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The Strange Arrangement That Kept Andrew and Sarah Ferguson Tied Together · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. When it comes to covering Prince Andrew and
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  Speaker 1: his nonsense with Jeffrey Epstein, nobody's done it better than
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Lowney and in his book that came out in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five entitled He Lays Waste to Prince Andrew
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  Speaker 1: and Prince Andrew's narrative and really shines a light on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of alleged corruption. And it's not just stuff
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein. I mean, this guy had deals all over
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  Speaker 1: the world with a whole lot of undesirable people, and
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  Speaker 1: now that he's being investigated, I would think that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to dig deep into all of that. And if
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  Speaker 1: they do dig deep, like I think they're going to,
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  Speaker 1: then they're going to find out that Andrew Lownie has
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  Speaker 1: been telling the truth. Today's article is from Fox News
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  Speaker 1: and the headline Former Prince Andrew, Sarah Ferguson dubbed Royal
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  Speaker 1: Families Bonnie and Clyde as Epstein fallout grows. This article
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  Speaker 1: was authored by Stephanie Alasco. Former Prince Andrew and Sarah
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson were once coined the happiest divorced couple, but one
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  Speaker 1: royal author said they're more like Bonnie and Clyde, found
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  Speaker 1: by scandal, chaos and NonStop drama. Well, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about Bonnie and Clyde. More like dumb and dumber. I
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  Speaker 1: think that would be a lot more fitting. But I
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  Speaker 1: guess we'll go with Bonnie and Clyde. Andrew Lowney's extended
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  Speaker 1: version of his twenty twenty five book, entitled Revisits Andrew
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  Speaker 1: and Sarah's decades long relationship as scrutiny surrounding Andrew's ties
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  Speaker 1: to Epstein continues generating headlines in Britain and abroad, and
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  Speaker 1: we know it's just getting started over in the UK
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  Speaker 1: and according to authorities, it's going to be a lengthy process.
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  Speaker 1: But I think when all the said and done, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have all the evidence they need to pursue
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  Speaker 1: charges against Prince Andrew. Will they do it? That's the
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  Speaker 1: million dollar question. Fox News Digital reached out to the
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  Speaker 1: former couple for comment about Lownie's book and his claims.
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  Speaker 1: A spokesperson for Buckingham Palace previously told Fox News Digital
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  Speaker 1: that it does not comment on books. It doesn't comment
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  Speaker 1: on much to tell you the truth. The Palace had
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  Speaker 1: nothing to say about Jeffrey Epstein for years, and that's
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  Speaker 1: part of the big criticism about the Queen and about
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  Speaker 1: how the monarchy handled Prince Andrew and the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.
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  Speaker 1: And that's led to the situation that we see now.
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  Speaker 1: You can only kick the can down the road for
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  Speaker 1: so long, because at some point all of us sit
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  Speaker 1: down at the table for a banquet of consequences. The
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  Speaker 1: reason that they stay together is a professional business relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Lownie Toll Fox News Digital I described them as Bonnie
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  Speaker 1: and Clyde. He was their calling card for money, and
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe he had a sentimental loyalty to her. She,
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  Speaker 1: of course, was one of the last people to remain
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  Speaker 1: loyal to him and supportive of him, and I think
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  Speaker 1: he felt grateful for that. Probably as vile as the
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  Speaker 1: both of them are, they're human beings, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that Prince Andrew had a lot of comfort with Fergie,
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  Speaker 1: specially considering she was willing to accept his disgustingness, his proclivities,
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  Speaker 1: his willingness to be with people like Epstein. Not every
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  Speaker 1: woman's going to accept that, But with Fergie, the juice
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  Speaker 1: was worth the squeeze, and as long as she was
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  Speaker 1: able to maintain that lifestyle she had, she was able
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  Speaker 1: to do what she wanted to do whenever she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do it, then so be it. Who cares if
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  Speaker 1: people were hurt? Who cares if girls were abused? What
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  Speaker 1: does that matter to Prince Andrew and Fergy? Obviously it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's sort of a playboy, but he also
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  Speaker 1: likes the comfort of being a married man with the family,
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  Speaker 1: Lownie said, and so he's got the best of both worlds,
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  Speaker 1: at least the impression that they were a happy family
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  Speaker 1: while still being totally independent and look great, whatever kind
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  Speaker 1: of dynamic. A family wants to have a man and
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  Speaker 1: a woman in their relationship. As long as nobody is
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  Speaker 1: getting hurt, it's really nobody's business. And if Fergie and
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  Speaker 1: Prince Andrew wanted to have an open relationship or whatever
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  Speaker 1: the fuck they had going on, who cares. That's not
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  Speaker 1: what the beef is. The beef is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they spend time with Epstein, They enabled Epstein, and Prince Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: according to multiple reports, took part in the abuse. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the problem, not that they have a weird relationship,
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  Speaker 1: not that they might have an open relationship or that
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  Speaker 1: they might, you know, be into whatever. Who cares. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's what the vast majority of people are
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  Speaker 1: worried about. I think most people are upset that a
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  Speaker 1: he lied about his relationship with Epstein, B was involved
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein so intimately, and c that he continues to
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  Speaker 1: lie about it. I think those are Prince Andrew's biggest problems.
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  Speaker 1: Despite years of controversy, Andrew and Sarah have frequently presented
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  Speaker 1: themselves publicly as a close knit family focused on co
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  Speaker 1: parenting their daughters, Princess Beatrice and Prince Eugenie. And look,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't really been too critical of Andrew's daughters, but
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Lowney, he has other opinions, and he thinks that
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  Speaker 1: they're part of the grift. He thinks that they've benefited
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  Speaker 1: from the whole entire grift that Andrew and Sarah Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: have been running for all these years. And he makes
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  Speaker 1: a compelling case. Sarah became Duchess New York when she
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  Speaker 1: married what many described as Queen Elizabeth the Second's favorite
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  Speaker 1: son in nineteen eighty six. However, happily ever after wasn't
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  Speaker 1: to be. Over the years, marriage was dogged by tabloid
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  Speaker 1: rumors of extramarital relationships. And look, I bet you they
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  Speaker 1: had a agreement. But the problem was that the public
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  Speaker 1: found out. And once the public found out, they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: come out and say, oh, well, you know, we're swingers.
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  Speaker 1: We liked you know, have different partners every now and again.
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  Speaker 1: They can't come out and say that, right, But I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure that that's what they were. They had one
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  Speaker 1: of those arrangement type of marriages. But when you're in
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  Speaker 1: the public eye like Andrew, is not really something that
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  Speaker 1: is going to go over well if it's exposed. Andrew
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  Speaker 1: earned the nickname Air Miles Andy, Playboy Prince and Randy Andy,
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  Speaker 1: and the Prince of Ponkasses, and the Joe Exotic of
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  Speaker 1: the Windsor family for his lavish lifestyle and womanizing reputation. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah was romantically linked to Texas oil man Steve Wyatt,
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  Speaker 1: which Vanity Pharaoh reported was an open secret in royal circles.
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  Speaker 1: There was also Towgate in nineteen ninety two, when The
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  Speaker 1: Daily Mirror published photos of a topless duchess with John Bryan,
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  Speaker 1: another businessman from Texas while vacationing in the South of France.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew and Sarah were officially divorced in nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing like the Duchess of York getting her little piggy
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  Speaker 1: sucked by somebody that's not her husband. Huh. So much
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  Speaker 1: for keeping things on the hush hush. The relationship between
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  Speaker 1: the former couple didn't end there. Despite Sarah's numerous commercial ventures,
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  Speaker 1: she indirects been continued living together. And look, let's not
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  Speaker 1: act like Andrew wasn't up to no good. Bro was
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  Speaker 1: He just wasn't getting called out at the time. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't getting caught. But let's not act like Prince Andrew
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  Speaker 1: wasn't out up to no good himself. He most certainly was.
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  Speaker 1: They lived in a very big house, so they were
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  Speaker 1: at opposite ends. Lowney said, there were more business partners
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  Speaker 1: than a couple. I think a lot of the romance
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  Speaker 1: had gone. They were having affairs even during the marriage,
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  Speaker 1: both of them, so I don't think there was a
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  Speaker 1: huge sense of shall we say, fidelity there, Lowney alleged,
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was an agreement. I think they
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  Speaker 1: agreed that they were going to have an open relationship
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  Speaker 1: but part of that is not doing it in the public,
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  Speaker 1: and I would think that getting your toes sucked on
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  Speaker 1: a beach probably not the best idea if you're looking
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  Speaker 1: to keep this private. She hung in there because she's
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  Speaker 1: a member of the royal family and that was her
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  Speaker 1: calling card for business, he claimed. So it was just
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  Speaker 1: a myth that they projected. Lowney said that he was
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  Speaker 1: not surprised by reports that Andrew allowed Sarah to entertain
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  Speaker 1: alleged romantic partners in their shared home even after they
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  Speaker 1: called it quits. And when you hear stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard not to believe the stories about them having
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  Speaker 1: an open relationship because they were obviously seeing other people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think that's in dispute. He was much
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  Speaker 1: more generous when it came to her having her own relationships,
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  Speaker 1: he claimed. Lownie, who has written extensively about the Royal family,
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  Speaker 1: said that he believes Andrew relied heavily on Sarah's loyalty
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  Speaker 1: during periods of public backlash. Oh, he most certainly did.
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  Speaker 1: They were two peas in a pod, and they were
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  Speaker 1: men for each other. He had other preoccupations, said Lownee. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: she often went off and stayed with boyfriends. Lowney claimed.
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  Speaker 1: Over time, the eyebrow raising arrangement between the exes became
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  Speaker 1: increasingly controversial. Sarah endured recurring financial scandals, including dead issues
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  Speaker 1: and the twenty ten under a cover cash for access
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  Speaker 1: sting in which he appeared to offer access to Andrew
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  Speaker 1: in exchange for money. Andrew faced criticism over lavish, tax
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  Speaker 1: payer funded travel, questionable business associates, and his reputation as
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  Speaker 1: a royal playboy. All of that was well earned. And
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt that Fergie was trying to trade access
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  Speaker 1: for dough. But because she's Fergie, nothing ever happened. And
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the big problems, right These people were
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  Speaker 1: allowed to get away with so much for so long
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  Speaker 1: that they thought that the bill was never going to
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  Speaker 1: come do. But that bill has come and do now,
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  Speaker 1: and Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson aren't going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to dine and dash this time. There's bouncers at
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  Speaker 1: the door, and those bouncers are you. Rather than distancing
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  Speaker 1: themselves from each other as scandals mounted, they remain publicly
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  Speaker 1: loyal and closely connected, creating the perception that there were
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  Speaker 1: still a united royal family. Well, I guess I mean
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  Speaker 1: from the outside looking in. But people in the know,
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  Speaker 1: they understood what was going on, understood that the relationship
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  Speaker 1: was transactional. The reason that Fergie continued to live with
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  Speaker 1: Andrew was because she moved back in after she ran
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  Speaker 1: up a huge number of debts renting very expensive properties,
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  Speaker 1: Lowney said, And I think they felt the solution was
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  Speaker 1: that if she moved in with them, that would solve
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  Speaker 1: the problem. He was away a lot, and she was
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  Speaker 1: away a lot promoting weight watchers and wedgewood in the States.
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  Speaker 1: He was on naval bases her ships, so it made
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  Speaker 1: sense for them to live together. I mean, God bless,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think i'd want to live with my
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  Speaker 1: ex wife. There's a reason she's your ex wife, right,
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  Speaker 1: So the whole arrangement was always weird to me. But again,
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  Speaker 1: I try not to judge people's personal life. Do whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want. I don't care. It doesn't affect me. I
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  Speaker 1: have two rules. Don't bother me, and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to pay for it. Sarah previously described Andrew publicly as
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  Speaker 1: one of her closest confidants and has insisted their post
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  Speaker 1: divorce relationship remain rooted in friendship and family. It's all transactional. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that for a second. Now. I know
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  Speaker 1: they have daughters and stuff like that, but they're grown up.
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  Speaker 1: Fergie stayed with them because it was beneficial to her
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  Speaker 1: to stay with them. That's why she was there. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: And Andrew, for his part, well, he knew that Fergie
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  Speaker 1: was down, knew that he can count on her, and
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  Speaker 1: he also knew that she was as big of a
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  Speaker 1: grifter as he was. Perfect relationship. While Prince Philip and
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  Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth the Second were reportedly opposed to the former
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  Speaker 1: couple continuing to live together, Lowney claimed that Sarah persuaded
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  Speaker 1: Andrew that maintaining the arrangement would benefit their two daughters
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  Speaker 1: by ensuring both parents remain closely involved in their lives.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Queen was keen that Sarah Andrew were
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  Speaker 1: happy for the sake of her grandchildren. Lowney said she
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  Speaker 1: was the one who encouraged them to divorce, saying it
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  Speaker 1: look terrible that they were having these affairs in public.
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  Speaker 1: She kind of forced it on them. I think she
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  Speaker 1: was fond of Sarah, but she had no illusions about
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  Speaker 1: what she was like. Prince Philip certainly had no illusions. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not really. The biggest fan of good old Fergie Sarah Ferguson,
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  Speaker 1: and that was well Documentedlowney noted that while the late
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  Speaker 1: Queen may not have approved of some of the women
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  Speaker 1: Andrew was linked to, he did not believe that it
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  Speaker 1: necessarily meant she wanted him to reunite with Sarah, but
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  Speaker 1: their connection to Jeffrey Epstein, an American financier, pedophile, and
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  Speaker 1: convicted sex offender, ultimately eclipsed every scandal that came before it. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: considering Andrew and his part and his alleged role, I
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  Speaker 1: would say so. On February nineteenth, his sixty sixth birthday,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office
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  Speaker 1: during an inquiry linked to his Epstein ties. After being
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  Speaker 1: held for eleven hours, Thames Valley Police confirmed the Fox
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  Speaker 1: News Digital that he had been released. Andrew has repeatedly
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  Speaker 1: denied wrongdoing related to Ebstein and has not been criminally
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  Speaker 1: charged in connection to the case. Well, not yet, but
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  Speaker 1: I I think it's certainly on the horizon. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the charges will be, but I think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to get charged with something. Six companies link to
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  Speaker 1: Sarah were shut down amid renewed attention surrounding her past
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  Speaker 1: ties to Ebstein. It's understood that no creditors were owed money,
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  Speaker 1: at least this time around. Huh remember the loan she
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  Speaker 1: had to get from Epstein to pay the salary of
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  Speaker 1: her people. An email from Sarah about desperately needing money
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  Speaker 1: surfaced after the Department of Justice released more than three
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  Speaker 1: million records related to Epstein, including his personal emails. Inclusion
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  Speaker 1: in the files does not necessarily imply wrongdoing, well, no,
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  Speaker 1: but the emails they sure do. Like Andrew, Sarah claimed
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  Speaker 1: that she cut off all contact with Epstein. Fox News
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  Speaker 1: Digital previously reached out to a representative for comment about
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  Speaker 1: the DOJ's release. Epstein died in custody in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts, who said she was trafficked by Epstein, accused
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  Speaker 1: Andrew of sexually abusing her when she was seventeen. The
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  Speaker 1: American woman filed a civil lawsuit alleging that she was
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  Speaker 1: forced to have sex with the disgraced duke three times.
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  Speaker 1: The case was settled out of court in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew has consistently denied Robert's allegations and said he had
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  Speaker 1: no recollection of meeting her. The settlement agreement stated it
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  Speaker 1: was not an admission of liability. No, no, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just pay you seventeen million dollars because I'm innocent.
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  Speaker 1: The forty one year old died in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Her a memoir that was published in October reiterated her claims.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew announced in October that he was giving up his
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  Speaker 1: royal titles, and the Palace confirmed later that month that
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  Speaker 1: King Charles the Third had initiated a formal process to
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  Speaker 1: remove the style, titles and honors of Prince Andrew. The
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  Speaker 1: decision followed Andrew's initial step back from public life in
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, after his BBC interview in which he discussed
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  Speaker 1: his relationship with Epstein. Onb third, Andrew vacated Royal Lodge
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  Speaker 1: three months after the King ordered him to surrender his lease.
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  Speaker 1: And he had to throw a tantrum about that too.
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  Speaker 1: Everything about this dude screams entitled everything. A spokesperson for
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  Speaker 1: Sarah previously told The Guardian the Duchess spoke of her
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  Speaker 1: regret about her association with Epstein many years ago, and
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  Speaker 1: as they have always been her first thoughts or with
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  Speaker 1: his victims. Oh isn't that nice? A whole lot of talk,
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  Speaker 1: no action. Has Fergie reached out to any of Epstein's survivors. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: she hasn't got it. It's a waiting game at the moment,
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  Speaker 1: Lowney said, I think Andrew may well end up in
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East. That would solve a lot of problems
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  Speaker 1: for the Royal family, keep the story under wraps and
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  Speaker 1: get them away from public view. And we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: that before. Very possible if Andrew goes on the run
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  Speaker 1: or decides to leave, the Middle East is a very
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  Speaker 1: likely place. Lowney speculated about what Sarah's future relationship with
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  Speaker 1: the Royal Family could look like financially. Before the Epstein fallout,
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  Speaker 1: friends and insiders believed the former couple considered remarrying. Oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: imagine that. Talk about a gigantic shit show. What they
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  Speaker 1: should do is reach out to like one of the
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  Speaker 1: stations and have a reality TV show that seems fitting
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  Speaker 1: for them. Sarah Ferguson is clearly not going to make
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  Speaker 1: money and the way she did before, so it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a question of how she supports herself. She'll
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  Speaker 1: eventually be paid off by the royal family with some
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  Speaker 1: sort of pension to keep her quiet. Will she find
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  Speaker 1: another rich benefactor or husband? She's no longer the figure
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  Speaker 1: she once was. I mean that's true. Good luck finding
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  Speaker 1: a new dude like Who the hell would want to
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  Speaker 1: deal with that? Maybe somebody in a country where there's
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  Speaker 1: not as much publicity, but the UK America, I highly
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  Speaker 1: doubt it. All Right, folks, that's going to do it
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