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The Muster Full Show: 30/10/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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  Speaker 1: Nathan Abernethy of Regional 4 joins us on this blustery
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  Speaker 1: cool spring afternoon down here in the Deep South.
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  Speaker 2: G'day, Nathan.
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  Speaker 3: G'day, Andy.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to believe it's... Well, I guess it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's not hard to believe it's spring because this seems
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  Speaker 4: to be the norm these days, but, oh, jingoes, you'd
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  Speaker 4: almost swear it was winter. It's pretty ordinary out there, but, however,
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  Speaker 4: it is pretty much the end of another month, tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: being the last day, and, yeah, we're just having a
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  Speaker 4: tidy up here today, getting the last of the registrations
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  Speaker 4: of new vehicles done, getting a lot of the used
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  Speaker 4: vehicles through out onto the guard.
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  Speaker 3: At the moment.
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  Speaker 4: We've extended our used vehicle light yard. We've put a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the new vehicles across the road now. We've
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  Speaker 4: got another site across the road, which gives us a
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  Speaker 4: bit more room. So we've extended our used vehicles on
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  Speaker 4: our showroom side. So we've probably got another 10 or
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  Speaker 4: 15 secondhand double cab trucks in here at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: So that's good. That's what we were wanting to do.
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  Speaker 4: But look, there's no shortage of choice, whether it be
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  Speaker 4: all brands. We've just had a really nice Hilux 2021.
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  Speaker 4: I think it is double cab Hilux going with about
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  Speaker 4: 60,000 Ks. It's a manual one, a charcoal grey. Really,
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  Speaker 4: really nice truck. Really tidy. And, of course, in a manual,
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  Speaker 4: there's not a lot of trucks in manual these days.
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  Speaker 4: We've got Nissans. We've got Mitsis. We've got plenty of
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  Speaker 4: good ranges. We've got the full range. And probably anything
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  Speaker 4: from sort of 16,000 for a diesel four-drive double cab
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  Speaker 4: and perhaps a 2014 sort of thing. up to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: mid-60s for a late, late model Ranger Raptor, all dressed
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  Speaker 4: up with the 20-inch wheels and stuff. We've got finance.
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  Speaker 4: You can come in, we can price your truck, we
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  Speaker 4: can give you the payment, and within an hour or so,
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  Speaker 4: I reckon we can have you drive out in that vehicle,
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  Speaker 4: and you pretty much determine how you want the payments
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  Speaker 4: to be, what you want to pay a month, whether
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  Speaker 4: you want balloon payments at the end, whether you want
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  Speaker 4: monthly payments with a balloon payment every year, you pretty
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  Speaker 4: much tell us how to do it, and Cody will
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  Speaker 4: tailor the finance to suit. So, Look, the month's about done.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, tomorrow's the last day. We're just tidying up
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  Speaker 4: everything here today, but it's busy, and let's hope the
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  Speaker 4: sun starts to shine. We're going to be here till five,
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  Speaker 4: but doors will be open again at half past nine.
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  Speaker 4: And remember that it's not just new and used vehicles,
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  Speaker 4: it's servicing and parts, and of course, not to forget
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  Speaker 4: the guys up in Belclutha with Bridgestone tyres as well.
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  Speaker 2: Good on you, Nath. Stay dry.
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  Speaker 3: Will do. Thanks, Andy.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. Andy
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  Speaker 1: Muir here. This show is brought to you by Peter Genetics.
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  Speaker 1: On this terribly average afternoon here in Gore, weather-wise, sprawly
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  Speaker 1: showers coming through, sleet falling in places, hailstorms occurring as well.
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  Speaker 1: So wrap up warm if you are coming into G-Town
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  Speaker 1: this afternoon. But one thing about this time of year,
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  Speaker 1: like Nath said, almost the end of the year, almost
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  Speaker 1: the end of the month, sorry. So the SBS Bank
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  Speaker 1: Tour of Southland is just around the corner, and the
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  Speaker 1: Southland Rural Support Trust has got on board.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing coffee shouts next.
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  Speaker 1: Week for the week and the duration of the SBS
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  Speaker 1: Bank Tour of Southland, starting next Monday at the Waimumu
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  Speaker 1: Hall car park.
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  Speaker 2: Waimumu Hall car park, it should be, at 11am. Then
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  Speaker 2: at Oropoki, Mosburn....
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  Speaker 1: Gropers Bush and Woodlands as well during the week. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about them. Southland Rural Support Trust as well.
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  Speaker 1: 0800 787 254 if you need to have a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with somebody at the other end. The music today is
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  Speaker 1: a group called The Cult. They were once called the
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  Speaker 1: Deaf Cult, but they shortened it. This afternoon, as you
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  Speaker 1: can imagine, rain with brisk west to south westerlies and
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  Speaker 1: a high of 7. Saturday, cloudy with breezy south westerlies,
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  Speaker 1: 3 and 14. Rinse and repeat on Sunday, cloudy with
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  Speaker 1: breezy south westerlies, 10 and 18. Monday, light rain with
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  Speaker 1: breezy south westerlies, 6 and 13. And Tuesday, sunshine with
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  Speaker 1: breezy easterlies, 6 and 16.
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  Speaker 2: Goodness me.
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  Speaker 1: So temperatures to hand, northern south in 10.4, rivers in 10.8,
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  Speaker 1: Te Anau 11.3, Titaroa 10.4, Winton.
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  Speaker 2: 10.1 and Woodlands at 9.6. Phil Duncan of Weatherwatch looks
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  Speaker 2: at the forecast for the south for the next seven days.
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  Speaker 1: Classic El Nino at the moment by the sounds of it.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Cochran of NSFETS is on the show. Michelle Watt
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  Speaker 1: joins us for the Country Crossover. She's an avid cycling fan,
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  Speaker 1: is Michelle, so she talks about the Tour of Southland.
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  Speaker 2: Henry Buckingham, based at Tokanui.
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  Speaker 1: Remembering Henry changed his lambing date, going to early October,
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  Speaker 1: so we have a catch-up to see how the lambing
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  Speaker 1: season's worked out for him. The weather has been good
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  Speaker 1: over the past few weeks as well. And then our
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  Speaker 1: resident sporting guru, Nathan Burden, ahead of the long weekend
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  Speaker 1: of sport, or a big weekend of sport. Long weekend
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  Speaker 1: was the weekend being, wasn't it? Anyhow, we start the
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  Speaker 1: hour next to Phil Duncan. This is The Muster, and
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  Speaker 1: it's brought to you by Peters Genetics.
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  Speaker 5: Phil Duncan of Weatherwatch joins us as he does every
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  Speaker 5: Friday here on the muster.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm here to remind you of the mess you
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  Speaker 6: left when you went away. It's not fair to deny
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  Speaker 6: me of the.
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  Speaker 2: Christ Good afternoon, Phil.
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  Speaker 7: Good afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a couple of weeks. I've got to be
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  Speaker 1: up front with you, Phil. We've had a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: spell of weather since we haven't been talking.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the weatherman goes away at good times. I'm good
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  Speaker 7: at doing that. Yeah, it was cold. It got cold
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  Speaker 7: at the end. I know that because I was up
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  Speaker 7: in far north Queensland, up in the tropical area. And
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  Speaker 7: we were getting alerts on my Weather Watch app for
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  Speaker 7: back home in New Zealand saying a frost is possible
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  Speaker 7: in Auckland.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what?
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  Speaker 7: What on earth is going on back in New Zealand? So, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: we're back into a cold run of weather at the moment.
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  Speaker 7: But things are going to warm back up again. We're
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  Speaker 7: not completely stuck in this place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not overly warm today.
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  Speaker 1: Summer sports starts tomorrow, Saturday sports for that matter.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's going to be cold.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the temperatures are lifting back up again. Today is
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  Speaker 7: a cold day. I describe today as a wintry day
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  Speaker 7: for the South Island. I don't use that term too loosely. So,
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  Speaker 7: you know, that's usually when you're seeing a number of
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  Speaker 7: places with single-digit temperatures. For example, Gore today. So it
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  Speaker 7: is a cold day. But it does bounce back up tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: So our maximum for Gore is 7 today. I think
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  Speaker 7: it could go higher than that.
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  Speaker 3: But you get the idea. It's not overly warm.
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  Speaker 7: Tonight's low is 3. That's not very warm. But tomorrow
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  Speaker 7: bounces back up to 16, and Sunday bounces back up
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  Speaker 7: to 19. And by the time we get to the
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  Speaker 7: middle of next week, Wednesday and Thursday, we could be
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  Speaker 7: back into the 20s again. So we are definitely seeing
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  Speaker 7: the temperatures lift back up. Not necessarily every single day,
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  Speaker 7: but today stands out as being a particularly cold day,
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  Speaker 7: as was yesterday. So, yes, it is cold and it's wet.
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  Speaker 7: You're getting these downpours, these areas of rain moving on
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  Speaker 7: through at the moment. They'll break up as we go
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  Speaker 7: through today, and you'll get some longer dry spells coming
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  Speaker 7: back in again. But yeah, we're caught up in a
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  Speaker 7: proper wintry southwesterly wind that's coming up, being dredged up
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  Speaker 7: from well south.
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  Speaker 3: Of New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: Is this El Niño?
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  Speaker 7: Probably, yeah. El Niño, you know, something I said in
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  Speaker 7: another interview today, El Niño does get a lot of headlines,
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  Speaker 7: and it deserves it, because it does produce some significant weather.
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  Speaker 7: But the biggest difference between El Niño and its opposite,
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  Speaker 7: La Niña, is the weather is not usually as dramatic.
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  Speaker 7: So La Nina, that's the opposite, right? That produces all
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  Speaker 7: that humidity. We get lots of thunderstorms and big downpours,
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  Speaker 7: and we get tropical cyclones more likely. That's what we
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  Speaker 7: get with La Nina. So it's kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 7: lots to talk about. El Nino is boring. El Nino
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  Speaker 7: doesn't produce that really exciting weather very often. Quite often,
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  Speaker 7: it just extends the spring and autumn weather. So we
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  Speaker 7: end up with more days with westerlies. And if they're
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  Speaker 7: northwesterlies and they're subtropical, it's hot and pushing temperatures up
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  Speaker 7: above normal. But it only has to swing a little
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  Speaker 7: bit to what we've got today, a west-southwesterly, and it's
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  Speaker 7: cold and it's winter-like and produces cloud and showers. So
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  Speaker 7: El Nino is not as spectacular, but what it can
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  Speaker 7: do is produce over many months, sort of death by
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  Speaker 7: paper cuts, really, you start to notice, oh, wow, we're
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  Speaker 7: getting into a very dry situation. Or if You might
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  Speaker 7: notice when you get those nor'westers or those northerlies, wow,
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  Speaker 7: it's warm today. It's much warmer than usual. But then
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  Speaker 7: three days later, you get a cold change come back
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  Speaker 7: in again. So it's not quite as headlining and as
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  Speaker 7: exciting as what La Nina gets. But El Nino is
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  Speaker 7: noticeable over time. And so your comment is this El Nino.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 7: And we're seeing it perhaps more so in the North
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  Speaker 7: Island with drier weather kicking in. We're seeing a number
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  Speaker 7: of regions that are drier than usual now, like Northland
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  Speaker 7: and Bay of Plenty and Waikato, Manawatu. In the South Island,
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  Speaker 7: you're actually leaning a bit wetter than usual or you're
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  Speaker 7: about where you should be from a soil moisture point
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  Speaker 7: of view. But what you're noticing more in the South Island,
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  Speaker 7: cold fronts. The cold fronts bringing heavy west coast rain
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  Speaker 7: and some spillover into Southland and some spillover into Otago.
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  Speaker 7: That's what we're noticing over the last couple of months
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  Speaker 7: as El Nino starts to set in.
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  Speaker 1: So what are we seeing for November based on that?
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  Speaker 1: Is it going to be wetter and cooler?
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  Speaker 7: I think that we're going to have variety. I don't
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  Speaker 7: necessarily think it'll be cooler than usual, but you will
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  Speaker 7: have a higher chance than perhaps previous years of getting...
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  Speaker 7: these wintry blasts like we're getting right now. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: we get those, certainly Southland and Otago get them right
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  Speaker 7: through spring. But I think usually by the time we're
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  Speaker 7: past Labor Day and we're going into November, they're pretty
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  Speaker 7: few and far between. This year, they might be a
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  Speaker 7: little more regular. So you may still get a cold
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  Speaker 7: front every or twice a week, maybe, brushing the island.
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  Speaker 7: So we're not completely finished with these colder changes, but
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  Speaker 7: I think we'll start to notice more days in between
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  Speaker 7: where we're getting back into the 20s. But it is
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  Speaker 7: fair to say that El Nino, it's all about that wind,
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  Speaker 7: that westerly wind direction for you guys. And so a
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  Speaker 7: west to northwesterly is warm, a west to southwesterly is not.
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  Speaker 7: And there's a fine line between those two So I
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  Speaker 7: think that's what you should be kind of psychologically preparing
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  Speaker 7: for as we go in towards November and December.
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  Speaker 2: OK, how long is this weather system supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: around for?
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  Speaker 7: Well, we've got our Nino right through to probably the
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  Speaker 7: start of winter of next year. So it's peaking this month,
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  Speaker 7: or November it peaks. So it may be peaking around
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  Speaker 7: the end of November and going into the start of December.
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  Speaker 7: and then it will start to taper off. But it's
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  Speaker 7: the summer months and the early autumn months that we
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  Speaker 7: often notice it the most in New Zealand, because that's
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  Speaker 7: when regions that are drying out start to say, hey,
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  Speaker 7: where is the rain? And we're looking at more of
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  Speaker 7: the same coming through. So that's where it becomes a problem.
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  Speaker 7: For you guys, I don't think rainfall is yet a problem.
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  Speaker 7: We're obviously getting rain today, and we've got more on
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  Speaker 7: the way. In fact, over the next 10 days, there's
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  Speaker 7: not huge amounts, but there's between sort of 15 and
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  Speaker 7: 30 millimetres coming through. So it's a regular top up
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  Speaker 7: of showers and sort of downpours like you're getting today,
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  Speaker 7: then dry for a few days and then it comes
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  Speaker 7: back or dry for a day or two and then
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  Speaker 7: it comes back. So it's a very typical spring weather
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  Speaker 7: pattern for Southland and Otago and Fiordland and Westland. right
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  Speaker 7: through the next month.
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  Speaker 1: Now, as you look at your weather watch generator, 5000 Weathertron,
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  Speaker 1: which has linked to some pretty significant satellites up in
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  Speaker 1: the sky, if you were to summarise the weather for
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  Speaker 1: the next two weeks down here in the south, what
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  Speaker 1: would you say?
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  Speaker 7: Variety. You've got a variety. You've got a bit of
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  Speaker 7: everything coming through, which is not the case for all
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  Speaker 7: other parts of the country. So you've got the four
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  Speaker 7: seasons in one week kind of thing. And I think
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  Speaker 7: that's probably the easiest way to sum it up for you.
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  Speaker 7: We're on the edge of a lot of systems as well.
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  Speaker 7: So we're not getting high pressure parked over us. We're
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  Speaker 7: on the edge of highs. That's another thing that El
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  Speaker 7: Nino does. We get a lot of high pressure in
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  Speaker 7: the Tasman Sea. We get a lot of high pressure
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  Speaker 7: just north of New Zealand. But the number of highs
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  Speaker 7: that park themselves right over the top of us usually reduces,
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  Speaker 7: especially now in spring.
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  Speaker 1: Phil Duncan of Weather Watch, we always appreciate your time
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  Speaker 1: on the muster.
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  Speaker 2: You enjoy your weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Will do, man.
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  Speaker 1: You too. Phil Duncan of Weatherwatch, home of the Weathertron.
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  Speaker 1: Up next on the muster, we're away to Riversdale. We're
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  Speaker 1: catching up with Andrew Cochran of NSVets.
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  Speaker 2: The muster's animal health segment with NSVets. Adding value through
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  Speaker 2: practical advice and service. No gimmicks, no potions. Total vet care.
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  Speaker 7: Woo!
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Cochran of NSVETS in Riversdale joins us once again.
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  Speaker 2: Cochran, good afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: We spoke to you, or the last time we spoke
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  Speaker 1: to you was in September. We've moved on from that
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  Speaker 1: period now, thank goodness, although it's a correction in the
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  Speaker 1: weather today.
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  Speaker 2: How's the situation been on the ground?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's back to being a wee bit crisp, isn't it?
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  Speaker 8: It's almost a reminder of the horrible weather we had
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  Speaker 8: in September. So we've had, yeah, certainly a drop in temperatures,
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  Speaker 8: strong winds. Dirty rain and hail this week, certainly, and
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  Speaker 8: then the sun's shining at the moment, so a real
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  Speaker 8: mix of weather, so I guess that's spring for you though, eh?
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  Speaker 2: So you guys, you've been busy, the metric checking's come
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  Speaker 2: to an end, but mating's just cranking in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's.
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  Speaker 8: Probably a day most pets look forward to, the last
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  Speaker 8: metric check heard, which I think is behind us now,
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  Speaker 8: so I was just having a quick look this morning,
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  Speaker 8: and We've metric checked more cows than we have in
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  Speaker 8: previous years this year.
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  Speaker 3: Which is good.
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  Speaker 8: I think more farmers are looking at doing that as
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  Speaker 8: part of their routine spring health check. And look, the
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  Speaker 8: cows have been reasonably clean this year. Of the cows
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  Speaker 8: we've checked, we cured or treated 5%, which is a
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  Speaker 8: little bit behind last year, and probably in line with
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  Speaker 8: what we sort of felt as we were out there
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  Speaker 8: metric checking, there weren't the number of dirty cows, which
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  Speaker 8: is good. The risk factors for dirty cows tend to
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  Speaker 8: be sort of, you know, around calving problems. So if
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  Speaker 8: you've had a calf pulled by the farmer or by
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  Speaker 8: the vet, if they've retained membranes, if there's twins or
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  Speaker 8: dead calves born, and then obviously the normal stuff around
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  Speaker 8: body condition and nutrition as well. So we've had, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: there's a huge range and a huge variety between farms.
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  Speaker 8: I think our worst farm was close to 30% of
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  Speaker 8: cows were dirty and they did have a tough spring
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  Speaker 8: with calving difficulties. And then we had quite a few
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  Speaker 8: farms that were below 2%. So a big range, but yeah,
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  Speaker 8: on track with sort of normal years or maybe slightly better.
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  Speaker 1: Just briefly, Andrew, describe metric checking for the uninitiated. Very
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  Speaker 1: much a dairying term.
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  Speaker 8: Yep, fair call. So what we're looking for is endometritis.
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  Speaker 8: So uterine disease and infection, really. So we are checking
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  Speaker 8: for vaginal pus, ultimately.
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  Speaker 3: So we.
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  Speaker 8: During milking time, we'll be checking every cow during milking
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  Speaker 8: that has had a reasonable time post-carving to have recovered
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  Speaker 8: and to have gotten any infection under control. So as
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  Speaker 8: a general rule, if they've still got pus present two
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  Speaker 8: weeks post-carving, then we look to treat those cows and
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  Speaker 8: help them out.
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  Speaker 2: Coming into mating, how are the animals looking? How are
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  Speaker 2: the cows going?
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  Speaker 8: Certainly on a bit of a rising plane with the
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  Speaker 8: change in weather that we had and the ramp up in.
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  Speaker 3: Grass growth, which is good.
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  Speaker 8: We are flat out doing sort of the last of
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  Speaker 8: the heifer synchrony. So we've got a few heifers on
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  Speaker 8: feeder programs and a bunch of them getting second PG shots.
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  Speaker 8: So I believe on many farms heifer AI has started
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  Speaker 8: or about to start and bulls will be going out
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  Speaker 8: soon too. So that's flat out and I think in
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  Speaker 8: general heifers are looking pretty good. And we're also in
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  Speaker 8: the middle of starting non-cycler programs for dairy cows as well.
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: So again, a bit of a mixed bag. We've got
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: farmers with low numbers of non-cyclers and other farmers with
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: reasonably high numbers. The advice from vets is the same
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: as normal. The best return on your investment is looking
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: at synchrony programs to get those cows cycling. The beauty
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: of the synchrony programs now is they start with a
• 16:53
  Speaker 8: PG shot. So that tends to take care of any
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: silent heats that you've missed. Those cows will respond to
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: a PG and can be removed from the program. And
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: for the true non-cyclers, we continue with a CEDA program
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: and And we tend to get reasonable results from that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Beef cattle side of life, the bulls are due to
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: go out shortly.
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, not a mile away. For some, it might still
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: feel like a wee bit. There'll be still cows calving
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: out there, but we are starting to have those conversations.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: So we've got a bunch of beef farms on synchrony
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: programs for AI. So there's been a wee bit of
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: an increased uptake this year, whether that's a reflection of
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: bull prices, it may well be. And so there's some
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: quite good return on investment there where people are prepared to,
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: you know, to, to, to put in the work there
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: and those extra yardings to get cows synchronised. I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: there's certainly gains to be made through AI programmes in
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: beef cows, and we have seen a slight increase in that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: So we're busy putting those programmes together, and some of
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: those programmes are starting next week. And bull testing. So
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: certainly something worth considering, particularly where we've got teams of
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: older bulls or more extensive country where the bulls are
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: expected to do quite a bit of work to find
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: the cows on heat.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: So.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: both service testing, where we're assessing the bull's ability to
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: mount the cow and get the job done, and semen
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: testing as well. So certainly services that we do at
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: this time of year that I think are worthwhile, particularly
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: in some circumstances. And then finally in that beef space,
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: still doing quite a bit of BVD testing, exposure testing,
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: so testing replacement heifers for BVD, making sure that they're
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: coming through clear as a general sort of monitoring tool.
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: and bull testing as well. So a reminder for everyone
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: out there that all your bulls should be BVD tested
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: and vaccinated, and that's across the dairy and beef space.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: A huge risk if you're bringing in a bull with
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: BVD into your herd.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: From bovine, we slip over to the ovine sector.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: As far as tailing, getting tidied up for a lot
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of people, especially on the lower-lying farms, and all of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a sudden, drench use comes into the equation.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so the conversations are starting to shift from tailing,
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: you're right, and into pre-weaning drenches and what products we
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: should be using. I guess the advice there, as always,
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: is a drench that works. And if you don't know
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: what drenches work, you need to be testing that. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: if you're doing a pre-weaning drench, that is a good
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: opportunity to test it, whether or not that drench has worked,
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: because that can then shape your decision with that weaning drench,
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: which is arguably the most important drench. So some good
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: discussions happening there. Ultimately, that discussion and that advice is
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: really tailored to the farm. So there's not really general
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: advice to be given other than you should be using
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: a drench that works. And if you don't know, that's
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: probably at least a triple. And then when the drench
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: is the next best question so there's been a real
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: shift to doing this pre weaning drench and that sort
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: of came about from you know lambs are traditionally being
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: weaned post Christmas post New Year and we were finding
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: lambs getting wormy in that December period now we're finding
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: a lot of farms are weaning earlier and so we're
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: weaning in early December and And yet that pre-weaning drench
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: has remained for many farms, which often is a matter
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: of convenience done a month before weaning. So if you're
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: weaning in early December and considering a pre-weaning drench in
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: early November, we're actually getting pretty early now and the
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: need for that drench may have disappeared.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: That's going to.
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: Depend farm to farm and in what time you're lambing,
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: those early mobs may indeed benefit from a drench. But
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: we are finding some of those early drenches are unnecessary
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: and that you get away with just doing the first
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: drench at weaning again, especially if you're early December. However,
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: we've got tools to monitor that, recommend doing fecal egg counting.
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: We are seeing some people get away from the drench
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: at weaning and so they might just be given that
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: first drench two weeks before weaning, which then means that
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: at the weaning draft, lambs are outside of withhold. They
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: can just be drafted, no drench required, and we bring
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: them back in before Christmas for another drench. So something
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: to discuss with your vet. Something to challenge yourselves on,
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: do the lambs need that drench now or can we wait?
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: And fecally counting is a really good tool to monitor that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: For sure, drench resistance and everything, an ongoing issue for
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of people. If anybody wants to get in
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: touch with the team at Northern South from Vets because
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: there's only 24 hours in the day but you're busy
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: but they want some advice, Andrew, where do they call?
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so 032025636 here in Riversdale and 032497039 for the
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: team in Te Anau. As we said, we're still fairly
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: busy with all this hypersynchrony and non-cycle programs with the
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: dairy guys, so a lot of the time I think
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: you'll be leaving a message, but we'll certainly do our
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: best to get back in touch with you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Good on you, Andrew. All the best out there.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Awesome. Cheers, Andy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Andrew Cochran of NSVETS, official animal health advisors here to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the muster.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Michelle, what is up next in the country crossover? The
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Country Crossover, brought to you by Bioactive Soils. Growing together
• 22:02
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• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Become a proactive farmer with Bioactive Ag Fertiliser. Michelle Watt
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: is executive producer of The Country based in Dunedin and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: joins us.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Michelle. Firewoman by the cult. Are you a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: firewoman or are you a bogan woman?
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: Oh, I actually really love the cult, I'll be honest.
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: Do you remember the game Guitar Heroes that was on PlayStation?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I remember it. I never played it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: I was a whiz at the song by the cult
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: that was on there.
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: Loved it. But the cult's still bogan, isn't it?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say it's bogan. I'd say it's just
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: good hard rock, 80s rock.
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: Good classic rock, eh? They don't do bands like that anymore.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't do rugby like they used to either.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Look, the Highlanders merging with Otago, all the franchises merging
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: with the local provinces. It's as, I don't know, they're
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: trying to save rugby or super rugby in particular, but
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: they're hemorrhaging money.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: What's this going to achieve?
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know if it's going to achieve a lot.
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: I mean, a lot of people that I speak to, including, well,
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: my own thoughts on super rugby, Andy, is that I
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: went off it. and turn it to league. I enjoyed
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: watching the league a lot more. And I just think
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: there's a lot of people that feel the same way.
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: MPC definitely had a resurgence last year. People got really
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: excited about it. And I think it's down to people
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: being able to relate to the players and the team.
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: You know, all those team players in Otago and Southland,
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: they're from local teams, aren't they? So that's what makes
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: it exciting, knowing the players. And I think Super Rugby's
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: kind of lost that shine.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: League players by nature as well.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: You listen to their interviews in the media, they're a
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: lot more, I wouldn't say media savvy, but more relaxed
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: in front of the camera. I don't know if it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: just individuals or what, but that's just how it comes across.
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: Oh, look, league in Australia, the program has had a
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: lot of money sunk into it over the years, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: they've built that up to something that's quite incredible now.
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: And I think rugby's kind of lagging behind. They're going
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: to have to sort out, especially this whole succession sort
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: of thing of going into the All Blacks and building
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: up those players so that you've got people waiting in
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: the wings to move up instead of losing them to overseas.
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: I think that's going to be a big thing.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I talked about this with Mark Kelly yesterday in this
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Rugby League World Cup. Yes, it's actually really friendly viewer
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: times for Kiwis and it's happening over a month. So
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: these guys are in camp for quite a while, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you're enjoying your league, aren't you? You're turning into a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: real league bogan.
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, like I said to you, you can take
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: the girl away from the Bogan town, but you can't
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: take the Bogan out of the girl, I don't think.
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: And years ago, I used to watch State of Origin religiously.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: It's on a bit late for me now, I'll be honest.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: I kind of fall asleep during it. A bit like
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: the cricket T20. There's no way I can stay up
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: that late watching T20. It's far too late for me.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: But it's a Friday tonight. Live a little.
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: Oh, live a little, you reckon. I'll still fall asleep
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: on the couch.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Stay awake till 12 o'clock watching cricket on a Friday night.
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: My mind knows no days when it comes to falling
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: asleep on the couch, let's just say.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Tour of Southland getting underway on Sunday. I speak to
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Nath Burden about this later on in the hour. 70th edition.
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's really exciting.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: So this is the longest running multi-stage cycling race in
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: Australasia as well, which makes it quite a big deal.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: It was started on the 27th of September, 1956. And
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: do you know why it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: Was started, Andy?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Because everything starts somewhere.
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: Well, that's a good answer, but it marked the Invercargill
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: City Centenary. So it was invented for that originally, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: it just kept going. The first winner of that race,
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: just as a fun fact for you, was Calvin Hastie
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: from here in Dunedin.
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: Now, we still have a memorial.
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: Race, the Hastie Memorial, which we only raced a couple
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: of weeks ago for the Cycling Otago Club here in Dunedin.
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: And it's so cool.
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: The family come along to the end and all meet up,
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: and everyone talks about what these guys did in the past.
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: A lot of them went to Europe and tried racing.
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: They did these pro races. It's pretty exciting stuff because
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: back then it would have been a lot harder. But, yeah,
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: I'm really excited about it. Day one kicks off on Sunday,
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: of course, with a team time trial, one lap of
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: Queen's Park and also stage one, which is 42-kilometre street
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: race in Invercargill. So it will be exciting times. Last
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: year's winner is not going to be there, Josh Burnett, because,
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: of course, they shifted the Tour of Southland because of
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: the weather storm last year to January this year, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: he's got commitments to his team overseas, so he's unable
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: to be here for that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: So it could be interesting. There's some top riders in
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: there as well, Andy.
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: So you've got George Jackson, who's probably the highest ranking
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: one at the moment, or highest profile one in the field.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: He currently rode for Spanish UCI pro team, Burgos BH,
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: but is in Wushu, New Zealand, cycling project for this.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: Tom Sexton, and of course, Nick Kiriguzu, who did very
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: well last year. He's in the Open Country team. So
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: it could be really interesting racing without Josh Burnett there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say Nick Kyrgios for
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a moment. Anyway, continuing.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: A group of Dunedin high school students have come up
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: with an innovative solution for a $ 1 million problem facing farmers.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: This is interesting.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so this is really interesting.
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: And I think an example of why ag should stay
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: in schools as a standalone subject from year 11 upwards, Andy,
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: So this group of Deneen High School students, who are
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: all from rural backgrounds, have designed something to stop birds
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: from nesting in machinery, which, of course, is a big
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: problem this time of year. I don't know if you've
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: ever opened up the front of a tractor after it's
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: been sitting in a shed over spring.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Many a time, absolutely. Not even just over spring. Over
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a lunchtime, over 15, 20 minutes, those little douchebags get
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in there and do their business and fly away again.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And you hear more often than not, fires occur. They
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: happened recently around the region here.
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: And they build these massive nests too. Like sometimes it's
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: like a whole hay bale is stuffed in there. I
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: don't know how they managed to do it in such
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: a short amount of time, but they do.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Perhaps the government should employ them and do some of
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: these housing projects.
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: Well, they've done very well.
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: They've actually won the 2026 Young Enterprise Otago Company of
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: the Year Award earlier this week. So they're going to
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: Wellington to represent Otago at the Nationals. But basically it's
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: a strobe sort of light that sits inside and it stops,
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: it just deters the birds from building their nests inside machinery.
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: But they've been trialling it with 25 different farmers across
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: the region, had really.
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: Good feedback about it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: Of course, FMG reported earlier in the week, I think
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: we had on the show, that nesting birds cause up
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: to $ 1. 2 million worth of tractor fire claims annually.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: That's a lot. It's not just tractors, is it? It's utes,
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: it's other machinery you keep in the shed.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Anywhere an engine gets hot, yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's a great one, and I think it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: a really good example of rural kids having a bit
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: of a common-sense approach to solving a problem, which is
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: something that you do learn when you grow up rurally,
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: and I think ag and schools needs to stay.
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: Because of that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that totally.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Just to wrap up as well, the Stanford Prison Experiment,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: something on Netflix at the moment. I don't watch a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: lot of Netflix, but I took time out last weekend
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and I watched this from go to woe. Interesting, just
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: all about the human top three inches and how people operate.
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: Oh, this experiment is fascinating.
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: So I was really interested when you first texted me
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: about this being put on Netflix. I haven't actually watched
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: it yet, but I studied the original study when I
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: was at university for psychology. And the original study, Andy,
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: quite scary. So it was known as the Stanford Prison Experiment.
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: It was started in 19, or it was held in 1971.
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: by Professor Philip Zimbardo, who I have used many times
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: when I've written assignments at uni.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I was about to say you've used him many times
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: on the country.
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: I wish, but no. Cited many times in a lot
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: of assignments.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: But they used basically 20, in the real study, it
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: was 24 healthy male college students selected and they did
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: psychological screen. on them and they were assigned to being
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: either a guard or a prisoner. Now, interestingly, the original
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: study was meant to last two weeks, so 14 days.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: The simulation involved mock arrests, uniforms changed, authority.
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: Given to guards.
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: They had to terminate it after just six days because
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: there were severe emotional breakdowns among prisoners. prisoners and escalating
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: cruelty and abuse by the guards. So it just shows
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: how scary humans can be when they're in a group together,
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: especially when they're given a bit of power. Now, the
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: great thing about this study is it did change the
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: way institutional ethics standards were done on studies after that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: So it meant people didn't just do these really crazy
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: weird things that might actually end up damaging people.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It's been a busy old week, Michelle. You enjoy the weekend.
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: You too, mate.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Michelle Watt and the Country Crossover, thanks to Bioactive Soils.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: We're away to Tokanui next. We're catching up with Henry Buckingham. Now,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Henry put his lambing date back to the start of October,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: so we're going to catch up and see how things are.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Fed for him.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: MUSIC This is the muster on Hokanui. We're away down
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to Tokanui next to catch up with Henry Buckingham.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Henry bucked the trend, so to speak.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: He went for a later lambing date this year, starting
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: around the 4th or so of October. We caught up
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: with him before lambing, and we're going to have a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: bit of a debrief now to see how it's all gone. Henry,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: good afternoon. The first reaction for you would be, pulled
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it off.
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I guess we got pretty lucky, Andy, with
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: the weather. Had a three-week window there of hardly a
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: day of rain, which you feel quite bad saying that
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: after the spring we had. But, yeah, it is what
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: it is. And, yeah, we'll take it. So, yeah, it
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: was one out of the box for us, really.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: It was because of the weather of the previous couple
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: of springs. That was the rationale behind you changing your date, though.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it?
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: Yeah, partly so. It was half based off that and
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: the fact that my hoggets have lambed that year for
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: the past seven seasons, and we have had probably five
• 32:01
  Speaker 11: good seasons out of those seven. So I reckon I'm
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: a percentage game there. But mainly for feed also, like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: There's been a lot of work done into survivability and
• 32:13
  Speaker 11: feeding the ewes right up to and around lambing and
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: all year round really is quite important to the survivability
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: of the lambs and the size of them. So yeah,
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: that's our main reason and I think that's reflected too
• 32:30
  Speaker 11: into the stock this year. So yeah, it's all good.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: So doing pros and cons regarding your later lambing date,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: what were the biggest findings you've seen?
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: Well, pros this year was definitely the conditions, but that
• 32:46
  Speaker 11: might not be a massive thing going forward. But just
• 32:53
  Speaker 11: number of lambs, I think. Number of ewes left in paddocks.
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: We normally do upwards of 150 mother-ons each season. We
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: would We halved that this year. We did 75 in
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: our use, so that's a massive pro for me, a
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: lot less work. Cons would be a lot more workload
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: at one time. We lambed our hoggets and our use
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: at once, which it was flat out, don't get me wrong,
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: but it's good to be flat out when the weather's good,
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: so yeah, we'll take that.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Did you get any tractor work done while the weather
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: was good?
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we actually did in the last, well, last week.
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: We were still sort of at the tail end of lambing.
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: We were getting on the tractors. But, yeah, I don't
• 33:47
  Speaker 11: think we would have gone much sooner than that anyway. So, yeah,
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: like I said, it was quite busy. And even up
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: till last week with all the tractor stuff going on.
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: But we managed to get all our summer crop in
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: the ground last weekend.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: So.
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: I'm still feeling up to date, but it was pretty
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: hectic for a couple of weeks.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Pretty up to date, but if you've got the crops
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: in the ground, you're kicking gulls. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: Well, I saw that window and this sort of snap
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: in the weather coming and thought that might be the
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: window to go for it. So it doesn't take us
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: too much to get over our paddocks just with having
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: sheep in them over the winter.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Feed utilisation for the month, how's it been?
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: Uh....
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah nah pretty good we probably weren't real good in
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: September with it being so wet and on breaks we
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: just had to keep moving stock on but since we've
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: spread out we've utilised our feed pretty well we're just
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: starting to get a bit of a surplus at the
• 34:57
  Speaker 11: moment in which the mowers just got attached and topped
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: the first paddock today but Yeah, we generally top the
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: farm twice before Christmas or before New Year, so yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: that's sort of our main way of controlling feed from
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: now onwards, but I still think it's better to have
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: the feed up till peak lactation at least, and then
• 35:24
  Speaker 11: you can start topping and slowing them down a little bit.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Having the hog at slamming at the same time as
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the main flock, how did you find that?
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: I did have a lambing shepherd on this year, which
• 35:36
  Speaker 11: was quite good. We did half the farm each. And so, yeah,
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: that just eased the workload a bit. I'm not sure
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: if I could have done it all by myself with
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: the hoggets and the ewes at the same time. But, yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: that's the way we've made it work. So, yeah, it
• 35:53
  Speaker 11: worked out.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: So tailing's not too far away, I'd imagine?
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we're talking next. week or early the week after, yeah,
• 36:04
  Speaker 11: just when the contract gets around to it because we've
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: sort of gone to the back of the pile, which
• 36:10
  Speaker 11: is fair enough because we're a bit later.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: And you're weaning around New Year's, is that right?
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll probably aim for that from the first week
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: of January on to mid-January, just depending on how feed's
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: holding up as you usually do with your weaning dates.
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: We're pretty flexible around that. But yeah, we'll just wait
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: and see with that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Are you looking at doing this again next year?
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, 100%. Unless we have a major shortage, which
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: I am expecting in the autumn, which we're going to
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: use a bit of nitrogen to try and bridge that gap.
• 36:53
  Speaker 11: Unless we end up having to store a heap of
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: lands or something silly like that, we'll continue to do
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: the system and there'll be tweaks in that we have
• 37:02
  Speaker 11: to make along the way but yeah open to that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Have many people been in touch with you regarding the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: later lambing and just picking your brain as such?
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: Oh yeah a lot of farmers have talked to me
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: about it but yeah a lot sit on the fence
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: whether they could work it into their own system like
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: it yeah You have to change quite a few things and, yeah,
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: a few farmers probably not so willing to do that
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: just with workload and that, which is fair enough too.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: But you've obviously got a bit of scope in your
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: system where everything, you make it all work, I'd imagine. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 11: Well, like I said, it's our first year of going
• 37:50
  Speaker 11: back this far, so, yeah, we're going to try and
• 37:54
  Speaker 11: make it work and, yeah, we'll have a reflection. when
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: the season's closer to the end, but it's looking positive,
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: I think.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say you had a pretty
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: good drop then, just of what you're saying, and tailing
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: will be interesting.
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I am excited to see what tailing actually brings.
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: I think we should be near our best slamming, just
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: going off what it looks like. You never know until
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: the tails are off.
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: Do you?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Good on you, Henry.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. And, yeah, you'll be looking back
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: in October. That's been a rewarding one.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the weekend. You probably deserve a bit of a break.
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no, thank you, Andy. Sounds good.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Henry Buckingham, based down at Tokanui, just finished on the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: lambing beat. Before we wrap up for the afternoon as well,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Nathan Burden's up next, our resident sporting guru. Welcome back
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to The Muster. Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burden.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: He wraps the week here on the show.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Nathan.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: G'day, mate. How are you? You surviving this weather?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Got the heat pumps going in the studio. First world problems,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: but it's been pretty nippy today.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's a high of like eight or nine.
• 39:14
  Speaker 12: Yeah, the hail's been coming in sideways, but I think
• 39:16
  Speaker 12: things are going to pick up for the weekend, which
• 39:18
  Speaker 12: is great, isn't it? Because there's plenty on the calendar.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: To get through.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Straight off the bat, though, the SBS tour of Southland
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: gets underway on Sunday, second one for the year.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: What does it mean having the same event twice? in
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the one calendar year, though? That's different.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is different.
• 39:34
  Speaker 12: It's certainly been a challenge for Race Director Wayne Harding
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: and a small but really hard-working committee that put this
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: race together.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Probably the biggest challenge.
• 39:46
  Speaker 12: I guess, is on the you know, that hard-working volunteer
• 39:50
  Speaker 12: base that are the heart and soul of the race,
• 39:53
  Speaker 12: the people that set up the finish lines and pack
• 39:57
  Speaker 12: it all up at the end of the day that
• 39:59
  Speaker 12: stand on the corners with a flag and all sorts
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: of weather and that sort of thing and do 100
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: other roles during the week. So asking them to come
• 40:07
  Speaker 12: out twice in one year is a big ask. You know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: take taking time off from their busy lives to contribute
• 40:14
  Speaker 12: to this race. But there's so many people that love
• 40:16
  Speaker 12: this event that, you know, they show up year after year. So,
• 40:20
  Speaker 12: you know, it was great.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: To see them.
• 40:22
  Speaker 12: They came together for a meeting last night and, yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: it was great to see those faces again and everyone
• 40:29
  Speaker 12: sort of primed for a big week next week.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: You'll be following it yet again?
• 40:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah, this will be my 27th SBS Bank Tour of Southland, so...
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: Looking forward to things getting underway on Sunday. And as
• 40:41
  Speaker 12: you say, this is the 70th edition, so it's a
• 40:44
  Speaker 12: pretty special one, the old platinum anniversary.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: So I think there's.
• 40:48
  Speaker 12: Something like 16 past winners coming down as part of
• 40:53
  Speaker 12: the celebrations, including the likes of 1960 winner Gary Ulmer,
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: who's now 90. And I think it just sort of
• 41:01
  Speaker 12: speaks to just what a special place or a special
• 41:04
  Speaker 12: part of New Zealand sport, this race, is that people
• 41:09
  Speaker 12: are willing to travel from all over to come down
• 41:12
  Speaker 12: and sort of rehash those memories and have a bit
• 41:14
  Speaker 12: of a reunion.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: So it's going to be a pretty special week.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Is it fair to say this is the premier cycling
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: event for New Zealand on a road racing sense?
• 41:22
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, these days, unfortunately, we've had the demise of
• 41:25
  Speaker 12: the New Zealand Cycling Classic in the North Island, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 12: that was a UCI-ranked race recently. The Tour has been
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: a UCI-ranked race in the past, but these days you'd
• 41:39
  Speaker 12: go a long way in Australasia to find a multi-day
• 41:43
  Speaker 12: stage race. This is really it. There's quite a competitive
• 41:48
  Speaker 12: national series over in Australia, but that's more a three-day
• 41:51
  Speaker 12: race sort of situation.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I think we can see when we look at the
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: peloton for this year.
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: We've got something like 23 Australians who are coming over
• 41:59
  Speaker 12: to test themselves over here, so You combine the heavy
• 42:03
  Speaker 12: chip on the roads, the weather, the fact that it's
• 42:07
  Speaker 12: seven days of hard racing, the best young developing riders
• 42:12
  Speaker 12: from across New Zealand throwing a bunch of Aussies, a
• 42:14
  Speaker 12: couple of Dutchies. There's a Swiss rider there. It's going
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: to be a heck of a week.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Club cricket gets underway tomorrow, as does all the summer sports.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Apparently it is summertime. We're getting close to it, even
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: if the weather tells us otherwise.
• 42:28
  Speaker 12: Yeah, cricket before Christmas is always a bit touch and go,
• 42:32
  Speaker 12: isn't it?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I think sport in general at the moment before Christmas,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you lose that much of it due.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: To the weather.
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: Yeah, touch has been, excuse the pun, touch has been
• 42:41
  Speaker 12: touch and go, hasn't it? But yeah, club cricket is
• 42:44
  Speaker 12: interesting to go onto social media and see some of
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: the hardy old annuals, the likes of Clint Goad, who's
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: played 250-odd games for Appleby, some of these old stages,
• 42:54
  Speaker 12: and then some of the new blood coming through too,
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: so I always take my hat off to the people
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: who are willing to put aside five or six hours
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: on a Saturday afternoon to go out and represent their clubs.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, hopefully they all have a great summer.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I'm going to read a quote out from
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Phil Gould on social media. Now, Phil writes.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to attend a border medal event,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and as part of the evening they showed a video
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: asking current Test players what was their biggest achievement as
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: a junior player. It was around the era of the early, mid-2000s.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Matthew Hayden said he scored 200 one Saturday morning. Brett
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Lee said as a 14-year-old he got six wickets in
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: an over. So then they asked Ricky Ponting, the great
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Ricky Ponting. He thought for a moment, then replied, nothing
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: significant comes to mind. Although between the age of 11
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and 14, I never got out. So for three years
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: as a kid, Ricky Ponting couldn't get out, never got out.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty impressive, isn't it?
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: And you'd imagine, I mean, Australian cricket being what Australian
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: cricket is, he was probably playing against some pretty.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: It would be ruthless even at that age. Imagine the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: champs going out there all over the show.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 44:10
  Speaker 12: I did meet Ricky Ponting a few years ago, lining
• 44:14
  Speaker 12: up for an ice cream at the New Zealand Open.
• 44:16
  Speaker 12: Managed to have a wee yarn of him. Yeah, he's
• 44:18
  Speaker 12: a good guy, actually, for an Australian cricketer.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I suppose so, and that's the thing. You only see
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: them through the media, and what you see is just
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the surface.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, it's like this Indian cricket team being
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: over here.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: We've talked about this before as well, Nath. They're over here,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: they're anonymous, and they can go about their business. And
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: if you do go and see them, it's only just
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: for a very polite conversation. But a lot of the time,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: they're just left to their vices.
• 44:41
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think they must absolutely love it. You know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 12: we caught up with Jake Duffy not long after his
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: IPL season debut when he came back from winning that
• 44:53
  Speaker 12: IPL title. And it was hard to sort of get
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: your head around sort of that lifestyle of basically being,
• 45:00
  Speaker 12: you know, even as a New Zealander rookie in that competition,
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: sort of almost being confined to your hotel, you know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 12: it was a real challenge to get out and sort
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: of not be bombarded by the public who just, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 12: they treat these people like gods. So, yeah, as, you know,
• 45:21
  Speaker 12: these superstars of Indian cricket, it's a different sort of lifestyle.
• 45:24
  Speaker 12: So they must love it when they come over here.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: It is good to see.
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: I think, you know, I've actually enjoyed probably the camaraderie
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: or the, They've obviously been playing this T20 series really hard,
• 45:38
  Speaker 12: but it is good to see the players.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I guess a lot of these guys are teammates, aren't they?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, all around the world in franchise cricket.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:46
  Speaker 12: And no one really wants to be thought of as
• 45:49
  Speaker 12: a dick, do they? There seems to be a good balance,
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: I think, that the players seem to be able to
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: sort of get on well on the park but still
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: play some good hard cricket.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Just quickly to wrap up, what do you make of
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Otago being in line with the Highlanders as all five
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: franchises in the major cities are now? So the MPC team, Waikato,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: they've gone with the Chiefs, Auckland with the Blues, Canes
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: with Wellington, etc.
• 46:12
  Speaker 12: You all, at first, hard to see it as a positive.
• 46:14
  Speaker 12: I mean, it was how things were, and they were
• 46:17
  Speaker 12: changed for a reason. They were changed because it wasn't
• 46:20
  Speaker 12: working that well, and it was thought that it was
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: going to be better to have a separation between NPC
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: and the franchise situation. So we understand why they're going
• 46:31
  Speaker 12: back to that. They need to save some money somehow.
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: They've got to save 20 mil at least a year.
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: They're not changing those competitions, so... they've probably ticked the
• 46:42
  Speaker 12: hard conversations down the road but hopefully maybe they've learnt
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: from what the barriers were from last time and they'll
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: be able to do a better job of it this
• 46:50
  Speaker 12: time around Good.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: On you Nath, all the best to the tour next
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: week we'll catch up and keep dibs on what's going on,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: hopefully the weather plays its part and it's challenging for
• 46:58
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• 47:21
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• 47:24
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• 47:26
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• 47:34
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• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Black Caps, T20 tonight against India at Eden Park. If
• 47:38
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• 47:40
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