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STILL NO ARREST: College Student, 21, Body Found Riddles with Bullets · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.
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Speaker 2: Just think about it with me for a moment, and
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Speaker 2: I don't like to let my mind go there. But
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Speaker 2: for the purposes of analyzing this case, I am.
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Speaker 3: You put all.
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Speaker 2: Your love, all your dreams, all your energy, all your time,
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Speaker 2: all your money into your children. You try to push
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Speaker 2: them in every way that you can. You help them
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Speaker 2: on their merit badges, on their math test, make them
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Speaker 2: eat vegetables, and this goes on year after year after
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Speaker 2: you you finally get them to college. You know where
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Speaker 2: I'm going with this, right. A gorgeous co ed shot
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Speaker 2: at a college senior was sitting in her car eating
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Speaker 2: fries when she is shot ten times. Killer on the loose,
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Speaker 2: I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: being with us here at Fox Nation. In Sirius XM
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Speaker 2: one eleven who murdered Ali take a listen to this.
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Speaker 4: Fear, sadness and anger.
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Speaker 5: After an apparent random act of violence, an LSU student
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Speaker 5: shot dead on Government Street in downtown East in Baton Rouge.
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Speaker 5: She was shrewd by a passing train when someone opened
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Speaker 5: fire in the middle of the night. Ali Rice was
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Speaker 5: shot multiple times and died in the front seat.
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Speaker 6: Of her car.
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Speaker 5: Police aren't sure right now who did it. There's no
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Speaker 5: sign anything was stolen. Police have been working the streets
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Speaker 5: all day, canvassing that area.
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Speaker 3: We have talked to businesses.
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Speaker 5: Along Government Street who say they have turned over surveillance
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Speaker 5: video to detectives.
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Speaker 7: Twenty one year old Alison Rice was found shot to
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Speaker 7: death inside of her car in downtown Baton Rouge, and
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Speaker 7: her murder happening just three miles away.
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Speaker 3: From LSU, where she attended.
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Speaker 7: The twenty one year old was returning from an arcade
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Speaker 7: Friday morning when she was shot to death multiple times
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Speaker 7: inside her car. The gunman and their motive both remain
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Speaker 7: a mystery.
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Speaker 2: You are hearing our friends at wb RZ and News Nation,
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Speaker 2: But now take a listen again to Katie Eastern.
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Speaker 8: Twenty one year old Alison Rice, who went by Ali,
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Speaker 8: was found shot to death in her car. She was
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Speaker 8: a senior at LSU studying marketing and attended Dutchtown High School,
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Speaker 8: where she was a cheerleader. I know like a loud
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Speaker 8: how found People who live in the area heard the
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Speaker 8: gunfire but didn't see anything. Sources say they believe Rice
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Speaker 8: was turning around at the tracks as a train came by.
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Speaker 8: That's when someone shot her multiple times through her windshield.
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Speaker 9: I heard the training, but I didn't.
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Speaker 4: I ain't paid a mind to trail panther a gunbat
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Speaker 4: no fire.
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Speaker 2: A senior at LSU studying marketing, cheerleader at Dutchtown High,
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Speaker 2: minding her own business in her own car, probably with
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Speaker 2: the doors locked, eating French fries, and now she's dead. Now,
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Speaker 2: how do you tell that to Allie's parents? With me
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Speaker 2: and all Star panel to make sense of what we
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Speaker 2: know right now? But speaking of telling Ali's parents, who
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Speaker 2: gets that job? Who was sent early early in the
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Speaker 2: morning to Ali's parents front.
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Speaker 3: Door and.
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Speaker 2: To give them the news their girl is dead? Take
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Speaker 2: a listen to Ali's dad speaking with our friend Martha McCowan.
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Speaker 10: We received a ring on the doorbell at four five am.
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Speaker 10: We woke up to our dog bark and in the
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Speaker 10: doorbell ringing. You know, cops have showed up in the
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Speaker 10: middle of the night before for various reasons, you know,
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Speaker 10: things going on in the neighborhood and all. But when
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Speaker 10: they asked, are you Allison's father? Can we come in please? Yeah,
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Speaker 10: you knew at that point that it was going to
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Speaker 10: be something terrible. It should not have happened.
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Speaker 3: It should not have happened. She's a beautiful child.
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Speaker 10: She had one year left to graduate LSU, She had
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Speaker 10: her whole future ahead of her.
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Speaker 11: Just so devastating there. The investigators say that prior to
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Speaker 11: this shooting, Rice had been with friends at a business
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Speaker 11: in mid City. It's unclear what happened between the time
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Speaker 11: that she left and when she was gunned down.
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Speaker 2: Let's go straight out to Chris and Nakameda report. Let's
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Speaker 2: just start at the very beginning. We got a lot
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Speaker 2: to get through. Chris, tell me what happened when Allie
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Speaker 2: was shot.
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Speaker 6: This murder has really rocked this community to the core.
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Speaker 6: This is the type of street where murders don't happen.
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Speaker 6: She was leaving an arcade, had stopped at a railroad
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Speaker 6: track literally a stone's throw from downtown Baton Rouge, and
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Speaker 6: you literally there's a train that's coming by, and from
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Speaker 6: what police have told us, gunman approaches and just opens
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Speaker 6: fire on her car.
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Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, you just told me something I
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Speaker 2: didn't know, Chris Nakamoto. You said a gunman approached her car.
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Speaker 2: So this is not a case of wrong place, wrong time.
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Speaker 2: They saw who they were shooting. Did the government actually
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Speaker 2: approach her car?
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Speaker 6: Sources are saying that a gunman or gunman arrived on
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Speaker 6: foot and shot through her window, killing her.
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Speaker 3: I just.
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Speaker 2: This girl, a marketing major, cheerleader, scrubbed in Sunshine, gunned
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Speaker 2: down by unknown assailants as she's in her car trying
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Speaker 2: to turn around the car to train track and munch
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Speaker 2: it on fries.
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Speaker 3: It's not computing to me and something else, you said.
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Speaker 2: Chris Knakimoto, And I'm not going to kill the messenger,
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Speaker 2: but mona Qua joining me high profile private investigator with
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Speaker 2: Monique Investigations out of Omaha on Twitter at mona k
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Speaker 2: did you hear Chris Knakamoto say this is a neighborhood
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Speaker 2: where people don't get shot, right, He's right, He's right. Statistically,
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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of shootings there. But the reality
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Speaker 2: is crime invades every neighborhood. I mean, you're beating the
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Speaker 2: street every single day on your cases as a PI
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Speaker 2: private investigator, and I bet you investigate all over every
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Speaker 2: area of town.
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Speaker 12: Yes, no, yes, that's true, in areas that most people
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Speaker 12: wouldn't assume that there's a lot of crime. I see
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Speaker 12: it all the time. And also there was a witness.
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Speaker 8: It was parts on the.
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Speaker 9: Other side of the railroad tracks.
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Speaker 12: The witness two men pass his car, go between the
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Speaker 12: train boxes and approach Ali's car.
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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what you're giving me a flashback?
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Speaker 2: I've read every single I Gata Christie and that has
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Speaker 2: been written.
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Speaker 3: And you know, they do the books.
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Speaker 2: And the movie might be named something else, and then
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Speaker 2: the book might be re released years later under a
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Speaker 2: different name. But I read it as what missus McGillicutty saw,
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Speaker 2: and it's between trains.
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Speaker 3: Her train went that way, and she saw a murder
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Speaker 3: when the train went that way, and it's very hard
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Speaker 3: to see.
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Speaker 2: But what you're you know what you're telling me, you
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Speaker 2: can see as the train goes by through the train cars.
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Speaker 3: Wow, tell me about that, Chris Knakomoto.
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Speaker 6: We know that when police arrived on the scene after
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Speaker 6: you know, the shooting happened, that they processed the scene
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Speaker 6: for hours. They have been their tight lipped about what
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Speaker 6: type of evidence they collected at the scene, but my
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Speaker 6: sources are saying that there was a number of pieces
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Speaker 6: of evidence that were collected and are being tested. Hopefully.
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Speaker 6: Our crime lab here in Louisiana that operates under the
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Speaker 6: umbrella of Louisiana State Police can get a rush on
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Speaker 6: some of that to see if they can get a
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Speaker 6: return to hopefully try to connect the dots to see
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Speaker 6: if there's any sort of DNA matches we do know.
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Speaker 6: The District Attorney announced that the FEDS have also joined
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Speaker 6: in the investigation, the DEA, ATF, and the FBI in
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Speaker 6: hopes of trying to all put their minds together to
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Speaker 6: solve who committed this heinous murder.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's go to the other experts joining us.
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Speaker 2: I've introduced Chris nakamotoed mona Quay from Monachay Private Investigations
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Speaker 2: in Omaha. But I want to go now to a
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Speaker 2: longtime friend and colleague, doctor Michelle Dupray, forensic pathologists, medical examiner,
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Speaker 2: detective and author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide, Doctor dupre
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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about what Chris Nakamoto
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Speaker 2: just said. He said they took hours to process the
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Speaker 2: scene hours. You know what makes a scene like this
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Speaker 2: even more difficult is that it's out doors. I've processed
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Speaker 2: scenes with crime investigators outdoors before. I'm just what comes
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Speaker 2: to mind is a playground and housing project. The whole
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Speaker 2: thing was covered with broken glass, used condoms, hypodermic needles,
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Speaker 2: little glassing bags, and we were looking for a shellcasing
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Speaker 2: and we found one. But long story short, doctor Dupree,
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Speaker 2: the pitfalls of an outdoor crime scene explained.
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Speaker 9: NaNs, there are so many I mean, first of all,
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Speaker 9: there is so much other information. There's so much other debris.
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Speaker 9: You're not sure what is relevant and what isn't, and
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Speaker 9: so you can't take the chance that you're going to
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Speaker 9: miss something. So you end up picking up a lot
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Speaker 9: more evidence sometimes than you're really going to be able
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Speaker 9: to use or that's pertinent to the case. In addition,
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Speaker 9: you have the weather to worry about, you have all
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Speaker 9: sorts of other again, debris, whether it's foreign DNA or
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Speaker 9: whether it's other people's fingerprints or tire prints or whatever
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Speaker 9: it might be. There is oftentimes just so much to
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Speaker 9: sift through and know what's really important and what to take.
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Speaker 2: And thinking about DNA and fingerprints. If they shot through
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Speaker 2: the window, doctor Dupre, unless they touched the car, which
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Speaker 2: maybe they did, I mean, Chris Nakamoto, how close do
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Speaker 2: they get to the car?
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Speaker 6: See those are questions that police have not answered, but
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Speaker 6: we do know they fired on her car. At least
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Speaker 6: ten times.
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Speaker 2: Good Lauren in Heaven, Hold on, hold on, doctor Duprix,
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Speaker 2: put let this percolate for a moment. I want to
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Speaker 2: talk about how prints can be found on shell casings, casings?
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Speaker 2: Can they be found on bullets? If they got close
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Speaker 2: enough to the car, if they touched the car? How
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Speaker 2: you process that scene? But Doctor Angie Arnold, percolate on that,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Duprie, Doctor Angela Arnold joining me, renowned psychiatrists joining
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Speaker 2: us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her
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Speaker 2: at Angela Arnold MD dot com. Doctor Angie ten rounds
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Speaker 2: or more? What is that telling you? Look, this is
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Speaker 2: not some jilted boyfriend. Didn't you say there was more
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Speaker 2: than one a sale at Chris Or did you say that?
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Speaker 6: We heard from our sources that there was possibly one
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Speaker 6: or two people that approached the vehicle. Police have been
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Speaker 6: very tight lipped about what they've released so far.
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Speaker 2: I understand they don't want to get too much information
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Speaker 2: out there that could somehow harm the integrity of the investigation.
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Speaker 3: Okay, still we know ten rounds Chris?
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Speaker 6: Do we know that that is what our sources are saying?
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Speaker 2: At least ten Doctor Angie, this is just a girl.
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Speaker 2: She's a college student. She's been at an arcade with
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Speaker 2: her other girlfriends. She's eating fries. How many times, Angie,
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Speaker 2: have you sat at the red light with some fries
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Speaker 2: or I don't know, in your case, maybe some pote
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but and minding your own business and
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Speaker 2: then out of the blue.
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Speaker 4: Yes, every day, Nancy. We do it every day, don't we.
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Speaker 4: Driving down Peach Tree, it sounds like it was an execution.
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Speaker 4: I wonder if they even knew who they were shooting.
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you this girl is too young to
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Speaker 2: be the victim of an orchestrated execution.
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Speaker 3: What more do we know?
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Speaker 2: Take a listen now to our friends at ABC thirteen Houston.
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Speaker 13: There is an urgent manhut in Louisiana for an LSU
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Speaker 13: students killer.
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Speaker 11: Police are now coming through evidence to try to find
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Speaker 11: out who shot it and killed twenty one year old
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Speaker 11: Alice Rice in Baton Rouge last Friday. Rice that stopped
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Speaker 11: for a train crossing and was approached by someone who's
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Speaker 11: simply opened fire at least a dozen times. They're into
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Speaker 11: her windshield, glass and other markings suggest she was trying
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Speaker 11: to turn around when she died.
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Speaker 3: There are still no leads.
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Speaker 14: In this case.
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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick joining me, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags
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Speaker 2: that's on Amazon. You can find her at wendypatrickphd dot com.
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Speaker 2: She's also the host of Today with Doctor Wendy k
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Speaker 2: c BQ, San Diego.
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Speaker 3: Wendy, thanks for being with us, Wendy.
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Speaker 2: I'm just imagining what happened, and I'm wondering if she
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Speaker 2: saw these guys or guy coming and she tried to
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Speaker 2: turn around, or if she was turning around because it
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Speaker 2: was a train track she didn't want to wait on
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Speaker 2: the train. She could have gotten a sixth sense because
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Speaker 2: this was you know they they played at. They all
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Speaker 2: played at this arcade till after midnight. So it's pitch
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Speaker 2: dark and she's stuck at a train track. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, have you ever it's happened to me. I
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Speaker 2: remember jogging on a really long road by railroad tracks
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Speaker 2: and there was nothing around, and it hit me, you,
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Speaker 2: of all people, no better than to do this. I
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Speaker 2: just got a feeling and I turned around the road
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Speaker 2: to go on the other way, going back toward home,
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Speaker 2: and I wonder if she was sitting.
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Speaker 3: There and went, what, it's after midnight, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Here alone in my car at a train. It's going
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Speaker 2: to take forever to get by.
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Speaker 3: I'm leaving. I'm out of here. I wonder if she
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Speaker 3: got a six sense that was turning around. What do
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Speaker 3: you think happened?
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Speaker 2: Based on what we know and now we're hearing Chris Nakamoto,
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Speaker 2: possibly twelve bullets.
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Speaker 3: But but go ahead, Wendy.
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Speaker 13: It seems like situational awareness really kicked in if that's
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Speaker 13: in fact what she was doing. You know, we're supposed
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Speaker 13: to have our heads on swibble regardless of where we are,
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Speaker 13: but especially if it's middle of the night, you're at
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Speaker 13: an area, even if you're familiar with it. You know,
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Speaker 13: Chris brought up the great point of well, not in
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Speaker 13: my backyard. It's a safe community. We don't have murders here.
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Speaker 13: But you know, if this beautiful young woman lived there,
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Speaker 13: she probably knew there in fact elements to be dangerous
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Speaker 13: and the things that she should be aware of. It
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Speaker 13: sounds like mistaken identity. I also think it sounds like
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Speaker 13: an execution and assassination. And you wonder whether or not
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Speaker 13: she heard something that was my first thought that caused
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Speaker 13: her to look around and make sure she was safe,
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Speaker 13: and sadly we know what happened and where the end
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Speaker 13: of that went.
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Speaker 3: Chris Mikimoto.
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Speaker 2: I also learned from some of our sources that she
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Speaker 2: was shot through the quote wind screen or a car.
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Speaker 2: Are they trying to say the front windshelter.
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Speaker 6: Yes, that's what we are understanding as well. But the
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Speaker 6: bullets entered in her abdomen area. From what we're being told.
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Speaker 6: The district attorney told us the key piece that they're
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Speaker 6: trying to figure out was was she trying to turn
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Speaker 6: around when she saw the train and would stop there,
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Speaker 6: or was she trying to turn around after she saw
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Speaker 6: the gunman approach? And so they're trying to piece that together.
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Speaker 6: Obviously they said that there wasn't surveillance video right there.
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Speaker 6: Just going to ask you that they've come through the
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Speaker 6: area going to multiple businesses, and I know for a
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Speaker 6: fact that they are going through some videos in hopes
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Speaker 6: of trying to piece together what happened.
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Speaker 2: To doctor Michelle dide Free joining us a medical pathologist,
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Speaker 2: examiner and detective. What do you make of the shots
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Speaker 2: coming through the windshield, the front windshield? But she's shot
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Speaker 2: in the abdomen that have to be shooting down directly
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Speaker 2: at her, well.
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Speaker 9: Nancy, can be a couple of things. Of course, the
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Speaker 9: shots coming through what we would call an intermediate target
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Speaker 9: would be the windshield, so it's going to deflect that
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Speaker 9: bullet in some other direction. It's also going to cause
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Speaker 9: more damage because the bullet will have expanded hitting that
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Speaker 9: initial target, and so when it would hit her, unfortunately,
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Speaker 9: it would be a much more devastating injury. I want
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Speaker 9: to go to something that you've been talking about. She
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Speaker 9: may have seen the people coming, so she may have
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Speaker 9: tried to turn around. This is very It's a very
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Speaker 9: interesting case because it could be personal because they'd have
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Speaker 9: to know who, when, and where she was. It could
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Speaker 9: also be something like a gang initiation, or if it's
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Speaker 9: really truly random, this is very scary because those are
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Speaker 9: the most hard cases to even try to solve when
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Speaker 9: it truly is random.
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Speaker 3: Guys, we're learning a little bit more.
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Speaker 2: This is from Unfiltered with Kiaren and it is a
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Speaker 2: quote from an alleged witness. I was bringing my friend
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Speaker 2: home who lives on Government Street. When we got on Government,
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Speaker 2: we came to the train tracks and the train was
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Speaker 2: at a complete stop. Not even hate it when the
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Speaker 2: train doesn't. Not even ten minutes later, two guys walk
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Speaker 2: past my car, wearing dark clothes with long sleeves, one
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Speaker 2: wearing a red hoodie, the hoodie over his head, mid twenties,
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Speaker 2: both of them five ten to five eleven. At this time,
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Speaker 2: her vehicle pulled up. This is Allison's Allie silver SUV.
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Speaker 2: These two guys walk past my vehicle, the train still
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Speaker 2: at a stop, walking through the cars of the train
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Speaker 2: to get across the tracks. Ten minutes went by her gunshots,
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Speaker 2: multiple gunshots. I could still see her car parked. As
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Speaker 2: soon as the shots went off, she tried to turn around,
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Speaker 2: and then she just stopped. I could not tell where
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Speaker 2: the shots were coming from, but I knew they were
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Speaker 2: very close to me. I ended up backing out and leaving.
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Speaker 2: That's more of what we know right now, Guys, the
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Speaker 2: police are issuing a desperate plea for help.
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Speaker 3: Take a listen to our friends at WDBJ.
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Speaker 15: Police are pleading with the public if anyone has information
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Speaker 15: regarding this case, to please come forward.
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Speaker 14: We're asking for anyone that has any information regarding the
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Speaker 14: death of the young lady pick up the phone called
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Speaker 14: Crime stoppers three, four, four, seven, eight sixty seven.
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Speaker 2: Back to doctor Michelle Dupree, author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide,
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Speaker 2: What about the possibility of any kind of prints.
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Speaker 3: Full or partial, on shells or bullets.
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Speaker 9: Well, you're not going to find any prints on the
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Speaker 9: bullets andselves on the shelves. There is a relatively new
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Speaker 9: technique where it has been possible to find prints on
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Speaker 9: the shelves, but you have to do it very carefully.
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Speaker 9: We found that the oils will oftentimes leave they're very small,
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Speaker 9: etching on the casing of the shell. So it would
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Speaker 9: be you've got to find their shells and hopefully they would.
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Speaker 2: And the problem with the bullet if you've ever seen
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Speaker 2: a bullet that's already been fired, even if someone did
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Speaker 2: touch the bullet, the problem is the bullet becomes deformed
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Speaker 2: once it hits anything. It's going at such a high velocity,
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Speaker 2: it crumples up like a paper.
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Speaker 3: Cut when it hits.
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Speaker 2: Not always, but a lot of times, you can't get
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Speaker 2: a print off of that. To Monique, private investigator joining
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Speaker 2: us for Monique Investigations, what do you make of what
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Speaker 2: we're learning now?
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Speaker 12: Well, I think it's interesting that if it was a
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Speaker 12: random shooting. It passed the first car that the witness
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Speaker 12: you know described, passed his car, went to her car,
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Speaker 12: and then he describes, you know, roughly ten minutes of
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Speaker 12: time went by before he heard gunshots.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm wondering what was going.
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Speaker 12: On in that amount of time.
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Speaker 2: For some reason, Monique, I took the witness to be
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Speaker 2: a male. Don't know why. I don't know why, but
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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if they went up to Ali's car, saw
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Speaker 2: a lone female and tried to get in the car
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Speaker 2: to rapeer or robber, and and she started backing out
21:02
Speaker 2: and then they fired on her.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they were trying to get.
21:06
Speaker 2: In her car, right, because that would explain why her
21:10
Speaker 2: and not the witness. Why do they walk past the
21:11
Speaker 2: witnesses car and pick out her car? Guys, I want
21:16
Speaker 2: you to now take a listen to our friends again.
21:18
Speaker 2: At WDBTJA, seven.
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Speaker 16: Officials with the East bat Rouge Parish Corner's Office are
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Speaker 16: ruling her death a homicide, saying she died for multiple
21:26
Speaker 16: gunshot wounds as investigators found her dead inside of her
21:29
Speaker 16: vehicle near the railroad tracks on Government Street. A suspect
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Speaker 16: and motive in this one remain unknown. At this time too.
21:36
Speaker 2: Chris Nakamoto tell me about that rail crossing, you don't
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Speaker 2: really see a lot of residential homes facing a train track,
21:48
Speaker 2: which would mean, if that's true, there's not going to
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Speaker 2: be any for instance, ring doorbells catching it.
21:53
Speaker 3: What's around the train track.
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Speaker 6: To give you a scene, center, that area has gone
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Speaker 6: through a huge amount of redevelopment over the last five
22:00
Speaker 6: to ten years, a huge gentrification or a bunch of
22:03
Speaker 6: old buildings that were there that have now become you know, restaurants,
22:07
Speaker 6: and there's a lot of night life in that area.
22:10
Speaker 6: It's a great place to be to bring your family,
22:12
Speaker 6: and so for something like this to happen, that is
22:15
Speaker 6: why this community is really because they don't feel safe
22:17
Speaker 6: in a situation that they want to take their families.
22:20
Speaker 6: And then you also have the situation where she's from.
22:23
Speaker 6: She's from twenty miles from south of Baton Rouge in
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Speaker 6: an area of Ascension Parish called Geismer, and so you
22:30
Speaker 6: have that area of the community that's also reeling from
22:33
Speaker 6: her death. This was a good girl, and Baton Rouge
22:36
Speaker 6: police told us that they do believe that this was
22:39
Speaker 6: a random act of violence, which makes things particularly scary
22:43
Speaker 6: because if this was random, you now have these monsters
22:46
Speaker 6: that are out on looming in the public that could
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Speaker 6: do it to somebody else, you know.
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Speaker 2: Chris Nakamoto, I'm trying to figure out anything about surveillance
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Speaker 2: video or ring doorbell. There was not a surveillance video
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Speaker 2: at the crossing itself. I'd also be curious if they
23:05
Speaker 2: have recovered her cell phone. I mean, let's just say,
23:08
Speaker 2: let's hypothesize, let's spin it out to its logical conclusion.
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Speaker 3: Chris.
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Speaker 2: If these two guys, and the witness says there were two,
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Speaker 2: one in a red hoodie, both in dark clothing, what
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Speaker 2: if they tried to get in her car.
23:23
Speaker 3: And she took their picture.
23:24
Speaker 2: I mean, does anybody on the panel have you ever
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Speaker 2: seen someone speeding or they do something crazy and you
23:30
Speaker 2: snap a picture.
23:31
Speaker 3: Of their license tech.
23:33
Speaker 2: I do it all the time, or if I say
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Speaker 2: something unusual, I do.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Nancy, just jump in, Wendy, both personally and professionally,
23:42
Speaker 13: that is a very modern way of documenting crime. You know,
23:45
Speaker 13: citizens are law enforcements, eyes and ears on the ground,
23:48
Speaker 13: and that is one of the ways that we contribute
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Speaker 13: to crime prevention within our own communities. This young woman
23:54
Speaker 13: I mean that would get right into the type of
23:55
Speaker 13: a pattern that we might expect, that we might expect
23:58
Speaker 13: to be savvy enough, especially if it's a safe area,
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Speaker 13: to see something and then document it in preparation for
24:05
Speaker 13: saying something.
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Speaker 2: We see it all the time, Wendy yep, I want
24:09
Speaker 2: to get my hands on that cell phone. Hey, Chris
24:12
Speaker 2: Knakamoto following up on what Wendy Patrick said, host of
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Speaker 2: Today with Doctor Wendy, Chris Nakamoto, is anything taken from
24:20
Speaker 2: her that.
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Speaker 3: We know of?
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Speaker 6: Nothing was taken. Absolutely nothing was taken, which is why
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Speaker 6: police are so stumped. They don't know whether or not
24:28
Speaker 6: this was an attempted carjacking, whether it was an attempted robbery,
24:32
Speaker 6: because nothing was taken from her vehicle. They don't know
24:35
Speaker 6: if the killers shot her and then got spooked or
24:39
Speaker 6: couldn't get into her car because a lot of cars
24:42
Speaker 6: lock when you put the vehicle in drive these days,
24:46
Speaker 6: and so they don't know if they shot her, tried
24:48
Speaker 6: to get in and couldn't get in, and then got
24:50
Speaker 6: spooked and took off running. But nothing was missing.
24:54
Speaker 3: Looking at a picture of her right now holding a
24:56
Speaker 3: puppy dog, what a smile. Obviously also invested in braces.
25:02
Speaker 2: She's got this beautiful million dollar smile, already had an
25:06
Speaker 2: internship lined up for when she got out.
25:11
Speaker 3: Great grades.
25:13
Speaker 2: The works back to you, Chris Nakamoto, at this location,
25:19
Speaker 2: do you think that there were surveillance cameras on the
25:23
Speaker 2: backs on any of these restaurants and bars you were
25:27
Speaker 2: talking about.
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Speaker 6: So we know that there's an audio. We obtained the
25:30
Speaker 6: audio of the weekend that sounds that you hear the
25:34
Speaker 6: gunshots and some screeching, But the audio is just audio,
25:37
Speaker 6: there's no video. And so we know that police were
25:41
Speaker 6: out on bicycles. They were handing out bicycles for their
25:44
Speaker 6: detectives to literally ride that whole area looking for video,
25:48
Speaker 6: and we know that there are a number of bars
25:50
Speaker 6: and restaurants that do have videos.
25:53
Speaker 2: I'm looking specifically at a white building to the left
25:59
Speaker 2: of the crime There's a white building and it looks
26:04
Speaker 2: to be some sort of a you know how you
26:07
Speaker 2: see like a bus stop with a little roof on it.
26:09
Speaker 3: One of those may be nearby. What kind of train
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Speaker 3: was this?
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Speaker 6: By the way, So we have a lot of industry
26:15
Speaker 6: in Baton Rouge, especially on the northern end. So when
26:18
Speaker 6: we talk about train We're not talking about passenger rail.
26:21
Speaker 6: These are tanker cars things like that that are going
26:25
Speaker 6: to and from in that industrial section. Yes, cargoes, so.
26:28
Speaker 2: There wouldn't be a whole lot of witnesses around standing
26:30
Speaker 2: at a train stop like a bus stop waiting. I'm
26:35
Speaker 2: looking at a picture of her now on homecoming court.
26:38
Speaker 2: Just talk about scrubbed and sunshine. Well, of course the
26:43
Speaker 2: family is devastated.
26:45
Speaker 3: Listen, what does.
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Speaker 4: Your gut tell you about what happened that night in
26:50
Speaker 4: her car.
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Speaker 10: The only thing that I can really think at this
26:55
Speaker 10: point is it's a bad case of wrong place at
26:59
Speaker 10: the wrong time. You know, she's not anyone that had enemies.
27:06
Speaker 10: We don't think that she was being stalked or followed.
27:10
Speaker 10: They really don't have an explanation at this point. They're
27:16
Speaker 10: trying to find some type of video footage, some kind
27:19
Speaker 10: of surveillance. They're going further back down the road to
27:24
Speaker 10: you know, maybe check those cameras see if someone was
27:27
Speaker 10: following or seeing if they can see you know, maybe
27:30
Speaker 10: people walking in the area or something that could have
27:33
Speaker 10: been involved in this. But as of now, that particular
27:36
Speaker 10: stretch of town, they don't have the surveillance that's necessary.
27:41
Speaker 2: You're hearing Ali's father. I don't know how he has
27:45
Speaker 2: his strength to even speak. He's talking to our friend
27:50
Speaker 2: Martha McCollum on Fox News. I guess he's propelled by
27:55
Speaker 2: seeking justice for his daughter Ali.
28:13
Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
28:19
Speaker 2: You know, I know that she was eating fries, Doctor
28:23
Speaker 2: Michelle Dufree, because when her body was found still sitting
28:27
Speaker 2: in her car, she was still in her seat with
28:30
Speaker 2: the fries in her lap.
28:32
Speaker 3: It's not like she was.
28:33
Speaker 2: Doing anything to intimidate or threaten her shooters in no
28:37
Speaker 2: way at all, That's.
28:39
Speaker 9: Right, Nancy. I mean, this is someone who is you know,
28:41
Speaker 9: stopped at a train track, minding their own business, eating
28:44
Speaker 9: fries on their way home. I mean this was senseless
28:47
Speaker 9: and I mean just absolutely a third attack on an
28:50
Speaker 9: innocent person.
28:52
Speaker 12: And can I jump in.
28:53
Speaker 9: This this moment.
28:55
Speaker 12: And it's very excessive the shooting. What do you mean,
28:57
Speaker 12: I mean the number of shots that were fired.
28:59
Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, guys. Take a listen to our friends at
29:05
Speaker 2: Inside Edition.
29:07
Speaker 15: As the roadside memorial grows on Government Street near the
29:10
Speaker 15: spot where twenty one year old LSU student Ali Rice
29:14
Speaker 15: was shot and killed early Friday morning, Questions still linger
29:18
Speaker 15: from the community on what happened. Lieutenant Don Copola with
29:21
Speaker 15: VRPD tells me the motive at this time is still
29:25
Speaker 15: unclear to investigators. Rice was found dead inside her bullet
29:28
Speaker 15: whittled car near the train tracks on Government Street close
29:32
Speaker 15: to Eddie Robinson Drive. Police say, if you're uneasy about
29:35
Speaker 15: what happened, you can use alternate routes.
29:38
Speaker 17: The heartbroken father of a slain college senior is pleading
29:42
Speaker 17: for help tracking down the killer.
29:44
Speaker 7: It's a great day with Griffin.
29:46
Speaker 17: Twenty one year old Ali Rice was shot multiple times
29:49
Speaker 17: through the windshields of her car when it was stopped
29:51
Speaker 17: at a railroad crossing while she was on her way
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Speaker 17: home in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The marketing major from Louisiana
29:58
Speaker 17: State University had been on an night out with friends.
30:01
Speaker 3: She was eating fries. What a barrage of bullets hit her.
30:05
Speaker 2: You're hearing not only the voice of Ali Rice. She
30:09
Speaker 2: was saying, it's a great day to beat a griff,
30:12
Speaker 2: and that was her voice. You're not only hearing inside Edition,
30:15
Speaker 2: but our friend Miranda Thomas at wd beat J seven
30:19
Speaker 2: straight back out to you, Chris Nakamoto, tell me about
30:24
Speaker 2: what is being done to find Ali's killer.
30:27
Speaker 6: The district attorney told us it's an all hands on
30:30
Speaker 6: deck thing. I mean, they have not stopped from the
30:33
Speaker 6: moment that she was killed. You have all the intelligence
30:37
Speaker 6: divisions that are keeping their ear to the ground. They
30:40
Speaker 6: are working over time. You now have the ATF, DEA,
30:43
Speaker 6: FBI all joining in the investigation. You have all of
30:47
Speaker 6: the RPD having multiple meetings talking about it.
30:50
Speaker 2: Do you say the DEA is involved? Yes, that's interesting.
30:54
Speaker 2: What do you make of that, Wendy Patrick, that the
30:56
Speaker 2: DEA is involved?
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Speaker 13: What I make of it is that there's more investigation
31:00
Speaker 13: then they're able to tell us because, as you noted earlier,
31:03
Speaker 13: they don't want to compromise the integrity of ongoing leads,
31:07
Speaker 13: so they're probably following up on other leads, other information
31:10
Speaker 13: and intel that came in from other sources. But it
31:13
Speaker 13: is very interesting, and you know, our ears perk up
31:16
Speaker 13: when we heard an agency like that was called in
31:19
Speaker 13: with what originally looked like just some sort of a
31:21
Speaker 13: murder investigation. It's never that straightforward. There's always more to
31:25
Speaker 13: the story.
31:25
Speaker 2: I will never forget the first triple homicide I prosecuted, Wendy.
31:30
Speaker 3: I was out working night.
31:32
Speaker 2: And day two and three o'clock in the morning at
31:35
Speaker 2: that playground I was talking about earlier. That is where
31:38
Speaker 2: the triple homicide went went down. Three young boys, really young,
31:42
Speaker 2: like fifteen sixteen seventeen were shot dead around midnight eleven
31:49
Speaker 2: thirty pm on a Sunday night on that playground, and
31:53
Speaker 2: I found out well into the investigation.
31:56
Speaker 3: Nobody wanted to talk because.
31:57
Speaker 2: They were afraid that the hod A DEA investigation go
32:02
Speaker 2: on at the same time. And of course the FEDS
32:04
Speaker 2: would not share any information at all, no matter how
32:09
Speaker 2: much I begged. I think they were letting me do
32:11
Speaker 2: their dirty work.
32:12
Speaker 3: For them, and I did so.
32:15
Speaker 2: When you bring in the FEDS, the DEA, Drug Enforcement
32:18
Speaker 2: Agency and the FBI there, I think you're right, Wendy,
32:22
Speaker 2: there's more going on that meets the eye. Of course,
32:25
Speaker 2: the parents absolutely devastated. Take a listen to our friends
32:32
Speaker 2: at inside. Addition, speaking to Allie's dad.
32:37
Speaker 17: Allie always had a smile on her face. She posted
32:43
Speaker 17: videos dancing with her dad.
32:48
Speaker 3: How close were you?
32:49
Speaker 10: Shet? Video messages me at work, you know, all day long,
32:52
Speaker 10: and we.
32:53
Speaker 9: Spent a lot of time together.
32:54
Speaker 17: Her slang is baffling police and no motive or suspects
32:58
Speaker 17: have been named.
33:00
Speaker 3: Have police given.
33:00
Speaker 17: You any idea who could have done this?
33:03
Speaker 10: At this point, there's really not any leads.
33:07
Speaker 2: Okay, let me go out to you, doctor Angela Arnold,
33:10
Speaker 2: help me out. Give me your analysis.
33:12
Speaker 4: My analysis from what I've heard today is that this
33:16
Speaker 4: was a random act of violence, in all likelihood perpetrated
33:21
Speaker 4: by some sort of gang initiation. I can't imagine anything
33:27
Speaker 4: that this beautiful girl did to bring this on herself.
33:30
Speaker 4: She was just a completely unlucky victim in this.
33:35
Speaker 3: And it's hideous when you hear the words from police saying, quote,
33:40
Speaker 3: she's with the coroner now, she didn't make it. It's
33:44
Speaker 3: the most devastating words you can ever hear.
33:47
Speaker 2: That's a quote from her father, Paul Rice, the family Paul,
33:54
Speaker 2: her stepmom Kay Rice, her mother Angela, her stepfather Travis devastated.
34:02
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine dodtra Angie. We always hear you
34:06
Speaker 2: should never have to bury your child. I hate to
34:09
Speaker 2: even say the words because all I can think of
34:11
Speaker 2: are my children, John, David and Lucy. And you know,
34:15
Speaker 2: doctor Angie, I thought I knew everything about grief and
34:19
Speaker 2: mourning and devastation on my fiance.
34:22
Speaker 3: It was murdered. Now that I have children, I can't
34:26
Speaker 3: imagine anything worse than having your child murdered.
34:31
Speaker 4: Well, because, Nancy, as you said, all we do are
34:34
Speaker 4: entire life.
34:34
Speaker 2: I mean, a child die in any way, I just
34:37
Speaker 2: can't even imagine that.
34:39
Speaker 4: But murdered and shot multiple times. You know, she may
34:44
Speaker 4: have been unrecognizable, We don't know.
34:47
Speaker 11: It was a.
34:47
Speaker 4: Horrific way for that beautiful girl to die. And I'm
34:52
Speaker 4: not sure how any parent ever truly gets over that, Nancy,
34:56
Speaker 4: because we spend our entire lives trying to protect them,
35:00
Speaker 4: open that little door to give them some freedom when
35:02
Speaker 4: they go to college. And then she's getting ready to
35:05
Speaker 4: graduate from college. We've done everything just beautifully, and then
35:09
Speaker 4: something like this befalls her.
35:11
Speaker 3: Really, parents, blessings and deities are never really over here.
35:16
Speaker 3: She is about to graduate and start an internship out
35:20
Speaker 3: in the big bad world, and this has to happen
35:22
Speaker 3: to their baby.
35:23
Speaker 4: And she thought, your children are always your babies, aren't they.
35:28
Speaker 4: They're always your babies. My little girl, I still see
35:31
Speaker 4: her as my baby, and hearing this story, I'm scared.
35:36
Speaker 4: You're always scared to death that something like that could
35:39
Speaker 4: happen to your own child. Because it's out there. It's
35:41
Speaker 4: out there in this mean world that we live in.
35:44
Speaker 3: Now, I want you to hear Allie. Take a listen
35:48
Speaker 3: to our friends from News Nation.
35:50
Speaker 7: The family distraught over who could have killed a young
35:53
Speaker 7: woman whose love of life they called contagious alson Nicole.
35:58
Speaker 12: Raise and I'm going to wake up that ate you
36:00
Speaker 12: tomorrow and have coffee.
36:01
Speaker 9: With how lovely your roommates, because that's just what I
36:04
Speaker 9: want to do.
36:04
Speaker 7: It's a whole Rice's uncle, Mike, spoke with News Nation today.
36:09
Speaker 7: He says the family has been given no answers.
36:12
Speaker 18: Well, it had no bed, but no enemies. We truly
36:18
Speaker 18: thank us for random micro violence. Some mobsters just take
36:23
Speaker 18: a love with some poor, pure, innocent child.
36:25
Speaker 7: At the time of rice Is shooting, police believe the
36:28
Speaker 7: LSU senior was stopped waiting for a train to pass.
36:32
Speaker 3: Guys, take a listen to our friends WAFB.
36:35
Speaker 2: Well.
36:35
Speaker 19: Many parents greeted their graduates after today's or So College
36:38
Speaker 19: of Business ceremony. The parents of Ali Rice walk out
36:42
Speaker 19: with just her diploma in hand.
36:44
Speaker 10: This is a difficult day. Today is three months to
36:49
Speaker 10: the day of Ali's murder. This was a day we
36:52
Speaker 10: were all looking forward to for her. You had to
36:56
Speaker 10: honor her for all our hard work and what it
36:59
Speaker 10: would take to to actually graduate from college. And you know,
37:02
Speaker 10: she had that day's toling from her, as did we.
37:05
Speaker 19: Ali's father, her mother, stepparents, brother, and two roommates attended
37:10
Speaker 19: today's graduation where Ali received her degree posthumously. Paul Rice says,
37:15
Speaker 19: today is a difficult day during a difficult time of year.
37:19
Speaker 10: I think we focus a lot more on our positive
37:21
Speaker 10: memories of Ali. You know, this time of year, a
37:25
Speaker 10: lot of those things pop up. You know, a lot
37:29
Speaker 10: of people are remembering her, a lot of people are
37:31
Speaker 10: reaching out, and all of that.
37:32
Speaker 19: Helps, but sticking together helps them get through the hard days.
37:36
Speaker 10: We just try to take everything one day at a time.
37:39
Speaker 10: Right now, we're waiting on, you know, any kind of answers,
37:42
Speaker 10: any kind of hope.
37:43
Speaker 19: Rice says he has not been told any updates on
37:46
Speaker 19: the investigation into his daughter's murder.
37:48
Speaker 2: It's almost the worse when the act is random, because
37:51
Speaker 2: it's kind of like your whole life is devastated by
37:55
Speaker 2: the luck of the draw. The tip line two two five,
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Speaker 2: three four four seven eight six seven repeat two two five, three,
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Speaker 2: four four seven eight six seven our prayers with Ali's
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Speaker 2: family as we pray the killers are brought to justice.
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Speaker 3: Goodbye friend,