago where
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: there was no Israel and you're like.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what signs do you have?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, the second thing he says is, is in Luke
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: chapter 19, verse 13, commandment. And it's in the parable
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: of the master who went away for a long time.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: And went away for a period of time. And then
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: he says, you know, he called his servants and he says,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: I'm giving you these responsibilities.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go away for a while.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: But he says, occupy until I come. So that's what
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: we're to do with the information is we're to occupy
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: and we're to watch. And occupy, what does occupy mean?
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: It means to be busy with your relationship with the Lord.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: It means to be busy evangelizing. It means to be
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: busy starting ministries. It means to be busy raising your
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: family in godliness or your friendships, seeking first the kingdom
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: of God and his righteousness, Matthew 6, 33.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: That's what it means.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: It means to be taking the Lord and the relationship
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: with him 100% serious. You know, I mean, you think
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: about you or myself, we can be, well, the Lord's coming.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I guess, you know, we should shut down our ministries,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: you know, because you know, he's going to come back soon.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: And so we, I just, I'm going to go enjoy myself.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: No, we're going to be here with these microphones until
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: he actually comes warning people, be, be ready for the
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Lord's return and be watching.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Those are the two commandments.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, with things like the Noahide laws or the
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Noahide covenant, if, Well, they do. They flatly reject Jesus
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: as God. So we therefore can't support that. So people
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be going supportive of Noahide laws. It doesn't mean
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: we have to be hateful towards those people or whatever,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: but we have to go, no, we don't actually agree
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: with this.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: It's the same if it's Islam. You can't agree with it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: No.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Or Hinduism or anything else.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Or.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: You know, people need, there is no salvation except in
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Jesus as in Acts 4.12, like you said. So we
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: can love people and go, hey, you know, but we
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: have to stand firm on what our belief is and
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: realize that there is no salvation anywhere else, whether you're Jew,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: whether you're Gentile. And so that has got to be it.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Our focus has to be on, I guess, telling people
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: you need Jesus as your Lord and Savior, no matter what.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: nationality or what country you're in. Ultimately, what did Jesus
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: tell us to do is to spread the gospel. That
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: was the Great Commission. It wasn't to support some group
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: or something or to have a social gospel. It was
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: ultimately to tell people they need Jesus. Without salvation in Jesus,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: they're lost.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Yep, 100%. It's interesting to me that.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at all these religions of the world,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: whatever they are, the various religions, pick one, throw them
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: all in a pot. The one thing that is a
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: defining factor is the person of Jesus because they And
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: this was the defining factor in his ministry because he
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: said in Matthew 10, 34, look, I didn't come to
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: bring peace, but division. And division between a father and
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: his son and a mother and the daughter and a
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: husband and his wife, the division is around the person
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: of Jesus. And this is what we see. You know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: we see this in Islam. If somebody comes to faith
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: in Jesus, now all of a sudden, boom, they're considered dead.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: If you're a Jew or an Orthodox Jew and you
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: become a follower of Jesus, they consider you dead. And
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: it creates this conflict around the person and the claims
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: of Jesus himself. Again, you know, we look at our
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: world and we talk about political correctness. We talk about tolerance. Look,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not a prophet. I didn't start a religion. I
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: didn't make any. I'm just a witness and a messenger.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: To reflect, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: and the life. Nobody comes to the Father except through me.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't say this. Jesus said it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: And so this is John 14, 6. He made it
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: very clear that whether you're Jew, you know, we see
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: these Jewish religious Jews that are praying at the wall,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: and they're bobbing, and they got their books, and, you know, they...
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: You got Islam, praying five times a day. These people
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: are sincere. You cannot get to the Father except through Jesus.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: If you do not honor the Son, John 5, 23,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: if you do not honor the Son, you do not
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: honor the Father. So there is no workaround. So all
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  Speaker 3: these religions out there, because of Jesus' words, they're all false.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: So they're just false. That's not mean. It's just a
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: fact of Jesus' comments. And so as the son of God,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: as the Messiah, he says, I came from the father
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: and I'm telling you, this is the way it is.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: And so those are facts. And so this is the
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: defining factor. So Noahide, again, what do you see? They
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: don't allow you to follow Jesus. Judaism doesn't allow you
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: to follow Jesus. Islam doesn't allow you to follow Jesus
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: as the crucified son of God. So At the end
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: of the day, this is what we know, and this
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: is what's coming to a head, and this is where
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: you have all, whether it's the harlot religion of the
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: first half, or it's the antichrist beast religion of the
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: second half. Both of them exclude Jesus. And 1 John
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: 2 tells us that the one who denies that Jesus
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: is the Messiah.
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  Speaker 1: Is the antichrist, is the spirit of the antichrist. That's
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: pretty strong.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: So, basically.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Religions will say Jesus was a prophet or Jesus was
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: a good man, Jesus was a good teacher, but they
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: will not say Jesus was who he said he was,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: which he said in, you find it in John, where
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: he said, I am, and you will see me coming
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: in the clouds of heaven. And before Abraham was, I am.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: And they knew exactly what he was saying. He was
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: claiming to be God. So that's why they tried to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: stone him.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Crystal clear.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Basically, it's not a popular view. We're not here to
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: preach a social gospel where Jesus was some prophet along
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: with Muhammad and Krishna and a bunch of others. We're
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: saying Jesus was unique. He claimed to be God. He said,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I am. And the Jews knew exactly what he was
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: claiming when they said that. That's why they hated him.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: And so as Christians, we can't expect to get favors
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: from people that don't hold that view because they don't
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: like it. And we could face persecution from Jews. We
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: could face it from Islamic. We could face it in
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: India from the.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Hindus or whoever it is.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: We just have to stand firm and know what our
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: belief is and stick to it. And if you don't
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: know Jesus, then you need to basically. So that's my
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: final thought. If you've got any last words, Mondo, share
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: them and also tell people where they find you online.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the fact of the matter is Jesus
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: came to die for us. He didn't tell us to
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: go out and to force people, to kill people that
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: didn't believe in him. He told us to go out
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: and preach the gospel and to love our enemies. I mean,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: think about that, to love and to bless them. So
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: we're here to share the word. If somebody doesn't want it,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: then hey, that's between them and the Lord. I'm not
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: here to force it or to condescend anybody. We're simply
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: to be faithful messengers of what Jesus himself said. That's
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: why I say, look, don't take it up with me.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just here sharing you what he said. So there
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: is all the religions of the world in some form
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: or another preach a works system that hopefully at the end,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: your good works outweigh your bad works. Every single one.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Christianity is unique. among all the religions of the world,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: is that we're all sinners. There's none good, no, not one.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: And that we're saved not by works, but by grace
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: through faith in Jesus alone.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: So that's the gospel message.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: And that really is why we're here. We want people
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: to be rescued and to be saved by him. We
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: know that judgment is coming. And so we're here to
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: warn people because Jesus told us to. And he loves them.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: He died for them. And so we want them to
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: follow him and to have forgiveness of sin, which only
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: he can provide. And so that, again, Tony, I always
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: appreciate coming on because that's why we're here. You know,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: people want to find us, prophecywatchers.com. Of course, we're on
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: a whole, all the social networks can find us, but
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: that's our main place.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: And we're busy.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: We're busy like you are trying to get the word
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: out and looking and watching and occupying until he comes.