Latest / This Is My Circus / 🎪 Episode 88: Squatters, Sovereign Citizens, Creepy Reincarnation & The Deer That Won’t Leave
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- 0:00I'm Stephanie.
- 0:00I'm Meredith.
- 0:01And welcome to This Is My Circus.
- 0:02Hey, girl.
- 0:03Hey.
- 0:03Hey., Can I just tell you...
- 0:05I, I don't know why this just popped in my head right now.
- 0:07I have been battling a deer all week.
- 0:10A deer?
- 0:11A deer.
- 0:11Like- Just one.
- 0:12What do you mean by battling?
- 0:14Okay, so-'Cause I'm picturing you with, like, a sword Well, I mean, I feel like it might come to that level.
- 0:20So, you know, animal lover.
- 0:21Mm-hmm.
- 0:21I love all the animals.
- 0:22I wanna be Snow White and have, like, all the birds on my shoulders and stuff.
- 0:26And we have two dogs at home, Louie and Emmy.
- 0:31Louie can run around.
- 0:32He's terrified of everything.
- 0:34We don't have to tie him down when he's outside or anything.
- 0:36He's fine.
- 0:36Mm-hmm.
- 0:37He'll be fine.
- 0:37If I'm out with Emmy, and she's with me, she's fine.
- 0:41But if she's not on a rope, like a run, she will run away.
- 0:45Mm.
- 0:45She's part hound.
- 0:46She's gonna track things.
- 0:47She'll eventually come back, but I don't want her to get hurt while she's- Right So the other night, in the middle of the night, like they do, they decided they wanted to go out.
- 0:55Okay, cool, no problem.
- 0:56Let'em out.
- 0:57I'm like getting some water, using the bathroom, whatever, and they're not in yet.
- 1:00Usually it's like by the time I get do that- Mm-hmm you know, they're coming.
- 1:04I'm like,"What in the world?
- 1:05There's a deer in our yard." Mm-hmm.
- 1:06And it's just like standing there close to the...
- 1:09They're not barking.
- 1:11They're not really even interacting.
- 1:13They're just like all hanging out in the same general area, and I'm like,"Okay, whatever." So I'm kind of yelling at it like,"Go away," you know, trying to get it to go so the dogs will come in.
- 1:21I'm, I'm saying,"You want a treat?" I'm saying all the magic words.
- 1:24Nothing's happening, so I'm like,"I gotta walk out there and try to make this deer go away so the dogs will come in." I got like within 10 feet of that deer, and it was just like looking at me chewing.
- 1:34You're like Snow White.
- 1:35Pretty much.
- 1:36Pretty much I am now.
- 1:37So that happened.
- 1:39Next night, same thing happened.
- 1:41It won't go away, Is it like a full deer, or is it like a baby?
- 1:44It, I think it's like a teenager.
- 1:45Okay.
- 1:45Like, it doesn't look...
- 1:48I don't think she's very responsible, if she is grown.
- 1:50Mm-hmm.
- 1:53But it, it is not huge, so, but it doesn't have spots.
- 1:56But I'm like running at this deer like,"Ma," making myself like as big as possible, like trying to make it go away.
- 2:02Happened in the middle of the day the other day.
- 2:04You know, deer are usually like evening or like morning.
- 2:06Middle of the day, just out there- Chilling and, and right.
- 2:09And the dogs are out there just having fun, and Louie's an idiot.
- 2:13They're like,"New bestie." They do, and Louie's like bouncing around the deer like,"Look what I...
- 2:17Look at my new friend, Mom." And Emmy's rope it's slack.
- 2:20Like, she's not like pulling- Mm trying to get to the deer.
- 2:23They're just being friends, and I do my,"Ma" And it runs like 10 feet, but it's not like a sprint.
- 2:29It's like that bouncy like- Mm"Come chase me." I'm like,"Oh, my God." And I, I would love a pet deer, but I need it to stop eating my plants.
- 2:38That is my battle.
- 2:39So I might have a sword one day and just wave it around and scare the deer.
- 2:43I don't know, I don't know what to do with this thing.
- 2:45A water gun?
- 2:46Oh.
- 2:47It, with my luck, it would like it and be like,"Oh, this is fun." Yeah.
- 2:51It'll certainly come back.
- 2:52Like a dog with a hose, yeah.
- 2:53Mm-hmm That has just been so crazy to me.
- 2:56Why won't this deer just go away?
- 2:57Yeah.
- 2:58and stop eating my hosta.
- 3:00I've even put, I've like done some research on like put some like cinnamon and some- Mm-hmm our new problems.
- 3:05Yeah.
- 3:07Our new problems.
- 3:08So that has been, you know, keeping me up in the night.
- 3:10Yeah.
- 3:11When I let the dogs out, it's like a big, a big production now.
- 3:14Yeah.
- 3:15And Emmy did it last night, let her out.
- 3:17Well, I guess I didn't clip her thing tight.
- 3:19She got off, and again, she'll come back.
- 3:21So she eventually came back, breathing, panting, heavy.
- 3:25It was probably about 20 minutes later that I'm up in the middle of the night just waiting on her to get back.
- 3:28Mm-hmm.
- 3:28And, limping,'cause she's not a baby anymore.
- 3:31Yeah.
- 3:31She's not a pup.
- 3:32So, I mean, she's sore today.
- 3:33She's feeling it, and she's looking at me like,"I know it was stupid, but I promise you I'm gonna do it again." It was, that was worth it.
- 3:39It was worth it.
- 3:40It was worth it, so yeah.
- 3:41Mm-hmm.
- 3:42A- again, white woman suburbia.
- 3:47What have you been doing?
- 3:48Nothing really.
- 3:49Yeah.
- 3:50Mm-mm.
- 3:51No, I took Clifford to the park for the first time.
- 3:53How did he do?
- 3:54He did pretty good.
- 3:55I brought, his bag of treats that's how we're training him.
- 3:57Training, yep.
- 3:57Is, he's very food focused.
- 3:59And- I know.
- 4:02So, he wouldn't even look at the treats.
- 4:03He was just so excited to, have new things to sniff and- Uh-huh.
- 4:06Any time, he saw a person he was like,"Oh, they're gonna wanna pet me." Mm-hmm.
- 4:09And I'm like,"No, not everybody likes dogs." Mm-hmm.
- 4:12"Leave him alone." Well, and it's so hard when you're, when you're training them and you take them out in public.
- 4:15And, some people that are dog people know, they're working with them.
- 4:18I don't need to approach, or I don't approach like,"Hey." You know, just you have to- Mm-hmm help them learn.
- 4:24Yeah.
- 4:25And sometimes people are just so,"Oh, a baby.
- 4:27Can I pet your dog?" Yeah.
- 4:28And of course Clifford's like,"Pet me." Mm-hmm.
- 4:31"Yes." Yes.
- 4:32"Everywhere." Mm-hmm.
- 4:33"Pet me everywhere." Yeah.
- 4:35Have you been watching any of the, probably not, FIFA?
- 4:38Mm-mm, yeah.
- 4:39But I am, like you said, last week, all the people, from all over the world- Loving- loving America It is great, isn't it?
- 4:45Yeah.
- 4:46It is so great.
- 4:47So I do have some Freddy updates.
- 4:49Okay.
- 4:49We, I touched on Freddy last week.
- 4:51He's the dude from Germany who's here, who kinda started this Loving America trend.
- 4:57Well, our good friends in the UK- Yes the Brits in the US.
- 5:01Yes.
- 5:01Josh, and I always forget the other one's name.
- 5:03Yeah.
- 5:03Yeah.
- 5:03But they, they really started the trend.
- 5:05But- They did.
- 5:05They did.
- 5:05And they, actually just made a post, uh, saying, like, we are so excited that- That's all- everybody else is seeing this." Yes.
- 5:12I love it.
- 5:13Okay, so- He is, this Freddy dude, we talked last week, you know, Waffle House, Buc-ee's, he's into all the things.
- 5:20College football stadiums, as big as they are, apparently blew him away.
- 5:24Mm-hmm.
- 5:24He was like,"This is not professional." Crazy.
- 5:26Mm-hmm.
- 5:27Because he was at the big ones.
- 5:28Yeah.
- 5:28You know, LSU and different ones like that.
- 5:30Well, apparently he found a song he really liked called Choosing Texas by Ella Langley- Okay while he was here.
- 5:37Well, he keep posting about the song and doing the things.
- 5:40Okay, sorry, squirrel.
- 5:42Mm-hmm.
- 5:42Forrest Gump, where things just, like, fall in his lap.
- 5:44Yeah.
- 5:45Okay, so he's posting about Ella Langley.
- 5:47Her people find out.
- 5:48They invite him to a concert.
- 5:49He does the backstage.
- 5:50He does the, he meets Ella Langley, right?
- 5:53Photos with her, the whole thing.
- 5:55He's in Houston and he's posting about how great Houston is.
- 5:58JJ Watt gets a hold of it.
- 6:00JJ Watt puts him up in this amazing hotel.
- 6:03I can't even find, it says$150,000 a night, which, so I'm thinking it's the 22,000 square foot penthouse that they have.
- 6:12You can't even look at it online though because it's, like, call to discuss this pretty much.
- 6:18It's at the, Post Oak Hotel.
- 6:21So JJ Watt puts him up there.
- 6:22Of course, gives him the swag, the signed jersey and- Mm-hmm and all the things.
- 6:26he was, been on a tour of NASA.
- 6:28Oh.
- 6:28NASA was like,"Hey, come look and see what's going on with us." So of course, you know, Freddy's eating this up.
- 6:34They called, the space station or something and he's talking to people in space.
- 6:38It's crazy.
- 6:38He was invited to an Astros game, sat right behind the plate.
- 6:42Ended up meeting the mayor, um- uh, of Houston.
- 6:46I know, just so random, right?
- 6:47The police station in Houston invited him to a barbecue.
- 6:50Oh.
- 6:51And I don't mean a barbecue like a cookout, I mean barbecue like we eat it down here- Yeah like shredded pork.
- 6:55Right.
- 6:56So, he said it's like a movie.
- 6:58He's like,"These guys look like they should be in a movie about Texas police force," basically maybe we need to take a trip to, Houston.
- 7:05Is it like attractive actors that are playing cops?
- 7:08Like, you know, that's a good point.
- 7:09I need details, Freddy the, uh, Freddy needs to report back.
- 7:13I didn't really- zoom in.
- 7:13Oh.
- 7:13It was looking, it was like a big conference table.
- 7:16I was looking- Oh, well we need to zoom.
- 7:17We'll, we'll zoom.
- 7:18I'll, I'll find the picture again in a second.
- 7:19So then he's trying to fly from, from Houston to wherever he's going next, and I guess bad weather in Houston, his flights get canceled.
- 7:26Everybody's like fighting to get this kid where he wants to go.
- 7:29JJ Watt's involved again, trying to...
- 7:32Private planes are being offered to this dude.
- 7:34So he's finally in Canada now.
- 7:36He got there, I guess, through all these hookups, American Airlines, I don't know.
- 7:40He's in Canada, and his last tweet late last night, this morning, was like,"Goodbye for now.
- 7:47I'll see you soon, my dear friend," or something like that.
- 7:49Okay.
- 7:50I love it.
- 7:50But pretty dramatic.
- 7:51I, yeah, I don't know if he's gonna get the same hospitality in Canada.
- 7:54Well, I'm like, okay, are they gonna try to outdo us?
- 7:57Probably.
- 7:57Like, are they...
- 7:58Yeah.
- 7:59I don't, I don't- They're known to be friendly anyway.
- 8:01We had to overcompensate because- Uh-huh America is- Uh-huh known to not be friendly To not be friendly.
- 8:06So I feel like- We have gone all out We have gone all out.
- 8:10And all the companies are- We've like, I'm involved we- we, the, our podcast, we'll send him some merch.
- 8:15We have zero merch.
- 8:16Yeah.
- 8:17Freddy, if you're listening, we need Freddy- To wear our merch that we don't have.
- 8:24So there's a running joke now that Freddy's having a better American vacation than like most Americans have ever had.
- 8:30Yeah.
- 8:31And companies are just continuing to Crazy fight for him.
- 8:33Yeah, like he'll be in Texas Roadhouse eating, and Bubba's Burgers is bringing him like a whole thing of merch.
- 8:38He had to buy new luggage.
- 8:40I think somebody gifted him new luggage.
- 8:42It's great.
- 8:43Yeah.
- 8:43I'm- I'm in love with this whole thing.
- 8:44Yeah.
- 8:45Oh, and speaking of the, Europeans being here Did you hear what happened at the Sam Adams place?
- 8:51No.
- 8:51So, sorry, brewery I guess, Apparently, they got wiped out.
- 8:55Oh.
- 8:55I'm pretty sure it was the Scots.
- 8:58And I forgot what they're called, but they're- they're wearing their kilts, and they're drinking it all.
- 9:03They said that they sold more then than they did on St.
- 9:05Patrick's Day.
- 9:06Oh, wow.
- 9:06They're having, they were having to like bring in booze.
- 9:09Wow.
- 9:11That's impressive.
- 9:11Yeah, yeah.
- 9:12Yeah, so I am really loving all of this camaraderie and just- That was like my wedding all the things.
- 9:19They said that we had the most alcohol drank at any wedding ever in the history of the place that we got married at.
- 9:23Did you run out?
- 9:24Close probably.
- 9:25Well, one of our friends worked at the- the place, regularly, but she was a guest at our wedding.
- 9:30Mm-hmm.
- 9:30So she was talking to whomever.
- 9:31Yeah.
- 9:32"We also had a hurricane the night before." It was just a mess.
- 9:34Yeah.
- 9:34You know what?
- 9:34It was a sign.
- 9:36They- they tried to tell me.
- 9:38Okay.
- 9:38yeah, she said that they had more alcohol drank at our wedding than- Oh my gosh any wedding ever.
- 9:44Did y'all have like a complete open bar?
- 9:46Yes.
- 9:47That's a lot.
- 9:47And as soon as I said I do, I was like,"I need a drink.
- 9:50I do need a drink." Yeah.
- 9:51I do need a drink.
- 9:52Yes.
- 9:53One thing a lot of people do at weddings now is they have a, like a signature drink.
- 9:56Mm-hmm.
- 9:57And I think that's the cutest thing.
- 9:59They'll have like a, you know, a his and hers kinda like a martini- Yeah or whatever.
- 10:03I love that idea.
- 10:04Yeah, yeah.
- 10:04So cute.
- 10:05No, they didn't have all that cute stuff at my wedding.
- 10:07No, they didn't.
- 10:08They didn't.
- 10:09But it's all good'cause now it's over.
- 10:11Yeah.
- 10:11I can try again.
- 10:12If you at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
- 10:15I was gonna ask you if you'd get married again, but I didn't wanna jump- Probably not.
- 10:19Well, I don't know.
- 10:20Maybe.
- 10:20Yeah.
- 10:21I don't know.
- 10:22Yeah.
- 10:22We got a lot to, to- There's, there's lots of steps before that yes, yes, yes.
- 10:26Absolutely.
- 10:26Absolutely.
- 10:27But I do love planning a wedding.
- 10:29Like, well, uh, not even planning.
- 10:30Like I just liked the trying on the dresses.
- 10:34That deescalated quickly.
- 10:36Like you were like,"I just love planning a wedding and doing all..." No, actually I don't.
- 10:40No.
- 10:41It's just dresses.
- 10:41I just like dressing like a princess.
- 10:42I like, I like playing dress-up.
- 10:45That's great.
- 10:47That is great.
- 10:48I get obsessed with planning things.
- 10:51Yeah.
- 10:51Or I can get obsessed, like about anything.
- 10:53Like I just start, I want to do all the research- My perfection yes, exactly.
- 10:57Thank you.
- 10:57I couldn't think of the- That's my ADD.
- 10:59Well, hello.
- 11:00Sorry, I didn't mean to smack you.
- 11:01Well maybe I did.
- 11:02Well.
- 11:04I like carrying things out.
- 11:06See, I'm not, I love to start it- Yeah but I never follow through at all.
- 11:10I am a, I'm a list maker just so I can check things off.
- 11:13Mm-hmm.
- 11:14I get that satisfaction.
- 11:15So when things are- Okay, so let me ask you this.
- 11:18Okay.
- 11:18Can you do a digital list?
- 11:20I can't.
- 11:20I need paper.
- 11:21I, I can, but I don't feel as satisfied.
- 11:24I have one, but it's more just so I do remember,'cause I always have my phone with me.
- 11:28Mm-hmm.
- 11:28But I prefer to write things down.
- 11:30I cannot.
- 11:30I will not follow, for whatever reason- Yeah a digital list.
- 11:33I want nothing- No to do with it.
- 11:35I also prefer paper calendar.
- 11:37Me too.
- 11:37I really have tried to use a digital calendar.
- 11:39Yeah and it just doesn't work for me.
- 11:41Now, I have two separate calendars.
- 11:43I have one with, money stuff, bills and payments and all that fun stuff.
- 11:46That one's digital and fine.
- 11:47Mm-hmm that's okay, but, things to do- Yeah I need to see it.
- 11:50And does your brain work in like one-week increments?
- 11:54Like, when you think...
- 11:55Is yours one week?
- 11:56Mm-hmm.
- 11:56Mine's kinda almost two weeks.
- 11:58Like, I, I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow, uh, let alone- Right.
- 12:01No, I might not know, but, when I think about, I don't know, I have brain senior- See, I have such a short-term memory.
- 12:08You're a goldfish.
- 12:08I am.
- 12:09I'm Dory.
- 12:11Um, when I got pregnant, side note, one of the girls I worked with at State Farm in Tennessee, nicknamed me Dory,'cause, I, I'm bad now- Yeah but, I was so much worse when I was pregnant, not being able to remember anything, and they literally called me Dory.
- 12:24I have never picked up on that from you.
- 12:26I- Maybe because I don't remember either.
- 12:29Because we're never really doing, like, important, important things.
- 12:32Yeah.
- 12:33But, I definitely lost a lot of my, Yeah on it- Yeah ness.
- 12:38You know what I can't do as much I can't multitask like I used to.
- 12:41At work I used to be able to be on the phone and handling something else, and literally writing something else for another issue, and now I have to lock in on the one thing.
- 12:50Yeah.
- 12:51I can't.
- 12:51I get distracted way more easily now.
- 12:53That too.
- 12:54But I think that's also working from home versus working in an office setting.
- 12:59I think it's that.
- 13:00I think it's also just the digital era.
- 13:02It's just a habit to pick up our phone and look at it.
- 13:05Mm-hmm.
- 13:05Jackson and I were having this heart-to-heart not long ago, not major, but you know, and he just picked up his phone in the middle and I was like,"What are you doing?" He's like,"I didn't even, mean to, it was just-" Habit.
- 13:14Mm-hmm.
- 13:15Mm-hmm.
- 13:15To look at the phone.
- 13:15Yeah.
- 13:16I get that.
- 13:17Yeah.
- 13:17I totally understand- Mm-hmm'cause I am just as bad.
- 13:21It's just habit.
- 13:23But it's all good.
- 13:24It is all good.
- 13:25Did you watch our docs?
- 13:26I sure did.
- 13:27It was called Squatters Get the F Out of My House.
- 13:30Mm-hmm.
- 13:30Now, There's another Squatter series on A&E.
- 13:33Okay.
- 13:33And I thought that, that this was what that was gonna be.
- 13:36Okay.
- 13:36But it wasn't.
- 13:37But there is another series where, the dude literally goes in there and, lives with the people because they won't get out, and he's like, I got my rental agreement right here." Uh-huh.
- 13:44"I'm supposed to be here.
- 13:45You're not." He has, a whole, crew with him to kick them out.
- 13:49But that, I thought that- Buzz this was, but that's not.
- 13:52That's not what we watched.
- 13:53No so this was six episodes.
- 13:55Yes.
- 13:56And do you wanna go episode by episode, or do you wanna- Yeah, we can just kind of- Yeah, we can do that.
- 14:01I, immediate takeaway, instantly angry.
- 14:03Yeah.
- 14:04Okay.
- 14:05Furious.
- 14:05Yeah.
- 14:06I don't even understand.
- 14:07Yeah.
- 14:07Okay.
- 14:07So yeah, let's talk about ep one.
- 14:08Okay.
- 14:09So ep one was called How to Hijack a House.
- 14:13Yeah.
- 14:14A queen homeowner discovers squatters living in her family home.
- 14:17When she enters with a news crew, the squatter pushes into the door, calls the police, and the owner gets arrested.
- 14:23The viral footage sparked a nationwide outrage and changes state law.
- 14:27Mm-hmm.
- 14:27This was bananas- Yeah that the homeowner got arrested.
- 14:30I know.
- 14:30He convinced the police.
- 14:32She had the deed to the house, everything.
- 14:34She had all the paperwork.
- 14:35If...
- 14:35When you watched it, though, when you heard him talking, you were like,"Yeah, he talks a really good game." Yeah.
- 14:39She has the paperwork.
- 14:41She's got the receipts.
- 14:42But he is really laying it on.
- 14:45But then- I know the news crew was there- I know saying she's got the documents.
- 14:48Like, what are you doing?
- 14:49Why...
- 14:49Right.
- 14:50Yeah, agreed.
- 14:50So put yourself in this position, right?
- 14:52Say, like, you go away for a month on vacation.
- 14:54Mm-hmm.
- 14:54Somebody ends up in your house, and they won't leave.
- 14:56Mm-hmm.
- 14:56And, do you just randomly have your documents- No to prove it's your home?
- 15:00I've, no.
- 15:01No.
- 15:03No.
- 15:03They're all, every one of these are, like, walking up with a deed to the house.
- 15:06I'm like, I wouldn't even know where to find one.
- 15:08I'm sure that they had to do some digging.
- 15:11They had to look around for those a little bit.
- 15:13But if you come to your house, if you're, in that situation, you just leave for, a month on vacation.
- 15:16Yeah.
- 15:17Or, you are only in your home part-time.
- 15:19What killed me too was,, did they change the door?
- 15:24Yeah, and they changed the locks Yes you cannot get into this house you own.
- 15:29No.
- 15:29I don't understand.
- 15:31But then, the fear factor, right?
- 15:33Mm-hmm.
- 15:33Now, some of these were, years ago.
- 15:35Yeah.
- 15:35But now, people are cuckoo.
- 15:38Mm-hmm Like, crazy.
- 15:39Mm.
- 15:39And I would end up dead.
- 15:40I would end up dead.
- 15:41First I'd be in cuffs, and then I would go back.
- 15:43Yeah And then I'd be dead.
- 15:45I just don't understand...
- 15:46Well, let me backtrack.
- 15:48Like you said, they changed the law.
- 15:49To say squatters are not tenants.
- 15:51Right.
- 15:51And thank God.
- 15:53A squatter's basically an intruder.
- 15:55But all these squatters have all these fake documents of, rental agreements and all these- Mm-hmm things.
- 16:01And it's only gonna get worse as AI I don't even wanna leave my,, like- Oh I feel like somebody has to be in my house at all times, one of my immediate people.
- 16:08Crazy.
- 16:10'Cause, I could just be here and just say I'm not leaving.
- 16:13Okay.
- 16:14They're not.
- 16:15That didn't go the way I planned.
- 16:17Yeah, okay, so I felt, the wo- the woman getting arrested- That was crazy to me and they had it on video.
- 16:23I know.
- 16:24The news crew.
- 16:25Crazy, man.
- 16:26Crazy.
- 16:26That was the only reason anything got done was'cause of the news crew.
- 16:28Absolutely.
- 16:29Thank goodness.
- 16:30Because the, judge in that city saw the newscasting- Yes and was like,"Oh, no, no, no." Yeah.
- 16:39So that's- Yeah the only reason she got her home back.
- 16:41Mm-hmm.
- 16:42Mm-mm.
- 16:42I felt bad for her.
- 16:43And then all the damage when she got back into it, apparently that one was about$200,000 to repair all of that.
- 16:50Yeah.
- 16:51I don't know, just crazy pants.
- 16:52So then episode two, The Parasite of Malibu.
- 16:55In Malibu, an eccentric squatter embeds herself in an elite beach community, exploiting tenant protections and legal loopholes to live rent-free, leaving homeowners financially drained, emotionally traumatized, and battling to reclaim their home.
- 17:08She's a serial squatter.
- 17:11I think most of these people are.
- 17:12I guess.
- 17:13I just don't understand.
- 17:15I, I'm sorry, I'm gonna say that about 1,000 times.
- 17:17Mm-hmm.
- 17:17And I'm gonna try to not, but...
- 17:19and she was, like, British or something, wasn't she?
- 17:21She- Yeah, I feel like s- Something?
- 17:23Yes, she had some kind of, yeah.
- 17:24Well, who knows if it was real, because I feel like she'd be the one who just, makes all the things up.
- 17:28Mm-hmm.
- 17:28But yeah, so she was in Malibu, in the bu.
- 17:32Mm-hmm.
- 17:33Well, I mean, if you're gonna squat in a house- Yes go to a nice place.
- 17:36Yes.
- 17:36I wouldn't want to squat in Clover, South Carolina if I can go squat in, in Malibu.
- 17:40In Malibu.
- 17:41If I have my options for squatting locations.
- 17:44It's not gonna be here.
- 17:46Squat sounds so disgusting- I know like that, doesn't it?
- 17:49Who came up with that name?
- 17:50I don't know.
- 17:51I feel like there should've been something else, like- Like invader?
- 17:54Yeah.
- 17:54Yeah, like let's just figure out something else better than squat.
- 17:57And what got me too about her is they're like,"If you see her, go the other way." people know that she's like this.
- 18:03Mm-hmm.
- 18:04Crazy.
- 18:05Yeah.
- 18:06Yeah, there wasn't, a big, oh my God moment for me- Right for that episode- No other than, this is crazy.
- 18:11Yeah.
- 18:13Episode three, The Dating App Squatter.
- 18:16When Colorado Spring's mom dies, a man claiming to be her common-law husband takes over her home.
- 18:22Her family watches helplessly as the squatter destroys everything and taunts them with photos in her clothes.
- 18:28Then he sues them for$400,000- Yep from prison.
- 18:33He's like a cockroach- that just won't go away.
- 18:37This was, like, true crime-y feeling.
- 18:38Yeah.
- 18:38Like the real true crime-y feeling.
- 18:40They should've looked into the, her death.
- 18:42No.
- 18:43Yeah.
- 18:44It was the, it was the clothes for me.
- 18:46The whole thing is gross.
- 18:48Uh-huh.
- 18:49He immediately went into action.
- 18:52He didn't visit her at all in the hospital- Mm-hmm while she was dying in the hospital.
- 18:55But all of a sudden.
- 18:56And then all of a sudden they're common-law married.
- 18:58That's- Yeah bananas.
- 18:59Yeah.
- 18:59That was hard.
- 19:00I felt so bad for her.
- 19:01She had two sisters, I think, that were being interviewed.
- 19:04I don't remember.
- 19:04It doesn't matter, but- Yeah yeah, I felt, I just felt bad for the fam.
- 19:07But then to sue them after the fact, I mean- I know.
- 19:10He won prison that he didn't show up to court.
- 19:12Well.
- 19:13'Cause he was in prison.
- 19:15You should have thought that one through, bud.
- 19:17Obviously, thinking things through isn't his strong suit.
- 19:19But the attorney or whoever that supposedly, filed the paperwork wasn't even an attorney.
- 19:24I missed that.
- 19:24Yeah.
- 19:26Jeez.
- 19:27Kinda like Dr.
- 19:28Phil not being a doctor.
- 19:30Yeah.
- 19:30It was, like, all sorts of scammy- Yeah even in that part.
- 19:33Yeah.
- 19:34It wasn't even, a legit lawsuit that one felt smarmy gross.
- 19:37Yeah.
- 19:38Yeah.
- 19:38The others just really pissed me off.
- 19:40That one pissed me off and it felt like, ugh.
- 19:43Episode four.
- 19:44Okay, so a sophisticated con artist becomes the ultimate squatter, posing as the official trustee of a reclusive millionaire's estate in Los Angeles.
- 19:52As she cashes in on his fortune, investigators race to find Charles Wilding before his legal rights and his life are erased.
- 20:01But he was erased.
- 20:02He was erased.
- 20:02Because he was dead.
- 20:03He was dead.
- 20:04And she she told them at the end they tried to dissolve the body, but they were having a hard time.
- 20:09But then do you not question how he died?
- 20:12I don't think it was of old age.
- 20:13Mm-hmm.
- 20:13I think these people- Mm-hmm.
- 20:14Mm-hmm talk about a true crime moment.
- 20:16Which is, yeah, yeah, exactly, which is probably why the, one reason why they wanted to get rid of the body.
- 20:22So- Get rid of the evidence but she went in there, right?
- 20:24So she sends out this letter- Mm-hmm to all the neighbors- Mm-hmm"hey, I'm so and so," Mm-hmm"the trustee for this house." Mm-hmm.
- 20:30"And we're gonna be doing some renovations, and if you have any questions, let me know." Way to announce your presence, right?
- 20:35Mm-hmm.
- 20:36If you're trying to be whatever.
- 20:38Right.
- 20:39The stupidity.
- 20:40Does it raise more red flags when you do that?
- 20:42I think that- Than when you just are, like, sneaking in and, and laying low.
- 20:46I think that if she just went in there doing renovations, if somebody happened to ask, like,"Hey, what's going on?" Yeah, yeah.
- 20:51Like,"Oh, well, I'm helping out with the renovations," you know- Yeah blah, blah, blah.
- 20:53Instead of being like,"Hey, everybody, here I am." It's,"Hello.
- 20:57Hello.
- 20:58Hello." Yeah.
- 20:59So that- Yeah was wacky.
- 21:01And then the neighbor's not trusting this, rightfully so, calls the cops.
- 21:06Cops do a wellness check.
- 21:07Mm-hmm.
- 21:07They can't find this man.
- 21:10Several times.
- 21:10Yeah.
- 21:11Um, and then they spoke to some random person on the phone who was pretending to be the guy.
- 21:17Neighbors did not let up, thank goodness.
- 21:19And they pulled her in, and then they're like,"Is there anything else you wanna tell us?""Well, now that you mentioned it, um- we did find a dead body, and then we tried to dissolve it, and it didn't work out so great.""Just wanted you to know that this happened.""But he was dead before we got there." I cannot believe that this is real life.
- 21:37I know.
- 21:38I know.
- 21:39I felt like that the whole time.
- 21:41So episode five, Don't Piss Off Patty Peoples.
- 21:45When squatters and their pit bull puppies take over a Jacksonville home, police can't remove them, but Patty Peoples fights back from the sidewalk for 36 days only to discover the squatters' final act of revenge.
- 21:56This was- insane because- Is this the one that grabbed you?
- 21:59One of them.
- 22:00Well- Okay All of them did.
- 22:01Right.
- 22:01Like, watching this entire s- miniseries, it was like- I know, it was all like it couldn't be real.
- 22:05And it got worse and worse and worse with every episode.
- 22:07Mm-hmm.
- 22:08Mm-hmm.
- 22:08And every one was bad.
- 22:11So they bought the house for a flip kinda house.
- 22:14Mm-hmm.
- 22:15And they go there and a woman is there, and they're like,"W- who are you?
- 22:21This is my home." And she's like,"No, I'm renting this house.
- 22:25I, I paid this amount of money.
- 22:26I'm- I'm renting this house." And the poor woman that owns the home she feels bad for the lady.
- 22:30Right.
- 22:31Like, she's feeling compassion for the woman.
- 22:32Yeah.
- 22:33Like, I cannot believe.
- 22:34The lady was like,"You pay me my$3,000 that I put down, and I'll, I'll leave." And the poor woman that owns the house is like,"What do you mean?""This is my home." For this one, there was not just a, an anger emotion.
- 22:45It was that compassion side that it was...
- 22:47You know, I just felt really bad.
- 22:49Yeah.
- 22:49Real bad.
- 22:50Like, I was- I was- I was more than pissed off.
- 22:51Yeah.
- 22:52Yes, yes, yes.
- 22:53Yeah, so then a- as it goes on, you now realize,'cause the police officer does a background check- Mm-hmm on the woman that is, squatting, and finds out this isn't her first rodeo of police, issues with squatting because she has another case open from the same year.
- 23:08So- They're habitual squatters.
- 23:11Serial squatters.
- 23:12Serial squatters.
- 23:13So, this poor woman that owns the home literally, camps out on the sidewalk outside of the house.
- 23:20Mm-hmm.
- 23:20Mm-hmm.
- 23:20And it was like,"Get out"- screaming from the sidewalk.
- 23:23And it's like these two little old women that, like- Yeah are, are went in on this house to try to flip it.
- 23:28And the amount of people that were coming and going, and, they were in this woman's face.
- 23:34I would've feared for my life.
- 23:36Yeah.
- 23:36It wasn't like they were wholesome people that were squatting.
- 23:39Right.
- 23:39Not that I don't think many- wholesome people squat, but, They looked like they were trying to- Yeah cause.
- 23:46They were naughty.
- 23:47Mm.
- 23:48They were, they were definitely not there for the good of anybody- So- but for themselves.
- 23:52The final night, when they finally are able to give them a, their 30-day, get-out notice- Mm-hmm and they have to wait the full 30 days- Which is crazy.
- 23:59Yes.
- 23:59You're evicting somebody that you never invited in.
- 24:02Yes.
- 24:02Okay, go ahead.
- 24:03So after the 30 days, And she's just sitting outside watching all this happen, still on the sidewalk because- Mm-hmm they camped out for 30- 30-something whatever days.
- 24:12Yep.
- 24:12She's called the cops.
- 24:13There's, people...
- 24:14It, it's crazy in there right now.
- 24:16There's, tons of people.
- 24:17There's things banging, and the cops are like,"We can't do anything until tomorrow.
- 24:21If they're not out tomorrow, that's when we can get involved.
- 24:24But because there is a 30-day-" Mm-hmm.
- 24:26They have to legally follow that.
- 24:28She walks in, and they had ripped out every wall- They had ripped out appliances.
- 24:33They had trashed the plumbing.
- 24:36Any damage that you could do they basically gutted the house.
- 24:39And that's a lot of work.
- 24:41A lot.
- 24:41That's not just, like, you know, pulling a cord out of a wall.
- 24:44That is hard labor work to do stuff like that.
- 24:48And in the court hearing or whatever, it was like a$3,500 restoration fee.
- 24:53It was, like, 70 some odd thou- how- however the amount was to fix it.
- 24:57It was a crazy amount to fix the home, and she got, like, a$3,500 restitution fee, and she hasn't paid to date.
- 25:04Furious But if they're squatting, like, they don't have money.
- 25:07How are they gonna repay?
- 25:08Or do they have money and they're just- Yeah, maybe living that way?
- 25:11True.
- 25:12So our final episode.
- 25:14Yes.
- 25:15This was the squatter and the SWAT team.
- 25:17The SWAT standoff.
- 25:18Yes.
- 25:19Yeah.
- 25:19When Shenita Little discovers a squatter has taken over her first home in Newark, New Jersey, she learns he is linked to a French anti-government ideology claiming sovereign ownership.
- 25:30What follows is a SWAT standoff, a TikTok firestorm, and a fight to reclaim her American dream.
- 25:37I felt so bad for this lady.
- 25:39Mm-hmm.
- 25:40She just got out of an abusive relationship.
- 25:42Yeah Just wanted, a home that was safe, and it was hers.
- 25:44Yeah And she just had something.
- 25:46She just bought this home.
- 25:47Yeah.
- 25:47She was, doing the renovations or- Mm-hmm so she could move in, and goes there, and this dude, m- menacing looking man- Mm-hmm'cause he's just staring at her- Mm-hmm is in her home.
- 25:59She calls the police.
- 26:00The police are like,"Uh..." And I feel like that's, like, their reaction to e- every one of these things is like,"Um..." Well, because it just feels unreal- Yeah I guess.
- 26:09Yeah.
- 26:10And, and what's the, what's the difference in just being an intruder Yeah there's an intruder in my home.
- 26:15But I guess if they have stuff-, they're claiming,'cause it's like your word against theirs- Yeah is what I assume is- Yeah the main issue.
- 26:22Yeah.
- 26:23So they find out who this guy is.
- 26:25He's part of this whatever sovereign whatever- Mm-hmm thing, and they're like,"We have to call the FBI in." C- that was crazy.
- 26:34But I was like, you know what?
- 26:35I would prefer that than this 30-day waiting period where they're destroying- True my house.
- 26:39True.
- 26:40100% would prefer that.
- 26:41True.
- 26:41Bring in the big guns.
- 26:42Yeah.
- 26:42Yeah.
- 26:43So after, this big standoff where she's TikTok live streaming the entire standoff.
- 26:49That is insane.
- 26:50That's genius.
- 26:51Like, she had- It is, yes she had to gain so many followers and, get monetized.
- 26:54Oh, how- Yeah.
- 26:55Can you imagine that popping up in your feed?
- 26:56Do you know how fast I would be zooming in and...
- 26:59Yeah.
- 27:00Listen, I have said this over and over and over.
- 27:02If I ever did a story time on my life, I would've gone viral, but I won't do that.
- 27:10They get the dude, they arrest him.
- 27:11He gets out on bail.
- 27:13And then he disappears, but then he's on podcasts and doing all these, interviews- Mm-hmm about the situation, making it out like the homeowner- Was the psycho.
- 27:22Yeah.
- 27:23Yeah.
- 27:24What?
- 27:24I know.
- 27:25I know.
- 27:26I don't understand how people can even try to put these thoughts.
- 27:30Are they that messed up that they think that this is real?
- 27:32Yes.
- 27:32Do they think their version is true?
- 27:34Well, I just think that they think that the loudest person is gonna win.
- 27:37Well, and unfortunately, they do win until, it gets to the nitty-gritty a lot of times.
- 27:41Yeah.
- 27:42Until the paperwork's identified and- Yeah like in the very first step when she got arrested.
- 27:47But it's, almost, a master level of gaslighting.
- 27:49Oh, yeah.
- 27:50'Cause, I mean, they are like,"No, I live here." Yeah.
- 27:53Like,"This is my house." Yeah.
- 27:54Like,"This is my house." I'm just gonna continue to say it, and I'm gonna say it so much that everybody just believes it.
- 27:59That's crazy.
- 28:00This, like, this, this would make me, like, literally go off the deep end.
- 28:03Dealing with that, off the deep end.
- 28:04Well, and just- Like cannonball.
- 28:06Boo.
- 28:06I, I just don't get it.
- 28:08No.
- 28:08I just don't get it.
- 28:11No.
- 28:12I get nothing about it.
- 28:14I did make myself laugh, though, when I was watching it.
- 28:16Don't remember which yet, but they were, like, trying to get, entice them to step outside.
- 28:20I was like,"Is this like vampires where you have to invite them in?
- 28:23For squatters, you have to invite them out, and they have to come out willingly?" I totally would recommend watching it, but you will get angry You will get livid.
- 28:31You'll get angry.
- 28:32It was really hard for me to watch.
- 28:33I had to take breaks.
- 28:34The other pod we did with the, scandals- Mm-hmm so sucked in.
- 28:38Yeah.
- 28:38This one I had to keep stepping away.
- 28:40I got upset.
- 28:42I don't know.
- 28:42It blows my mind that- Me too people can get away with this.
- 28:45But this sovereign citizen thing, do you ever watch, reels or whatever on Facebook or TikTok or whatever, and see these people that are driving without licenses and they're being pulled over, and they're saying that they don't need one because they're travelers- Yes and they're sovereign citizens, and they don't- Yes they don't need licenses?
- 29:03And these co- the cops that I've seen, I'm sure there's some that get really frustrated, they have so much patience.
- 29:08They're like,"You have to have one." Yeah.
- 29:10Mm-hmm.
- 29:11And they get so irate.
- 29:12Mm-hmm.
- 29:13"I don't..." Yeah.
- 29:14And they end up getting arrested.
- 29:15Yeah.
- 29:15And then they're like,"I'm a sovereign citizen, you can't arrest me." I don't even understand how...
- 29:19Like, how did that even start?
- 29:21Somebody trying to steal a house?
- 29:22I guess.
- 29:23I guess.
- 29:24Serial squatters- Yeah turns into serial sovereign citizens.
- 29:28But if you had a license and you got your license suspended or taken away or whatever, for whatever reason, then you all of a sudden become a sovereign citizen.
- 29:36You weren't a sovereign citizen prior to you losing your license.
- 29:39Mm-hmm.
- 29:40So it's not something that you believe in or a community that you're truly a part of.
- 29:44You pay them however much dollars to become a sovereign citizen.
- 29:48Sovereign citizen.
- 29:49And they feed you this line of BS that is totally not relevant.
- 29:53And I almost feel like they try to get pulled over so they can have the arguments., I just don't know how people are so delusional- I know that they think it's gonna work.
- 30:03Yeah.
- 30:03I don't know.
- 30:04I do recommend watching it.
- 30:06I do too.
- 30:06Maybe just one or two eps if your anger level rises.
- 30:10But it was fascinating.
- 30:11It was.
- 30:12Yeah., Do you have another doc on your list you wanna talk about?
- 30:14Do you have anything?
- 30:15Well, yeah.
- 30:16The, one that I came across that looked really good to me was the, Woodstock one.
- 30:21Okay.
- 30:21Have you watched that?
- 30:22Mm-mm.
- 30:22Okay.
- 30:23There's a documentary on Netflix.
- 30:24Okay.
- 30:24It's called Trainwreck Woodstock'99.
- 30:27Okay.
- 30:27And that's, right around our time when we were- Oh, I remember when that was, yeah.
- 30:30Yes.
- 30:31So it's just all about the madness of the Woodstock in 1999.
- 30:36Okay.
- 30:37And I think it's only, three eps.
- 30:38Not super huge, let's, let's do that one.
- 30:41Okay, cool.
- 30:41Okay..
- 30:42I just the other day saw, did you see in the UK, a 30-year-old man grabbed a random three-year-old at a zoo and threw this child into the crocodile enclosure.
- 30:54No.
- 30:55Yeah.
- 30:56So the zoo owner's wife jumps into the enclosure to save the child, and the child only has a broken arm and a broken pelvis.
- 31:03Not only, but, like, at least- But- he didn't get chomped- Right by a, a crocodile.
- 31:07Crocodile.
- 31:08Oh, my gosh the man later, was arrested for, I mean, almost attempted murder?
- 31:14Yeah, attempted murder.
- 31:15Really?
- 31:15Okay.
- 31:16And he was a complete stranger.
- 31:17The student hadn't, like, had no encounter with this- I just need to know- poor baby his mental health status.
- 31:22Well, so there's...
- 31:22He's out on bail already.
- 31:24Disgusting.
- 31:25And this is in the UK?
- 31:26This is in the UK.
- 31:27So then I'm like, you know, following this news story all week- Mm-hmm or whatever, and it said that this zoo was the UK version of Tiger King.
- 31:35Like they had a documentary.
- 31:37Which that was a great one.
- 31:38So this was like a well-known place, I guess, and in the, the documentary they said that he told in like his will or whatever he wants to be fed to the crocodiles when he dies See, I think they're setting him up to be killed, like murdered.
- 31:55Yeah, yeah.
- 31:57Before they, they notify the police.
- 31:58Well, he, he, it's in his will to feed him to the crocs.
- 32:01Yeah.
- 32:02And you know, I have a fascination with the alligators and the crocodiles, but I've Number one, I'm not throwing a child in there.
- 32:09Carole Baskin.
- 32:10Yeah.
- 32:11Mm-hmm.
- 32:13Oh my gosh.
- 32:14Yeah.
- 32:15That is, that is crazy.
- 32:16I can't believe he got bail.
- 32:16As the parent, I would like Oh my goodness.
- 32:20Like, what?
- 32:21I can't believe he's already out.
- 32:22I know.
- 32:25He looks very- A little bit evil.
- 32:27Like he's just got like dead eyes.
- 32:29Yes.
- 32:29Like shark eyes.
- 32:30Yes Did the croc get him?
- 32:31Mm Like, no bites, no nothing, poor child.
- 32:34That was the last update was that he's out on bail, and the child has a broken arm and- That's toughest but, kudos to the wife for- Yeah jumping in there.
- 32:43Yeah that's crazy.
- 32:46Yeah.
- 32:46Do you remember several years ago when the child fell into the gorilla thing?
- 32:50That was a sweet story, though.
- 32:51Yeah.
- 32:51And the gorilla was, like, protective over the child.
- 32:55I love them.
- 32:58Oh my gosh, there's baby beavers by our house.
- 33:02Aren't they adorable?
- 33:03They are.
- 33:03I have a video.
- 33:04Oh, can I see?
- 33:05And Brian wouldn't let me get out of the car and get'em, and I was too slow to get out to the car to get'em.
- 33:10So we were going down the road the other day.
- 33:11This is, the main road before you turn and get on our gravel road.
- 33:14We were going down the road the other day, there was a little one in the middle of the road.
- 33:17And I was like,"Is that a squirrel?" You know, uh, and we got closer, I was like,"Oh my God, that's a beaver." And it ran across the road.
- 33:23Do they have a big tail, like a- Yes.
- 33:25It ran across the road and, in a drain.
- 33:28Uh-huh.
- 33:28And then as I'm looking and watching that, I see a chunky one like run and go under a house, and then another one under a house.
- 33:34There's like a whole family over there.
- 33:36We had groundhogs, in Pennsylvania- Mm-hmm that lived under our shed, and then we had to get rid of them because they were, messing up the foundation to the house- Yeah digging holes and stuff.
- 33:44Yeah.
- 33:45But, Yeah it was a whole family of groundhogs.
- 33:47Well, the beavers are bad because It's like a cartoon the way they literally dam up and they're, the points on the ends of the s- the trees are really l- they gnaw them down, but they'll dam it up and then, you know, the water won't flow.
- 33:58And the, and they're doing their job.
- 34:01Yeah.
- 34:01They're doing what they think they need to do.
- 34:02Yeah.
- 34:03Um, but, but they're not great for that area, so I'm sure they'll be- Relocated?
- 34:08Mm-hmm.
- 34:09Yeah.
- 34:09But adorable.
- 34:11Well- Yeah that was, like, my only, WTF for the- the week.
- 34:15Well, mine was deer and, beavers, so there you go.
- 34:18It's all animal related.
- 34:19It is.
- 34:20Crocodiles, deer, and beavers.
- 34:21Oh my.
- 34:24Well, do you wanna do am I the a-hole?
- 34:25Yeah, girl, let's go.
- 34:27This is very, very recent.
- 34:29It is.
- 34:29So June 9th.
- 34:30Uh-huh.
- 34:31Just last, last week-ish, whatever.
- 34:33Doesn't matter.
- 34:34A couple- This month.
- 34:34Yeah.
- 34:35Okay.
- 34:36Am I the a-hole for dropping out of my sister's wedding after accidentally overhearing what she really thinks of me?
- 34:42I, 29 female, have a younger sister, Layla, 26 female, who got engaged six months ago, and when she said she couldn't afford an engagement party, I ended up paying 4,200 pounds for the entire thing, venue, catering, decorations, everything, and she promised to pay me back, but never mentioned it again.
- 35:04Two weeks later she asked me to be her maid of honor, and I was so happy I immediately said yes and started planning everything.
- 35:11Then last week I was on a video call with our mom when Layla walked in, not knowing I could hear, and I heard her tell mom that her best friend Sophie was supposed to be maid of honor but backed out because she's pregnant and exhausted.
- 35:23And then Layla said,"I had to ask," my name,"instead.
- 35:27At least she's already paid for everything, so she'll just keep going along with whatever I need." I sat on mute, not moving for a full minute.
- 35:35Then my aunt told me Layla had been telling her fiance's entire family that I volunteered to pay for the party as a gift.
- 35:41So now this whole family thinks I'm this generous, selfless sister when in reality I'm just a backup plan that she picked because I'm easy to control, and I'm still waiting to be paid back my 4,200 pounds, which equaled$5,700 in US, I think.
- 35:58$5,574 and 3 cents.
- 36:03I called her and told her I was stepping down as maid of honor, and she cried and said I was ruining her wedding.
- 36:08And now my mom is furious and my dad hasn't spoken to me in three days, and everyone is acting like I'm a villain for refusing to smile and stand next to someone who only sees me as an ATM with legs.
- 36:22I was on mute, not deaf.
- 36:23Oh, mic drop.
- 36:26Am I the a-hole?
- 36:27I don't think so.
- 36:28I don't think so either.
- 36:29That's really being taken advantage of.
- 36:30Yeah.
- 36:31I think- That's a lot of money I think your sister's the a-hole.
- 36:34Mm-hmm.
- 36:35I do too.
- 36:36Like, why would you...
- 36:36Well, that doesn't matter.
- 36:38I was- But it sounds like this, the sister's a spoiled little brat.
- 36:41Was she the baby of the family?
- 36:43Uh, the one's younger.
- 36:44The- Yeah brat is younger.
- 36:45Yeah, so she's the baby.
- 36:46I'm sure she's used to- Getting her way you know.
- 36:49That's how we babies are.
- 36:50Well, you know.
- 36:52But still, not even- Just taking advantage.
- 36:55Mm-hmm.
- 36:55Mm-hmm.
- 36:57I feel like if somebody would do something like that for me, I would be, like we said that the Americans are overcompensating, I'd be like,"You guys, this amazing party is sponsored by..." But she's supposed to pay the money back.
- 37:09But she's supposed to pay it back, but now she's just going around telling everybody it was a gift.
- 37:11Uh-huh Yeah, I don't know.
- 37:13Ah.
- 37:14All right, there is an update two days later.
- 37:15Okay.
- 37:16I'm scared it's gonna ruin their family.
- 37:18Mm-hmm.
- 37:18Um, June 11th, so two days later.
- 37:21"Update: I did not expect so many of you to respond and have read through so many comments.
- 37:26Thank you, genuinely.""Strangers on the internet have shown me more kindness in one day than my own family has in years, and that says everything.
- 37:34Here's what has happened since I posted.
- 37:36I screenshotted every single message where Layla acknowledged the£4,200 as a loan.
- 37:41Three texts from her saying she would pay me back, saved in three different places now.
- 37:45I sent my parents a calm, factual email, no emo- no emotions, no dramatics, just a timeline.
- 37:53The engagement party cost, the loan agreement, what I'd heard on the call word for word, what she had told his family.
- 38:00I told them I love them, but I will not apologize for removing myself from a situation where I was being used." Mm-hmm.
- 38:07She's not gotten a reply yet, by the way.
- 38:08Mm-hmm.
- 38:09So, uh, she says she, uh,"Have canceled every booking I made as maid of honor and got back what I could.
- 38:15The rest is a lesson.
- 38:16I've not contacted her fiance yet, but I'm not ruling it out, and he deserves to know the£4,200 was never a gift.
- 38:24Still sitting on that one.
- 38:25Will not be attending the wedding, will not be sending a gift." I'll be booking a trip somewhere that I've never been with the money I would've spent on her hen to deposit.
- 38:35Hen's like a bachelorette party.
- 38:36I think that's cute.
- 38:37Mm-hmm.
- 38:38Um, to everyone who said chosen family is realer than blood, I'm starting to understand that now.
- 38:42I was on mute, not deaf, and now I'm done being silent too.
- 38:48I'll update again if anything happens.
- 38:50Wow.
- 38:51But why was she putting down payments, more deposits down?
- 38:54I don't...
- 38:54When she said she started planning everything- Was that just for the bachelorette party?
- 38:58Like, an Airbnb, I guess, maybe.
- 39:00I don't know.
- 39:00Yeah whatever else you would, the stripper.
- 39:02I don't know how.
- 39:03I don't know.
- 39:04Bachelorette things have gotten so, we've, we could do a whole- Awesome ep on that, but yeah, I don't know what else she was putting deposits on.
- 39:12But good for her.
- 39:13I'm proud of her for that.
- 39:14Boundaries.
- 39:15Yes.
- 39:16Uh- Claps for you no is a full sentence.
- 39:19But yeah, I don't think she's the hell.
- 39:21The sister definitely is, and the parents are.
- 39:23Yeah.
- 39:24Yeah.
- 39:25Mm-mm.
- 39:25That, I'm not a fan.
- 39:26I'm not either.
- 39:27Come here.
- 39:28Come to the Americas.
- 39:29You all are here now anyway.
- 39:30We'll, I'll take you to Buc-ee's.
- 39:32I'll take you to the Waffle House.
- 39:33We'll even fight.
- 39:34You wanna fight?
- 39:35Okay.
- 39:37You would so win.
- 39:39I would not anymore.
- 39:40I might.
- 39:41It depends on how mad I am.
- 39:42If I watch that documentary- And then, yeah, that's, that's your pre-game.
- 39:45So this is our point where we're gonna do our book review, so if you are not into the reviews, if you're not a bookie- Mm-hmm you may exit now.
- 39:51We love you.
- 39:52Thank you for listening.
- 39:52Come back next week.
- 39:53We do love you even though you can't read.
- 39:54Bye.
- 39:57All right, um, so we read The Lake House Children by Greg Dunnett.
- 40:01So here's a little blurb.
- 40:02Yep.
- 40:03At first Kate's confused about what he's telling her.
- 40:05Don't little kids say the weirdest things?
- 40:07But soon she can't pretend it isn't something more.
- 40:10No four-year-old should know what Jack does, have memories from before he was even born.
- 40:14Then Jack reveals something he saw years ago at the family lake house, something that, if true, could tear their family apart, could never be forgiven.
- 40:22What really happened all those years ago, and how far will Kate go to find out?
- 40:26Go ahead.
- 40:26It was your book, so I, I liked it, but- Okay.
- 40:29Okay.
- 40:29I liked the premise of this book.
- 40:31Mm-hmm.
- 40:32Um, of course spoilers.
- 40:34We, don't hear a lot about reincarnation, I kept...
- 40:37In my head I was like,"Are we really going down that path?" Mm.
- 40:39"Or is there something darker going on?" Mm-hmm.
- 40:42Like, where is this coming from?
- 40:44Mm-hmm.
- 40:44I liked that it was different in that.
- 40:46But side note, creepy children- Mm-hmm are worse than creepy adults.
- 40:52Uh-huh.
- 40:54Um, I mean, he wasn't even, like, creepy.
- 40:56He was just saying things that he shouldn't know- Yeah about- What happened things that happened and- So some spoilers.
- 41:02Yeah.
- 41:02So we're gonna get into the big spoilers now.
- 41:04Yeah.
- 41:04So three sisters go to their father's big, giant lake house.
- 41:10Mm-hmm.
- 41:10And Dad ends up committing suicide.
- 41:13Which that seems kind of random at the very beginning of the book.
- 41:16Yeah.
- 41:16So he dies- that didn't even need to happen.
- 41:19No.
- 41:19Okay, anyway.
- 41:20He dies by choice.
- 41:21Mm-hmm.
- 41:22Um, and then the three daughters are left at this house.
- 41:26So then you see, this backstory.
- 41:28One of the sisters, Beau is her name?
- 41:30Was it Beau?
- 41:30Something like that.
- 41:31B something.
- 41:32Bea.
- 41:32Bea.
- 41:33She lost her son several summers before.
- 41:37Mm-hmm.
- 41:37Her son drowned at the lake house.
- 41:38Mm-hmm.
- 41:39So she obviously isn't in love with this...
- 41:41Like, it's bad memories for her.
- 41:43She's obviously- Yeah not over it.
- 41:45Yep.
- 41:45The other sister- Mm-hmm who has twins- Mm-hmm is like,"No, we're gonna keep the house, and we're gonna renovate it, and it's gonna be this big, fabulous thing," and- Mm-hmm on and on and on, and offers to fund all these upgrades to this home.
- 42:00Mm-hmm.
- 42:00Major upgrades and major fixes.
- 42:03So our main character, Kate, I think her name was- Mm-hmm has a son, and- He's three, I think, at the beginning of the book Yes, and so he's like slowly developing and can't really speak fully yet.
- 42:14Um- Mm-hmm he's having some developmental stuff going on.
- 42:17And- His name is Jack his name is Jack, and the boy that died's name was Zach.
- 42:22Coincidence?
- 42:23I think not.
- 42:25I think not.
- 42:26So now Jack won't take baths, he won't get near water.
- 42:29Mm-hmm.
- 42:29He's petrified of water, and he can't really verbalize anything yet.
- 42:33Right.
- 42:34But what he is saying is like mumble jumbo to adults- Right but he's trying to say,"I am Zach.
- 42:39I drowned." S- but he's saying it like,"I ack, I ow." Uh-huh.
- 42:43Uh-huh.
- 42:43Like, that's the words.
- 42:44The audiobook was great, by the way.
- 42:46It was wonderful, yeah.
- 42:46It was, it was great to hear that phonetically.
- 42:49So everybody's,"Oh, we don't know what you're saying, dude." Yeah.
- 42:51So they end up, they just give him like sponge baths every day.
- 42:54Okay.
- 42:54Yeah, they use baby wipe- Yeah baby wipes.
- 42:56I was like, I don't know how, like...
- 42:58Right.
- 42:59I don't, I, I feel like there's a better way.
- 43:01Yeah.
- 43:01But anyway.
- 43:02So they don't go near water, and as the child's now being able to say more things- Mm-hmm there's other instances, like they were at the sister Bee's house and she had a train.
- 43:13Yeah.
- 43:13And he kept saying like,"Mine, mine, mine," but she's saying,"Fine." Yeah, yeah.
- 43:18"My a- my ain, my ain." Yeah.
- 43:20Yeah.
- 43:20What she was trying to tell them is,"My train-" Mm-hmm which was one of his favorite toys when he was Zach.
- 43:24Yes.
- 43:25Yes.
- 43:25Just to be clear, it's not like this kid is being possessed by Zach or whatever, but he's just got memories of, he keeps talking about when he was big.
- 43:32Mm-hmm.
- 43:33That's how it started, like he did things when he was big.
- 43:35So they try to dig into it, come, and he was saying,"I ack." Uh-huh.
- 43:40Which was,"I'm Zach." But they were also thinking,"I'm Jack.""I'm Jack," exactly.
- 43:44Uh-huh.
- 43:45Um, but, but yeah, that was he, when he was bigger, so he has memories of when he was a little kid doing all these things.
- 43:52Mm-hmm.
- 43:53So the mom finally is like,"Yeah, something's going on here," Yeah she's g- showing him pictures of like different h- beach houses that he would've visited.
- 44:00It's undeniable that there's...
- 44:02Right, like he had never been to this beach house with this, you know, with his, his new family.
- 44:06Uh-huh.
- 44:06But as Zach, he had been there, and he's like picking out houses and picking out toys that were, you know, specifically his- Right Zach.
- 44:16This whole time Kate's husband is like,"No, no, no.
- 44:18This isn't-" I knew something was up with him.
- 44:19Me too.
- 44:20Like I, he, he- I couldn't figure it out- Could not but definitely the kid loved him, so I was like,"Okay, he's not hurting the kid." Yeah.
- 44:26But something's off.
- 44:27The way though that he was- I think it was Neil yeah, I, he was British or something.
- 44:31He- Ugh.
- 44:32I'm just kidding.
- 44:33Just kidding our new English friends.
- 44:35But he was, he, like fighting it tooth and nail, like this is not...
- 44:38He was a scientist, so he- Yes doesn't believe in- He was very much a- spiritual right, very much a evolution and the way things happen and just even at the end of the book when some of the stuff came out that we can get to, was just he basically blamed it on being a scientist.
- 44:54Yeah, so fast-forward, like they do all the things to try to figure out if this is a re- Mm-hmm reincarnation, whatever.
- 45:01They go to the house after the renovations are done and the fancy sister- And pretty Kate hasn't told her other sisters about this.
- 45:08She doesn't wanna hurt anybody and bring up stuff and, and whatever, so she's just trying to teach Jack to not say this kind of stuff around his other mommy.
- 45:16Mm-hmm.
- 45:16Which is crazy.
- 45:17Yeah.
- 45:18I would be so jealous.
- 45:19I, I've...
- 45:20Yeah.
- 45:22But anyway, so then they're, they're gonna be all together as a family- Right at the, after the renovations are done.
- 45:26So the renovations are done.
- 45:27They have this big, like, grand opening party.
- 45:29Mm-hmm.
- 45:29Kate's son Jack now has revealed that he was drowned by his cousin Aaron.
- 45:35Mm-hmm, who was one of the twins.
- 45:36One of the twins.
- 45:37That they were playing a game that he didn't like, and Aaron kept holding his head underwater and ended up killing him.
- 45:44But the twin's mom told the police that- He was out playing Zach was not listening and kept going- Mm-hmm swimming out further and further, and she couldn't reach him.
- 45:52By the time Mm-hmm she got there, he was already gone.
- 45:54Mm-hmm.
- 45:55So just keep that in mind.
- 45:57Mm-hmm.
- 45:59We get to the, to the grand opening lake house and everything comes out.
- 46:03Mm-hmm.
- 46:03So they're all like i- it, it just all like- Implodes.
- 46:06Mm-hmm implodes.
- 46:07And they're questioning the sister like, You told the police this.
- 46:12What were you doing?" And she was like,"I was on the phone." Yeah.
- 46:14"I was on a phone call." And Jack is like,"No, you weren't." Like, you were making babies.
- 46:20You were making babies.
- 46:21And they're like,"With who?" Uh-huh.
- 46:23And meanwhile, this, the sister's husband's also sitting at the same table.
- 46:28Mm-hmm.
- 46:28The entire family is there.
- 46:29Mm-hmm, everybody's there.
- 46:30And Jack says,"You were making babies with my daddy." And e- everybody looks at Bea's husband- Uh-huh or baby daddy- Right um, that was there.
- 46:39And he's like,"Not me." Right.
- 46:41I, I wasn't even here.
- 46:42Right.
- 46:42Like- Yeah, yeah not it.
- 46:43Not it.
- 46:44I was...
- 46:44Yeah.
- 46:45And it ends up being Kate's husband that she was sleeping with.
- 46:48So not only do we have that the son's a murderer and has lived his life like, woo.
- 46:54Right?
- 46:55His twin sister was also there during this.
- 46:57She was there covering it up, and she's obviously been affected by this her whole life because- Yeah the ending.
- 47:03So they're trying, all trying to deny everything.
- 47:07Yeah.
- 47:07And the other twin- Mm-hmm the sister says,"No, I'm not lying anymore.
- 47:13This is all true." Yeah.
- 47:16You could tell she was disturbed, though.
- 47:18Yeah.
- 47:18The way she came across, like she had a lot going on, but So basically every sister- And two of the three husbands, I don't know, like everybody had stuff that they were trying to hide, plus, plus the twins.
- 47:29Mm-hmm.
- 47:29And then it ends with, or actually it starts with, and the whole thing's kind of flashback-y, of, of a m- murder.
- 47:38Yeah.
- 47:39Well, so several murders.
- 47:41Right, yeah, true.
- 47:43So right.
- 47:44So going back, at the beginning of the book, Kate's being interviewed by the police- Mm-hmm because there was a house fire.
- 47:50Mm-hmm.
- 47:50And several people of the family died, and you don't know who died in the beginning, like- Right this whole thing.
- 47:55Right.
- 47:55So Kate was one of the survivors.
- 47:57they all go to bed that night.
- 47:58Everybody's pissed off.
- 47:59N- everybody's in their own separate areas, although Kate's husband was not with her, and, and Jack, he was- Right downstairs or wherever- Right a different room.
- 48:07And how about Tristan and Bee being together?
- 48:09Yes, I loved that.
- 48:10They still had like that- Yeah they just, you know, a lot of times trauma does that in families.
- 48:15It's just like you break apart.
- 48:17You still have that connection, but you're like,"I just can't look at you every day." Yeah, mm-hmm.
- 48:20But yeah, so in the house, this beautifully redone house- Yeah, a fire's lit.
- 48:26Yeah.
- 48:26And half of the family dies and the other half- Yeah survives.
- 48:30They jump out the window, up, down the trellis or whatever- Yeah and they survive.
- 48:33And then that's how you end it, with the police telling her who actually set the fire.
- 48:38Which was, I mean, did you see that coming?
- 48:40No, I did not.
- 48:41I didn't know who it was.
- 48:42I thought it was gonna...
- 48:43I, this is what I thought.
- 48:44I think I've been burned by so many books before.
- 48:47I thought they were gonna random- Unintended.
- 48:49Right.
- 48:50I thought they were randomly gonna introduce another character- Yeah that like where the freak did this come from?
- 48:55Yeah.
- 48:55But, good book I would recommend this book.
- 48:58I would read more by this author.
- 49:00I don't know if we have- If you've lasted this long, you've listened to all the spoilers, though.
- 49:03Yeah.
- 49:04But read it,'cause it's it's good.
- 49:06It's really interesting.
- 49:07Would you recommend this book?
- 49:08100%.
- 49:09It was different than your normal, whodunit.
- 49:11Mm-hmm.
- 49:12Um, you had like more supernaturally- Yeah vibe kind of to it.
- 49:15Unpredictable for me.
- 49:16Uh-huh.
- 49:16Yeah, me too.
- 49:17I did not see the ending.
- 49:18Right.
- 49:18You knew, you knew who was kind of giving off weird vibes.
- 49:21There was actually, like, several twists that I didn't see coming.
- 49:23So this is another spoiler.
- 49:25Yeah.
- 49:26The cop went and talked to Jack again.
- 49:28Mm-hmm.
- 49:28And do you think his memories are fading out?
- 49:31Do you think he's gonna forget some of Zach stuff?
- 49:33Oh, for sure.
- 49:34Yeah.
- 49:34Yeah, which is sad.
- 49:36And then as, the sister, right, Bea, like- The first mommy?
- 49:40Yeah.
- 49:40But they were all living together at the end, weren't they?
- 49:42Yeah, she, they had moved in with- Kate?
- 49:45Mm-hmm do you share custody?
- 49:47Like, how does that work?
- 49:47I know.
- 49:48I know.
- 49:49Yeah, no, I know.
- 49:50And do you try to encourage them to keep those memories- Yeah so you can have a piece of your kid?
- 49:54I'd be doing everything I could to- Yeah to do that.
- 49:58You know what was sad, though, is like he didn't remember Tristan or whatever the guy's name was.
- 50:01Yeah.
- 50:02The, the original father.
- 50:03Yeah.
- 50:04I think it was Tristan.
- 50:05Well, he was on the road a lot.
- 50:06Yeah, he was a, he got to travel with a lot of bands'cause he- Cold plays people and all that kind of stuff.
- 50:11Mm-hmm.
- 50:11I was, I truly though, let's go back to the very beginning when the dad dies.
- 50:16Mm-hmm.
- 50:16The whole thing was weird the whole thing with it started and then the, the girl that was with him that they thought that he was gonna marry, that whole part, I don't know if it was supposed to be a- Yeah, it was unnecessary was a red herring or...
- 50:29don't pay attention to that part if you read.
- 50:30It doesn't matter.
- 50:31Yeah.
- 50:31It doesn't mean anything.
- 50:32I think it was to show, how maybe, the sister who was the, the mom of the twins- Mm-hmm'cause she was like, We need to get her out of here." They were trying to, they were already talking about, they've already, looked into getting him committed or having- Yeah a doctor say he was crazy, and so- Insane, so whatever paperwork was- So they didn't lose any- Yeah of their money.
- 50:50Yeah.
- 50:51Could be.
- 50:52They had already, calculated out how much each child was gonna get.
- 50:55Yeah.
- 50:55So I think it was maybe to show, like, how conniving she was.
- 50:58What her mindset was.
- 50:59Mm-hmm.
- 51:00Yeah, I guess.
- 51:01It just felt so, disconnected.
- 51:03Yeah.
- 51:03But very good book.
- 51:04I would read more by him.
- 51:05Yeah, me too.
- 51:06Yeah, I liked it a lot.
- 51:07Same.
- 51:08What would you rate it?
- 51:09Do we, did we do one through 10?
- 51:11I don't remember.
- 51:12I don't either.
- 51:13I think we did.
- 51:13Okay.
- 51:14I think we did 10s.
- 51:14Now that I've said it out loud, I'd 10.
- 51:16Yeah.
- 51:17There was nothing I didn't like about this book.
- 51:19That little disconnect- Yeah not a big deal.
- 51:21I'll forgive him.
- 51:23Yeah.
- 51:23Um, well, uh, there's probably some deeper meaning like you were saying that I don't, I didn't pick up on.
- 51:27But yeah, liked it.
- 51:27How about you?
- 51:28Yeah.
- 51:28I would, same.
- 51:29Yeah.
- 51:29Like 9 1/2, 10.
- 51:30Yeah.
- 51:32Yeah.
- 51:32Good one.
- 51:32Good.
- 51:32Okay, so our next episode's gonna be a mini ep, and we will do the documentary- Yes Of Woodstock.
- 51:37We'll go deep dive into that.
- 51:38Perfect.
- 51:39And then we'll be back the following week with our full episode.
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