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The Roster in Question | The Doug Pederson Show · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Doug Peterson Show.
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  Speaker 2: J T.
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  Speaker 1: Shadwick and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman discuss the latest Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: news with the head coach. The Doug Peterson Show starts
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in The Doug Peterson Show. Thursday afternoon. It's preseason
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  Speaker 3: Week one. The Jaguars meet the Dallas Cowboys at AT and
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  Speaker 3: T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, Saturday of five o'clock Eastern time.
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  Speaker 4: Kick. Welcome in, JP Shadrick, Jeff Loghman.
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  Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson will be back with us in
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  Speaker 3: studio week one, when the Jaguars prepared to meet the
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  Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts on kickoff weekend, well, preseason kickoff weekend. I
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  Speaker 3: guess is upon us. Hall of Fame Week is a
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  Speaker 3: different week. That's one game.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go with a full slate of preseason games
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  Speaker 4: this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: It's amazing how little attention we paid till the Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame Week this year compared to compared to last year.
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  Speaker 4: I had it on for it was on TV. Did
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  Speaker 4: you watch?
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  Speaker 3: The guy watched like two drives and I'm like, why
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  Speaker 3: am I watching this game?
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  Speaker 4: What is going on?
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  Speaker 5: I was there last year I didn't even turn it on,
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  Speaker 5: and the one thing that I did do was read
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  Speaker 5: about some of the Hall of Fame speeches. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: watch them, but incredibly excited about some of the guys
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  Speaker 5: that got inducted. And a guy that I met when
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  Speaker 5: I was in New York that long his time was
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  Speaker 5: long overdue, Joe Cleco. And Joe one of the best
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  Speaker 5: football players that there ever was so much talent to
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  Speaker 5: play defensive tackle, defensive end, nose tackle, he could play,
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  Speaker 5: and he played all of those positions at a high level,
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  Speaker 5: achieving I think All Pro at every one of those positions.
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  Speaker 5: And he played in an era before the sacks became
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  Speaker 5: an official stat and his numbers from those defensive tackle
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  Speaker 5: those tackle positions were just unreal. Where I mean, there's
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  Speaker 5: not many people of today that can even come close
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  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald being in the exception, but Kleco was, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: what just a rare combination of just brute strength, raw power,
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  Speaker 5: and awareness. All right, So, preseason Week one Jaguars Cowboys
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  Speaker 5: Doug Peterson has said that the starters will get some
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  Speaker 5: playing time, maybe a driver two. See what happens with
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  Speaker 5: that first drive if it goes a little longer, and
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  Speaker 5: everybody kind of gets a touch and needs to see
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  Speaker 5: what you need to see. You go over there and
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  Speaker 5: sip some gatorade and hang out. But if it's a
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  Speaker 5: three and out, maybe there's a couple drives in this
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  Speaker 5: first game. Well, here's the thing. You want to be
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  Speaker 5: able to get your first team ready. But what you
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  Speaker 5: need to do we all know. Look, Calvin Ridley's gonna
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  Speaker 5: make the team. Christian Kirk, he made the team.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna do it.
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  Speaker 5: Is A Jones he's on there, agnew Earner, offensive weapon,
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be on the football team. Now you
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  Speaker 5: need to find out about all these other guys, okay,
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  Speaker 5: because you know those guys are going to make the team,
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  Speaker 5: because these guys are at the top of the pile. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: Now you need to find out who's going to be next. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: is Tim Jones going to be there? Is there somebody
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  Speaker 5: else that would make you say, you know what, maybe
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  Speaker 5: we need to keep an extra at this position. You
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  Speaker 5: got to evaluate the guys that there's question marks about
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  Speaker 5: about whether they're on this team or not. You still
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  Speaker 5: want to get your starters ready, but typically in this
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  Speaker 5: first preseason game, that's not what it's about it's just
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  Speaker 5: giving them a taste of the excitement, the flavor, and
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  Speaker 5: the mentality of getting ready to play the game. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: but the real evaluation in the bulk of the reps
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  Speaker 5: are going to the players that you need to learn about.
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  Speaker 4: You need to.
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  Speaker 5: Find out how these guys react to playing in a
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  Speaker 5: game in the National Football League, and that's why then
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  Speaker 5: that's where the attention needs to be in this first
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  Speaker 5: preseason game.
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  Speaker 3: Let's I mean, let's touch on a few of those
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  Speaker 3: position groups that could come down to the wire, and
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  Speaker 3: special teams will have a big hand in that. You
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  Speaker 3: mentioned wide receivers there, that's one of them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: how many tight ends are you keeping? How many running
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  Speaker 3: backs are you keeping? This could obviously change as the
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  Speaker 3: season goes along with practice squad and everything. How many
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  Speaker 3: defensive backs are making this team, Safeties, corners, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's that all comes down to the special teams part
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  Speaker 3: of it. What else can you contribute outside of that
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  Speaker 3: position group? Right, And that's why special teams are huge.
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  Speaker 5: And some of the positioned I think you got a
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  Speaker 5: pretty good idea of wide receiver, you got a pretty
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  Speaker 5: good idea of You're really deep there, you're really deep
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  Speaker 5: at safety. I think you know, the five guys that
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna have there corner is a big question, and
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  Speaker 5: that's a that's an evaluation that's gonna be going throughout camp.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you've got some young guys that you've just
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  Speaker 5: signed and drafted this past year with with Eric Kallett
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  Speaker 5: and Christian Roswell, guys you drafted last year, and monterk
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  Speaker 5: Brown and Gregory Junior. And out of those four guys, okay,
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  Speaker 5: two draft picks from this year, two draft picks from
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  Speaker 5: last year, and then you have to throw in there,
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  Speaker 5: Trey Herndon to Von Campbell, Chris Claybrooks out of those guys,
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  Speaker 5: and who's going to rise up, who's going to show
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  Speaker 5: something that is special? You know, even an undrafted guy
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  Speaker 5: like a Caleb Hayes or a Devad Wilson is going
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  Speaker 5: to have an opportunity to show things. But because that's
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  Speaker 5: the position of most intrigued right now with this football
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  Speaker 5: team is cornerback. I mean, you got a pretty good
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  Speaker 5: idea of who's going to be able that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be upfront and rushing the passer, and who's going to
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  Speaker 5: be playing at linebacker. But defense. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 5: big question mark is corner. And then here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 5: If you like your five safeties, are you going to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that you keep all five and one of
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  Speaker 5: those safeties? Could they play a lot of nickel with
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  Speaker 5: one or two different safeties? When I say one or two,
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  Speaker 5: could you play it with like last year Dewey Winger, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he played nickel last year in a big safety role.
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  Speaker 5: Could you continue to do that? Could you also have
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  Speaker 5: Antonio Johnson who has shown some really good things as
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  Speaker 5: a rookie safety. So there's some intrigue at that position,
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  Speaker 5: the defensive back cornerback position.
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  Speaker 3: As we talked about before it could you could probably
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  Speaker 3: change and alternate that idea of who's in that spot
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  Speaker 3: depending on the opponent too, Like what matches up better
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  Speaker 3: exact week to week. It could change, So plenty of
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  Speaker 3: evaluation ahead. It all starts at least in game mode
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  Speaker 3: Saturday against the Dallas Cowboys. In a moment Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 3: earlier this week discussing Calvin Ridley, the wide receiver's growth
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  Speaker 3: since arriving in Jacksonville. We're often running It's the Doug
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  Speaker 3: Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
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  Speaker 2: He being Calvin has really done a nice job of
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  Speaker 2: understanding our offense. You know, I think we're figuring him
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  Speaker 2: out now he's figuring us out. Trevor and Calvin are
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  Speaker 2: you know, figuring each other out.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit?
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  Speaker 2: And those are all things that camp. Camp provides a
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  Speaker 2: lot of opportunities to kind of, you know, get on
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  Speaker 2: the same page and see just how you know, as
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  Speaker 2: a staff we can use him in game.
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  Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week, Welcome back to
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  Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show from the Hyundai Studios at the
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  Speaker 3: Miller Electric Center. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Coach Peterson
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  Speaker 3: with us in studio starting week one when the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: prepared for the Colts. So, yeah, a lot of opportunities
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  Speaker 3: in camp, but everybody I think is kind of ready
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  Speaker 3: to see Ridley run around and make a catch or
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  Speaker 3: do something in a game and give him a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more and Saturday could be the chance.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how many opportunities he's gonna get, but
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  Speaker 5: he's an exciting player. He's got a great skill set.
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  Speaker 5: It seems that the chemistry between him and Trevor is working,
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  Speaker 5: and he seems to be fitting in and practice, you know,
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  Speaker 5: getting along with the guys. That's competitive, there's friendly banter,
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  Speaker 5: and that's important because you got a pretty good group,
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  Speaker 5: you know, without Calvin Ridley that love lot. Last year
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  Speaker 5: they made tremendous strides with the group that they had.
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  Speaker 5: So when you add somebody in, you're always excited about
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  Speaker 5: adding the talent, but you don't ever want to disrupt
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  Speaker 5: the chemistry. And I think the chemistry has been really
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  Speaker 5: good with Calvin Ridley. And he's hungry. I mean you
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  Speaker 5: can just watch the way that he practices, and he
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  Speaker 5: is hungry in a big way, and that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be you know, having a player that has great talent
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  Speaker 5: and that is hungry, that's a pretty great combination. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he hasn't played in a football game since he played
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  Speaker 5: five games two years ago. Obviously, it missed all last season,
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  Speaker 5: suspended sitting at home watching it on TV, working on
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  Speaker 5: his own. Not just sitting there eating cheetos. He was
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  Speaker 5: out there working. I love cheetos, Don't get it wrong.
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  Speaker 5: He was not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: He was working the whole time, and it showed when
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  Speaker 3: he came back in the offseason and now it's getting
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  Speaker 3: his legs right again in football mode, and I think
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  Speaker 3: that's just going to continue to grow as we move along.
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  Speaker 4: And remember it's a contract year for him.
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  Speaker 3: It is the fifth year, the final year of his
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  Speaker 3: rookie contract.
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  Speaker 4: It told over.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of reasons why not just new
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  Speaker 3: team coming off suspension, but the future ahead, and you
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  Speaker 3: know it, I think you're gonna get nothing but the
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  Speaker 3: best from Calvin Well. I hope, you know, and I
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  Speaker 3: hope that this team is in a position where you go,
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  Speaker 3: you know, gosh that you know, what do we doude?
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  Speaker 5: Can you know, can we afford to pay him? We
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  Speaker 5: have Trevor Lawrence's contract on the horizon. I mean, these
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  Speaker 5: are all good problems to have when you sit there
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  Speaker 5: and you go, gosh, we got another guy we gotta
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  Speaker 5: pay right. I mean, that's what you want. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: when when you have that problem, it's a good thing
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  Speaker 5: and you hope that you're you're at that point. But JP,
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  Speaker 5: I prefer the white Cheddar cheetos really for me, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: or white Cheddar popcorn either one really yeah, not the
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  Speaker 5: traditional No. I like the white Cheddar a little different. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's a little stronger taste to it, is it really? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know they made those. Oh yeah they
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  Speaker 5: make it. Yeah, oh yeah they make it. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think I need those. No, you don't need that. No, no,
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  Speaker 5: you don't need that. But Calvin Riley doesn't look like
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  Speaker 5: he's ever an eight one in his way. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think he's ever been done at isle. Guy is body fat.
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  Speaker 5: That's probably five six, seven percent, I mean not even seven,
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  Speaker 5: five or six percent.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean some of these guys.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look the year round training, in the in
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  Speaker 5: the in the focus on the way these guys eat,
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  Speaker 5: and the way they train now, the way that they
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  Speaker 5: even have more beneficial training that's away from the team.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's next level stuff. I mean way
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  Speaker 5: next level stuff. And so these guys are machines nowadays,
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  Speaker 5: tremendously fine tuned machines. And it's fun to watch. It's
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  Speaker 5: it's fun to watch a guy like Cisco who come
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  Speaker 5: you know, when he first came in, to the transformation
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  Speaker 5: that his body has made from his rookie year to now.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's Tyson Campbell very similar, you know, young
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  Speaker 5: you know, he's got that young baby face when he
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  Speaker 5: came in. Still got the babyface, but his body has changed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's what will happen with Like an
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  Speaker 3: Anton Harrison, that body will change over the next couple
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  Speaker 3: of years as well. Fun to watch, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: We're going back to Ridley Press Taylor who spoke today
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars offensive coordinator and said that, you know, sometimes he
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  Speaker 3: watches the offense from the defensive backfield, so he has
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  Speaker 3: the vantage point of the offense coming up at him
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  Speaker 3: and he'll stand, you know, twenty thirty yards and here
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  Speaker 3: comes here comes Ridley off the line, and he gets
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  Speaker 3: the vantage point of a defensive back having to make
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  Speaker 3: decisions against Ridley, right, and it's not that easy.
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  Speaker 5: He's so incredibly gifted, you know. At the release at
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  Speaker 5: the lion of scrimmage is one aspect of playing that
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  Speaker 5: position and running rout. But then he's incredibly sudden in
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  Speaker 5: and out of the breaks. And then the acceleration that
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  Speaker 5: coming up when I say the in and out of
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  Speaker 5: the breaks, when he plants a foot, he can plan
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  Speaker 5: a foot and one of the best I ever saw
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  Speaker 5: do this. I'll get to in a minute. But when
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  Speaker 5: you plan a foot and change and go another direction,
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  Speaker 5: and you can do that incredibly fast. That's where you
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  Speaker 5: gain separation to allow the quarterback to end up finding
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  Speaker 5: the openness of the wide receiver. And there was an
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  Speaker 5: offensive player that I played with many years ago, and
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  Speaker 5: his name was Freeman McNeil. Was a running back and
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  Speaker 5: he used to be able to run. He would be
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  Speaker 5: running parallel to the line of scrimmage full speed and
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  Speaker 5: could plant his foot and literally change ninety degree at
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  Speaker 5: full speed like nobody had ever seen before. And some
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  Speaker 5: people have that special talent. Some have to slow down
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  Speaker 5: before they plant and make that cut to go ninety.
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  Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley plants that foot and then is immediately going
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  Speaker 5: ninety and without really slowing down. It's just impressive to watch.
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  Speaker 5: And it's I don't know if there's ever been a
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  Speaker 5: guy that is so sudden in and out of his
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  Speaker 5: breaks that has played that position here. And I thought
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  Speaker 5: Christian Kirk was pretty good out break and it is okay,
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  Speaker 5: but he's not Calvin Ridley in an out of breaks.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's this guy's tremendous.
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  Speaker 3: If you need Christian Kirk to all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: run five yards and then get open real quick to
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  Speaker 3: the side boom. But he can go and run and
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  Speaker 3: there he goes, and but fifteen yards down the field
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  Speaker 3: to stop and start.
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  Speaker 4: That's a difference.
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  Speaker 5: That's a different that's a whole, entirely different animal. Christian
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  Speaker 5: Kirk is great at that short, quick area movement, you know,
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  Speaker 5: And that's why he's been so successful in the slot
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  Speaker 5: for so many years and why he got the free
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  Speaker 5: agent contract here in Jacksonville that he got is because
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  Speaker 5: he's really elite at that slot position. Calvin Ridley has
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  Speaker 5: an elite level of skill set that I think is
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  Speaker 5: more suited to the outside, but he can also do inside.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Devon really showed up, you know, last year.
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  Speaker 2: That's why he you know, he got the extension. We
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  Speaker 2: wanted to keep him around. He's one of the guys,
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  Speaker 2: one of the leaders on the team on the defense,
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  Speaker 2: and you know he's he's a big, powerful guy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there is a d lineman and he can
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  Speaker 2: he can generate some push and that's what you want
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of your pocket.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And and he's really a good run defender, and and
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  Speaker 2: so you know all those things we've seen the same things.
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  Speaker 2: You know this camp with him, you know when the
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  Speaker 2: pads are on, and and his physicality and you know
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  Speaker 2: what he brings to that.
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  Speaker 3: Delon Doug Peterson, of course, Jaguar's head coach. Welcome back
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  Speaker 3: to The Doug Peterson Show, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logeman coach.
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  Speaker 3: Peterson will join us in studio again week one before
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars face the Colts on kickoff weekend. Devon Hamilton
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  Speaker 3: the topic there six for three hundred and thirty five pounds.
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  Speaker 3: It's his fourth year out of a Io State. He
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  Speaker 3: just got a big contract and he's last year certainly
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  Speaker 3: proved it and I think moving ahead so far in camp,
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  Speaker 3: he's been fantastic, flashing all over in those one on
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  Speaker 3: ones and and just a big body, as Doug said,
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  Speaker 3: they're a huge human being and not a big fat guy,
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  Speaker 3: like he's just a large body.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah he had, he had if you if you looked
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  Speaker 5: at the win rate. Okay, and this is not me,
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  Speaker 5: okay with them. I didn't create these numbers. It's from
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  Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus last year, which you know, we subscribe
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  Speaker 5: to that service and I follow it every week to
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  Speaker 5: see where the performances are of each player. From an
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  Speaker 5: analytics perspective, Devon Hamilton was the most successful pass rusher
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  Speaker 5: last year that the Jaguars had. He had the highest
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  Speaker 5: win rate of anybody, and at times he was being
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  Speaker 5: taken out as a pass rusher, and I think that
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  Speaker 5: those opportunities need to stay in his lap and he
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  Speaker 5: needs to be given that opportunity because he's winning. He's big,
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  Speaker 5: which won. Like Doug talks about how he pushes the pocket. Well,
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  Speaker 5: when guys pushed the pocket, it takes the quarterback off
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  Speaker 5: of that spot, which it makes it easier for other
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  Speaker 5: people now to get after the quarterback when he's not
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  Speaker 5: at that spot, you know, where he's in his comfort zone.
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  Speaker 5: And Von Hamilton is also incredibly stout and really good
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  Speaker 5: against the run. So I mean, what's not to like
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  Speaker 5: a guy that wins more than anybody that you have,
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  Speaker 5: but then also has the ability to stop the run.
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  Speaker 5: And look, I'm excited for him this year. I hope
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  Speaker 5: he gets the opportunity to rush the passer more because
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  Speaker 5: he is he in my mind, he earned it last
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  Speaker 5: year and he's continuing to show that he deserves the
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  Speaker 5: opportunity so far in training camp.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a lot of money going out on the
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  Speaker 3: interior of the defensive line, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and at some point something's gonna have to give.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Okay, Roy Robertson Harris got an extension, but I mean
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: not to the level that a Devon Hamilton got. Fatikassi
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: is on a pretty sizable contract in free agency, you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: but I think something's gonna have to change after this
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: year that you can't you know. And I know typically
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: when you sign a guy in free agency, most of
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: those deals are for two years and then after that
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: you can get out from underneath of them. So if
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Fodikasi wants to get to year three of the contract,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: he has to do more than what he did last
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: year for this organization. We're back in a moment.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: We'll hear from JAG's safety Andre Cisco. It's year three.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: He looks different on the field. What goes into it,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: how he plays and learns to play with more muscle mass,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: and much more from the third year safety has to
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Right now, We're back, JP Shaddick, Jeff Loghman.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: The Doug Peterson Show continues preseason week one coming up
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Saturday the Jaguars and the Dallas Cowboys. And earlier this week,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Logs had a chance to catch up with Andre Cisco,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: third year safety. A lot going on with him in
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: the offseason, and we kind of get into his head
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit too about facing this Jaguars offense every
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: day and how that helps both sides of the ball improve.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: His thoughts on that coming up. But yes, he's been
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: in the weight room this offseason.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it adds a little bit of confidence.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: Is not that you know you got the armor to
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: go in and get with the big guys and get
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: dirty like that. That's been the biggest thing I think,
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: adding from last year that I want to get more
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: physical on the field, just play to play.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: So yeah, it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Feels good this defense as a whole. What is the
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: what is the next step for this scroup?
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: It was an opportunistic group last year takeaways and key moments,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: especially down the stretch.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: But where can you guys make hay this year?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Overall?
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, we can get better. I'm gonna start with
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: the back end.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: We can get better just expecting passes and understand what's
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: coming on a certain down and distance to certain situations
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: and then take away a few plays a game and
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: you jump from last to first very easily in this
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: league when when you just kind of get on your
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: details and take away the ones that you should know
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: where's coming, make the routine plays routinely.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of new faces around here, at
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: least in the first team defense. Continuity can can build
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of that too, right when you have the
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: same group of guys and growing together.
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the biggest thing because
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: I know for me, me and Ray, we try to
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: get more creative. Now you know understand the defense and
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: certain things that have to happen on each player. You
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: could move guys around and still make it happen. So
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: just you know, they put in our hands and allow
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: us to have a little bit more freedom with that,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: and so it makes the defense more complex and harder
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: to read.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: How challenging is this wide receiver group to cover each
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: day and see running routes against you?
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Man, I love it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: I mean it's like it's really the best thing for you.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: I mean when you look at all the highlights from
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: other camps and them showing receivers, I'm like, it's not
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: the same, Like we got something different and going into
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: games like, it's just gonna make me that more patient,
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: that more confident, that much more confident, that much more comfortable.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: How different, I mean, what's so different about this group?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Just technically the way they run. I mean, you got
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: a bunch of fast guys.
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: Obviously fast guys everywhere, but these guys they know who
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: their quarterback is, they know what spots to get to,
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: they understand defense, and they work hard at their craft.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: You don't got a bunch of lazy guys that pick
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: plays and only go hardhen to get in the ball.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, they all go hard every play.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: So it keeps me on my toes in and make
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: sure I'm down on the balls over my head.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Another you mentioned the quarterback seeing him from the back end,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: how has he changed over the last couple of years,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: just reading and looking and his comfortability in the offense.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you can see that from the back end.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: And the challenge of you know, him trying to look
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you off all the time.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, very decisive, but like also doesn't make a lot
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: of bad decisions, so it's pretty hard to pick them off.
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie, but it makes it it's a
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: good challenge because I mean, you could be perfect gonna
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: play and in terms of maybe if he tried to
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: look you off, he's still in position, and he knows
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: not to throw it. You know, he knows when to
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: make those when to take those chances at the right time.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: So I mean, have a guy like that to practice
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: against and then to have him as your quarterback on
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: game day is a blessing for sure.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Andre.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: We've seen me before practice working on punk returns. When
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: was the last time you actually returned a punt? I
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: don't think you did in college.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Right, nah, high school, high school a little bit. But
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: for me, I mean, honestly, it's mostly about just making
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: myself comfortable being uncomfortable again in those positions of you know, returns,
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: one of the hardest things to do in the game,
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: and so I'm just making myself comfortable with tracking the
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: ball in that aspect. But but coach knows that I'm reliable,
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: so if it ever comes to it, I could get
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: back there fair catch some from how.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Much time do you need in Saturday's game? Just how
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: much would you like to have?
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, like, these opportunities are are few and
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: far far betweens at the right word, Yeah, they I mean, honestly,
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: NFL Game d is the NFL game Day. So for me,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go out there with the right mindset and
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: approach it like a game because you can't take it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: You can't take it for granted. I mean I've had
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: this is two years now. I still understand, like how
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: delicate these situations are. You still want to approach it
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: and be grateful to opportunity. So I'm gonna get there.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: If I get him, I'm gonna.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Work Andre Cisco, third year safety. Good to hear from him,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and yeah, he's a big piece obviously this defense on
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: the back end, I found it notable. Yeah, he's getting
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: some at least catching some punts early in practice just
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: to see it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: And he admitted it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, if they need a fair catch or something and
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: other guys are out, Hey, okay, maybe who knows you
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: don't want to go.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Catch only that's what he said. Yeah, that's what he said.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Hey, but he's bigger, he's seen it a few years now.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: You talked about his ball skills and his ability to
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: go up and get it. All that combining with experience
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: on top, this should be a big year for Andre
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Well and I hope he continues to just improve all
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: of his skills. You know, the ball skills are there,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: but playing safety is so much more and playing the
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: safety position, you've got an opportunity impact the game in
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: a big way by taking the ball away. And want
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: to see him get more opportunities. And also as a tackler,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I thought he made some pretty good strides last year.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: And in order to play that position. It's hard to
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: tackle when you're safety because you're attacking and you're typically
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: trying to tackle a guy in a pretty big area.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: So the ball carry has a lot of space. It's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: a little easier to tackle when you're a linebacker a
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: defensive lineman. You've got people in a constricted area. You've
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: typically got better angles when you're coming straight down the
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: hill from safety position. I mean, guys can give you
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: a little shake and go the opposite direction. That's not
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: easy to tackle. So I think he's gotten better in
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: that category. But I'm excited to watch. I mean, typically
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: most of the guys that end up playing in this league,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: when they get to like years three and four is
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: when you really start to see them blossom.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: You see a big.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Jump from year one to year two, but year three
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: is where they really get comfortable. And this is right
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: there at the sweet spot for Cisco. Sharp guy too.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's he's incredibly sure. He's a joy to
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: talk to. Yes, he's a joy to talk to and
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: smart guy. He's he's very aware. He is serious about ball,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: and he knows exactly what his game is, where it
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: needs to be, and what he talked about with Trevor about.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. It's incredibly hard to pick him off.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, Trevor is taking the leaps and bounds
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: as well in year three. Yeah, and that iron sharpens iron, right, Yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: I mean you hear that term a lot.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: Look, competitive competitive fire always makes the fire hotter. You know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: there's another way to say that. I mean, it's you
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: just love it. I mean, when you got excellent players
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: playing against each other, it rises their level of play.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: And that's the one thing about having a great roster.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: And then you know, look, I know that this is
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: next week, but next week, you know, when we you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars get the opportunity to go up and practice
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: against the Detroit Lions, you know we're going to see
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: a great opportunity that this team is going to have
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: up there as well, because as we look at you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: the people are saying, oh, do the Jaguars have a
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: pass rush as Trayvon Walker taking the next step?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Is Josh Dalen going to be able to do that?
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Is just hear.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Adula going to be able to be a good outside guy. Well,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: next week you're going to be facing two of the
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: best tackles in the National Football League that the Detroit
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Lions have. And that's gonna be another example of where
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: you're talking about, you know, the iron sharpening iron, great,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: great opportunity.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: When we return.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson on what the team got out of the
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: live practice Monday, Tackling to the Ground. This is the
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars Radio.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Welcome back The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I look at a little bit differently. I put the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: team in those situations because I I want to see
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: who's the mentally tough are a little bit and for
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the most part, everybody did a nice job. The ones
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: that you know got reps in there those two periods
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: that we went live, and it's good to see. You know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you don't do it a ton in training camp. But
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: it's also good for the defense to tackle. You know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: ball carriers need to understand, you know, you gotta protect
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the football when you get hit and things like.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: That, said coach Doug Peterson, of course, and welcome back
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: to the Doug Peterson Show. JP Shadwick with Jeff Flogoman.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: The Jaguars Saturday, Sunday, Monday worked in full pads three
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: days in a row, but the Monday practice included some
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: live periods, meaning tackling to the ground. Yes, protecting your
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: team still, but yeah, as Doug said, right there, log,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: you don't really throw those live periods out there too
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: often anymore. And you know, part of it is the
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: tackling part of it. You've got to improve in that area.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Certainly on the defensive side. But hey, can these guys
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: handle it? Can they handle the heat of it? I mean,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: it was a hot day on Sunday. It's been hot
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: all week, but certainly was on Monday. And then you
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: got teammates tackling you. Can they kind of keep their composure?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Can they get through the practice and improve as it goes?
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: And by all reports, and you heard the most important
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: one there, Doug Peterson say, hey, it went pretty well.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it went well.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: And what's the best thing about everything that's happened so
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: far is that everybody's staying healthy.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Would a particle would have something I don't know if
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: it's real, would I don't know. Anyway, it's got some
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: kind of material in theres That's why I was knocking
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: on it, because you want to make sure that everybody
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: stays healthy. In this team has been able to be
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: healthy for the most part, and you want to make
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: sure that that continues. And that's always a little bit
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: of a concern that you have a live drike, you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: do you risk injury? Well, there's always the risk of
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: injury playing football, whether you're in live contact or there's
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: not contact. It's just look it's just it's part of
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: the game, and so you hope that everybody has that
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: comes through it. Okay, and so far, so good for
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: this football team. And that's goal number one of the preseasons.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Get your work in and come out healthy. And it
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: was a demanding practice and you could tell that there
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: was a little bit of pushing and shoving, a little
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: extracurricular and a couple of drills. There was a couple
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: of fisticuffs thrown and one on one pass rusher, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: guess you could say, and it was in kind of
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a combination drill where he's like two on two pass
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: rush on one side of the line of scrimmage, where
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: DJ Coleman, a rookie from Missouri, ended up throwing some
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: fistic cuffs that were completely unnecessary. And I thought Phil
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Rauscher was going to grab.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Him and head butt him and and throw fist to
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: cuffs himself. But yeah, you know, you know, just a
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: real quick note on that. I mean, those things happened,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: But what you love to see when something like that
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: happens is a guy like Roy Robinson Harris grabbing the
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: rookie and talking to him and kind of explaining to
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: him how things are done and how things need to
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: be and what it's like to be a professional, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: what you just did is not that and one thing
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: for good to see.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: It's one thing for a coach to say that Rauscher
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: kicking him out or Brinson Buckner even who played a
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: long time.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: In this league.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: But when you're to your point, when a teammate's over
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: there saying it, it just hits home a little different.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: It does.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: And that's that's where you want to get, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: as a team and as an organization is look, leadership
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: is always starts at the top, and the messaging is
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: given at the top, but then it has to filter
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: through the locker room and through the players. And when
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: you have the players starting to police okay for lack
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: of a better term, or police the locker room to
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: make sure that okay, the culture is this okay and
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: what you just did doesn't fit our culture. When that
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: message comes from the players in the locker room itself,
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: that's when you know you have something that could be
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: really special. They won't have any more live practice, will
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: they just one day?
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Right? Probably not?
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Because you have well, I mean, you have practices against Detroit.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: You're you're probably not going to do anything live against them,
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: and then the last week, which is going into the
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Miami game. Okay, the best evaluation from here on out
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: is the games themselves, because that just doesn't compare. You know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: a live practice rep is not as good as a
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: live game rep.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: It's just different, much different.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: You know, the lights when the lights come on. I mean,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: that's that's what you want to evaluate. I mean, it's
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: you know, and game plans. You know, practice you're not.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: It's not like you're stressing again. You know, you're not
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: having game plans against other guys, and so the reps
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: that you're going to get, and there's going to be
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: a lot of reps for a lot of different guys
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: once you get past those front line guys. I think
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: it's going to be real interesting to see what they
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: do in that last preseason game against Miami. And I'm
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: also this next one. You know, we kind of know
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: what the plan is for this week, and then in
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Detroit you're going to be practicing against them for two days,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: So how much will you play your guys there? And
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: then for the last preseason game, which is now the
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: third and last preseason game, what's your approach going to
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: be there. I mean in the past, we've seen last
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: preseason games where some coaches don't play anybody. But you
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: have a two week window from the last preseason game
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: to the opener, so that may and some people's minds
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: change the way you would approach that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: And there's no roster cutdown until after that final game anymore.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: So you're not trimming that. You got all ninety guys all.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: The way through, which gives you the opportunity to continue
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: the evaluation process all the way through that third and
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: last preseason game.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Speaking of that third and last final preseason game, the
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Jaguars take on the Miami Dolphins at home. In that
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: game in a preseason matchup at Saturday, August twenty sixth
• 33:01
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• 33:08
  Speaker 3: We're back in a moment. Running Backs tanked Bigsby step
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: right up. It'll be a big day Saturday for the
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: rookie out of Auburn. We'll get into the Jaguars running
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: back room when we return. It's the Doug Peterson Show
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Welcome back the Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think you still gotta be careful
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: with how much you expand his role. I think he's
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: he's done a nice job, you know so far. There's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: still some learning to do and and some growing to
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: do as a you know, as a rookie. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: keeping him kind of where he is right now is
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  Speaker 2: a good thing, and expand maybe as you go. I
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  Speaker 2: don't you know, we're only two weeks in, you know,
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  Speaker 2: of camp, and you know there's a lot of football
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  Speaker 2: ahead of us. So we're just gonna pump the brakes
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  Speaker 2: and make sure he's you know, he'd go to what
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  Speaker 2: he can handle him.
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  Speaker 3: That's head coach Doug Peterson discussing Tank Bigsby Jaguars rookie
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  Speaker 3: running back and Welcome back to the Doug Peterson Show
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  Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 4: JP, Shadwick, Jeff Logman.
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  Speaker 3: Coach Peterson will join us in the studio again week
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  Speaker 3: one when the Jaguars face the Colts. This week it's
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: pre season week one, the Jaguars face the Cowboys. That's
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  Speaker 3: Doug right there, was talking about, hey, let's just let
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  Speaker 3: him play. We're not going to overload him with all
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  Speaker 3: these different ideas and things. Let's let's kind of step
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  Speaker 3: by step with Tank. But the steps so far, there's
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  Speaker 3: been moments on the practice field where he has flashed well.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the one thing that's flashed you go
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  Speaker 3: back to this weekend or early this week, I can't
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  Speaker 3: remember which it was, where he had a run and
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  Speaker 3: he broke through and nobody could catch him. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's the one thing I think that they think they
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  Speaker 3: don't think about with Tank.
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  Speaker 5: Bigsby for two reasons. One, he's a bigger back. His
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  Speaker 5: name doesn't imply that he's fast. I mean, his tanks
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: are not fast, right, but he literally is faster than
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  Speaker 5: ETN And most people say no, way, yes, way. He
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  Speaker 5: actually timed faster in the forty than Travis ETN.
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  Speaker 4: Which is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: Travis is very fast back, but Bigsby is fast, and
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  Speaker 5: he also has the subtle efficient moves to get in
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  Speaker 5: the hole. And that's what I love about him. I
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  Speaker 5: think there was and you've heard I think it was
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  Speaker 5: last week we were talking about Doug had this quote
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  Speaker 5: about patience, not speed to the hole, but through the hole, okay,
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  Speaker 5: And he was talking about ETN specifically, I think and
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  Speaker 5: that you know, be decisive and then hit it once
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  Speaker 5: you see it. And with Travis last year, he was
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  Speaker 5: trying to hit the hole fast to the whole. He
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: was fast, not through the hole. Well, Bigsby is just
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  Speaker 5: a little different, and so they're going to be great
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  Speaker 5: complimentary backs. And what I'm excited about too, and most
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  Speaker 5: people don't even think about this, is that what if
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  Speaker 5: you have both of these guys on the field at
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  Speaker 5: the same time. Well, that and out would allow you
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  Speaker 5: to have ETN split out. You know, the matchups that
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  Speaker 5: you could get on linebackers. And then you're also talking
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  Speaker 5: about two guys that are incredibly fast. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 5: a great opportunity for an offensive coordinator to be able
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  Speaker 5: to do creative things when you have that kind of personnel.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, they got a lot of talent on offense.
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  Speaker 5: I mean skill position wise. The running back room is deep,
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  Speaker 5: the wide receiver room is deep, the tight end group
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  Speaker 5: is I think solid as ever, You've got three legitimate
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  Speaker 5: receiving tight ends on this roster. Brenton Stranger, draft pick
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  Speaker 5: Evan Ingram obviously, and then Prince Prince has shown great
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  Speaker 5: things so far so I mean Press Taylor, Doug Peterson,
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  Speaker 5: Mike McCoy, Phil Rauscher, all these offensive coaches. They're going
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  Speaker 5: to have some fun with some game plans this year.
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  Speaker 5: One football. They go to spread it around well. And
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  Speaker 5: I think that you've got a really good group that's unselfish,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that's that was proven last year with
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  Speaker 5: the wide receiver group. And you've you've added one guy
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  Speaker 5: to that and some young players, and the young players
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: kind of follow a long suit, you know. And and
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley is a guy that I think is going
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  Speaker 5: to buy into that philosophy. And I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 5: how they deploy this multitude of weapons that they have
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  Speaker 5: on offense. We'll get our first, well little taste. It
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: won't be the full arsenal, but they'll be on the
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  Speaker 5: field playing football Saturday. We're not gonna see ETN and
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  Speaker 5: Bigsby on the field at the same time in this
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  Speaker 5: exotic formation with Calvin Ridley doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 5: We're not going to see that. I mean, all those
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  Speaker 5: things that they're going to have in their playbook and
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  Speaker 5: they're going to be able to unveil at some point,
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  Speaker 5: but that's not the preseason is not the place to
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  Speaker 5: have those plays. And I'm looking forward to watching what
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  Speaker 5: they do design, But right now, you want to see
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  Speaker 5: the meat and potatoes performances. What's the most basic run play,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: like a like a draw, handoff ISO something, just a
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: zone play, zone play. But look, you know, look, we're
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  Speaker 5: talking about a running back room and and I know
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: it's not sexy to talk about offensive lineman. It is
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: a little bit if one's a first round pick. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'm also looking forward to watching Cooper Hodges. Yes,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: you know Cooper Hodges. I think is is making some
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  Speaker 5: strides in camp, and he was a tackle at Appalachian State.
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  Speaker 5: He's a local kid, and I know he's got a
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  Speaker 5: fan base that's going to be natural. He and when
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  Speaker 5: I when I watch him, he has a level of
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  Speaker 5: strength that I don't know if anybody else at that
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  Speaker 5: guard position has really Yes, including.
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  Speaker 4: Name them all, Tyler Shatley.
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  Speaker 5: Shatley's pretty strong, but he doesn't have the anchor You've
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: said for.
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  Speaker 3: The decade, I know that that Tyler Shatley is the
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: strongest guy on the team literally a decade.
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  Speaker 5: I think in the weight room he's the strongest guy
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  Speaker 5: and he's still incredibly strong in year ten.
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  Speaker 4: I think it is right. And and but Cooper.
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  Speaker 5: Hodges, he's a he's broad shouldered, he's he's a natural,
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  Speaker 5: so he's not an inflated three hundred pound guy. He's
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: a natural, walking around three hundred pound guy. But he's
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: got a natural level of strength. And general manager has
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: given him a nickname that it just sticks in my mind,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: and that's Trent Balky obviously calls him tug boat.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's stuck with the fans.
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  Speaker 5: I have no idea where in the hell that came from,
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: but he's used that term with and it's just it's
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: stuck before practice, right when they're breaking out for stretch.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, he goes over in front of the grand stands
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: and gets the crowd fired up with his hands and
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  Speaker 3: then he does a cartwheel. Yeah, and then the lineman
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  Speaker 3: love it the whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's you know, and all that's fine and dandy,
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  Speaker 5: But what's going to excite me is the performance. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to watching him. And and this is
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  Speaker 5: a process. You know, he's a he's a young player
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  Speaker 5: that's playing a different position. He was a tackle at
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  Speaker 5: Appalachian State. I didn't think he had the feet, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: I don't think he has the feet to play tackle
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  Speaker 5: at this level. But I think he's got the disposition
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  Speaker 5: for sure, and he's got a level of strength to
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  Speaker 5: play guard. I think he's going to be a really
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: good football player at some point. That that may be
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  Speaker 5: a year down the road. Okay, two years down the road,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: but but that's a position that you draft and develop,
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: especially with a guy that's in the later rounds, and
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of people say, well, why are you getting
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  Speaker 5: excited about that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, man, because this might be your starting guard for
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: a decade, you know, in another year or two, and
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  Speaker 3: that's the reason to be excited, you know, so uh
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  Speaker 3: excited to watch him play against some other personnel. We're
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: back in a moment a preview of Saturday's matchup against
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. It's the Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars Radio.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
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  Speaker 2: Even the young guys from last year. You know, you
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: look at you know, Chad Muoman as a young second
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: year linebacker who's gonna get plenty of you know, plenty
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  Speaker 2: of time not only in pre season but the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: You look at the young secondary guys who are gonna
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: get a lot of opportunities this spring or this, uh,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: this this training camp that's encouraging, and it gives you
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: depth on special teams, you know, and there's some there's
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: some key roles there that we can fill. So I
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: think we're in a better position than we were your
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  Speaker 2: ago depth wise, and it'll be you know, it'll be
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: difficult at the end to make some challenging, you know, decisions.
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  Speaker 4: Said coach Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to The Doug Peterson Show, JP, Shadwick, Jeff
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  Speaker 3: Loghman Final a couple of minutes here. The Jaguars face
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys Saturday, five o'clock. We're on the air
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: on the network with countdown to kickoff at four. We'll
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: hear from Fred Taylor, We'll hear from a whole assortment
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: of folks. We're gonna hear from you logs. It'll be
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: over in Dallas. Call I will be, I will be.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm looking forward to that. Like I said earlier,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: it's a great venue, arguably the best in the National
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Football League. I mean, there's some other ones that I
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: really like too, but it's a this is a great,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: great venue. It's very classy, you know when you walk around,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: and I can tell you if we get something that's
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: similar to that in Jacksonville here in the future, is
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: gonna be amazing game changer, absolutely, big time, no doubt
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: about it. So the starters will get some time. We've
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: gone through that earlier. But hey, driver too for the offense.
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  Speaker 3: Get him out of the air, sip some Gatorade ice up,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: and I get ready for next week's practices. Well, you know,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not so quick to dismiss. Okay, let's just get
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: the start of reps and that it's over with. I mean,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: for me, you know, I really enjoy the preseason games
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: from the standpoint of I want to find out about
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: who the next corner is gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: That's what Doug was just talking about. The depth is there,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: let's see.
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  Speaker 5: It, Yes, And I want to find out how the
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: wide receiver group at that sixth spot kind of is
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: going to work out. I want to see Harris, Okay,
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: I want to see Tim Jones. They've got Austin. I mean,
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of guys that are showing some really
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: good things at that position. The safety position, Okay, are
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: you going to be able to keep five, you know?
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: And if you keep five, does that impact the cornerback position?
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: You see her Abdulah. I can't wait to watch him.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: He's wearing my old number, especial, So I'm kind of
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: a fan to begin with because he's got a great number.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: But I want to see how his lack of length
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: but his naturalness transfers into the National Football League?
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Did he pick it because of you?
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: No, you don't have any clue who I am, which
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: is totally five. Who doesn't know Jeff Flaghan Come on,
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: he doesn't, but he will soon. I'm gonna introduce myself
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: to him.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: To him still, Sue, get ready, you sere Thanks to
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Joe Fortunato on the audio reaver on the video Andre Cisco,
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: who joined us a little earlier this week, but the
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: full conversation on the Official Jaguars Podcast Network.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: For Jeff Flagman, I'm JP Shadrick. Catch you next on
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars Radio Network.