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- 0:04[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jordan Lugo.
- 0:05[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much for being here Tuesday, June 2nd.
- 0:07[SPEAKER_00]: Right now we're talking about potential Jaguars Cap Cuts.
- 0:11[SPEAKER_00]: Now that we have officially passed June 1st, any cut falls under the June post June 1 category.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_00]: And that potentially saves the Jaguars a lot more cap space if they decide they want to use it by moving on from any of the players that we're going to talk about today.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_00]: There's basically a short list of seven players where the jag wars would save a fair amount of cap space from moving on from them.
- 0:40[SPEAKER_00]: Personally, I only think there's one guy that actually makes sense, but we're gonna dive into it because again, after June 1.
- 0:48[SPEAKER_00]: all these cap cuts could potentially make more sense and offer the Jaguars a little bit more flexibility.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_00]: If they wanted to make a move like a trade for a big player, you saw a couple of those yesterday.
- 0:59[SPEAKER_00]: Miles Garrett going to the Los Angeles Rams, feel absolutely horrible.
- 1:03[SPEAKER_00]: for Jaredverse.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously AJ Brown, everybody knew was happening going to the Patriots.
- 1:09[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to dive in all that stuff.
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- 1:55[SPEAKER_00]: Looking at these players where the Jaguars could save a fair amount of cap space by moving on, I mean some of them it's like a massive amount of cap space.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguars currently have for 2026, 9.5 million dollars in cap space, so they do have enough room to potentially make a move,
- 2:13[SPEAKER_00]: and add a star player, now if that star player's contract is over $9.5 million, they might have to convert some of that to a signing bonus or a roster bonus, they might have to move some things around, or they could move on from one of these players.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to mention the first one that we've got here on the list, Eric Armstead.
- 2:35[SPEAKER_00]: He is a player that quite frankly, a lot of folks around Jacksonville, a lot of media,
- 2:43[SPEAKER_00]: thought that he would be gone.
- 2:45[SPEAKER_00]: Just based on the fact that the Jaguars could cut him and save 14.5 million dollars, just under $14.5 million in cap space.
- 2:55[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's a massive chunk of change, but I think what a lot of people didn't factor in was the Jaguars, their front office, and their coaching staff, and how much they valued what Eric Graham said could bring
- 3:12[SPEAKER_00]: And in reality, if you move on from Eric Armsted, what is the alternate route?
- 3:19[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy that, to me, when he wants to pin his ears back and just be a past Russia, he is pretty good in that scenario.
- 3:30[SPEAKER_00]: He was playing through injuries last year before he hurt his hand.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_00]: which is a little bit past med season.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_00]: He was playing excellent football.
- 3:41[SPEAKER_00]: He was among the league leaders and pressures at the defensive tackle position.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_00]: He was among the league leaders and sacks at the defensive tackle position and he was part of a run defense.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_00]: that was the best in football.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_00]: And he was able to maintain a lot of his ability to stop the run, but the past rush juice wasn't there as much down the stretch for Eric Armstead.
- 4:06[SPEAKER_00]: But,
- 4:07[SPEAKER_00]: This is a great veteran presence, a piece to a very good defensive front.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody who the Jaguar is probably think they can get more out of if they can keep them a little bit healthier down the stretch.
- 4:19[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Arm said, has dealt with a lot of injuries throughout his career, something to keep in mind.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_00]: But again, what is the alternative?
- 4:25[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
- 4:26[SPEAKER_00]: They do kind of have an alternative now, and that's somebody that they brought into the building via trade trading Mason Smith for Rook Aurora row.
- 4:34[SPEAKER_00]: I believe, however, unless you're going to make a big swing for some defensive tackle that you trade for, having Eric Armstrong stood in the building.
- 4:45[SPEAKER_00]: is going to help you on the field in 2026.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's probably going to be gone in 2027 unless they just work out a deal.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_00]: He's up there in age, unless they work out a deal that is very, very team friendly.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_00]: It feels likely that Eric arms dead probably will be gone in 2027 because his contract is expiring.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_00]: He's up there in age.
- 5:06[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he wants to, you know,
- 5:08[SPEAKER_00]: test the open market and see where is the most he can make.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that could be Jacksonville, right?
- 5:14[SPEAKER_00]: He could stick around though, wouldn't be totally shocking, but they do kind of have a built-in option now with Rook Aurora who has two years left on his contract, 2026 and 2027, having both of them in the building, as guys that can potentially help you as past pressures in 2026, I think makes a lot of sense,
- 5:38[SPEAKER_00]: Is it possible that Rook once you get into like OTAs there?
- 5:42[SPEAKER_00]: And now, many camp could he impress you so much that you're like, well, if we did move on from Eric wrong said and saved this cap space, what could we do with that?
- 5:52[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't think you decided to just save cap space for the sake of saving it.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_00]: I think that if you're going to save some cap space, you want to do that to improve your football team.
- 6:05[SPEAKER_00]: you want to do that so you can make another move like a trade right um so again for me I don't really think cutting air gromm instead makes much sense at this point unless there is another move subsequent move you know coming down the pack.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_00]: I think having Eric Armstrong's dead and Rook, having Eric Armstrong's dead, if you think that Rook can maybe play the Eric Armstrong's dead role in 2027 as a starting like three-tech type player, you probably want him around Eric Armstrong's dead this year, right?
- 6:44[SPEAKER_00]: to learn from a veteran who has made a very, very nice career for himself in the NFL, Rook is still a young player and still needs seasoning, right?
- 6:56[SPEAKER_00]: So I wouldn't be moving on from him unless I have another move in place for a defensive tackle that I think is just going to, you know, vastly improve what you have there.
- 7:08[SPEAKER_00]: The next player up,
- 7:11[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, Luke and I cannot see movement on from him at all, right now.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguars would save $10.25 million in cap space if they did decide to move on from him.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_00]: But again, it's like, why, what's the point?
- 7:27[SPEAKER_00]: He is under contract through 2027.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_00]: He is a leader, like unbelievable leader.
- 7:34[SPEAKER_00]: If you're like newer to watching this channel, tune it in to the podcast, whatever, foe, Luke and his leadership that he has displayed in Jacksonville has really been seconds and none, time after time every time, season after season after season, green dot player, balance linebacker, just excellent.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_00]: So to me, again,
- 7:59[SPEAKER_00]: what's what's the point of moving on from foyer like do you want to insert jack Kaiser into the lineup brands and combs I'm not ready to do that maybe after another year of those guys learning the system you could feel comfortable with that but ventral millers also in a contract year so I personally unless foyer has like a major drop off this year which I don't expect would be looking for him to play out his contract
- 8:28[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that expensive.
- 8:30[SPEAKER_00]: When he first signed with the Jaguars, he was making a lot higher percentage of the cap.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_00]: He was way up higher on like the list of linebacker contracts.
- 8:38[SPEAKER_00]: He's not nearly that high anymore, and so to me.
- 8:43[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see it a reason to move on from foiello again.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_00]: Again, unless you have something that you want to do from a cap standpoint that you need more flexibility for, why are you moving on from an aircraft, why are you moving on from foiello again?
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- 10:34[SPEAKER_00]: get in the rest of this list and the reason again we're doing this is not to say any of these guys should get cut.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they should move on from any of these guys unless there is a clear plan in place.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_00]: But just highlighting the different potential opportunities for the Jaguars here.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_00]: Devon Hamilton.
- 10:50[SPEAKER_00]: Jaguars could save $8.4 million, just over $8.4 million in cap space by moving on from Devon Hamilton.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's any way in the world they're moving on from Devon Hamilton this year.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_00]: This is a player who they view as the top nose tackle in the game and run defense.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_00]: I think he earned that kind of recognition last year, anchoring the best run defense in football by a fairly wide margin.
- 11:17[SPEAKER_00]: To me, he's still kind of getting back to being at his best.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_00]: There is a possibility that Devon Hamilton takes another step forward back to what he was prior to his scary back-health situation that really, I mean, it caused him to lose weight.
- 11:36[SPEAKER_00]: He was a scary situation for Devon Hamilton.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he came back in twenty twenty four wasn't quite himself twenty twenty five dominant run defense season for divine hamilton but uh... didn't do a whole lot in the past rest department obviously did have a huge batted past at the line of scrimmage in overtime that helped the jaguar's beat uh... the raiders but again uh... didn't do much in the past rest department there was a time before his injury where it looked like
- 12:09[SPEAKER_00]: He was going to be a dominant pocket pushing nose tackle against the past.
- 12:15[SPEAKER_00]: Like somebody who could just steam roll guards and centers if he gets a one-on-one opportunity and kind of collapse the infrastructure of the pocket.
- 12:25[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't see that as much last year.
- 12:28[SPEAKER_00]: You might see that a little bit more this year in my opinion.
- 12:32[SPEAKER_00]: So I wouldn't be moving off from Devon Hamilton.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_00]: Now, had the Jack Wars wanted to trade for someone
- 12:39[SPEAKER_00]: and you then you move on from Devon Himmet like that sort of thing could have made sense, right?
- 12:43[SPEAKER_00]: But at this point, it just doesn't move the needle for me.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you did draft Albert Regis to be a future nose tackle.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_00]: Devon Himmelton's contract is up after this year.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't think you cut Devon for Albert Regis right now.
- 13:03[SPEAKER_00]: He's too integral to what the Jaguars are doing.
- 13:06[SPEAKER_00]: Up next is Ezra Cleveland.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_00]: who the Jaguars would actually save $9.2 million in cap space by moving on from him.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_00]: Another one where it's like, you have continuity across the offensive line.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_00]: Ezra Cleveland is coming off to, in my opinion, very good seasons.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_00]: He showed a lot of chemistry with both Robert Hansie at Center and once Colvin and Leningrad over there at Left Tackle, they were moving people over on that left side.
- 13:34[SPEAKER_00]: They were doing a really good job.
- 13:35[SPEAKER_00]: Cleveland is a really good athlete who also brings some nasty, some fight to him.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_00]: And I just can't see moving on.
- 13:42[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, you have a lot of options at guard.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_00]: You have, why am I letting me draft it in 2025?
- 13:52[SPEAKER_00]: You have a manual pregnant on.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_00]: You drafted in 2026.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_00]: You have Walker Little as well.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't really see it, honestly, that would be, that would be strange to me.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned Walker Little, you're not saving anything by moving on from him right now.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_00]: If you trade him, that's one thing, but Walker Little right now, I think is probably going to be in the mix to compete.
- 14:23[SPEAKER_00]: maybe even to start at guard, not with Ezra Cleveland, but maybe over on the right side.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that he did a good job when he was forced into starting action at guard.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_00]: I think Patrick McCary is clearly the starter right now, but there's going to be a lot of competition on that O'Line.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_00]: The young guys walk her little as well.
- 14:42[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see any reason to move on from an Ezra Cleveland when he was a good, good player for you and I think he projects to be that moving forward and it is the final year of his contract.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_00]: When you have guys, that's another factor.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_00]: If Eric Armstrong said moves on, and I don't expect to be the Jaguar, the Jaguar is to be really active in for agency next year.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I don't see that.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_00]: Things could change, but the way it looks right now, they're up against it with the cap a little bit.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_00]: They've got their own guys to resign when you talk about Parker Washington.
- 15:17[SPEAKER_00]: You talk about Britain's strange.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_00]: So, all that to say, they could be playing the compensatory pick formula again next year.
- 15:26[SPEAKER_00]: So, Ferric Armstrong said walks and gets paid.
- 15:28[SPEAKER_00]: If Devon Hamilton walks and gets paid.
- 15:31[SPEAKER_00]: If Ezra Cleveland walks and gets paid, right?
- 15:35[SPEAKER_00]: These are all guys that could help them
- 15:40[SPEAKER_00]: They did a great job navigating the config formula this year.
- 15:43[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting three picks back projected right now for Devin Lloyd, Travis C. T. N. And Greg Newsom.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not just throw away seven they're on picks either, right?
- 15:54[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's projected to fourth to fifth and a six round pick.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_00]: That's helpful right there.
- 15:58[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's if you cut these guys right now, you're not getting compensatory picks for them.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_00]: keep them around, you potentially get a compensatory pick if they walk in for agency after their contract expires and they make enough money.
- 16:15[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely something to keep in mind there.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_00]: Now the one player who I mentioned that I thought that there was one player that really made a lot of sense for the Jaguar's to potentially move on from.
- 16:27[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, maybe there's two.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_00]: The second one just doesn't save you much at all.
- 16:34[SPEAKER_00]: And it's Tuma-Doga.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguars would save $2.9 million in cap space by moving on from Tuma, Doga.
- 16:45[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a huge number.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_00]: However, I just don't know that they're going to have space on the roster for him.
- 16:53[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got your starting five, right?
- 16:55[SPEAKER_00]: And then you've also got Walker Little, who I think is clearly a better player than Tuma, Doga.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_00]: You've got.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_00]: Jonah Monheim who's not going anywhere.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_00]: He's a sinner, but they believe he could also play guard if they needed him to and obviously played a lot of tackle in college.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_00]: Why at my lumbar.
- 17:11[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you'll pregnant on.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_00]: Is there going to be room for Tuma doga?
- 17:18[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, he's like at best your tenth offensive lineman.
- 17:26[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to keep ten?
- 17:27[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when you
- 17:33[SPEAKER_00]: That's a tough call.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you're keeping 10, again, you've got Anton Harrison, Patrick McCarrie, Robert Hansie, Ezra Cleveland, Colvin Lannon.
- 17:45[SPEAKER_00]: You've then got Walker Little, Emmanuel Pregnant, John Ammanheim, Wyatt Mylem, I think Tombow would be the 10th guy right now, and maybe you do keep 10.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_00]: I would surprise me a little bit, though.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_00]: Because with my alum, you definitely feel like you have somebody who can play guard and probably tackle for you in a pinch.
- 18:04[SPEAKER_00]: Walker little can play four positions for you.
- 18:07[SPEAKER_00]: Jonah Monheim, I think they believe could play three positions.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_00]: I think, pregnant one, I think, could play either guard spot.
- 18:13[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a lot of flexibility right there.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_00]: Chumma might make sense, especially if they have confidence in some of the other players that they've added that are coming in here and competing, added or kept from last year.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_00]: They've got a number of guys that could step up and potentially give a dug-a run for as money, like Zierer, who is former unwrapped for reagents, how warmly he's been around a little bit, Jerome Carvin,
- 18:45[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky Lee, they've got some guys.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_00]: Gonna be fastening to see what happens there.
- 18:51[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one that could make sense.
- 18:53[SPEAKER_00]: But again, if he is your 10th best offensive lineman and you don't need the $2.9 million in cap savings and you're gonna keep 10, if he's the 10th best guy, you should keep him.
- 19:11[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying they should definitely move on from him,
- 19:14[SPEAKER_00]: it seems possible at some point that he could get beat out to just for the roster.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Best guess is he, if they keep 10, he would be the 10th, but 10 is a lot to keep.
- 19:25[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of spots on the roster where you wanna have a lot of depth, obviously offensive line is one of them, but it's a lot.
- 19:33[SPEAKER_00]: Now, looking at the other two, well, okay, so Hunter long, I think just makes sense just because like, is he gonna make the roster?
- 19:43[SPEAKER_00]: So that could potentially be something, just because you know, you have Britain strange, you have Quentin Morris, you have obviously Nate Borkercher and Tanner Kozuel, that's four tight ends right there.
- 19:57[SPEAKER_00]: It's not how long you're gonna make the roster.
- 20:01[SPEAKER_00]: You could try to make him like your practice squad call-up guy if he doesn't make their roster.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to keep five tight ends on the roster.
- 20:08[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 20:08[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one that is interesting.
- 20:10[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next two to mention are just really silly to even talk about Antonio Johnson and Parker Washington.
- 20:17[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguars would both save $3.6 million by moving on from those two guys, which, again, just doesn't make any sense to move on from them.
- 20:29[SPEAKER_00]: The cap space is cap space.
- 20:31[SPEAKER_00]: These are two guys that, I mean, Parker Washington is like, maybe the Jaguar is number one target at receiver right now.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_00]: Antonio Johnson is the Jaguar's best safety right now.
- 20:43[SPEAKER_00]: So you're not moving on from either of those guys.
- 20:45[SPEAKER_00]: I think Parker Washington, you're probably trying to extend.
- 20:48[SPEAKER_00]: I would not be mad at all if they could figure out something to extend Antonio Johnson as well.
- 20:54[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like when you look at,
- 20:57[SPEAKER_00]: Well, when you look at both positions, honestly, why do receiver and safety just talking about these two guys?
- 21:04[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like Parker Washington is the only receiver in town.
- 21:07[SPEAKER_00]: They have Jacobi Myers under contract.
- 21:09[SPEAKER_00]: They have Travis Hunter under contract.
- 21:10[SPEAKER_00]: They have Brian Thomas Jr. under contract.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_00]: They drafted two receivers this year.
- 21:15[SPEAKER_00]: And then Antonio Johnson at safety, they'll have Eric Murray under contract through 27.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_00]: They drafted Jalen Husky this year.
- 21:23[SPEAKER_00]: They drafted Ray on Lane and Caleb Ransal the year before.
- 21:26[SPEAKER_00]: So these are positions where really fascinating to see what happens, honestly.
- 21:33[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's been a lot of resources poured into them.
- 21:36[SPEAKER_00]: Via the draft and free agency.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_00]: And so those are two guys that
- 21:41[SPEAKER_00]: gonna be fascinating to watch.
- 21:43[SPEAKER_00]: That'll do it though.
- 21:44[SPEAKER_00]: Just wanted to kind of give you an update on where the salary cap is, potential jaguars, cap cuts.
- 21:50[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're moving on for many of these guys unless there is a subsequent move coming down the pike.
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