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Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s Deposition in Edwards and Cassell v. Alan Dershowitz (Part 11) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to dive right
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  back in to the Virginia Roberts deposition against Alan Dershowitz. Question,
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  Miss Roberts, we were talking earlier today about that joinder motion,
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  and I had given you a copy of this document.
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  Do you still have it in front of you? Jane
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  do number three and Jane No. Number four? Correct emotion?
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  Answer this one, McCauley, yes, answer yes question. Turn please
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  to page four of that document. McCauley, Hang on one second.
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  I don't think I have a copy here of this
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  For some reason, I know you gave me one. I
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  got it. I'm sorry, thank you, Borgia. Question in the
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  first full paragraph, if you go six lines down, let's
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  start five lines down where it says the sentence begins.
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  In addition to do you see where I'm reading? Answer yes. Question.
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  In addition to being a participant in the abuse of
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  Jane number three and other miners, Dershowitz was an eyewitness
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  to the sexual abuse of many other miners by Epstein
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  and several of Epstein's co conspirators. Do you see that?
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  Answer yes? Question Now where it says participant in the
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  abuse of Jane No. Number three, You talked about your
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  abuse and other miners. Answer yes, participant yes question participant
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  in the abuse of other miners? Answer yes. Question can
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  you identify any of those miners? Answer specifically talking right now,
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  I'm speaking about the girl on the airplane and in
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  the limousine. Question how do you know the age of
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  the girl on the airplane? Answer? Like I said before,
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  they look young, but it's hard to depict exactly what
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  age they are. Question is it possible that neither one
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  of them was a miner? Answer it's possible that they were. Yes,
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  not a miner, but from what they looked like to me,
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  they did look young. Like I said, I can't tell
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  you their ages because I didn't talk to them or
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  asked their ages. Question then it says Dershowitz was an
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  eyewitness to the sexual abuse of many other miners of
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  Epstein and several of Epstein's co conspirators. Do you see that?
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  Answer yes. Question is that something that you personally know?
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  Answer yes. Dershowitz was around a lot, and Epstein constantly
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  had miners around with them, so to say that he
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  personally knew about the abuse happening with the other miners.
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  I mean, even before Dershowitz and I were personally together,
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  he walked in one occasion in New York, he walked
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  in on me providing oral sex to Jeffrey Epstein. I mean,
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  I thought that was a very awkward situation, somebody just
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  knocking on the door, walking in, continuing to have a
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  conversation while he's being serviced. So and then as well,
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  you know, there's I mean sharads of it, tons of
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  young girls constantly around for the only sole purpose of
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  having sex with those miners. Question how many times would
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  anybody have to visit an Epstein property to be an
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  eyewitness to the sexual abuse of many of the miners
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  in your opinion? Answer? I'm sorry, can you rephrase? I
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  just don't understand what you mean. Question. You say that
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  Dershowitz was an eyewitness. Answer yes, question, but you never
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  actually saw him as an eyewitness to the sexual abuse
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  of many of the miners. Is that correct? McAuley objection answer, Yes,
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  I did see him as an eyewitness obviously on the
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  plane and in the limousine. Question, but we don't know
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  that those were miners one way or the other. Right answer, right? Question.
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  That's your assumption. Correct answer yes, McAuley objection. Question and
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  you're speculating right. McAuley objection, Special Master, you can answer.
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  McAuley sorry, answer yes, I mean I Scrolla interjects, excuse me.
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  I don't believe the witness finished her response. You interrupted
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  her as she was still speaking question. So let's leave
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  those two instances aside. Scrolla. May we ask her to
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  please to finish her response. McCauley, you can finish your
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  answer if you had anything else to say, Special Master,
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  I thought you had finished. Do you have anything else
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  to add? Answer? There were young girls, and there was
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  constantly young girls that I know were miners around. I
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  mean only because they were too way too young to
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  even look like an eighteen year old plus question. Okay,
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  I'm not asking about other girls being around. I'm asking
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  about Professor Dershowitz being an eyewitness to sexual abuse with
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  other miners. I'm asking you, from the basis of your testimony,
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  that you know that he saw sexual abuse of other miners.
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  What's the basis for your testimony? McAuley objection, Special Master,
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  you can answer. Answer. The only thing that I can
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  say to that is that there were miners around and
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  did Dershowitz know that Jeffrey Epstein was using these miners
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  for sexual purposes? Yes? He did. Question, how do you
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  know that? Answer? How do I know that Dershowitz knew that?
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  McCauley objection, Borgia, Yeah, how do you know that? Answer?
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  How I know what he knew because he was around
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  Jeffrey Epstein so many times that he would have to
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  be blind to not know what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. Question,
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  So it's your guess as to what Professor Dershowitz knew
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  or didn't know? Right? McAuley objection, argumentative answer, No, it's
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  a fact question. Did you see Professor Dershowitz as a
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  witness to the sexual abuse of anybody you know to
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  have been a miner? Did you personally witness that McAuley
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  objection answer with any other I'm sorry, with any other miners?
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  Did I see him with any other miners? Is that
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  what you're asking me? McAuley objection, asked an answered special
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  master you can answer answer besides the two girls that
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  I considered to be very young, but I don't know
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  their ages. No, I have not seen him personally witness
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  sexual abuse in that circumstance, just to shear fact that
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  the girls were around and he knew the purpose for
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  the girls being around. Question what's the basis for your
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  testimony that he knew the purpose for the girls being around.
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  McAuley objection. You can answer, answer, because Jeffrey used these
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  girls he didn't have friends. There were fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
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  just to hang around with his friends. And like I said,
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  you would have to be blind to not know what
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  he was doing with these girls. I mean, he was
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  arranging massages for other people that I did not witness
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  myself for these girls, and they were miners. So for
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  Dershowitz to be around on so many occasions and know
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  that there's miners around, I mean, it's just common logical sense. Question.
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  So you're making an assumption, right McAuley objection, Special Master,
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  you can answer. Answer. You can call it an assumption.
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  But like I said, you'd have to be blind to
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  not know what's going on. Question how many times did
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  somebody have to come to Epstein's property for you to
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  have the same assumption about that person? McAuley objection, Special
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  Master answer. Answer. I would say the first time they
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  came to the property, there is nude pictures everywhere. These
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  are salacious acts of girls, young girls doing things to
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  each other that would be considered child pornography. If you
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  walked foot into Jeffrey Epstein's house and you went in there,
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  and you continued to be an acquaintance of his, then
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  you would have known what was going on in there. Question,
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  so redacted was in your mind you believe a witness
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  to the sexual abuse of minors? McAuley. Let her finish
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  the witness. Thank you. McCauley, you can answer answer. I
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  don't think redacted participated in anything. That would have to
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  be another assumption. I never saw her witness redacted participate
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  in those acts, but he was in the house of
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  Jeffrey Epstein. I've heard he has been, but I haven't
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  seen him myself, So I don't know. Question you've seen
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  or redacted with Jeffrey Epstein. Right answer at parties McCauley objection,
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  Porgia question, so is it your assumption that she's a
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  witness to sexual abuse of minors? Mcaul objection. Special Master
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  you can answer answer. I don't know if redacted was
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  at the house of Jeffrey Epstein. I know she was
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  at parties with Jeffrey Epstein, So no, I can't say
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  she's a witness. Question is redacted a witness to the
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  sexual abuse of minors? McAuley objection answer, Yes, he would
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  be a witness because he knew what my purpose there
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  was for Jeffrey, and he visited Jeffrey's island. McAuley, please
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  let her finish her answer. Answer there's pictures of nude
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  girls all around the house, at all of his houses,
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  and it's something that Jeffrey wasn't shy about admitting to people.
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  Question is redacted a witness to the sexual abuse of miners?
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  McAuley objection answer, not that I'm aware of. I mean,
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  if you're going to say, why was I there with
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  an older man, then I guess yes she would be.
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  But do I believe that she took presents and anything
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  like that? Absolutely not. I can't say I'm not on
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  grounds to say that. Question. Some people you'll assume, and
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  some people you won't. McAuley objection answer. Some people, I
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  would say, are closer to Jeffrey than others. Did I
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  see redacted hang around Jeffrey as much as Alan Dershowitz, No,
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  I didn't. But Alan Dershowitz was around all the time,
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  so I would definitely say that he was a witness
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  to it. Question is redacted a witness to this abuse
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  of those miners? Answer? You'd have to tell me who
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  redacted is. Question is redacted a witness to the sexual
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  abuse of miners? Answer again, he wasn't around all the time.
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  I only met him once, so I can't say that
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  he is. Thereupon VR defendants, Exhibit number seven was marked
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  for identification. Question, Miss Roberts, you have what's been marked
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  as exhibit seven in front of you. Answer yes, question
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  this is the Daily Mail article titled teenage girl recruited
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  by pedophile and it goes on Do you see that? Answer? Yes? Question.
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  Can you turn to page three of thirty one of
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  this print out. Do you have that? Answer? Yes, I do.
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  Question right above the photograph there it says Virginia disclosed
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  that redacted we're also guests of Epstein on the island.
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  Do you see that? Answer? Yes, I do. Question is
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  that a true statement in the article? Answer? Is it
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  a true statement that I did meet redacted? But I
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  cannot one hundred percent locked down that it was at
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  the island. It could have been New York. Question did
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  you tell miss Churchier that it was on the island? Answer?
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  I did tell miss Churchill that I thought it was
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  on the island, and this is how it was printed out.
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  Question is redacted a witness to the sexual abuse of miners? Answer?
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  I don't know, so I can't say that he is
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  or he isn't. Question do you know who he is? Answer?
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  I know who he is. Question do you know how often,
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  if ever, he was at Epstein's property? Answer? I was
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  never there as an eyewitness to see that. Question Now
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  you refer to nude pictures a second ago? Do you
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  recall that? Answer? Yes. Question start in the Little Saint
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  James Island. Weren't that a property where there are nude pictures? Answer?
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  So there was nude pictures. I don't know how to
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  explain it. You've got a main house. I don't know.
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  Have you seen pictures of the island? Question? Can you
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  just describe it as best you can? Answer? Well, in
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  the main house, not attached to Jeffrey's room, there's a
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  I don't know if you want to call it an
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  entertaining room. It looks like a living room, but it's
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  bigger than that. It has couches, a TV, and everything
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  like that. In there, there's nude photographs all over that room.
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  There's nude photographs. Adjacent to the right hand side is
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  Glenn Maxwell's office. There's nude photographs in there. Away from
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  the house, in Jeffrey Epstein's private bedroom, there are nude
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  photographs in there. Question in these locations where there's nude photographs,
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  is that where Epstein's guests typically go. McCauley objection, Are
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  you referring this one house or it's all the houses? Question?
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  That's what we're talking about. Answer the main house McCauley right. Answer.
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  Right outside the main house is the main dining table.
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  So in order for you to get to the dining table,
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  I mean, you could walk from outside. But considering if
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  you're coming from inside to outside, yes, you would have
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  to cross those Question So did guess of Jeffrey Epstein
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  typically see those nude photographs? To the best of your understanding. Answer,
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  to the best of my understanding, Yes, question where were
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  those nude photographs in the Pond Beach House? Answer? As
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  soon as you walked into the front door, there was
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  a large hallway table, and I would assume my assumption
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  is there is at least fifty photographs on that table,
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  some with nude photographs, some with girls in raunchy. Forgive me.
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  When I say raunchy, I mean lingerie photos mixed in
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  with Jeffrey and some of the privileged people he's met,
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  such as you know, I don't know, like his old
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  girlfriend or a model or a redacted or whatever the
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  case is. But among all those photographs would be nude photographs. Question.
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  And when you say, was it in the front room
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  or the front table? Answer? Like I said, as soon
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  as you walk through the front door of the mansion,
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  the first thing you say, see is the hallway table.
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  On that hallway table, is there? Question? And the front
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  door that you're referring to, is that the one the
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  guests walk in? Answer? Yes? And also upstairs to Jeffrey's
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  massage room, there's a hidden room where nude photographs from
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  the floor to the ceiling, all over, right, So there's
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  not one place of white showing. Question. Let me ask
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  you about that. Answer? And then there's boxes and boxes
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  and boxes and nude photographs. Question. You say, this is
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  a hidden room, what do you mean by that? Answer?
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  It's not a room that you could just walk in
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  and see it's something that Jeffrey would show you. So
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  in the massage room, you've got the shower, the steam shower,
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  the massage table in the middle, and to your bad
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  or my bad left and right. If I was facing
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  this way, it would be my left. It's like a
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  closet top to bottom with nude photographs. Question is this
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  a place that the guests typically went? Answer if you're
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  having a massage? Yes. Question did all guests get massages
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  in this hidden room? Answer? I can't say that all
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  guests did. Question is that where Professor Dershowitz massage was?
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  Answer yes, all right, we're gonna wrap up right here,
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  and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
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  gonna pick up where we left off. All of the
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