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- 0:00Yo, the short interest on MSTR just reached an all time high of
- 0:05$10 billion. But this isn't stopping their
- 0:08Bitcoin playbook as the company just announced another $2
- 0:12billion buy this week. Rather, yesterday we covered
- 0:15that on yesterday's news story. Will Microstrategy's new $2
- 0:18billion buy blow up the parabolic number of
- 0:22MicroStrategy shorts? That's what we're seeing in the
- 0:25market is they're building. It's literally going parabolic.
- 0:28MSTR is still down by over 40% from its local all time high,
- 0:32but this doesn't seem to be slowing down their exponential
- 0:35Bitcoin accumulation plan. Today we're going to be talking
- 0:38about what happens if MicroStrategy does blow up this
- 0:41increasing number of shorts and what impact that might have on
- 0:44the price of Bitcoin and MSTR. If these shorts do get wrecked.
- 0:49Will this accelerate the MSTR flywheel slash feedback loop?
- 0:53No one knows. We are watching it just as you
- 0:56guys are. So let's get into some of this
- 0:59news story and then we will dive into it with our guest and of
- 1:04course our fearless Co host. So I'm not alone guys, we got
- 1:08Bram. I'm going to butcher your last
- 1:10name, Brother Canstein. Right?
- 1:13Well done. Well, let's go.
- 1:14OK, A fellow Bitcoin content creator and of course, our
- 1:17fearless leader, Nico, he's also still dealing with that throat
- 1:21thing we were talking about yesterday and coughing.
- 1:23So keep yourself muted, Nico. And we're, we're going to keep
- 1:26the show going. You already know the deal.
- 1:28The show goes on, Nico, mute yourself.
- 1:30Geez, OK, OK, all right, so let's start with this guys.
- 1:34We covered this on yesterday's news story.
- 1:36You know, we we talked about Sailor just continuing to double
- 1:39down, buying Bitcoin, opening up micro strategy for new markets.
- 1:43And as we covered yesterday, he acquired another thousand
- 1:47Bitcoin and he's now got a total of 447,470 Bitcoin.
- 1:54Now, of course, you guys been trolling us.
- 1:57Is this simply Bitcoin turning into simply Sailor?
- 1:59Well, guys, Micro Sailor, MicroStrategy has been putting
- 2:03on a master class for corporate America and every CEO out there
- 2:07and he's getting a lot of attention from mainstream and of
- 2:10course from the bears. I mean, look at the
- 2:12MicroStrategy chart. It's literally looks like it's
- 2:16going parabolic here. You can see this.
- 2:18Of course, we've been covering this all of last year.
- 2:21They finally got past the 2000.com bubble and, and for a
- 2:25lot of people right now it looks like it's in another bubble.
- 2:28Well, if you don't understand what sailors doing, if you don't
- 2:32understand Bitcoin, you don't understand all the convertible
- 2:35bonds he's creating, then maybe you think that yes, this is a
- 2:40bubble, you know, tulips bubble, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
- 2:43And it hey man, the price is going up.
- 2:45It it damn near looks parabolic as well.
- 2:48Now going into today's news story, you can see that there is
- 2:53a record high of MicroStrategy short interest.
- 2:56And it's, it's absolutely crazy. So it's at $9.72 billion of
- 3:01volume for shorts. And you can see here on the
- 3:03chart the short interest over time.
- 3:06It is, it's looking like it's going parabolic here.
- 3:10And there's been a lot of talk on Twitter about the shorting.
- 3:13You know, there's a famous tweet right now or infamous tweet
- 3:16right now from Martin Shkreli, the, the tech bro out there, the
- 3:19villain tech bro, He's got a huge short.
- 3:22He's saying, like, I'm good, man, I'm OK with this, but what
- 3:26does this do for the Bitcoin price?
- 3:28This is simply Bitcoin after all.
- 3:29We're not here just pumping MicroStrategy.
- 3:32Obviously, we've been trolling the last couple of weeks at man,
- 3:34we really wish we just bought, you know, bought all of our
- 3:37stack in MSTR. We'd be a hell of a lot richer
- 3:40at this point. But for the basic mechanics
- 3:43here, the higher MSTR pumps, the more shares that MSTR
- 3:47MicroStrategy issues. And then of course, the more
- 3:50shares they issue, the more Bitcoin sailor buys and he's
- 3:53just doing this flywheel over and over and over.
- 3:56And then plus as the higher the MSTR market cap goes, the bigger
- 4:01percentage of the NASDAQ QQQ inflows MicroStrategy gets,
- 4:05which means soon everyone will essentially be buying Bitcoin
- 4:09through MicroStrategy indirectly pumping the Bitcoin price.
- 4:13So it is a symbiotic relationship here guys, as much
- 4:17as we are Bitcoin Maxis, as much as we're like just by spot
- 4:21Bitcoin, there is very, very interesting things going on with
- 4:24micro strategies. Now as a Bitcoiner, rather
- 4:27someone trying to just understand the market dynamics
- 4:30going on, what are the reasons for these shorts?
- 4:32Well, obviously I think there's two reasons right now.
- 4:35One, the bears are just shorting MSTR because of a ridiculous
- 4:392024 rally. I think that might be the
- 4:41majority of the shares going on. If you want to have a more, you
- 4:44know, bearish case on what's going on with micro strategy,
- 4:47you're kind of looking at market sentiment.
- 4:49You see a lot of haters out there for lack of better terms.
- 4:51They're like, no, this is going to blow up.
- 4:53Michael Saylor is crazy. He's insane.
- 4:56What is he doing? He's just buying Bitcoin.
- 4:58What's the company even do? And yes, he's just buying a
- 5:01bunch of Bitcoin, turning a zombie company into a Bitcoin
- 5:05company. Or the more conservative take
- 5:07here might be that some of the people are hedging themselves in
- 5:11a more conservative play against the growing bond creation of
- 5:14MSTR. Obviously, they probably hold
- 5:16some MSTR and they're like, hey, well maybe if the price does go
- 5:20down, I'm going to hedge against that and buy some shorts.
- 5:23So there is some interesting stuff going on here with
- 5:26MicroStrategy. Now the other story that I find
- 5:29very interesting with what Michael Saylor has been doing in
- 5:33this MicroStrategy convertible bond play we've been seeing play
- 5:37out the last couple of months is remember Sailors been or rather
- 5:42Sailor planned on what we've seen him do in the last three
- 5:46months to take three years now. Why is Sailor essentially
- 5:50pushing up the timeline? It looks like he himself,
- 5:53himself is following into Bitcoin again.
- 5:55He has shortened a three-year plan into three months.
- 5:59And it looks like he's doing all of this as we start to see Trump
- 6:04take office, you know, in the next what, 13 days or so.
- 6:08So what does he know? Does he know an SPR is coming?
- 6:12Does he? Is he just foreseeing an
- 6:14incredible price increase? Obviously, we're not mind
- 6:18readers. We're just looking at the market
- 6:19and wondering what's going on, wondering maybe he does know
- 6:22some things that we don't understand yet.
- 6:24But it looks like there is an incredible amount of short
- 6:28interest on MSTR and can micro strategy just blow this up?
- 6:33If he does blow this up, we will see an incredible $10 billion
- 6:38short squeeze as the MSTR price continues to go up.
- 6:41Things are starting to get really interesting going into
- 6:442025. Not only is the Bitcoin price
- 6:46going to go up, but I think Sailor might get even more
- 6:49vindication in 2025 with the MSTR.
- 6:52Literally Sailor is is putting on a master class and
- 6:56trailblazing for different ways of trad FI to get onto the
- 7:02Bitcoin standards for companies and CEOs to enter into Bitcoin.
- 7:06And I think very soon we're going to see a lot of tech CEOs,
- 7:11top CEO's, pension funds, etcetera, start to get some
- 7:16interest in MSR, start to follow suit.
- 7:19Things are getting very interesting, not only on the SBR
- 7:22level, but on the company corporate level and of course,
- 7:25the institutional adoption that we think is coming in 2025.
- 7:28It's it feels, it's starting to feel like that what we've been
- 7:31saying for a while. 2025 is going to be a crazy, crazy year
- 7:35in terms of price. Of course, we got to stay
- 7:38vigilant. Make sure you're taking your
- 7:39Bitcoin into custody, make sure you're running nodes out there.
- 7:41This is simply Bitcoin after all.
- 7:44Now I ranted enough this morning already.
- 7:47I'm I'm a starting strong. I'm geeked up on caffeine and
- 7:50nicotine. So I'm gonna pass it over to
- 7:51Bram because we got to give Nico a little little moment to heal
- 7:55that throat. Get a throat lozenger in there.
- 7:57But Bram, good morning. Thanks for coming on.
- 8:00And what's your thoughts on all this micro strategy news?
- 8:03And, and are are you, are you being bearish or bullish on the
- 8:06MSTR stock? No, I'm super bullish.
- 8:10I I love the energy. I love this.
- 8:12I love this intro dude. You know what it's so fun.
- 8:15Like so much stuff can happen in Bitcoin.
- 8:18Each week. There is something where I'm I'm
- 8:22triggered again to learn more, dive into and I I don't remember
- 8:28when, but I think it was like four or five weeks ago only I
- 8:31really got like MicroStrategy built took me three videos, I
- 8:37think, and and some tweets by Ben Workman's a shout out to Ben
- 8:41Workman. One of the the the I think they
- 8:43called himself the, the quant. What is that kid analysts or
- 8:47something like that? When when Ben said you have to
- 8:52look at micro strategy as like a business model pivot.
- 8:54That's when I realized that, you know, Sailor started with kind
- 8:59of like a company that was on its way out.
- 9:03He had this 500 million in cash, you know, this this story is
- 9:06known. Eventually he was looking for a
- 9:07way to protect that ended up going from a skeptic to, you
- 9:12know, a bitcoiner using it to as a treasury for his company.
- 9:18And then slowly he figured out like, hey, I can, I can buy
- 9:22more. I can leverage this.
- 9:23I can use these like classic tratify instruments to to get
- 9:29more Bitcoin. And when you think about the
- 9:31word business model pivot, he's he's pivoting from this, you
- 9:35know, B to B SAS business to he called it a Bitcoin development
- 9:38company. Now it's now he says I'm a
- 9:41Bitcoin treasury company and that I think that thing really
- 9:46did it for me where I'm seeing like, hey, he's capitalizing or
- 9:50taking the opportunities that he's seeing in the market and
- 9:55he's acting on that. And so I think it's very
- 9:58fascinating. And also I see in the chat like
- 10:00Bitcoin is falling now, you know, like it's, it's just so
- 10:04funny. Why is bit, why is Sailor in a
- 10:06rush? Because he understands what this
- 10:07is. And if you don't understand what
- 10:09this is, you either sell it or you gamble with it or you
- 10:12leverage it or, you know, whatever.
- 10:15But the most important thing is that you get in on Bitcoin
- 10:19because it's the most important technological discovery in
- 10:23finance in our entire lifetime. Totally, Bram, totally.
- 10:27And I really, I really like the meme of, you know, a business
- 10:30plan pivot and we're seeing it happen in real time.
- 10:33And I, I see a lot of Bitcoiners, especially on
- 10:36Twitter talk about like, oh, I, you know, how is this a
- 10:38separation of money and state? I thought Bitcoin was going to
- 10:42take over Tradfi. Why are we using these Tradfi
- 10:45tools to essentially you know, get more Bitcoin and and I I
- 10:49think kind of a a small silver lining here guys is if we do
- 10:53want to win and and and the sense that we've always thought
- 10:57about Bitcoin in the sense of Bitcoin taking over the world, I
- 11:00think we should be using all of the Tradfi tools to further
- 11:03facilitate Bitcoin. This is how we fully entrench
- 11:06Bitcoin yes, of course we want to make sure that people can
- 11:08hold Bitcoin, take Bitcoin into custody, run nodes, etcetera.
- 11:12But the way we really take over is by using every Tradfi tool
- 11:15out there to just continue to infiltrate the system.
- 11:18And you're seeing that sailor is doing that in real time.
- 11:22I personally am not going to be, you know, a person that says I
- 11:25understand everything he's doing, but just watching him,
- 11:28you just learned so much of of what goes on in the mind of a
- 11:32billionaire CEO on the front lines with Bitcoin.
- 11:35He's playing a different game than we are and it's incredible
- 11:38to watch. And yes guys, I guess you can
- 11:40say that simply sailor simply bitcoins been simping for sailor
- 11:44lately, but hey, he's just killing it out there.
- 11:46He's taking all the Bitcoin man, I sailor when you stop taking
- 11:50all the Bitcoin. Anyways Nico, try not to cough
- 11:53on stream, but how are you doing and what's your thoughts on this
- 11:57MSTR short? Squee possibility.
- 12:01Yeah. So first of all, shout out to
- 12:03Opti for filling in for me. I straight up, you know, I had
- 12:07to go to the emergency room on Sunday 'cause my, my tonsil was
- 12:10just going crazy. They gave me some medicine.
- 12:13It got a little bit better. I woke up this morning and I had
- 12:17to text Opti. Like as soon as I wake up, I'm
- 12:19like, dude, I'm going to probably need you to fill in for
- 12:22me because it was hurting again this morning.
- 12:24So shout out to Optimus Fields, the legend for filling in.
- 12:28Look, all I got to say is, you know, short MicroStrategy at
- 12:33your own peril, OK, short MicroStrategy at your own peril
- 12:38because they're, excuse me, they're buying, they're buying
- 12:44an asset that has absolute scarcity.
- 12:47They're taking advantage of the debt based system, the infinite
- 12:51money glitch. And that's what people do not
- 12:54understand. They do not fundamentally
- 12:57understand that what micro, that what MicroStrategy is doing is
- 13:01they're acquiring the scarcest asset in the history of mankind.
- 13:07And if you're coming from the traditional financial world,
- 13:11that does not compute. That does not compute.
- 13:14You do not understand why this stock that essentially has been
- 13:19going sideways since the 19, like sincethe.com boom and bust
- 13:26MicroStrategy stock has literally stayed the same for 20
- 13:30years. And then as soon as he announced
- 13:33the Bitcoin strategy, it pumped. Then we had the bear market of
- 13:3721 and then it was a great opportunity to get in.
- 13:41And then it's just gone parabolic since then.
- 13:43And then what's really interesting about MicroStrategy
- 13:46too, is the terms that they're getting for these loans, right?
- 13:51They're extremely favorable and the interest rates are so low.
- 13:56So like, you know, there's always risk when you're
- 14:00borrowing money to buy Bitcoin. But again, like the bet that
- 14:05Saylor is making is he's going to be fine if Bitcoins price is
- 14:11higher five years from now. Like that is such a no brainer
- 14:16bet, right? And another reason as to why the
- 14:19stock has gone parabolic the way it has is it's because it's
- 14:24fulfilling a market need that no other stock it has been able to
- 14:28do or no other product that's equivalent to it.
- 14:33Because there's a lot of like index funds or let's say you're
- 14:36a pension fund, you can't get exposure to Bitcoin.
- 14:39Like you can't even get exposure to the ETF.
- 14:42But they can't buy a stock. So what do they do?
- 14:44They buy MicroStrategy. And even though that's not
- 14:48exposure, direct exposure to Bitcoin, it's essentially acting
- 14:53like exposure to Bitcoin. So a lot of people are using
- 14:57MicroStrategy like that. Now.
- 14:59I don't suspect that's always going to be the case.
- 15:02I think there's going to be multiple products down the road
- 15:05that are going to offer something similar.
- 15:08But Michael Saylor has first mover advantage here.
- 15:12Even if another company was to put it's hat in the ring and
- 15:15they said, you know what, we're going to buy as much Bitcoin as
- 15:19as Sailor it, it's just going to run up the price so high.
- 15:23So like he's clearly the winner here.
- 15:26It's going to be very difficult for another a company to catch
- 15:30up to him. But I will say this, I think a
- 15:32nation state is going to follow a very similar playbook.
- 15:36And unlike what sailors using, which is using the debt based
- 15:40system to, you know, leverage his company in order to buy more
- 15:44Bitcoin and then his stock goes up and he just does this rinse
- 15:48and repeat. The ultimate like speculative
- 15:53attack on the dollar, I think is going to come from governments
- 15:56themselves once they realize that they can use their Fiat
- 16:00money printers to buy more Bitcoin.
- 16:03And I think it was sailor that actually said this.
- 16:06The first country that realizes they can do that is going to win
- 16:12because like all bets are off at that point.
- 16:14They can create their money out of thin air and they could use
- 16:18that money to buy something with absolute scarcity, right?
- 16:22Like, and then you're just going to see the system just like it's
- 16:26going to be a brave new world. No one is anticipating what is
- 16:30going to happen if and when that happens.
- 16:34And I, I don't think it's a question of if.
- 16:35I think it's a question of when. And I think there's a very high
- 16:38probability the first pro Bitcoin president's going to be
- 16:42sworn in 13 days. I'm going to be, I'm, I'm going
- 16:45to be at the inauguration. I'm going to get footage for you
- 16:47guys. I'm going to be there with
- 16:48Ruston. It's going to be historic.
- 16:52And you know, I'm telling you like all bets are off as soon as
- 16:57that happens. Like you think what Sailor is
- 17:00doing is crazy with MicroStrategy.
- 17:02When nation states start going in there and they start using
- 17:05their money printers to buy Bitcoin, dude, it's going to be
- 17:10absolutely crazy. I'm bullish on MicroStrategy,
- 17:13I'm bullish on Bitcoin, but most importantly, I'm actually the
- 17:17most bullets bullish on individuals adopting Bitcoin.
- 17:21Because individuals adopting Bitcoin and then putting that
- 17:23Bitcoin into self custody is what is actually going to
- 17:27fundamentally change the world. But again, number go up means
- 17:31more adoption. More adoption means more
- 17:33individuals adopting Bitcoin. So yeah, I mean, we we Trump
- 17:38said it at the Nashville speech. They said you guys are going to
- 17:41get tired of winning. I mean, so much winning, bro, so
- 17:44much winning. That's so.
- 17:45Much winning. All right, we did get a good
- 17:47question here in the chat and it says that at at what at what
- 17:51price do these shorts get destroyed?
- 17:54So looking over here at marketbeat.com, it looks like
- 17:57the price the short striking point is 387 and four O 8.
- 18:03So going back to the chart current Bitcoin or current MSTR
- 18:06chart price is 347 and 46 cents. So you know, there's a there's
- 18:12some room here. We'll see.
- 18:13We'll see if it breaks through that point.
- 18:15Very interesting to watch. Anyways, guys, we have a long
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- 23:05Of course we're over here on the numbers on Clark Moody's
- 23:07dashboard. The Bitcoin price is currently
- 23:09$96,970. It's so over guys.
- 23:13Oh no, yeah, it's over. We had a good run.
- 23:17Shout out to everyone on Twitter.
- 23:18Like we are never going to see 5 digit Bitcoin again.
- 23:21And guess what we are saying 5 digit Bitcoin again.
- 23:25It's so over now. It's not just keep staying back
- 23:27in. This is how Bitcoin works
- 23:29anyways. The SAT per dollar, how much
- 23:31Bitcoin you can buy for a single dollar, how much the dollar is
- 23:33worth in Bitcoin. It's currently at 1031 SAT's per
- 23:37dollar. The current block height is
- 23:38878,250. The market cap in Fiat terms is
- 23:431.92 trillion. Dang man it it really hurts when
- 23:46we don't have secure that $2 trillion market cap.
- 23:49Anyway. The Bitcoin versus gold market
- 23:50cap is 10.42% and the total percentage of Bitcoin that will
- 23:54ever be issued is 94.31 percent with roughly 19.8 million
- 23:59bitcoins circulating. All right guys.
- 24:02Now this is a huge theme we've been talking about on the show
- 24:06is the freedom of speech aspect, Internet censorship.
- 24:10And it looks, you know, I, I might be a little more skeptical
- 24:14than Nico here, but it looks like we're getting another
- 24:16domino to fall here. We have Zuck, you know, Mark
- 24:21Zuckerberg going out here. He just dropped this video about
- 24:24how they're going to change the Facebook algos and, and foster
- 24:27more free speech. He dropped this 5 minute video.
- 24:30I'm not going to play the whole 5 minute video, but I'll play
- 24:32you a part of it just so you can get a gist of it.
- 24:35And then we'll talk about it again.
- 24:36I, I might be a little more skeptical than Nico will be on
- 24:39this, but you know, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
- 24:41Let's let's hear what he says in his own words.
- 24:44I want to talk about something important today because it's
- 24:47time to get back to our roots around free expression.
- 24:49On Facebook and Instagram, I started building social media to
- 24:53give people a voice. I gave a speech at Georgetown
- 24:56five years ago about the importance of protecting free
- 24:58expression, and I still believe this today.
- 25:01But a lot has happened over the last several years.
- 25:04There's been widespread debate about potential harms from
- 25:07online content. Governments and legacy media
- 25:10have pushed to censor more and more.
- 25:12A lot of this is clearly political, but there's also a
- 25:15lot of legitimately bad stuff out there.
- 25:17Drugs, terrorism, Child Exploitation.
- 25:20These are things that we take very seriously, and I want to
- 25:23make sure that we handle responsibly.
- 25:24So we built a lot of complex systems to moderate content.
- 25:28But the problem with complex systems is they make mistakes.
- 25:32Even if they accidentally censor just 1% of posts, that's
- 25:35millions of people. And we've reached a point where
- 25:38it's just too many mistakes and too much censorship.
- 25:42The recent elections also feel like a cultural tipping point
- 25:45towards once again prioritizing speech.
- 25:47So we're going to get back to our roots and focus on reducing
- 25:50mistakes, simplifying our policies, and restoring free
- 25:54expression on our platforms. More specifically, here's what
- 25:58we're going to do. First, we're going to get rid of
- 26:00fact checkers and replace them with community notes similar to
- 26:04X, starting in the US. After Trump first got elected in
- 26:082016, the legacy media wrote non-stop about how
- 26:12misinformation was a threat to democracy.
- 26:15We tried in good faith to address those concerns without
- 26:17becoming the arbiters of truth, but the fact checkers have just
- 26:21been too politically biased and have destroyed more trust than
- 26:24they've created, especially in the US.
- 26:27So over the next couple of months, we're going to phase in
- 26:30a more comprehensive community notes system.
- 26:33Second, we're going to simplify or.
- 26:35OK, OK, OK, Just you go watch the whole clip.
- 26:39You can make up your own mind. And now another interesting move
- 26:41that Zuck made, again, allegedly a proponent of free speech, now
- 26:46that the tide is shifting, is adding Dana White to the meta
- 26:50board. Now, I'm more of a fan of of
- 26:53Dana White than I am of Zuck. And you guys obviously know he's
- 26:56a huge advocate for freedom of speech.
- 26:59He doesn't control anything his UFC fighters say out there.
- 27:01He's like, they're men. They can say whatever they want
- 27:04and you know, he's really like the the the Chad bro CEO out
- 27:08there. And so I it is interesting to
- 27:11see all of these moves play out in in the same time he comes out
- 27:14with this new, you know, video about we're not going to police
- 27:18speech. We're going to follow must with
- 27:20a community. No, you know, it does seem like
- 27:23he's seeing the tide shift, or at least that's like the surface
- 27:26level view of this. But, you know, there is people
- 27:29that are saying that this is an incredibly extraordinary
- 27:33cultural moment where he is talking about the zeitgeist
- 27:37going on. And also one interesting point
- 27:39about that video was he's saying he's moving the Meta
- 27:43headquarters from California to Texas, which we've seen must do
- 27:45something very similar at the very end.
- 27:47Yeah, at the very end, he talks about that, which is very
- 27:50interesting. So is he, you know, seeing the
- 27:53writing on the wall, of course, of course, Meta has more data
- 27:57than we do. Maybe he's seeing that the
- 27:59cultural, you know, zeitgeist is shifting towards the right.
- 28:02I think this is kind of the conversation we've been seeing
- 28:05for a long time. And then of course we can talk
- 28:08about must doing something similar.
- 28:09Of course he's been talking about you are the media now, and
- 28:13I think there is a huge a huge push right now from from Silicon
- 28:17Valley in this idea of freedom of speech.
- 28:19Is this them capitulating? Personally, I might be a little
- 28:23more skeptical than Nico here on this point, but I do love for
- 28:29lack of better terms of pandering towards freedom of
- 28:31speech. I think as a bitcoiner, we all
- 28:33understand freedom of of speech is very important.
- 28:35Obviously we want the freedom to transact.
- 28:38And you're seeing that the ship, the cultural shift is moving
- 28:41towards realizing, you know, I would argue realizing their
- 28:44mistakes in quotation marks here.
- 28:46So I'm, I don't know, I don't have to Nico here, but I I'm
- 28:51feeling personally, it feels a little bit like a grift, a
- 28:55little bit. It's almost a little too little
- 28:58too late considering everything we saw from Zuck and Mehta in
- 29:032016 and in 2020. You know, now are they suddenly
- 29:08becoming enlightened and they're seeing the error of their ways?
- 29:12Or are they just kind of afraid like their heads on the chopping
- 29:14board now? And if Trump comes in, what
- 29:17everyone's afraid of doing, you know, with a hammer.
- 29:19They don't want to be on the wrong side of history here.
- 29:21And I think fighting free speech in any of its forms is
- 29:26essential, actually on the wrong side of history.
- 29:28So I do give them kind of a leeway into learning the error
- 29:32of their ways. But I don't know, when I saw
- 29:34this, I, I, I, I kind of felt it's a little grifty here.
- 29:37Niko I It's still a big cultural moment as far as we're
- 29:40concerned. In free speech.
- 29:42So again, so we have to give a little bit of context to the
- 29:45audience, right? So you guys are tuning in.
- 29:47You're like, Niko, what the fuck, Opti, what the fuck?
- 29:49This is a Bitcoin show. What?
- 29:51Why are we talking about this? Free speech is the front line
- 29:55for the battle for Bitcoin. If you think that they're going
- 29:59to be OK with you transacting freely and they're not OK with
- 30:02you speaking freely, you're completely naive.
- 30:05They're one in the same. Bitcoin functions on free speech
- 30:09principles. You cannot censor another
- 30:13person's transaction on the Bitcoin network.
- 30:16Jeff Booth's comments come to to mind when we talk about this
- 30:21specific subject. You know, one of the things
- 30:24about Bitcoin is that you're going to have to be OK with even
- 30:26your worst enemy using the Bitcoin network.
- 30:29So same thing applies to free speech.
- 30:32Thing with free speech, is it perfect?
- 30:34No. Is it messy?
- 30:36Yes. Is it the best system?
- 30:38Absolutely. Because the opposite is giving
- 30:41the power to a bureaucratic elite or a tech elite to pick
- 30:46and choose what is the truth and what is not the truth.
- 30:50And the reason the founding fathers basically forbade
- 30:54government or Congress to censor the speech of Americans is
- 30:59because they came to the realization that inevitably what
- 31:03was going to happen is the government was going to use that
- 31:06as a as a political Moat to protect themselves.
- 31:10And that's essentially what happened in the era of social
- 31:13media with the rise of social media.
- 31:15Because essentially before social media, there was a
- 31:18handful of legacy media outlets where everybody got their news
- 31:22and those legacy media outlets over the decades were Co opted
- 31:26by government. What happened with social media
- 31:29is you saw mass scale peer-to-peer communications and
- 31:33essentially it allowed individual creators like
- 31:36Mianopti for example. Here it's simply Bitcoin to
- 31:39speak directly to our audience members.
- 31:42And then it became a lot more difficult to control the
- 31:45narrative. That's why you see the rise of
- 31:47Joe Rogan, the rise of Tucker Cross and the rise of Candace
- 31:50Owens, the rise of Steven Crowder, the rise of Tim Poole,
- 31:54right, The Young Turks like you see the rise of independent
- 31:58media and Elon has a quote that he's been saying on X, you are
- 32:02the media. Now this is all as we transition
- 32:05into the information age. Now, the reason all of this is
- 32:08important, the reason we talk about this on the Bitcoin show
- 32:11is because the next step is the disintermediation of money and
- 32:15state. And our tool are the most
- 32:19effective tool to educating the masses about Bitcoin, about the
- 32:23truth about money. The truth about inflation is
- 32:26speech. If we're not allowed to talk the
- 32:29truth about money, then we can't really get the message out on
- 32:33Bitcoin. That's why we've always focused
- 32:36so much about the battle for free speech.
- 32:39Now in regards to Opti's original comment to weave it
- 32:42back in, yeah, I, I, I think Jeff Bezos, I think Mark
- 32:47Zuckerberg are all seeing the writing on the wall.
- 32:51They tried everything in their power to stop Trump getting re
- 32:58elected, right? They tried everything.
- 33:00The legacy media. You can even make an argument.
- 33:03I know it's not completely confirmed that they tried
- 33:06assassinating him, right. Then you can make that argument.
- 33:09And they were not successful. And Republicans usually don't
- 33:13win the popular vote. And, and with everything they
- 33:16did, all the smear campaigns, the legal campaigns,
- 33:20essentially, you know, they tried to put him in prison.
- 33:23They charged him with a crime, the first, the first president
- 33:28that's been essentially, you know, convicted.
- 33:30And we all knew it was lawfare. It didn't matter.
- 33:33The American people didn't buy into that narrative, right?
- 33:37And what happened? It says, like Trump won the
- 33:40popular vote and the Republicans won a government trifecta that
- 33:44that usually never happens in American politics.
- 33:48So if you're one of these tech Bros like Mark Zuckerberg that
- 33:52put in like $400 million to help the Democrats get elected back
- 33:56in 2021, you're freaking out a little bit, right?
- 34:00You're looking at that and you're like, oh God, like Elon
- 34:03with X, like, you know, Facebook might be at risk.
- 34:07People are just swarming to X. Like X is growing like crazy.
- 34:11If you look at the the, the, how much users they're gaining,
- 34:16legacy media has lost 20 to 30% of their viewers or listeners or
- 34:20all that stuff. And X has actually gained 20 or
- 34:2430%. So Zuckerberg as a businessman,
- 34:27I don't know if he actually, actually believes all this
- 34:29stuff, but I think as a businessman, you know,
- 34:32fundamentally it comes down to like, look, this is the trend.
- 34:36People want this type of speech. And again, I think all the
- 34:39things that he said were justifications to kind of
- 34:43justify his actions over the years, right?
- 34:47But again, you know, like, at the end of the day,
- 34:49fundamentally what matters is eventually the market forced him
- 34:54to have to change his policy and that this is where we are right
- 34:58now. And I suspect all the other
- 35:00platforms are going to have to pivot because they're not going
- 35:03to have a choice because people are going to flee to the
- 35:06platforms that they're able to speak freely in.
- 35:10Like it was crazy to me when the Twitter Files came out where it
- 35:15was confirmed that elements of the US government were asking
- 35:18private corporations to censor Americans on their their behalf.
- 35:23Like, that is completely against the 1st Amendment.
- 35:26And all of that stuff is coming to light.
- 35:28And I promise you, remember, Trump got de platformed.
- 35:32They de platformed a sitting precedent Like that is nuts.
- 35:37That is crazy. So do you think that he's not
- 35:41going to go into office and he's not going to put the DOJ and
- 35:45investigate into what was happening behind the scenes and
- 35:48all the things that they're going to uncover?
- 35:50This is a cover your ass moment by all these people, right?
- 35:55And if you take a look at all the tech Bros that are donating
- 35:59to Trump's inauguration, you have Tim Cook, you have Mark
- 36:03Zuckerberg, you have Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos wrote an article with
- 36:07the Washington Post basically saying, hey, guys, we got to be
- 36:11neutral here. People don't trust the media
- 36:13anymore. They are not doing this out of
- 36:15the goodness of their heart. They're doing this because all
- 36:18the things that they tried did not work.
- 36:22Trump still won. And now he's going into office.
- 36:25They almost like, you know, they nicked his ear a little bit.
- 36:31Like I, I think it's pretty safe to say he's going to ask.
- 36:35He's going to, you know, use the power that was Grant that was
- 36:39given to him, the mandate that was given to him by the American
- 36:42people to ask some very hard questions.
- 36:46And I think they want to be on the right side of history when
- 36:49that happens, right? Like the skeletons that they're
- 36:51going to, you know, uncover and they're going to find like,
- 36:54dude, you know, the writing's on the wall.
- 36:56The writing's on the wall. So, yeah, I completely agree
- 36:59with you, Opti. I don't think that I don't think
- 37:01he's like doing this out of the goodness of the of his heart.
- 37:05I think he's doing this out of self preservation for himself,
- 37:09but also self preservation for Facebook and Instagram.
- 37:14And one thing that I'll say too, the Dana White being on the
- 37:18board is extremes, extremely symbolic because Dana White is
- 37:23very, very close to Trump. They're very close.
- 37:26Dana White was the one who introduced Trump at the RNC
- 37:31convention. He introduced him, right?
- 37:33He out of all the people Trump could have asked, he asked Dana
- 37:36White to do it right. So again, it, it, the symbolism
- 37:40there is very powerful. And then as soon as that Dana
- 37:43White news dropped, Zuckerberg came out and saying, hey,
- 37:46basically we're getting rid of the fact checkers, which we knew
- 37:48were always extremely biased. And now we're going to do the
- 37:51community note stuff like, no, come on guys.
- 37:54Like this isn't, this isn't a coincidence.
- 37:57This isn't just, you know, all kumbaya.
- 38:00This is cover your own ass. Anyways, that's my take, Bram.
- 38:04What's your take on all this, brother?
- 38:06Oh, so much to think about, guys.
- 38:07Well, I was thinking about how Mark Zuckerberg has a goat named
- 38:12Bitcoin I. Don't know.
- 38:13Well, wait, hold on, hold on. It's Max and Bitcoin.
- 38:17So maxi Bitcoin, I don't know. I don't know.
- 38:23So and I was actually just Googling or like searching on
- 38:26Twitter because I have a tweet. I don't know when I tweeted it,
- 38:29but like I said, I think it was six months ago, maybe even
- 38:33longer. I think Zuckerberg buying
- 38:36Bitcoin would probably mark the top of this bull run.
- 38:41So I'm going to repeat that here and let's see how that ages.
- 38:44But what I find interesting, and I'll, I'll tie it in with
- 38:49Bitcoin, is that, you know, when Saylor talks about, you know,
- 38:54the strategy that he's following and the problem that other
- 38:57companies have as well, you know, the, the, the, the cash
- 39:01bar, etcetera. Like what do we do with the
- 39:02money? If you think about the the fan
- 39:08companies, right, like the big seven companies of the S&P 500,
- 39:12there's only one company where the majority where the CEO, the
- 39:18founder has a majority ownership and only one that can actually
- 39:23buy Bitcoin like Sailor has been doing with his influence as his,
- 39:28you know, shares and voting rights is Zuckerberg.
- 39:31So I just find that interesting that that is the case.
- 39:34And I totally agree with you guys.
- 39:36Like this is pure optimism, of course, and it, it's known that
- 39:41Zuckerberg is trying to move closer to Trump in order to make
- 39:45right what he's done wrong before.
- 39:48And so I agree with the, with the idea that, you know, Trump
- 39:53and Dana White are, are very good friends for like 20 or 30
- 39:56years or something. And so that might be a, be a way
- 40:00on the other side I was thinking to address because I, I, I, I
- 40:03remember last time that I was here, you talked about like, oh,
- 40:06the chat is brutal. ETC.
- 40:08And I wanted to address like some faults.
- 40:11They're like, oh, you voted for Trump, you got Elon or like
- 40:14Bitcoin is down and blah, blah. Like I think what we're showing
- 40:20here is that we are chilling, right?
- 40:21And it is very important that you study Bitcoin to a degree
- 40:26where you can actually chill, right?
- 40:28Like if it goes up, you chill. If it goes down, you chill.
- 40:31If Trump is the president, you chill.
- 40:32Someone else is the president you chill like you need to study
- 40:37Bitcoin and eventually understand what is what this is
- 40:39or you'll be kind of like stuck in all these short term time
- 40:43loops of things that you know want attention from you or
- 40:47things that you could be annoyed about.
- 40:49But you know, if you just stack Bitcoin, you can actually chill
- 40:52man, and you don't really have to pay attention to all the, all
- 40:55the BS and you can actually be entertained by seeing, you know,
- 41:00Bitcoin proliferate in the world and, and, and, and seeing this
- 41:03thing unfold. Because as Opti said in the
- 41:07beginning, you know, we might have first day executive order
- 41:12announcement of Trump in what is it 13 days, 14 days where he's
- 41:19going to announce Bitcoin plans for the, for the US, which is
- 41:23thoroughly entertaining. I I'd love to say so, you know,
- 41:28just chill, study Bitcoin and don't be distracted by all this
- 41:31short term bullshit. And again, I think Zuckerberg
- 41:35buying Bitcoin would mark the top.
- 41:37Yeah, I mean, I I that's a that's a great, great take like
- 41:40reeling this all back into Bitcoin, you know, is meta on
- 41:43the path to, you know, following Michael Saylor and doing, you
- 41:47know, a bitcoins whatever what are they putting Bitcoin on
- 41:50their balance sheet? We do know you know, he's got
- 41:52Bitcoin maxi goats here. So I think he's personally been
- 41:56buying it himself. But if he does come out with a
- 41:59meta announcement that would I maybe I don't know if it'd be
- 42:03the top brim. Maybe if it's if it's the end of
- 42:06the year, it might be the top. Perhaps, yeah.
- 42:10But I think in general it's just interesting.
- 42:12Also all the things that you just talked about with
- 42:14MicroStrategy and people being short or playing long game,
- 42:17whatever. Like if you're gambling on
- 42:19Bitcoin, you don't understand it.
- 42:21Like that ties into what I just said, Like you need to chill,
- 42:24like preserve your future. Don't, don't, don't, don't
- 42:27gamble and do all these little crazy tradie things and all the
- 42:30questions like why is it going down, etcetera.
- 42:32Like it's all unnecessary. Totally.
- 42:36You want to chime in? Yeah, I mean, first of all,
- 42:39great, great points from from Bram and and I agree.
- 42:43I think the top is when when Zuck buys Bitcoin, that's when
- 42:47that's that's when you know you have to get get the F out.
- 42:50But again, look what I will say, what I will say is what I will
- 42:55say is look, and I see a lot, I see a lot of this in the
- 42:59comments and I see a lot of people are like, Trump doesn't
- 43:02actually understand Bitcoin. Zuck doesn't actually mean this
- 43:05stuff. It doesn't matter.
- 43:06It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because
- 43:09they're doing it anyways. That's what matters, right?
- 43:13And that's something that you have to keep in mind.
- 43:15And a lot of people and guys, you have to understand this is
- 43:18the separation of money and state inherently.
- 43:21It is extremely political. What the the goal here is to end
- 43:24central banking. OK, Did you?
- 43:26If you thought this was going to be be a cakewalk, you're
- 43:29completely naive, right? And politics is ugly.
- 43:33Politics is messy. And I think that if you've been
- 43:35paying attention to American politics the last four years,
- 43:38you've seen this in 4K right up in your grill.
- 43:42So in politics, sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your
- 43:46friend. Sometimes you don't need people
- 43:48to agree with you. What matters is, is the tide
- 43:51moving in your favor? Is the things moving your favor?
- 43:55And absolutely one, 100% you have talk of a strategic Bitcoin
- 44:00reserve on the federal level. You have talk about a strategic
- 44:02Bitcoin reserve on the state level.
- 44:04And now you have the one of the most influential social media
- 44:08platforms following in the footsteps of Elon Musk and X.
- 44:13And whatever you feel about Facebook, whatever you feel
- 44:15about Zuckerberg, free speech is good for Bitcoin because it
- 44:20allows allows people to discuss, expose the scam that is Fiat
- 44:27money. And because Fiat money is based
- 44:30on theft, it means it's based on coercion, and it requires
- 44:34coercion in order for the system to work.
- 44:36And coercion also means censorship.
- 44:40So if you have more freedom of speech, you have more open
- 44:43dialogue about alternatives to the central banking system.
- 44:47So this is a huge win for Bitcoin, huge win for free
- 44:50speech, just winning overall. And I'm really excited, at least
- 44:54for the next 4 years and then we'll revisit it.
- 44:57Yeah, hold on, Nico. Before you go on, I just did a
- 44:59quick, you know, perplexity check just to kind of put these
- 45:04numbers and and these platforms and comparison here.
- 45:07Facebook still has approximately 3 billion monthly active users,
- 45:12which into me is mind blowing because I haven't had a Facebook
- 45:14in so long. Yeah, exactly who's using
- 45:17Facebook? That's literally what I was
- 45:18thinking. Wow.
- 45:19X or Twitter has around 611 million monthly active users.
- 45:24So I think this is, you know, if it goes in the direction that
- 45:27we're thinking, this is a huge win for free speech.
- 45:30We'll see how it plays out. So, you know, cautiously
- 45:33optimistic, I think, I think I'm going to change my name to
- 45:35cautiously optimistic fields moving into 2025 because I feel
- 45:39like I keep saying that throughout all of these crazy
- 45:41news stories right now. I, you know, I'm trying not to
- 45:44trust here. We got to verify.
- 45:46So cautiously optimistic fields for 2025.
- 45:48But let's move into the news for today because we got some more,
- 45:52some more interesting news coming out of Canada, which, you
- 45:56know, you know how we feel about Canada here.
- 45:57What's going on? But let's get into this the the
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- 48:14news story, guys. All right, boys and girls, we
- 48:17did a show on this. I forget I was it.
- 48:21Thanks. I think it was around
- 48:22Thanksgiving about this trend that we're seeing in Canada that
- 48:27it looks like Justin Trudeau was on the way out and potentially a
- 48:32more Bitcoin friendly administration would go in.
- 48:35And now it seems to have played out.
- 48:37So allegedly Justin Trudeau is resigning.
- 48:41And so I don't know, let me let me just play a little bit of his
- 48:43resignation speech and then we'll bring this back into why
- 48:47are we talking about this? I thought this is a simply
- 48:49Bitcoin show. Well, we got we got a little,
- 48:52you know, a little sauce in here for you.
- 48:53But let's hear Justin Trudeau himself, my friends.
- 48:59Is. You all, Oh, it's super quiet.
- 49:01Can you hear that? Every bone in my body has always
- 49:05told me to fight because I care deeply.
- 49:08Canadians, my friends, as you all know, I'm a fighter.
- 49:17Every bone in my body has always told me to fight because I care
- 49:22deeply about Canadians. I care deeply about this country
- 49:26and I will always be motivated by what is in the best interest
- 49:31of Canadians. And the fact is, despite best
- 49:37efforts to work through it, Parliament has been paralyzed
- 49:41for months after what has been the longest until March.
- 49:48The audio is really quiet, but long, long search here.
- 49:52We'll just keep it playing. We'll keep the just mute the
- 49:54audio opti and we'll just keep it playing in the background as
- 49:56we talk. But yeah, I mean, look.
- 49:58TLDR Justin Trudeau has officially resigned.
- 50:05Yeah, resigned from Prime Minister of Canada.
- 50:08But that's not the bullish news Opti, is it?
- 50:10Yeah, no, that is not the bullish news.
- 50:12So obviously, I don't even think Canadians, this is probably why
- 50:16he's, you know, resigning. They're not fans of Justin
- 50:20Trudeau and all of the policies he's been working on.
- 50:23But what does this mean for Bitcoin and why are we even
- 50:25talking about it? Well, it looks like, you know,
- 50:28pro Bitcoin. Pierre Polyev, I believe I said
- 50:31that correctly, I got memed last time I brought his name up,
- 50:35leaves the Poly market odds to become Canada's next Prime
- 50:38Minister, replacing Justin Trudeau.
- 50:41So it looks like pro Bitcoin candidate Pierre Polyev, which
- 50:45is, you know, the equivalent of the right in America, though
- 50:48their, their colors are different.
- 50:50So I, I guess Justin Trudeau on the left is red and the right in
- 50:54Canada is blue. So it's completely mixed up.
- 50:57But he is the conservative candidate here.
- 50:59He is pro Bitcoin. He's been out there, he's been
- 51:01talking, talk about Bitcoin. Actually, he's been a little
- 51:03quiet about Bitcoin in the last couple of years, which is, you
- 51:07know, maybe saying something, I don't know.
- 51:11But we all remember, at least if you've been in Bitcoin for a
- 51:14while, Pierre Polyev. This shwarma in Bitcoin with
- 51:18this we're going to buy Bitcoin. This shwarma with this Bitcoin,
- 51:22you ready hold. On I'm just creating an.
- 51:25Invoice. He's creating me an invoice
- 51:26right now. Now listen, he's going to.
- 51:28Oh yeah, make sure to include the tip in there as well.
- 51:33By the way, what is on this shawarma?
- 51:36Deliciousness. Deliciousness, an extra serving
- 51:39of deliciousness is exactly what we need.
- 51:42And by the way, do you use Canadian food when you when you
- 51:45make your shawarma as a Canadian source, Local, local, made in
- 51:50Canada, my friend. All right, let's do it.
- 51:56All right, All right, send, send then.
- 52:02Done. I got it.
- 52:05You got the payment. Let's go.
- 52:08OK, so. Trump.
- 52:10So Trump buys burgers and the potential front runner and the
- 52:14very good clarification from World of Rusty, World of Rusty's
- 52:17in the chat, Incredible Bitcoin graphic designer to specify the
- 52:23party isn't resigning. So yeah.
- 52:25So essentially Trudeau is stepping.
- 52:27It's a parliamentary system. So Trudeau is stepping away from
- 52:31Prime Minister and essentially another Liberal will step up as
- 52:36Prime Minister, replacing Trudeau.
- 52:38But the party itself will still remain in power.
- 52:40However, it's important to know, thank you Rusty, for that
- 52:43clarification that the Conservative Party, according to
- 52:46the latest polling is leading. So if they are to have an
- 52:51election, they they have to have an election by October of this
- 52:54year. But if they are to have an
- 52:55election, it looks like there's a high probability that that
- 53:00that that Polivier wins and he takes office.
- 53:04And the reason that this is important is again, he is pro
- 53:07Bitcoin AF. And that would be insane because
- 53:10essentially you'd have the United States pro Bitcoin and
- 53:13you'd have the Canada broke pro Bitcoin.
- 53:16And OK, so he's not buying. Burgers with Bitcoin.
- 53:18Wait, wait, wait, Nico. Sorry.
- 53:20Shawarma with Bitcoin to. To clarify, we will just have
- 53:23the United States being pro Bitcoin because we are in
- 53:26actually in Canada. No, and the green the Greenland.
- 53:31The Greenland thing is hilarious.
- 53:33Bro Trump actually flew into Greenland this morning with this
- 53:37plane. Have you guys seen that video?
- 53:39No, I didn't catch that. This morning, literally I
- 53:41thought it was a joke but like apparently Trump Force 1 landed
- 53:45in Greenland this morning. Bro, they're really serious
- 53:48about that. So it's so funny.
- 53:50So it's going to be like it's going to be Canada.
- 53:53And then I saw a picture too of apparently a Mexican annexation
- 53:57as well, which is hilarious. Oh.
- 54:01Man, keep going. You go keep going, Yeah.
- 54:04So yeah, I mean the and again, like this is the art of the
- 54:07deal. Like Trump is half serious, half
- 54:10telling the truth, but if you think that Trudeau is resigning
- 54:16just because out of the goodness of his heart, no, he sees the
- 54:20writing on the wall. That's what this is what that
- 54:23he's trying to cover his own ass.
- 54:25And I think that this is like a desperate attempt by the Liberal
- 54:29Party because Trudeau is so unpopular, they're just going to
- 54:33replace him with someone else. The policies will stay the same.
- 54:36And I think they're hoping that because they're replacing
- 54:39Trudeau, which is like, not very liked, you know, hopefully their
- 54:43party wins the election again and they can keep going.
- 54:46But I think it's deeper than that.
- 54:48Honestly, I think the worldwide political trend right now is the
- 54:53rise of the populist right. I think I'm seeing this
- 54:55worldwide. And I think for Bitcoin, I think
- 54:59it's very positive. I think I'm not a big fan of
- 55:01Fiat politics. I think it's kind of like a scam
- 55:04because it's essentially a popularity contest.
- 55:07And based on who wins the popularity contest, they control
- 55:10the money money printer. But as Bitcoiners, I think
- 55:13having politicians in power that either pass favorable Bitcoin
- 55:19legislation or leave Bitcoin alone is actually really, really
- 55:23good for the Bitcoin movement. And it seems like the populist
- 55:26right, whether it's in the United States or in Canada for
- 55:29some reason or the other, we can get into the details of that,
- 55:33but I don't think that's important.
- 55:34They seem to be supportive of Bitcoin, at least on the
- 55:38surface. Right?
- 55:39We'll see what happens with the Trump administration.
- 55:41We could be telling you something totally different in
- 55:44six months. And I will say this, Trump
- 55:46promised to free Ross on day one.
- 55:48So in 13 days, Ross should be free.
- 55:51Now I'll give him a day or the inauguration.
- 55:55No, no, no day. Yeah, yeah, the following day
- 55:57after the 21st. It would be symbolic if it's the
- 56:0021st. Yeah, on January 21st, like
- 56:04technically Ross should be free because that's he promised
- 56:09Bitcoiners, Bitcoiners delivered with the vote, right?
- 56:12We have to hold him accountable for that.
- 56:13I think he's going to keep his promise in my humble opinion.
- 56:17But you know, again, we'd Bitcoin and Bitcoiners don't
- 56:21need special treatment from the government.
- 56:24We just need the government to leave us alone on the regulatory
- 56:27perspective. We can't have Lightning wallet
- 56:29developers fleeing the United States, right?
- 56:31It's not good, right? So anyways, that's my take.
- 56:34Bram, what's your take? Wait, wait, before Bram goes and
- 56:36I just have a quick take and it's more trolley than anything
- 56:39that we are on the best timeline possible with Trudeau resigning
- 56:42and a potential, you know, another pro Bitcoin leader in
- 56:47the northern hemisphere. So I think I think it's going to
- 56:51be a great 2025. I love being on this timeline.
- 56:54Bram, jump in. You're you're muted.
- 56:57You're muted bro. That's a rookie mistake.
- 57:00I said I love the timeline. I love the idea of Ross being on
- 57:06Joe Rogan. You know, think about that and
- 57:08just telling this story to the to the entire world, you know,
- 57:12like it. It really feels like since the
- 57:16like Trump election, kind of like the pendulum has swung the
- 57:19other way. And what I love is that Nico
- 57:21just said the word liberal, right?
- 57:23Like another liberal will replace them.
- 57:25And then I felt like, liberal what?
- 57:27What does liberal actually mean? Because like liberal is used
- 57:30differently in a political sense, I think in Europe and in
- 57:35America, but then also in Canada, because in America now
- 57:37these people say I am a progressive, right?
- 57:40So they are, they stopped using the word liberal because I
- 57:44actually Googled if you Google liberal word meaning, which is
- 57:46funny, right? Because you should know what it
- 57:48is. But if you say I'm a liberal
- 57:50politician under liberal, it actually says this for the
- 57:54adjective willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions
- 57:58different from one's own. Open to new ideas?
- 58:01The other one is relating to or denoting a political or social
- 58:04philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil
- 58:07liberties, democracy and free enterprise.
- 58:10And why is it it's so crazy that all the liberal people, all the
- 58:14people that are for civil liberties are actually the ones
- 58:18that are working against freedom of speech, against freedom of
- 58:23money and, and all these things, right?
- 58:25So that's I think the main thing I took from what Nico just said,
- 58:28is like, it's just so crazy that these people still call
- 58:30themselves liberal, but they're working against all these things
- 58:34that would actually give us more freedom.
- 58:37Yeah. And so that's a really good
- 58:39point. So to answer your question,
- 58:41Bram. So essentially it's by design.
- 58:43They caught the language. Hayek mentioned this in the in
- 58:45the book Road to Serfdom. There's a reason that the
- 58:50Democratic Party, every conservative party around the
- 58:53world is essentially blue and every left wing party around the
- 58:58world is essentially red. But since the Reagan revolution,
- 59:03essentially for some reason or the other, the Republican Party
- 59:05in the United States is red in the in the Democratic Party, the
- 59:09left wing party is blue, right. Coincidence.
- 59:11And then of course you know you can go into the the rabbit hole
- 59:14of. Reagan upside down.
- 59:16You can go. You can go into the very famous
- 59:19red flag that. Way, yeah, and then you.
- 59:21Can go. Into the, you can go into the
- 59:23rabbit hole of, you know, Reagan essentially ending the USSR and
- 59:27all that stuff. But again, we don't have to talk
- 59:29about that. I'm just mentioning it.
- 59:31But anyways, should we? Should we hit the?
- 59:35Should we hit the? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 59:36Let's, let's get in the culture, guys.
- 59:38We're going to talk about Bram and his content creation.
- 59:40We have, we have, we have lots to talk about guys.
- 59:43So we're going to hit the culture.
- 59:44We'll be right back. Bram is an up one of the best up
- 59:48and coming Bitcoin podcasters that came out of nowhere, came
- 59:52into the Bitcoin scene. He's making incredible content.
- 59:55I believe he just joined on ramp Bitcoin as well.
- 59:59So we're going to talk about Bram.
- 1:00:00We're going to talk about his podcast.
- 1:00:01We're going to talk about what he's doing.
- 1:00:03He says he makes some. Incredible content.
- 1:00:05So we'll be right back. We're going to hit the culture.
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- 1:02:20our guest today. Adding has been adding
- 1:02:23phenomenal commentary all day long about all the various
- 1:02:26topics that we've been talking about.
- 1:02:29We got Bram in the house. We're going to pull up his
- 1:02:32YouTube channel. Here we go.
- 1:02:34This is the website, I got it right here.
- 1:02:37OK, let's pull up. There we go.
- 1:02:40First of all, incredible branding, great colors, and Bram
- 1:02:44is known to bring some of the best guests in the space.
- 1:02:48We got our boy James from Stamp Seat in the house.
- 1:02:52We got CJ, we got Jeff Booth, we got wine a kiss.
- 1:02:57Next to me, we got Neil Jacobs, we got Caitlin Long.
- 1:03:02I'm going to put the camera on Wine a kiss, Wine a kiss.
- 1:03:05What's a knack? Wine.
- 1:03:06A kiss? What's a knack?
- 1:03:0769 sats are the standard. Wine a kiss.
- 1:03:11We got Neil Jacobs. We got Caitlin Long.
- 1:03:16We got Bitcoin Shooter. We got Michael Saylor.
- 1:03:18Himself Bitstein. Yeah, we got Brandon from Green
- 1:03:24Lit Canada. We got here with.
- 1:03:25Charlie, you get the point. You get pulling Bram.
- 1:03:28Books some legends, he books Bitcoin legends to come in his
- 1:03:32awesome podcast. You go give him a follow at
- 1:03:35Bitcoin Bram on YouTube. He has 12,700 subscribers
- 1:03:40already and it's just growing from there.
- 1:03:43Bram Well, dude, you came on the scene out of nowhere, you hit
- 1:03:46the branding, you got it perfectly.
- 1:03:48Bran and branding. Maybe there's something there's
- 1:03:51something there, maybe there is isn't, but yeah, man.
- 1:03:54Well, dude, welcome to the show. Big fan of your work.
- 1:03:57Big fan of your podcast, I believe.
- 1:03:59I think I was a guest once on your podcast.
- 1:04:01I appreciate that invitation. What?
- 1:04:04Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- 1:04:04I think we have it scheduled, right.
- 1:04:07So I'm really excited for that. Well, thank you for coming on
- 1:04:101st to ours. I appreciate that.
- 1:04:13So, dude, where'd you come from? You just came out of nowhere,
- 1:04:16man. What happened?
- 1:04:17I just, you know, and then you had it you.
- 1:04:19Had it? You had a different name.
- 1:04:21It was Bitcoin for millennials. It's the podcast is called
- 1:04:24Bitcoin for Millennials. So if you search on like
- 1:04:26Spotify, Apple, etcetera, it's Bitcoin for millennials.
- 1:04:31So these videos with the guests are a part of the podcast
- 1:04:34Bitcoin for millennials. And yeah, this was the last time
- 1:04:36that we were live with Katie. That was that was fire too.
- 1:04:39And yeah, I'm gonna I I really want to post like more stand
- 1:04:43alone videos and stuff as well. Like it's been mostly been
- 1:04:46podcast, the podcast, but I'm working with the editor now.
- 1:04:50And so this year we're really going to focus on like also
- 1:04:54publishing more standalone videos.
- 1:04:56And I think that's a fun question.
- 1:04:58Like where did you come from? Like I just said, like I've been
- 1:05:00lurking. I've been in Bitcoin since 2014.
- 1:05:03I think I've been lurking, I want to say lurking, just
- 1:05:07tweeting about it sometime, but not really contributing.
- 1:05:10And then like just over a year ago, so like September 23, I, I
- 1:05:16started with a podcast. Yeah, that's just really when I
- 1:05:20decided like every day I wake up, I think about Bitcoin and I
- 1:05:24thought like the rest of my life, I'm going to think about
- 1:05:26Bitcoin. So I really want to contribute
- 1:05:28to it. And then I thought, fuck it, why
- 1:05:30not another podcast. But yeah, really focused on
- 1:05:34millennials. You know, like, I think there's
- 1:05:37two things why Bitcoin is perfect for millennials. 1 is
- 1:05:41that we have a huge problem, like the whole idea of
- 1:05:47retirement or following the path that your parents or your
- 1:05:51grandparents followed, right? Like you go to school, you get
- 1:05:54an education, you get a job, you get a house, a family, etcetera.
- 1:05:57Like all these things, like just the easiness of how that came to
- 1:06:03them is yeah, gone basically. Shout out to planet Earth, you
- 1:06:10know, that's basically gone. And I had a fascinating
- 1:06:12conversation with Tom Carrazza where we talked about, you know,
- 1:06:17let's say you want to have like a luxury retirement, right?
- 1:06:21And you're thinking about like a luxury for me would be like
- 1:06:24going on A10, a $10,000 holiday every year.
- 1:06:27Like that would be ultimate luxury, right?
- 1:06:30And so if you know, I'm late 30s, if I would calculate, you
- 1:06:33know, over the next 30 years until my retirement, there's a
- 1:06:377% inflation each year, which is very conservative, OK, After
- 1:06:45seven years, this vacation will not be 10K, it will be $37,000
- 1:06:53units, right? So you would need $37,000 units
- 1:06:56to go on that same type of holiday.
- 1:06:59And if you would just have $10,000 units in your
- 1:07:03retirement, right in that year, you could only go on a holiday,
- 1:07:07which is equivalent to what is now $3000 basically.
- 1:07:12And when we talked through that, you know, we realized that no
- 1:07:16one is thinking about how many dollar units do I actually need
- 1:07:20to mitigate inflation so that I can do XYZ in my retirement,
- 1:07:26right? And then of course, people say,
- 1:07:27well, you put it in a retirement fund and that invests and blah,
- 1:07:30blah, blah. But we've seen that the S&P 500
- 1:07:34basically returns the inflation and you are flat on any, any,
- 1:07:40any profit. So you only mitigate the
- 1:07:42inflation. And like, who's gonna do that
- 1:07:45for 30 years? You know, that's also another
- 1:07:47fault I have like who's gonna DCA $100 a month in the S&P 500
- 1:07:53for 30 years and then have like the one point something,
- 1:07:55something or two point something, something $1,000,000
- 1:07:57that like all the the the the finance people talk about like
- 1:08:01who who's going to do that? Right.
- 1:08:02So that entire Ave. of making sure that you save towards your
- 1:08:10future, you lower the uncertainty towards your future
- 1:08:12so you can actually be optimistic about your future,
- 1:08:16you know, and build a family and eventually go into retirement.
- 1:08:19Like that whole structure is totally gone.
- 1:08:22And now someone says like the baby boomers are completely out
- 1:08:25of touch and don't believe how bad things are.
- 1:08:28That is true. But yeah, So what?
- 1:08:31Like why should we point at the baby boomers?
- 1:08:33Like we have a problem to solve? And I think that problem can be
- 1:08:37solved by adopting Bitcoin as the ultimate savings technology
- 1:08:41for us. And why are millennials so well
- 1:08:45prepped to actually understand Bitcoin is because we have lived
- 1:08:49through every big or not every big.
- 1:08:54We weren't there with the car and all that stuff, but not like
- 1:08:57in our youth we went from cassette tapes to CDs to
- 1:09:01minidisc to MP3 to eventually streaming.
- 1:09:05Same as with, you know, the TV, same as with VHS tapes to DVDs
- 1:09:09and etcetera. Like we understand how things
- 1:09:13that seem ingrained as technology in our society
- 1:09:18actually changes. And if you think about gold,
- 1:09:20like just shiny rocks are saving in money that devalues
- 1:09:25programmatically over time, those are inferior ways that you
- 1:09:29can save towards your future. And I really think that our
- 1:09:33generation is poised to understand that perfectly.
- 1:09:38And it's our biggest opportunity to actually have a better future
- 1:09:42than our better life that our parents did, and actually also
- 1:09:45give that to our children, like the Boomers had real estate,
- 1:09:48Gen. X at the S&P 500, and Bitcoin is
- 1:09:51basically the S&P 500 for millennials.
- 1:09:53So that's the reason why I started the podcast.
- 1:09:56And yeah, it's been fun. To see how going.
- 1:09:59I love that Bitcoin is essentially the S&P 500 for
- 1:10:03millennials. That is one hundred 100% agreed.
- 1:10:07Yeah. I mean, because it just.
- 1:10:08It's like, you know, when you're trying to build wealth, like,
- 1:10:13you know, an 8% return a year on a, on a Goodyear, right, S&P, if
- 1:10:18you factor in inflation, right, you're really not growing your
- 1:10:21wealth. So unless you have like a
- 1:10:23substantial amount of wealth, you know that five 8% isn't
- 1:10:28going to take you anywhere, right?
- 1:10:30So you see Bitcoin and you're like, wow, you know, you know,
- 1:10:34if, if Sailor's right and we're getting a 30 to 40% compound
- 1:10:38interest rate of 30 to 40% for the next 20 years, like I could
- 1:10:43actually retire. I could actually, you know, have
- 1:10:46a house. I, I actually, I can have
- 1:10:48dignity in my life. You know, I, I'll actually own
- 1:10:51something and be happy rather than falling for the boomer
- 1:10:55propaganda of you own nothing and be happy.
- 1:10:57Everything's OK. I'll add two things.
- 1:10:59I'll add two things because I see two comments that that stand
- 1:11:02out to me right, Like 1 was SAT wise that mentioned the boomers,
- 1:11:07he says. Well, the reality is they have
- 1:11:09all the capital. That's why I'm pointing at them
- 1:11:10very true, but they're all gonna die right.
- 1:11:13That's why Bitcoin is the. And and and they're gonna and
- 1:11:17it's because of natural. Classes OK.
- 1:11:20It's biological, right? It just they will.
- 1:11:23Pass. On Yeah, the new.
- 1:11:25Generation. That's that's, that's the cycle
- 1:11:28of life. I'm too sweet, guys.
- 1:11:30Come on. They're.
- 1:11:31I know, I know these these sensors got us PTSD here.
- 1:11:38Three companies own 88% of the SOP.
- 1:11:40Anyway, they got ahead OK. The whole point is they had a
- 1:11:43vehicle. The other generations had a
- 1:11:45vehicle to go ahead. And the boomers will die and
- 1:11:47this will be one of the biggest wealth trends.
- 1:11:50Die of natural causes, guys, they will usher in the biggest
- 1:11:55wealth transfer of our time. And now you have to think about
- 1:11:59your you have to think for yourself if you're a millennial
- 1:12:01or Gen. Z, how am I going to safeguard
- 1:12:05that inheritance? If you're lucky enough to get an
- 1:12:08inheritance, I don't get any inheritance, for example, but if
- 1:12:11you get something, how are you going to safeguard that?
- 1:12:13Are you going to go to some financial advisor who says like,
- 1:12:17Oh yeah, this Bitcoin thing that is already existing for 16 years
- 1:12:22and countries are buying and the president is going to by ETC.
- 1:12:25Oh, no, no, that's too risky that's too risky.
- 1:12:27Like you don't you don't need these people just as like we are
- 1:12:30all the media now all the information is out there for
- 1:12:34free on the on the Internet. You don't need any intermediary
- 1:12:38to figure out how to store your wealth towards the future.
- 1:12:42And so yes, they have the money, but this wealth transfer is
- 1:12:46coming. That's one.
- 1:12:47And I saw another another comment that said I have to
- 1:12:52Scroll down. Man, Chad crazy.
- 1:12:54Chad's crazy. And simply, Chad is lit.
- 1:13:00Give me, give me one second. I'm scrolling down.
- 1:13:03Wow, guys, stop talking. Oh yeah, about the AI.
- 1:13:09Like people still haven't taken in that AI is arriving and will
- 1:13:12change it all. That's so true.
- 1:13:14If you boomers are going Luigi, rumors are going Luigi.
- 1:13:23OK, so you know, the AI thing, if you, if you go to my YouTube
- 1:13:27channel, I have a I have a podcast with Jeff Booth, like
- 1:13:30one of the latest videos where I asked him like 20 questions from
- 1:13:33from people on X that send me in questions that I asked him.
- 1:13:36And we extensively talked about, you know, this AI boom.
- 1:13:39And, and what is very interesting is that of course
- 1:13:42Jeff Booth talks about that improved technology improves
- 1:13:47productivity, which eventually lowers prices of everything.
- 1:13:51So he says deflation of all the prices and technology, etcetera
- 1:13:54is natural. AI is going to create a crazy
- 1:13:59productivity boom, right? The robots and the software is
- 1:14:03all going to do all our tasks for us and we're going to
- 1:14:07optimize a lot of things which should actually drive prices
- 1:14:12down. But because we price everything
- 1:14:14in a money that's inflationary, right, more units are created
- 1:14:18all the time to service the debt of America and America has the
- 1:14:23world reserve currency so they export all the all the
- 1:14:25inflation. There's actually a very big
- 1:14:28battle going on of deflationary technology that is battling
- 1:14:32against inflationary field money that can only be inflated for
- 1:14:37the system to to exist. So if you're going to measure
- 1:14:42all the AI productivity gains in that are deflationary,
- 1:14:46eventually in an inflationary money, you're going to offset
- 1:14:49like all those gains. And so technologically, AI is,
- 1:14:53is the biggest boom of of our lifetime and should bring the
- 1:14:57most prosperity, but we will fuck that up if we keep using
- 1:15:01Fiat money. So when I talked with Jeff about
- 1:15:04it, he said Bitcoin is basically the best AI play that you can
- 1:15:08make because the best way to price all the productivity gains
- 1:15:12that come from AI is in Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the best and
- 1:15:16most stable measuring stick of value, of economic value in the
- 1:15:20world. Because we know that one Bitcoin
- 1:15:22will forever be one Bitcoin. And that in itself that security
- 1:15:27or that assertion towards the future is actually the value
- 1:15:31that Bitcoin produces. So I wanted to add on that
- 1:15:34because I saw that like a lot of people talk about, Oh, well, all
- 1:15:36the AI stuff. Yeah, AI.
- 1:15:38The convergence of AI and Bitcoin is perfect timing.
- 1:15:43Love it, love it. Yeah.
- 1:15:45And and then one of the things that too like that Jeff
- 1:15:47mentioned or I love this, right, which is like what would happen
- 1:15:51to AI under a Fiat standard and what would happen with AI under
- 1:15:55a Bitcoin standard? And it's totally different
- 1:15:57because AI under a Fiat standard, it would be coercive
- 1:16:01by nature in order to keep the system in in to to keep the
- 1:16:06system continuing. But an AI under a Bitcoin
- 1:16:10standard, again, because all the incentives are aligned, because
- 1:16:13it's a non coercive system, it's an incentive based system, AI
- 1:16:17could actually work to your benefit.
- 1:16:19And one of the things too, that Jeff pointed out, and I love the
- 1:16:22way that Jeff looks at this, which is that he makes the case
- 1:16:25that the world is naturally deflationary.
- 1:16:28And Bitcoin is the only unit of account that is actually able to
- 1:16:33portray that because everything else is so manipulated and
- 1:16:36controlled by governments. And it creates this
- 1:16:39artificiality where the world is inflationary, where it shouldn't
- 1:16:43be because of all the technological and productivity
- 1:16:47advances that we've had, you know, as a society over the last
- 1:16:52100 years. And we don't see this like, you
- 1:16:55know, and to go back to the name of your podcast, Bram, and
- 1:16:58we'll, we'll, we'll kind of wrap it up with this, like, you know,
- 1:17:02why are we poorer than our parents?
- 1:17:05Like we have better technology, better productivity.
- 1:17:09Why are we poor? The answer is Fiat.
- 1:17:13The answer is inflation. Like that is the answer.
- 1:17:16One thing that we should not be. Poor one thing that Why is it
- 1:17:20funny? Why is it a joke when you say
- 1:17:22like, like, oh, in the 1960s a bread was $0.50 and now a bread
- 1:17:28is $5. Ha ha, ha, like that, you know,
- 1:17:30like that's like a common joke. But why is that?
- 1:17:33It's not because the the energy or the machines, you know, have
- 1:17:40become less productive in making bread.
- 1:17:43You know, in general, any technology has advanced since
- 1:17:4750-60 years ago. But why is the product of that
- 1:17:50technology? Why does do you need more units?
- 1:17:53You know, does an apple need more energy from the sun to, to
- 1:17:59become an apple? You know, like, no, but you pay
- 1:18:02more dollar units for the apple and for the bread.
- 1:18:05And that's because the those units themselves that you use to
- 1:18:09price all these things in, those are losing value, right?
- 1:18:12But still people are laughing like, Oh yeah, it used to be
- 1:18:14like $0.50 back in the day. Like that's how bad it is guys.
- 1:18:17Like that should be a signal for you.
- 1:18:19That's how far off we are from the scale.
- 1:18:22Because if you think about technological advancements that
- 1:18:25have been done in 60 years, priced correctly, you know, in
- 1:18:29not in an inflationary money. Why are people still hungry?
- 1:18:33Why isn't there free bread? Why don't I have like a little
- 1:18:35pill that I pop in a in some water and then like a breath
- 1:18:39comes out right? Like why aren't we?
- 1:18:41Why aren't we there not even talking about?
- 1:18:44Why airline travel getting more miserable?
- 1:18:48Why is airplane airplane from the 70s?
- 1:18:50They serve steak dude like they they they have.
- 1:18:53Spacious and had like really nice carpet and like comfy seas
- 1:18:56it was. It was, it was, it was pretty
- 1:18:59crazy. It was pretty crazy.
- 1:19:00Anyways, we are getting to the top of the hour.
- 1:19:03I do want to give a shout out to the poll.
- 1:19:05I asked you guys on the YouTube poll.
- 1:19:07I said what will the Bitcoin top be in 2020?
- 1:19:10539% of you guys said 300 K plus 22% of you guys said 150 K
- 1:19:17bearish, 20% said 200 K 17% of you guys said 250K and 353 of
- 1:19:24you guys voted. So wait, wait, Nico.
- 1:19:26And this poll itself is bearish. So what are you doing here?
- 1:19:30I Bram, I I do want to give you the opportunity to say the last
- 1:19:34words to our audience. Why don't you tell everybody?
- 1:19:36Nothing. Wait, wait.
- 1:19:36I want to tweet this. Nico, I want to tweet this.
- 1:19:40Do all right, Bram, you have a podcast named Bitcoin for
- 1:19:44Millennials. So if there happens to be a
- 1:19:47millennial here that sat through the whole show, they're still on
- 1:19:50the fence. What would be your two-minute
- 1:19:53elevator pitch on why they should be buying Bitcoin?
- 1:19:56And then you can plug all your socials.
- 1:19:58Because you have no future. You have no future in.
- 1:20:03Money where in a world where the money is inflationary, you'll
- 1:20:07keep running on the hamster wheel that will never stop for
- 1:20:11you because everything that's promised towards the future, for
- 1:20:14example, in America and like All in all the other countries,
- 1:20:17there's the same type of money system.
- 1:20:19If you go to theusdebtclock.org, on the top left, you see the the
- 1:20:24US debt. But what's even worse is if you
- 1:20:26go to the bottom right, you see unfunded liabilities which are
- 1:20:29over $200 trillion. Those are all promises that have
- 1:20:34been put on paper and promised to, in this case, the people of
- 1:20:38America. And if America actually wants to
- 1:20:41pay for that, they have to print themselves into oblivion, which
- 1:20:44will inflate this currency crazy and everything will implode all
- 1:20:48around the world, which I hope won't happen.
- 1:20:52But the writing is on the wall. And so the thing you have to do
- 1:20:56is start thinking for yourself. Start realizing that the future
- 1:21:00is not as pretty as you thought it would and study Bitcoin and
- 1:21:04really study it before you get into it.
- 1:21:07Because eventually when you get it that this is a money that has
- 1:21:11absolute scarcity, which is the greatest invention of our time,
- 1:21:14that then you will also realize that this is the best savings
- 1:21:18technology that you can use to lower the uncertainty towards
- 1:21:21the future future. To actually have a positive
- 1:21:23outlook on the future, which will make you have a positive
- 1:21:26outlook in the now and will turn you into a builder instead of
- 1:21:30the consumer that you're forced to be.
- 1:21:31Because your money that you have now, the Fiat money you have now
- 1:21:34is worth the most today. That's why you're spending it on
- 1:21:38all this stupid shit. And you should be saving towards
- 1:21:41your future. And the only way to do that is
- 1:21:43with Bitcoin. Let's go.
- 1:21:46OK, Bram? Great.
- 1:21:49Someone take this out. I'm brought away from Nico
- 1:21:51Brian. When you plug your socials, your
- 1:21:54Twitter, your YouTube, wherever you want to direct people.
- 1:21:57And then we'll wrap up today's show.
- 1:21:59Yeah, socials very easy. I think it's on the screen.
- 1:22:01I'm on X Bramk BR AM K and people can find my podcast
- 1:22:06Bitcoin for Millennials on Spotify, Apple fountain
- 1:22:09everywhere. Also, if you type it on YouTube
- 1:22:11and on YouTube, it's Bitcoin Bram.
- 1:22:12So hopefully see you there and thanks guys again for the
- 1:22:14opportunity to chat. So I appreciate you.
- 1:22:17Love, love it man. Thank you so much for joining us
- 1:22:20guys. This was January 7th, 2024.
- 1:22:23Simply Bitcoin live in the host seat today Optimus feels filling
- 1:22:27in for me while my my throat recovers.
- 1:22:29Hopefully I won't wake up. It will be better tomorrow.
- 1:22:32But shout out to Opti for coming in hot and of course, our
- 1:22:35special guest for today, Bram Canstein.
- 1:22:40Well done, brother. Go give him a follow.
- 1:22:43Nailed it. Go give him a follow.
- 1:22:45Great up and coming Bitcoin content creator.
- 1:22:47Huge fan of his work, so definitely go give him a follow
- 1:22:51on all the socials. Anyways, guys, if you guys
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