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  Speaker 1: to talk Philly sports in general. But this week here
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the Philadelphia Eagles, the offseason, the upcoming
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We've got the one and only John Jansen.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, Buddy, I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a very interesting draft for the Eagles too,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different moves maneuvers that could be made. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's an interesting one, especially coming off Super Bowl. It's
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  Speaker 2: very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it definitely is. Look this past week on the podcast, John,
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  Speaker 1: my co host Eric and I we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: how we're feeling about this Eagles team and organization heading
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  Speaker 1: into this draft, and for us, there seems to be
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  Speaker 1: this sort of sense of calm about where this team
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  Speaker 1: is at right now heading into the draft, and that
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  Speaker 1: Howie Roseman may be playing with house money having so
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  Speaker 1: many draft picks over these next two years. So my
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  Speaker 1: co host Eric was actually talking about how he could
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  Speaker 1: see how we packaging basically some picks to really make
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  Speaker 1: a significant trade in this draft, perhaps maybe for an
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  Speaker 1: established pass rusher. Wanted to get your overall thoughts about
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  Speaker 1: this particular idea of this concept because it is floating
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  Speaker 1: around out in the world of Eagles Nation, and also
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  Speaker 1: how would you assess where the Eagles are at right
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  Speaker 1: now heading into this draft. What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about flexibility, and I think that's what
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  Speaker 2: Eric was trying to get to. It's flexibility of can
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  Speaker 2: we use these draft picks to just use the draft
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  Speaker 2: picks right by the way, you don't want to use
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  Speaker 2: as many as they have, but also can you use
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  Speaker 2: it to package for a player to move up, or
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  Speaker 2: could you package it for just to move up even
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  Speaker 2: a couple of spots in the draft. It's all about
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  Speaker 2: flexibility for Howie Rosman, and I feel like he's done
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  Speaker 2: a very good job at that he's been able to
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  Speaker 2: move up for some of the high end draft picks.
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  Speaker 2: He's been able to move up in the second round
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  Speaker 2: as well. So I think that's where Howie Roseman is
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  Speaker 2: coming from. Can I get all these draft picks and
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  Speaker 2: can I use them in ways where I can get
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  Speaker 2: Aj Brown like you did a few years ago? Or
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  Speaker 2: can I package to move up just a couple of
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  Speaker 2: picks just to get somebody that we think is very
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  Speaker 2: talented and all that has worked out very well. So
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  Speaker 2: I think yes, it is the flexibility of going we
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  Speaker 2: can do whatever we want, whenever we want. And the
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  Speaker 2: good thing is too that he has so many good
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  Speaker 2: players now that you don't have to have like this
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  Speaker 2: huge influx of talent. You can go maybe we just
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  Speaker 2: need that one guy or a couple of guys. It's
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  Speaker 2: not we don't need eight players to just in our
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  Speaker 2: roster be very good. We just need one or two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And that's where the flexibility comes in that can we
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  Speaker 2: get it through a trade or can we get it
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  Speaker 2: to move up in the draft and to get it
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  Speaker 2: in that way? And I think that's a very very
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  Speaker 2: good spot to be and that's what happens when you
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  Speaker 2: drafts well throughout the past like three to four years
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  Speaker 2: as they have.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, folks. John is on Fox Sports Phillies The Gambler.
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  Speaker 1: about the world of Philly sports. John, tell everybody where
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find me at J Jansen thirty four,
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  Speaker 2: just a very very talented group.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely well. Moving along with the conversation here, John,
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  Speaker 1: I think most of us have a pretty good feeling
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  Speaker 1: that the Eagles will draft a safety at some point
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  Speaker 1: here for the future. SCJ. Gardner Johnson is no longer
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  Speaker 1: on this teams. We all know, and you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: not too sure how much we can trust the current
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  Speaker 1: depth at this position. It's definitely a question mark coming
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  Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season. What
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on where the Eagles are at from
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  Speaker 1: the safety position standpoint and what they may do come draft.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's the very interesting one because they
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  Speaker 2: have moved on from a lot of positions or a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good players at some positions. But you go, okay,
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  Speaker 2: there's somebody in waiting in the wings. You know, there
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  Speaker 2: is somebody that they have drafted that they fear really
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  Speaker 2: confident about. The thing with CJ. Gunnar Johnson is they
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  Speaker 2: let him go and it's okay, here's Sidney Brown. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think even with the Eagles front office there
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  Speaker 2: is a lot of confidence that Sidney Brown is like
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  Speaker 2: a plug and play player. I think there's mostly you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to try and figure out can we
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  Speaker 2: get it through the draft or is that a position?
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen this a lot with Harry Roseman. We
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen it recently because at running back, he didn't
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  Speaker 2: pay a lot for running back. But then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, Seguan Barkley was available and he got Saquon
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  Speaker 2: and also Zach Bond was like a revelation. Nobody Knewson
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  Speaker 2: was going to be the player that he was, So
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's a position. They already have Red Blankenship there,
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  Speaker 2: they have Quinyon Mitchell, they have gotten cornerbacks through free agency,
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  Speaker 2: they have Cooper de Gene. So maybe that is a
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  Speaker 2: position that they go. You know what, there's not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stock in there. Maybe a second third round
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  Speaker 2: pick at the most or even later to get a
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  Speaker 2: position a player at that position there. But that could
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  Speaker 2: be one. We've seen Howard you do that before where
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  Speaker 2: he kind of punts at it and go, this isn't
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  Speaker 2: a position of value. We can plug in Sidney Brown
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  Speaker 2: and maybe a cast of characters and we will be
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  Speaker 2: fine because we have already drafted very well at some
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  Speaker 2: other positions in the secondary, and I kind of have
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  Speaker 2: a feeling that's where he's gonna go there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, very interesting for sure. And as we're moving along
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  Speaker 1: with Eagles draft talk here and how it may impact
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  Speaker 1: potential trade. Who knows what is going to happen, but
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of discussion, a lot of talk this
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  Speaker 1: offseason John about how the Eagles may just trade Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Goddard and the rationale would be to free up some
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  Speaker 1: cap space. The cap concerns that are there for the
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  Speaker 1: few future as Howie and company looks to extend younger
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  Speaker 1: and more dominant players in the future. And honestly, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure that this really would be the best idea
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  Speaker 1: for this Eagles offense in particular, Sure Dallas Goddard, he
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  Speaker 1: is often injured. It is extremely annoying when he is
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  Speaker 1: out for a few games here and there. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure hindsight kind of being twenty twenty here, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure the Eagles win the Super Bowl with Grant Calcatara,
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  Speaker 1: And if he's not on this Eagles offense, there's a
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  Speaker 1: case to be made that Dallas Goddard, if he wasn't here,
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  Speaker 1: could potentially be a weaker offense. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I could be completely wrong in this. You know, it's subjective.
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  Speaker 1: I think this topic. What are your thoughts, John, when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to this particular offseason storyline, what Dallas Goddard
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  Speaker 1: gives to this team and if he should be traded?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think it takes anything away from
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  Speaker 2: cal Katara. I thought he was a very good receiving
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  Speaker 2: tight end. He doesn't block very well, but he role
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  Speaker 2: as a backup tight end, especially when Goddard was out.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was very good and I thought he
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  Speaker 2: did a great job doing that. But Goddard definitely gives
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  Speaker 2: him a lot more. And it's the same thing that
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  Speaker 2: we've seen, like before the draft, is when they want
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  Speaker 2: to do it, maybe something happens during the draft or
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  Speaker 2: got it is a part of a big trade. I
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  Speaker 2: just don't see that happening. If they thought that Goddard
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  Speaker 2: should have been moved, and maybe there is something within
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  Speaker 2: the salary cap that I'm not seeing, But if they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to move him, I think it would have been
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  Speaker 2: very recently. They would have moved them along with CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Gunner Johnson. They were trying to, in my opinion, get
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  Speaker 2: ready for the draft. They were trying to get ready
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  Speaker 2: so we could have a million draft picks whatever I
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  Speaker 2: think they have, like twenty whatever. It is an insane
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  Speaker 2: amount of draft picks and just to be like, we
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  Speaker 2: have the flexibility to do something. So if they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to trade Goddard and get draft picks and trade him
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  Speaker 2: away so they can have this flexibility, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: they would have done it. I feel like they are
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  Speaker 2: keeping him on there because they aren't sure if they
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  Speaker 2: can get that tight end to replace him, because they
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  Speaker 2: know if there was somebody waiting in the wings, if
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  Speaker 2: they felt good about the tight end position, they probably
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  Speaker 2: would have gone with Grant kal Katara and moved on
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  Speaker 2: from from Dallas Goddard. The reason why they could have
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  Speaker 2: moved on from CJ. Gunar Johnson because well, they just
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  Speaker 2: got two cornerbacks, two players in the secondary in last
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  Speaker 2: year's draft that are rookies on a rookie deal that
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  Speaker 2: still have three years left that they can go. You
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  Speaker 2: know what, I feel confident in Kooperter Jean and Quinnon,
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  Speaker 2: Mitchell and read Blank and Ship that we should be fine.
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  Speaker 2: We have spent enough in that position that we can
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  Speaker 2: let a player like CJ. Gunder Johnson go. I don't
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  Speaker 2: feel like they feel that confident that, Okay, we can
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  Speaker 2: let Dallas Gotter go and we'll be fine with Grant
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  Speaker 2: cal Katara. I do feel like they are trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure that out. If something arises and they can maybe
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  Speaker 2: trade Dallas Goddard, I'm sure that they are open to
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  Speaker 2: that possibility, but I don't think at this point they
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  Speaker 2: have gotten that, and I think they are maybe going
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  Speaker 2: to to the position of maybe we should keep Dallas
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  Speaker 2: gott It maybe it's not worth trading him away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you made a really good point about Grant Calcatara,
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  Speaker 1: very serviceable backup. The guy can catch the ball, he
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  Speaker 1: can get yards after the catch. But in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the blocking, my gosh, how many times did we see
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  Speaker 1: how we would just either whiff not understand his blocking schemes.
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  Speaker 1: And that is a problem in this particular Ele And I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Give him credit. Smooth pass catcher, very smooth pask. I've
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  Speaker 2: been so surprised. So I've seen him in SMU in
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma and especially SMU because he had a head injury
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  Speaker 2: and he was maybe going to be out of playing
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  Speaker 2: football in general. But you could tell throughout his career
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  Speaker 2: and especially at SMU on his last year that he
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  Speaker 2: played in college like he was a smooth pass catcher
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  Speaker 2: and it worked its way through the NFL. But he's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit undersize, he's not a good blocker, and
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  Speaker 2: there's just too many i think faults there to make
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  Speaker 2: him the number one guy at that position.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you make a great point, John. Absolutely well. As
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  Speaker 1: we're moving along here, we also want to look at
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  Speaker 1: some other NFL teams, and we're certainly gonna be getting
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  Speaker 1: into the NFC East in a little bit here. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, every draft, we look at the top few picks,
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  Speaker 1: what is gonna happen and how that translates into what
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  Speaker 1: other teams are gonna be doing, including what the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Eagles may be doing at the number thirty two picks.
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  Speaker 1: But when we look at some of the other teams
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  Speaker 1: in this draft, how they're gonna start building their teams
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  Speaker 1: for the future. Let's talk about a few and what
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  Speaker 1: they may do in the first round of the draft.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to get into your thoughts, John about the Titans,
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  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and of course the New York Giants,
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  Speaker 1: the top three teams in this draft. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: the Titans and their first overall pick in the draft.
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  Speaker 1: What direction do you think they're gonna be going.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna have to be quarterback. And at this
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  Speaker 2: point I am I'm very much a Shuder guy, and
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about him, I guess in the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of picks. Yeah, but Schador is a very polished passer.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he really fits in the NFL. It
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  Speaker 2: is hard to pass up on the tools that Kim
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  Speaker 2: Ward has and the kind of arm strength and arm
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  Speaker 2: talent that he has, and he has shown some next
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  Speaker 2: level throws in college. It's all stuff that should translate
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  Speaker 2: to the NFL in the same way though that you
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  Speaker 2: saw Caleb Williams. And I'm still a big Kleb Williams guy,
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  Speaker 2: but it might take some time. But for Tennessee, though,
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  Speaker 2: it is hard to pass up on a guy that
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  Speaker 2: seems to have a lot of the physical tools that
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  Speaker 2: cam Ward does and also was able to apply those
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  Speaker 2: tools in Miami, which is like a step up from
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  Speaker 2: Washington State, a step up, a step up from Incarnate Word,
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  Speaker 2: but like Miami was an operation where he had to
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  Speaker 2: maybe step up his game a little bit, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like he met all of that criteria. So cam
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  Speaker 2: Ward would have to be for Tennessee the guy you
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  Speaker 2: can't pass up on, somebody that you think with all
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  Speaker 2: the physical tools and somebody again in college that has
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  Speaker 2: shown progression throughout his career to say, nah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's the guy that's gotta be the guy
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: At number one, all right? Number two is the Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: Browns when they are on the clock, John, do you
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to take This is an organization that
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  Speaker 1: made terrible decision when it came to Deshaun Watson, what
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  Speaker 1: they gave up to get him. They need to rebound
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  Speaker 1: as a team in so many ways. How do you
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  Speaker 1: think that number two overall pick is going to look
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  Speaker 1: for the Browns?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's where the next two picks get difficult
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  Speaker 2: because it's two teams kind of handicapped by quarterback situations
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  Speaker 2: that aren't very great. So Cleveland is a quarterback situation
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  Speaker 2: where they have a lot of money into one guy.
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  Speaker 2: New York is they need to win now, and so
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  Speaker 2: they time themselves with Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson. But
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  Speaker 2: I think with Cleveland, if you want to do it
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  Speaker 2: the right way, you're handicapped with this quarterback that definitely
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  Speaker 2: does not have the juice, definitely not good enough, that
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  Speaker 2: has taken such a steep cliff down that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if the talent's there. But don't add a quarterback
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  Speaker 2: into that, thinking, well, we have a lot of money
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  Speaker 2: tied into it, so let's put a lot of draft
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  Speaker 2: resources into it. My thing would be just get best
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  Speaker 2: talent available and then you continue to work your way
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  Speaker 2: out of whatever the quarterback situation is. So to me,
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  Speaker 2: that would have to be Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter is
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  Speaker 2: a great defensive player. I think he's going to play
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  Speaker 2: seventy percent cornerback, thirty percent wide receiver, Like he's going
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  Speaker 2: to play all of the defensive snaps, but he might
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  Speaker 2: play thirty forty snaps offensively, and that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: really beneficial because I think he's a top five prospect
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  Speaker 2: probably in both areas as a wide receiver and a cornerback.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the kind of player that Cleveland goes. You
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  Speaker 2: know what, I get that player. That player can make
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  Speaker 2: a huge impact. And then even a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: down the road, whenever they figure out DeShawn Watson, then
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  Speaker 2: you still have you have a great cornerback and a
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver. Yeah, and then you have the quarterback to
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  Speaker 2: maybe figure it out with him. So I think they're
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  Speaker 2: in a position of the quarterback position is what it is,
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  Speaker 2: so just continue to build build around it until you
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  Speaker 2: can finally get that quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good philosophy for sure. Moving on
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  Speaker 1: to the number three overall pick. At this moment, it
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  Speaker 1: is the New York Giants rival of the Philadelphia Eagle.
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  Speaker 1: John your thoughts on what the Giants may do with
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  Speaker 1: the number three overall pick.
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  Speaker 2: I. Honestly, it's it's a weird position for them to
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  Speaker 2: be in because it is a it is a GM position, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And like some some coaches and all that that want
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  Speaker 2: to win now, but is it it is a team
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  Speaker 2: that is not even close to trying to win now.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why when the Giants say, hey, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: keep Joe Shane and we're gonna keep all of these
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  Speaker 2: front office people that they they have to win now.
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  Speaker 2: There is a pressure for them to win, but we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna keep them because we feel like they can do it.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is, though you can't do it, there is
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  Speaker 2: no possible You have already made so many mistakes beforehand
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  Speaker 2: that you were not even close to making that.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of call.
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  Speaker 2: And so now I would go yet they should probably
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  Speaker 2: draft shoodor shudor is the guy you need a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: They drafted Daniel Daniel Jones early. The problem with Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Jones is he was kind of a project and so
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  Speaker 2: they needed to figure him out a little bit, and
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  Speaker 2: it turned out he wasn't very good with should all
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  Speaker 2: I know, there's not maybe the highest ceiling with Chaudor, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I am not going to pretend that Chador is like
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  Speaker 2: the can't miss quarterback prospect, but I feel like there
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  Speaker 2: is a lot of polish there. There's not many times
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  Speaker 2: you were in a position, especially where the Giants are,
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  Speaker 2: where you can get a quarterback that you can plug
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  Speaker 2: in immediately, and I feel like the guy already has
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  Speaker 2: NFL style of play, maybe again, not the physical tools
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  Speaker 2: to take him to the next level. He's not Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. But I can
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  Speaker 2: plug him in and maybe that guy's probably a top
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  Speaker 2: fifteen quarterback. I don't know if he's gonna get anything
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: over that. But that's the thing is the Giants are
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: going forward like the home run. They need to win
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: now and they're not going to trust a quarterback to
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: do it. So offensive lineman, the LU offensive lineman probably
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: is the way to go. Protect Russell Wilson, yes, protect
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Jamis Winston, Protect Tommy DeVito. I almost said Danny de Vito,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, like protect all of these guys in hope
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to God that they can do something.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: But to me, it's quarterback.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Like you you're in a good position to where you
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: have a a polished quarterback that you can plug in.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I think should door is a plug in right now
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and play, and the Giants need that. But they went
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: for veteran quarterbacks, and so now they have to go
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: with an offensive liignment to try and protect the veteran
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks that they have, and that's the way they go.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's the right way. Nothing the Giants
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: have done have been the right way.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct. Yeah, the fact that Joe Shane still
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: has his job is absolutely astonishing to me. It really is.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: It's hurting them.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: It's hurting them to the point they're they're making decisions
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: for him to He's making a decision to keep his job,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: not to help the New York Giants. That's when you
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: should know this whole operation is is it's done, It's
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: it's I think it's it's gonna it's definitely gonna be
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: to the point where they they're gonna have to move
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: on from him, and it's gonna put them back probably
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: a few more years.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely are yeah, absolutely completely agree with you, And I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: am fine with that, as is Eagles Nation for sure.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: So as we're finishing up the discussion here, John I
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: wanted to get into some more NFC East teams. New
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: York Giants were a great segue into what the Commanders
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: may be doing, the Cowboys may be doing. What's going
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to be the direction that both of these teams are
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: gonna go on? On Day one of the draft again,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: just talked about the Giants. What are your thoughts on
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders who are sitting at number twenty nine,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: What do you think they're gonna be doing in this
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: draft and the direction they'll be going.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they're gonna get very complacent with
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: their offense and maybe a little bit to a fault.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: So good for Cliff Kingsbury. He came in, did a
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: great job. I think it was a really good fit
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: with Jayden Daniels, but there has been I think repeatedly
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: like a I think with Jane Daniels and with Kyler Murray.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna work long term. Kyler
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Murray was great his first year, but then all of
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: a sudden things started to really fall apart. And so
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I do think that after a while, you're gonna have
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: to fix that offense. You're gonna have to get more
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: offensive lineman You're probably gonna have to add more wide
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: receivers outside of Tarry McLaurin, who I think was like
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the biggest reason why Jane Daniels ended up being the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: way he was. He had a very good vertical threat
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and that's what Arry McLaren is and that's what Jane
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Daniels does very well. So I think where you're gonna
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: need is probably offensive lineman. But I think they're gonna
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: go you know what, our offense is good. I think
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: they're gonna go defensive. The Cowboys, I couldn't tell you
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: like they need a running back, but would you spend
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: on a running back at twelve?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Number twelve? Fashion?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Jin T is the is the guys being mocked to them,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and JT is a talent that should probably be top
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: ten to fifteen.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It reminds you of Ezekiel Ellot coming in when he did.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: It really does. And while Ezekiel Elliott was very dominate
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: at times during his tenure with the Dallas Cowboys, at
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, what did it do for him? Yes?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: What did it do?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: So? It helped Dak Prescott early, but you have a
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: late Dak Prescott, you have this guy needs to win
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: now Dak Prescott and is a running back going to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: do the same thing for him early on in his
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: career that it did later on. So that's where I
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: have questions of they haven't really committed sometimes to Dak,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: they haven't committed to building an offense around him.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they've committed to.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: So to me, yeah, Jaint makes sense because that's what
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: they've done before, and they're probably going to go. You
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: know what, Tac has worked well with a good running game,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and so we can get him Jint and it'll be
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the same impact that Ezeko Elliott had. So I think
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent that's where they're gonna go. I don't
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: think that's the right way to go. They need a
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: lot of talent around and I'm a Dak guy. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: think that is a really good But they're gonna need
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: a lot more than just because I like running backs
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and I thought Eagles getting a running back and Baltimore
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: getting running back really helped out their quarterbacks. They need
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: more than just helping out their quarterback. They need everything. Yes,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And to just go running back in the first round
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: is is just to me. It's a team that's very
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: short sighted and short sighted for reason, Jerry wants to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: win now and a team that I think even he
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: is questioning, I don't even know if they can do it. Yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: so yeah, Dallas is in a very weird spot.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Let's let's keep these bottom feeders here in the NFC
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: East where they are at. John again, Folks, John Janssen
• 21:11
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• 21:15
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• 22:32
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• 22:35
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• 22:37
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• 22:40
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• 22:42
  Speaker 2: My friend, I'm sure talking about some crazy Howie Roseman
• 22:47
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• 22:49
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• 22:51
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• 22:53
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