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President Trump returns to discuss Lindsay Graham, Iran, and more · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: Tom Cotton is with me. We were offline a little
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Speaker 1: bit talking about Lindsey Graham and Senator I was going
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Speaker 1: to come up to you and ask you about Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: Sena.
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Speaker 3: Graham had a lot of passions.
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Speaker 1: He's known for his wit and on this program in
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Speaker 1: the Senate every day, your colleague, your friend, but on
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Speaker 1: Ukraine he was particularly passionate. Do you think it makes
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Speaker 1: a difference going forward that Lindsay Graham was so committed
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Speaker 1: to defending Ukraine against Putin?
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Speaker 4: Well, Lindsa Graham was a lover of liberty wherever anyone
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Speaker 4: fought for liberty, and he had deep admiration, as I do,
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Speaker 4: for the Ukrainian people who are fighting against fighting back
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Speaker 4: against letter of Putin's unprovoked for war progression and doing
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Speaker 4: so with increasing success and bravery and skill on the battle.
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Speaker 5: Yeld of course will miss.
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Speaker 4: His voice, but I have no doubt that President Trump
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Speaker 4: and those of us who sided with Lindsay in the
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Speaker 4: Senate and the House will continue in our support of
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Speaker 4: the Ukrainian people fighting back for this worst survival against Russia,
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Speaker 4: again with increasing success. As Lindsay was pointing out just
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Speaker 4: Friday when he made his most recent trip to Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: You know, one of the remarkable things about Senator Graham.
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Speaker 1: You'll appreciated the veteran he did thirty plus years on
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Speaker 1: active duty the Guard.
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Speaker 3: And the Reserve. How many members of the Congress do that.
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Speaker 4: Not very many, Hugh, and especially once they get elected
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Speaker 4: to the House and to the Senate. I can't imagine
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Speaker 4: finding the time to do drills and do your summer
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Speaker 4: two weeks between a job plus my responsibilities as a
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Speaker 4: father and husband. But Lindsey in fact retired my first
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Speaker 4: year in the Senate after thirty years. I remember going
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Speaker 4: to his retirement ceremony that year. That's one of the
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Speaker 4: reasons why it was always such a great campion on
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Speaker 4: our troops is he was one of them, and he
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Speaker 4: had worked and lived among them for so many years.
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Speaker 1: The other great passionate is is defending Israel, and that's
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Speaker 1: increasingly unpopular on the Hill. Does Israel find another person,
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Speaker 1: You're one of them, a handful of people. Ted Cruz
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Speaker 1: is another who stand up for the Jewish State again
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Speaker 1: and again and again. But you lose a champion like that,
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Speaker 1: you've got to sort of reel backwards.
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Speaker 3: A little bit. If you're an Israel supporter, as I am.
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Speaker 4: Well, there's no question that Lindsay was one of the
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Speaker 4: great champions of the US Israel relationship. You know, they've
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Speaker 4: been our best ally now so really since World War Two,
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Speaker 4: the night that we've had against Ron and that we're
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Speaker 4: having once again now. But I'm very confident that who
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Speaker 4: ever replaced with Lindsay will share his views of the
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Speaker 4: close relationship we have with Israel and the right that
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Speaker 4: Ted Cruz and I had been outspoken advocates of that
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Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 5: For one reason, it's because our.
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Speaker 4: Voters in Arkansas and Texas and so many other states
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Speaker 4: are themselves deeply pro Israel, and they want their representatives
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Speaker 4: to support Israel because they.
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Speaker 5: Know that Israel supports the United States.
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Speaker 1: So I'm hopeful that President Trump will find to call
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Speaker 1: a time to call the program this afternoon, next hour
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Speaker 1: in fact, and I want to talk to him primarily
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Speaker 1: about Iran. What do you make of the developments with
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Speaker 1: Iran over the weekend, Center of Cotton.
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Speaker 4: I know you're shocked that Iran is not upholding the bargain.
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Speaker 4: I just have imagined this, and President Trump has poured
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Speaker 4: out many times that he was skeptical of that as well,
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Speaker 4: and I think we've all been proven correct. And as
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Speaker 4: President Trump is indicated in the past few days, he's
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Speaker 4: had it. He knows these people aren't serious even about
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Speaker 4: this modest temporary agreement. Therefore, how could you ever expect
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Speaker 4: them to strict the much larger and more comprehensive agreement
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Speaker 4: about their nuclear program. So as I'd long to say that,
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Speaker 4: I think we need to finish the job militarily, to
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Speaker 4: leave their military in a total shambles, as we've already left.
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Speaker 5: Their nuclear program.
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Speaker 4: We need to get the blockade back in place, which
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Speaker 4: the President Trump has announced he's going to do. We
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Speaker 4: need to keep the straight open military rarely so it
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Speaker 4: doesn't hurt to Americans in their pocketbook, which we have
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Speaker 4: the capability to do. And then we can consider the
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Speaker 4: matter closed, No ships will be coming enter.
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Speaker 5: Out of iron sports. Aron won't control the straight up
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Speaker 5: for moves, and they'll be weakened each.
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Speaker 4: And every day, and the people will get more and
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Speaker 4: more frustrated with their own government that has been impressing
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Speaker 4: them for forty seven years now.
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Speaker 1: I noted today that Central Command Command posted a video
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Speaker 1: of Coursairs three courtsairs, which are autonomous vehicles that drove
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Speaker 1: into an Irani and harbor blew up a submarine and
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Speaker 1: submarine pen surrounding it. Is that the future of warfare.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a remarkable bit of video.
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Speaker 4: I've seen that videos walk you. Unmanned autonomous vehicles are
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Speaker 4: of course not.
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Speaker 5: Just the future but the present.
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Speaker 4: But you're right that they're going to continue to be
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Speaker 4: used in ever greater volume.
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Speaker 5: I think there's always going to be long.
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Speaker 4: Men fighting in combat, and to include fighting on the ground,
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Speaker 4: as we see in the praying. The technological advancements are
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Speaker 4: just one more example.
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Speaker 5: Of hell.
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Speaker 4: That is the mother necessity, when necessity is the well
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Speaker 4: spring of Achen and our allies like Ukraine and Israel
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Speaker 4: had been on the front edge of this and frankly
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Speaker 4: we've learned a lot from them and benefited a lot
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Speaker 4: from them.
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Speaker 1: Are you hopeful that the IRGC will realize there is
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Speaker 1: no game, There is no endgame for them other than,
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Speaker 1: if not a complete surrender, then relinquishing of ambitions beyond
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Speaker 1: their borders. That's really what we want them to do.
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Speaker 1: We would love to see the Iranian people free, but
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Speaker 1: at a minimum, they've got us up screwed around with
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Speaker 1: the world.
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Speaker 4: You know, you think they've learned that lesson, but they're
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Speaker 4: revolutionary fanatics, so I don't anticipate they will. But what
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Speaker 4: we can do is to eliminate their ability to interfere
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Speaker 4: with the United States and our friends region and around
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Speaker 4: the world.
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Speaker 5: They may still have the intention that we can.
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Speaker 6: Largely eliminate their ability, and we do that by finishing
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Speaker 6: the job militarily against Ron, by keeping it straight open
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Speaker 6: militarily and my imposing the blockade that's bringing you run
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Speaker 6: economically to their news.
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Speaker 3: From your lips. Senator Cotton, thank you for joining me today.
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Speaker 1: I am sorry. I'm the loss of your friend, Senator Graham.
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Speaker 1: I know the Senate's a small club and very close
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Speaker 1: and I know that you and Senator Graham shared the
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Speaker 1: same agenda. So my condolences to you and everyone in
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Speaker 1: the Senate who works with Lindsay Graham.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Senator Cotton. Welcome back America.
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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, please to welcome back to the program
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Speaker 1: Ambassador Ram Emmanuel, former Ambassador to Japan for the Biden
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Speaker 1: administration before that, chief of Staff as President Obama before that,
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Speaker 1: senior member in the House leadership and mayor of Chicago
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Speaker 1: for two terms. I should add Ambassador Emmanuel, welcome back.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to take to calling you the formidable Ram
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Speaker 1: Emmanuel because I listened to you and Dan Seni. Our
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Speaker 1: arms wrestled today for an hour. I'm already tired. Are
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Speaker 1: all of your inagers that way.
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Speaker 7: Only when I'm on zero sleep?
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I want to go right to your speech
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Speaker 1: last week in Tel Aviv at Tel Aviv University.
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Speaker 3: I listened to it and I read it.
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Speaker 1: Number one observation, you mentioned Iran once in the context
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Speaker 1: of the jcpu A. I'm a supporter of Israel, not Jewish,
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Speaker 1: but I always think, if there's no Iran, there's no Hezbalah.
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Speaker 1: If there's no Iran, there's no Hamas. If there's no Iran,
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Speaker 1: there's peace in the Middle East. It's not really Israel
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Speaker 1: that's the problems Iran, isn't it.
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Speaker 7: Well, Yes and no, that's the in the Talmudic version.
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Speaker 7: Yes and no. And what I mean by that Iran
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Speaker 7: is clearly a threat.
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Speaker 8: An existential threat, not just to Israel, but to our
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Speaker 8: other allies in the Gulf region and to Europe.
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Speaker 7: You have a story today, I mean UK just.
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Speaker 8: Anounce the ir GC was clearly assassinated somebody on their
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Speaker 8: land and foster infestering anti Semitic attacks and synagogues, et cetera.
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Speaker 7: So yes, sir, a threat.
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Speaker 8: I said what I said out of care for the
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Speaker 8: countrym As you know, as I mentioned in the speech,
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Speaker 8: my uncle died in the underground in Israel, and my
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Speaker 8: father fought what worked in the underground for they were
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Speaker 8: going to fought for the creation of the state of
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Speaker 8: Israel and the war of independence.
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Speaker 7: I have been there and I support the ally.
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Speaker 8: The status quo as exists today is an unsustainable path.
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Speaker 8: Israel has allowed the other three aspects of its national
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Speaker 8: security tools and its toolbox diplomacy, economic state craft, cultural
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Speaker 8: attraction to totally atrophy. As I since you listened to it,
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Speaker 8: I gave an example and it's not just the Palestinians.
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Speaker 8: But I gave an example on Syria up front, which
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Speaker 8: has had multiple wars, specifically sixty seven and seventy three.
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Speaker 8: You have a president an I'm a sad president said
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Speaker 8: that we have you said about Israel.
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Speaker 7: We have a common enemy in Iran. That's the trade
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Speaker 7: route from Iran to Hesbela.
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Speaker 8: He wants to do in a security agreement, you get
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Speaker 8: peace to this Galilee and.
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Speaker 7: Security of mind for the Galiley resident. Even the President
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Speaker 7: of the United States has been there.
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Speaker 8: The late Lindsay Graham, I think just last week said
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Speaker 8: we need to recalibrate the way we approach Syria. Here
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Speaker 8: he has called for a security agreement with Israel. Go
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Speaker 8: I'll give you my AT and T calling card. Call Okay,
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Speaker 8: this is my point. Is my point is Israel? You
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Speaker 8: know you know the old joke you which is even
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Speaker 8: paranoid people have enemies.
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Speaker 7: It has real enemies. You could not only neutralize an enemy.
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Speaker 7: You don't have to have resources.
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Speaker 8: And intelligence dedicated there when you have a problem with Hesbelah,
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Speaker 8: you have a problem with Iran, and you could be
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Speaker 8: focused other ways and be it would.
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Speaker 7: Project Israel to the rest of the world. That is
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Speaker 7: not no, it was just how to fly thirty five.
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Speaker 8: But act and you made peace. You made many court Zakrabin.
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Speaker 8: Zacrabin always said to this, and I think it's true.
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Speaker 8: You make peace as if there's no terror, and you
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Speaker 8: fight terror as if those peace. And the Prime minister
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Speaker 8: has only done one of those two and he's made
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Speaker 8: Israel a pariah around the globe.
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Speaker 1: Well, that was one of the objections the prior around
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Speaker 1: the world from the commentary podcast. And I really hope
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Speaker 1: you sit down with pod Hortz and Seth and with
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Speaker 1: Abe Greenwald and with Matt Continetty, because they did an
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Speaker 1: entire hour on your speech last week.
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Speaker 3: Let me run through.
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Speaker 1: Let me run through some of their objections and I'll
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Speaker 1: come back to my commentary.
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Speaker 8: Let me let me say this, Not even my family
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Speaker 8: would give me twenty minutes of objections an hour.
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Speaker 7: That's a lot of hour.
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Speaker 1: Oh, and they could have kept going. Number one was
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Speaker 1: Israel's not isolated. Prime Minister Modi was just there. It's
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Speaker 1: the world's largest democracy.
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Speaker 3: They're tight.
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Speaker 1: Uae is a friend, of course, Bahrain is a friend.
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Speaker 1: Egypt has a cold piece, Jordan has a semi cold piece.
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Speaker 1: There are countries around the world that deal with Israel,
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Speaker 1: so you were overstating that number. Objection number two from
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Speaker 1: JPod you said that the United States has blindly supported
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Speaker 1: unite Israel. He said, what the hell is he talking about?
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Speaker 1: In forty eight his father had to fight with check weapons.
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Speaker 1: In fifty six, I basically hit him with a hammer.
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Speaker 1: Clinton was back and forth. Biden Harris said the bear hug.
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Speaker 1: And you remember Kamala Harris saying I've read the maps,
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Speaker 1: don't go into Rafa. It hasn't really been unqualified support
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Speaker 1: until maybe Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: And he's beaten up on Beebie.
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Speaker 8: Now, okay, so objection number one about isolation, let's just
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Speaker 8: deal with it.
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Speaker 7: Yes, Indian mode, he was there.
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Speaker 8: Sixty percent of Israel's exports are in Europe. Your scientists
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Speaker 8: can't go to any conferences, and they have more Nobel
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Speaker 8: science winners than any other country on a per capita basis,
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Speaker 8: they can't go. Israel feels isolated from traveling and capacity
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Speaker 8: to go around the world.
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Speaker 7: And financially there.
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Speaker 8: The United States has an allies in NATO which is
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Speaker 8: above sixty percent. I just came from Japan, as you noted,
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Speaker 8: as Ambassador Japan is very popular in the United States.
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Speaker 8: This is the only ally at the low thirties and
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Speaker 8: among kids under thirty in the twenties. That is not
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Speaker 8: a sustainable political path for the State of Israel, and
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Speaker 8: it's not a financial stated path when you've lost Europe.
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Speaker 7: Remember, while four percent.
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Speaker 8: Of the economy or staff is Israel's population is in
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Speaker 8: the tech community, sixty percent of their exports go to Europe,
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Speaker 8: which is hostile.
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Speaker 7: And if you think that's sustainable, then you are not
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Speaker 7: listening to.
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Speaker 8: How the Israelis are talking about it because they do
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Speaker 8: feel isolated.
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Speaker 7: Wait Acond, you asked me a question, I'm going to
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Speaker 7: go through it.
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Speaker 8: You that is a political and economic and financial isolation.
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Speaker 8: You're not going to survive yourself just on Bahrain or Guatemala.
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Speaker 8: No disrespect to Bahrain and no disrespect to Guatemala. Israel
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Speaker 8: has problems in Australia, Canada, United States and Europe.
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Speaker 7: They picked up Somaliland.
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Speaker 8: And if you want to sit there and put your
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Speaker 8: head in the sand, not you specifically the other people on.
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Speaker 7: The podcast, go ahead, but the Israelis.
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Speaker 8: If you listen to them, feel pushed upon it and
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Speaker 8: isolated around the world. I am trying to give a
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Speaker 8: plan outside of the status quo, to break out of
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Speaker 8: the pariah status. Your people, businesses, scientists, cultural institutions cannot
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Speaker 8: participate in the global economy that they feel they're a
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Speaker 8: part of. One is I gave a political strategy on
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Speaker 8: the twenty three state solution that gives you twenty one
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Speaker 8: nations that would all have automatically recognized Israel. Second, with
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Speaker 8: the IMEC on the economic corridor between India through the
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Speaker 8: Middle East into Europe, your technological prowess would be accentuated,
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Speaker 8: and it will put you in the most dead center
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Speaker 8: of the most important trade route in the world. That
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Speaker 8: is a breakout moment that has huge economic, political, and
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Speaker 8: strategy value for the state of Israel.
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Speaker 7: Nothing I said was that the harm of Israel was
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Speaker 7: how to address.
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Speaker 8: The problems that have occurred specifically under this Prime Minister,
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Speaker 8: and I have been consistent in that observation.
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Speaker 1: So John's answer to that was he suggested that your
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Speaker 1: plan was a noble attempt to come up with a
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Speaker 1: new way forward, but that it's not dealing with reality.
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Speaker 1: And I got to go to the break here, and
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Speaker 1: we'll talk during the break and we'll come back with
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Speaker 1: Ambassador Emmanuel. I will set the table though for you
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Speaker 1: to think about it.
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Speaker 3: He said.
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Speaker 1: Actually, this is Matt Continetti saying Rob Emmanuel wants to
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Speaker 1: be the Secretary of State in the next Democratic administration
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't get the nomination. But he's not Platin
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Speaker 1: or he's not lsay ed. He is calling for the
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Speaker 1: ending of Middle East military aid and he wants to
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Speaker 1: sanction West Bank Israelis. When we come back from break,
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Speaker 1: I want to give you five minutes to answer, Matt,
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Speaker 1: because his bottom line was the twenty three state solution
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Speaker 1: is great, but where's the Palestinian state? They your boss
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Speaker 1: offered it to him and they rejected it twice. So
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Speaker 1: where is the fabled Palestinian state. I'll be right back
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Speaker 1: with Ron Emmanuel. They'll tell us the answer to that
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Speaker 1: fable state. So, Rob Emmanuel, where is that fabled Palestinian state?
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Speaker 3: Let me get a solution.
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Speaker 8: Let me just go through this is Since President Clinton
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Speaker 8: was quite on our conversation, quite complimentary of He says,
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Speaker 8: you finally got figured out the political equation.
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Speaker 7: I wish I had thought of this. Wait a second,
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Speaker 7: I'm not going to let you.
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Speaker 8: Guys sit there and change what I said the first
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Speaker 8: half was about the corruption in not first half. First
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Speaker 8: paragraph I mentioned the Palestinian corruption. The first quarter of
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Speaker 8: the speech is that you were offered three separate times
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Speaker 8: ninety eight percent of what you wanted, and the Palestinians
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Speaker 8: not only rejected it in Camp David, you returned with
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Speaker 8: violence and killing Israeli civilians. Two thousand and seven, Etho
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Speaker 8: to Omark offered you this same kind of plan, and
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Speaker 8: you not only rejected by Abbas your terrorism. You actually
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Speaker 8: after Oslo, responded to with terrorism Disney off Street, Ben
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Speaker 8: you hit the market.
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Speaker 7: That was the beginning part of the speech.
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Speaker 8: And to those that was celebrated on October eighth, what
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Speaker 8: happened to both the murders and the sexual abuse and
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Speaker 8: violence and raping of women, you are morally bankrupt.
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Speaker 7: That was the first quarter you heard the speech, am
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Speaker 7: I said, clinking it that I did not say.
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Speaker 2: Okay? Number two?
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Speaker 8: Right, okay, wait a second, and I mentioned the Palestinians
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Speaker 8: had rejected, not just politically rejected, but then responded with violence.
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Speaker 7: I put that on them. Number three.
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Speaker 8: What's difference if you don't learn your lesson between nineteen
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Speaker 8: nineties and now, is that for the first time the
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Speaker 8: Gulf Nations and the rest of the air world are
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Speaker 8: part of the global economy, which wasn't true back then.
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Speaker 8: They were just petro states. Today, Dubai as a financial center,
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Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia is trying to catch up and replace both
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Speaker 8: on the cultural side, the sports side, and the financial
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Speaker 8: centerpiece of it. They have a bested strategic and economic
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Speaker 8: interest for stability. They offered this plan to early twenty
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Speaker 8: twenty thirteen, they reiterated Saudi Arabia was the sponsor of
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Speaker 8: this Arab League plan of twenty one nations diplomatic relations
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Speaker 8: with Israel. I called them out. I said, stop offering
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Speaker 8: lip service. It's your plan. You get on the field
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Speaker 8: and you produce a Palestinian partner. They don't get us
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Speaker 8: delivering Israel and get to fold their hand and wait,
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Speaker 8: you want a Palestinian sovereignty. You want quiet and stability
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Speaker 8: in your backyard. Sweat equity, baby, pick up the oar,
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Speaker 8: let's go. I'm calling you out. Your plan, good plan,
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Speaker 8: and I think the Arab League would come because they
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Speaker 8: want they want stability more than they want anything.
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Speaker 7: Else, and they want us quieted down.
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Speaker 3: Wait, you asked another Wait a second, you got another
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Speaker 3: minute to the break.
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Speaker 8: Okay, on the weapons twenty twenty one, Ambassador Michael Orrin
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Speaker 8: from the State of Israel twenty twenty one, five years
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Speaker 8: ago called for the end.
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Speaker 7: Of the US financial aid on weapons. Number two. The
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister just called for it. Number three.
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Speaker 8: I mentioned in the speech you keep the qualitative edge.
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Speaker 8: What is it that is so bad about the what
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Speaker 8: I just said that they was good enough for the
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Speaker 8: Israeli ambassador and good enough for the Israeli Prime Minister,
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Speaker 8: but not good enough for the panel you just listened to.
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Speaker 7: Maybe they should think a little.
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Speaker 3: I really hope they should observe the.
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Speaker 8: Fact that maybe they should observe the fact that Donald
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Speaker 8: Trump just did a military package and he didn't go
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Speaker 8: to the Senate because he can't get the votes.
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Speaker 1: I hope you do the commentary reality not a podcast
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Speaker 1: when we're coming back on the broadcast, So I'm going
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Speaker 1: to go to my objection. Stay tuned, Welcome back in America.
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Speaker 1: I continued talking with Ambassador rom and Manuel. Ambassador Emmanuel
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Speaker 1: I host on this program weekly Doctor Orin. I often
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Speaker 1: have an Aviv ready, gore Na, Dave All and Meet
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Speaker 1: Segal I cover journalists from Israel and They all agree
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Speaker 1: with you about settler violence. It must be punished, it
19:12
Speaker 1: must be ended. However, when an American goes to Tel
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Speaker 1: Aviv and does that, even an American who was born
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Speaker 1: of an Iragun fighter or a resistance underground uncle and
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Speaker 1: says too much Westbank violent. And you've been the mayor
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Speaker 1: of Chicago. You had four hundred and fifty one murders
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Speaker 1: a year in Chicago. You had between nineteen and twenty
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Speaker 1: thousand violent gun shots when you were mayor of Chicago.
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Speaker 1: Where do we and I don't mean just you, I
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Speaker 1: mean any American get off arguing about Israel's violence, which
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Speaker 1: they do try and police, when we've got a much
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Speaker 1: bigger violence program.
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Speaker 8: Well, we do have a violence problem. And I dealt
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Speaker 8: with it every night. When you join me next to
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Speaker 8: the side of a parent who's got a child wounded,
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Speaker 8: for a family who has an officer that's the hospital,
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Speaker 8: and I've been by their bedside, I dealt with it.
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Speaker 8: I made my mistakes, but I fought it every day
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Speaker 8: to make sure that every neighborhood, at every community, so
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Speaker 8: a kid can walk to school safely, not thinking about
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Speaker 8: their safety, but thinking about their studies and doesn't mean
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Speaker 8: that if you're waiting me to basically have a perfect
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Speaker 8: record before I accept the fact that you said that
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Speaker 8: they oppose it not true. You you have government officials,
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Speaker 8: members of the cabinet, members that controlled the Israeli police
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Speaker 8: that are actually perpetuating in the spirit of a greater Israel.
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Speaker 8: That is just not true what you just said and are.
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Speaker 8: It's not a government that is turning a blind eye.
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Speaker 8: Actually they're complicit in advancing the settler violence. And there
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Speaker 8: as members of the Israeli security one hundred former generals,
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Speaker 8: one members of the both the Masala and shin Bet
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Speaker 8: called on the government to stop this. Nothing I said
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Speaker 8: has not been said directly as Michael laur and I
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Speaker 8: just said to you about the weapons and the Prime
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Speaker 8: minister or on the violence in the West Bank. There
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Speaker 8: as members of the Israeli security establishment and retirees who
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Speaker 8: have called out the government for being exactly what I said, complicit. Now,
21:17
Speaker 8: they may not go as far as the sanctions piece
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Speaker 8: that I went through, but they understand how it undermines
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Speaker 8: the Jewish democratic state, and in a time in which
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Speaker 8: Israel's under international pressure, of which the podcast you called
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Speaker 8: for doesn't seem to think that it's.
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Speaker 7: Isolated, which would be news to the Israelis.
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Speaker 8: They have a sense that, in fact their own government
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Speaker 8: has perpetuated this type of violence on farmland, on families,
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Speaker 8: and on other territories, and never have you had this
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Speaker 8: level of settlements that would undermine not only the potential
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Speaker 8: for a two state solution, but actually would actually advance
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Speaker 8: the idea of a greater Israel. Now, look, you don't
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Speaker 8: like my plan, I'm okay with that, But everybody you've
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Speaker 8: quoted in yourself, you're just giving me more of the
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Speaker 8: status quote, and that's going to lead Israel over the
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Speaker 8: next twenty two years.
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Speaker 7: Over a cliff.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not.
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Speaker 1: Is not sustainable. You can't sustainably. You have to destroy
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Speaker 1: the Islamic report.
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Speaker 8: Oh okay, well, let's let's do something here, because I've
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Speaker 8: been thinking about this, says I can't sleep on a plane,
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Speaker 8: get away from just the strait of her moves.
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Speaker 7: Today, a couple tautomic.
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Speaker 8: Shifts are happening that I think are valuable that look
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Speaker 8: around the corner.
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Speaker 7: Both immediate rather mid, mid time and long.
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Speaker 8: Term Iran's proxies, Syria gone humas massively degraded, hesblah.
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Speaker 7: Cornered and feeling the pressure and the degradation.
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Speaker 8: And in Iraq, I don't have everything, but based on
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Speaker 8: my reading, something is going on as it relates to
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Speaker 8: the central government and the proxies. So one of the
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Speaker 8: big components at a way I RAN projected power was
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Speaker 8: using those proxies, and every one of them are now
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Speaker 8: less than they were, and some of them are totally going,
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Speaker 8: like Syria. Two the Gulf countries that used to be
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Speaker 8: a united force are breaking.
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Speaker 7: You have a Saudi lead, Saudi Turkey, Katar.
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Speaker 8: Excuse me, and then you have a Bahrain, Ua Kuwait
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Speaker 8: and you can probably add Pakistan and Egypt to the
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Speaker 8: other one. To me, those teutonic plates shifting both between
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Speaker 8: the proxies happening in the golf really impact how you
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Speaker 8: approach Iran. The leverage we have today on Iran, which
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Speaker 8: I happened to think this war was a massive mistake,
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Speaker 8: and I can go through the pluses and minuses, but
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Speaker 8: also compared to Jcboa is the fact is we have
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Speaker 8: financial leverage over a broken government financially and an economy
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Speaker 8: that's literally on its back. That's the leverage we have
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Speaker 8: and we have to use it to advance our interests.
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Speaker 3: Well, I've got you.
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Speaker 1: If I can keep you for six more minutes, I
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Speaker 1: want to hear you expand on how we do that,
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Speaker 1: because I don't think there's a massive mistake. I think
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Speaker 1: it's finally cleaning up for the massive mistakes of twenty
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Speaker 1: five years. Vis to be Iran, but stay tuned Roman.
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Speaker 1: Manuel may Or may not be on the other side.
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Speaker 5: Of the break.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to America.
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Speaker 1: Here's the conclusion I interviewed with Ambassador ram and Manuel,
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Speaker 1: which we did during the break because he's on a
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Speaker 1: heart out. Here's the conclusion I did during the break. So,
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Speaker 1: Ambassador Connel, President Trump has obliterated three out of the
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Speaker 1: four nuclear sites. He's coming up after you. By the way,
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Speaker 1: he's on next hour. I'm gonna ask him about the
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Speaker 1: fourth nuclear site. Pick action way he's not on next
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Speaker 1: out nuclear now him to obliterate that too? How is
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Speaker 1: that a mistake? That thing we've done as president?
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Speaker 7: Okay, one thing, Hugh, you've been in government, I've been. Look.
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Speaker 8: The only decisions you get in the oval are bad
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Speaker 8: and worse. You don't get good in bad. I do
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Speaker 8: a line down the middle of the page on the
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Speaker 8: JCPOA you had Russia and China on the American side
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Speaker 8: enforcing something. Now they're on backing up Iran and supplying
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Speaker 8: the weapons and the intelligence to kill Americans. Two, you
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Speaker 8: had international inspectors on the ground in JCBA, they're out here.
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Speaker 8: Three you had the iranium out of Iran. The iranium
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Speaker 8: is in Iran. For the iranium was at three percent.
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Speaker 8: Today it's up to ninety percent. Five you have open
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Speaker 8: straight of her moves. Today you have a closed straight
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Speaker 8: of moves. And the Iran has a nuclear option, not
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Speaker 8: just nuclear material. I go through each of those pieces,
26:09
Speaker 8: and when you evaluate the JCPOA over this piece of
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Speaker 8: that is a military effort, which George Bush, Barack Obama,
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Speaker 8: Trump one point zero and Joe Biden all rejected. While
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Speaker 8: JCPOA had, as I said in the speech, it had
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Speaker 8: its pluses and minuses, was a better option, and in fact,
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Speaker 8: members of the Israeli security establishment saw its value and
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Speaker 8: see this, and Israel today sees this. You think it's
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Speaker 8: the greatest thing since we started this conversation about Israel.
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Speaker 8: Israel sees many elements of the Israeli security see it
26:45
Speaker 8: is a disaster for them.
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Speaker 7: From a security standpoint.
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Speaker 8: You have an emboldened Iran that was in the before
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Speaker 8: fighting with its own people and killing them to stay
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Speaker 8: in power. You have an emboldened, confident Iran with control
26:56
Speaker 8: of the Strait and hermus and Israel is. Israel's northern
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Speaker 8: order is determined by whether the straitor for moves is
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Speaker 8: open or not, not by owned ability to defend itself.
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Speaker 1: Mister Massiwell, they murdered forty thousand people, but know they
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Speaker 1: get involved and the inspectors that you brought up in
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Speaker 1: the speech and that you brought up with Dan Senor
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Speaker 1: they weren't allowed in the Pickaxe Mountain, they weren't allowed
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Speaker 1: in the photo or they were crippled by the JCPOA.
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Speaker 1: It was a sham agreement. I want to give him
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Speaker 1: last word to you.
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Speaker 8: Okay, they did kill forty thousand people. They've had five
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Speaker 8: uprisings in twelve years. In each uprising they had to
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Speaker 8: kill more people. In the last lie rising they killed
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Speaker 8: the most people forty thousand, fifty thousand, But it was
27:39
Speaker 8: the first uprising where the youth and the merchant class
27:44
Speaker 8: were combined. One thing I know about politics, when your
27:48
Speaker 8: opponent is involved in a night fight with themselves, don't
27:50
Speaker 8: get in the middle of it. You're going to get
27:52
Speaker 8: regime change from the streets of Tehran, from the skies
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Speaker 8: of Teyron. And if you want to see the end
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Speaker 8: of this administration, you don't do it from bombing.
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Speaker 7: You let him.
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Speaker 8: Basically, there was no legitimacy from the Iranian society with
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Speaker 8: the Igrainian government.
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Speaker 7: That's how you get regime change.
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Speaker 1: Formidable, Ambassador Rob Emmanuel, your new nickname is the Formidable
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Speaker 1: around Emmanuel. Thank you for joining me. Keep coming back.
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed do the commentary podcast. Do the commentary podcast.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. Ron.
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Speaker 1: Join us by President Donald Trump. Mister President, welcome back
28:27
Speaker 1: to the Hue Hewitt Show. Thank you. I want to
28:30
Speaker 1: begin by saying, I'm sorry you've lost your friend, Lindsey Graham.
28:34
Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you on the two hundred and
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Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary of the country on the Mall and your speech.
28:39
Speaker 1: And I want to especially thank you for raising with
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Speaker 1: General Secretary Jujuen ping Jimmy Lyon pastor mingre the pastors
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Speaker 1: in the United States. Do you think it would help
28:50
Speaker 1: get Jimmy Laie out if Pope Leo spoke up for
28:53
Speaker 1: Jimmy Lai.
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Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't think so.
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Speaker 2: I had a long talk with the with the president
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Speaker 2: she and he expressed great dislike.
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Speaker 9: He said.
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Speaker 2: Very nicely. He kept me up at night. You know.
29:07
Speaker 2: They had a lot of problems there, and I guess
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Speaker 2: at some point I'll speak to the Sun, but he
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Speaker 2: he's got a lot of dislike there. I got the
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Speaker 2: other one out, as you know, Yes you did, and
29:18
Speaker 2: that was good. But I'm having a little problem with Jimmy.
29:22
Speaker 2: We've gotten a lot from China. China has been good.
29:24
Speaker 2: We got TikTok approved, as you know, and it's good.
29:27
Speaker 2: I was number one on TikTok this month, which was
29:29
Speaker 2: very good. But I got a lot of things from China,
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Speaker 2: including we're taking in.
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Speaker 9: A lot of money from China.
29:34
Speaker 2: But Jimmy, I didn't do as well with.
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Speaker 3: Frankly, well, you don't give up. I hope you keep trying.
29:40
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give up.
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Speaker 9: No, no, no, I'm not going to give up.
29:42
Speaker 2: But you know, look, they did have a problem with
29:46
Speaker 2: Hong Kong. Let's face it, you yeah, we had that
29:49
Speaker 2: was a pretty that was a pretty nasty situation. So
29:52
Speaker 2: you could also understand the other side a little bit.
29:54
Speaker 9: But nope, I never give up.
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Speaker 1: All right, let me talk about it wrong. Iron broke
29:58
Speaker 1: the first ceasefire. They another one over the weekend. You
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Speaker 1: have obliterated three of their nuclear sites, but they got
30:04
Speaker 1: a force sight maybe at Pickaxe Mountain.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, before before you enter into another.
30:09
Speaker 1: Deal, will you insist that IAEA inspectors get down into
30:13
Speaker 1: that deep, deep, deep tunnel and find out if they
30:16
Speaker 1: got a doomstay machine down there.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they don't have it, because we have eyes, you know,
30:21
Speaker 2: with the with Space Force and everything else, we have
30:24
Speaker 2: a lot of eyes on it. But Pickaxe is a.
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Speaker 9: Possible, you know, a possible target for a.
30:31
Speaker 2: Nice big fat shot right into the front door. And
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Speaker 2: I think you'll maybe you'll see that. I'll tell them
30:37
Speaker 2: right now. Look, the fact is they have no air force,
30:39
Speaker 2: they have no navy, they have no nothing. All they
30:42
Speaker 2: do is talk and.
30:42
Speaker 9: They have fake press.
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Speaker 2: They do very well with the fake press, but they
30:46
Speaker 2: do because the.
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Speaker 9: Fake news wants us to lose.
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Speaker 2: It's not even I mean the New York Times they
30:52
Speaker 2: actually said a week ago.
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Speaker 9: I don't can't imagine they say it now, but think
30:56
Speaker 9: of it.
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Speaker 2: They have no navy, have no air force, have no anything.
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Speaker 2: They have no military. They have nothing, and the time said,
31:03
Speaker 2: and they're inflation, by the way, just hit three hundred
31:05
Speaker 2: and one.
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Speaker 9: Percent from five percent.
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Speaker 2: They said, Oh, they're in better shape now than they
31:09
Speaker 2: were four months ago before I started.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the fake media always brings up Pickaxe Mountain,
31:14
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's not on your list. I
31:16
Speaker 1: think it's on your list, and you're.
31:17
Speaker 2: Telling you we're watching it's loosely. We see no activity there.
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Speaker 9: They're not doing well with their nuclear situation.
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Speaker 2: Every time we hear about it, we blow it up,
31:27
Speaker 2: so they don't like talking about it. But we'll probably
31:29
Speaker 2: give pick Axe a shot relatively soon.
31:33
Speaker 3: Good.
31:33
Speaker 1: Now, you know, the Iranians will never this regime, the
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Speaker 1: crazy people, and they are fanatics, the religious fins.
31:39
Speaker 3: They will never stop.
31:40
Speaker 1: Trying to kill you and your family and blow up
31:43
Speaker 1: your library. Do you think you've got to get that
31:45
Speaker 1: regime out of there in the next thirty months.
31:48
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're a little cuckoo. I think they
31:50
Speaker 2: all are. We knocked out the first regime, we then
31:52
Speaker 2: knocked out the second regime. We then took out about
31:55
Speaker 2: twenty five percent of this regime, and they're wired a
31:59
Speaker 2: little bit different. We had a deal yesterday. It was
32:02
Speaker 2: like going to be one hundred percent, and then all
32:04
Speaker 2: of a sudden they got a phone call and they
32:07
Speaker 2: all ran out of the room. These people are These
32:09
Speaker 2: people are crazy. We had a deal where we won everything,
32:13
Speaker 2: and they basically break the deals. You know, they make deals,
32:17
Speaker 2: and to them deals they're made to be broken. They
32:20
Speaker 2: are extremely unreliable people. And frankly, if they've had a
32:26
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, they'd use it within one day.
32:28
Speaker 3: Amen.
32:29
Speaker 1: Can you or the American military or the Israeli military
32:33
Speaker 1: get to what's left of their third string and their
32:35
Speaker 1: fourth string and their fifth string, you know where they are?
32:37
Speaker 3: Can you kill them?
32:38
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do, and but we don't want to talk
32:39
Speaker 2: about that, but okay, we certainly are watching. Yeah, I
32:44
Speaker 2: know a lot about that subjects. I know a lot,
32:46
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's appropriate to talk about it
32:48
Speaker 2: right now.
32:49
Speaker 9: But we will.
32:51
Speaker 2: We will be hitting them, like as an example, we're
32:53
Speaker 2: gonna hit them very hard tonight, and we're going to
32:57
Speaker 2: hit them hard tomorrow. And there's not a damn thing
33:00
Speaker 2: they can do about it. They have nothing, they have
33:01
Speaker 2: nothing going other than they have big mouths. And I
33:04
Speaker 2: keep president that I did because I got to.
33:07
Speaker 3: Know them bucket and.
33:10
Speaker 9: It's a lot better.
33:10
Speaker 2: You know, people say I was at least reasonable, but
33:13
Speaker 2: I got to know them, and they're stone cold crazy people.
33:16
Speaker 3: Yes they are fanatic.
33:18
Speaker 1: Now, the nou buckled, and I thought of that high
33:20
Speaker 1: rise on forty second Street where the columns buckled. By
33:23
Speaker 1: the way, what did you think when you saw that story?
33:25
Speaker 1: That high rise columns are buckling.
33:28
Speaker 2: So I know a lot about buildings, more than anything
33:31
Speaker 2: in the presidency by a factor of about two thousand.
33:34
Speaker 2: And I looked at that structure. That structure was not
33:37
Speaker 2: meant to be to have that much weight added to it.
33:41
Speaker 2: Not only that if you look at it, because I
33:43
Speaker 2: looked at renderings and the structure was added on the side.
33:47
Speaker 2: It was the craziest thing. And you know, that was
33:49
Speaker 2: probably a US building. And I knew the US family well,
33:52
Speaker 2: but they were known for light structures, as light as
33:55
Speaker 2: they could do it not to fall down. But they
33:58
Speaker 2: weren't designed for putting ten stories of building on top.
34:01
Speaker 2: But the building wasn't even on top of you, do
34:03
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It was like side saddle.
34:06
Speaker 2: It was a side saddle, all that weight and they're
34:09
Speaker 2: lucky it didn't come down. I don't know what they're
34:11
Speaker 2: doing right now, but they should not be allowed. I
34:14
Speaker 2: don't know the people, but they should not be allowed.
34:17
Speaker 2: I can't believe they had a structural engineer because they
34:20
Speaker 2: should not be allowed to It's called the side saddle.
34:24
Speaker 2: They should not be allowed to do that on that building.
34:26
Speaker 2: That building is a weak structure. It's designed, it's designed.
34:30
Speaker 9: It's a very light structure.
34:32
Speaker 3: You know the MoU designed that way. He was a
34:36
Speaker 3: white structure.
34:38
Speaker 2: You have some structural engineers. They put you out of
34:40
Speaker 2: business with a heavy structure. The good news is it'll
34:44
Speaker 2: never fall down. The bad news is you got a
34:46
Speaker 2: business because it goes. This guy gave you a minimal
34:51
Speaker 2: structure to hold up the existing not a structure to
34:54
Speaker 2: hold up another ten stories of building. But the fact
34:57
Speaker 2: that the building wasn't even balanced, I can't it's amazing
35:01
Speaker 2: that it didn't come down.
35:03
Speaker 1: Well, was the m ou that your negotiators brought back?
35:06
Speaker 1: Was that side saddle MoU? Is that built a fall apart?
35:11
Speaker 2: It was built to test.
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Speaker 9: It was a test. We didn't know.
35:14
Speaker 2: It didn't look memorandum of understanding with when you're dealing
35:18
Speaker 2: with sleeves, bags don't mean much and they don't mean
35:22
Speaker 2: much when you're dealing with honorable people too. Because it's
35:24
Speaker 2: a memorandum of understanding, it doesn't mean much. And I said,
35:27
Speaker 2: why are we even You know, it's a standard tactic
35:30
Speaker 2: in the US that you go to a memorandum of
35:33
Speaker 2: understanding and then you go to the deal.
35:35
Speaker 9: I said, just go to the deal first.
35:36
Speaker 2: But you know what, it was sort of a test
35:39
Speaker 2: and they weren't there.
35:40
Speaker 9: They didn't honor the test.
35:41
Speaker 2: We had it, We had this deal settled numerous times.
35:44
Speaker 2: I said, watch, I guarantee watch.
35:47
Speaker 9: And they never they never followed it. They a bunch
35:50
Speaker 9: of look much of a bunch.
35:53
Speaker 1: Of Israeli journalists are saying that you've undercut baby, You've
35:56
Speaker 1: thrown them under the bus.
35:57
Speaker 3: Have you?
35:58
Speaker 9: No, not at all.
35:59
Speaker 10: No.
35:59
Speaker 2: I get along with him very well. Sometimes I disagree
36:02
Speaker 2: with him. I let it be known, and I've been right.
36:05
Speaker 2: But no, I think he's good. Look he's a wartime
36:08
Speaker 2: prime minister. He's done a good job. If I were
36:11
Speaker 2: Totick around, or if BB wasn't around, especially the combination
36:16
Speaker 2: Israel would not exist today. We wouldn't have hit him
36:18
Speaker 2: with a b two bombers. You know, they were going
36:20
Speaker 2: to have a nuclear weapon within two weeks. Had I
36:24
Speaker 2: not hit him with a nuclear within two to four weeks,
36:27
Speaker 2: they would have had a nuclear weapon. And once they
36:29
Speaker 2: had a nuclear weapon, they would have used it, and
36:31
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even have Israel ren No BB's good.
36:34
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in Israel better than him to do
36:36
Speaker 1: the job? Is there anyone better than BB?
36:40
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know most of them. I know some
36:42
Speaker 2: of them obviously, but I don't know most of them.
36:45
Speaker 2: But I think that BB and I have had a
36:47
Speaker 2: very good If we weren't working together, if BB wasn't,
36:51
Speaker 2: if I had a weak person the president or prime
36:55
Speaker 2: minister over in Israel, you don't have a president there too.
36:58
Speaker 2: If we had somebody over there, Israel would not exist today.
37:04
Speaker 1: So Hamas is still standing, So it says Malas should
37:07
Speaker 1: be be order, that those be done that way with
37:09
Speaker 1: just finish the job in Gaza and in Lebanon.
37:12
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of progress was made with Hamas and
37:15
Speaker 2: they are disarming. That doesn't mean they're going to but
37:18
Speaker 2: a lot of progress was made. And don't forget I
37:20
Speaker 2: got all the hostages back and Hamas did a lot
37:23
Speaker 2: of that work. You know, people are amazed but we had.
37:27
Speaker 9: Twenty eight dead people dead, you know.
37:31
Speaker 2: Children because they call them children, the mom the moms
37:33
Speaker 2: and dads, and it always made it always amazed.
37:36
Speaker 9: It shouldn't amaze me.
37:37
Speaker 2: But the people that had a dead son and they
37:40
Speaker 2: knew the son was dead, they wanted that boy back
37:44
Speaker 2: just as much or even more as the people that
37:46
Speaker 2: were trying to get their sons out who were living.
37:48
Speaker 9: It was amazing.
37:50
Speaker 2: And we got all twenty eight back, every single one
37:52
Speaker 2: of them, and everyone's amazed. And we got Hamas to
37:56
Speaker 2: do much of that work.
37:57
Speaker 1: So let me ask you about the the Iranian people.
38:02
Speaker 1: You said help was on the way, and you sent it.
38:04
Speaker 1: Forty thousand of them got mass could before your help
38:07
Speaker 1: could get there. Is it time for them to go
38:09
Speaker 1: back into the streets.
38:10
Speaker 2: Well, you can't do that because they don't have guns
38:13
Speaker 2: and the other side has guns. And the number is
38:16
Speaker 2: fifty two thousand people killed so far.
38:18
Speaker 9: Wow, and these are thugs.
38:21
Speaker 2: It's very hard for people to go back. They can
38:23
Speaker 2: have great bravado, they can hate the regime, they can
38:26
Speaker 2: do everything, but when you start seeing people dropping a
38:30
Speaker 2: little bit left and right, you know they have snipers,
38:32
Speaker 2: and the snipers are up and building four or five
38:35
Speaker 2: of them. And let's say they form one hundred two
38:38
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people, and they see one go down with
38:41
Speaker 2: a bullet between the eyes, and then they see another
38:44
Speaker 2: one go down with a bullet between the eyes, and
38:47
Speaker 2: then they see a third. Like with the women, they
38:49
Speaker 2: have three hundred thousand women. All of a sudden, one
38:52
Speaker 2: goes down, two goes down, three, four or five. And
38:56
Speaker 2: you know what happens you They say, let's get the
38:59
Speaker 2: hell out of here. It's very scary.
39:01
Speaker 3: So let me switch to domestic talk.
39:03
Speaker 2: Wait, say this, I think people were wrong.
39:06
Speaker 9: I never thought unless.
39:08
Speaker 2: They could be completely armed, I never thought they'd have
39:11
Speaker 2: that kind of an uprising because these people are violent.
39:14
Speaker 2: The so called leadership is very violent. They killed fifty
39:19
Speaker 2: two thousand. How about the wrestler. You know, the wrestler
39:21
Speaker 2: is one of the best wrestlers in the world. They
39:24
Speaker 2: killed him and his two friends just because he.
39:26
Speaker 9: Spoke not even that badly about the regime.
39:29
Speaker 1: They're crazy. Keep killing them because they're going to kill
39:31
Speaker 1: their people. Until you do domestic politics, mister president, you run,
39:36
Speaker 1: or at least the RNC listens to you very closely.
39:39
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight, do you think.
39:41
Speaker 2: There ought to be one listen, Yeah, do you.
39:43
Speaker 1: Think there ought to be one? Many or a lot
39:47
Speaker 1: of debates? And would you moderate one or more of
39:49
Speaker 1: those debates?
39:50
Speaker 2: Listen, I'd sort of like to do that. Nobody gave
39:54
Speaker 2: me that when you always have a unique way, I'd
39:56
Speaker 2: love to do it. I'm sure the Democrats would be thrilled.
40:00
Speaker 2: I would certainly moderate. You're talking to the debate between
40:02
Speaker 2: the Republican.
40:03
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, because the numbers would go through the ceiling.
40:06
Speaker 1: We'd get one hundred million people when you'd ask him
40:09
Speaker 1: about Iran.
40:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get good numbers. Now, I like the idea
40:13
Speaker 2: about it. I would I would absolutely do it. Now,
40:16
Speaker 2: find a Democrat that's going to do it. I always
40:18
Speaker 2: complained when that loser from ABC did the you know,
40:21
Speaker 2: did the debate and he was so biased and I
40:25
Speaker 2: was basically he was him and an unknown woman, but
40:28
Speaker 2: who was a radical left person? And I said, well,
40:31
Speaker 2: this is two and a half against one. They said,
40:34
Speaker 2: who's the half? I said, Kamala, I got two people
40:38
Speaker 2: plus a half against me. No, I would love to
40:40
Speaker 2: do something like that. I can't imagine they do it,
40:42
Speaker 2: but if they would do it, I would do it.
40:44
Speaker 1: Oh, you get the Vice President Marco Rubio, you'd get
40:47
Speaker 1: a senator cruise. You'd be a great moderator. I really
40:50
Speaker 1: urge you to do that. Now, if the Democrats win
40:54
Speaker 1: the House, they're going to impeach you. And I don't
40:56
Speaker 1: care what the argument is. They're just going to find
40:58
Speaker 1: a way to impecha. You know, Shady Vance could represent you,
41:01
Speaker 1: and he can be in the Senate doing the same thing.
41:04
Speaker 1: Have you thought about that. He's a good lawyer.
41:06
Speaker 2: Well, I don't like to think about it too much
41:08
Speaker 2: because I think we're going to do well. In fact,
41:10
Speaker 2: a man just walked into my office. The Speaker of
41:13
Speaker 2: the House, Mike Johnson, is great, great speakers.
41:15
Speaker 9: He's doing a great job.
41:16
Speaker 2: Don't forget. We have a majority of two three and
41:19
Speaker 2: we hit four. We're like, you know, we're like, we
41:22
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. We have so many and
41:24
Speaker 2: we've gotten all this stime. We got the great, big,
41:26
Speaker 2: beautiful bill done. And you know, I'll tell you I'm
41:29
Speaker 2: just a fast story. Yesterday we had a lot of people.
41:31
Speaker 2: They're building a heliport because for years they should have
41:34
Speaker 2: had it built at the White House. You know, they're
41:36
Speaker 2: landing in the mud all the time. We're building a
41:39
Speaker 2: little heliport, not that little actually, but a heliport. And
41:42
Speaker 2: they were working on Sunday and I went out to
41:44
Speaker 2: see the men.
41:45
Speaker 9: I said, remember this.
41:47
Speaker 2: No tax on overtime. Okay, think of it. They're working
41:50
Speaker 2: on a Sunday no tax and the old cheered. They said,
41:53
Speaker 2: who voted against Trump?
41:54
Speaker 9: They said nobody.
41:55
Speaker 1: So you know, I got three suggestions for you. Number One,
41:59
Speaker 1: there was an I say in the Washington Post, make
42:01
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42:05
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42:08
Speaker 1: Number Two, the Ruthless podcast gets more people than any
42:12
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42:14
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42:15
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42:18
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42:21
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42:23
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42:26
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42:29
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42:34
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42:37
Speaker 1: I think Steve Scalise doesn't like the bill. Maybe you
42:40
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42:41
Speaker 9: On a little bit to get no.
42:42
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42:46
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42:48
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42:50
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42:53
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42:54
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42:57
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43:00
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43:11
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43:14
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43:35
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43:37
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43:41
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43:46
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43:53
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43:56
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44:13
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44:42
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47:54
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47:57
Speaker 1: and you were a very successful oil and gas executive.
48:00
Speaker 1: Why in the world would you want to leave where
48:02
Speaker 1: you're in charge to go and join a body of
48:03
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48:06
Speaker 1: that you're the rookie for a while, why'd you do it?
48:10
Speaker 11: Well, you know, it's been obvious to me for quite
48:13
Speaker 11: some time here in the US that permitting is an
48:17
Speaker 11: issue that a lot of people have tried to tackle,
48:20
Speaker 11: but it's just been getting worse and worse. Be so
48:23
Speaker 11: critical to our future, particularly as we think about things
48:29
Speaker 11: like AI and advanced manufacturing, that we have to be
48:33
Speaker 11: able to supply the energy for that to continue to
48:36
Speaker 11: be the great country that we are. And so it
48:39
Speaker 11: was just very evident to me it was my time
48:41
Speaker 11: to do what I could.
48:43
Speaker 7: To give back.
48:44
Speaker 11: And I didn't want to be the guy sitting around
48:47
Speaker 11: later in my years complaining about what wasn't getting done.
48:50
Speaker 11: If I wasn't willing to throw myself into the ring
48:53
Speaker 11: as well, and so that's about how simple it was
48:56
Speaker 11: in my mind.
48:57
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great answer.
48:59
Speaker 1: And given you've got expertise on pipeline pipeline permitting their
49:03
Speaker 1: utility to come. Are your colleagues listening to you, because
49:06
Speaker 1: it's been my experience that sometimes senators think they know
49:09
Speaker 1: a lot more than they really do about arcane stuff.
49:12
Speaker 1: I did pipeline permitting when I was a lawyer one
49:15
Speaker 1: thousand years ago. Are they listening to you talk to
49:17
Speaker 1: them about pipelines?
49:19
Speaker 11: You know, I would say for the most part that
49:22
Speaker 11: my message has been pretty welcome. The good news is
49:26
Speaker 11: I think that people from both in the US that
49:32
Speaker 11: we're able to continue to build it out. It's stopped
49:35
Speaker 11: electric transmission projects, it stopped a lot of big mining
49:39
Speaker 11: projects that people understand we have to have, and it
49:42
Speaker 11: certainly stopped pipeline projects, which in some states, in a
49:46
Speaker 11: lot of blue states, people are starting to recognize is
49:49
Speaker 11: the reason that their utility bills are going so sky high.
49:52
Speaker 11: And therefore it's become a political problem in states that
49:57
Speaker 11: have blocked infrastructure, and so they answer your question is yes,
50:00
Speaker 11: I think that people from both sides of the aisle
50:04
Speaker 11: understand how important it is that we tackle this issue.
50:09
Speaker 1: So tell me what you think of the Senate. It's
50:12
Speaker 1: an arcane institution. Been my joy to know a bunch
50:15
Speaker 1: of them pretty well over the year. Center Cotton began
50:18
Speaker 1: on the show today. Late Lindsey Graham was on fifty
50:21
Speaker 1: nine times on the program over its twenty six years.
50:24
Speaker 3: How you liking Is it enjoyable?
50:27
Speaker 2: You know?
50:27
Speaker 11: I find I love a good challenge, and I wake
50:31
Speaker 11: up in the morning trying to figure out how we're
50:33
Speaker 11: going to get something done in terms of getting a
50:36
Speaker 11: bill passed. So I find it is a really interesting
50:39
Speaker 11: challenge and a lot of I learned something new every day,
50:44
Speaker 11: and so I would just you know, be I was
50:46
Speaker 11: CEO for almost fifteen years at the Williams Companies, and
50:50
Speaker 11: that had gotten While I was never an easy job
50:53
Speaker 11: by any stretch of the imagination. You know, a lot
50:57
Speaker 11: of the problems came in every day and they might
50:59
Speaker 11: just have a different set of shoes on, but.
51:01
Speaker 7: With a lot of the same problems.
51:02
Speaker 11: Here, all new set of skills sets required, and so
51:07
Speaker 11: it's been very invigorating to me to come at this
51:10
Speaker 11: and tackle a whole new set of challenges here.
51:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine the CEO says, do this, do
51:16
Speaker 1: that and that and this get done in the Senate.
51:18
Speaker 1: That doesn't really work that way, does it.
51:21
Speaker 7: No, not at all, Not at all.
51:23
Speaker 11: People don't really. All they want to remind me is
51:26
Speaker 11: that I've been the most junior senator, so I'm very
51:29
Speaker 11: well aware of that.
51:30
Speaker 1: Oh there's some joshing as well. Do you have to
51:33
Speaker 1: stand for reelection in the fall?
51:34
Speaker 3: Center No.
51:36
Speaker 11: I will not be standing for reelection in the fall.
51:40
Speaker 11: And so this is my very short time period to
51:43
Speaker 11: get something done on permitting, and I came in here
51:47
Speaker 11: kind of with a singular focus to tackle that, and
51:50
Speaker 11: I've made that, you know, extremely clear. I don't think
51:53
Speaker 11: there's anybody of my Senate colleagues that don't know what
51:56
Speaker 11: I'm focused on. And I'm blessed to have a fantastic
52:00
Speaker 11: staff that really knows the issues as well, and they've
52:04
Speaker 11: really been doing a great job of getting our message
52:08
Speaker 11: forward on the importance of permitting reform.
52:12
Speaker 3: Well, last word to you, I.
52:13
Speaker 1: Hope you succeed because up in New England they're dying
52:16
Speaker 1: from oil and natural gas prices during the winter, and
52:19
Speaker 1: it's because New York will not allow permitting it's all
52:23
Speaker 1: blue up here. It's all democrats. Do any Democrats talk
52:25
Speaker 1: to you about permitting reform?
52:27
Speaker 7: Absolutely?
52:28
Speaker 11: And you know, the good news is a lot of
52:31
Speaker 11: them really do understand the impact of it, and a
52:34
Speaker 11: lot of the New England governors finally have you know,
52:38
Speaker 11: really been pushing to try to get natural gas pipelines
52:41
Speaker 11: into that space. But there's also a lot of need
52:44
Speaker 11: for new power transmission lines which are going to get
52:47
Speaker 11: blocked by some of the same problems that have blocked
52:51
Speaker 11: natural gas pipelines across our country as well. And so
52:55
Speaker 11: I think people are unified on this issue. It's a
52:58
Speaker 11: question of one thing that is not as popular, if
53:03
Speaker 11: you will, because the American public doesn't really understand a
53:06
Speaker 11: lot of times how bad the lack of infrastructure hurts
53:11
Speaker 11: them and keeps them cut off from some of the
53:14
Speaker 11: lowest price energy resources in the world in places like
53:18
Speaker 11: Pennsylvania to some of the most expensive cost of natural
53:24
Speaker 11: gas in markets like Boston during the winter. And it's
53:28
Speaker 11: as simple as getting a pipeline built, it is, but
53:32
Speaker 11: yet we can't get that done. So the good news
53:34
Speaker 11: is people are starting to raise enough kine about it
53:37
Speaker 11: that it's starting to get the attentions of the Democrats
53:42
Speaker 11: as well, and so I'm counting on that to become
53:45
Speaker 11: a noisy enough issue that it motivates parties to get
53:49
Speaker 11: something done on permitting.
53:50
Speaker 1: Well, preach center and come back in the fall. If
53:53
Speaker 1: you're getting close to the goal line you want to push,
53:55
Speaker 1: let me know. I like making your acquaintance and enjoy
53:57
Speaker 1: your time in DC, though in the summer it's never
54:00
Speaker 1: much fun. Alan Armstrong, creditor from Oklahoma. Thank you, friend,