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Speaker 1: You know, when you pull a fire alarm, the truck's roll.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the social contract we all operate under, right, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's an expectation exactly. You pull that red lever, the
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Speaker 1: bells ring, and the fire department just points their trucks
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Speaker 1: and says, you know, there's the fire, let's go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's supposed to be this immediate system wide mobilization.
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Speaker 1: Right, sirens blaring, people moving fast. It's clean, it's a given.
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Speaker 1: But when a man named Terrence Williams vanished, that entire
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Speaker 1: system just sort of they just shrugged. Yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: the alarm was pulled and nobody came.
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Speaker 2: Which is well, it is the absolute definition of institutional apathy.
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Speaker 1: It really is.
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Speaker 2: Because we like to believe that when the worst happens,
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Speaker 2: you know, the safety net deploys without hesitation. But in
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Speaker 2: certain missing persons cases, and this is a prime example, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that safety net is intentionally dismantled.
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Speaker 1: Well, welcome to today's deep dive. We are so glad
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Speaker 1: you're here with us. Today. We are looking at a
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Speaker 1: case where the last person to see the victim alive
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Speaker 1: was literally a police officer, and we're going to look
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Speaker 1: at how a massive digital storytelling platform had to step
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Speaker 1: in when the badge failed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are examining the foundational details of the case
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Speaker 2: that captivated audiences globally.
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Speaker 1: We are, specifically, we're analyzing a highly influential thirty four
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Speaker 1: minute audio piece. This came out on August twenty, twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 1: and it's titled Wanted Answers from a Deputy.
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Speaker 2: And you know, we aren't just going to recite the
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Speaker 2: tragic timeline of Terrence Williams.
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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, We're going deeper than.
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Speaker 2: That, right, We are going to look under the hood.
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Speaker 2: We are examining the mechanics of the narrative itself. We
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Speaker 2: need to look at exactly how his story was categorized
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Speaker 2: and sidelined by local law enforcement and then directly contrasts
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Speaker 2: that with how it was elevated by modern digital storytellers.
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Speaker 1: Right, because if you've listened to True crime in the
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Speaker 1: last I don't know, five years or so, you definitely
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Speaker 1: know the platform we are talking about. Oh, absolutely, we
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Speaker 1: are talking about crime Junkie. You know, Ashley Flowers and
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Speaker 1: Britt Preywatt. They have build an absolute empire at the
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Speaker 1: Audio Check Network.
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Speaker 2: They really have. It's massive, but what we want.
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Speaker 1: To look at today isn't just their popularity, right, it's
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Speaker 1: the specific architecture of their deep dives.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how that format effectively bypassed local police to force
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Speaker 2: a global spotlight onto this exact disappearance.
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Speaker 1: Because well, the initial framing of any event sort of
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Speaker 1: dictates everything that follows, doesn't it It does.
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Speaker 2: It's the lens through which all subsequent facts are viewed.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: And to understand why a massive storytelling network had to
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Speaker 2: step in, we have to understand the void that local
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Speaker 2: authorities created in the first place.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So if the local precinct effectively puts a padlock
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Speaker 1: on the Terrence Williams file, I mean a vacuum is.
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Speaker 3: Created, and nature hates a vacuum exactly.
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Speaker 1: That void of information is exactly what paved the way
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Speaker 1: for civilian investigators. But let's look at how that padlock
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Speaker 1: was put on in the first place. So Terrence Williams
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Speaker 1: goes missing, right, and the immediate institutional reaction from law
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Speaker 1: enforcement was to categorize him as a quote low priority case.
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Speaker 2: Which is just it's a bureaucratic term that carries a
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Speaker 2: devastating human cost. It really does, because when a system
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Speaker 2: labels a human being as low priority. They are making
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Speaker 2: a conscious, calculated decision about resource allocation.
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Speaker 1: But hang on, let me I want to play Devil's
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Speaker 1: advocate here for a second and push back on this
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Speaker 1: a bit. Sure, go there, because you and I both
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Speaker 1: know the statistics. Adults do walk away from their lives.
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Speaker 1: I mean it happens, Yeah, they do. People run from
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Speaker 1: mounting debt, they you know, they run from bad relationships,
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Speaker 1: they flee legal trouble. So is it really that malicious
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Speaker 1: for a police department to assume the most statistically probable thing? First?
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Speaker 1: I mean, if an adult goes missing, isn't he probably
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Speaker 1: just took off a somewhat logical starting point for an
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Speaker 1: overwhelmed precinct.
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Speaker 2: So it is statistically common for adults to voluntarily leave. Yes,
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Speaker 2: but here's the danger with that. Okay, when police label
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Speaker 2: an adult a walk away or a low priority, it
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Speaker 2: isn't just an opinion for loading in the air like
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Speaker 2: it's a bureaucratic trip wire. The trip wire, Yeah, it
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Speaker 2: physically alters the machinery of the investigation.
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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, How so walk me through the mechanics of
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Speaker 1: that tripwire.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So think of it like freezing a credit card.
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Speaker 2: When a bank freezes your card, the machinery of the
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Speaker 2: financial system physically cannot process a transaction.
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Speaker 1: No matter how hard you try to swipe it.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. In a police department, the low priority label freezes
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Speaker 2: the investigative machinery. It instantly cuts off funding.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it denies detectives the ability to get fast track
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Speaker 2: search warrants for cell phone data, for.
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Speaker 1: Example, So they literally can't look at his phone records, right.
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Speaker 2: It stops the dispatch of search and rescue dogs. It
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Speaker 2: prevents helicopters from doing grid searches.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not just that they aren't looking very hard,
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Speaker 1: it's that the system physically won't allow them to use
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Speaker 1: the tools they need.
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Speaker 2: To look precisely. And the first forty eight hours of
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Speaker 2: a missing person's case, I mean, those are universally recognized
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Speaker 2: as the most critical window.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. We hear about the first forty all the time.
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Speaker 2: Right, because evidence degrades. Security camera footage at local gas
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Speaker 2: stations or intersections gets recorded over, usually within twenty four
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Speaker 2: to seventy two hours.
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Speaker 1: It just loops right over the old tape exactly.
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Speaker 2: Witnesses forget details. So if the working theory during that
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Speaker 2: critical window is that the person simply walked away. Those
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Speaker 2: vital early steps are just skipped entirely, which.
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Speaker 1: Means the initial assumption justifies.
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Speaker 2: The lack of action, right, and the lack of action
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Speaker 2: ensures that no contrary evidence is found.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, which creates this horrifying self fulfilling prophecy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't look for evidence of foul play
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Speaker 1: because he's a walk away, So they don't find evidence
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Speaker 1: of foul play, which then just proves to them that
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Speaker 1: he was a walk away all along.
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Speaker 2: Is a closed loop system of confirmation bias. Wow. And
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Speaker 2: to understand how deeply entrenched this bias was in the
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Speaker 2: Terrence Williams case, we have to look at the exact
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Speaker 2: language the authorities operated under here.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what was the language?
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Speaker 2: Their official stance was that they believe Terrence either quote
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Speaker 2: wanted or needed to disappear.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, I want to really unpack those two words,
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Speaker 1: wanted or needed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's look at them, because on the.
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Speaker 1: Surface they sound somewhat similar, you know, but psychologically they
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Speaker 1: do entirely different jobs.
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Speaker 3: For the police department, they do they do entirely different jobs.
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Speaker 2: Let's break down wanted First, saying someone wanted to disappear
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Speaker 2: implies a voluntary, autonomous choice.
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Speaker 1: Right, like they chose it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it paints a picture of a guy who simply,
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Speaker 2: you know, packed a duffel bag, bought a one way
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Speaker 2: bus ticket under a fake name, and decided to start
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Speaker 2: anew in another state.
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Speaker 1: Which is the ultimate absolution for the.
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Speaker 2: Police, absolutely, because if he wants to be gone, it's
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Speaker 2: not our job to find him.
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Speaker 1: Right. But the second half of that assumption, the part
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Speaker 1: that says he needed to disappear, I mean, that feels
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Speaker 1: so much darker to me.
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Speaker 2: It is significantly darker, and honestly, it's far more insidious
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Speaker 2: from an institutional.
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Speaker 1: Standpoint because it implies dane.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because saying an individual needed to disappear implies they
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Speaker 2: are fleeing a threat or perhaps running from a bad
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Speaker 2: circumstance of their own making. Oh, I say, it's a
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Speaker 2: just desperation, like maybe they owed the wrong people money,
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Speaker 2: maybe they were involved in something illicit.
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Speaker 1: So it subtly criminalizes the victim exactly, It casts a
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Speaker 1: shadow over him.
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Speaker 2: But notice what both of these words wanted and needed
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Speaker 2: have in common in this specific context.
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Speaker 1: Well, they both put the onus entirely on parents. They do,
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Speaker 1: they shift the burden of responsibility completely away from the
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Speaker 1: concept of a perpetrator.
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Speaker 2: Yes, assigning this specific motive to a missing person inherently
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Speaker 2: halts all investigative momentum.
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Speaker 1: Because if it's his fault, there's no bad guy to catch, right.
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Speaker 2: It completely removes the idea of a kidnapper, a murderer,
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Speaker 2: or any outside foul play from the equation entirely. It
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Speaker 2: places the responsibility for the disappearance squarely on the shoulders
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Speaker 2: of the.
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Speaker 1: Missing individual, which functions as an institutional execs used to
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Speaker 1: do absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is.
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Speaker 1: But here is where the glaring anomaly comes in because you,
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Speaker 1: you know, listening to this right now, you are probably thinking, Okay,
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Speaker 1: if he was just a guy who walked away from
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Speaker 1: his life, where was he last seen?
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Speaker 3: Right, like check the last location exactly?
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Speaker 1: Was he at a bus station? Was he at an airport?
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Speaker 1: And this is where the police department's walk away theory
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Speaker 1: crashes into a massive, highly suspicious roadblock. It really does,
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Speaker 1: because Terence wasn't alone, His last known location wasn't in hiding.
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Speaker 1: He was with a member of law enforcement. Yeah, specifically
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Speaker 1: Deputy Stephen Colkins.
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Speaker 2: And this single undeniable fact completely shatters the walk away theory.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the psychological and investigative whiplash of this detail
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Speaker 2: is just stounding.
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Speaker 1: It's insane. You're probably asking yourself, how does the last
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Speaker 1: known contact being a police officer not immediately trigger an
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Speaker 1: internal affairs probe?
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Speaker 2: Right, it should be automatic.
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Speaker 1: How does the precinct look at that detail and still
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Speaker 1: stamp the file low priority?
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Speaker 2: That is the terrifying contradiction at the heart of this
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Speaker 2: deep dive. The very institution that deemed Terrence's case low
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Speaker 2: priority is the exact same institution that employs the last
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Speaker 2: person to see.
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Speaker 1: Him alive, Which is just chilling.
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Speaker 2: It is we have to analyze the profound implications of
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Speaker 2: this because we are no longer just looking at a
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Speaker 2: missing person. We are looking at a potential systemic failure,
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Speaker 2: or worse, a systemic.
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Speaker 1: Cover up, because the details we were looking at explicitly
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Speaker 1: raise the question of whether this was just a random
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Speaker 1: disappearance or, as the source points out, a plotted out crime.
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Speaker 2: Let's focus on that phrase for a second, plotted out crime. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: because it suggests a level of premeditation that changes the
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Speaker 2: entire dynamic of the case.
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Speaker 1: Right, It's not spontaneous exactly.
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Speaker 2: If two civilians get into an altercation and one goes missing,
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Speaker 2: that's a tragedy. But if a deputy is involved and
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Speaker 2: it's a plotted out crime, that is a catastrophic abuse
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Speaker 2: of state power.
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Speaker 1: Let me stop you there, though, because I want to
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Speaker 1: make sure we are looking at all angles. Sure, is
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Speaker 1: it entirely impossible that it was just a coincidence. I mean,
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Speaker 1: a deputy pulls someone over, maybe gives them a warning
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Speaker 1: or a ride, drops them off, and then completely unrelated
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Speaker 1: to the deputy, that person chooses to walk away from
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Speaker 1: their life an hour later.
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Speaker 2: Well, is it mathematically possible. Yes, coincidences happen in law
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Speaker 2: enforcement all the time. However, when you are investigating a disappearance,
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Speaker 2: you do not start by assuming the most statistically improbable
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Speaker 2: coincidence is the truth.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good point.
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Speaker 2: You follow the immediate evidence and the anomaly in the
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Speaker 2: timeline here is the deputy. If a civilian was the
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Speaker 2: last person to see Terrence alive, that civilian would immediately
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Speaker 2: be brought in for questioning. Oh no, their vehicle would
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Speaker 2: be searched, their entire timeline would be scrutinized.
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Speaker 1: So when the last known contact is an authority figure
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Speaker 1: with a badge and a gun, how does that complicate
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Speaker 1: the low priority status?
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Speaker 2: It complicates it massively, right, So I have to.
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Speaker 1: Ask is the institutional apathy a result of a genuine,
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Speaker 1: albeit deeply flawed incompetence or is the apathy actually a
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Speaker 1: defense mechanism to protect one of their own.
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Speaker 2: And that, right there is the central tension of this
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Speaker 2: entire case. If we assume the apathy was genuine in competence,
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Speaker 2: it speaks to a catastrophic failure of basic investigative protocol.
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Speaker 1: Basically, they were just terrible at their jobs.
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Speaker 2: Right. It means detectives look at a timeline that ended
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Speaker 2: with a sheriff's cruiser just shrugged and said, nothing to
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Speaker 2: see here. But if it's not incompetence, right, if it's
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Speaker 2: not in competence, then we are entering the territory self preservation.
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Speaker 2: Because if the institution meant to protect a public is
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Speaker 2: instead circling the wagons to protect a deputy who potentially
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Speaker 2: committed a plotted out crime, then the low priority label
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Speaker 2: isn't just a bureaucratic mistake.
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Speaker 1: No, It becomes something else entirely.
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Speaker 2: It is an active, weaponized obstruction of justice.
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Speaker 1: Wow, it's basically using red tape as a shield exactly
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Speaker 1: because they didn't have to aggressively hide evidence or burn
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Speaker 1: files or intimidate witnesses if they just made sure and
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Speaker 1: no one was authorized to look for the evidence in
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Speaker 1: the first place.
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Speaker 2: That's the terrifying brilliance of it. The inaction is the action.
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Speaker 2: The juxtaposition of the low priority label against the fact
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Speaker 2: that he was last seen with Deputy Hawkins creates a
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Speaker 2: massive vacuum of public trust.
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Speaker 1: It totally shatters it.
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Speaker 2: When the official channels fail so spectacularly to address the
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Speaker 2: obvious contradiction, the community is left completely in the dark.
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Speaker 1: And like we said earlier, nature hates a vacuum. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Because the official investigation was basically suffocated by its own bureaucracy,
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Speaker 1: Terrence's story had to be championed by outside voices.
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Speaker 2: Because if the system won't tell the story, someone else has.
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Speaker 1: To exactly, And that brings us to what I think
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Speaker 1: is the most fascinating mechanical shift in this entire deep dive.
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Speaker 1: The medium itself.
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Speaker 2: Oh, this is so important. This is where we have
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Speaker 2: to look at the format as closely as we look
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Speaker 2: at the facts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not just a story, it's how the
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Speaker 1: story was delivered.
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Speaker 2: We have to examine who stepped into the void and
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Speaker 2: how they weaponized modern media to bypass the local police entirely.
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Speaker 2: This represents a fundamental shift in how justice is pursued
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Speaker 2: in the digital age.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get into it. The narrative of Terrence
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Speaker 1: Williams was packaged and broadcast by Crime Junkie, which, as
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Speaker 1: we know, is hosted by Ashley Flowers and Brit Prowot,
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Speaker 1: and the details of this specific broadcast reveal an incredibly
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Speaker 1: sophisticated approach to storytelling and honestly advocacy. So let's look
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Speaker 1: at the actual architecture of this audio file based on
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Speaker 1: our sources. Let's do it first, up the run time.
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Speaker 1: It is exactly thirty four minutes long.
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Speaker 2: And that thirty four minute runtime is not an accident.
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Speaker 1: Really, you think it's that calculated?
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Speaker 2: Oh, it is highly intentional. It is deeply rooted in
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Speaker 2: the psychology of modern media consumption.
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Speaker 1: Why thirty four minutes though? Why not a massive, you know,
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Speaker 1: ten part forty hour investigative series like we see so
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Speaker 1: often in true crime.
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Speaker 2: Well, it comes down to the friction of commitment.
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Speaker 1: Friction of commitment, okay, explain.
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Speaker 2: That if you ask a casual listener to commit to
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Speaker 2: a forty hour deep dive into a case they've literally
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Speaker 2: never heard of, you lose a massive percentage of your
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Speaker 2: potential audience right at the door.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense to daunting exactly.
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Speaker 2: The thirty four minutes that is the absolute sweet spot
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Speaker 2: of the average commute. Oh wow, it's the exact link
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Speaker 2: of a treadmill run or a dog walk.
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Speaker 1: So it removes the barrier to entry entirely exactly.
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Speaker 2: Ashley and britt are showing an incredible ability to distill
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Speaker 2: a highly complex, frustrating case, one involving jurisdictional loopholes and
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Speaker 2: messy timelines, into a concentrated, impactful dose of information.
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Speaker 1: Right they trim all the fat.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it respects the listener's time while maximizing the emotional
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Speaker 2: and factual impact. It basically ensures that the maximum number
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Speaker 2: of people actually finish the story.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of maximizing the audience, there is another structural
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Speaker 1: detail from our source that is absolutely crucial here. What's
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Speaker 1: that this content is explicitly rated?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I find that detail particularly noteworthy, especially given the
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Speaker 2: subject matter.
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Speaker 1: It's wild, right, We are discussing a case that potentially
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Speaker 1: involves a corrupt deputy, a plotted out crime, and a
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Speaker 1: man vanishing without a trice.
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Speaker 2: The underlying themes are dark. They're terrifying and deeply troubling.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, objectively, it's not a clean subject at all.
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Speaker 2: No, it's not. But the presentation is rated clean, and
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Speaker 2: we need to explain how a clean rating mechanically impacts
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Speaker 2: the distribution of a story.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's break that down for the listener, because it's
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Speaker 1: not just about you know, not swearing right right.
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Speaker 2: In the digital audio space, platforms like Apple Podcasts or
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Speaker 2: Spotify have incredibly strict algorithmic filters. Okay, if an episode
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Speaker 2: is flagged as explicit, do it a graphic language, excessive violence,
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Speaker 2: or gratuitous descriptions, those platforms will actively suppress it in
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Speaker 2: certain search results.
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Speaker 1: Really, they just hide it pretty much.
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Speaker 2: It won't be recommended on the front page. Advertisers might shy.
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Speaker 1: Away front So by keeping the language and the descriptions clean,
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Speaker 1: they are essentially hacking the algorithm to prioritize Terrence's story.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it bypasses the explicit content filters that would otherwise
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Speaker 2: suppress the reach.
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Speaker 1: That's incredibly smart it is.
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Speaker 2: And furthermore, it completely removes the social friction of sharing.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by social friction.
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Speaker 2: Well, think about it. If a piece of media is clean,
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Speaker 2: you can play it in a car with younger passengers.
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Speaker 2: Oh right, you can listen to it out loud in
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Speaker 2: a shared office space or you know, a kitchen. You
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Speaker 2: don't have to put headphones on to hide it.
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Speaker 1: So it basically turns every single listener into a potential
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Speaker 1: broadcaster for.
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Speaker 2: The story exactly. It is a strategic mechanical choice to
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Speaker 2: ensure the story travels as far as humanly possible.
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Speaker 1: And it absolutely traveled. I mean, the global reach of
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Speaker 1: this thirty four minute audio piece is staggering. Based on
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Speaker 1: our source, we are talking about availability in dozens and
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Speaker 1: dozens of countries, amazing, from Argentina to Vietnam, from Burkina
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Speaker 1: Fasso to South Korea, from the United Era of Emirates
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Speaker 1: to New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: Which forces us to ask a really important question about
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Speaker 2: human psychology here.
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Speaker 1: What's that?
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Speaker 2: Why does a deeply local case a disappearance involving a
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Speaker 2: specific deputy in a specific county in the United States
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Speaker 2: resonate with a listener in Kazakhstan er Senegal.
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Speaker 1: Right, because the listener in Vietnam has absolutely no jurisdictional
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Speaker 1: power over a Florida sheriff's apartment, So why do they
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Speaker 1: even care?
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Speaker 3: Because the themes are universal, universal themes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fear of a corrupt authority figure is not
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Speaker 2: an American phenomenon. No, not at all. The frustration of
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Speaker 2: an unresponsive bureaucratic system that treats human beings as low
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Speaker 2: priority is something people experience globally.
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Speaker 1: That's very true.
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Speaker 2: The tragic mystery of a person vanishing into thin air
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Speaker 2: resonates across literally every culture. Crime junkie taps into a
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Speaker 2: global empathy.
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Speaker 1: Wow, so it's empathy versovice apathy exactly.
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Speaker 2: It takes the extreme apathy of the local law enforcement
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Speaker 2: and directly contrasts it with the extreme empathy of a
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Speaker 2: worldwide audience.
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Speaker 1: They mobilize their listeners, and this isn't just passive listening. Right.
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Speaker 1: The source material mentions a fan club, indicating a deeply engaged,
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Speaker 1: active community. Their active Ashley Flowers and Britt pray Watt
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Speaker 1: have built this massive platform by creating a space where
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Speaker 1: the audience feels like they are an active part of
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Speaker 1: the investigative process.
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Speaker 2: They're essentially crowdsourcing awareness right. Think about it. When local
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Speaker 2: authorities deemed Terrence Williams a low priority, they were trying
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Speaker 2: to contain the.
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Speaker 3: Story it quiet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were putting it in a cardboard box and
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Speaker 2: shoving it onto a dusty shelf and a precinct basement.
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Speaker 1: Out of sight, out of mind.
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Speaker 2: But this digital medium takes that box, rips it open,
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Speaker 2: and broadcasts the contents to almost every country on Earth.
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Speaker 2: It absolutely obliterates the local containment strategy.
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Speaker 1: Which brings me to the detail that I find absolutely
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Speaker 1: fascinating In the source.
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Speaker 3: Text, Oh the phone number, Yes, Because.
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Speaker 1: It's one thing to broadcast a story, it's another thing
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Speaker 1: entirely to change the communication model of an investigation. Write
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Speaker 1: in the notes for this piece, Ashley Flowers provides a
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Speaker 1: direct phone number, Yeah wild. The number is three one
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Speaker 1: seven seven three three seven four eighty five, and the
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Speaker 1: prompt is for fans to text her directly to quote
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Speaker 1: talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates
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Speaker 1: and more.
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Speaker 2: That is a remarkable, highly disruptive piece of the puzzle.
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Speaker 1: Disruption is the perfect word for it.
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Speaker 2: We really need to unpack what that actually means for
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Speaker 2: the true crime landscape.
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Speaker 1: Think about the massive contrast here. The police department has
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Speaker 1: shut its doors. They were answering questions about Terrence Williams,
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Speaker 1: they weren't holding press conferences. The institution was a brick wall,
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Speaker 1: totally silent. So these podcast hosts step in and literally
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Speaker 1: give out a number to text them directly. It's the
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Speaker 1: ultimate democratization of an investigation.
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Speaker 2: It fundamentally rewires the power dynamic. How so well, historically,
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Speaker 2: if you, you know, the public cared about a cold case,
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Speaker 2: what were your options?
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Speaker 1: You'd call crime stoppers or some.
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Speaker 2: Right, you had to call a sterile police tip line,
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Speaker 2: You had to navigate some automated menu, leave a voicemail
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Speaker 2: in the void, and just hope that a detective eventually
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Speaker 2: bothered to listen to it and call.
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Speaker 1: You back, which they probably wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: Right. It was a one way street, controlled entirely by
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Speaker 2: the very authorities who might have botched the case to begin.
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Speaker 1: With, a system that had already prosen via the low
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Speaker 1: priority label that it simply did not care.
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Speaker 2: Right, But by offering a direct text line, the hosts
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Speaker 2: are creating what we call parasocial intimacy.
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Speaker 1: Oh, parasocial intimacy. Let's unpack that term for a second
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Speaker 1: for the listener. Sure, parasocial intimacy meaning the listener feels
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Speaker 1: like they are genuine, real life friends with Ashley and
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Speaker 1: Britt even though they have never actually met them. It's
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Speaker 1: a one sided relationship that feels two sided exactly.
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Speaker 2: It weaponizes friendship for advocacy.
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Speaker 1: Wow, weaponizes friendship?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you text that number, you don't feel
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Speaker 2: like you are submitting a tip to a FACOS bureaucracy.
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Speaker 2: You feel like you are texting your friend about a
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Speaker 2: case you are both actively working on. The hosts are
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Speaker 2: signaling to the audience the official lines of communication are
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Speaker 2: broken and corrupt, but our line is open. We are
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Speaker 2: in this together.
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Speaker 1: But I want to push back on the ethics and
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Speaker 1: the reality of that for a moment.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear.
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Speaker 1: It, because how does that change the way the public
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Speaker 1: consumes human tragedy? I mean, does this parasocial intimacy, this
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Speaker 1: feeling that you are directly texting the person leading the charge,
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Speaker 1: does it actually make the audience more demanding of real
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Speaker 1: world justice? Or does it risk turning a very real,
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Speaker 1: very horrific human tragedy into like interactive entertainment.
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Speaker 2: And that, right there is the delicate, often deeply uncomfortable
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Speaker 2: tight rope of the true crime genre.
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Speaker 1: It really is.
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Speaker 2: They're valid arguments on both sides. On one hand, providing
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Speaker 2: that level of access mobilizes an absolute army.
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Speaker 3: Of advocates, right, people who care.
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Speaker 2: These are people who will share the story on social media.
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Speaker 2: They'll keep Terrence's name trending in the algorithms and put
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Speaker 2: relentless public pressure on officials who thought this case was
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Speaker 2: long forgotten. So that's effective, highly effective. It forces a
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Speaker 2: level of accountability that the police never ever anticipated.
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Speaker 1: It keeps the spotlight on no matter what. But on
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Speaker 1: the other hand, on.
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Speaker 2: The other hand, a text line designed to talk all
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Speaker 2: things true crime inherently blurs the line between a serious,
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Speaker 2: solemn investigative effort and community engagement. For a media brand's
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Speaker 2: business model.
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Speaker 1: Ah right, it's still a business exactly.
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Speaker 2: It turns the listener into a participant in a way
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Speaker 2: that is incredibly powerful but also undeniably commodified. It packages
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Speaker 2: the tragedy, It.
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Speaker 1: Does package it. But when you look at the specific
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Speaker 1: context of Terrence Williams, I mean a man deemed a
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Speaker 1: walk away whose case was basically phrasen by bureaucracy, who
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Speaker 1: vanished into thin air after being seen with Deputy Culkins.
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Speaker 1: You have to ask the brutal question, what other option
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Speaker 1: was there?
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Speaker 2: And that is the ultimate justification for this medium.
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Speaker 1: It has to be.
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Speaker 2: If the official channels are a dead end, the only
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Speaker 2: way forward is to build an entirely new road. Yes,
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Speaker 2: and a thirty four minute, clean rated globally distributed audio
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Speaker 2: file with a direct text line is a very very
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Speaker 2: powerful road.
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Speaker 1: It completely bypasses the traditional gatekeepers. I mean law enforcement
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Speaker 1: assumed Terrence Williams wanted or needed to disappear, and they
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Speaker 1: comfortably assumed his story would disappear right alongside him.
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Speaker 2: But they did not anticipate the digital age, No they did.
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Speaker 2: They did not anticipate the story being downloaded in dozens
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Speaker 2: of countries by a highly mobilized, highly empathetic fan base
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Speaker 2: that simply refuses to let the narrative.
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Speaker 1: Die, which is incredible. We have covered a lot of
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Speaker 1: ground today, I mean, from the moment the fire alarm
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Speaker 1: was disconnected to the moment a global community started ringing
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Speaker 1: the bell themselves, it's been quite a journey, it really has.
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Speaker 1: We started by looking at the tragic disappearance of Terrence
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Speaker 1: Williams and the deeply frustrating, mechanically destructive low priority label
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Speaker 1: slapped on his case by local law enforcement.
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Speaker 2: Built on the highly dangerous victim blaming assumption that he
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Speaker 2: simply wanted or needed to walk away from his life,
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Speaker 2: which effectively served as a bureaucratic trip wire to halt
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Speaker 2: any real search before it even began.
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Speaker 1: And from there we unpacked the glaring anomaly in the timeline,
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Speaker 1: the revelation that his last known contact was with Deputy
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Speaker 1: Stephen Culkin.
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Speaker 2: Yeah the roadblock.
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Speaker 1: We explored how this single fact shattered the walkaway theory,
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Speaker 1: forcing us to really question whether the systemic apathy was
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Speaker 1: catastrophic incompetence or a deliberate shield to cover up a
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Speaker 1: plotted out crime.
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Speaker 2: And finally, we analyzed the medium as the message. We
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Speaker 2: look at how modern storytellers like Ashley Flowers and brit
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Speaker 2: Preywatt utilized deeply strategic formats thirty four minute run times
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Speaker 2: for commutes, clean ratings to hack algorithms, and direct text
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Speaker 2: lines to build parasocial intimacy to shine a blinding global
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Speaker 2: light on cases that local systems actively tried to bury.
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Speaker 1: It really makes you rethink the entire structure of how
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Speaker 1: we pursue the truth. When the institutions fail.
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Speaker 2: It definitely changes the landscape.
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Speaker 1: Before we wrap up this deep dive, what is the
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Speaker 1: one thing you want the listener to take away from
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Speaker 1: all of this?
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Speaker 2: I want you to sit with this final thought long
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Speaker 2: after you finished listening. If a missing person is deemed
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Speaker 2: a low priority because authorities lazily assume they simply needed
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Speaker 2: to disappear, what does it take for a heavily guarded
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Speaker 2: bureaucratic system to finally admit that perhaps someone made them disappear.
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Speaker 1: That's a haunting question.
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Speaker 2: And if the official channels refuse to look into the shadows,
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Speaker 2: are civilian storytellers and their audience is now the last
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Speaker 2: best line of defense for the missing.
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Speaker 1: If the system disconnects the alarm, someone else has to
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Speaker 1: start ringing the bell. Thanks for joining us on this
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Speaker 1: deep dive. Keep asking questions