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Patriots Unfiltered 9/13: Minicamp Day 2 Observations, Biggest Takeaways So Far · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: By from Patriots Mini Camp.
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  Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Welcome to day too of Patriots Mandatory Mini Camp.
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  Speaker 3: We are high above the practice feels at Jillette Stadium.
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  Speaker 4: It's Fred Kersh, Paul Pirello, Mike you So later to
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  Speaker 4: be joined by Tamara Brown and Evan Lazarre, and we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna bring you everything we see and hear from Patriots
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  Speaker 4: practice today. Uh, probably for the next couple hours or so,
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  Speaker 4: as we did yesterday. It's day two and let's get
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  Speaker 4: right into it. Guys, after one day of Mandatory Mini Camp.
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  Speaker 4: What are your observations?
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, It was a light day. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: don't think there was a ton to you know, really glean.
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  Speaker 5: I thought the offense, you don't, made a couple of
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  Speaker 5: plays here. I thought the defense was throwing a lot
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  Speaker 5: of different kind of looks at the offense.
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  Speaker 6: Which I just you know, when you get into mini camp,
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  Speaker 6: you're not really sure how much you're just installing if you're.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of in a base kind of offense. Hi, I'm here.
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  Speaker 6: So to get back to what I actually said, wondering
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  Speaker 6: why I couldn't hear myself, uh light day yesterday, I thought,
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  Speaker 6: I thought the defense threw a lot of you know twists,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of you know, guys coming and going you're
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  Speaker 6: not sure you know some uh you know disguise that
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  Speaker 6: they're often you know, known for. Uh. So I thought
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  Speaker 6: that stuff was interesting, a couple of nice throws from Mac,
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  Speaker 6: but but overall not a highly competitive practice with a
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  Speaker 6: lot to glean from.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree with Mike one hundred percent on that.
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  Speaker 7: And I thought, you know how Fred, we like to say,
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  Speaker 7: we don't know exactly what the goal was for practice
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  Speaker 7: every day, you know, especially at this time of year
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  Speaker 7: when there's mostly evaluations. I thought yesterday was a day
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  Speaker 7: that was more designed to a defense. I thought they,
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  Speaker 7: you know, like Mike said, they dialed up some pressures.
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  Speaker 7: I thought they gave some different looks. At one point
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  Speaker 7: we even saw a cornerback blitz. And I do think
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  Speaker 7: that the offense, for the most part, handled some of
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  Speaker 7: those looks pretty well. But I thought the defense was
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  Speaker 7: a little bit better yesterday. Now, I don't know if
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  Speaker 7: that was by design. I don't know if that was
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  Speaker 7: something that was supposed to be that way. But I
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  Speaker 7: would also agree with Mike and that most, if not
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  Speaker 7: everything was done at half speed or less.
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  Speaker 4: We even saw one session where Malie Cunningham was giving
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  Speaker 4: the defense the starting you know, what we think of
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  Speaker 4: is the starting defensive guys looks you know, for a
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  Speaker 4: mobile quarterback. So that was interesting to see. I kind
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  Speaker 4: of have a pet peeve that a little rant.
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  Speaker 5: I love rants, especially early in the show.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: I know that it's called mandatory mini caamp, and when
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  Speaker 4: somebody doesn't show up for mandatory minicamp, you want to
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  Speaker 4: know why, you know. I think that's a story. I think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like who's here, who's not here? Definitely a story.
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  Speaker 4: But I hear people saying that the story of minicamp
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  Speaker 4: today was attendance. Really name one mandatory minicamp where everybody
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  Speaker 4: was there for.
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  Speaker 3: The Patriots, for any team.
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  Speaker 5: I can't give you the specific years, but more often
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  Speaker 5: than not that's.
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  Speaker 4: The case most of the guys. But there's always somebody,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's injury. In this case, there might.
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  Speaker 5: No injuries are here, yeah, but I'm talking about Lawrence
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  Speaker 5: Guy and Trent.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always something. I mean we you know, Lawrence
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  Speaker 4: guy reportedly might be holding out. Okay, they treated you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's a story. But like I heard somebody say, that's
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  Speaker 4: a sign of the dysfunction going on in Foxborough. Really
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  Speaker 4: and then they and then this person you know, went
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  Speaker 4: on to list all the other people that have held
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  Speaker 4: out before.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a list of people on this team that have.
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  Speaker 3: Held out before.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's not you know, I mean, come on, listen,
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  Speaker 4: we want we take attendance for a reason. We want
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  Speaker 4: to know who's here, who's not here. Perfectly valid, But
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  Speaker 4: like the story of Mini Camp, in my opinion, was
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  Speaker 4: not attendance yesterday. I mean, Trent Bown missed a missed
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  Speaker 4: a plane. He's probably gonna get disciplined for that, absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: But I think there's a lot more to talk about
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  Speaker 4: than who was here and who wasn't here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's part of the story.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 7: If if people were taking it as that's a sign
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  Speaker 7: of the dysfunction or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: You're taking it too far.
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  Speaker 2: I heard those exact words.
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  Speaker 7: Then that's that's taking one of your shows. Let's take
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  Speaker 7: it too far. Now, I would say, well, none of
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  Speaker 7: my shows are on in the morning, so.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, divorcing himself from the morning.
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  Speaker 5: Don't do anything in the morning.
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  Speaker 7: You don't do anything but part time contributor in the
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  Speaker 7: mid days with so and Beatle and I'm a regular
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  Speaker 7: contributor with Felgrims.
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  Speaker 3: Those are my shows. But anything pretty much anything shows.
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  Speaker 7: But I would say, if you're trying to characterize it
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  Speaker 7: that the way you just explained it, I would agree
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  Speaker 7: with you, Freddie, I think that's taking it way too
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  Speaker 7: far into a level that's not really in existence.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that the the Attendant yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Was a story.
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  Speaker 7: It was one of the things that I was I
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  Speaker 7: was really interested in as we started the show to
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  Speaker 7: see if Trent Brown and Lawrence Guy in Juju's Smith
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  Speaker 7: Schuster to use the three guys that we were in
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  Speaker 7: Matthew Judon. Those are four guys that we really didn't
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  Speaker 7: see at all during the spring. We think Smith Schuster
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  Speaker 7: is hurt because we always here. Judon was out on
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  Speaker 7: the field and the other two weren't right. So I
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  Speaker 7: don't think that's like whoa. I mean, we got to
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  Speaker 7: get rid of this whole regime, right, you know, the
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  Speaker 7: foundation is falling apart of it. You know, as we speak,
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  Speaker 7: but I do think that was part of this.
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  Speaker 4: It absolutely should be. Again, it's mandatory mini camps, so
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  Speaker 4: who wasn't here? That's a story. But man to say that,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's a sign of dysfunction in Foxborough and that's the
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  Speaker 2: story of many.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you're not watching anything else if
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  Speaker 4: if that's all you really think is worth reporting on.
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  Speaker 3: I just very.
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  Speaker 2: Disappointed as usual with how the local media is covering
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  Speaker 2: this team.
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  Speaker 3: When not fair.
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  Speaker 7: Then when they do watch they say things like, you know,
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  Speaker 7: some of these interceptions may have been intentional, So you
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  Speaker 7: sort of said, stick to attendance.
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  Speaker 3: True story, that true story.
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  Speaker 6: I think one of the things though that that did
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  Speaker 6: stand out for me, just as far as attendants, as
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  Speaker 6: you know, just been the absence of Juju Smith Schuster
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  Speaker 6: and and Tae Kwon Thornton, who I think are the
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  Speaker 6: two elements you were really counting on to maybe add
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  Speaker 6: a new twist to the offense this year. We all
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  Speaker 6: know Bill O'Brien is here, and so far that seems
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  Speaker 6: like he's really got things under control. But I think
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  Speaker 6: when you look at the offense, you're really seeing a
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  Speaker 6: lot of throws to the tight ends. You're you're basically
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  Speaker 6: seeing the same wide receiver group from last year, minus
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  Speaker 6: Jacobe Myers and Nelson Agalore. So without those two receivers
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  Speaker 6: on the field, I just think it highlights a little
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  Speaker 6: bit to me of you other reports that you know
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  Speaker 6: that that Hopkins is going to come in over in
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  Speaker 6: the next two days, apparently sometime Wednesday Thursday. So I
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  Speaker 6: just think the need is there for depth. You haven't
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  Speaker 6: really seen much. You're seeing guys like Ed Lee, you know,
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  Speaker 6: get a lot of reps. Malie Cunningham was also a receiver.
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  Speaker 6: We mentioned he was a quarterback. So I just think
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  Speaker 6: for me that highlights depth issues. And I'd say the
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  Speaker 6: same thing about Trump Brown off.
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  Speaker 4: There's a hulking figure walking up the steps as we speak,
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  Speaker 4: number seventy seven up Trent Brown.
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  Speaker 7: I think Mike makes an excellent point about the receivers
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  Speaker 7: because I think there was there have been periods that
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  Speaker 7: we've seen that you just haven't seen enough guys out
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  Speaker 7: there to really to gauge it. And then all of
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  Speaker 7: a sudden you have a situation where Bailey's Appy's out
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  Speaker 7: there and you're like, oh, he's with Parker and he's
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  Speaker 7: with Bourn yesterday and you're like, oh, he's getting some
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  Speaker 7: higher level reps. But then you're like, well, those are
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  Speaker 7: really the only guys available. They don't have anybody else
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  Speaker 7: out here. So I think it's clearly the depth at
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  Speaker 7: that position is clearly an issue.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is an issue, and you know, it's disappointing
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  Speaker 4: for us because you know, we want to see the
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  Speaker 4: full squad out there, see what they look like together.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, of course we'll get plenty of time
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  Speaker 4: to do that at the end of August when training
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  Speaker 4: camp starts, but we want to see what Taekwon looks
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  Speaker 4: like out there, you know, in his second year, and
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  Speaker 4: so we're just gonna have to wait.
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  Speaker 7: It looks like, right, yeah, yeah, it'll take it'll take
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  Speaker 7: some time, but we'll get our we'll get our looks
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  Speaker 7: and go from there. But it will be interesting to
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  Speaker 7: see what happens with Hopkins over the next couple of days.
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  Speaker 7: I find it interesting that the players, you know, Mac
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  Speaker 7: Jones included, you know, they were sort of generic about it,
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  Speaker 7: but the fact that they were even acknowledging it, I
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  Speaker 7: thought was so interesting. We mentioned that Belichick, you know,
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  Speaker 7: it's sort of bristled at, you know, the timing of
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  Speaker 7: when the meeting was going to take place, but not
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  Speaker 7: necessarily that he wasn't talking about it at all. So yeah,
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  Speaker 7: it's clearly something that's that's in the works. We'll see
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  Speaker 7: how it unfolds and and and what what ends up happening.
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  Speaker 4: Weather today, it's about sixty nine degrees today, overcast, misty,
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  Speaker 4: but I think the rain's gonna hold off. We had
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  Speaker 4: down pours overnight, but I think we're gonna be good
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  Speaker 4: in terms of, uh.
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  Speaker 3: This practice.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm feeling, you know, a little missed coming through.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit comfortable though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: hopefully the rain will hold off.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little I'd say to you just to go
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  Speaker 6: back to Trent real quick. You know, is he gonna
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  Speaker 6: hop right in a left tackle? We've seen Calvin Anderson,
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  Speaker 6: Andrew Stuber there, is he Is he right into the
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  Speaker 6: mix or is you know, is there some element of
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  Speaker 6: him getting worked in? And I'm also I just said
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  Speaker 6: I gotta get him on the buyingnox because I'm curious,
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  Speaker 6: you know, just kind of how he's looking physically right there,
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  Speaker 6: that's the same.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he looks like huge.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, what's a great, huge, huge, huge mountain of
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  Speaker 3: a man.
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  Speaker 7: You can.
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  Speaker 3: Have no idea a hulking figure.
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  Speaker 4: Hulking figure, Yeah no, But so he's back, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure if there's any discipline, we will never hear
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, you you know, if you're.
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  Speaker 4: Taking a plane ride and you need to be at
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  Speaker 4: mandatory practice, you do it a day in advance in
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  Speaker 4: case there is something going on, you have time to
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  Speaker 4: adjust and catch a later flight. And so there's no
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  Speaker 4: excuses for that type of stuff. And and I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: he'll hear about it. You know, he's the only one
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  Speaker 4: that apparently had travel problems, so not good. But it'll
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  Speaker 4: they'll deal with it as a team. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's a million things that happen with every team every
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  Speaker 4: year that we never hear about, you know, uh, internal
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  Speaker 4: issues that have to be disciplined. You know, they have fun,
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  Speaker 4: you know, contributions that all the players make when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to that. So it's a story, but it's not like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a sign of dysfunction in Foxborough as it
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  Speaker 4: was reported. It's just just bothered me.
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  Speaker 6: I'd say, two Fred, we could highlight you know, yesterday
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  Speaker 6: during the show, we noticed James Robinson wasn't here and Evan.
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  Speaker 5: Evan said, you know, I think you might you might
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  Speaker 5: have lost it.
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  Speaker 6: The team did officially release James Robinson, so I know
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot of speculation about injury issues and you know,
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  Speaker 6: maybe still lingering things from the torn achilles that.
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  Speaker 5: He had two years ago. But kind of an interesting move.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if it necessarily shines a positive light
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  Speaker 6: on Pierre Strong and Kevin Harrison what they've done this spring,
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  Speaker 6: but it certainly is, you know, one less body for
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  Speaker 6: them to have to overcome to to get some playing
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  Speaker 6: time and some carries.
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  Speaker 4: So for the next five minutes or so, we have
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  Speaker 4: to turn our cameras in wards. Those are team rules.
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  Speaker 4: There's certain portions of practice we're not allowed to have
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  Speaker 4: cameras on. So you'll be looking at us for a
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  Speaker 4: few minutes until we can turn the cameras back around,
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  Speaker 4: and then probably about eleven fifty eleven fifty five or so,
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  Speaker 4: we'll have to turn the cameras off on the field
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  Speaker 4: for the rest of the show. But we'll we'll stay
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  Speaker 4: here throughout practice telling you everything that we see, kind
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  Speaker 4: of give you as much description as we can. We're
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  Speaker 4: not allowed to, like, you know, if there's trick plays
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  Speaker 4: and things like that. We're not supposed to report on that,
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  Speaker 4: but we can tell you who's out there, who's had
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  Speaker 4: a good play, who's lining up against who on defense
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  Speaker 4: and offense, that kind of thing, all fair game.
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  Speaker 2: What Mac is doing, Paul. I know, Paul, you like
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  Speaker 2: to keep stats during OTAs you know.
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  Speaker 3: So only join the quote competitive portion, so right right?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, zero for zero, so I at zero for zero, Yes,
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  Speaker 7: the competitive portion of practice.
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  Speaker 4: Like yesterday, it's just shorts and helmets today in their practice, jerseys,
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  Speaker 4: no shells, no pads.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And I do want to talk about that Robinson thing
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  Speaker 7: because I agree with with with Mike, and I know
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  Speaker 7: Evan you Evan just joined us here after being at
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  Speaker 7: Old Belichick's press conference, and Evan made the point yesterday
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  Speaker 7: that he felt like maybe they didn't really see a
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  Speaker 7: lot of explosiveness and you know that burst from Robinson,
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  Speaker 7: maybe he was still looking for it. And I agreed,
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  Speaker 7: and obviously the Patriots agreed. But but I do think Mike,
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  Speaker 7: you you said, I'm not sure, you know if it
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  Speaker 7: means something good.
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  Speaker 5: I think it does.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's a positive sign, you know, for the
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  Speaker 7: two second year backs as well as Ty Montgomery being
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  Speaker 7: out there. We've seen Montgomery's versatility. He's been working a
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  Speaker 7: lot a receiver because of the depth issues that we
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  Speaker 7: talked about yesterday earlier in the show, Mike, yep. But
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  Speaker 7: I do think it's it shines a positive light on
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  Speaker 7: Kevin Harris, and we talked about him a little bit yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: He was noticeable at times again and Pierre Strong. I
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  Speaker 7: think those two guys they have to have some comfort
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  Speaker 7: level with them. It could be, you know that they're
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  Speaker 7: gonna sign Dalvin Cook, Yeah right.
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  Speaker 4: But it could be though, so that you know, after
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  Speaker 4: that Achilles and being out that maybe he just doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have the bursts that he once did. And they decided
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  Speaker 4: to move on in part because Paul, as you said,
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  Speaker 4: they're comfortable with what they have and it's not worth
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  Speaker 4: using up the roster spot for a question mark, you know.
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  Speaker 7: Right, And like like Kevin said, I just didn't see
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  Speaker 7: like the explosiveness, But that doesn't mean that he couldn't
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  Speaker 7: have been, you know, sort of.
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  Speaker 5: A viable backup to fill in.
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  Speaker 7: So I think that they felt strongly enough about what
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  Speaker 7: they had that they didn't have to wait to see
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  Speaker 7: if any of that burst.
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  Speaker 3: Return, right, What do you think, Evan, Yeah, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily see it with him in the practices that we
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  Speaker 3: saw in terms of just that top gear, that explosiveness
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  Speaker 3: being there. And this is why you drafted those guys
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  Speaker 3: last year. It was for this exact reason. You knew
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  Speaker 3: that Damien Harris was in a contract year. The Patriots deuce.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about this before, they kind of recycle backs
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  Speaker 3: after four years. You know you're on your rookie deal.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to pay very many of these guys.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if they're gonna pay Remandra In
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years, we'll see. And at that point
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  Speaker 3: you'd really turn it over to the next group, which
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  Speaker 3: was that twenty twenty two draft class, and you just
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  Speaker 3: look at all these running backs around the league. Not
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  Speaker 3: to like lament about who they didn't pick or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: but so many guys contribute that are Day three picks
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  Speaker 3: at running back. I mean, obviously Pacheco is the big
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  Speaker 3: one in Kansas City, but just in general, every year
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  Speaker 3: there seems to be some guy. And James Robinson was
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  Speaker 3: an undrafted guy, made the APR Rookie team and the
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  Speaker 3: third round pick. That third round but we're talking late.
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  Speaker 5: Evan was important before, say but check o yea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we're talking about guys that are drafted
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  Speaker 3: late and discontribute just because blocking is really what you're
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  Speaker 3: looking at. If you if you can block it up
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  Speaker 3: and the running back you know, picks the right hole
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  Speaker 3: to go through and hits it hard, then you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be fine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: One other thing fred I wanted to bring up that
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  Speaker 6: I just thought was, it's just an interesting thing. Yesterday
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  Speaker 6: it was just when they really started to work on
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  Speaker 6: the mobile quarterback stuff, and you know, Malie Cunningham was
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  Speaker 6: a quarterback. It's something that we talked about where, you know,
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: this could be just a guy that they bring in
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: for the practice squad to give them looks. No kind
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: of speculation on our part, but I don't think that
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: there's any secret how much the Patriots struggled against mobile quarterbacks.
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: You know, offenses that specifically are designed to put the
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: ball in the quarterback's hands, to put defenses in bins,
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: and a lot of times last year they just they
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: couldn't get their head around how to stop Lamar Jackson
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: justin fields.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: And it's been an ongoing problem.
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: So just to be in day one and mini camp
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: and to see them put Malie cunning Cam in that
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: role and they're just kind of in their base three
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: four front and they're working on those run fits. I
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: think that that's, you know, maybe just a sign that acknowledging, yes,
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: we have to we have to work on this. This
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: has been a problem for us. And we all know
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: week one you got Jalen Hurts coming here. So just
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: for me, I thought that was just one of the
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: more interesting things of Hey, this is something we know
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: they need to do, and right here we are, day
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: one mini camp, they're doing it.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Right now that we're doing eleven and eleven walk through.
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: Right and it's not Trent Brown at left tackle. It's
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: still Calvin Anderson. So to answer your question, Mike, Trent
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: Brown standing in the back without his helmet on, so
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: not just getting thrown right back in there as it
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: looks like the sun trying to peek out a little
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: bit here.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But in terms of the situation.
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: That Mike just talked about with the running quarterbacks, I
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: just wanted to add Malie Cunningham was one of the
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: rookies who spoke yesterday after practice. A couple of interesting
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: things I thought. He divulged Number one, the Patriots were
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: the only team in the pre draft process that worked
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: him out as a wide receiver, so that that I
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: found interesting that no one else had had had done that.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: And he also he said that he has never run
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: a route in his life, so he is literally working
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: from absolute scratch.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: The reason he said he chose the Patriots with that
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: was because he felt like with the Julian Edelman story
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: in the culture here, they obviously understood that transition from
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: from quarterback college quarterback to NFL wide receiver. He said
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: something that I thought was kind of funny, said, you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: I have I have more athleticism than those guys, so
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: I feel like I can do it. Yeah, it's like
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: doing Them's a pretty good athlete. But you know, I
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: did think that he he sounded like he's really working
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: hard at trying to make that transition.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: He says he does all the meetings with.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: The receivers, not with the quarterbacks, so any quarterback reps
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: he gets is generally at the end of practice.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I talked to Mapu about it yesterday too, about
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: that part of practice and doing those drills, and I
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: thought what he said was interesting that in college he
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: said he felt like he had to do everything right,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: he had to be everywhere and do everything, and here
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: he feels like it's, you know, old Patriots cliche, it's
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: just do your job, and he can really zone in
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: on just what his responsibility is on a given play
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: because he doesn't have to take over like he had
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: to in college. So I think some of the things
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that we're seeing from him early on or because at
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Sacramento State he was it like he was their best
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: player on defense and if he didn't make the tackle,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: then sometimes the tackle didn't get made, so he had
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: to sort of take over the game a lot of
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: the time. And now he's really had a more simplified
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: or a more stream lined approach and he's been able
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to take off. And I think that that bodes well
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: that he's kind of understanding his one eleventh in the defense,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: if you will, and we'll see where it goes from there.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Are you guys ready to chat a little attendance, because
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: I think I'm I think I'm pretty square on on.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Everything right with one exist make it The story No
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Kid Go Ahead started.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Just thirty four Quandary Mosley's when I haven't quite seen him,
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: not sure, but otherwise it's the same group I got.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Juju is not here, Taekwon Booty and when you Lawrence guy,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: and that's it. I think in Quandary and Quandary, I'm
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: not sure though.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: I just I haven't done a full search.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: For good old Quandary mostly, but seems with the return
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: of Trent Brown, it seems like pretty much the same, uh,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: the same cruis yesterday.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Any notable visitors today and yesterday we had quite a few.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: There's an event going on down there. I'm not sure
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: who I know.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: We've got about two hundred corporate sponsors in premium seed
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: people visiting PRA just today, so it's it's almost like
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: a training camp with the amount of people down below us.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: Does seem like they got table set up and food, oh,
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: the whole thing. Yeah, well, hopefully they got something to
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: see here as we get through the initial warm ups.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, so like everybody wants to point out, like, oh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez, he's right in there with the.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Ones, I mean, not in this warm up for whatever
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: it's worth.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Like he's over on kind of the other field. So
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: I just you got to caution a little bit of
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: this U should usage.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: And it's it's you know, oh, he's just gonna be
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: there love cornerbacks starting just mark it down.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe, But I do also think that there's a little
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: bit of he's got to earn it. R oh yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: not gonna just hand it to him on his silver platters.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: So with them, I always am wary of the fact
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: that they they might put him with the twos just
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: to be like, hey, you know, first round pick, you're
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: not You're not all that just yet, you know, go
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: go out there and and and show it to us first,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: so we'll see. I I've still been with waiting for
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: that Christian Gonzalez moment. We've only seen four practice. I
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: know he's only been out out of a couple of them,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: so I'm not trying to look too much into it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: But I'm still waiting for in a team drill, not
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: just catching one handed passes in you know, going through
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: the positional drills, but in an actual team drill, making
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: a play on a football. He did have one against
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: DeVante Parker had some tight coverage on him yesterday, so
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's ye bad. I just think that
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: he hasn't had that signature.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I wrote yesterday, Evan, I wrote a
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: little bit about the rookies that that spoke yesterday, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, I know you'll agree with me, but I mean,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: I feel like Mapu has kind of been the one
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: that's just kind of given me some excitement just with
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: how many different spots he's been playing.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: You know, he just he does seem very involved with
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: that top group in and out.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: You know, there are rotating guys, but it's just it
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: definitely seems like there's something there with him. Nothing against
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Keon White and Gonzales, but I think with those guys,
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: we're still kind of waiting for that, for that moment
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: with both of them where it was, and I think
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: we'll get it with key On White once one on
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: one start and then you know, and then he's gonna
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: he's gonna go against some poor backup offensive lineman and
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: probably just bowl him over. So you know, but the
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: same thing with Gonzales, where's that Wow, how did he
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: come down with that interception?
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: That kind of thing. That's that's what I think we're
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: all waiting to see with him.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: See uh Mac Brown with Bill O'Brien right now, as
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Mac does as stretching.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: Mac Brown's here, Mac, I mean Mac Jones.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, Mac Brown. Wow, So you see the teams are stretching.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: The players are stretching right now, which sorely Mac Jones. H.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the calistenic portion of the practice is always the
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: most riveting.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Freddy, Well, yeah, that's when the players get to be themselves.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the large media contingent unleashed.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Fred We miss Cam Newton with his dances ringers part
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of the.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: They missed a few team drills they you know, missed
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: a few few stats there. We'll have to give it
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: to him afterwards. Yeah. Probably.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure who that is we're trying to.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I never know who shows up with these things.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Someone came up the stairs and I saw Stacy stop
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: and go over and say hello and shake his hand,
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: and I figured he must be somebody, but I'm not
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: sure who it was.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like the Penn State guys are here again.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, James Franklin that I think that was confirmed by Yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: pr that that's who that was.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: I don't get a shot at Josh Ucci right now.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: He's a Nature's calling over on the sideline.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: R I hear will be going over to Germany with
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the nfl PA this summer.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Yea lay a little groundwork, maybe, uh see what the
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: fields like, see if he can get some sacks over there.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick with Joe Judge.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Right now, I was evan, I was almost gonna say,
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: and I don't think it is Greg Schiano. But standing
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: down there at the far end zone, there's two guys
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: in gray shirts and I don't know if the guy
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: on the right.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: These aren't the greatest binoculars. But at almost for a
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: second thought looked like, I don't think it's him.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Well wait out now in the end zone. Yeah, much
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: too young, Yeah, much too young.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it seemed like a shot.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Well you know, he's too young, much too it shape,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: But yeah, it does seem like it's turning into.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: A a little bit of sun's peaking any day. I
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: don't know my glasses sunny day. The beaches are full,
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: you know, Amity.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: We didn't get an appearance from any of the crafts yesterday.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I did not see.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, usually did not see. Robert usually comes out
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: at some point. Yeah, those mini camp practices. Maybe today
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: with all the guests there. Bill Belichick's press conference this
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: morning we get.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: One of our listeners said that he he thought that
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Bill was in a very good mood and he's wondering.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: Why Evan kid a comment as being the only member
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: of the UH that was actually in attendance.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Last last couple of times we've spoken to him, he's
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: been a little chummy, chummy, nice, nice smile at the
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: podium given given the cameras and the videographers that that
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: smiling shot, you know right when he's the podium, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: it almost seems a little a little rehearsed, a little planned.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Did any uh what was the theme today? Any any questions? Uh? Yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: you know, I think the bigger things was, uh Jabriel Peppers.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of praise from Bill uh
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: for Jail Peppers, just saying that he's, you know, becoming
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: more of a leader of that defense versus a guy
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: that's just trying to figure out where the heck he
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: should be on a given play, which I think is
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: a good sign.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Some more positive reviews for for Time Montgomery. Uh, certainly
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Bill Murray a little oversation about and you know, him
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: playing a little bit of more offensive line things like that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I think in general, though, the feel was a was
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: he's pretty lax this time of year. You know. I
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: think during in season press conferences when we get him,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: there's so much going on or so, you know, he's
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: got so much work to do still in the middle
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: of the week, and I think that's that's sort of
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: why you get some of the gloomy days with him.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: But now, I mean, there's really no no pressure with
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: middle and things like that. I'd like to hear it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Mike Rease tweeted out a quote when Andrew Callahan asked
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: him about Pepper's I've seen particular growth in Mike the
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: quote Mike has this oh yeah, oh my god.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, totally is a much different player.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I gotta hear that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: One from myself.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I was definitely gushing a little bit about Jabrill Peppers,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: and I think that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: He's gush about him, to be honest, He's a guy that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: That's important that Devin's gone. I mean, he's definitely important
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: for the defense and we'll see what he brings. But
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: this time of year, I will say, if you ask
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Bill about a singular play, not a rookie. If you
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: ask him about a rookie, it's a general everybody. He
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: groups it all together as everybody. But if you ask
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: him about a veteran player specifically, he's gonna gush like
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard him get up there
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: and be like, actually, I don't know, you're right, not
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: a not a great not a great start for player.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: You know, I would actually fall off.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: My chair if I heard something like that, right, So
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I try not to, you know, not to take any
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: shots to anybody asking the questions, but it's just you're
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: gonna get the same kind of rehearse.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: But you know, the whole thing about his mood, like
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: even yesterday's answer to the question is everybody there, you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: it's like, I don't think so Like in the past,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: he'd like, I don't take it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: So I almost fell off my chair. When he confirms
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: that they're in talks with DeAndre Hopkins, I think that that,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: out of anything that he said over the last two days,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: the fact that he got up there and confirmed that
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that Hopkins and him have been in touch is floored me.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Like that that's one that oh, you know, he could
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: easily fall back on. We don't comment on reports, we
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: don't talk about we don't discuss rumors like that sort
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: of thing. But he came out right and said, yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: we've we've been talking to Hopkins. We're trying to work
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: out I read it as the logistics of the visit
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and you know, when he's gonna fly in exactly and
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: and sort of planted around this planet around Hopkins's schedule,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: you know, that sort of thing. And it was I
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: was surprised, Yeah, it was.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: It was surprising. He usually never comments on that. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: uh now it's been reported to be a two day
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: visit tomorrow and Thursday, but we'll see about that. Yeah,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: it's it's interesting. I mean, I don't know, you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: if it's a change of heart or you know, whatever.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: But you know, he does seem to be a little
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: bit more open last couple of days.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Do you think he really didn't know?
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, do you think that he's just above the
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: fray and that's like a scheduling thing, and you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I just I do wonder.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of us just assume that he
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: knows everything.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's the I don't want I don't think
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: at the time yesterday, I actually take it at face value. Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure that they knew yesterday exactly when he
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: was going.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: To be right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: They didn't know he was gonna leave Tennessee. Maybe he
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: didn't leave, you know, and he does not make those arrangements,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. Uh so's they're better than good Nancy.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it. Got a nice, nice chuckle out
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: of him when when somebody said, oh, well, whytn't you
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: give us give us Nancy, you know, get getting miss
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Nancy available and we can talk to her about the
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the travel agent stuff. And he gave it to chuckle.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, he did. I thought Scott holy had
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: some nice things. He said.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Nancy Meyer was like family to him on the Patsman
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: the path.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, nice. I mean she's an exceptional woman, some
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Some of Bill's willingness to mention that he is talking
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: to Hopkins might be the player himself, you know, like
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: certain players need to be treated certain ways, and right
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: now Hopkins is you know, uh, he wants to be
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: courted right now. And if Bill like just you know, categorically,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: or didn't deny it, but just wouldn't answer it, maybe
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: he's afraid Hopkins would look at that as sort of
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: a slight you know. So maybe Bill takes that into
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: consideration who the player is.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, what's the harm in me saying that, yeah,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: we are talking to show that we're interested.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: Especially when you're hoping that Bill Belichick is a bit
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: of a draw for Hopkins for him to kind of
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: like play Mickey the Dunce and I don't.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Know, but just to at least confirm you we're interested
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: in it. Of course we are. He's a good player and.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: He's not on another team. I think a lot of
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: times Bill, you know, goes behind that stuff of you
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: know what, Like.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: He generally says, we're not going to talk about someone
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: not on my roster. It's not even on someone else's roster.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: He would never talk about a guy who's actually under
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: contract for somebody else.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Right, right, We're not going to talk about players not
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: on the team, you know. So we'll see, we'll see
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: what happens with that. I don't know, is your guys
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: percentage of him coming here changed in the last week.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: No, I still feel I still feel pretty good about it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Like it could could happen.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, and like I said at the top of
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: the show, just you know, without Thornton and without Juju,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, as much as I want to tell you,
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: because Sicky and Bill O'Brien are going to make a
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: difference from last year.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Like you need more than that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You need more than just to run it back with.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: You know, with Parker and Kendrick Bourne and you know, hey,
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: we're gonna I mean, I assume you're gonna get Juju
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: back at some point, but I just don't like having
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: him not out here, like and anytime a guy's not
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: out here and he's not healthy enough to be.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Picking this up and to get involved in the beginning it, Okay,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: raises a red flax.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: What we're seeing to the right, the sprints a little bit, yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: They have, you know, a handful of cones that they're
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: going in and out, and then they have these the
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: small little hurdles that they're going with the high knees
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: like Evan just said. And it's all the receivers, defensive backs,
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: you know, like skilled guys.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never seen this type of running on the
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: field now. I mean, you know, we see it on
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: the hills after the practice, but I don't remember seeing
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: things like this, uh, during practice.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We don't have our cameras on it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: But that's okay, yeah, well we got the offensive line
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: down on the other end, here we go throwing bags.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: You see Mac right now? Yeah, get those knees up.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: And then it looks like the defensive linemen are working
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: with some medicine balls there, uh getting down. It looks
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: like like exploding kind of similar stuff for the uh yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: for the for the offensive line, which this looks like.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: I thought this was a little I saw them doing
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: this yesterday. I thought it was a little different too,
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: the way they were starting that drill.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe they get this from Alabama Phillibrian bringing some new.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Free practice warm ups. Looks heavy those balls, Yeah, heavy balls.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good for it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: So what do we think? What do we think today?
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: We think for the tempo, what are we predicting a
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: little bit, a little bit higher temple than yesterday?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I would think so. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, yeah, I
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: think that today.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Is it going to be high enough to cancel tomorrow work.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Today and then give them tomorrow mines. I think that
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: you guys are onto something. Yeah. I think they come
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: out here full as full tilt as you can be
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: for this time of year, run a bunch of plays
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and then see where they're at. At the end of
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: the day and maybe call.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: It well at that point. And again the rules for
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: mini campus you get twenty four hours. You can split
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: it up any way you want. So, I know the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: players were in at six o'clock yesterday and I think
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: they left it around six, so that's twelve So they
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: only have twelve hours left. So depending on what they
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: do today, that's all they have left for Wednesday.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I don't know what time they had to
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: be here, like everybody had to be here, so you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: it could be one of those semantic Maybe it was ten,
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: you know, and they'll get ten today and then maybe
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: do something team oriented tomorrow, something like that. Yeah, you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: some kind of team bonding, you know, go to a movie,
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: go to the zoo. This is a spider Man.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Now we're gonna run around, ring around the road.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe one attend him to our attendance. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: think we fell victim to the Greg Bedard fifty one trap.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I have only seen Ronnie Perkins.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, because I haven't.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: I I circled Keon White when you said that he
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: was here. Now, I was taking you just eric to me.
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: We got diddarded myself.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: So are we sure to Kean, I'm sure that that's Ronnie.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: I saw Ronnie. I definitely saw Ronnie Perkins. I did
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: not see Keon White.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I hadn't. I hadn't circled him until Mike told me, Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: that's that's definitely.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: So now they're they're the defensive backs are running a
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: semicircle around cones. Again, this is new and the arc.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if this is also used
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: in training kid.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's interesting when they when he's kind of little, uh,
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: you know, while it's running in a semi circle make
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: you faster.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Well that's a good point, but you like, it's like
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: you're on the bend of the track the bank, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: and you have got to get the inside way. The
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: way you be the way you are fast, is to
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: be fast.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Like I always tell you just you want to be fast,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: and they always complain that we don't get guess we
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: have matc Growe on today. You want to be fast.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: You've got to be fast.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Somebody when I was trying to be fast, was like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: think fast. I'm like that that doesn't work. It doesn't work.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I was really thinking fast, but fast not moving.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I'm just slow.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: That's like a John Wooden, right, yeah, think fast, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: don't rush.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Not going uh but yeah, so that is a little
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: bit of a disappointment there.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: If Keon White is in fact not here, it's not
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: called that yet a little bit.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: Maybe we'll see because he did talk yesterday, so you
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: wonder and he yeah, he was fine, thought he was yeah, yeah,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: I thought he was pretty impressive, to be honest with you.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Now we get off that's going around the cones, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I guess the idea here is to try to keep
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: it as tight to the cone as possible. But it's again,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I'm you always see new things, and this is the
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: new thing added to the practice.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: We didn't even see this yesterday, right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: I don't remember seeing the semi circle yesterday. I noticed
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: it when it came out that the cones were all
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: in formation over there, and I don't remember them seeing
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: them do this yesterday.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: It'll be noted in blocks.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: But you know, you joke Kardona forty nine.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: I see I did get Cardona.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: You could you can tell what creatures of habit we are.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: You know, you see a little running thing and we're
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: all like, oh my god, we've never seen this before
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: look at the players run right.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: But I do think it is interesting that this is,
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: you know, probably something that falls under Moses Cabrera and
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: you know each off season, I mean stretching, warming up, that's,
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of straightforward.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: I even thought yesterday and I think we were off
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: air by the time. The way they cooled down after
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: practice was a little different. The team created a huge
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: circle and there were a handful of players inside.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I think Judeon.
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: There was I think five or six players inside when
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: they sort of cooled down with some stretching.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now I can't find my numbers, where are they?
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: I think it was Riley Reef, Carl Davis, Calvin Munson,
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: Matthew Judon, Josh Uce and Christian Barmore with a six
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: that were inside the circle. I don't know if there's
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: any significance to the fact that those were the guys
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: in there, or if it just worked out that way,
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: But I hadn't seen them sort of cool down like
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: that in the past. I don't know if you guys
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: saw that or I thought it looked any different than
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: any other time. But a lot of times we've seen
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: them by position group sometimes they'll just they'll meet as
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: positions and sort of stretch before they leave the field.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: I thought that was a little different as a full team.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: It's good. It's good this time of year.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some bonding, make friends, all right. So the running
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: portion of practice seems to be over, at least for the.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Semi circle Cones.
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: But I also don't remember like a little interstitial pier.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Usually you stretch, they blow the whistle, and we're off
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: to practice. It's not like, all right, now we're going
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: to do some you know, running is there.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And there's still sprinting, defense, sprinting.
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: This is the warm up portion of practice. They've done
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: stuff like this. They usually go through the positional drills.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: Which is this conditioning really more than anything else.
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: I do wonder if if it's one of those things
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: like we I think we mentioned last week of trying
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: to get a little bit more conditioning at the front
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: of practice.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I know that that's a trend in some places as well.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Fred said, I think they're always trying
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: to find different ways to keep it fresh.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, should the players enjoy They rather running a half
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: circle around Cones than.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Over on that hill.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: But get the guys moving but you know you're not
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: going to get in shape in three days, so right,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: the message will be, Okay, you got to keep doing
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: this when you go home, you know, because when that
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: come for training, can that condition run is waiting for it,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna take that conditioning run, you better be ready.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they're still they're still running. They're running. See
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the quarterback's warming up right now.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say too.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like Trump Brown is heavily involved in
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: this practice, and from what I've seen, he is pretty
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: low key.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure I've even seen him.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Take part in it in one of these kind of
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: warm up jewels yet. But for the most part, he's
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: got helmet up on his head and he's kind of watching.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: So take that for what it's worth. Okay, but yeah,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: definitely not seeing key on white here as things get
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: a little bit more broken up.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: So Trump Brown is just an interesting cat. I never
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I can never get a read on him, so I
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: almost just don't read him because he's just Yeah, he's
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: just an interesting cat.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: He's a big inter stink cat, like a main coon can.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Jungle cat. Yeah, interesting big cat.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the whole thing with him is
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: his desire. You know, how much does he want? How
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: much does he really love football? And I think it
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: goes in and out. I just I think the best
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: he was was when Scarnekia was here. You know, he
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: got the most out of him. And Dante's the kind
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: of guy you want to play for him. You don't
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: want to disappoint him. And uh, you know, we'll see
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: if Adrian Clem can have that type of gravitas with
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: with the alignment, but it's doubtful.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: I think if I had to make a bet right
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: now whether or not Trump Brown will be on the
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: field week one, I would probably.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Say no, really really, I mean that's just the vibe,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: don't you feel like though?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: So like a lot of guys, especially in that position group,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: were not on board with things, and he was certainly,
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: you know, among one of them who was up and
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: down all year and inconsistent. And you know, I just
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: wonder at what point, I mean, Paul has been beating
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: this drum ever since Truck Brown came back full times.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: So but I don't know, I just started to read
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: the tee.
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: We's how under guy an unreliable player? Yeah, And I
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: know that, like, I think the position is very unsettled.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: I I.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I know, So is that Trent Brown walking down the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: hill right now.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Doing this stuffs?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Somebody is walking down the hill, Yes, it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Is, so he is.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: He's dealing with something.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well, he's probably not in shape to play. Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he hasn't done anything all spring.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: The reason why I looked that direction was because I
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: saw Belichick talking with Matt grow and both of them
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden turned toward that direction. So I
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: wanted to see what they were looking at, and they
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: were looking at Trent Brown, and that's what like.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: And look, I don't I'm not going to tell you
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: that that Calvin Anderson or Riley Reef, or or you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: even Connor McDermott who came in last year, are you
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: know the long.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Term answers and what you need.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: But I think at a certain point this year you
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: might just be looking for guys that want to feel,
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: that really want to be here, that are put in
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: the effort, that are consistently here. And maybe it's not
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: all perfect, but you know every snap what you're going
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: to get from Riley Reef, who you know has been.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: To me, Calvin Anderson is the interesting guy because that's
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, fifty year. He hasn't played a ton, but
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: he does have some experience. Might he be a guy
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: that really benefits from being, you know, thrust into a
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: bigger role than he's had in the past. And if
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: he can take one of the spots and then you
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: can patch it together with the veterans on the other side,
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: with Reef and McDermott, and that that could make Trent
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: Brown expendable.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: I think it's a bold take that you have, but
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's outrageous by any means.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: I think it's close to fifty to fifty right now.
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: And I just think that in and of itself is
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: kind of the story of I just at what point
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: do you say, you know, what.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: Huge guy.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: When he's on, he is dominating, But we just don't
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: know when we're going to get it. And what we
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: need right now is some reliability.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: We need reliability and we also need chemistry. We need
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: a team that wants to play with each other, trusts
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: each other. You know, you can't have one of your
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: main stays in the line like, oh, maybe I'll play
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: this week, maybe I want it's just not a good look.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I mean you go back to a couple
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: of years ago and they started Ted Carris over Mike
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: on winning and I think that everybody was like, Michael,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: who is one of our best young players, what are
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: we doing? And I think the big reason why it
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: was just that cohesion of the five man unit, which
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: one had the most reps together, which one had the
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: best chemistry, who was on the string together? And they
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: settled on the fact that that Ted Carris was just
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit more glued into what they were doing
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: at that time. And I just the tackle thing has
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: always been a worry for me. And if Trent Brown
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: is now on the fence or not as locked in
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: as you need him to be, then it becomes an
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: even bigger concern. I think Bill O'Brien is the type
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: of coordinator that has the chops to coach around poor tackles.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: But it's just not really something that you want to
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: have to do right.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: Well, especially when you've got to get into third and long,
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: or you know, if they still want to really try
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: to push the ball down the field, you've got to
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: have some trust and you know what point do you
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: look at Calvin Anderson and say, hey, here's a guy
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: that we initially had in here, that we showed interest
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: in out of the draft went you know, played last
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: year in Denver.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: He's been here all off season for us.
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: He's been our you know, basically our every day left
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: tackle right through ots in mini camp.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: And at what point he's single him out? He's he's
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: the one sort of unknown out of those three.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: And I don't I don't.
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: Rule out the possibility that, you know, he's ready to
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: take that step and be a full time starter. I mean,
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: I it's hard. I mean, you know people are going
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: to say, well, how does he look?
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: I have no idea.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: You know, the offensive lineman, right, you know, you can't
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: tell what they're doing in a lot of times, you
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: can't tell what they're doing when in pads and training camp. Yep,
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: but you certainly have no gauge whatsoever on a mini
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: camp with no pads, and you know, see likely what
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: the lineups look like when when the pads come on
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: in another month or so.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I go back to Dante and you know, the best
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: offensive line coach this franchise has ever had, now, Hall
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: of famer, you know, he said, Continuity is huge for
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: offensive line. You need you that's what you really ideally want.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: It's the same five guys out there all the time.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: That's yeah.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: I mean that's why usually I kind of give a
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: little bit of a pass to some inconsistencies on the
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: offensive line the first month of the season. I just
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: I think there's always, you know, a game where things
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: just don't look in sync. But what you always loved
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: and respected about Dante's guys, you knew they were going
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: to get it at some point. And I don't know
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: if we have that confidence yet, but I'm certainly excited
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: to have Adrian clem an experienced offensive line and played
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: in the NFL as an offensive lineman.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, just taking total control of things
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: down there.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: And I mean, as I kind of snarkily say yesterday,
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: it's nice not to see, you know, coach having to
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: like run back and forth between coach and the offensive line.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: You see them down there doing what they usually do,
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: working on on everything.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: That they do.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: So it's uh, we'll see.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just again, though I feel like talk
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: about the wide receiver depth issues, you talk about the
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: offensive line, just a lot being put on the new
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: coaches who have come in to really get things in
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: order and make them work.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Chris weher A t I a n wants to know
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: why Deuce is dressed like Maddy p.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I got that Jude on red sleeves.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I got jacket and I got
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the hot jacket.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: You know, trying to dress the part here.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Paul's trying to capture the spirit of
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: the thing, right. That's all adding on Calvin Anderson too,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: by far their most athletic tackle that they have on
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: the roster. It's one of the things that put him
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: on the NFL radar is his pro day at Texas
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: when he came out. So he's by far their best
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: athlete and you can see that on film. So that
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: that does project nicely to a left tackle spot if
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: he can play it consistently. But I think that that's
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: one thing that really does stand out with him is
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: his initial explosiveness out of his stances range, his ability
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: to block on the move. Like, I think he's got
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: some of that athleticism. But if that tackle spot ends
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: up being a big issue for them, and we're gonna
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: go back to the draft, I mean, we and I'm
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: not necessarily saying the first round, just any of the rounds.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna go back to the draft and say,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, could one of these tackles have have stepped
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: in and played right away that maybe they could have
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: had in the second or third round even or whoever.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, Anthony writes, and if you were a bill,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: would you let Brown go and save the cap space,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: maybe sign Flucker who was in for a workout yesterday
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: for a year and use the savings on the cap
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: cash to try to lure Hopkins to sign this week.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Brown isn't reliable, and if he isn't happy, what incentive
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: does he have to stay.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: In shape enough to play and stay healthy.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're a little too far. I know.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: I look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna jump on
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: and stay cut up. I really don't care about like
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: opening cap space with him or anything like. That's fine,
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: that's not if it works out. But I mean really,
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: for me, it's it's just is he engaged? Is he
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: like like if I was the coach, I know at
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: some points he's gonna look good. I mean, he looks
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: great walking onto the field, like you can't help.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: But be you know, intrigued by his size, and well,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: it's like, how much time are we going to an
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: effort we're going to put into getting this guy out.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Right, he's going to leave the station?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Is he on board or is he kind of outured?
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: I would be concerned with. I mean, d J Fluker,
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: I think is an interesting story just because of what's
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: going on. But I mean it hard to make the
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: case for him being a reliable option at this point
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: and he's been out of the league.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just such a there's such a talent glut
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: right now, I guess is the word for that position
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: in the whole league, and these guys that can play,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: that can start for seventeen games. Teams don't just give
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: those types of guys away because they're not enough of them.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: So well, the proper word would be drought, right, glut
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: is they have a lot too many?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Right? Thank you? Okay, thank you journalism.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: Words are hard, but one of the things and I
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: sort of take away, you know, Mike, you were talking
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: about like sometimes the offensive line play is a little
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: spotty at the beginning of the season, and it's why
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: you because they don't have the cohesion, and I agree,
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: and then I'll take take it to something that Evan
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: talked about yesterday, well, like.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: It's also something that can be schemed around a little bit.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: And I think when you realize how many times you say, like, whoa,
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: you know, so and so is going to get killed
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: back there, you know, and then the teams figure it out,
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: Like I think Joe Burrow got sacked like six times
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: on opening Day against Pittsburgh last year, and everybody's like,
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: all that money they put into the offensive line, it
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: didn't work.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Well, they figure it out, you know, they figured out, they.
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: Improve, they scheme around it, and and for the most
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: part it's good enough. Yeah, I mean I understand, like
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: there are times where it's just so bad you can't win.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: You can't win with that, you know. But I think
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: for the most part, you figure it out and the
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: guys get better and they learn how to play.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like, if you have bad tax in
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: not to take another shot, but at with Matt Patricia
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: calling the plays and running the offense, then that's a
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: real concern. But I do think when you have a
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: guy like O'Brien who did coach around bad tackles at times,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: in Houston. I think you'll have the ability to figure
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: it out. I just you know, I was mentioning yesterday
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: like Miami a couple of years ago at TUA in
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: early early stages, and they just basically ran like a
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: smoke and mirrors, you know, college RPO style offense where
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: everything was in within five to six yards of the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. It felt like because they couldn't block it,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: that to hang out and push it down the field,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: and you just wonder, there's are a ton of ways
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: to get around it was.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'd much prefer not to have to figure it out
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: and open up everything and not have to.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah for a weakness.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: You want to have a great player at every position,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: but that's not realistic.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Well I'm not even saying great, but just competent. You know,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: where it's not a it's not a weakness, it's you know,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: guy can hold his own.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Now, if you got DeAndre Hopkins out here and you
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: have the receivers that they already have and guys are
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: getting open quickly, then maybe it's not as big of
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: an issue.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't really matter.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's a story that we have
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: to keep an eye on this whole left tackle right
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: tackle thing.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would say too, like it's just it's
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: it's that both spots are kind of uncertain, you know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: like if you have some uncertainty on one side, you
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: gotta have a guy chip and help the right tackle.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: Like I don't think that's a big deal, but I
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: just think not knowing what you have really on the
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: left side or the right side right now, that.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: It's it's complicated.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: It's not as easy to you know, help both tackles
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: if you're getting inconsistent play, which is I mean, I
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: think what we kind of saw a little bit last
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: year at times. So yeah, it's uh, it's definitely an
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: issue that I'll be very curious when we get to
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: training camp day one. You know, is Calvin Anderson still
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: out there or is you know, is Trent Brown kind
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: of working his way in?
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: Mike, you missed a little training camp preview that just
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: went on a little bit. There's a little red zone
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: work and there seven on seven and DeVante Parker doing
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: what DeVante Parker does. He went up up over John
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: Nothing Jones and you know, had a nice uh fifty
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: to fifty ball on a on a fade in the
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: back corner of the end zone from Mac. But we'll
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: get used to that because that's how we'll open training
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: camp and everybody will ask him, why are.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: You doing so much? They did drive the ball down
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: there and this I don't know how much the defense
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: is no, right, yeah, rightly, But they threw a couple
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: of you know, Kasiki caught one, Henry and and uh
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Parker on those kind of fades. Uh Kasiki and Henry's
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: was more from like in the slot, and I think
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: those we were talking about this yesterday, like what's Max's
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: best throws, like those touch throws where he can put
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: a little underneath it and and kind of just put
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: it in a spot for a guy he does throw
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: throw those pretty well.
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: It was perfect timing too, because then he had two
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: of those right after you had mentioned that, Evan yesterday
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: to each of the tight ends.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know Henry and Kasiki.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I like watching Kasiki run routes. I mean,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: he's he's really really smooth, and you see some of
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: that ability at the top of the route to you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: fake and and really burst out of the break and
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: they like that. And he he definitely moves like a receiver.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no doubt that.
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: It seems like they're maybe doing two minute drill, no huddle,
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: oh off the fingertips, nice little ears. Looked like Mapo
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: got maybe a little that could have been but that
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: but but that could have been one of those plays
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: where you're looking at for those those running backs. Looks
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: like he's building a little momentum that balls probably should
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: be caught.
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and that's you know, not an easy play.
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: I'm not trying to make it. I wouldn't say it
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: was a drop that should be embarrassing, but you know
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: it's a play that you know, James White obviously.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Makes that catch. That was Zappi throwing. Yeah, it was
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: a good throw too. Uh, you know, one more player too.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: I think we should maybe just like mentioned we've been
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: talking so much about Mapoo. It seems like mac Wilson's
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: definitely in this linebacker mixed rotation. And I mean it
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: wasn't great last year the Baltimore game. He I think
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: he struggled a lot when they were trying to have
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: him kind of spy lamar. But but it's it seems
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: like between Bentley to Viye, Mac Wilson those that's kind
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: of your as you used.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: To say, Paul, that interior trio. Three guys for two spots.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know how Mapu's going to fit into that,
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: but as far as the reps and stuff, it seems
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: like Mac Wilson's gonna be uh, it's going to be
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: part of this linebacker rotation.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Let's see Alex in Englewood, New Jersey wants to start
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: a GoFundMe for Paul to get binoculars.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Everybody using binocular thirteen dollars.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: I can't afford that.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of tuition to pay a lot
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: of bud light to buy a middle life.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I got, I got a lot.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I got a lot of responsibility from Yeah, it's still
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: going seven on seven here, Yeah yeah, Mac back in Yeah, but.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: Seeing a little Josh Bledsoe too at the safety spot.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: I haven't mentioned his name at all.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Pepper's I'm in the Star on Kasiki now born in
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: park are Out. I love this. The Gonzales with Jack
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Jones on the outside, I feel like that gives them
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: a ton of versatility. Yeah, ah and macus picks.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Jack Jones, he went down the sideline to
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: the tight end and Jack Jones cut over the middle, and.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I think it was intentional, yea, that it may have
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: been intentional. So Borne ran a vertical post and then
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Henry tried to wheel it and Jack Jones just came
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: off the post and jumped it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: I think that's Jack Jones's best trade.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: That's that was vintage Jack coming off and jumping.
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: I like him better when he does, like the interception
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: against Detroit last year, than him jumping every route on
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: the guy that he's covering, because I think that's a
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: very dangerous technique that he does. It worked against Screen Bay,
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: obviously in overtime it didn't work as well.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one reminded me of the pick that he
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: had against the Lions.
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: The Lions, absolutely that was his play of the season.
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: That was a great play that day.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: That was exactly the same type of combination. They tried
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: to flood it and he just he just read the quarterback.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Don't want to Kasiki.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's just it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: You know, this is it's kind of the offense we
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: will watch.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: Last year, with the exception of Kasicki, you know, right now,
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: it's it's all guys that were kind of around.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Ken going with the red tights today.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, underneath his he's wearing the required uniform.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you, tights. I got it, so we do. You
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: didn't get an eighties reference.
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: Don't explain that to me.
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: I spare you some talks about disrespect, talks about.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Like I'm some millennial.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: That reminds me.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I always used to tell my kid, when you're at
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: those showcase tournaments, always wear something colorful.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: So that's a great Scouts kidding, next level recruiting, call
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: that peacocking, you know, yeah, yeah, show up.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: We used to make fun of kids in high school,
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: like you try off for like these travel teams, like
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: you know, eighth grade, ninth grade, and kid would show
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: up with.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: His name on his back. Loser, loser.
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: Ye, friends, you got be more subtle, right, You just
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: need like a like a just something that's different from
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: the neon sleeve with the red tights keeps, I keep
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: noticing him, tights.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: What does you get those wonderful toys?
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Drops back, looks downfield, goes short, go short?
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: Is that Pier Pete Strong? Nice adjustment by Pierre Strong.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Pete Strong a little bit to buy and coverage. Yeah,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Patriots defense of the back end. They just they're in
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: like mid season, they're already spinning the dial. It's like
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: yesterday to hide the single high like buzz coverage things
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: like that. It's like, guys, it's it's June. Like the
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: offensive chance to I know, well, that's like the question.
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: It's like, I mean, I'm sure on one hand, the
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: offense enjoys having a challenge and having to decipher the
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: Patriots defense post snap. But at the same time, not
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: every defense does that, And you're trying to work on
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: your own stuff, and do you get too much in
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: your own head, you know, trying to adjust to what
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: they're doing, and is that screwing up what you're trying to.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: I remember there was one practice Paul was a training camp.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: This is back in the Brady days where Bellichi actually
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: yelled at the defense because they knew what the plays were.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: They were like jumping the plays because they knew what
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: was coming, and Belichick's like, knock it off.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I think that happens even now. I think it.
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: Listen, I didn't hear anybody say anything yesterday. Yeah, I
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: think it happened on the play that Kyle Duger picked
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: off the pass from Mac.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: I think Max's reaction to me told me that, come on, Kyle,
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: you know what we're doing. You know, like you don't
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: have to underpat the route.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we doing, Kyle, Kyle, come on, palms up,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: hair strong. A couple of catch this year and nice
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: angle right out of the backfield there, James James Robson
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: get cut. He's like, hey, time to shine. That throw
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: is just money. That dropped it in the buckets between
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: two guys.
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: He just turned around, turned around, just put his hands
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: kind of like on his side and the.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Ball and he even had to high point that he
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: did the Randy Moss thing too.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: He didn't react to.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: It until the ball was just dropped it right in
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: the bucket.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Very good.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: Somewhere.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Claire Cooper's getting excited every time we bring up Kasiki
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: those throws in the offense, like that they need to
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: feature that throw. That slot fade Mac through great slot
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: fades at Alabama too, Like that was him and Devonte
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Smith and John Metchi Like that's that's his butter right there.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: He can make that throw all day. Bread and butter,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: just his butter, just his butter.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: But it's like butter.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: It's like butter. No bread on that one. That was
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: like bread that one into two blue shirts. Yeah, so
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: a little news out a at a Buffalo Buffalos A
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Buffalo broke up with Stefon Diggs. Not at mandatory mini
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: camp ody function. Sean McDermott is mad about it. Press conference.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: He's already taking shots you can get.
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: But that's an issue. I'm sorry, that's an issue.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: He said that.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Sean, I hope it's an issue.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Sean McDermott said he's very concerned that Stefan Diggs is
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: for six months. Yeah, he has an issue. Yeah, we'll
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: take I think he's pissy at the quarterback.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: We'll take him. What, Well, We'll trade your Trent Brown
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: for Stefon Diggs straight up.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: No, I'm serious though. I actually think that there's some
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: tension there. I'm dead serious because I think he thinks
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: that Josh Allen played like like crap in that playoff game.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: And I think he he's been pouting for a while. Yeah,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I think he wants to go play with his brother.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: And what's he mad about?
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Money?
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Is it just money?
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: No, I think he's mad about his targets at oh
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: at various times.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: That's I'm not saying he's right. I'm just saying I
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: think he's I think he's been.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: As crazy as it sounds. I could see if it
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: was money that he was pissy about, but targets not.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's mad at I don't know if
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: it's necessarily targets. I think that he's mad that they
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: haven't won. Honestly, you know, but I.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Think he wasn't getting targeted.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Not coming to practice isn't gonna help that.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think he wants to. I don't think
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: he believes in it. Like I think he's starting to
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: have some doubt.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: I'm done.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I love it, love it, yeah, uh not enough good? Bad.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: But I also think he wants to play with the brother.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I really think that that's that's a big cowboy.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: That's a good spot for him. Quick quick question, since
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: even broke the ice on other teams, I just I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: couldn't help.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: But see question Kansas City's receiving core.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: What do you guys feel about that?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: Like, like, I mean, we talked so long about like
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: you're wasting Brady's window. Uh, you know, and he certainly
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: made plenty of work, but I just look at like,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: you know, Marquez Valdez, Scantling, Rashid Rice who is sky Moore?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: Uh and and Cadarius Tony.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: That's their top four. Well, how do you feel about that?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: Like if you're if you're a.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: Chiefs fan, But I think I think Valdez, Scantling, and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: Tony are very talented.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, And you left out Kelsey?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: Well, of course, of course, I mean he's the key piece.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: But you know it's like, I mean he goes down
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: to fall apart last year.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: Homes they'd be in trouble.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: It's just it's an interesting comparison because I feel like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: it's kind of similar, like, yeah, they have some talent there,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: but not really anything proven. You know, of course Kelsey
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: money in the bank for them, But you know what
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: point if that he gets dinged up one year, you know,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: how does it look curious?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: Now, to me, the wild card there is Tony. He's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: a first round pick, hasn't really panned out. But I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: thought he went there last year and gave him some juice.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: I thought there was some plays there that he made
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: for them down the stretch when he's healthy. I think
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: that's the problem with him is he hasn't been able
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: to consistently play five games in a row. Yeah, I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: mean we like Sky Moore, right, Sky could be a player.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: About but I think he's got some talent.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: It reminds me of like you know the thirteen Patriots,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: where it's like you have Patrick Mahomes, Right, so you're
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: probably gonna win twelve games just because you have Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: And it might not be the ceiling that you are
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: the actually really it's more the floor, right. It might
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: not be the floor that you necessarily want in a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: championship window, but I mean they're gonna be right in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: the mixer garden less side of.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: That young Bailey Zappi struggling.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't think he had a great set there.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: Some of it passed way behind the receiver, a short
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: pass and then he was way off the mark on
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: the sideline pass.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: Looked like a misfire.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hanging his head down a little bit.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: All right, we get a bit special team sir. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: it seems like it's going.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Seems like the we've got two minutes, we've got to
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: make the most out of it.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: The two lines of him just kind of doing their
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: own thing. Uh, seems like the line offensive line. Maybe
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: working on.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Some screen pass sets getting out.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I haven't seen any of those
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: guys yet. It's a lot of punction. Like Barringer, I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: haven't seen him.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: That was interesting yesterday I pointed out he had the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: shield on yesterday he didn't have his glasses. They asked
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: him about it in the press conversas, Oh, yeah, we're
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: looking through some stuff. He was kind of close to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: the vest on the reason for you know, I guess he's.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe trying to figure out between.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: The rexpecs or the Yeah, I think he's probably trying
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: to figure out they.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Got those contacts that are implanted. Now you don't even
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: need Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: I've had contacts to seventh grade. Really, I don't think
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: I could get him and planted.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: They got him in the eleventh grade.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's paint.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: It's the way life, the pain man.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: That's another thing.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: That's another reason why I can't afford binoculars, is your eyes,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: My eyes cost too much money.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: Well, what if you just made your contra really zoomy
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: and then you got to kill two birds with one stone,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: You know what? That makes get some contacts that are
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: really zoomy. You know, Yeah, maybe if I could just
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: adjust them. They should probably try to invent those pull
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: your ears.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: A lot of people calling in saying I should just
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: let you expense binoculars. I mean, if it's going to
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: improve your writing, I'm all for.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: I am not gonna do the binoculars. I find them
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: to be kind of cumbersome to take with me all
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: the time. I forget them half the time.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Said, people that use binoculars are heardos.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: A little bit.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: Really, there's a little bit of that.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: So I want to see so maharto.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, I guess I'm because I'm constantly looking
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: through the All you want to see is who somebody is.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see it without the binoculars.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not like you can't see the play
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: without the binocia.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I know, but I'd like to see who's doing it.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: And I just asked you guys, like, who is that?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Just seven nice? You know? Evan says, I was sick.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: I got a training pat camp backpack right where I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: got all all the materials. You got some binoculars, you
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: got some blocks, you got a rain poncho just in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: case it comes out of nowhere. Pens. Uh.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: The pens is something I was taught very early in
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: my always have an extra pant Oh.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and batteries for your recorder.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: But Bob and Wilmington good time for this special team,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: so it's a good time for this question.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Is there any news regarding new uniforms?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: The blue on blue home colors make the players look
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: like they're wearing pajamas. Adding a red jersey or red
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: pants seem like a perfect match. Watching Mac and the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: other guys wearing red, no contexts look better. When will
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: the Patriots be eligible for another uniform change?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Fred, I don't know.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: You don't know, but we did talk about it was
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: funny we were talking about that.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: I think they need to get rid of the silver
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: helmets and go to white with the new logo. I
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: think that would be sharp. And I think you go
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: with with white pants blue and white red on white.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: I think that would be that's sharp. Get rid of
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: the gray pants with the silver helmet. They don't match anyway,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: so let's go to white. That's just my two cents
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: for the uniforms.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: I know I'm just reading about.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: This is one tweet I'm saying, Well, somebody said the
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: Bills gave Steffan Digs more than sixteen million on a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: bonus three months ago. His dead cap number is monstrous.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: They can't trade him.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's he's stuck so and he's already getting paid.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: So I really is bitchy. It's not money, it's he's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: being bitchy.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Right, but it's but how do you how do you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: amend that fence?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: I guess if you're them right, I mean when when
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: he realizes that he can't get paid if he doesn't come,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: he comes.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: That's funny.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think it couldn't happen to a better guy.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think his long term I always hate Steffan
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Digs though that's my thing term.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's great for him in Buffalo, but
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: I don't really think it'll have much of an impact.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I think that there was I told I mentioned it
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: the other day. I don't know what show we were
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: doing about the about the girlfriend, and I was like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: kind of tongue in cheek about that. But there was
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: some stuff behind the scenes heading into that Bengals playoff
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: game that was not right with the whole operation there
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: in Buffalo, and I think that that's why you saw
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: the Stefan Diggs tirade after.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: The game was because they didn't think he was prepared.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: They weren't bought in like they weren't they weren't all
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: in on it. Yeah, I really think drops snap on
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: that punt. Yeah, not ideal.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was a it was a kind
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: of weird year for the Bills last year, you know,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: with the Hamlin thing and all that.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: I think, I mean, are you firing Evan though?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: The breakup, Josh Allen's breakup was it was a piece
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: of that puzzle.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: That that's what. Look, I have no information on this whatsoever.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: I just read Buffalo people that have information on these
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: type and that if you turn on you know, Buffalo
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio, you go to ninety eighty five in Buffalo,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: that that was a topic the conversations. Those are shows
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: in Buffalo. Buffalo. They had me on every once in
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: a while. It's great. Yeah, they they definitely talked about
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: some off the field, you know, personal matters with Josh
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Allen at that time of the year and uh, with
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: with his personal life, and it looked like a player
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: that wasn't exactly locked down.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: We all, we all, we all agree that Josh Allen
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: is an amazing quarterbacks.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Is he a smart guy? Is he smart?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: Don't Yeah, you can't make the leaps and bounds improvements
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: that he did without being a smart guy. I mean
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: that's just my opinion from Afar. Well, it's like Evan said, like,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know, we don't talk to these guys. Well, Evan,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: Evan has had a chance to talk.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: Josh expressed his love. Uh so, so Diggs was just like, hey, man,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: suck it up like the girl dumpy.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: We gotta win a super Bowl.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: And Josh was like, understand if if what Evan's talking about,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: we're getting some of those looks with a different quarterback.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: By the way that we talked about yesterday, the Evan's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: talking about, I could see like Stefan Dick saying like
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 7: your it's not right man, You're you're you're not ready
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: for the game, like you know, you let.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Us all that. I could understand that causing some some
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: of a rift.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's an outspoken guy, like I think so
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: you know, you guys are hard on him as a person,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: but he's an outspoken guy. And those receivers when they
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: like they're all the same, right, from the same cloth.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: They're all divas well.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: The good news is this dating an actress that's usually
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: pretty smooth sailing, you know, generally.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Eliminates Yeah, no drama with the actresses. Those eliminated drama work.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 7: But Tony Braxton called and said, just looking to wreck
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: another franchise.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Diggs did some interview I don't know if it was
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: it was right after the season or on a podcast
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: or something like that where he just talked about Buffalo's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: championship window and the fact that they right now that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: hit with his he's thirty thirty one years old and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: he's not getting any younger, and they start of have
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: this this couple of year period right now to maximize
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: the championship window. So it's not I don't think it's
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: money like Paul has been saying, because he's getting paid
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: and he's in on a good team, so he's buffaloed out.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: I think he's just agitated by the lack of urgency.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: He could be right too.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: I mean I think he's wrong, but he could be
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: right in just saying like like the Celtics, right, like
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: these guys are wonderfully talented, but it's never gonna happen.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Here very similar.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: Maybe maybe that's what they're feeling. And I know that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: people have used that comparison, you know, the Celtics to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 7: the Bills. I personally don't ever remember the Bills being favored, uh,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: you know in the AFC Championship game, the way the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 7: Celtics are routinely playing a vastly inferior team, the way
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: the Celtics always seem to do every playoff series.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: That goes seven games.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 7: Really about the Celtic shots. But but I do think
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 7: that maybe Stefan Diggs looks at it that way. Yeah,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: you know, again, I think he's wrong because to me,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: if I was, if you're a competitor, you figure out
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: a way to get over the hump. You don't figure
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: out a way to bitch about everything and say nothing's
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: my fault, it's all their fault.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: And that seems to be what he's doing.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I just don't understand how not showing up
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: for practice is going to help that situation. Be a leader,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Get out there and yell at Josh Allen and yell
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: at your coaches.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: I'd rather see you do that than not. Sure he
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: did plenty of that on the sideline.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they really need Kinkaid to be a
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: player for them to, you know, just take some of
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: the pressure off of that.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: They're like, listen, they'd be very good if Stefan Diggs
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 7: wasn't there. But they're not a contender without Diggs in
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: my opinion. I mean last year they really weren't a
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: contender with them.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, God knows.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: The Patriots haven't been able to figure him out.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: I just love it. Boom, I just love it.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: Poo boom.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: They get the paste up there and they just can't
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: get it. They just can't get it off.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: What are your is Coln Cower one of your guys,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Paul that Jewels? Ye might have a Jewels sighting.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: I think that it looks like him anyway, but I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: can't tell Edelman. I think he might have heard that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: Cunningham referred to himself as a.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: Better yeahs I'm here where where we are? We right
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: here at the corner standing with that Christ Mattis.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: I think maybe, oh.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's settlement, little man, that's settlement. Bumps. I hope
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: he uh he says hello, Jules to be in town. Yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: and I saw.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: I think inside the NFL is moving to.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Like U P N or something.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: They're mov into some weird channel c W, c W.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Sorry. Inside the NFL, that's on. Yeah, it's like showtime.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: It's going to be on the W.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Is that good or bad? Because now everyone I think
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: you don't have to have showtime.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: I think it's good.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: I I mean, I know it's changed a lot over
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: the years, but growing up for me, inside the NFL.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: With who was it?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: I that was?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: That was then watched TV.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: For me, I don't watch any of those shows anymore.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: I used to watch them when when not well you
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: don't like football, Paul, those shows you don't like the NFL,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: then why don't you? I love because to me it's
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: it was the nostalgia.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: I loved it. Jewels just signed an Edelman jersey kid
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: getting the fist bump.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: That's great, that's great, glad they let the kids run
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: down there, and that's all about the kids. About the kids.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you know, of course you got an Edelman
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: the kid like you know, oh my god, so got
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: an Edlman jersey was a Chrystal goodseus like just where
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: a buddy will be?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: Then then all of a sudden Edem's standing right.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: In front of you.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what you're talking about.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: You're not a parent, Evan, your dog doesn't wear jerseys?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: No, my god, thank god?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: Should we just went up a number of notches in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: my book?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Even Let me see if we can get Edelman up here.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Let me see, uh, if we can get him up here?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Do that for why not, Jewels? That's less time for
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: us to have this dead air right have so much
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: to talk about. Dig's talking. We're doing some run stuff
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: right now, and I I wonder, you know, there's so
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: much talk about are they going to go back to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: being a gap scheme? Are they going to go back
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: to running downhill and all that kind of stuff, And
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: right now they're they're not exactly doing that. I wouldn't
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: say this is like full Kyle Shanahan outside zone either,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: but they're doing some misdirection stuff there. They are getting
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: out on the edge a little bit though, and trying
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: trying to threaten the edge. But I just wonder how
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: much of this right now is is just well, we
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: don't have pads on, so we're not We're not gonna
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: really be running running gap and encounter right now without
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: being able to really contact anybody, but she talk about
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just another readoption here on this field.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: Like, I mean, it's just it's very significant to me
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: that they're practice practicing this both days of mini camp now, Like, yeah, I.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Can't I can't remember them doing it this much in
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: nine on seven like this, uh, this time of year.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they did this type of stuff
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: when they were game planning for specific you know, Mars
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: come to town. You're you're doing it on a Wednesday.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: But it just shows this has become a part of
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: the league and like you just you have to be
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: prepared for this, no matter what your schedule looks like
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: or what quarterback is on the docket.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: You have to know how to defend this stuff.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: But it's just, you know, it's one of those things
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: where you feel like you're their recurring themes to seasons,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: and I felt like last year that was one of them,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: and it was just like man again, like you know,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: Lamar second half just ran all over them, justin fields.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: Never even really did any of this stuff until that game,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, they win their only
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: road game of the whole year, the last game of
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: the season that they won you know, on the on
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: the legs.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Of Justin Field. So it's I don't always say it's encouraging,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: but it's at.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: Least you know they're trying to figure out how to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: decipher all that stuff right now.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's good. I mean, they definitely have the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: quarterback or whatever you want to call Malik Sunningham. They
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: have the person to do it very subtle, very subtle.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: So I think that that ends good.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: And I know, don't dismiss and there's a couple of
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: things I want to talk about with this, but don't
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: dismiss the fact that mcsloley's taking a lot.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: Of these steps too. Yep, and he can do that stuff.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: There was something yesterday that kind of stuck out to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: me in the transcript. Evan, you were in the press conference,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 7: so you kind of saw how it went. There were
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 7: a couple of questions about Mac and Bailey Zappy, their
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: relationship and how they feed, and I think there was
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: a follow up question and Bill in the middle of
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: the second answer injected trace McSorley, which I think was.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: Trying to in his way.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: Again, I didn't hear it to hear context, but to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: me it was kind of an effort to say, like,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: don't forget we have a third quarterback on the roster.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: Don't dismiss this guy. And I just wonder if you know,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: with Cunningham saying that he's strictly a wide receiver and
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: him bringing up mc sorely in a question about Zappi
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: and Jones, I just wonder if there's a little bit
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: more to that than we think, because I have sort
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: of written him off McSorley right now. Yeah, I wonder
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: if they haven't.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: Right, because I mean, how much can Cunningham do? I mean,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: it's nice that he that he could run, but you know,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: do you really need a guy that I mean, if you.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 7: Honestly want him to try to be a wide receiver,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: how much of the week do you want him doing
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 7: read option stuff?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the question with with Cunningham is always
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: going to be how good does he look in those
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: preseason games? And I even at the joint practices to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: do a degree with with Green Bay and in Tennessee,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: because he, to me is an ideal scout team practice
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: squad guy like.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 7: That would be great to see in those Green Bay
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: and Tennessee practices. Evan, does he get do they run
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: these kinds of place, right, yeah, you know with him
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: as quarterback, right because I think right now he's going
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: to be a wide receiver. But I wonder if they
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: have some sort of package for him that they they
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: want to see how it looks against Green Bay intent.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: I would just say, Paul I was, you know, when
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: when they first signed him. I went and you know,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: watched a bunch of his stuff and I was really
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: intrigued because it looked like he really had a special
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: second gear.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: And I haven't seen that yet. I haven't seen.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's fast, but I haven't seen like he
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: he's pretty question. I mean, he's a he's a mid
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: four to fives guy at the forty. It's not like
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: he ran like a four to three. But he can
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: dance like, you know, like he's got this like really
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: light like running style where he just kind of scampers
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: around a little bit. I oh, time, Montgomery must be
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: the sickest man in America. I don't know who happened
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: he dropped. He's a little you know, I don't know.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know who I would compare his running style to.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: It's it's not it's not quite Lamar. I don't think
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: he's got that explosiveness in the open field like Lamar does,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: but he has that like ability to just like avoid
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: contact like Lamar does, where he just kind of dances
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: in and out of tackles and then like tiptoes his
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: way out of bounds, so he's not taking a big hit.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Or what did Lamar? What did Lamar run? Do you remember?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: He didn't run? No, he's never run a forty, he said,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: you know, watch the tape.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I just be curious.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, some of those guys, like it's not surprising
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: you said he ran a four or five, but it's
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: just some of these players have a second year that
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't know what their time speed is like,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: but when they're playing football and in the midst of
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: the game, it's just when he's.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Jack Shones again, it's time on trace mcsory though. Yeah.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if you guys mentioned it, but
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: what Cunningham is running here, he's doing against the Pace
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Trids first defense that was, and the Patriots first offense
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: obviously is is against backups right now, and they're working
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of their running game.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah you got Zappi in now.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Edelman making his way up the sideline with Slater
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: So this is Zappi and he's with the regulars right now.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's gotten more reps today than
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 7: I remember him in any of the other practices we've seen.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: But I don't think he's looked as good to see
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: us another practice. Yeah, I've also noticed that in this practice.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Well now he's walking away, but macat no a little
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: bit more with his teammates in this one a little bit.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: Maybe maybe he was like saying, oh, I probably shouldn't
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 7: do that. Everybody asked him about it.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: I think when he got asked about it yesterday, it
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: definitely could have been like, oh, they're noticing this, Like
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: maybe I need to.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: When I'm treating the rest of the team with just
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 7: stand probably should hide it a little bit.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, I got a I mean, Butard was the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: first one to kind of write about this stuff, and
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: I hadn't really noticed it through OTAs.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: That's because we actually watched it, But yesterday it was.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: It was It's definitely noticeable how he was, uh, you know,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: just trying to stay isolated. And I mean I hope
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: that that's you know, just a mac thing, and that's
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: what he needs to do to kind of lock in.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: But you know, admittedly it's it is a little bit
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: strange just to you know, see him kind of buy
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: himself most of the practice.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his that's his routine. Now, that's what he
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: does going through those mental reps.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: I did buy the explanation a little bit. I just
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: think that I did. There's he can go through the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: mental reps ten yards away from everybody instead of forty,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: right like, because it just looks it's not even looking
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: right like. I don't even care. It just it just
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: makes the aesthetic of it with the media out here
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Right.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: He's just not even watching the play, you know, And
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: you wonder, isn't there something to glean from not necessarily
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: watching Bailey Zappy, but watching your teammates.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: You see what they're doing and then did that look good?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Did that not look good?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Why? Right? And what read?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: Did he take?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: You know, where should the ball have been? I'm sure
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: they watched all this stuff.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's and that is one of the big
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: differences between these practices in mini camp and OTAs is
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: they take the time after practice to look at the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: film of the practice.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: You know, that's something that you add as you go
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: through the summer.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was That was something I learned talking to
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: people this offseason of of just how intensely this film
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: is broken down and people are called out compliment of
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: the whole nine yards in terms of what they're doing.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, one hand, we're watching it,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: and well, you can't really learn much. I mean, I
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: know that they're taking a lot from it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Yup, there we go, open.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Field, angle drills, leverage.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the cornerstone of any Patriots practice.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: Probably the hardest thing to do, right, I mean, just
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: as a defender square up a guy in open field.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: And be able to you know, within a Yeah.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: Hard.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 7: The kind of stuff that used to just keep me up,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 7: like I just panicked.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna get a one on one guy, that's
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: gonna give you a little.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be in space with anybody, No,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: not me, No, my football career, I was never in
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: any kind of space with anybody.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: I was getting high with those with See. That was
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: freshman year.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: That was the fun.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: Linebacker was the fun playing offensive and defensive line as
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: a six foot, one hundred and ninety pound guy who can't.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: Really bend his knees all that. Well, that's the recipe
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: for getting your butt kicked every day.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: It's like you're on skates.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: It was. It was.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Andre from New Jersey. I'm right there with you on.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: Do screw Digs. I hate him just as much as
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: you do. Hope they completely collapse this season. Their offensive
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: line will let them down and their defense will take
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: a step back.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: Well, we can only we can only hope, yes, don't.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 7: Don't hope that you get better. Just hope all the
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 7: other teams.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Why can't we have both ball Just hope everybody else
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: gets worse? We have both? The healthy chirping on Twitter
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: between between Bill's Twitter and Patriots Twitter.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Over the last Well, they're making a big deal.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: About that playoff game that they just destroyed us and
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: that was that turns out to be their super Bowl.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: That was there with practice squad guys playing corner and yeah,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: that was their super Bowl.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: I got a question, what exactly are all our friends
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: in the media right now, because it seems like this
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: whole hill is dominated by all the VIPs.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: I don't really see they down in front of the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: front of the wall.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: I probably I don't see anybody but too bad, mister
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: practice tough two D.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, some some friendly, friendly rivalry type stuff with
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: the Bills media saying, oh, if the Patriots signed DeAndre Hopkins,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: they're still the worst team in the division. You know,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: typical ribbing. That's fine, that's bring it on.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: Maybe they're right.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: Try not to fall Down's chill.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: I went to my son had a flag football birthday
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: party yesterday. He was wearing crocs in it, like doing
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: moves like we just saw Jack Jones white bottom, like,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: what are you doing?
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Crocs?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: And then Alex told me a lot of time when
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: the players go to schools and they like, you know,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: visit kids you know that are that are like participating
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: in gym or physical activities, and they have crocs on
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: the players that are all just.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: Like, what are you doing? Do not wear crocs? We
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: shure trying to cut and run.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: Claire rights in who everyone Paul waiting to see you
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: in those glasses. One question, how are you guys feeling
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: and what have you seen of Adrian Clem?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: I feel pretty good.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: Uh, I'm not gonna lie. I think that what I've
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: seen of Adrian Clem is means absolutely nothing so far.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he's done. I'm just not judging it.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: He looks like coach coaching the offensive line.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's no pads and nobody's hitting anybody. So
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: I'll see in July.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Travis and West Virginia says, my best guess about whether
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen is dumb.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: He thinks he's pretty dumb. But I'm only basing that
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: on the dope look he always has in his face.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: He's a really dopey looking guy. Paul's assertion that he
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: must be smart because his play is improved is also
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: dope question.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Why does coach Belichick?
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: Why let performance impact your opinion?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: Why does coach belicher?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: Why does coach Belichick always talk to the media before practice?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: Is that standard across the league? Wouldn't it be more
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: informative to talk to him after practice?
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: Well you just answered your own Yes, there, there you go,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: all part of the plan, right, Well that was yesterday.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I don't have to talk about.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: But also there's just I just want to clarify.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: Yes, So judging whether or not a guy is smart
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 7: based on his level of improvement, that's dumb judging whether
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 7: or not a guy is smart based on the look
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 7: on his face is smart?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I wonder if you're gonna let that go?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: Got it? Okay, Corliss weightman, the punt be better?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you cannot. We're looking for on that one,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: But knowing like all the stuff that they do after
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: practice with the film and all that stuff, if I
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: was the head coach, let me get my my you know,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: press conference over before practice, because after practice.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: I want to get in. I want to get get
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: my food, my chicken fingers. He doesn't, but let's be honest,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: like the last thing that he wants is for like,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: you know, Christian Gonzalz to go off and practice in
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: the million Christian Gonzales questions after practice about how good
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: he was, Like.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: Bill, Christian had six interceptions during the walkthrough. What have
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: you seen from Christian this year?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: Just think it's easier for him to do it before practice.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: Quite frankly, I think after practice they get into their routine.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: They want to get ready, to get the meetings set
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 7: up and get get into it because like let's just say,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: for argument's sake, that Christian Gonzalez picks off five passes today.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: You don't think he's gonna be asked about that tomorrow, right, Like,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: what's the difference to today?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: Robert writes in after listening to yesterday's podcast, I had
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: an idea on how you can covertly tell us when
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: Malie Cunningham's on the field, just call him Richie. It's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: surprising to me the Deuce didn't come up with that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: an old joke.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Rie. I actually thought about it. Then, I know the fas.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: On the topic of Hopkins. Uh, and something popped up
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: right on the topic of Hopkins. I'm officially on board
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: that the patriot should sign him. I did find it
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: interesting that he said he'd like to play with a
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: quarterback that loves the game. This seems like a dig
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: on Kyle Murray. Kyler Murray, absolute, what do you guys think?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: Nice pump by Corliss weightman, That was what we were
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: looking for. Kyler likes Madden, but maybe not so much
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: the real stuff. Call of duty guy, Call of duty.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I apologize.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: Mike writes in, I think the Patriots will regret not
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: signing Gasicki to a two or three year deal.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: He will earn a huge deal after the season.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: Is over, so we're already worried about next one.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: How are we going to resign?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: To be fair, last year was his outlier here in
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: terms of production. I mean that system was not good
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: for him. Yeah, he had but almost eight hundred yards
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: and I think like sixteen total touchdowns over two seasons
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: there in his second and third year, and last year
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: was I mean he was franchised by Miami to bring
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: him back last year. Franchise tag.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't franchise somebody if you don't think he's
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: gonna be tough somewhorth to you.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: Well you can do it at that position to get
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: away with him.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that what they did was they
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 7: weren't quite sure how or if he would fit into
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 7: McDaniel McDaniel's new system, and then as it turned out,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: he didn't really. I mean, even like Cedric Wilson is
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 7: a free agent wide receiver they signed who.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: Had really no role for them.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: Not that he's a great player, but he was a
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: pretty good role player in Dallas prior to that, and
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 7: he really didn't do anything last year. So I think
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: when you get a new system, you don't know exactly
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: how the pieces are all gonna fit and GASICKI obviously
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: do you.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: Have like thirty some catches last year? Yeah, I mean
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: you just real lowy by a lot. That system just
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: doesn't have a ton of the detached tight end stuff
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: in it. It's a lot of in line hand in
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: the dirt. You got to be able to block and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: to sell the play action, right, So if you're not,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: that's just not his game.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: So I think people could could look at that and
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 7: easily say, well, you know, George Kittle is a huge
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 7: part of what they do in San Francisco, but he's
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 7: such a different kind of player right animal.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Looks like they're doing some opportunity seven on seven right
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: now like that.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: I think that's an opportunity for for you to go
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: to the bathroom. Thank you, Paul, Yes, okay, I have
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: a good tinkle about the play of the day yesterday,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: the trace mcsorly to Trey Nixon connection, the deep ball.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that. That was honestly probably the best.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 7: Actually, you know what I meant, I wrote it down.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 7: I meant to included in my maybe I'll throw it
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 7: in today. I don't think I ever included in my blogs.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: I was probably the best, like the actualitive deep ball
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: of camp.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Sorely taking the snaps there. Who's that whine on the
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: far side?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Eighty two wearing bell bottoms, bell bottoms. I was here
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: for that, pretty pretty involved practice for for Pierre Strong,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: which you know, with James Robinson getting released, I'm still
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: on the Pierre Strong train. I want to see them
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: incorporate him.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: The skills are obviously, I mean, yeah, he has a
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 7: level of athleticism and speed.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: I mean nobody else in that. They don't have very
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: many guys on the roster that that have hit his
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: kind of speed in the open field. You know it's him,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: It's Taekwon, it's Marcus Jones, like those are kind of
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: the group. And I would just like to see see
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: him get some touches, Like he's one of those guys
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: that even if he only has like four or five
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: touches in a game, if he breaks one for forty
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: yards and you know, it's still impactful even if he's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: not a volume guy.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 7: See Coylus weightman doing some kick cough work and I'm
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: not sure I've seen that is another one for your boy?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Is that Harrish.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: Are too huge?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: Ye? That's Harris.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: Have you noticed Weightman doing any of this kicking.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: Off before today? Not neces, Yes, a few times, Ryland definitely.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: Off.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I I mean, look that last year that
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: that might have cost you the playoffs, the fact that
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: you couldn't kick the ball through the end zone, So
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: that that's a a wide open competition. Not not that
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: that really moves the needle for most people, but kickoff
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: specialists are kicking off. And Bill Belichick was asked this
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: morning about carrying two and he did mention last year
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: how they they elevated, you know, and did that sort
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: of thing and had too active on game day at
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: one point kickers, So he wouldn't rule it out, you know,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: he said, I wouldn't rull it out. So it's it's
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: possible that they could try to keep another guy around,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: whether it's Weightman or or both kickers, to have somebody
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: to kick off. I don't love it, but it's possible. Yeah.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: I don't love it either. I think there's better use.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, certainly your fourth round pick should be able
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 7: to kick field goals and he didn't kick off the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 7: great you know who.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: Knows, Travis uh Yes, Paul Dopey. People are often looked dopey.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, contrary to Peyton Manning one of the dumber quarterbacks.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Contrary to your opinion, being good at sports doesn't mean
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: you're smart. Being good at sports doesn't mean you're smart.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: Who said that if he's good at sports, he's smart.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Well, you said if I.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 7: Said, I talked about the level of the swift level
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 7: of improvement he showed.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good at sports.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, you talk he was good at sports when
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 7: he came into the NFL, but he but he wasn't
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 7: playing as smart as he does now.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: That's really I can't really think of too many guys
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: that had to jump that Josh Allen, it's surgery. He's
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: really very, very unique in that respect that he he
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: looked like he couldn't hit.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 7: He had a water god given ability when he walked
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: into the league. Yeah, two years later he was one
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 7: of the best quarterbacks in football.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: I mean most of the time, like guys that that
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: are just balls of clay like that they their bus
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: like you know you're talking about like Jake Lockers and
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, that are just these freak athletes that
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: they try to mold into quarterbacks. But he's he's really
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: taken an MVP leap. I mean, he's an MVP.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: Can I just think the interesting to me?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: I know he plays for another team and everything, you
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: know in my vision and we have to say he sucks.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: But no, I mean I think he's really good. I
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: got a lot of respect for him. I just want
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: to beat him. But I don't know how anybody can
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: look at him and not saying he's awesome and has
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: had the Patriots number for the last three years.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 7: Just the way he plays for the most now, he
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: tries still, I think to do too much at times.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: That's my worry Paul this year, but not as.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 7: Like being like stupid, like I think he tries to
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 7: do too much. I think the offense last year got
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 7: a little stale. The Buffalo offense has as the season
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 7: went on, I thought got.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: A little stale.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: I just wonder that they got worn out, you know.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: I think part of the end of the year is
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: what you're saying.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: They they're they're an analytically driven organization and they're a
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: team that throws the ball in all situations. Like they
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: in terms of like passing rate over expected and things
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: like that, they are always near the top of the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: league with Kansas City. I mean they're they're throwing the
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: ball on first and ten, They're throwing the ball and
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: you know, all all situations. And I think what they've
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: found out, especially in that game last year against Cincinnati,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: if you don't have some semblance of a running game
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs, it makes you one dimensional and when
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: the weather comes in Buffalo it can be a problem.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: And they signed Damien Harris this offseason, I think, to
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: hopefully bring in what they think will be more of
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: like a running game. And I do think that they
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: get that. But at the same time, they drafted Dalton
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: Kid in the first round, who is basically MIKEA Sicky,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: So I don't know how much they get it, but
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: they at least are are trying a little bit to.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: Be no and I think they look at Damien Harris
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 7: and James Cook as better options for them, you know,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 7: traditionally running the ball, and I'd be surprised if they
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: didn't try to run it a little bit more in
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 7: some of those short yard of situations than they have
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 7: in the past.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: Now does Harris do it, I don't know.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, when he's healthy, he's reasonably productive, but he's
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 7: not ever healthy on any consistent basis.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, they their whole running game in Buffalo is
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen. And if Josh Allen isn't involved in the run,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: you know, whether it's keeping the football and actually running
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: it himself or some sort of read option or something
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: like that, they turning around and giving it to the back.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: They can't do it. They don't do it well. So
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: at some point, especially playing in Buffalo late in the year,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, how many playoff games have we seen the
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: Garrett Blunt running down Indianapolis's throat, you know, when it's
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: snowing or it's thirty degrees out and twice it just
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say too, he was irrelevant, Okay, all right,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: early two thousands games against the Colts were domed. They were,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: but they were a running team like in those days.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: That was Antoine Smith. That was.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: As you said, that's the butter.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: I just but for me, the bigges thing that I'm
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: worried about with Buffalo, and I'd say that is if
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: I'm a Buffalo fan, it's just all the talk about
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen having to like stop doing what he's been doing,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: you know, to get away from running the balls.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: I just if he's in his own head.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: I think that's a recipe for disaster. I think then
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: you're going to talk about regression.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: You're going to talk about him trying to force places
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: that aren't there because he's trying to you know, question whether.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Or not talking the of Buffalo right now. I love it.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: I think we're all trying to talk ourselves into it.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: But it's a good point. And I think like the
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: question is is and as they do like special team
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: stuff that I don't is really an excite too many people.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: But the question is is do they then get to
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: the playoffs and they're like, all right, now go be
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen like and then.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: On Well, they tried to do that to him last
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 7: Like I was joking last year when they played in
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 7: that kickoff game against the.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: Rams, and that's all they talked about all summers.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 7: We want him to be safer. We wanted to be
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 7: smarter with some of the decisions running the ball. And
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: I'm like, the first third down of the game, he's
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 7: like hurdling a linebacker and and you know, taking a
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 7: shot on the side, Like, oh, it's good to say
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: they're going to be a little bit smartly. I don't
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: think he's capable of doing that. I think he just
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: wants to make He wants to make place.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: He's not smart. He he just wants to make place.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: He's not smart. It's I've always thought that Josh Allen
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: is a more natural, better throwing Cam Newton. Sure, and
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: I think that he's Cam was the same way where
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: Cam Newton is the comp He was question he's superman, right,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: and he's just going to run you over. But the
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: problem was is by year eight, Cam Newton was his
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: whole body started to and I think that he is
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: refined enough that he will be able to play longer
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: than you.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: I think the comps also Gronk.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: I think these two guys who are just so naturally gifted,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: it's like playing in the school yard for them, and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: they could always just do whatever they want.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: Belichick used to refer to Gronk as a football player,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: the Josh Allen one of the smartest football players around. Interesting.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: Uh. Bill and Edelman spent spite having a goofy look
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: on his face. Billan Edelmans spent that whole UH session
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: talking to each other.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: There we go. Music's on all right, eleven eleven. We
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: got Mac on the center, yeah, John Jack Jones that
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: outside corner.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Gonzo watch out?
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: So that all right?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: So let's just talk about that one.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: It looked like they were about to run Mackett screen
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 6: to get SICKI but Jack Jones was like, maybe on
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 6: a blitz or it looks like.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: And went right in on it.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: What are the zoomies?
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that when the dog has the zoomies?
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: They just shot wanting all over the place.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did never heard that term. That's great. Maybe
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like Josh Allen, it's a fun it's a fun time. Yeah.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: That one was like did you know the play beforehand?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 6: Because they were all looking at this in the corner
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 6: blitz into like a wide receiver screen and like once
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: again not looking good.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, I think the defenses I think this is
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: real and I think the defense just had two great reps. Yeah,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: they were in there because they're they're hooting and hollering
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: on the sideline right now.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so far we're back to the Patricia offense.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: Where's with Phil O'Brien? Where is he? Billy?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: He's some back, He's back left, the man back on
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: the wing, three by one.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: Is that is that family out wide?
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it is. It's probably a man like overhead
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: right now over the slot.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just kinda drop into his own in complete
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: to Paka.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: The floods like just seem cleared out. And to your
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: point of it, I didn't mean to step on you there.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 7: Okay, to your point, like you said, this is real
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 7: and the defense is you know, as soon as that
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 7: pass was caught and they touched up, Parker Bentley put
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 7: his hand up in there with the fist fourth down,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 7: you know, So I do think this is a little
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 7: bit more a little bit more competitive than what we've
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 7: seen tipped past complete to Mac Jones and he could go.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: So Mac Threw got tipped, Mac caught the tip and
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: then took off when killed and that would have been
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: a touchdown.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised you hit the gritty there, and just
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: you know, f YI, the.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: Only rookie on the field right now is Jake Andrews
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: at right guard.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: So three out of.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 6: Four plays not to give me the offensive line then high,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: uh sure, left, right, left, right, Anderson Strange, Andrews, Andrews mcdermots. Well,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: I think it seems like McDermott's been get more of
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 6: the top reps numbers over reap you have.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: You happen to be lucky that I thought, whoa, that's mandra.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The offense is having a hard time I think
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: getting in getting in rhythm.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: I would yeah, I know without Juju and.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: Into a degree with that. Taekwon too. It's you don't
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: want to get too ahead of yourself, but they just
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: have been really.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: Really, this is gonna be a top five defense in
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 7: Everything is just under It might be, but it only
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 7: it only matter how they played against the other the
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 7: good offenses like last year.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: I know, the five defense last year.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: If they're a top five defense, they'll have played a
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: lot of good offenses on their schedule.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: But it's deceiving.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: It's my point.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: They'll play a very smart Josh Allen twice. They're gonna
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: play Aaron Rodgers twice. They're gonna play Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, pay Aaron Rodgers that was last year
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 7: because he sucked last year in the Packers offense.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: He's still a smart quarter.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: Let's go twenty seven on you.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: The Marjacks game we're gonna play.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: They're gonna tick overtime.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: You know they're gonna play a lot of good offense,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of good quarterbacks.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: To put a banner.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: Also took an overturn touch took Aaron Rodgers to overtime.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: It's their number five then or top five. They're gonna
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: have earned it.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just see what happens when the games that
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 7: matter PBu Peppers, little pressure peppers.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 6: He's all right.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: I just feel like this. I mean, like I just said,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: like this, they're missing two key players in the in
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: the past catching but that was like a third down,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: fourth down type of situation and brought the pressure. It's like, well,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: who who gets open? Like you, who are they going?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: It's not about they're gonna be a fine offense, but
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: it's just who's that one guy that that is tough
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: to cover in those types of situations And it's on
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: the sideline when you feel like when you watch these
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: practices all spring, you just can't help but but feel
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: like like Copkins is just you're screaming for it in
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: some of these practices. Just a guy that you can
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: go to all spots.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 6: So Mac Mac and that top offense and this is
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: a misfire by Zappa.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: So it's defensive days.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 7: An interesting note here, you know, just personal wise, defensively,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 7: Judon was not with that group and he's out there now. Yeah,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: that's why when I was kind of surprised that Bentley
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 7: was out over the slot on that play. Just yeah,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 7: I know, he didn't take part in the voluntary OTAs
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 7: maybe coming back in a little bit slower.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, had a throwaway a sack, nobody opened, blow up screen.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: That's ad pass.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not a great but another example of just Steve
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 6: Belichick kind of spinning the wheel.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: Where you got Jennings and and Judon coming off the
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: you know, the offensive left side.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 6: I mean they're you know, they're messing around with guys
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 6: and you know, given different weird books and stuff.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Battered pass is that Perkins pass couldn't have been because Jennings.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: Jennings has a white shirt. Yeah to right, Yeah, catched
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: by eighty six.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah first cru you don't even have to part.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 6: Your lips to say it. So I wonder too, if
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: this is supposed to be no huddle too minute kind
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: of stuff. They just can't string two plays together, so
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: they can't really get into it. Time Montgomery with an
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: actual catch, but seven.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Late in the down. I think we're gonna need batteries
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: for Fred.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: I think as Mike is off right at the best
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: part too.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: You got there, you go, Zappy? Oh, just played by
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: the cover. The coverage has been pretty good.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, in these two periods, these two these two uh
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 7: sets of playa there is thank goodness spread he's back.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: Batteries go fast?
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: Huh did you.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: Missing key on white today?
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: Any idea of what his deal is.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: It's always bizarre when a guy talks after practice seems
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 6: totally fine and he's just not out here the next day.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: It's strange. Yeah. Oh, trips bunch, classic Bill O'Brien, trips bunch,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: Zappy had a with that that wasn't a design run,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: was it?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: No, mean, that's why an opportunity system.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 6: Yes, it's uh sixty four, uh sixty three, sixty five
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 6: sixty two.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: In a fifthur.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: Let me give gonz a PB.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Gonzales close fast on that pass. The guy was
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: open and then he wasn't open.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: Basically the same script as as max sequence with before
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: the field zero bullets seventy four stuba right, stuba high
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: seventy four reef.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: Wow, I don't think he just walked out, all right,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: so that might it might have been sixty seventy four
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: in set of sixty four left tackle.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: Then okay, all right, looks like the ones are back
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: in inside it though. Yeah, yeah, same group as they're
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: going the same direction. Defense is right.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 5: All right, here we got this, but this was ZAPPI.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: So Zappy's getting some one snap.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: Yep. Get he's got a little work I.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: Think more I think a lore yep than than he
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 7: has in previous practice.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a there was a rare guy open in.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 7: These two sets that I think that was get sick sick,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 7: sicky cats bro.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Nobody had the hook? Are we doing the hook? The hook?
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: It's the hook.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 6: It's a sin man, it's a sin Yeah. Now we
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: got Sam Roberts in there. Uh, it's just interested to
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: watch him. Second year guy didn't really do much last year.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 6: But with guy out, he's really one of the only
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 6: new faces that potentially could maybe give you some replacement value.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: So he's in for Uh. I think they took a
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: quality out and they slid bar more over to the
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: right side and.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: That once he's in for.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: Tetrich tech teachers.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, but that's you know, Robert's opportunity.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: Maybe he can take it.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: This is the first day that that we've seen Zappy
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: get some extended work with David Andrews if you.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 7: Wanted, if you wanted to say there's a competition, today's
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 7: the first day that would back that up.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and Mac is you know, and I'm sure
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: your shows will Yeah, Max's way back.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: Now, that was the proper use of my shows because
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 7: Mike and Tony will be all of that. Of course
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 7: they probably won't know about that because they'll be too
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 7: busy getting breathless stat updates.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't even think the stats are gonna look
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 6: that great for Mac today, no matter how they cut
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: them up.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: No, so getting mafia. Look now, at Right Guard, I
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: had some seven on seven. You know, we're talking about
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: those fades and stuff, but when they get into these
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: team drills, it just seems like there's just nothing down
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that would that would have been broken.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: And then there's no routes though.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all defense is coming here. You're uh, they're
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: sending the heat when when Hopkins is business.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, don't let them leave, that's what you
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: weren't here yet Evan though, And that was the point
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: I made at the top of the show. It's just
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 6: without Thornton, without Juju, it's really just Kasicki and Bill
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 6: O'Brien are the only new elements were looking at at
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: the offense right now. And you know it's your point,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 6: that's it's kind of all your speed and playmakers. If
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 6: you were to have you know, Juju and Thornton and
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: Hopkins like, it wouldn't be that hard for ant of
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 6: us to just see those three guys supped in as
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 6: the three receivers right now.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: For the three that are out there, two that are
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: out there, I just think that you you know, Parker
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: is obviously a contested catch guy, and then Born and
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: the tight ends they're gonna just want to work the
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: middle of the field, and that that intermediate level and
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: the defense know is just all over it right now.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: There's just no there's no threat of anybody going up
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: the field. Really some of these plays.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 6: This is the perfect practice they needed the day before
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: de hop comes. But I gotta say to one other
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: one other thing to highlight it's just between the rookies
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 6: and the options that they have at right guard I
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: really wonder, like if Michael and when you becomes back
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: and he's healthy, is that a move they try to
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: make somebody needs a guard. He's one of the only
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: guys on the roster you might be able to spin
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 6: and get some value for. But what do you what
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 6: are you looking to get any now, I don't know.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 7: Player, maybe a lot because I think you, I mean,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 7: I think you'd probably get are Yeah at best, I mean, yeah,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 7: I'm not.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: I think he's more valuable to you. Yeah.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I just think also, if we're not sure about
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: Trent Brown, I wouldn't I wouldn't mess it up too much.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: Tail. That's a good point.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 7: I think what you have to hope is they drafted
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 7: three offensive linemen. Can one or two of them play
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 7: next year? That's I mean, that would be ideal. So
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 7: then you let it, let it when you play, and
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: then you feel fine letting him walk away because Antonio Maffi.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: Can step right in and play next year.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 6: You know, Oh, you wonder if maybe you draft the
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 6: left tackle next year, and then you know, it's just
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 6: cold strange.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: Jake Andrews.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and all of a sudden, Mafi and so are
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 6: the media of your line they're all in their first
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: three years of the league.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 7: You get some of the Uherson there now with the
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 7: Chase McSorley, But still I think the defense is like
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 7: all over that.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're too good not letting us.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: Is that Mapu out there fifty five yeah, fifty two,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: fifty two, Yeah, playing safety? So I need monocular Yeah,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: he was a.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 5: Lot less noticeable today.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's been reading. He's been reading Patriots dot com. Yeah, Bill,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: I mean reading too much. Patrios dot Com. Put an
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: end to that.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 5: Well, like I said, those high level reps, it was
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: Andrews was the only rookie out there on the oppensive
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: side of the ball and nobody on defense.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, oh boy, Defense's day.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: Paul, you used that headline yesterday.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: Part deh.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 7: Part of the reason I did it that way is
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 7: because I knew Evan was writing about the offense, and
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 7: I knew you were writing about the rookies.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: So I didn't want to have like duplicate headlines.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you would be fair as I've bashed the
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: offense for the past ten minutes. You this defense has
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: been together. I mean, this is a group that's been
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: together there's no coaching turnover, say should be like.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 7: This, especially in a passing camp where your secondary is
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 7: in particular. I mean, yes, you're you're implementing Christian Gonzales.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 7: But those safeties have been together for two and three
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 7: years now, Phillips, Duggar, Peppers now two years.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: Even Bledsoe has been around. This is his third season
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: in the system.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, with Jack Jones second year, Jonathan Jones been around
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 7: for whatever.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: Right, and you know Gerond and Steve still running it.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: So I would be more concerned if it was the
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: other way around. That's a good point. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: still early on in the whole Bill O'Brien thing, and
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: you don't have Juju or Taekwon. So there you go.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: I just talked myself and lost Devin mccordy though we're
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: back on Pitches dot Com Radio.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's significant.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: But I'd say I think I I mean, I kind
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 6: of felt the same way about the DMAC thing the
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 6: whole time. They're not gonna, like specifically go out and
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: get a specific free safety. They're gonna roll with what
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: they have. They're gonna use Miles Brian a little bit. Probably,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 6: they're gonna use Jonathan Jones a little bit in that
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: free safety role at times, and I think they're just
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: gonna try to roll with Dugger and Peppers and Phillips.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: I have the same question about them defensively, though to
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: an extent, because it's one of those things where like
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: Belichick and the Belichicks, I guess we can call it
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: and Jerrod can. They can smoke and mirrors and they
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: can disguise, and they can rotate all they want, but
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's going to be
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: third and eight. The Bills are going to get to
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and you're gonna have to get
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: off the field. And how much of that type of
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: stuff is really going to matter when you're going up
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: against you know, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen And that.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 7: Was the stuff I'm talking about With the whole top
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 7: five thing, I think you could be a top five
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 7: defense in this league and still be at a grave
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 7: disadvantage right against those good teams and crunch times.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: That's just still my concern with their roster. After watching
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: you know now that there's a possibility this might be
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: the last practice we see in the spring. I think
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: that though the roster is fine, you know, one through
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: fifty three, but that that top high end talent. There
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: are some guys that have been showing some flash, some
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: of the younger guys and last couple of draft classes.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's going to
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: come down to when the chips are on the table
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: and it's our best versus your best, and I still
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: think they have some questions on whether or not their
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: best is going to be better than everybody else's.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: That was somebody did something.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: Yea Anthony Jennings got to jump on the edge rush there.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: Ye yeah, Bill O'Brien not happy.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: I gotta what are we doing?
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know who he was yelling at, but yeah.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 7: Probably Jennings because he was about eight steps ahead of
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 7: the smack snapcount.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: Some Mac chilling with Bourn during that, so he hasn't
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 6: been an island the whole time.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: It's like we're getting some of the starters out there
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: again for defense.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: This is Mac at quarterback.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: Assume Mac is back in.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: The good old Matthew's BA.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: Got some Antonio Maffi reps that left guard, so still
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 3: it right tackle and seen in some of these these
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: three deep across shells and the kind of rotating into
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: different spots from it, which is interesting.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 7: I don't want to say this like it like it's
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 7: a big thing, but that looked awfully twenty twenty two
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 7: esque that play. There were two guys in the same
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 7: spot on the sideline. It looked like you over torew
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: a running back and a tight end end up diving
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 7: and catching it.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: On the sideline.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: Quick pass.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: It looked Okay, it's my guy, strong, look it's strong.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't I I agree, Paul. I've gotten some
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two bots from today.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 6: A little bit with the offense, that's all.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 7: But the the road constant. Someone did something wrong on that.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 7: But there's no way those two guys are.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: Supposed to be in the same speed.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: Generally, it's a lot of checks downs, a lot of
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: just you know, well, I think that passed.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: That's but that's gonna be. That's going to be the offense.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's what Bill likes to do,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien, and I think that caters to his quarterback too.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 7: I don't think you can do what they tried to
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 7: do with Mac Jones last year and just say let's
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 7: just rip, let it rip, drive it down the field.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: Consistently, kids, take what's there. Be decisive, be quick, little,
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: you know, take what they give you, sit rosal option
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: routes underneath, you know, find the soft spots, clear it
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: out and run it underneath like that. That's Bill O'Brien, like,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: that's that's what he did, and he's done for ten years.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: What the offense looked like with Brady mac some audibling.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: I like to see that. Yeah, I think there's that's
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: one thing that I think we have noticed as a
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: positive that there certainly has been at a little bit
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: more of that direction at the line of scrimmage from
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: mac already, where it's not just for you're gonna get
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: up to the line and just run whatever we called
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: h There there's a little bit of adjustments going on,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: and even you know yesterday with some of those completions
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: he had against the Blitz late in practice, you see
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: a little bit more of that every day. A lot
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: of Pierre Strong woman's practice.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, comes with a good time though certainly.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 6: It's like we see the opportunities that arising for some
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 6: of these guys, Sam Roberts, Pierre Strong just based on
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 6: health cuts all that stuff, and they've got to be
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 6: aware of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, big play here, third and five zero. Rally Webb
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  Speaker 3: is his number one receiver, and you.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 7: Got Soca underneath. They're gonna give him the first down.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure he would have had it, says here
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  Speaker 7: in the card. Oh no, I think he's calling fourth down,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 7: fourth down, fourth down.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: This says Rally Webb. Matt Sokele. Yeah, I think Trey
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: Nixon was in there.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 7: Trying to stick, say first and ten, but I thought
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 7: the uh, the ball placement. I thought he indicated forth down,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 7: but perk.
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  Speaker 3: Skurt, Sure, how do you do that? It's back in
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: the throat. I beg your pardon.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 6: I feel like, what's his face? The Fox guy, Frank
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 6: Kelly Endo, you know SoC the SoCal show, say, gronk.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: Out there in eighty seven.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of quick passes. They've given up on those
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: longer routes.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, Judon tied up with somebody.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: They're being silly.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 7: No, they were being silly. But but Jennings came over
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 7: and chewed on and chasing Hines. I think I think
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 7: he might have been stuck. Yeah, seriously, it's like a
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 7: face mask. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what happened.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: Man didn't look like it was heated.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't think some huh rpo perhaps, yeah,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 7: But I did think that Jenny's might have thought there
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 7: was something going on and he kind of came over
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 7: and they.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: Just he left and he's on the sideline now, huh
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: on a knee.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 5: All right, Mac is dehelmeted.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna be it.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 3: There.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap this thing up.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: They're going into some special team stuff, which we'll leave
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: that for somebody else to cover part. Yeah, but that's
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 4: day two. That's a wrap for us. Thank you for listening,
• 1:59:51
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• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: We don't know.
• 1:59:57
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• 2:00:00
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