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Back to Madison · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: You ever see a shadow out of the corner of your eye?
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  SPEAKER_02: Ever had a feeling that something someone is watching?
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_02: You ask yourself why these spirits are here.
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  SPEAKER_02: What do they want?
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  SPEAKER_02: Are they lost?
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  SPEAKER_02: Are they trapped?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm Ryan, and I run a paranormal group called Nuclear Soul Seekers.
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  SPEAKER_02: These are just some of the questions we ask when we do an investigation.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_02: We just don't try to get evidence of the paranormal.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_02: We try to get answers.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're listening to Trapped Souls.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to Trap Souls.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm Ryan with my co-host Aaron.
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  SPEAKER_10: Hola.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_03: And we're back to Madison.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yup.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_03: So we hit Madison one more time, and probably many more times.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_03: And it was a good good time.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna go over a lot of having this day.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_03: So what'd you think about your second time?
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_07: I think what I really like the most about going back was being as it was daytime when we first started doing everything.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_07: It was a different feel, but there was still the same feeling of yes, there is there are things there.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_07: There is something there.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_07: It was watching, and I say it because I don't know what it was.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_07: So it I I know, even though I was sick during that time, um, there was still quite a few interesting things that happened.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, we started off in the daytime.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_03: We got there around 7:30, obviously.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_03: Last time it was winter time, so it was dark a lot earlier.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not gonna play the lot of the recordings, but I was kinda upset because it's day, it's day, it's day.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: And we had uh two, three guests that never done paranormal before.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: And we had our friend co-worker Carrie with her son Connor, who's 20.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think they're skeptics, they had experiences back in the day, but they never done anything like this.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna get right into the day shift investigations, want to say.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_07: And with Connor, I will say, I had a laugh because he's very typical 20-year-old boy guy man.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_07: Um, when he came in, and you know, he wanted to not be afraid, but at the same time, there was that inkling of fear you could see in the background, and then whenever he dealt with what he dealt with, there was like, oh, okay, yeah, this is this is legit.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_07: This is something that I should start thinking more about.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, I mean, it was funny.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_03: He was funny.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's a 20-year-old boy, but he he's a mama's boy.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh sorry, Connor, if you ever gonna listen to this, but you're a mama's boy.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_07: He said he was protecting his mom, so I will say that he was protecting his mom.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_03: Even when we told Connor to go do something by himself, he'd be like, I want my mom with me so I can protect her.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it was funny.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he was good.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: He had his uh first experience right off the get-go.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_03: We were in Sarah's room.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_03: And nothing really going on.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_03: So it was daylight out, and we'll play this one EVP.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's hard to hear at the end, but we'll explain what happened.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_07: And while you're doing that, I also want to say, even when you're going into these places, you're not always going to have something happen every time.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_07: And I think that's the biggest thing for most people when they start doing any sort of paranormal investigation.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_07: They think they're going in, and it's gonna immediately from the word go, they're gonna deal with you know, apparitions or things being moved, anything like that, which it doesn't, it doesn't work like that.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_07: So, you know, for certain groups to have when we split off, certain groups that they have their own, you know, things that do happen as opposed to, you know, like I didn't have too much.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_07: I did have one big thing happen to me as opposed to the last time I was there when a lot more happened.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_07: So I do think that it's kind of helpful in a way that you're not always not that it's helpful, you're not always going to get something, you're not always gonna see something, but it keeps you thinking, keeps you doing more.
• 4:17
  unknown: Yeah.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so Connor's in the second floor, and this is Connor's first experience.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: We'll just play it a little clip, we'll play it through, you'll hear it.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_03: We'll talk about a little after.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_06: What was that?
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  SPEAKER_06: Did you hear that?
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_10: You didn't hear it.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_06: That was literally right next to my ear.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_06: I swear to God.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_06: No, it was like a way.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_06: Dude, what?
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_06: No, that was loud in my ear.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_06: That was scary.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_07: I wasn't in the room for that, so this is the first time I'm hearing it.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I mean it it was it didn't show up on the EVP, so EVP was kind of by the mirror.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_03: If you guys ever been in Sarah's room, Connor was in a corner.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_03: I was all the way on the other side of the room, and I heard it.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was pretty loud.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, everybody heard it besides your deaf husband.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_07: Well, he's deaf, so yeah.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_03: So you guys heard the little bone.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'll play that one more time for you guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the EVP really doesn't do justice.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was But that's still frightening just to hear it from that aspect.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_03: And we're sitting there, I mean, this is almost nine minutes in.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: We're just sitting there doing EVP, nothing's happening, nothing's happening.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: And then like Connor freaked out a little bit.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you could hear it in his voice.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_03: He said it was like deafening, not deafening, but deep in his voice.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like it came right across his left ear.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's cool though.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_03: He had an experience.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_03: I mean you always want to go to these ghost hunts investigations to have an experience.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_03: Nine minutes in, he has an experience.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm glad he got to have that experience.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_10: Absolutely.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: It was a good experience.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_03: I wish it would uh capture a little better on the EVP, but that's investigation.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's why we do podcasts, not videos.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_03: 99% audio.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_03: So we're going another one.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_03: Same as Sarah's room.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_03: This is with Connor.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_03: This one's a little long, like 30 seconds, but you guys will hear it.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_06: I damn you felt it.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_06: It felt weird, like my whole life, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_06: That's cool though.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_06: I'm telling you, she's gonna be happy.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, well, we're gonna be taking off here in a little bit.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_06: Is there holes in this window?
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_06: Because this this one keeps on moving over your curtain.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I don't do two.
• 8:12
  unknown: Oh man.
• 8:13
  unknown: Okay.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_03: So I I don't know what to think about this one.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_07: There was two things I heard.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: There's two things.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um you hear like a girl moan.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: And then the all man.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'll play that real quick.
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  unknown: Oh man.
• 8:30
  unknown: Okay.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like I don't remember her saying that.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_03: We weren't talking about anything.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: The all man look in the mirrors.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_03: I think the all man is something.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if that's me saying look in the mirrors, but I don't remember saying it.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_07: But even listening to it and knowing everybody's voices that were with us, that's not something like, you know, I would hear your voice or Craig's voice or something.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_07: That's not like I can pick that.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_07: I'll be like, oh no, that was Craig talking, or that was Ryan talking.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean we'll play a little before, see if we can catch anything.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean when I first heard it, misses enhance a little bit, so like the mirrors have sound more human.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_03: I hand it a little bit, but when I first heard it, it's just like oh man, looking mirrors.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_03: We looked in the mirrors.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_03: And a little girl mode.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_03: So again, EVP worked out good on that one.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_07: That was the room, the very first time that Craig and I went, um, I had played Battleham of the Republic in Sarah's room.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_07: And there was a lot of activity that happened as I was playing it, because that song was, you know, very prominent during that time frame, especially when Sarah was around.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_07: And so, you know, my thing was let's try to use something of the time to draw them forward, not necessarily out, but forward.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_07: So that I feel like anytime that we've gone into Sarah's room, things have happened in there.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so again, back to Sarah's room.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: We do have a lot of evidence here for Madison.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: Back to Madison.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: We'll go over all, give our experience on Aaron.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: So Aaron wasn't feeling good that night.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_03: Spirits got to her.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: So she she left a little early, so there's lots of stuff.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_03: So there's a lot of stuff she hasn't heard.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna play.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: There's a book up there in Sarah's room, and I think I asked if you want Tigan read this book.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: You want T gonna talk early or read your book by yourself?
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: So you can hear it a little bit right here.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_03: Oh they're playing with the ball up there, but you can hear the answer.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's pretty clear.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_07: In my opinion, I'll say that, but it's that is a no.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_07: No, yeah.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: Do you want to read this book?
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: So sorry, Tigan.
• 11:02
  unknown: Yeah.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_03: Now that I read that book.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_07: Next time, maybe.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_07: Not this time.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_03: We only have one more EVP and we'll go right into it again.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: Do you believe in the stuff, Nico?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_03: This is when we're about to leave.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, do it one more time.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_03: I hear get out.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_07: I hear something.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_07: What I can't I can't.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_07: I there it that is something talking.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_07: That I could definitely hear.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_03: So I hear get out, I'll play one more time, and now everybody's gonna hear get out because that's the way EPPs work.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_03: I mean that's that's what I got out of it.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: Close EVPs when they're not right there.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: You can make what you want to make out of it.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_03: So this was there was what five of us up there.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: It was me, Tegan, Craig, Connor, Nikki, and we had uh Lane's son Nico up there.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: But when we first did it, we split up into groups.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, I did play the game, we rolled the dice, and some people want one place, some people want the other place.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: And this is what we got.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, obviously I don't have everybody's, I only have my recorder.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: I did have Aaron's recorder.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, when they were an addict, I didn't get much on that.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_03: There might be one thing up there.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: And she's never to record for two hours ever again.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, really fast.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_07: I forgot the recorder up there.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_07: That was not intentional, and then it was like, oh, maybe there's something on there.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_07: Oh no, there wasn't.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_07: Sorry.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, Aaron's never allowed to forget a recorder ever again.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so we went back, met up, decided to split up in groups of two.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: So this is Sarah's room.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: I picked Sarah's room again.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't pick it.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_03: There was that we'll do.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I got my daughter with me.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_03: So I believe these are some spirit boxes.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Again, hard to hear, pretty loud, but I'll play them and see what you guys think of it.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: So you kind of hear it there.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: So there's like two yes.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so one more time.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: So I got this voice on the ground.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I heard the woman's voice really clearly.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_03: Again, that's a direct answer.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: Do you want us to leave?
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_03: And like the square box section, we heard voices, but we didn't really understand what they were saying at that time.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: And we'll just go through them real quick and get everybody's output on that.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think it says?
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: I heard of course.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: See, I didn't hear that.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_03: Well play one more time and then I'll give you things what I think it said.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know I am.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_07: You know I am.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, obviously I put this on a loop and listened to it like 50 times.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_07: But that was very definite of, yeah, I'm right here with her, regardless, of course, or you know I am, but yeah.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so me and Tegan did some EMF readings up there.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: And it was it was interesting.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: The corner where Connor was sitting, very high EMF.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: But there's a radiator up there.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_03: So the close you get to the radiator, I mean it was jumping to 100.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_03: So back off, and I had in my hand, it was reading like 60s.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: Go down a little bit, drop to 30s.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_03: Go up to my waist again, chest area, go up to 60s, to my head, back to 30s.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: So is that the size of a kid?
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: It could be, yeah.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: It could be.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_03: Tegan was laying on the bed, and she says she felt something next to her, so we did that, and it was like from her knee to her like shoulder was reading 80s.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: And we were it was sixties at first, and we were like, Can you make it to go to 70?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: And she wasn't moving it.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: And it actually moved to 70.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: So we were getting direct responses.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_03: Size of a kid laying next to her.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_03: And she's her age.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: She's more of a lure, if you will.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_03: And we when she got off and like five, ten minutes after we put the MF on the bed, nothing.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: Back to 30s.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: So there's no EMF.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_03: After she got it so it was a cool experience.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: So that was being too in Sarah's room.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: Decent little action, got some answers, a little darker out then.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_03: I still don't believe Sarah's up there.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_07: You know?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_07: What do you think is up there?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_07: Because there's something.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_07: There is something there.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: There's something there.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: And we were asking a lot of questions, like, did you leave because the new spirits came in?
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_03: Because all the equipment.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was there's a walker up there.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, a little girl doesn't need a walker.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: So it's one of the things that we we did ask a lot of questions if she was there.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_03: Again, I asked if she's just portraying a little girl, whoever it is.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: And we have a couple cool pictures.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: We'll post on Nuclear Soul Seekers on the Facebook page.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: Tiny took some pictures in a mirror.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_03: And then one picture, you see the dolls in the mirror.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: Then the next picture she took actually looks like a little kid in the mirror.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like a ghost image.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: And it's the same picture, but one picture doesn't have the ghost image, the other one does.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: We'll post that, let you guys get your opinions on that.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_07: Again, always take pictures when you're out doing stuff.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_07: Sometimes you'll just feel like, oh my gosh, I've got to take a picture in this corner.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_07: Do it.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_07: Take a couple of them.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_07: No harm.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_07: You can delete pictures.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: Just like I'm gonna delete most of this podcast.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so Aaron was still here for this.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: We did an experiment.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: Devil's Toy Box.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody knows about the Devil's Toy Box, who's been the Madison the last few couple years.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_03: Rome, all mirrors.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's a prop, but still could attract spirits.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: So we decided to put Tegan and Maine doing the Estes method in the Devil's Toy Box.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: And usually we ask questions through the door.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: But this time Aaron called my phone.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: I put it on a speaker, put in the devil's toy box with my recorder, and we went down the hallway around the corner.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: And we asked questions.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: And it was some good responses.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna play some of that.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's probably the most we got out of everything.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: Again, that's his method.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: It is fun.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: You can't get some of the answers.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_12: Are you happy there in a double toy box?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: That was right off the rip.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean it was like four minutes in.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: Are you happy in a double toy box?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: So somewhat stuck in there because all the mirrors are.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: Did we call something in there that's not happy to be there?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: Next time we go back, we'll find hopefully find an answer.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: And this one's kind of cool.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: We were doing the Estus method.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: But we did actually get some EVPs inside the devil's toy box, which I like.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: I love EVPs.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_05: Do you guys like Brian?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: Brian was with us at Fairfield.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Decided to come back.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: And Brian's girlfriend this time.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: I think she was a little freaked out most of the time, but um, for some reason, like Bird, they just don't like Brian.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll give it a moan one more time.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, that is, you know, give it one more time.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_05: Do you guys like Brian?
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_07: You're saying moan, and I'm hearing a very, very distinct no.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_07: I'm hearing like a moan breath.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_07: Like, ah oh no, I hear no.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_07: Like that really guttural get the hell out of here.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_07: No, I don't want him in here.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean it could be.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_07: I mean Regardless, it was not happy Brian was there.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Either way, it wasn't like, yay, Brian's here.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_07: So of course if they had his cookies, they would have been okay.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_03: Of course we were missing one of our members, Sarah.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Sarah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: Poor Sarah had to miss it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: I heard about it.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_03: The good thing is, Madison didn't forget Sarah.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, we always had to bring Sarah up because she is a staple in our group.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: And we're just gonna play this for you and see what you think.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_12: Do you miss Sarah?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, we do.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_12: We want Sarah to come back.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_03: They miss Sarah.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_03: Then we go right into the next question.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_11: Do you want Sarah to sit in Devil's Toy Box by herself next time she comes back?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_11: Next time we're here, Sarah will be on Devil's Toy Box by herself.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_04: We definitely.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: There's your answer.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: They want Sarah and Delho's Toy Box.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: So everybody knows I like to play games and I like to threaten stuff.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: But I wanna be honest.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_07: The living, not the dead.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the living.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I want to be honest with you.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: I like pushing people to their limit.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm a good reader when I'm about to break down limit.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: I will never make it.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: If someone's about to cry, I'm not gonna make them do it.
• 21:59
  unknown: Okay.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like I always say I'm going to, and luckily not everybody listens to this podcast, so I can still push some people.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I'm never gonna push anybody to the brink of a panic attack.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: No, but I do like to see how far I can push them.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like, am I gonna try to get Sarah in Devil's Toy Box?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, you're absolutely going to try.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: Am I going to?
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's no chance at how Sarah's going to Devil's Toy Box.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_07: Here, I'm saying this now on the podcast, so it's heard.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_07: If Sarah goes into the Devil's Toy Box, I will go in with her.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_07: And that is saying a lot.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_07: So there it is.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, I guess we can do it that way.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_07: We're both gonna need diapers, so.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's a wood floor, so it'll kind of be easy.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_07: I'll bring towels.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_07: We could just sit on those.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: So this is so again, Lane and Tegan were in the devil's toy box, and this is what happened to Tegan.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh what?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Something just touched my leg.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't touch you.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like down here.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: Then got her leg touched, and I believe that's when she had the scratches on her.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: She had two scratches going down.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh small, like three-inch scratches.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_03: And they were they were new scratches, like the skin was a little raised on them.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: Nothing like they weren't bleeding or anything, but it was just after the Devil's Toy Box, she says she had scratches on it.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: I guess you can get scratched in Devil's Toy Box.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: Good experience when it gets scratched.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's always good to have good evidence when it's not yourself.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_03: Sacrifice.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_03: Just your kid.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry, do you get the kid?
• 23:53
  unknown: Yeah.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_03: She's just staring at me right now while I'm doing this.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me your name.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_03: That was pretty blatant.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me your name.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me your name.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: We get a lot of no's and yeses.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_03: I I think it's because they're small words, one syllable word is easy to less energy that they have to pull up.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: Less energy.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_12: Is Sarah still upstairs?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_12: Okay.
• 24:27
  unknown: You're not talking about.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah's room.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_11: All the stairs and stairs are stairs and serves room?
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_04: Sarah's here.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_07: There was a lot of talking going on in the background of that one.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: We did have a phone in there.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_07: But when I'm saying talking, again, not us.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_07: It sounded like something else was joining the conversation.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_03: We'll play it again.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think you hear a little breath in there.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: There's something else right after.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_12: Is Sarah still upstairs?
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah's room.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, the Sarah's and Sarah's room?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_11: Sarah's in Sarah's room?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea what that is.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_07: It sounds like you're not wrong.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: I hear now you know what.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_07: And again.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe not.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so that that was Devil's Toy Box.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't disappoint, got some answers.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: Not the answers we're looking for as a paranormal group, but again, you know, the T got scratched, so we know something in there is that nice, and maybe we're pushing it.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_03: We weren't really asking bad questions.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think we're having a little more fun questions.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: And I think we're gonna have to go back to trying to get questions that we want, though.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh second floor office, uh I know who was all up there at that time.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: Second floor office, I don't know, you've been out there, you've had experiences up there.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, not much in my recordings.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_07: That was the office where they first said your name when we were up there that first time.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's that's the office they called me an asshole.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_07: No, well, that was that office.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_07: My my name was the attic.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_07: But they called you the one time we went, they said your name straight out.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, they call Lane's name and the room next to it.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I mean you you the office I don't get really eerie feeling.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's the one next to it.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: It gives me the little heebie jeebies, I guess you want to call it.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_07: Your jeebies have been heebied.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna play this mainly for Erin because I wanna get her take on it.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: I did a little research on it.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh god.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to get her take on this of what she actually hears.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: What is my name?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_07: There is a very faint voice in that.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_07: Ryan.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_07: Ryan.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_07: Do you hear?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't hear Ryan.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: Would you hear?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_03: Real.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like I actually had to look it up.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: It is a demonic energy.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, good.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_07: Good.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: So it's things like West and East Demonic.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: And Recal is actually believe the West, but I didn't write all the information down.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'll play it again.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_03: Because I was I didn't hear Ryan at all.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: I heard Recal.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, what is Regal?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: So I actually looked it up.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: What is my name?
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_07: And again, you know, you've said it, so in my you know, my brain is going, oh no, maybe you do hear.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_07: But there it begins with an R.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_07: I can definitely say that there is an R word in there.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_03: I heard a Q.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I because you hear that.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_07: But it there's something there.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll put it one more time.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: What is my name?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: Something.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_03: It was weird because I'm like Rico.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: What's Rico?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: Usually when it can aim, I try to look at a Madison.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I put Rico in and it was just like.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's like demonic but not demonic.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's like that boar a lot.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_03: Gotcha.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe it's a nice demonic energy.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, a nice demonic energy.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_07: I like that.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_07: Like trying to put a toddler to bed.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: So you guys were on third floor in it too.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Did you guys get anything up there?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_07: Um, no, not really.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_07: Um there was some creeks, some it wasn't it wasn't as blatant as some of the stuff.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_07: Um, like I said, I know that it was myself and um Brian and Liz, and we were in the office, and they were probably three feet behind me.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_07: And as I'm standing there, they're talking to each other, and I felt something literally touch my back end.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_07: It just it touched me.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_07: And when I turned around, for as fast as it happened, for me turning around, if it would have been them, they would have still been like in the motion of pulling their hand back.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_07: So it wasn't it wasn't either of them.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: So all right, so I didn't even know this one, but we're gonna talk about it anyways.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: Tegan and Connor.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: So Connor had that experience down in Sarah's room.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_03: We went to the attic.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_03: Did you guys leave already?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so you guys are gone already.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: It was a pretty cool experience.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Of course.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_03: So I was in like the room, I feel that it's a little more darker.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: They decided to go into the room right next to it.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_07: Is that the room down at the end of the hall to the it's like the one in the corner corner?
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's okay.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: We walked straight down the hall.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_03: The one to the right is the one I don't like.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_07: Did you yes.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_07: Did you smell anything in that room?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_07: When we were up there, now that you're asking me this, and I do remember, we walked into that room and it smelled like something was dead in that room.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was we did only one back up.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, so you smelled that and there was nothing in there.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_07: That was a f and I mean it was blatant mouse or something up there.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: The ceiling is actually falling.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it's anything like death spirit.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_07: No, but I mean it was very pungent.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it was pungent.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_07: It was also hot as hell up there.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_03: If you walk straight, the room to the right at the end is the one I don't like.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: They went into the room straight ahead.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: So there's a whole bunch of like baby dolls and toys on the ground, and you know, the fake voodoo doll had pins in it.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: I said he bought a doll at Walmart and put pins in it.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: But, you know, people get freaked out about that.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: So they decided to uh Estes method.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_03: Connor's never done it before.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, she can have.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_03: She's our Estes queen.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, she is.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: I swear.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_03: So she decided to ask this with Connor.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: And it was interesting.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: We got a lot of direct answers.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: I wish I would edit this by some other reason I didn't.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_03: But whatever, we'll talk about it.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: But I did ask at one point, can you growl?
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, growl like you did upstairs.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: And it was like 15 seconds later.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: Both of them are like, oh, loud growl.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_07: Oh no.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_03: So it did respond.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: So another good experience for Connor to have that to get that feedback.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_03: And he did a good job.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: SS is a pain in the butt to do.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: Only certain people can do it.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: Some people do it more than others.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: We'll just leave it at that.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: And not everything you hear on the radio is a spirit.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's all you can say.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's I like using AM because there's not a lot of things going on.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_03: And I've seen people do reverse AM channels.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if you go and reverse AM channels, you still get some radio feedback, but it's less likely.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_03: The words aren't in reverse, just the channels are going back in reverse.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_07: You have to be very discerning.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_07: You have to really, it's it takes a lot of mental capacity, truthfully, because not only are you going in that split second of, you know, there is a question being asked, you're not necessarily hearing the question, but you're hearing what is coming through, and then you're making sure that you're actually saying, okay, this is you know what the spirit's saying versus okay, I'm actually picking up something on the channel.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, you'll like when we do the podcast and I edit all this out, when we ask questions, we give it 20 seconds.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_03: But what in the podcast you'll hear answers right after because I can't make the podcast four hours long because it'll just be a whole bunch of dead space and kind of listening to Aaron's recording, then it's like third floor attic.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, again, two hours of dead space.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I add it out so you guys don't have to sit there and listen to a whole bunch of dead space.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: No pun intended.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: God to the EVP.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: So second floor office was good for me, it's good for her.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Nikki, she's uh still a guest for our group, but she's really getting into this.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_03: She did go in the devil's toy box by herself.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: I think she fell asleep in there though.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: Because she was she laid on the ground.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: The girl would do anything, like she just wants to learn how to do it better.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: She really was not into it.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think she got hooked at Fairfield.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_03: Which is cool.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: She's always doing research, always want to learn new stuff.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: She's a good asset to the team.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she is.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'll try to explain it.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: So Nikki and I ended up going to the grade room.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: She wanted to learn how to use the dowsing rods.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, she heard about them, she never used them before.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: Her friend uses them a lot, so she's like, Can I try them?
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, Yeah, we'll go there.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: We did EVPs, and we had a REM pod.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: Again, REM pod this whole time never went off.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: No, this whole investigation.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes you get the go-off, sometimes you don't, and that's why we have different equipment.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_03: We have REM pods, we have dowsing rods, which I'm not a big believer in.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_03: Just let you know.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: They're fun to use, not a huge believer.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_03: SS method, cool, but not a hundred percent.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: I like EVPs.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: EVPs, even a spirit box getting voices through spare box, those are my two favorite.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_03: I I think because I listen to all the EVPs, I enjoy it.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like when you're doing EVPs, you don't get any feedback.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_03: Gotcha.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_03: But sitting at home in the dark with my headphones on and just 15 minutes of us talking, then that voice come through.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_07: That's psychotic behavior.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_07: I'm just gonna throw that out there.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's exciting.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I that's that's exciting.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like you do a lot of stuff in life you do for a long time, it's just that one thing.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, you're right.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: That you kind of get hooked on, and I guess kind of like gold mining.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, right.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_07: Once you get that first piece of gold.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_03: You get that gold fever.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I have EVP fever.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: I if I can that's why I do a lot of everywhere we go, I record when we do these go-s.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_03: So that that's gonna wrap up Madison for us.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, any other experiences that you had there?
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you're only there in like five hours.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I wasn't there very long, and I think a lot of it, I honestly, because of how I was feeling at that time, I really do think that it kind of um shuttered a lot of what I could have been picking up and how I was feeling because I was feeling so poorly.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_07: But um, no, I I really enjoy going to Madison.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_07: There's a lot that happens there.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_07: Um, and again, like what I said earlier about you know, you may not have something happen every single time, every single room you go into.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_07: But again, I was touched.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_07: I hadn't been touched last time.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_07: Um, the first time I went in, I wasn't touched, but I had something come at me in the room.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, medicine doesn't disappoint.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, again, I've been there multiple times, and that's always something.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: We know we know the hot spots.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, me personally, I like to take a smaller group there.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: Because this is trap souls, we are trying to find answers.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_03: And this one was more fun, I think.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: Based on fun.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we had a couple of new people that never done it before, just wanted them to get the experience.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_03: Again, if you want that experience or not sure how to about go about it, you know, you contact me at Trapsoulz0 at gmail.com or Nuclear Soul Seekers Facebook page.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_07: Yep, send a message and you know, we'll let you know.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_07: But Madison is a really good place for a beginner.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_07: I know that you always say that the flashlight tour isn't what you personally like to do, but I think it's a good step into it and then you know coming with us to someplace like Madison would be a good a good way to start.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, if the water's cold, jump in.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um just come with us.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna go back again.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, you can reach me at I'm Trap Souls has his own Facebook page now, too.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_03: You can go there, it's just all about the podcast, and we'll go from there.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you want if you're interested, we always like new people.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_07: Even trying just one time and saying, you know, and if you come with us and you're like, nah, it's not our deal, then hey, you get to take that off your box of hey, I tried it, it wasn't for me.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_07: Cool, you know, we want that those other people, we want somebody else because they might bring something to us that we're like, oh hey, we never thought about that.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_07: Let's try that from here on out.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_07: So we want to be inclusive in that whole aspect, not like, oh no, you can't party, you can't sit with us.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you can sit with us.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, like Connor had experiences this first time.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_03: His mom, Carrie.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think she really I mean, she had some.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but nothing like what Connor had.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_03: And Brian's girlfriend was just like a little freaky, yeah, freaked out.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_03: Which that's an experience.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like you don't have to have someone touch you, right?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to hear that growl.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to have just going in a room and tightening up, like your stomach tightens up, like something's bad in here.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: That's a cool experience.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's a cool experience.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go in that room and hopefully get some other stuff, but if that's all I had, it'd be cool.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like Fairfield, I really didn't even have that.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I really didn't get like the tents and okay.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, a little bit here and there, like uh something's in here.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_03: There was a lot of chaotic energy at Fairfield.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: So I wonder if it's a lot of residual there.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was hoping the elevator would open up there.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: I would have died.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: I would have got in.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_03: I would have joined the souls there.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: You would have gotten in, yes.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm used to elevators at work.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: You don't know if you're gonna make it.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: Again, I'd like to back to I like to go to Madison with a small group just to get answers.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: And just mainly just do EVPs or maybe a spirit box the whole time.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_03: You know, sit down in third floor attic with you know, REM pod and EVPs and just sit there for two hours and ask questions.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, see what happens.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's what I want to do next, but that's not what we're gonna do next.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: We are going to Bel Air House.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a bucket list house that we want to do this year.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_03: So the plan is we are going.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_03: Again, small house, we're gonna take only a few members.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_03: Man, because if the weather is bad, we have nowhere to go.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_03: You can't be in a house and not investigate because it's small, it's old, it's gonna you're gonna hear a lot of background noises, and I hate background noises.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_03: If I'm gonna get some evidence, I want it to be real.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_03: I don't need someone talking downstairs and me thinking it's a spirit talking to us.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: But if you haven't watched an episode on Bellar House, watch it.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of creepy.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_03: Huge history, go to their webpage, huge a lot of stuff.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_03: They're talking like portals.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_07: What is it?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_07: Ley lines.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_07: There was the um Native American Barrow Ground.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_07: The Native American Barrow Grounds, the mine that was underneath that the people died in.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_07: So there's a lot of energy and activity there.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it'd be interesting.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean, we want to do Belair House, we want to do Bill Manor, and my number one on the bucket list.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_07: College Hill.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_03: Old Hospital College Hill.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_03: And that's gonna wrap up this episode, I believe.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_07: I will say this: if you guys have any suggestions for houses or places that you would like for us to go and you know get our feedback on it, again, let us know at Trap Souls, let us know at the Nuclear Soul Seekers.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_07: Um, we really would appreciate that because while we're doing research, we're still relying on things that we hear word of mouth as well.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_03: So if you think you have something in your house and you just want answers, I mean we don't have to take the group, like Aaron and I can just come and do a session to see what you have in there.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna tell you 99% of the time, it's just a spirit that just wants to be known.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're not evil, they're not mad.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_03: If you want answers, let us know.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: We'll we'll help you out.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_03: And it's free of charge.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, hey, there you go.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_07: That's two.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_03: Everything's better free.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, absolutely.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, so Madison Back to Madison was good.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_03: We had a good time.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_03: And hopefully we will be going back, and I'm sure we'll be going back.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was kind of scared to call this episode Back to Madison because next one will be back, back to Madison.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_07: Return of the Future.
• 43:03
  unknown: Yeah.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we will be back there plenty of times.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_03: You never know, we might hit it before we go to Bell our house.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_03: Again, questions, comments, yeah.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_03: Nuclear Soul Seekers on Facebook, Trap Souls on Facebook.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_03: You can message me on either one.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: Email link is on the all the podcast.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_03: And talk to you soon.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: Until next time.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_07: Say spooky, everyone.