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#615 - Ras Kass Why Album Was Shelved, Misunderstanding Over Alchemist Beat, HRSMN, Coast Contra & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Let's get into the interview. Yo, it's the Blueleg Cap Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Man special guests in here, Carson's finest brass cast.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, thank you brother, thanks for having me. Yes, sir, man,
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  Speaker 3: than you, thank you, thank you. Yo Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I got to give you props man, because you have
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like when we you know, I always say
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: that there's like certain like guys on this planet who
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  Speaker 2: are just like have like mastered the art of like
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: lyricism working at it. I feel like you are one
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  Speaker 2: of the like earlier dudes in my life where I
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  Speaker 2: was like, Yo, this, this guy's fucking different, like you Cannabis,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like like this aspect of guys who just
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  Speaker 2: like just mastered you know, just lyricism in a way
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  Speaker 2: that was just so unique. Man.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciated that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man uh. And the other thing I want to
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  Speaker 2: give you props I want to have. The first thing
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you back is one of the
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  Speaker 2: first songs I ever like, I felt like kind of
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  Speaker 2: sparked my brain as a kid, was Nature of the
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  Speaker 2: Threat on Soul on Ice. That was kind of like
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  Speaker 2: that was I mean, obviously there was like revolutionary like
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  Speaker 2: conscious shit, but that was like the kind of like
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  Speaker 2: the like that record was different.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I always say that that record was completely selfish. I
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  Speaker 3: liked history. I always liked it, so I was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of like a class clown. But then
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of like I'm talking about like in
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  Speaker 3: middle school, yeah, junior high school and shit.
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  Speaker 4: So I liked.
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  Speaker 3: History though for some reason, and I was asking questions
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  Speaker 3: that sometimes the teacher didn't answer. So I just really
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  Speaker 3: wrote Nature of the Threat obviously inspired by you know,
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  Speaker 3: karros One You Must Learn and all that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But I was just trying to figure out because I
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  Speaker 3: liked history, I just kind of want to understand.
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  Speaker 4: You know, things don't happen in the vacuum.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm trying to understand like seventeen seventy six, but
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: you know, well how the Mexico.
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  Speaker 4: Not you know, how did it shrink?
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  Speaker 3: You know, so putting those things in the context, so
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  Speaker 3: I was just kind of right to understand, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the cause and effect of how we end up literally
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  Speaker 3: where we are today. You know what I mean, and
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  Speaker 3: so that's why I did it.
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  Speaker 2: Was was like at that time, did you get any
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  Speaker 2: like like negative feedback from a label or anything.
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  Speaker 4: It was on my demo. But the thing is I
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  Speaker 4: wrote it.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, it was literally on my demo, and then
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  Speaker 3: they I was my whole plan was to to never
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  Speaker 3: put it out on the first album.
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted to record it because I knew me.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I ended up losing my notebook, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then I ain't gonna have a song.
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  Speaker 4: So I just kind of just went over Voodoo House.
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  Speaker 3: I laid it, and then my whole point was I'll
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  Speaker 3: put it on my second album because I didn't want
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  Speaker 3: to like band myself. I was like, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 3: in trouble for the song. So uh then my mom
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  Speaker 3: heard it and she's like you got you got to
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  Speaker 3: put it out and yeah recipes. Yeah, my moms just
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  Speaker 3: like you got to do it. And the label was
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  Speaker 3: pretty they signed me with it, but then they kind
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  Speaker 3: of was like you sure you want to put this
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  Speaker 3: on there, and I was like, my mom told me, so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't push a lot, but they kind of were
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  Speaker 3: like maybe not, but we still you know, to their credit.
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  Speaker 4: They let me, you know, they let me be who
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy too because like when we think of like
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  Speaker 2: debut albums, like I feel like so on Ice like
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  Speaker 2: doesn't get mentioned enough, Like it was such a dope project.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like obviously do you feel like it's
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  Speaker 2: slept on?
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  Speaker 4: I did. Here's the bruh.
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  Speaker 3: My album actually came out a year and a half
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  Speaker 3: later than it was supposed to because we were independent
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  Speaker 3: at Patchworks, and then we got uh you know, we
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  Speaker 3: got the opportunity to have different labels. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like a bending bar. So you know, there was Death Jam.
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  Speaker 3: It was American Death, American Big ru Ben. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know Loud. They didn't even tell me Loud gave me
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  Speaker 3: an offer because I would have took Loud.
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  Speaker 2: Hey that checks out because they X at the times
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  Speaker 2: on Loud.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't on Loud yet he had my beat.
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: The Licks were on Loud.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, the I think were the first artists maybe maybe yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then they had Wu Tang so they had a
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  Speaker 3: squad over there, and then you know, I picked priority
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  Speaker 3: because it was I was afraid of Death Jam. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, it's you know, it's big dogs I'm this
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  Speaker 3: young dude and I didn't want to go, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna get to New York all the
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: time the son go wrong. So kind of the logic
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  Speaker 3: was to pick a label that was based in LA
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  Speaker 3: so I could at least go try to you know,
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  Speaker 3: create rapport with the relationship, you know, with with with
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  Speaker 3: my projects.
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  Speaker 4: But I didn't know loud it made that offer and.
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  Speaker 2: Wh wh why didn't you know?
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  Speaker 4: Was it just because.
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  Speaker 3: My production team the offer was lower, so they didn't
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  Speaker 3: even let me know because they wanted the money and
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: depth jam.
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  Speaker 2: Were so many artists get fucked up because they work
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  Speaker 2: with managers and they work with production companies.
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  Speaker 4: Right, who I'm a different agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because at the end of the day, like they
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: don't got to recoup, right, you got to reach right.
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: They just want that front end bag because they don't
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: get their cut off the wrist right on top of man.
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  Speaker 2: So who's got the bigger bag? Let's go right?
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  Speaker 3: And that's they Because I didn't even know that until
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  Speaker 3: like two years ago. It was on some call and
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: then breathkins like you like he's like he said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're the only person I ever made the offer to
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  Speaker 3: that didn't sign to me.
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  Speaker 4: I was like news to me. Never knew that Wild.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so cut it should have would because I would
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  Speaker 3: have went to of course def Jam, but it was
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  Speaker 3: far right, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like Prior, more like a West Coast base.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was West Coast BA, but Loud was a
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  Speaker 3: hip hop label and it was new. It was in La, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And they had the squad
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: so Brian Shafton, Brian Turner, Dave Wyner, Yep, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. And they had didn't they I think I had.
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  Speaker 2: Me and Shafton were talking about this because I think
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  Speaker 2: they had also in that building, like they had some
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: sort of deal with black Market Records and brothers.
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  Speaker 3: Of course they did all the Independence, so all the
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  Speaker 3: Bay independence, they were the distributor. Yeah. So yeah, all
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: all the Bay people. We were in the CNN building.
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  Speaker 3: So that was always kind of for fun seeing Wolf
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  Speaker 3: Blitzer and show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I always was curious. So you've been a part
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: of like what kind of two cruise groups?
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you will super groups.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: So because I think like three card Molly is one
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: of the dopest like posse cuts ever and it's kind
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: of mad because I don't think Exhibit did it at
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Fest and I was like, bro, this is the
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  Speaker 2: three card Molly fucking crowd.
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  Speaker 3: Do it here, you know what. You know what's funny.
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  Speaker 3: He asked me to go to Ryan Plass. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: make it. I had to do something else, and so
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: he was like when he hit me, he was like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: you want to come out, and I was like, bro,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I can't make it. So he probably
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  Speaker 3: didn't do it because you weren't there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean yea, because he would have just did it
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  Speaker 2: one like one one.
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  Speaker 3: Would have more impact, it would have been more funk,
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  Speaker 3: and I start that record out, So I think that's
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  Speaker 3: probably why he didn't do it.
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  Speaker 4: So shouts out of X. I just saw him Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Man killing it. His album was amazing.
• 8:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah man, yep, king Maker.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: So you end up, uh, there's this like it's it's
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: kind of like the detox of West Coast groups, the
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors.
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, you're right, the greatest idea that never right happened.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: Like you guys had decided like the Golden State Warriors
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: were a thing, and then the actual team was like
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: not no, right, right, right, So break down what happened
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: with with the group.
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  Speaker 3: So, so's obviously Exhibit and absolutely we love him, we
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: love him, we love him, love alone from them. But anyway,
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: so we become the group Exhibit. We always we do
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: songs with each other's albums.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, because you're on at the Speed of Life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, his first I'm on like the first three
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, plastic surgery, so fear, you know whatever. So
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: we start doing this thing and didn't Exhibit bitch please pops.
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: So he's got a lot more visibility and then it
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: gets this label offer, open bars, this label and then
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: he gets his offer. So one of the things he
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: wants to do is like the group roll, let's go now.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: And then that with that much attention, that's when the
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: basketball team is like, fuck y'all, y'all gonna be nothing.
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  Speaker 3: You are not the Golden State Warriors.
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  Speaker 2: How many records did you guys have working on it?
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  Speaker 4: Like seven? We just never finished.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, this is again you know agenda the label, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: the my particular label, Party Records, all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: wanted so much from Exhibit.
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  Speaker 4: It got crazy. We need two songs on each sound track,
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  Speaker 4: like whoa, he's not.
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  Speaker 2: Signing it's on fire right in order for us to
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: let him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, and I'm like, you're an idiot. He's given
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  Speaker 4: us the layup.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: This is gonna help my ship, and you guys got.
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  Speaker 3: They drug it out for a year and we lost
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: the situation. Like it was really heartbreaking, And that's kind
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: of when I really soured with the label because it
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: was just like, now it just seems like y'all purposely
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: trying to destroy the career, like broke giving us the
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: alley oop. He's on the M and am out of
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: the dre stuff, and all he's saying is and he's
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: gonna get us a bag, and y'all gonna get a
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  Speaker 3: piece of my bag anyway.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: Right right, Like y'all gonna get and.
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: Then and then the record's gonna go platinum what it
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: But I just it was kind of like there's a
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: saying in a breakord contract that it's basically it says
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: if you can suit from breach of contract if the
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: label was unable and or unwilling to execute its duties.
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  Speaker 3: So at that point, I was like unable to just
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: they're not capable. They don't get it unwilling. It's like sabotage.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when I started feeling like, y'all sabotage in
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: this ship now. And that's when I you know.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Well, because there is a yeah, I don't know how
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: many people know. I mean, for as a kid, I
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: went to the warehouse Christln Maull in Phoenix, Arizona, and
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: I had assassination already and sol on Ice and waiting
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: for Van Go. I got this fucking demo CD. I
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: forget what all was on this demo demo there.
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  Speaker 3: Was, yeah, it was Sampler. That was I think host
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  Speaker 3: about like I think.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: There was a Djin.
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: Might have been case and kid Capri and I just.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Remember burning that ship out. You had the Alchemist record
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  Speaker 2: on there, right, which was fucking crazy. Van Go doesn't
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: end up coming out until you did a version of
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: it like seven years ago, put.
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  Speaker 4: The record the way it was.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so was this so so I want to get
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: into the Alchemist thing, but first I want to go
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: figure out what happened with so the Samplers out.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like the momentum is going, so are you
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: that when you're like, fuck, y'all, well, this is again
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  Speaker 3: unable and or unwilling.
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  Speaker 4: So here's the play.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: You guys had fucking ads in the magazine.
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: And all we're going. So here's the thing. All as well,
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: we've already pressed up the vinyl. We pressed up vinyl
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: for a single, the single that I'm that I perform
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: on starring Buck Wold had a cable show in New
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: York and Money Love was the host also, and so
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: I performed this song and I also put it on
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: Case Slave's mixtape. It's called Home, Sweet Home. It's the
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: alchemist be great song. So the label says, uh, you
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: should you know this is when the irritating thing. They're like,
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: you should have Exhibit on this song. I'm like, you
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: fucking groupies. He's on two other ones. We got the
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: NBA record and I had this song called sex the
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Jelly Roper dude. So I'm like, I'm not putting bro
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  Speaker 3: on every song I say. And I remember I said,
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: if you wanted to sign Exhibit, you should have signed it.
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: Don't start trying to pimp me out to over use
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  Speaker 3: my homeboy, that's whack. And this I like this song.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: How I did this song. I'm gonna leave the song
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: how it is. But they end up taking.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: There trying to like use your relationship with your friend
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: and like over pimp it out, Like yo, come on, guys,
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  Speaker 2: like I got you.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: There's two on here already, Relax, you know what I mean.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: So the vinyls getting manufactured on the lull we got
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: it's got Storch. We got a Kanye record, We got
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: a blah blah blah like my records fire.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Uh and Kanye like way before Kanye is Kanye?
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, you still got jay Z know what I'm saying,
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: Like he's like a also he's just a but long story,
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: be sure. What happens with Van Go is that's when
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: the label gets sold. So party gets They bought Capital
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: and I bought half and let Brian still run it
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Brian Turner. And then they they bought the other share,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: the like the controlling share, and phased him out. And
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: so basically my album was I remember I went in
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: to like the new vice president that was coming in
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: h and and they gave me a you know, they
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: gave me a spill. They said, because my record was
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: like coming out in a week the c these were manufactured,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I should have grabbed the box. I'm in the idiots
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: and they said, look, nobody did their job because the
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: song was backing up for Van Go. We had shot
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: that video too, that was the single single, uh rick
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  Speaker 3: rock right. But and so they said, look, we're gonna
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: put it out. It probably won't. It's not going to
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: say because nobody radio department didn't do nothing because everybody
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: was waiting thinking they're gonna get fired, so they busy
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: send out their resumes. Motherfuckers was just trying to pay
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: the bill. So it's like, you got two options. What
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: was told to me was we could put it out
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: and then it won't perform and then get dropped, or
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: let us make amends. We pulled the album. We'll give
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: you some more money and we're gonna treat you like
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: the Marque artists that you deserve to be there. It's
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: like the only people that's gonna really end up staying
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: here is gonna be you and Snoop Dogg. I'm like,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I can live with that because because ice Q only
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: have he put out his last one, he was done,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: he had fulfilled his obligations.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: So they were just like.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: So I was like, fuck, you know, I'll stick it out,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: checks out, stick it out, I'll stick it up. Stupidest
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: decision I ever made. I should have just let Van
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: go go. But I mean when people telling agent and
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: then I would have went wherever I wanted to go.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I could have signed the exhibit, whatever the fuck I
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: wanted to do. I was an idiot, But you know
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I processed that. I talked to my friends, you know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: you know, people in the industry, and.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Honestly, way different industry landscape back then, right, But I
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: know how year is this.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: It's like two thousand, yeah, yeah, about two thousand, maybe
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: two thousand and one is And so I was just like, okay,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I'll stick it out and uh uh yeah, and the
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: rest is history.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Literally.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: So I want to revisit because obviously your song ends
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: up being Jada Kiss, We're Gonna Make It, which is
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: a classic classic.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: It's a classic.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Now it sounds like there's an obvious lot of confusion
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: going on with your situation, right, So in retrospect, breakdown
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: how Jada ends up with that record and how the
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: conflict with Al ends up as well.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: What we decided. I just saw Al, uh, you know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: having a legendary run. He's killing it. So our thing
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: is we just call it. We had them misunderstanding, we're
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: moving forward. Miscommunication, miscommunication.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of parts.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: That record because think about it, Van Gold didn't come
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: out dry, so it went to where it was supposed
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: to go to be exposed. And it's you know, they
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: did a great job. I feel like I did a
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: great job. Al obviously produced it. So he killed at
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: the beach crazy and uh, you know, we made our piece.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, like our ours. First
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: of all, we're probably gonna do some joints. Great, you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do some joints. And it was really cool
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: when I when I saw him at Havoc, at the
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: mob Deep at Lease party, It's like it wasn't a
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: lot of people, it was you know what I like upstairs.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: For it was at this walked Supreme spot exactly.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: The Supreme Spot was there too.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I walked up on them and I got
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: a couple of shots with my cousin.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I was with s Class Beats, but there was a
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: couple of us.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: We walked upstairs, you know, dap everybody up and then
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: just uh a hugut.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Was that the first time you seen him in a while?
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Oh wow?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: And I knew he knew he knew I was going
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to see him, and I knew I was going to
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: see him because have and stormed those my guys, like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: my last album, the Gutter Album, half did all the production,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: having did off from my deep, so it was dope.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Hugged him like what a nig I can't even call
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: him nigga.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what a nigga?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: And then he's good man. He was like, bro, I
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: want to do the flyd mics. I was like, yeah, man,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I'd be dope.
• 18:30
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• 18:34
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• 18:36
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• 18:40
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• 18:44
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• 18:55
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• 18:58
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• 19:00
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• 19:03
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• 19:06
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  Speaker 2: to the interview. Yo. I want to talk because you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: are also a father of uh some incredible talents.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Thank you than.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: For people who don't know who are your sons.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: My sons are Raz Austin and Taj Austin. They're twins
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: in a group called Coast Contra.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Coast Contra has been.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Rocking.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I think they kind of brought back like I wouldn't
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: say they brought back the freestyle thing, but like they
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: literally created a buzz and and just.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Off of free style, like watch, we're gonna rap and
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And it's a thing now. Yeah, man, how cool has
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: that been for you? As a father?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: It's for one, it's surreal to me, you know, Like
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I remember I remember then asking me to go to
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: a showcase. Yeah, and uh, you know we're doing songs together,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: but I hadn't seen them perform. And I remember when
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I went in, Uh, I saw my homeboy do them
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: tone Lopez, Uh, tone from here. Yeah, And so I
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: see my homie at this kind of like young boy.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: You know, everybody most of the music is maybe a
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: little more of wavier, trappier, you know what I'm saying.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm you know, I kind of you know, I'm
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: enjoying it, but I'm kind of like, you know, we're
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: like the OG's in the spot right and I'm like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: what you're doing here? He's like, I came to check
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: out these dudes. There's this other group who's awesome too.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And then he's like what you're doing here? I'm like, oh,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: my kids is performing, you know, moral support. Anyway, they rocked,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and I remember he was like, Yo, who them niggas?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's my kids here, and so he
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: just fell in love with him. He actually put him
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: on their first tour, the Core Day shit some Tone.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Tone is like Chris Brown's tour manager and all that,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: so he like that relationship, open that door. But I
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: remember thinking, like when I looked at him, because I
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: was like, I thought they were good, but I'm.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Biased, you know what I mean.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: So I couldn't get I couldn't even say if I
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: if I liked it or not because I felt like
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I was gonna be biased. But then when Tone was like, yo,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the niggas is dope, and I was like, okay, all right,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: so it's not my bias, it's actually that they are dope.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So almost like they went just like the raz Cast
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: School of Rackets.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: They got it on his on both sides. The mom
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: can write Tjer Moses, she's a writer, she can. Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: so they got it on both sides. Yes, that was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: a great career. Yeah right, her ass offing games crazy
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: her and Neo, they was like that was all our
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: click ping gang Neo ping gang sick you right, So yeah, nah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: they got it on us on both sides. Man, I'm excited.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I'm excited because they stuck to again. People were suggesting
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: be trappy or do this, and they were just like
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: bars the same.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: There's enough of that ship out there, right, Like had
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: they came out as like a four person group doing
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that kind of music, they might not have made it right.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It's just it's not It's not like there's a missing
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: piece of of of like you know, the marketplace that
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: needs to be filled. And I feel like especially from
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the younger, just.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: From a younger generator. And you know what was super cool.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I was shouts out to day she played for one.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I definite wanted to thank him.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Uh. He invited me, amongst other people to the premiere
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: of his new Netflix special but Thundercat.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I ain't seen Thundercat in a while, so he's super.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: He waves in, He's like, Yo, your kid's album, This
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: new album is fucking phenomenal. I'm like, they will fucking
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: freak out when when I you know what I'm saying
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: when I tell him that, like because they're a fan,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: they're students, you know what I'm saying. So it was
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: really nice, Like, you know, thunder everybody a lot of
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: people don't know always know they're my kids, you know
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because they don't lean into that. They're
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: they're you know, trying to pay their own and blaze
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: their own trails, you know.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Real. And then the one dude is he's also like
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: a Spanish artist, Yeah Columbia. Yeah, well like because him
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and my artists have like done like Spanish music together, bro,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, that's.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Him, bro, Columbiano.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: So they came, they all came the rastage and Rio
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Los came together. When they graduated high school, there was seventeen.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: So when they came out here, there's a third guy,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm like, you know, I
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: remember one time I talked to his mom straight Spanish.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: She don't speak English like that, you know what I'm saying.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: So that's really Kim, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: he a bar out and then he bar out in
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Spanish like he goes.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: It's crazy man.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Eric too, like and they met Eric uh
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: out here yeah, but uh, like I guess like a
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: month or so once he like give a guy some
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: gumption and apparently drove out here like fucked that. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: want to ride like from Philly. So they don't kids,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: and they they kept it true to themselves and I'm
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: grateful that the culture gave them an opportunity.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: That's what I wanted to learn.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on Assassination, you had Dre on the album, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like that weird like point in
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: time in Dre's career where like he left death Row
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the Chronic two thousand and one hadn't dropped yet. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: think the only thing that came out was like the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Aftermath album, and so it was like Drey was got
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: kind of in limb. What's what what's your relationship with Dre? Like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and like just talk about getting him.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't speak to I don't. I don't
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: have a negative relationship with Dre. I think everybody just
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: kind of uh goes in their directions.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: He's he's got Dre said something to mean once that
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: was incredible.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: He basically said he gave me his like top five
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: h mcs on like MTV or something, and then I
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: ran into him and then he was like, you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I give you, you know, with my top five and
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, I know, everybody text me.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: I heard He's like he's like, I.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Don't have to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: He's like basically said, I don't have to gas like you.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: He's like, my grandchildren ain't got to be shipped. The
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: implication being he can fuck off the bag, his kids
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: can funk off the bag, and their grandchildren could funk
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: off the bag. His great grandkids would still be fine.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, bar so, yeah, No, he's always I've
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: learned a lot from him. I know him and exhibit
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: have like a lot, you know, a lot more be poor.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen song for something. So it was, you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: had a positive interaction.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And then did you ever like help him writing or anything.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I did some writing over there obviously
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: for Ghettle Fabulis. I wrote that verse. You know what
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. Oh, that's another thing he said. He was like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: you know, because he's never been like a dude that
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: like acts like he writes the ill. No, he's never
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: fronted that way. So he's always about like wanting to
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: get the best verses. So you know, yeah, I did,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I did some writing some of the suff he nothing
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I did landed except for my record, the Ghetto Fabulous record.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: But uh yeah, man, he's brilliant and his grandchildren ain't
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: got to be shiped when you.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Look back at that album, because that was It's funny
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: because I mean, I was born in eighty seven, right
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: when that album comes out.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Me too, Me too, you were born lives, I tell.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But emotionally it's because that Assassination was the first album
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: years I had, and then I went to the warehouse
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and found so and I years, Wow. Wow, you know
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, What do you do when you think
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: about because I thought there were some bangers on that album,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and that's.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I'm the kid right before Eminem.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Well that's the album that made me like a fan
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of yours. But like and like, I'm like so disconnected
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: from like narratives and shit, I'm like this shit's hard.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: But then like you hear like people be like I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: was disappointing or you know, it wasn't so long. Ice, Like,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: when you think back of the second album, what are
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: your thoughts?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's the same album.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I always tell people that, so on Ice, I mean,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: obviously I had an opportunity to work with Doctor Dre.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not an idiot. I had an opportunity to work
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: with Easy Mob and Rizza.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Fuck that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I mean of course I was going to a vampire.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: So I mean, but here's the rub. I remember Dre.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to keep talking about Dre,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: but I remember later on Dre was like after Ghetto
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Fabulous and all that and Assassination come out, he was
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: just like, you ain't going to be a star if
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: you stay at that label, because think about it, he
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: gives me the ali Oop. The only the dude right
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: after me is Eminem and they get it right. They
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: do it right. They knocked out the park. So if
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: my company had just done halfway decent, he gave me
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the ali Oop, gave me a fire beat that everybody
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: knew to tango track, Like you know what I'm saying,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: matc Tin is popping over with no limit. And no
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: he wasn't no limit yet. He was still with Cuban
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: them west Side Connection. So they set me up for
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: when and then you know, I don't know why my
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: company was either unable or unwilling. And I remember Dre
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: because I was a little dejected because then they blamed me.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Damn they said that, Like I was like, really, like.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Because that was your last album on priority essentially.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because exactly And then it was supposed to be
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Golden Child.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Golden Child, yes, right.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: So because I had to keep it was either put
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: out Van Gogo and fumble or Pollar record and do
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: a Golden Child.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: And that's why I had.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like the Napster days, I had Golden Child.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: It was on the internet.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's early by Wiles.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I burned the CD as you should, but it wasn't
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: like it still isn't out right, and then we came out,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: but it's all it's out though.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I mean it exists, Yeah, but I never put it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are you glad that elked? I mean, because that
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: whole album is out. I would rather because I'm like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I remember having that ship in my CD book.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: But it was because you burned it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: It was on napstre I mean, I'm glad, you know
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: the point of uh, that was.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Really an early first time like a full unreleased album
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: had come out and never dropped.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I have some unfortunate first I definitely do, but I
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: would rather people hear it. And Jazzy Jeff he had
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: an interview where he said, die empty. So what's the
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: point of keeping this ship? Yeah, yeah, don't keep it?
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad at least the world got to hear
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: it with all the hard work of people investing in
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: producing it, mixing and mastering it, giving me features, you know, singing,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: whatever the fuck that whole process. For nobody to hear
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: it would be even more of a tramal Yeah. Yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: so fucking I'm glad. I'm glad that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Gave You're impossible for you to ever drop it officially
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: because of all the moving.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: PA I could, because I don't think they even give
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: a fuck about it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just throw it up.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some vinyls and ship. Yeah, I might.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about how you end up coming because
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: there's another guy who's the alien r J. Pain. Yeah,
• 31:39
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• 31:44
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  Speaker 2: Better, How does this come come come about?
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  Speaker 3: Because uh Pain, you know obviously you know you know
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  Speaker 3: his freestyles, and I think I think I recall he
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  Speaker 3: each other like some ship, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 3: Just like ro Dope, I can't take from somebody what
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  Speaker 4: For a verse. I don't maybe it was me asking him.
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  Speaker 3: But and then at some point have was like I
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  Speaker 4: You can never duplicate MYB deep.
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  Speaker 3: What could be cool is get an East Coast rapper,
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• 33:30
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• 33:33
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  Speaker 2: at least this year, it feels like and I think
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the clips have a lot to do with it, obviously,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Freddie put out. I mean, there's been some great hip hop,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: but I do feel like, you know, it feels like
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the narrative is starting to shift a bit that hip
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: hop is a young man's.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Sport you think you think still, no, I I.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Think that like over the last decade people are like, yo,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: if you're if you're an old head or what. But
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I do feel like, you know, this year has kind
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: of shifted that thought.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, I agree.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: With you know where it's like, hey, man, like at
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, like bars.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Bars, look at nads. I mean, nas is having a fun.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: And I also think there's something to be said that,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: like you like, like, you know, there are people who
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: might stream, but they might have a shitty deal, right,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you know, they can't sell any fucking tickets, right, Really
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: about like how can you like really monetize and like
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: super serve whatever fan base you had, right, right, however
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: big or small, it is, right and just make the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: best possible music and then when you do that, like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: it can fucking reach the masses.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, I mean at this point, you just
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: gave a very good example. How come it's surfing out here?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, come on, man, it is it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Is and he's not you know, he was born in
• 36:30
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• 36:32
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• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how was og at this point?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, dude, that's the first mob deep album he
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: got a placement on, and that's fucking that's that's no, no,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: not Hell on Earth. Sorry it was murder music. But nonetheless,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: it's just crazy because I just like, just be done.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Like you said, the narrative has shifted from it's it's
• 36:53
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• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Posting on r J Payne freestyle, and I'm like, maybe
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: we got a chance here.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I think talent superseded and nobody had ever
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: created that narrative in any other genre before. So that
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: was a weird thing that we created this agism and
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: rap nobody did agent. Nobody tells fucking Dolly Parton that
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: are titch that she shouldn't have big tits and singer
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: country western songs. That's like everybody for rap. It got weird,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: and so I'm glad that we were destroying that, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: it really got destroyed by people putting out superior product.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the clips superior product, the
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• 37:33
  Speaker 2: It's just I can't wait to hear the na Preme
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  Speaker 4: Comes out tomorrow night fucking a does it?
• 37:37
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• 37:47
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm a huge I'm.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: A huge wrestling fan behind you. Absolutely, you're on the
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: trileh song mystical? Yes, how does that happen? In like
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: like like that's but because this is straight attitude era,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the fucking best time in wrestling, they put out a
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: fucking album where all these rappers are remixing the theme
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: songs and ship.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: That that those are the brainchilds of Parorty Records. They always,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: for some reason they would get most of the soundtrack
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: and they pitched it and and and kind.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Of paired us.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I probably would say Andrew Shack may have called those
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: audibles impaired me with misico who I was. I'm a
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: fan of music beat and you know what I'm saying.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, that was kind of corporate uh suit
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: thinking at its finest. That's when they did a good job.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Like that's back then it's not as easy to email you.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Are you in a mystical getting in or is that like.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: You go in the studio. Yeah, yeah, I had to
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: go recurd ship.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: There was no there was yeah, yeah, there was no Yeah,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: there was no pro I mean yeah, there wasn't even
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  Speaker 2: I don't think probably not, Yeah, I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: Real yeah, and yeah you gotta go in there and
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  Speaker 3: go say yo ship and then take the two big
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• 39:09
  Speaker 2: What what you know, you were kind of a part
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: of so many errors of what I would call like
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the underground.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: You know, I am the Forrest Gump of hip hop.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I've been everywhere. I'm in every picture, right.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I mean true though, because like you're a part of
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: this like West Coast like renaissance with the X and
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: and it's it's very much like it's very underground esque
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: because like at that same time you got like dilated
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: people and all that and like J five and and
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: then like you end up on like though like like
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: raucous record ship like the lyrics clown like and then
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: you're like a lot of a lot of wood tang ship,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: the day Walker, man, I'm all over the day. What
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: was kind of like your favorite era of just the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: underground rap ship because it feels like it's always evolving.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like nowadays underground hip hop is like
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: they're like super like weird gothic kids who like wear
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: like fucking giant pants and like are like like idolized
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Playboy CARDI.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Like, right, right, I don't know if I have a
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: favorite era, I do, you know, I think of I
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: think a Unity Man rest in Peace, Big of Bee,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: who also worked at.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Loud at abb Record.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was because.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: That's where a lot of people met, right, yeah, yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: you know that's Look. My best friend's brother is Raka.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so I've known, right, my best friend I've
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: known since three His big brother is Iris Science Wow.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: So I kind of came up like as like a
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: little dirty white kid taking.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: In all this shit, you know, but you know, so
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: you are you are already, but you so you started
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: this ship when.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I was artist. When I was fourteen years old, I
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: was chilling in a Fat Beat's office fucking for the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Expansion Team release thing. Rod Digger perform that fucking Then
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: there was the release show with I think J five. Yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: like we're coming out here to La my parents by
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: the way, very liberal with allowing me to get in
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the car with my sixteen year old homie and drive
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles. But yeah, change my life. What do
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: you feel like? I always say this, like, uh, there
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: isn't enough of There's so much travesty going on in
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: the world right now, stuff that I feel like there
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: that should be represented in hip hop more musically, we
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: talked about nature of the threat. Obviously you've worked with
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: a mortal. I always say, who's our immortal technique? Right now?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: We don't have like somebody who's like and maybe I'm
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: just like missing out on it because there are people
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: who are speaking up in shit, But there's so much
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: going on that what's going on in Gaza geopolitically, there's.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: A lot happening in the zone. Man.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, I just I did a song.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I did a song on a free EP That ep
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: is called FOP fuck Around find Out, And I got
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: a song called who the Victim? And that ship's like
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: one of them epic six minute songs. I mean, I
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: can make it. If nobody listens, that's not my fa I.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Just I just think I think back then, it's like
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: we think about like I guess the conscious hip hop
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: was was was semi commercial back in the day, like
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: it had there was like gold Records, you know what
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I like? Yeah, like Common was catching blacks, right, I
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: just like I just I just don't know who that
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: is like now, like that that is like on like
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: at least like from a certain generation that maybe still
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: has like like crazy commercial viability. That's just like, yo,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: let me put out a crazy record that just breaks
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: people's brains.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I think, uh, I think j I D sometimes j
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I D. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: mean he said some you know.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Like Denzel Curry is incredible and he just removed all
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: his music from streaming services in Israel. So if you're
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: in Israel, you can't listen to to Denzel Korey.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: And I.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Can't ruin it. It's people making stands. We all do
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: our part and and and some people's platforms are going
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: to be bigger than others.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: My thing is like I used to learn from music, right,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: but just to catch gems. I'm like, wait, I didn't
• 43:23
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• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Song you must learn from me? I was it was
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: facts in there, you know.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Like there's ship where you're like damn, like like people
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: used to be able to like learn ship, and I'm like,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: who's like putting like you know what I'm saying, Like
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: if I'm like like, I feel like it'd be dope
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: if with someone like you know, like a J I
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: D or someone in that generation just said, Hey, I'm
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: gonna do ten joints and it's gonna be fucking radical.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Put put it out there in the universe.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Who would you want?
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: They got to be smart enough qualified to at least
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: speak on it. See, that's the thing some people's true
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: because I don't know Michael.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Felt people to just throw some ship out in the
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: world and then people be like, well, that's not even
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: like let me fact check this song, right, huh. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: don't know, man who is very stooped. I think Jad
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: he is a prettiest stude guy.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he comes off and comes never mat but he
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: comes off his I think I like that word to
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: a stud who would really fuck the ship, Like we
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: just got gn X from Kendrick. Can you imagine and
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: that's like all bops?
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if he followed up with like in
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: the Universe the Public Enemy ship.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: He could pull an all star cast and murder death
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Kill it, and he's the guy that could get Chuck
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: d on the hook with blah blah blah. I mean,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: let's come on, top dog, come on man, let's put
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: it together.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Break because I remember there was like a discussion about
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: how you had almost had a situation with Jay Z
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: and Rockefeller West. Is that something like what break that down?
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: They were starting the bunt of Rockefeller West. We were
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: label made so Jay jay Z's first album rehe down priority,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: So then uh and then party fumbled on him, but
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: he had out the biggest completely fumbuddy.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: And good for him that they fled. He might career, he'd.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Be he definitely wouldn't trust and but he had it out.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't have the same out that Jay had. He
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: got in and out one out. Well, what it is
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: is he was in a production deal. So his production deal,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: you gotta remember it was Rockefeller Freeze Priority, which is
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Todd Terry Freeze was Todd Terry. Todd Terry made all
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: his money producing house songs. You black dude, but he
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: made house music for Madonna, so his bag was cra
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: So when they wanted when Pararty fucked up Jay and
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: then were able to hit Todd and say drop us
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and not severed the connection, and then Jay immediately went
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: to death.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Jam.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: If I could have got part I mean, I'm right,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: if I could have got fucking patchworks at the time.
• 46:10
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• 46:16
  Speaker 2: there was there was.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: There was a time for a long stretch where and
• 46:19
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• 46:21
  Speaker 4: But in Europe it was Warren.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think people understand the Warren g run Bro.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: It was fucking crazy.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: He bro.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: We'd be doing festivals and you know in La what
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: you would expect in New York. Warren was the man
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: like Big Records, Big they hit that. He picked the
• 46:38
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• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So you and Z label made yeah. So yeah, so.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: They brought me in one summer. I swear we just
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: had this conversation last night. This is crazy that you
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: that you So I'm living at Jay had two apartments
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: his uh one sixty. I forgot what it is State
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Street anyway, it's this apartment, uh, you know, gated in
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: downtown Brooklyn by the by the big gass clock in
• 47:05
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• 47:10
  Speaker 3: taught you, yeah, right hand and be high.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: His cousin.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: So I stayed for the summer to you know, to
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: create some music and see if if it's a good fit.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: And then uh he uh, I fumbled. I fumbled on
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: the one we went. I feel like, what what what
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: the music was coming out?
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Though. We went out to a club one night. Me,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: it's just me and Jay.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: What year is this? Two thousand somewhere.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Not tety seven? Is sho okay? Okay, because this is
• 47:49
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• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I had that the Waterproof jazz O produced it. So yeah,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: So we went out that night. I had been there
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: for like a month. Blue came my or other cousin
• 48:03
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• 48:06
  Speaker 3: so he would they would come, you know what I'm saying,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: come hang out with me. But long story short, we
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: went to a club one night and there was some tension.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: It was some beef. I won't mention the other people,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: but it's just me and Jay and uh this was
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: a really big, like goon size, and I remember like
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Jay was cool as a fiddle and then one of
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the niggas.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Like you you you were you with him?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I mean, like, you know, that's
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: the homie man I came with, bro, you know what
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I started drinking Hennessy because I'm just like,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: we're gonna get fucked up tonight. Like these niggas big.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: I know, Jay a tall nigga, but these niggas is
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: goons are like four of them. I'm like, we're gonna
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: get fucked up. So I started drinking, preparing to get
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: beat up because if they if they fire on Jay,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: then I got.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: You know, you gotta be you gotta be.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: A little ass.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, fuck, I'm as well just numb. I mean,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I'm a numb up ahead of time. So I got
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: really really drunk, and then Jay jumped on the mic
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and barred out spin some ship party packedge five you
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Whatever, And he barred out and
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: then he's like, I got my I got my man
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: out here from La Rads Cat's crowd with me. I'm
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: so drunk, I can't say my I'm fumble. That was
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: one of my biggest kid of shit. So and I
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: remember it just I lost the crowd. I lost the momntum,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: you know which is why I take this shiit seriously.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: But it was I felt like I should have got
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: credit because I was prepared for us to get beat up,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: you know so, But but when it's time to spit
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: them bars, you got to do your stuff. Nobody wanted
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: to could a shita would us? So I fumbled on
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: the one and I think from there dissipated and it
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: was the relationship was never the same again.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: So at that point in time, he was already plotting
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: doing a West Coast version of Rockefeller, because that's early
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: ninety seven, is like Rockefeller is not like no, no,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean he was up because ninety
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: seven Volume one comes out in ninety seven, right.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, probably value one.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously he's still fucking jay Z.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: But yeah, well hen fucked around, you know, he went
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: from zero to like gold to platinum, and then it was.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, once volume two happened, it was like, should say, oh,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: this is because then he headlines a hard Knock Life tour,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: which was crazy. The DMX shdn't the headline that, if
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just being honest, at that time, it's kind of crazy.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Resting piece of DMX.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Hey, we got to wrap up this interview another one
• 50:31
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• 50:34
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• 50:58
  Speaker 2: the four Horsemen thing. It feels like one of the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: more like interesting, a lot of weird moving parts. You
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: guys ended up putting on an album I think was
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: a part of that.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I call it. I call it
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: our debut debut finale.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one and done. Huh.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, clothes absolutely, I literally got I called
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: it the Last Ride or something like that. That was
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: the name of the album. My whole ship and I
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: said at the end of the album, I was like, yeah,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: this is this is our debut finale. We did one
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: one and done. Fuck this shit, put a fork in it.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I think I said some ship like that on the last.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Song, but it was It's hard.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Look, man, it's hard being in a group with one
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: like think about it, Pete Rock and sales move or
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Not many groups last.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: It's hard because there's a lot of That's why I
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: look at coach cons I'm like, damn that, you know,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: with that many different people, personalities, ego, potentially all these
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: other things, external factors. Some some dudes, girl might be
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: bedroom talking him. They you the best, baby, fuck them
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: and it could really go wrong. So with that being said,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: there's four of us with different careers. They also have
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: different parachutes. Hill Breeze got Wu Tang Clan, Corrupt, got
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: dog pound Snoop Cannabis. At the time, he still got
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: fucking Lauren Hill and all that time. Job right, no, no, no, now,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: But I'm talking about back then.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Back then, he back then, back then cannabis has the
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: white class.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: He got white clubs. That's what I'm saying.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of the only one without a squad, so
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: we could never get it all the way together. And
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: then I'm fucking I'm gonna tell the truth. We worked
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: on the songs we had, like originally we had like
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: we gonna be seven songs, and then uh, I went
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: to jail and by the time I came out, Uh,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: this ship is out like it's bootleg you get here,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: but it's eight. It's that So so we got But
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know who did well. Hilopriice always said, Dreddy
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: treddi Coueger from in New York, excuse me, bootleged us.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: But we didn't get no money and the songs wasn't mixed.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: So my whole thing was COVID gave me an opportunity
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: because I still had all the you know, all the sessions, right,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: you know, we all did. We had the right to
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: have the sessions. But they don't be giving a fuck.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Corrupt. I ain't gonna hold on session. You don't care,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I had, you know.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Like corrupts the kind of guy you just tell him
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: when and where to show up.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Right, and then he's gonna bar it out and he's
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: gonna kill he gonna come up with a great hook.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: But me, I'm sei.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Responsible with the music ship, with the organization, you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: and so I just kind of I was working on
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: some albums and then I remember I had you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: it was COVID. I was lied down time, so I
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: was just you know, I was able to. I just
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: remember I just was scrolling through my hard drive and
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: uh yeah, my flash drive and it's said Horseman. I
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: opened it and I saw this incomplete shit. I was like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: you know what, we should just do it. I'll just
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: put it all again. Sort of cool thing was I
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: put all these records together. You know, I kind of
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: had the glue take one verse from here, this Cannabis
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: verse from this one. And then I started kind of
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: finding production because you know what I'm saying, some of
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: the production was outdated.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Find some new beans curated around that. You know.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: You know, Chino excel Rect of Peace laid one of
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: the probably. I told him it was the MVP verse
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: of that album. But and then the cool thing we
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: did was my man Glitch. His name is Gift the Glitch.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: He's like a visual he was crazy man. So he
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: did all the artwork. We made a we made a
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: poster about Bumph the size of you know, but it
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: was square right, yeah, like that whatever, And we went
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: dro to Vegas, went to Corrupt House, put put the
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: album cover pitch up and I said, don't say nothing,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: and I just pressed play and then uh, and.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: This is all He's just hear these verses for the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: first time. When I do why did I record this?
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Right, he's freaking out.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: He's looking at the artwork and he's hearing the album
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: and and the cool thing is that, you know, and
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: it maybe it was very instrumental, especially helping me, because
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: he had some cannabis verses and so, you know, we
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: never would negate that we had already set up a deal,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: and so I was able to say, if you say yes,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I have a thousands of dollars I have I have this.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna PayPal you if you say yes. After he
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: heard the whole cannabis everybody got I did everything, you.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Did, everyone the same presentation. Yeah, like, look it's.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Even got to do nothing. Here's here's the artwork, played
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: the music. He wants some money, right, and we did it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: So and it was what what was that?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: What was was? It feels like it feels kind of
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: like interesting that you and cannabis kind of have like
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: similar similar I feel like he's kind of like the
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: East Coast Rascal cast if you will, like really, when
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I think of just like lyrical ability, oh yeah, he's
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: insane and just like supposed to be like the savior
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: of like because.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: But he got the opportunities I didn't get them.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: No, I agree, And he also like, you know, I
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: think Cannabis is an interesting.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Film, right yeah.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: When him, I was like, yeah, nice guy, Yeah, different definitely.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Man. Here, I'm gonna tell you my Cannabis story. This
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: is one I knew Cannabis was something else. I was
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: dating this Puerto Rican girl. She looked like faith Evans,
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: but she was not Faith Ovans. But anyway, what's up
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: with that out there?
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, girls, her friend was finer than her. She
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: was she was pretty. Yeah, friend was fire. We all
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: go out one night in the City of New York
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: like whatever. We buy the water by the pier, and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: I remember Cannabis started like she. I remember the girls
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: trying to like flirt with him, and she's like, oh,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: it's really nice out here, and this thinker started talking
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: about yeah, you know, and then the trajectory in the
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: UFO's land and I'm like, God, damn it, nigga, like
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: just tell her it's nice out here and touch her butt,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: my nigga. What the fun went so well? And then
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: he wrote his number down, but he wrote it in
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: words one oh any and.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: That is seven like this, that's like cannabish. Ever heard bro,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Bro He lives life like he wraps.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, he's absolutely who he says he is. Man. Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: that was That's my story.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: One of your trademarks. You're kind of like the Raisor
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Ramona hip hop. I mean because you you had that
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: motherfucking toothpick cracking. I got him for years. You were
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: like the guy who like always had the toothpick.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: But the whole ship was that was channeling Fonzie.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the funds it was. I thought it was flying
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: some cool ship. Yeah, you see the father Razor Ramon.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: That that was the whole. That's the that's the whole. Uh.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: And the secondary part was me an exhibit that said
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: at the time we didn't have I think maybe we
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: got our record deals and we was like, uh, we
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: should stop smoking. I was smoking beadies and he was
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: smoking weed.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: It's an oral fixation.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so I was like I might train myself
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: two pick straws right by up with straw Bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: but yeah, but smoking didn't stop smoking either, so it
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: just gave me another bad habit.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: But I liked but I liked the two pick because
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: it looked cool.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Would you know? I feel like anything is possible these days.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Have you an ex ever kicked the ball around of
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: like trying to do something with some of these Golden
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: State songs?
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: We had that conversation I just saw on Monday, So.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I think it is possible twenty twenty five. Everyone's independence.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out he brought it up. He
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: brought that up.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: He brought that up to me a month ago or more. So,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: if that son he wants to do, I'm cool with that,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. There's I think there's something
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: we wanted to do, as far as we just have
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: to make sure that the State and right it's done,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: because apparently there isn't a whole Severe album that then
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: that would allow us. And think about it, if there's
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: two verses per song, let alone, if there's three, and
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: then all you need is three, you know what I mean?
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and three of the songs out of the ten.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you guys just did a fucking EP
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: an EPU YouTube like some I want some on him. No,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I mean I think that would be right, but if
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: you couldn't figure out the estate situation.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: I think they're working on it so that I say
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: that to say, like the whole album that matter of fact,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: shout out mugs too, because I asked bugs, I need
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: you for five mics, sir, you know.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: You gotta come. You're gonna host the something for me?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: You know my party?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: Five mikes? Yeah? Man, that needs you. Man.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Man, what an era when five mics used to matter?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that we're channeling that kind of energy.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: What do you think is the biggest source fumble over
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: rating of all time? There's a lot of albums that
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: didn't get five mics. It got four and a half
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: or four. That's fucking crazy. The biggest Doggie Style didn't
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: get five mics.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was bullshit.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: That's a tame.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was bullshit. Some fact Soul on Ice and Night.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: When if it would have came out when it was
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: supposed to come out, which would have been ninety early
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: ninety five, I would have got six bikes.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: I would have been the only person to get six
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: bikes mics.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: They were gonna get because they gave Nads five and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: then they hurt nature to thread and all this other shit,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: and he were gonna give me six. I promised to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: God from lying I'm flying, but then they heard my album.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Then I had to go negotiate for a year and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: all this other shit. So by the time he came
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: down there, Yeah, it just.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: It was old.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: That's crazy if you think about like I guess like
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: XXL shit was cool, but it just never has been.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: And then the thing that sucked is when you kind
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: of figured and I guess like from a fan's perspective,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: you don't think about like politics of going the ratings
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: and right, but like you're like, oh, some of those
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: five mic albums definitely got paid for. Oh yeah yeah,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: like all like no disrespect to Little Kim because she
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: got a five mic album for the Torri's Kim and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: it's a good album, but.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: It's not five mikes. No no disrespect, no disrespect. Yeah,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Four mics?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Five?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Did mob did get any five?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: See, that's the same.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the infamous THINKI five mics?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: And then like uh, only built for Cuban links. I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: think was four and a half.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: That's insane. Jesus Christ.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Now there's some shit where you just this is just crazy.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: All right. So you're working on an album called Leopard
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Eats Face. Yes, sir, you just dropped the record with
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Smith and Wesson.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, forty two in honor of a man Jackie Robinson.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Sorry Tretch from Naughty by Natures on the album.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that song is called scar Tissue and My Man
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Wives p Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: So we dropped two singles this this quarter. The record
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: comes out first quarter next year, so uh, the rest
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: kind of floating out the rest of the year, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: then January we start dropping a couple more singles.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: But we got a lot of Uh.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: I hate when I can't remember who did shit but
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: beat Minors production whatever trade's on the album.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're You've had such a crazy synergy with the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: East Coast. Yeah, man, your entire career.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, people thought even.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I could the day Walker, I really could, you know,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: they they I think the fairness of New York is
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: that ultimately, if you could rap good, they give you
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: a chair. They don't give a fuck, you know what
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's why people can talk about eminem They're
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: just like fucked.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Were you like you're active during the time that all
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: this shit's happening East Coast West Coast ship? Obviously? Is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: it like a because you know, if you watched I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: just I've watched every fucking documentary about the Tupac being
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: ship that's probably ever been made that but rewatching the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Diddy have did you watch the Diddy things?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: I was just about to ask you that I have
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: not yet.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Everybody, it's it's really good, but fifty strikes again.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Man, No, but it's good and like a lot a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: lot of the stuff like in there, like I'd already
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: kind of known, but you know, it really kind of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: paints a like I wasn't super like hip to Ditty's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: connections with the crips in La right, and then the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: dude who's like his og from Harlem was kind of
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: middleman and a lot of that ship. So it does
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: seem like there is some smoke there on the right.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: And if you're Diddy, who we've known to be like
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: a pretty vindictive, like crazy motherfucker, it would make sense
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: if he was trying to rub out Sugar and because
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: he these motherfuckers have been embarrassing you. So it's like
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: but with that being said in the documentary, there was
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: like Eric Sherman was saying, this was not like some
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: East coast West coast ship. It was death Row versus
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: bad Boy. Yeah, like it was created. It was hyped
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: up by the media versus West.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: It was always I meaning method Man is on fucking
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: all eyes on me, right, Yeah, bot Camp Clip used
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: to work with Pa you know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Of course that was his. Yeah, that was his.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: It was called One Nation and it was it was
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: boot camp with with with thug like and not dug
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: like with dow Laws right packing them. Yeah, yeah, everybody.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I was always Oc was my big bro. And I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: was running around, like I said, with jay Z and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: the Rangers and Bleak Memphis Bleak like, yeah, I was.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: It was really about even when Po Pok wasn't there
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: yet when he got shot. When I went to live
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: with jay Z, it was his apartment on something. You know,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: just that that summer a big summer camp at Jame's apartment.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: But he Uh what was I saying?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: Uh? I forgot my point.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: We're talking about. You were saying that essentially when Pa
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Trick got.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I had to I hit one and other
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: homie Bunny Bee is bun and just say like I
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: caught you know, I politically, I just felt like I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: didn't want to, you know, just honor nobody, but in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: general not checking in or nothing like that. But I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: did let them know, like, hey man, I'm gonna go
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: stay over at jay Z's and you know, because I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: know he didn't like has Jack and he felt like
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: and Jimmy Henchman, you know what I'm saying. And we
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: worked at Henchman Studio. So I wanted to make sure
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: like I didn't look like I was tradering. So it
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: was some you didn't want the street problems. I don't
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: want to she was mad at me. I don't want
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: pop mad at me, you know what I mean? And
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: and he was getting mad at people.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: You know, Hey, you know what's crazy all time rappers
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: who raped from their stomach is you and Tupac. You
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: guys really you guys both raped from like from the gun, Yeah,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: from the gut?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: When you said that right now, I just thought I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you a park wrap from the gut.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: You guys have similar like you know who's on the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Carson Mount Rushmore of hip hop.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Who y'all tried, man, because they fuck you up.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Now that's the home and a great out to uh
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: good folks. The boy d boys dope too.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: I mean Bishop of Lomhan is my brother.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I call him Bishop Man.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, come on, man, he's on the album to me
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and we finally got one.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: He did one for me and I did one for
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: his new album solo. Man.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, uh, and it's some it's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: some younger brothers I member names best. Carson got a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: deep bench, That's what I'm saying. Like we got I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: just I'm just I need to get even more familiar
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: because it's it's I heard. She looked like she was
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: mixed with like some morning black girl and maybe Filipino
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: and black girl. And she had bars like and she
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: doing some numbers.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: That's starting to pos.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: As a kid from Phoenix, I never knew what Carson
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: was before I listened to you. So yeah, uh.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my mount Rushmore for right now, I'll leave it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: at Boo Yard tried absolute and I'm buying something.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I put me right, No, but you, I mean you
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: kind of built the mountain.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: Chi cool, all right, I'll take it. I'll take that,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: thank you.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: How did you come up with the calling yourself the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: waterproof mc oh man?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Uh? Do used always say water off a duck's ass
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: because it's waterproof, you know what I'm saying? Like never
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: like even they feathers waterpool, but the ducks ass has
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: got to be super waterproof, tight and puckered. So that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: that that's where it came from. And the niggas was
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: always talking about wetting people up a gun talk.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah that is true. That was kind of like some
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: ninety slang like I get you wet.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. So yeah, it was just like we me.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: It was either you were going to get shot or
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: you were going to do PCP if you were.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: Well yeah yeah, yeah, fact fact. All right.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: So the album's coming out first quarter next year.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, February February fourteenth. I think we got some
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: great uh you know, uh song set this off. Uh
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: we're onyx on the record.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: We got.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: Coast Contra rivtage uh.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: With that record.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: I really like it because it's we inspected deck from
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Wu Tang clan. So I like trying to like curate
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: and to right.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Would you ever do more A and R work?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: I enjoy it. That's what I like doing.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do feel like you have like a
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: like a you have an appreciation for I think that's
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: a key of being a good an R is like
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: how can I create a situation that might not ever
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: have happened had I not stepped in?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: And I love doing that and and it would be
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: great to have a budget like so I loved.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: It, like like problems doing it. Jason Martin's well, he's brilliant.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: He's so good at that.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Yah yeah yeah yeah yeah really and he actually got
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: you know, he can he got the hands, he can produce, produce,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I got vision and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: then my cousin is my hands a lot of times.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Fire yeah, good ship man, So look album coming out
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: first quarter. Two new singles out.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two new singles out there. The videos are out,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: you know, please support them. Leopardy's face you know, we'll
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: have the vinyls and the CDs and independent. Oh no,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: I did it with a sul spasm.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Fire yeah yeah, good ship rast cast appreciate you man.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: There it is then, thank you, my brother, appreciate you
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: at