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- 0:06Speaker 1: Welcome back to the District Territory podcast. I'm your host today,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Eric Shellhouse alongside me Spencer Nusbaum of The Athletic. The
- 0:14Speaker 1: Nationals coming off of a series in which they take
- 0:16Speaker 1: two of three from the Orioles, and as Blake u
- 0:19Speaker 1: Terra said the other day, I think pretty good overall.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Can't have a lot of complaints from this series. But Spencer,
- 0:25Speaker 1: two out of three from the O's, how are we feeling?
- 0:29Speaker 2: Yeah, the vibe a on the team is really high.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Again.
- 0:32Speaker 2: I know they wanted to get over five hundred and
- 0:36Speaker 2: that was whether stated or not, that was obviously a
- 0:38Speaker 2: goal for this team. But as Frannie talked about last time,
- 0:42Speaker 2: you're never going to be upset when you take two
- 0:44Speaker 2: out of three, especially from a team like the Orioles.
- 0:48Speaker 3: You know, Blake.
- 0:49Speaker 2: And the Orioles manager kraud Gobin has obviously go pretty
- 0:53Speaker 2: far back and had joked kind of coming into the season.
- 0:57Speaker 2: You know, Blake is like, hey, you know, like he
- 1:00Speaker 2: has his jaw, he has some josh es right now,
- 1:02Speaker 2: like he probably wants to stay on the other side
- 1:03Speaker 2: of the dugout. Alexa Datt did a great segment that
- 1:07Speaker 2: had those two talking smack to one another. So yeah,
- 1:11Speaker 2: I think Blake is obviously going to be rooting for
- 1:14Speaker 2: the Orioles when they're not playing the Nets, but he
- 1:16Speaker 2: was quite delighted to take two out of three from
- 1:20Speaker 2: his friend.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Yeah, two out of three from the Crosstown rivals. And
- 1:24Speaker 1: we'll get into that rivalry rivalry a little bit more
- 1:28Speaker 1: if you will later on, but give you a quick
- 1:29Speaker 1: look at the National League's standings this morning.
- 1:32Speaker 3: The Nationals twenty three and twenty four.
- 1:34Speaker 1: They did get to that five hundred mark on Saturday
- 1:37Speaker 1: after the victory, but currently nine games back of the Braves.
- 1:40Speaker 1: They sit at thirty two and fifteen, squished in there
- 1:43Speaker 1: between the Phillies and the Marlins. Do want to give
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- 1:59Speaker 1: out after Friday's victory, the Nationals winning three to two
- 2:02Speaker 1: that started in the top beg your pardon in the
- 2:05Speaker 1: bottom of the fourth inning on a sacrifice for sacrifice
- 2:09Speaker 1: fly from Brady House CJ. Abrams tagging up from third base,
- 2:13Speaker 1: you see in right field having to fully extend, allowing
- 2:17Speaker 1: Abrams to score a lot easier, and then later on
- 2:20Speaker 1: Dalan Lyle contributing with a two run homer. When I
- 2:22Speaker 1: was driving to Tucson, I nearly swerved off of the
- 2:25Speaker 1: highway fist pumping. Listening to this on the radio. It
- 2:28Speaker 1: just fired me up because you knew that was the
- 2:30Speaker 1: insurance that the Nationals were looking for at the time.
- 2:33Speaker 1: In the seventh inning, the Orioles had two runners on,
- 2:36Speaker 1: but Andrew Alvarez beg your pardon striking him out. This
- 2:40Speaker 1: was just a terrific game. We're all around and there
- 2:42Speaker 1: was a lot of drama at the end. Spencer, We'll
- 2:44Speaker 1: get into that in a moment, But what can you
- 2:47Speaker 1: tell me about You know, Andrew Alvarez is outing on
- 2:50Speaker 1: Friday because he was really spectacular, and as some Nats
- 2:53Speaker 1: listeners may know, he has not been sent back down
- 2:56Speaker 1: to Triple A yet and I'm intrigued as to what
- 2:59Speaker 1: the next correspond move.
- 3:00Speaker 3: Will be there.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yeah, the the closest thing I was following all weekend
- 3:05Speaker 2: was Alvarez makes his debut last year, pitches in a
- 3:09Speaker 2: shutout the Nationals don't have another shutout until he gets
- 3:13Speaker 2: called up again and pitches as part of that shutout.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It seemed very close to happening yet again over the
- 3:19Speaker 2: weekend or specifically on Friday. This is someone who, again
- 3:24Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think you'll see him or have seen
- 3:27Speaker 2: him on any high up on any prospect lists or
- 3:31Speaker 2: things of that nature. I know his last couple starts
- 3:33Speaker 2: in Rochester haven't been exactly what he wanted. By credit
- 3:37Speaker 2: to him, every single time he's come up to the
- 3:39Speaker 2: big leagues, he has shown that he belongs up here.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Now again, I don't know what sort of leash the
- 3:46Speaker 2: Nationals will necessarily give him, but you really have to
- 3:50Speaker 2: give the guy credit. He has been thrown in a
- 3:51Speaker 2: lot of uncomfortable situations. He's been you know, yanked up,
- 3:55Speaker 2: yanked down, you know, asked to pitch out a relief,
- 4:00Speaker 2: all these things that aren't necessarily natural for someone like him,
- 4:04Speaker 2: and he's really shown up in those spots. So credit
- 4:07Speaker 2: to him on the execution, on the game planning, and
- 4:10Speaker 2: really kind of just going out there and giving that
- 4:12Speaker 2: that's what they need.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about how important routine can be for
- 4:17Speaker 1: a pitcher, that guy has been going in and out
- 4:19Speaker 1: of relief and starting, and then I'm not sure how
- 4:21Speaker 1: many times he's pitched in the ninth inning in his career,
- 4:24Speaker 1: but pitching in a high pressure situation in the ninth
- 4:26Speaker 1: inning on Friday Night. It came down to bases loaded,
- 4:30Speaker 1: nobody out, and the Nats would turn it over to
- 4:32Speaker 1: Gus Varlan, who was not quite able to finish the job.
- 4:35Speaker 1: But you get to self a look at the Friday
- 4:38Speaker 1: self box Friday Night box score those of you watching online.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Zach Lytell was the starting pitcher. He was great five
- 4:45Speaker 1: innings of shutout baseball, and then Alvarez was also terrific
- 4:48Speaker 1: three innings of shutout baseball before turning it over to
- 4:51Speaker 1: his teammates there in the ninth He was not on
- 4:53Speaker 1: the mound as those runs were all out, but it
- 4:56Speaker 1: was second and third with two outs and Taylor Ward
- 4:58Speaker 1: at the bat, and I want to pull up this
- 5:00Speaker 1: look Drew Millis gave the Taylor Ward after the challenge,
- 5:03Speaker 1: sort of just a mutual look of respect, is what
- 5:05Speaker 1: I was feeling when I was watching this. You know
- 5:08Speaker 1: that ABS replay is close on the right side there,
- 5:10Speaker 1: but Nolle's just getting a little look down saying yep,
- 5:12Speaker 1: you had it, because Taylor Ward was getting ready to
- 5:15Speaker 1: head down to first base quite quickly there but yet
- 5:17Speaker 1: bases loaded two outs and Adley Rutchman at the point,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and Richard Lovelady was all of us doing a little
- 5:23Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that is on the three D replay,
- 5:25Speaker 1: a little shimmer step and then a fist pump afterwards,
- 5:29Speaker 1: letting the emotions out of Spencer. What do you hear
- 5:32Speaker 1: from him after the game and how much it's meant
- 5:34Speaker 1: for him to be thrown into these sort of situations.
- 5:38Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what.
- 5:38Speaker 2: I brought this up when I was talking to reporters
- 5:40Speaker 2: the other day. Richard Lovelady talks as if he's never
- 5:46Speaker 2: watched another player's interview before. And I mean that as
- 5:48Speaker 2: an absolute compliment. He is someone who wears his emotions
- 5:52Speaker 2: on his sleeve. He tells us exactly what he's thinking,
- 5:55Speaker 2: and what he's thinking after a game like this and
- 5:57Speaker 2: in a moment like this is Hey, you know, I've
- 5:59Speaker 2: been does needed for assignment nine times over the last
- 6:02Speaker 2: two years. I've had to pitch in a lot of
- 6:04Speaker 2: different roles. I've been yanked up, I've been yanked down,
- 6:09Speaker 2: even from the time he debuted, just optioned again and
- 6:12Speaker 2: again and again. And what he's done over the last
- 6:16Speaker 2: you know, handful of weeks for the Nationals is he's
- 6:19Speaker 2: been trusted with high leverage spots and he said it
- 6:21Speaker 2: means absolutely everything to him, relief. Pitching is an extremely
- 6:25Speaker 2: hard job, again without a lot of job security, a
- 6:28Speaker 2: lot of guarantees, and you can feel that every single
- 6:32Speaker 2: time he pitches. And frankly, it's the same with Gus Varland.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Not exactly the same trajectory, but the same sort of vibe.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Again another late round pick. You just you have so
- 6:41Speaker 2: many of these guys on the Nationals who have stepped
- 6:43Speaker 2: up in big spots in part because they haven't developed,
- 6:46Speaker 2: you know, high octane guys who throw one oh one
- 6:50Speaker 2: and had that through the system. And so they're lying
- 6:52Speaker 2: on a lot of these guys who have been counted
- 6:54Speaker 2: out other places or even counted out internally. And I think,
- 6:58Speaker 2: you know, when we talk about them get to five hundred,
- 7:01Speaker 2: having a chip on their shoulder, exceeding expectations, that's exactly
- 7:05Speaker 2: what you see from this bullpen more than probably any
- 7:07Speaker 2: other part of the roster. So it's been really cool
- 7:10Speaker 2: to watch yeah.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Take one more look at that box score from oh
- 7:13Speaker 1: excuse me, yes, that is pit Friday's pitching box score
- 7:16Speaker 1: those of you watching online. That's really good. You take
- 7:19Speaker 1: a look at your starting pitcher he gets a win.
- 7:22Speaker 1: To take a look at the two guys between the
- 7:24Speaker 1: save they get credit for a hold. And of course
- 7:26Speaker 1: that's Alvarez his first of the season and Richard Lovelady's
- 7:29Speaker 1: second save. He's been flipping in and out of that
- 7:32Speaker 1: opener's closers roll a little bit this season. We'll get
- 7:34Speaker 1: into that later on in the show. But quickly, let's
- 7:37Speaker 1: talk about Saturday's game, or excuse me that Sundays tweet.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Talk about Saturday's game really quickly, which was the second
- 7:44Speaker 1: straight sellout for the Nationals, forty thousand fans in attendance,
- 7:48Speaker 1: and the Nationals put on quite a show for them,
- 7:50Speaker 1: winning thirteen to three bottom of the second inning.
- 7:53Speaker 3: They showed off some.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Really clean deferent Yeah, really clean defense, Jose Teena getting
- 7:57Speaker 1: a five to four to three double play started with
- 8:00Speaker 1: runners at the corners and one out, a scoring opportunity
- 8:02Speaker 1: for the Orioles there, and then that's had a response
- 8:04Speaker 1: to that is cavert ruiz. This ball, had a launch
- 8:08Speaker 1: angle of forty degrees off of the bat, just a
- 8:10Speaker 1: towering shot, a three run bomb. But he is really
- 8:13Speaker 1: starting to get it going right now, Spencer. Is this
- 8:16Speaker 1: something that you think he can sustain?
- 8:20Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I mean I'd have to wait to see it.
- 8:22Speaker 2: But you're seeing a lot of good signs with k
- 8:24Speaker 2: Beert in terms of consistency. He hasn't stopped chasing in
- 8:31Speaker 2: every single game, but in the games where he has
- 8:34Speaker 2: shown up, it's been a lot better. He actually drew
- 8:38Speaker 2: a walk yesterday, which is just his tenth walk over
- 8:40Speaker 2: the last two years, and so that's again a small
- 8:43Speaker 2: butt encouraging sign. And one of the biggest things I'm
- 8:46Speaker 2: looking at him with too, is the bat speed. It's
- 8:49Speaker 2: always been part of his game to have a slow
- 8:52Speaker 2: bat speed that allows him to make really good contact,
- 8:55Speaker 2: to make contact with any pitches, but that's also been
- 8:57Speaker 2: a bit of an achilles el as I think we've
- 8:59Speaker 2: both seen and I think you've seen. When he's been
- 9:02Speaker 2: able to tap into some of that power, it's to
- 9:05Speaker 2: the poll side and he's been letting it rip a
- 9:09Speaker 2: little bit more than he has in the past. So yeah, again,
- 9:12Speaker 2: I think it speaks to good coaching, and I think
- 9:15Speaker 2: it speaks to good process from k Bert. That that said,
- 9:19Speaker 2: I still think it's a small enough sample that we'd
- 9:22Speaker 2: probably want to see a little more to say this
- 9:25Speaker 2: is sustainable, especially with given how slow the season started.
- 9:29Speaker 2: But you know, it's very encouraging to see what he's
- 9:33Speaker 2: what he's done so far. And as you've seen too,
- 9:35Speaker 2: like the catching has been a real problem in terms
- 9:38Speaker 2: of the entire output, Millis has also struggled at the plate.
- 9:41Speaker 2: He too has turned around a little bit. So if
- 9:43Speaker 2: they can get that from the eight nine spots in
- 9:46Speaker 2: the order, I mean, it just makes offense all the
- 9:49Speaker 2: more deeper.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we know I mean not as we know,
- 9:52Speaker 1: but his national stands, I mean over the years, kra
- 9:54Speaker 1: Ruiz is a bit of a streaky player from an
- 9:57Speaker 1: offensive standpoint, and so to just see him get rolling
- 10:00Speaker 1: on another one of these streaks again and collecting so
- 10:02Speaker 1: many RBIs in the process certainly gets exciting to talk about.
- 10:06Speaker 1: The next thing I wanted to get into in that
- 10:07Speaker 1: recap is in the sixth inning, Cabert turned a walk
- 10:11Speaker 1: into a strikeout. We've been talking about that decent bit
- 10:13Speaker 1: on this show, but how meaningful that can be an
- 10:17Speaker 1: impactful for the game. But Cabert turned to walk into
- 10:20Speaker 1: a strikeout to start the sixth inning.
- 10:22Speaker 3: That was the first out that was huge.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Game Day three D replay doesn't really do it justice,
- 10:27Speaker 1: but dalan Lyle made an incredible, incredible catch sliding into
- 10:31Speaker 1: the left field corner. You see the umpire signaling for
- 10:33Speaker 1: a catch there. And then cj abrams with two outs
- 10:36Speaker 1: in the dangerous Pete Alazzo at the plate, laying out
- 10:39Speaker 1: and making a diving play to his left, firing across
- 10:42Speaker 1: the diamond and boom.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Then that's rut of that inning.
- 10:44Speaker 1: And I feel like that inning really exemplified how good
- 10:48Speaker 1: their defense was over the weekend because I wish Franny
- 10:51Speaker 1: was on today that I feel like for a three
- 10:53Speaker 1: game set, this might have been the most sound defense
- 10:55Speaker 1: we've seen from the squad all season.
- 10:58Speaker 2: That is exactly what I was going to say. It's
- 11:00Speaker 2: so good too, because you look at the players who
- 11:02Speaker 2: stepped up. Again, you mentioned Dalan Lyle. He's someone who
- 11:05Speaker 2: really struggled on defense last year, knew it going into
- 11:08Speaker 2: the offseason and really worked on it. You know, he
- 11:10Speaker 2: worked with a trainer who helped him with his reaction time.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Corey Ray has been out there all the time helping
- 11:17Speaker 2: him with that, and he needs it on that play.
- 11:20Speaker 2: You look at CJ again, another one who I think
- 11:22Speaker 2: over the last four years by outs above average, is
- 11:26Speaker 2: graded out as the worst defensive player in baseball. Like,
- 11:29Speaker 2: there's no sugarcoating that. Necessarily. He's someone where again it's
- 11:33Speaker 2: taken some time this season too, but I keep working
- 11:36Speaker 2: on him, with him on his aggressiveness, on the preparation,
- 11:42Speaker 2: on all these sort of little things that make a
- 11:44Speaker 2: good defensive player. And the biggest thing for CJ is
- 11:47Speaker 2: he is athletic enough to know that he can get
- 11:50Speaker 2: to almost any ball if he really needs to. And
- 11:52Speaker 2: so to see that aggressiveness, to see that show up again,
- 11:56Speaker 2: you want it to be sustainable. But man, is this
- 11:57Speaker 2: a really good sign that they have a handful of
- 12:00Speaker 2: guys who have taken a coaching who have taken it
- 12:03Speaker 2: upon themselves to really work hard in that aspect, especially
- 12:07Speaker 2: for CJ since the start of the season. Yeah, I
- 12:10Speaker 2: mean it's encouraging. It's a small sample, but you know
- 12:13Speaker 2: they've given up a lot of runs this year because
- 12:15Speaker 2: of it, So I'm sure the pitchers are happy I'm
- 12:18Speaker 2: sure Nationals fans are happy, and I know they're happy
- 12:20Speaker 2: in the clubhouse.
- 12:21Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:21Speaker 1: And for those of you that were not watching over
- 12:23Speaker 1: the weekend, there were several balls that outfielders played off
- 12:27Speaker 1: of the wall that were just fantastic, whether it was
- 12:30Speaker 1: Lyle Wood or Jacob Young making some incredible plays from
- 12:34Speaker 1: a defensive side that the defense in the outfield was
- 12:38Speaker 1: terrific this weekend, and it's all around, it was terrific.
- 12:41Speaker 1: If you look at the seventh inning here things started
- 12:43Speaker 1: to get a little interesting. There's three nothing Nats, I
- 12:45Speaker 1: believe at the time or four nothing Nationals at the time.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Samuel Basio came up and k Cavali allowed just his
- 12:52Speaker 1: second home run of the season. I remember I was
- 12:54Speaker 1: surprised when I heard that just his second. And just
- 12:57Speaker 1: as many batters later, O'Neill would go ahead and smack
- 13:01Speaker 1: a home run, this one going to wopping one ten
- 13:04Speaker 1: off of about four h two into the left field bleachers.
- 13:06Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the Orioles had something cooking, and
- 13:08Speaker 1: then Kobe Mayo hit a very long foul ball that
- 13:12Speaker 1: went to replay, and the Nats and Orioles broadcast may
- 13:16Speaker 1: have had some different opinions and thoughts on this, but
- 13:18Speaker 1: the ultimate call was a foul ball and the game
- 13:22Speaker 1: remained four to two, thank Phili, courtesy of a Jacob
- 13:25Speaker 1: Young catch here in centerfield. This replay is not going
- 13:28Speaker 1: to do it justice as it sort of just goes into.
- 13:30Speaker 3: The wall there.
- 13:31Speaker 1: But you know, NAT's fans, over the years, we become
- 13:33Speaker 1: very accustomed to plays like this from Jacob Young, and
- 13:36Speaker 1: then Young would go on to add his fourth home
- 13:39Speaker 1: run of the season that was a screamer off of
- 13:41Speaker 1: the bat, and then Brady House getting in the party
- 13:44Speaker 1: as well, the Nationals winning thirteen to three on Saturday.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Give you a quick look at that box score. It's crowded,
- 13:51Speaker 1: so it takes a second to digest. But he got
- 13:53Speaker 1: thirteen hits, thirty eight at bats, and four walks in
- 13:57Speaker 1: the process only five strikeouts too. Were able to put
- 14:00Speaker 1: the ball and play pretty well over the weekend. But
- 14:03Speaker 1: you know, final thoughts for you on Saturday, Spencer, I
- 14:06Speaker 1: mean that that was the one that got us to
- 14:08Speaker 1: the five hundred mark, and you heard few terrorist comments
- 14:11Speaker 1: after the game, giving a shout out to the fans
- 14:13Speaker 1: and just really really hearing and feeling the noise and
- 14:16Speaker 1: energy in the ballpark that day totally.
- 14:19Speaker 2: And again, as I've talked about before, a lot of
- 14:21Speaker 2: these Nationals play with a chip on their shoulder because
- 14:23Speaker 2: they want to prove people wrong. They also want to
- 14:27Speaker 2: prove each other right, they want to prove the fans right.
- 14:31Speaker 2: And so when they have forty thousand people in the stands,
- 14:34Speaker 2: I'm not saying that guarantees a win by any stretch,
- 14:38Speaker 2: but it does feel different in that building, and you know,
- 14:42Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say they play a little
- 14:44Speaker 2: different in that building when that's when that's the case.
- 14:46Speaker 2: So yeah, it was really cool to see them finally
- 14:50Speaker 2: get over to that five hundred mark. As I can't
- 14:53Speaker 2: remember if we touched on last time, but they'd been
- 14:55Speaker 2: zero to fifteen before and over the last two years
- 14:58Speaker 2: in terms of the game. To get to five one hundred.
- 15:00Speaker 2: When they were a game under and they were tested again,
- 15:03Speaker 2: you know, they went up for nothing. Oils brought it
- 15:06Speaker 2: back to four to three, and that's where the Nationals
- 15:08Speaker 2: folded in the same exact situation a week before. They
- 15:12Speaker 2: did it there, and again, just just want to give
- 15:16Speaker 2: more credit to the hitting side of things. It's been
- 15:20Speaker 2: an exceptionally deep lineup as of late. I think that's
- 15:23Speaker 2: probably the key indicator that has helped them get to
- 15:26Speaker 2: that point. And you've seen a lot of guys who
- 15:29Speaker 2: the league made adjustments to them in late April early May,
- 15:34Speaker 2: and they struggled, and then they struggled for about four
- 15:37Speaker 2: days and then they turned it right back around. That's
- 15:41Speaker 2: not something we saw the Nationals do in years past,
- 15:43Speaker 2: at least not to this degree. They're the highest scoring
- 15:46Speaker 2: offense in baseball, and yeah, they deserve a ton of
- 15:49Speaker 2: credit for what they've done. It's been really encouraging to
- 15:52Speaker 2: watch them adjust four games in games, do the sorts
- 15:55Speaker 2: of things that professional offenses do without a veteran in
- 15:59Speaker 2: the lineup. It's been really cool.
- 16:01Speaker 1: I'm going to take a quick break and when we
- 16:03Speaker 1: come back, we'll talk about Sunday. We'll talk about the
- 16:05Speaker 1: Mets coming into town later today and start to preview
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- 17:13Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Let's talk about Sunday a
- 17:16Speaker 1: little bit. Spencer, you know, only got to take some
- 17:19Speaker 1: bad with the good. The Nationals not able to get
- 17:21Speaker 1: over that five hundred thresholder as we were talking about
- 17:24Speaker 1: before the break, but able to get back to five hundred,
- 17:26Speaker 1: which was a nice relief for Nationals.
- 17:29Speaker 3: Fans.
- 17:29Speaker 1: So on Sunday, the Nationals dropped the game seven to three.
- 17:32Speaker 1: The Orioles bats finally woke up. Gunnar Henderson got the
- 17:36Speaker 1: party started with a third deck home run. When I
- 17:38Speaker 1: was watching this, I'm wondering, does he get a seat
- 17:41Speaker 1: up there? I think they do that for the away
- 17:42Speaker 1: teams as well, but they put a red commemorative seat
- 17:45Speaker 1: up there for those of you that don't know. And
- 17:47Speaker 1: then Kobe Mayo schmack and won off of the bat,
- 17:49Speaker 1: and yeah, he had no doubt about that one.
- 17:51Speaker 3: But the Nationals had a response for that.
- 17:53Speaker 1: In the bottom half of the inning, Jacob Young his
- 17:56Speaker 1: second home run in his many days, this one a
- 17:58Speaker 1: screaming line drive off the bat one oh three, his
- 18:01Speaker 1: fifth home run in the season. Spencer, This is quite
- 18:04Speaker 1: a power surge that he's been on recently. I believe
- 18:07Speaker 1: he's on pace for close to twenty five home runs,
- 18:10Speaker 1: somewhere in the twenty to twenty five ballpark when I
- 18:12Speaker 1: was doing it before. But it's it's impressive what we've
- 18:16Speaker 1: been seeing from Jay lately in terms of a slugging standpoint.
- 18:21Speaker 3: Yeah, and again.
- 18:21Speaker 2: That's never been part of his game. He's been the
- 18:23Speaker 2: first to admit it. It's funny, even when we were
- 18:25Speaker 2: in Miami. So he hits this homer. Forget if it
- 18:28Speaker 2: was to left center, right, but he hits it, and
- 18:31Speaker 2: he forgets. You're always supposed to give credit to the
- 18:33Speaker 2: bullpen as you run first base. Sean Doolittle in particular,
- 18:37Speaker 2: was out there that day and he forgot to put
- 18:38Speaker 2: the finger up. So you see him, you know, walk
- 18:40Speaker 2: back to the dugout, pick up the pick up the phone,
- 18:43Speaker 2: and he has to call out there to apologize. When
- 18:46Speaker 2: I talked to him after the game that day, he said, yeah,
- 18:48Speaker 2: you know, I just don't hit many homers, so I forget.
- 18:51Speaker 2: But I think that's going to have to change. Like
- 18:53Speaker 2: do I think Jacob is a twenty homer a season header. No,
- 18:58Speaker 2: And I think that he would probably couldncur with that.
- 19:02Speaker 2: But he's someone who's tapped into a lot more power
- 19:04Speaker 2: this season. He's someone where if I'm looking at some
- 19:07Speaker 2: of these big picture trends that I like to talk about,
- 19:10Speaker 2: he added a ton of bat speed this offseason, maintained
- 19:13Speaker 2: it in spring training. I think he's up like a
- 19:15Speaker 2: mile and a half, which you know, for people who
- 19:17Speaker 2: don't look at the numbers all the time. What does
- 19:19Speaker 2: that mean. That's a pretty drastic improvement, and it's helped him,
- 19:23Speaker 2: you know, lift the ball in the air more. He's
- 19:25Speaker 2: pulled the ball in the air more, which is again
- 19:27Speaker 2: another big part of his game, or hasn't been a
- 19:30Speaker 2: big part of his game, but he wants it to be.
- 19:33Speaker 2: So Yeah, again, it's just I hate to keep saying
- 19:36Speaker 2: it over and over because it's not just coaching, it's
- 19:39Speaker 2: the players themselves. But it speaks to some of these
- 19:42Speaker 2: big picture philosophies that we've been talking about with the players.
- 19:45Speaker 2: And yeah, Jacob's been pretty fired up about it. Obviously,
- 19:49Speaker 2: again someone who hasn't hit a ton of homers in
- 19:51Speaker 2: the past and makes jokes about that as well. But yeah,
- 19:54Speaker 2: super encouraging to see what he's been doing.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Zuckerman tweeting this out during the game. In
- 19:58Speaker 1: his one hundred and sixty six or part of me
- 20:01Speaker 1: played appearances in twenty twenty six five home runs over
- 20:04Speaker 1: his big league career from twenty three to twenty five,
- 20:06Speaker 1: just five home runs. So hey, this is a new
- 20:09Speaker 1: corner or a new turn for Jacob perhaps, And yeah,
- 20:12Speaker 1: if he can even be a ten home run a season,
- 20:15Speaker 1: guy would certainly be a new player or refreshing new
- 20:18Speaker 1: player for Nats fans a few years past. This was
- 20:22Speaker 1: an interesting place. I just wanted your thoughts on it, Spencer.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Samuel Bisio tracking a pop up from CJ. Abrams having
- 20:29Speaker 1: a little trouble with it in making the catch. I
- 20:32Speaker 1: just thought that looked silly on the three D replay.
- 20:35Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily a significant play. But was there anything
- 20:39Speaker 1: you noticed of like, that's what they call a big
- 20:42Speaker 1: league pop up?
- 20:43Speaker 3: That thing took a second to come down. Yeah, no
- 20:46Speaker 3: big thoughts.
- 20:46Speaker 2: But anytime a ball gets hit up to where we
- 20:48Speaker 2: are in the press box or about that eye level,
- 20:52Speaker 2: as you well know, Eric, it's that ball can move,
- 20:54Speaker 2: it can trend. It's not quite Wrigly in terms of wind,
- 20:56Speaker 2: but man is it is it hard to track some
- 20:59Speaker 2: of those.
- 21:00Speaker 1: I don't know if I could attest to Wrigley, I
- 21:01Speaker 1: still haven't been yet, but I didn't need to get
- 21:03Speaker 1: out there later on in the game. Colton Kowser, this
- 21:06Speaker 1: was really the big blow, a three run homer or
- 21:09Speaker 1: maybe a two run home At the time. It put
- 21:11Speaker 1: the Orioles up six to one, which again it didn't
- 21:14Speaker 1: feel like the game was out of reach at that point.
- 21:16Speaker 1: The Nationals would get another run later on a wonky
- 21:19Speaker 1: play CJ abrams RBI base hit, but it kicking off
- 21:23Speaker 1: of the glove of CJ.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Excuse me, CJ rounding first.
- 21:27Speaker 1: They're kicking off the glove of Pete Alonzo there at
- 21:29Speaker 1: first base. It was just a wonky play all around.
- 21:32Speaker 1: I didn't get an angle at James there at second.
- 21:35Speaker 1: But the NAT's had runners on for Dalen Lyle, who
- 21:38Speaker 1: has just been so hot lately, unfortunately not able to
- 21:41Speaker 1: come through in that moment. We were talking about Dalen
- 21:43Speaker 1: a little bit before the show, but you know, he's
- 21:47Speaker 1: been so hot. You know, you can't blame him for
- 21:48Speaker 1: coming up short there in that situation. But yesterday was
- 21:53Speaker 1: an interesting game. It just never really had the feeling
- 21:55Speaker 1: like the Nationals got clicking, as opposed to other games
- 22:00Speaker 1: over the course of the season, like the game where
- 22:02Speaker 1: they are getting wolved in Sincy the other day, where
- 22:04Speaker 1: I was like this, this game doesn't really feel over
- 22:07Speaker 1: just yet, like they feel like they're in this And
- 22:09Speaker 1: I never really got that sense from yesterday. And I'm
- 22:13Speaker 1: wondering if you can help sort of stort me through
- 22:15Speaker 1: that maybe where I'm thinking that or where it's coming from,
- 22:19Speaker 1: because it just never had the sense that they were
- 22:22Speaker 1: gonna make that thrust back into the game yesterday. And
- 22:25Speaker 1: I don't know if it has to do with if
- 22:26Speaker 1: you tear a strategy or with the lineup he ran
- 22:29Speaker 1: out or anything, but what are your thoughts?
- 22:31Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. And the thing too, was
- 22:34Speaker 2: the top of the lineup was pretty decent. Again Again,
- 22:37Speaker 2: I think it's that we've seen a sort of inevitability
- 22:41Speaker 2: with this Nationals offense because the bottom of it has
- 22:43Speaker 2: been so productive, and it seems like these innings go
- 22:45Speaker 2: on and on and on, because you have, like a
- 22:48Speaker 2: if a Jose ten is hitting seventh, like he has
- 22:50Speaker 2: an OPS around eight hundred. If you have Jorbert Vivas
- 22:53Speaker 2: like he's been struggling recently, but he's getting on base.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Kber is trending up. Like all these guys who you
- 22:59Speaker 2: weren't necessarily counting on coming into the season have been
- 23:03Speaker 2: able to extend innings. Bring bring up James, bring up
- 23:07Speaker 2: guys like Curtis and Louis towards the top of the lineup,
- 23:11Speaker 2: and that, you know, I think you saw a lot
- 23:13Speaker 2: of these innings fall a little short because the bottom
- 23:15Speaker 2: half lineup just wasn't able to uh to produce and
- 23:18Speaker 2: show up. But again, I think for me, so much
- 23:22Speaker 2: of what I look at in that game was more
- 23:25Speaker 2: the inevitability of the pitching woes. And that's not to
- 23:28Speaker 2: say like, oh, obviously every time you throw Miles Micheliss
- 23:31Speaker 2: out there like he's gonna struggle, Like he's had some
- 23:34Speaker 2: good outings recently, but just not a ton of swing
- 23:38Speaker 2: and miss in his arsenal. Not a ton of swing
- 23:42Speaker 2: and miss throughout the Nationals arsenal. And that's something I
- 23:44Speaker 2: wrote about a little bit today. You know, for all
- 23:48Speaker 2: the improvements we've seen, if you aren't striking a ton
- 23:51Speaker 2: of guys out and you're giving up some of these homers,
- 23:54Speaker 2: you're going to really struggle to win baseball games. I
- 23:56Speaker 2: know it's something they're focusing on the minor leagues. I
- 23:58Speaker 2: know it's something they're focusing on here, But yeah, like
- 24:02Speaker 2: you go back to the miclist at bat against Mayo.
- 24:04Speaker 2: He throws nine pitches, he throws basically every single pitch,
- 24:08Speaker 2: and his arsenal backs it back to back to back
- 24:10Speaker 2: to back, just can't get him out. It's a situation
- 24:13Speaker 2: where when you when that's going on, Like a home
- 24:15Speaker 2: run feels inevitable as much as a national has comeback
- 24:18Speaker 2: feels inevitable. So something to focus on and something that
- 24:22Speaker 2: they're obviously working on heading into the rest of the year.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Yeah, in Blake, Butira's words, Mayo is a really good hitter,
- 24:30Speaker 1: and miles through everything he had. He certainly through everything
- 24:33Speaker 1: he had on me and at that that one was
- 24:34Speaker 1: a grimy one and a gutsy at bat. I want
- 24:37Speaker 1: to give a shout out to the Orioles pitching really quickly.
- 24:41Speaker 3: I did not update that.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Okay, it looks like I do not have the Orioles
- 24:44Speaker 1: pitching box scoring here, but I am going to shut
- 24:46Speaker 1: out the Orioles of pitching really quickly because they stepped
- 24:49Speaker 1: up in a big way on Sunday and you know,
- 24:52Speaker 1: they shut down some really hot bats of late, and yeah,
- 24:57Speaker 1: I just wanted to shout out the Orioles pitching for
- 24:59Speaker 1: that really quickly. Yeah, then that's done with the Orioles,
- 25:03Speaker 1: revitalizing the rivalry that maybe he has been lacking a
- 25:06Speaker 1: little bit and the past few years recently, but you
- 25:09Speaker 1: certainly felt that energy at the ballpark this weekend.
- 25:13Speaker 3: The Nats fans.
- 25:14Speaker 1: Wasn't a take back the Park campaign from twenty twelve,
- 25:17Speaker 1: but it was definitely you know, get fans in here.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Where the colors that the guys are wearing down on
- 25:22Speaker 1: the field. The fans were asked to color coordinate with
- 25:25Speaker 1: the different uniforms that the Nats had going on, and
- 25:28Speaker 1: overall just looked like a bustling weekend at the ballpark.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I was jealous I couldn't be there. You know, Beltway
- 25:34Speaker 1: Beltway battle is always a good one.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt different in there, and that again, I
- 25:41Speaker 2: don't blame Nationals fans who don't show up to games
- 25:44Speaker 2: all the time. I get the on field products the
- 25:47Speaker 2: past few years hasn't been great. But regardless of where
- 25:52Speaker 2: the blame wise or you know, any of those discussions
- 25:56Speaker 2: that you know you want to get into or don't like,
- 26:00Speaker 2: the place feels different when it's full, like day game,
- 26:04Speaker 2: night game, doesn't matter. It's a really cool environment when
- 26:09Speaker 2: they pack forty thousand people in there. Again, the players
- 26:13Speaker 2: feed off it to the extent that any baseball player
- 26:15Speaker 2: does feed off it, and they really appreciate when fans
- 26:18Speaker 2: do show up. So yeah, they still have one of
- 26:21Speaker 2: the lower attendance numbers in baseball even after this series.
- 26:25Speaker 2: We'll see what happens during the Mets series too. That's
- 26:27Speaker 2: always an interesting one. But yeah, it was for three days,
- 26:31Speaker 2: very cool to see people show up.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not the first time in a long time,
- 26:36Speaker 1: but you know, for an entire weekend, it just felt
- 26:39Speaker 1: like the ballpark everyone was extremely invested in the game
- 26:43Speaker 1: and how the team is playing on the field, which
- 26:46Speaker 1: was just exciting. It was really exciting to watch. You
- 26:48Speaker 1: take a look at the upcoming schedule. If you're still
- 26:51Speaker 1: in the DC area or around the ballpark, you can
- 26:53Speaker 1: still catch the Mets in town before the Nats hit
- 26:56Speaker 1: the road and take off for Atlanta and then Cleveland.
- 26:59Speaker 1: As we mentioned a few shows ago, I believe it's
- 27:01Speaker 1: a seventeen game stretch, a sixteen game stretch.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Not really sixteen in a row. Sixteen in a row.
- 27:07Speaker 1: So a grueling stretch of baseball here, but they have
- 27:11Speaker 1: met it in the face with a couple of series
- 27:13Speaker 1: wins already. Not too shabby. This time, I want to
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- 27:46Speaker 1: home runs. So we got Jake Irvin on the bump
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- 27:57Speaker 1: somebody here who is going to take him deep.
- 27:59Speaker 3: Spence, do you have any thoughts?
- 28:02Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I'd never want to give out advice
- 28:04Speaker 2: per se. But if I'm going based on what I think,
- 28:09Speaker 2: who's hot, who succeeds against right handed hitters, who has
- 28:14Speaker 2: a risk issue right now and somehow is still hitting
- 28:17Speaker 2: through it, I would pick Luis Garcia Junior. He's someone
- 28:21Speaker 2: where can it feels like every at bad or so
- 28:23Speaker 2: he's shaking his wrist after a swing and just waiting
- 28:27Speaker 2: for the pain to go away, and then once the
- 28:29Speaker 2: pain goes away, he gets some big hit. He got
- 28:31Speaker 2: a hit off Rico Garcia, who had given up one
- 28:34Speaker 2: hit all season. Again, we saw him hit some homers
- 28:37Speaker 2: recently right after doing that, So yeah, I think he's
- 28:40Speaker 2: due for a big game. And yeah, we'll see if
- 28:43Speaker 2: it happens, but man, he's been impressive as of late.
- 28:48Speaker 3: I like that pick. That's a really good pick.
- 28:50Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna go with Dylan Lyle because
- 28:53Speaker 1: why not, you know, the home run guy for in
- 28:55Speaker 1: his last four games. Let's make it five tonight. Let's
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- 29:37Speaker 1: All right, Spencer, we're back, just as we were talking
- 29:39Speaker 1: before the break there, Mets come to town and give
- 29:42Speaker 1: you a look at the National leaguee's standings one more time.
- 29:45Speaker 1: The Mets sitting at the bottom, but of course they
- 29:47Speaker 1: are looking to scrape out of a cellar there at
- 29:48Speaker 1: twenty and twenty six. They're gonna avoid the nineteen and
- 29:51Speaker 1: thirty one clip, so who knows, maybe they can find
- 29:53Speaker 1: themselves back in the playoff picture come season's end. But
- 29:57Speaker 1: Christian Scott will get the rock for them later on.
- 29:59Speaker 1: He has no decision yet this season, a three four
- 30:02Speaker 1: five R, but he's a pretty sharp. Last time out
- 30:04Speaker 1: chasing Detroit Tigers, saw the lineup went four and two thirds,
- 30:08Speaker 1: allowing two earned runs.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Over the outing.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Jake Irvin, he had to gut through his last outing
- 30:13Speaker 1: in Cincinnati was a win for the Nationals, though he
- 30:16Speaker 1: was not the recipient of the win. But he's been
- 30:18Speaker 1: one and four with a five to nine to one
- 30:21Speaker 1: er this season. So we've talked about Jake a lot
- 30:24Speaker 1: on this show before, Spencer, but you know what's going
- 30:27Speaker 1: to be key for him getting through the lineup the
- 30:29Speaker 1: first time, but also the second and the third time
- 30:31Speaker 1: and hopefully giving the Nationals some innings tonight as there
- 30:34Speaker 1: right in the midst of a stretch here with not
- 30:36Speaker 1: a lot of off days.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Yeah, again, it's almost as if Jake needs to both
- 30:41Speaker 2: recognize that he needs to throw a lot of innings
- 30:44Speaker 2: and pitch as though he's just going from one batter
- 30:47Speaker 2: the next. I think you see Jake run into trouble
- 30:49Speaker 2: when he tries to just get the ball, throw the
- 30:54Speaker 2: ball for as long as he can and succeeds when
- 30:56Speaker 2: he pitches with intent, when he attacks the zone with
- 31:00Speaker 2: out throwing too many, too many pitches over the heart
- 31:03Speaker 2: of the plate. So yeah, I'm looking at the intense
- 31:06Speaker 2: and night I'm also looking at the velocity and like,
- 31:08Speaker 2: maybe that's just the new brain, new era part of me,
- 31:12Speaker 2: But Jake pitch is better when he throws harder, and
- 31:15Speaker 2: the velocity dipped off a pretty significant amount towards the
- 31:18Speaker 2: end of last start. When that happens in back to
- 31:22Speaker 2: back starts, you start to worry, both mechanically and from
- 31:26Speaker 2: a standpoint of injuries, which, again, everything since has suggested
- 31:33Speaker 2: that he's fine. But if it happens in back to
- 31:36Speaker 2: back starts, I'm definitely keeping a close eye on it
- 31:38Speaker 2: because you don't want to see Jake go down and
- 31:40Speaker 2: you don't want to see him struggle with that. So
- 31:42Speaker 2: that's what I'm keeping an eye on. And there's a
- 31:45Speaker 2: there's a lot of good matchups ahead for the series,
- 31:47Speaker 2: so it should be a fun one. Yeah.
- 31:50Speaker 1: That reminds me like one of the first questions I
- 31:52Speaker 1: had written down in my notes, which are long gone
- 31:55Speaker 1: by now, but is cav gonna be all right? He
- 31:58Speaker 1: really wore a foul tip that in yesterday's game. For
- 32:01Speaker 1: those of you that weren't watching but stayed in for
- 32:03Speaker 1: the rest of the game, I kind of anticipate that
- 32:05Speaker 1: this is gonna he can't be in the lineup later today.
- 32:08Speaker 1: I feel like he's earned a day off, especially with
- 32:10Speaker 1: the offensive production over the weekend.
- 32:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 32:13Speaker 2: I mean he has gotten hit so many times over
- 32:17Speaker 2: the last few years, and again you had the concussion
- 32:19Speaker 2: problem last year, which is obviously serious, but something like that. Again,
- 32:23Speaker 2: if he's out of the lineup, it probably isn't because
- 32:26Speaker 2: of that. Like the trainers didn't even come out yesterday
- 32:30Speaker 2: when he got hit.
- 32:32Speaker 1: I think that they tried to give him a minute.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Everyone on the field tried to give him a second.
- 32:36Speaker 3: I was.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was a tough, Yeah, tough one to watch,
- 32:41Speaker 2: but again that feels like we get that every three
- 32:43Speaker 2: days with Kbert Millis too, has you know, played through
- 32:48Speaker 2: some injury which is been tough. He's got a he's
- 32:51Speaker 2: got a finger that looks like you know, I won't
- 32:54Speaker 2: say what it looks like, but it does not look good.
- 32:57Speaker 2: And so again you got you got you guys really
- 33:00Speaker 2: gritting it out back there. So I don't think you're
- 33:04Speaker 2: ever going into a game with the catchers one hundred
- 33:07Speaker 2: percent healthy, but if they're ready to go, they're ready
- 33:10Speaker 2: to go.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Yeah, got to give Drew some credit as well. Thank
- 33:13Speaker 1: your catchers. If you're a pitcher out there, youth baseball
- 33:16Speaker 1: pitcher coming up and high.
- 33:18Speaker 3: School ball, you know they're out there.
- 33:20Speaker 1: You know. I remember Liam used to do a lot
- 33:22Speaker 1: of catching growing up. For those of you that know
- 33:24Speaker 1: me from the bat Boys, Lian did a lot of catching.
- 33:26Speaker 1: So make sure to thank your catchers. But yeah, one
- 33:29Speaker 1: more look at the National LEAGUEE standings for you, Nationals
- 33:32Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four, the Mets twenty and twenty
- 33:35Speaker 1: six as they come to town later today for a
- 33:37Speaker 1: four game set. So this is going to be interesting,
- 33:41Speaker 1: It's going to be exciting. Stay tuned for Wednesday's episode,
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