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NBA Playoff Predictions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: one oh four of the so called sports analysts. Josh,
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  Speaker 1: it's playoff basketball. How are you doing well?
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  Speaker 2: With that being said, I'm doing amazing because we already
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  Speaker 2: saw one matchup earlier day that was a book versus Pacers.
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  Speaker 2: I know we're a little late to the game with
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  Speaker 2: our playoff prediction episode, but right now we're watching this
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  Speaker 2: very good Clippers versus Nuggets game that's coming down to
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  Speaker 2: the wires. So it's already turning out to be a
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  Speaker 2: great playoffs like in two games already, So I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: excited to what we're about to see.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And also we're a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later because we're more accurate with this stuff. We want
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  Speaker 1: to take our times and be thrilled with these predictions
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  Speaker 1: right here. That's the main reason for it. But like
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  Speaker 1: you were saying, with this Pacers and Bucks game right here,
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  Speaker 1: I know this first game happened and the Pacers they
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  Speaker 1: won one seventeen to ninety eight right here, But overall,
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  Speaker 1: who do you think is winning this series? And like
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  Speaker 1: just kind of give your ideas from just looking at
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  Speaker 1: this series sit.
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  Speaker 3: In well, for me.
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  Speaker 2: What I was trying to identify for the Pacers coming
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  Speaker 2: into this game was how are they going to utilize
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  Speaker 2: the mismatches that Miles Turner presents to the Milwaukee Bucks.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there's gonna be a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: adjustments going into the next into game two. But we
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  Speaker 2: saw it easily exploited in game one, and that was
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  Speaker 2: Miles Turner off the pick and pop. Miles Turner is
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  Speaker 2: a very great catch and shoot, catch and shoot three
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  Speaker 2: point shooter and basically over forty percent on the season
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to catch and shoot, catch and shoot
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  Speaker 2: shots and even within the arc from the mid range,
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  Speaker 2: He's actually pretty lethal from that also, and we saw
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  Speaker 2: them attack that quite a bit in this game in
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  Speaker 2: Game one especially, and Miles Turner really was a mismatch
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  Speaker 2: for the Milwaukee Bucks only having honest because what they
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  Speaker 2: would do Giannis would be guarding Miles Turner and then
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  Speaker 2: they would do a switch and the Miles Turner would
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  Speaker 2: follow the smaller guard pick and pop the other guy
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  Speaker 2: collapses on the other way, Miles Turner wide open shot
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  Speaker 2: and even on the other another players, other players on
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  Speaker 2: this team like a Andrew Nimpard, we saw him kind
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  Speaker 2: of step up to the play in this game and
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  Speaker 2: really get the Pacers going early on. I believe he
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  Speaker 2: had ten points in the first quarter alone, So the
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  Speaker 2: Pacers throughout this entirety of the game really took control
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  Speaker 2: and I don't expect this to carry on the majority
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  Speaker 2: of the series. I do think the Pacers will win
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  Speaker 2: in seven, and especially since Damian Lillard will be coming
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  Speaker 2: back in Game two or Game three. But also the
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  Speaker 2: question mark for me is how healthy is Damian Lillard?
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  Speaker 2: Where is this fitness that where is he at aerobically
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to playing an entire forty eight minutes
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  Speaker 2: of basketball, Because he's gonna have to play some minutes
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  Speaker 2: because what we saw from this first.
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  Speaker 3: Game, they need him badly.
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  Speaker 4: Especially to spread out the spread out, spread, play five out,
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  Speaker 4: have him instead of playing this downhill, Giannis drives and
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  Speaker 4: whoever's open on the outside, he kicks out and hoping
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  Speaker 4: that they get to open three.
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  Speaker 3: This is not a recipe for wins.
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  Speaker 2: I think versus a team like the Indiana Pacers, who's
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  Speaker 2: great in tragition, great in moving the ball, great in pace,
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  Speaker 2: anyone on that team is really a liable threat from
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  Speaker 2: the three, And I think it's just hard to play
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  Speaker 2: with Ian Is trying to play he ball game in
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  Speaker 2: and game out, and having Damian Lillard would definitely open
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  Speaker 2: up a lot of things for a bunch of different players,
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  Speaker 2: some like Gary Trent Junior, Bobby Fortis, and a couple
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  Speaker 2: other guys like that. Even Kevin Porter Junior wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: to have such a role when it comes to off
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  Speaker 2: the bench. He would have to basically come into like
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  Speaker 2: an already steady offense, already steady flow. But as we
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  Speaker 2: saw in this first game, it was really hard for
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  Speaker 2: the Bucks to get anything going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent, and I
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  Speaker 1: just think that this game it wasn't necessarily an anomaly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that because the Pacers they've been
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  Speaker 1: one of the best teams since January first, the best
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  Speaker 1: net rating, and the best offense since January first, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking any of that away. But I just
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  Speaker 1: don't see it another time where the Bucks are gonna
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  Speaker 1: go nine for thirty seven from three and the Pacers
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  Speaker 1: are gonna shoot damn near forty percent from three. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be that big of a swing factor,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: more even. They're both probably gonna shoot thirty four to
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  Speaker 1: thirty five percent. And also another thing, I think that
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  Speaker 1: Tyree's Halliburn not having twenty plus points in this game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring that up a lot right here,
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  Speaker 1: as far as him not having twenty plus points, him
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  Speaker 1: not being aggressive, and they still pretty much controlled this
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  Speaker 1: game the entire time. It's saying something about the Indiana
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  Speaker 1: Pacers because I have two stats here for Tyres Halliburton.
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  Speaker 1: I told you this first one. So Tyre's Halliburton, if
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  Speaker 1: he makes his first shot, he aded just five more
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  Speaker 1: shot attempts per game compared to if he misses his
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  Speaker 1: first shot. And every time Tyre's Halliburton scores twenty points,
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  Speaker 1: they are twenty five and three this year. So that's
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  Speaker 1: damn near like seventy win pace. That's perfect, damn near
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  Speaker 1: perfect basketball right there. But like you're saying, Damian Little
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  Speaker 1: that's the biggest X factor. But I think Giannis he's
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  Speaker 1: developed as a passer this year. I'll say that. And okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think as far as how he's been playing like
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  Speaker 1: these past seven eight games in the regular season, it
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  Speaker 1: was like a Luka Doncic Is esque because he was
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  Speaker 1: able to get the ball out to the corner, averaging
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  Speaker 1: like thirty two, twelve and twelve something like that. In
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  Speaker 1: this game, they made him just a pure score. And
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  Speaker 1: with Damian Lillard when he's back, like you're saying, he can't,
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  Speaker 1: you can't just make him become a pure scorer because
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  Speaker 1: you have Damian Lillard right there, and then he'll get
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  Speaker 1: more one on one opportunities. Then he'll really kill you.
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  Speaker 1: And another thing is the zone that they started to
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  Speaker 1: play in the second half. You saw it be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit successful. So I think they're gonna do that
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  Speaker 1: in this second game. And I think that I know
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  Speaker 1: you have Pacers in seven, but I'm gonna still stick
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  Speaker 1: with it. I'm gonna go bucks and seven here just
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  Speaker 1: because they have the best player and Damian Lillard's coming back.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think there's any point in time in
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  Speaker 1: a game in this series where I could say the
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  Speaker 1: Pacers have the better player. They may have the better
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  Speaker 1: the better two, three, four, five, sixty seven, they might
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  Speaker 1: have those, but I think it just matters as far
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  Speaker 1: as having the best player on the planet.
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  Speaker 3: So I get I get where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 2: That standpoint picking the star, and you kind of took
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  Speaker 2: that same mantra when it came to Trey Young in
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  Speaker 2: the play and who's going to make the bigger play,
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  Speaker 2: and we saw that version of the heat and he
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  Speaker 2: kind of took them to the end, but it ultimately
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  Speaker 2: ended in the loss relying on one guy. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's where the Bucks are at right now. Over
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  Speaker 2: this course of the season they didn't have. Pacers are
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  Speaker 2: third and assists and third in field goal percentage, so
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  Speaker 2: they're always constantly moving the ball, finding the open shot,
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  Speaker 2: and whoever's open is taking the shot. It's not a
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  Speaker 2: selfish type of play, not fish type of battle. This ghostorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm playing attention to this game. But with that the
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  Speaker 2: Pagers being third and assists and third and field goal percentage,
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  Speaker 2: I think that that's a lot to take on, especially
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  Speaker 2: for a team like that like the Milwaukee Bucks, you
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  Speaker 2: know they kind of and even with that, the Indian
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  Speaker 2: Pagers are also top six when it comes to rebounding
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  Speaker 2: the basketball, so they're also up there in all the
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  Speaker 2: upper extellent when it comes to creating better opportunities and
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  Speaker 2: second chess points. And I just think that's where the
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  Speaker 2: separator is for me. I understand they don't have that
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  Speaker 2: goat to playmaker, but Pascal siakam in this game dropping
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  Speaker 2: double twenty five points.
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  Speaker 3: He did his job, Andrew Nimbard doing his job.
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  Speaker 2: And we even saw this last year where I understand
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  Speaker 2: Giannis was out for the series, Damian Lillard only played
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  Speaker 2: three games and it really came down to only the Pacers,
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  Speaker 2: the Pacers just having more bodies out there. But I
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  Speaker 2: just think that's what it is this year again. There's
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  Speaker 2: just more bodies when it comes to deeper into the
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  Speaker 2: roster that can shoot the basketball, who play less selfish basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Because even if you look at the players that the
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  Speaker 2: Bucks do have, Kyle Kuzma had to change his game
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  Speaker 2: from being an on ball player to actually a captain
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  Speaker 2: shoot shooter, and in this game, it just didn't work
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  Speaker 2: out for them, especially in this one. Gary Trent Junior
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  Speaker 2: was nowhere to be seen. AJ Green didn't start coming
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  Speaker 2: alive to the fourth quarter, which I understand though some
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  Speaker 2: of those guys will play a lot better earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the game in these next couple of games as they adjust,
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  Speaker 2: But I just think the way that the Indiana Pacers
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  Speaker 2: moved the ball and play unselfish basketball, especially led by
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  Speaker 2: Tyres Haliburn, who's one of the most unselfish stars in
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  Speaker 2: the entire NBA. And like you said, he hasn't scored
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  Speaker 2: over twenty points. He didn't sco score over twenty points
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  Speaker 2: in this game and they still dominated, so he still
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  Speaker 2: hasn't even reached what he can fully do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you as far as that. And
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  Speaker 1: they have five guys who are shooting thirty eight percent
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  Speaker 1: from three and seven guys who averaged ten plus points game,
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  Speaker 1: so everything like you're saying right there, But I think, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I went with the star in the plan. But also
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit different comparing to one game sample
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  Speaker 1: size to a seven game series. You could have way
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  Speaker 1: more of an effect on a seven game series. And
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  Speaker 1: I just think if if Damian Lillard wasn't coming back,
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  Speaker 1: I would say the Pacers, I would say the Pacers
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  Speaker 1: are winning this. I would say that for sure. But
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the Pacers are gonna go up
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  Speaker 1: two oho two. Honestly, I think Andy's gonna win at home,
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee's gonna win at home, and then the game seven,
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  Speaker 1: that's when I have Giannis. That's why I have Gianni's
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  Speaker 1: taken over. So that's how I have it going. So
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  Speaker 1: if you had to, like guess how these games are
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  Speaker 1: gonna go, do you think Andy wins the next game?
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  Speaker 1: Because you said Indian seven.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, Indian seven. I want to lean towards
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  Speaker 2: six a little bit more now I convince myself with
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  Speaker 2: this argument, but I'm gonna stick with seven. I just
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  Speaker 2: I do respect Giannis that can go NW clear anytime
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  Speaker 2: he wants to, especially with Dame Dame Miller coming back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming back with the with the opinion that what
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  Speaker 2: happened to Chris Donne he just got popped, or I'm
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  Speaker 2: just coming in with the monster that I just think
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  Speaker 2: that with the thought that Dame Miller is going to
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  Speaker 2: be Damian Lillard, not just some lesser version of himself
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  Speaker 2: coming back from injury.
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  Speaker 3: And I do give them game seven.
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  Speaker 2: But where I'm at with this, I think the Pacers
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  Speaker 2: win all the games at home, and they would play
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  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee for Game seven, and I do think they
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  Speaker 2: walk away in Milwaukee. So I think they win three games,
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  Speaker 2: at least one game on the road in Milwaukee, and
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  Speaker 2: that that one game on the road is going to
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  Speaker 2: happen in Milwaukee after they go to two games Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: al lose two games in Milwaukee, one game in Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: and then win Milwaukee for the final game.
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  Speaker 3: And that's that's where I'm sticking with.
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  Speaker 2: I just think and even if you look at last
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  Speaker 2: year's series, these guys were a lot younger the A
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  Speaker 2: Pacers with Aarony Smith Andrew Nimpart and even last year
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  Speaker 2: they were missing Benedict Matherin. So there's also another score
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  Speaker 2: added to this team to play them, and they dominate
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  Speaker 2: the books all season every single time that they played.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is true. But I just think
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  Speaker 1: another factor that I'm going to bring in here, like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying with Miles Turner, I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Brook Lopez as well as far as or I'll put
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  Speaker 1: it like this, whichever big man can shoot the three
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  Speaker 1: better is going to drastically change the landscape of each
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  Speaker 1: game a game by game basis. I really think that home.
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  Speaker 1: My bad, I got distracted by this game too. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let me focus in on this because I know I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little bit ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Where are you at right now? Time wise?
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  Speaker 1: Forty seconds left?
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  Speaker 3: Damn, bro, I'm like fifteen seconds behind.
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  Speaker 1: You're fifteen seconds behind.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really at fifty seconds right now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let me let me look at it.
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  Speaker 3: Let no, look, it's hustling right now.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, Yeah, no, Russ, He's had a damn good game
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  Speaker 1: so far. But I just think, yeah, whichever big man
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  Speaker 1: could shoot the better three is going to impact this
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  Speaker 1: game drastically. And I just think that if Brook Lopez
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  Speaker 1: has a great day, then the Bucks are gonna end
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  Speaker 1: up winning. If Miles Turner has a good day, though,
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  Speaker 1: yeah he did, He sure did turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's so I'm like, let me just look straight,
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  Speaker 1: Let me just look straight at the camera. Maybe that'd
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  Speaker 1: be looking.
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  Speaker 2: At this after this one, Nick and Pistons, but at
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  Speaker 2: least it will be that one.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully we're on the same but at least.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be the first quarter. It won't be nothing, it
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  Speaker 1: won't be nothing different. So as of right now, it's
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Clippers Nuggets, first game right now. So that's
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  Speaker 1: why we're talking about this. But any more takeaways? Oh yeah, Also,
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  Speaker 1: one more thing I want to say, Gianni's them limited.
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  Speaker 1: Giannis to one assist is a great way to start off,
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  Speaker 1: is a very great way to start off. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that's going to be consistent there, because at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you let Giannis keep going,
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  Speaker 1: it could potentially get ugly where he could drop fifty
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  Speaker 1: sixty points on you and you can't control it. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's something to look out for too,
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  Speaker 1: if you just let Gianni's continuing to be a score,
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  Speaker 1: because you see this with guys like SGA. They wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be a scorer, and they wanted to be a
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  Speaker 1: score yo kids. They wanted to be a score without
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  Speaker 1: getting the team involved. But at some point it could
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  Speaker 1: kind of backfire on you. So I think that's an
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  Speaker 1: interesting point to to look for in this series.
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  Speaker 2: But anything else, No, I think we've covered all bases
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  Speaker 2: that we can right now, considering what we were able
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  Speaker 2: to see in Game one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, let me flip to my notes for
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  Speaker 1: this game that now.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking into the probably the biggest argument we're gonna have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where you're at. I don't know where
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  Speaker 3: the score is at on your end.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, okay, next, let me let me let me
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  Speaker 1: just go and transition over all. Right, next, we're going
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  Speaker 1: into the Clippers versus the Nuggets right now. I know
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  Speaker 1: Game one is going on right now, but just what
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  Speaker 1: have you seen so far through through three and a
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  Speaker 1: half quarters from this game? What are you thinking about
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  Speaker 1: this game and how this series is going to turn out.
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  Speaker 3: Well for me?
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  Speaker 2: For starters in this I'm gonna just go into what
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  Speaker 2: I've seen from this game. I saw a domination early
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  Speaker 2: on from the Los Angeles Clippers. We saw them basically
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  Speaker 2: scoring at will whenever they wanted, but it seemed like
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  Speaker 2: their effort dropped off quite a bit and they should
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  Speaker 2: have been up by a lot more in the first
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  Speaker 2: half if James Harden made some easy layups to and
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  Speaker 2: easy looks that he was getting, and then early on
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  Speaker 2: Kawhi and James Harden both got into foul trouble, so
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  Speaker 2: it kind of helped them back a little bit more,
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  Speaker 2: and if eacha. Zubac was doing very well against Nikola Jokic.
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  Speaker 2: But as we saw, the Nuggets went on a couple
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  Speaker 2: of runs, some ten oh runs, thirteen to two runs
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  Speaker 2: that kept them in the game, and they just capitalized
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  Speaker 2: on that.
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  Speaker 3: Going into the second half.
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  Speaker 2: They were been able to kind of keep the Clippers
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  Speaker 2: within arms length and then when it came into the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter, they really overtook the lead. They overtook the
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  Speaker 2: lead from from Los Angeles Clippers, and I think it
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  Speaker 2: just comes down to effort. I think what we were
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  Speaker 2: seeing from the Clippers early on is what they can be.
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  Speaker 2: But then they started getting too comfortable and that's when
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets capitalized.
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  Speaker 3: As let's just say.
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  Speaker 2: A championship team, they have, they have some experience around that,
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  Speaker 2: especially with Nicola Jokicic and Jamal Murray, and they've been
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  Speaker 2: able to get other guys open to get them other shot,
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  Speaker 2: get other shots, especially with Aaron Gordon, and I feel
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  Speaker 2: like the Clippers kind of fell off the pace a
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  Speaker 2: little bit that they had early on, especially from James Harden.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I think that was the
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  Speaker 1: biggest thing. James Harden getting in foul trouble. That's what
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  Speaker 1: really that's what's impacted this game so far. And also
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  Speaker 1: the I think that the Denver defense is showing something
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  Speaker 1: they haven't well, they showed up the last three games
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  Speaker 1: of the year, but they're showing it in this game
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  Speaker 1: right here. As of right now. The scores ninety six
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  Speaker 1: to ninety five right now, So I can't talk about
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen in two, three, four, five, maybe seven.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Well, should we just react to this? No, no, don't react.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll let you see it. I'll let you see it. Yeah,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: let's just react to this. Let's just react to this.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: What do you want right now?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Thirty twenty eight seconds, twenty seven seconds, twenty Washington may
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: No way, bro, listen, I know, I know, bro. Whose
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: man's is this? Bro? They call it time out right away?
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they called the time out right away. Oh my goodness.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Or you know what? You know what I'm gonna do? Okay,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you're on twenty three point four seconds right a timeout?
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm okay.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I rewinded it back. So we're kind of on the
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: same Are you watching the replay of Russell Westbrook or
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Jamal Murray's dribbling the ball?
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Right now? Jamal Murray just got the ball.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I'm still a little bit behind your.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Russ is shooting it right now?
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Did he just make it?
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I pause it where we're kind of on
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the same link. It's not live for me no more.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I could have just done that the entire time. I
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: could have just done that the entire time. Yeah, but nah,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: it's good, all right.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I can't believe we just wait till the.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, let's just let's just wait. So as
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: of right now, scores ninety eight ninety six. I think
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: the last time we that a live reaction was.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: A long time. Last playoffs?
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Was it MAVs? Was it MAVs and Wolves? Game four?
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: No?
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I know it was one of the Western Conference games.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: I thought it was one of the championship games.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Was it? You know what it was? It was game
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: was it was game one or Game two? It was
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: something like that. But I don't think this game was
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: as good as this. Okay, are the Clippers on the
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: floor now or or where are you at?
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray is talking to the coach right now, and
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: now they just went to the baseline. The ref is
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: getting them situated.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, does the get to be passing?
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: He just gave the ball to Nicolas But Jim hard okay.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on the same who.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: James Hardened, James Harden.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: We just playing the game, bro, James Harden and Russell Westbrook,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the two guys who are stepping up in the playoffs.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: In the playoffs right now, something you don't expect. No, disrespect,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: but no disrespect. But that floater was nasty.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: He was getting better looks in the first quarter. Bro,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: But see, I think this is a good thing right
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: here that we're seeing from the Nuggets. They're showing a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: sign of being able to play high level defense in
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Can they do this game in and game out? Can
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: they guard? Do you think they can guard heavily like
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: this game in and game out for a seven game series?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: But but now, let me flip it to you on this.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think that the Clippers can guard the Nuggets
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: as well for another four or five games?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I do, because I think they were doing this. They
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: were a top five defensive team in the entire NBA.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: For the best offense.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: But hear me out.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I know the Clippers, based off the whole season range,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: all of season rank, were the fifteenth best defense in.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: The entire Since I've seen that last twenty one games.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Mark, I've heard all of that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the number one offense in the entire NBA since
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard has come back.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get that. All right, You're okay, cool.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Let's let's watch this last eighteen point seven so okay,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: this is this is clearly I think a Jamal Murray,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic pick and roll and.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Nah, it's gonna be Christian Brawn.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I think they're not gonna get into a real set
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: to like ten.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: They're not gonna let They're just gonna yo. Shoot, don't foul,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Chris done, don't foul all Oh Rus, Russ.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Russ, what are you doing? Oh my goodness, Russ.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: He was trying to the foul Russ.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Russ. Okay, we're in the overtime.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: All right, now, let's just talk about this series real
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: quick now that they're gone.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: All right. Yeah, So so for me.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Clippers in five. I think the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Clippers what they have done been able to do. They
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: are a top five defense in the entire NBA, consistently
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: game in, game out all season, even while missing Kawhi
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Leonard for a lot of the season, and then even
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: like we just said, over the course of March, of
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the last past twenty one games, they have been the
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: number one offense in the entire NBA, led by James Harden,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and over the last five games of the season he
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: had twenty nine He averaged twenty nine points, eleven assists,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and nearly eight rebounds.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: That's vintage James Harden.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: He's at his best right now and shooting forty seven
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: percent from the three. I think I understand that the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Clippers they have nik Lei Jokis quote and Jamal Murray,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and Jamal Murray has stepped up to the play We
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: expected playoff Jamal Murray to come into full fold. But
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I just think what the Clippers have to offer depth
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: wise as compared especially when it comes to guys playing
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: their roles and scores, especially defensively, they have the better
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: defenders from top to bottom, especially with Derek Jones, Norman,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: how Chris is done, all these guys that can guard
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: on the perimeter and kind of switch off to different
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: players like Christian Braun and even Jamal Murray and kind
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: of rotate on these guys so they can conserve some energy.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I think they just have a deeper roster. And then
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: if we look at the wing players, I just I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: think Nicholas Batoum, I know, at old age, he's still
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: a good defender, still a great spot up shooter. And
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: then if we look at Kawhi Leonard and James Harden.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that the Nuggets have a consistent
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: option to guard Kawhi Leonard and James Harden game in
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and game out. I know there's not an option ever
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: for Nikola Jokicic, but if there's a better player all
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: time statistically, they if it's a guarded Nikola Jokic, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: want you to find me one, because they're and and
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: then even that, what I've been noticing is they allow
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: each a zuboch to kind of room around, put a
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: smaller guard on Nikola Jokic, and then he rotates for
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the help. So it's also they're playing some kind of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: mismatched basketball right now, and I think the Clippers will
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: capitalize gaming and game out, and honestly, I think they're
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: gonna win five games.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: So I'm comp on the opposite side of the spectrum here.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: This is two games, right or I guess there's consistency
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in what I'm looking for in a playoff series. I'm
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: looking for the best player and what do I don't
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: know what Russe was doing, and I just think that
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: there is a gap as far as depth wise. I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: will give you that for sure. And there's more consistent
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: play like you don't know what you're gonna get from
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: even Jamal Murray. He has nineteen points right now. Aaron Gordon,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: he's really been that number two. Michael Porter, he hasn't
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: been as aggressive. Christian Brown.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: You don't know.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, you definitely don't know what you're gonna get
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: from him. But I just think that having the best
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: player in the planet, let alone in the series, is
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: gonna do wonders for you. And I just think he's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the main catalyst right now, Like just look at what
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: he's doing twenty seven, eleven and nine right now, And
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I think I think this is a good sign of
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: them being able to play defense to this level because
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it's showing that their offense they could find a way
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: to get going. I'm not worried about the Nuggets offense
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: in all honesty. I think that they're gonna find a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: way to get going because you have the best player,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. He's gonna have a couple of games where
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: he looks like he has thirty forty points. The biggest
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: concern for me is David Adelman, and as of Game
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: one right now, the in game adjustments I feel like is, Yeah,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like Tyron Lou he's one of the best.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: As far as that right now, he cannot get rolled
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: up on.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that right there, interrupting you, but like
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: he almost No, you're good.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: You're good, okay, Aaron Gordon dunk.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, spot now, so that's good, okay, yeah, spot. Hopefully
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: commercials don't screw us over.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Also, I want to I want to look at this
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the guys that are on the court right now. So
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Christian Bron, Jamal Murray, Russell Westbrook, Nakolajokic, Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: He isn't even in the lineup right now, So I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: think that's saying something right there. And then compared to
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the Clippers, you have Kawhi, christ James Harden, Zubac and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Norman Powell. Do you think that we're gonna russ for
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: three due?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: He got confident.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, is I think Michael Porter Junior is
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: getting subbed and subbed out because he's not offering anything
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: defensively against any of these Clippers lineup.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I agree with you right there. I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: think he's too small for Kawhi. He should be able
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to guard a Norman Powell but on paper he should
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be able to guard him. But just when you're actually
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: in the game, that's not actually possible.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: This didn't turn into like a preview of this series,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: just turned into a review of the first game.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: No for real. Aaron Gordon, Oh my goodness, you have numbers,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Jamal Murray three.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: They should have attacked Russ rebound get big.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: That's a foul.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: That's a foul.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: In the same way, how you're saying that Nikolajokic is
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: bawling like I said earlier, James Harden right now twenty seven,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: eleven and six, like he is. He's doing the same
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: amount of work as a nikoliokicch.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I get you, But I just don't
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: think that he's as as effective as what Jokic. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: feel like Jokic he could put his imprints all over
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the game compared to Zubac. I know, defensively and he
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: scores points, but as far as getting others involved, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I just think that I just think that the experience
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: in matters here. I know Kawhi has the experience. He's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: really the only one with championship winning experience. I'll put
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it like that winning experience. This whole Nuggets team. They
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: have winning experience in this starting lineup right here, even
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: though Michael Porter's not in. I think the biggest swing
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: factors is gonna be what are you gonna get from
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a Peyton Watson, A Jalen Pickett, Russell Westbrook and Michael Porter.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I think Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray Jokic, those are the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: guys that you would consistently count on. Chris Dunn.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: But even in that same Stanse Garrick Jones Junior has
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: put in an NBA championship, Norman Powell has won an
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: NBA championship, So there is still some championship pedigree on
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: this Clippers team that have been there before. Tyron Tyron
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Lou has also been an NBA championship head coach, So
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: it's still the same amount on the other side, Like
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and we're talking about I know James Harden isn't a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: winning basketball player when it comes to the playoffs, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: it's James Harden. I don't know, like he's as experienced
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: as it comes in the entire NBA. Ooh Kawhi with
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the nasty was nasty, that was nasty.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Looks in the early on in the game, but they.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Just kept missing. Detroit's up one to three versus oh no,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: one zero Now it turned three one, all.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Right, Oh that's it Detroit and four.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Yep, Aaron Gordon tough layup. Okay, one O five, one,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: O two two, twenty left right now, well now twenty
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: So I guess we're coming to be a disagreement on
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: this series. Yeah, once once again. So I think I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: have the Clippers in five still, and then I don't
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: know where you're gonna where you're at with the series.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So I have this going to seven again.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: If they lose Clippers in six, Sha, stay and say
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Clippers and six, I'll get the Nuggets to Clippers and six.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: See, Okay, I understand Clippers, and I think that was
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing you saying Clippers in five. That's where
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I think Nikola Jokic is too dominant to only win
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: one game in this series. I think I think this
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: is going seven, and I'm saying this right now. I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: still haven't decided till right now. I'm going with the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Nuggets and seven. I know it's not the move that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: everybody's going with. I know everybody's going with the Clippers
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: in this one. But I think that the Nuggets they
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: are the better or they have the better player, they
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: might not have the better team. And I just think
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I'll put it like this, the Nuggets, if they probably
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: get to the second round, they're not gonna do as
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: much damage compared to the Clippers, who have more ability
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to do damage against these other teams. I'll put it
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: like that. Okay, minute thirty left, pull up three.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Oh no, he's driving. Foul.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah they call the foul floor caught on the floor, Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: on the floor. Okay. So, man, well, this is kind
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of hard to talk about a series whenever, whenever words
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: talking like or when it's going on right now in
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the middle of game one.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: But I feel like we gave enough analysis.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah guess yeah, okay, but after this one will be good.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: We'll be good. Yeah. No, we're gonna Detroit New York games.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be well.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: At least that's at least that's the first quarter.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Though it's not.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: No, it's not no fourth quarter. Minute twenty James Harden
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: perimeter drives.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Jamal.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Because you picked the Clippers, because yeah, you're so strong.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Oh rush, guys, now has to get that right there.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: He has to.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: It was a good defensive play, but still you gotta
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: finish the job.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: They're blitzing Jamal Murray. I don't know if that's the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: best Christian Brown. That's a big three.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: That's big right there.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: That's that is a big four point game. Fifty nine
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: point five seconds left.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: And next serieson. Let's move on to the next series.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You're ready, all right?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Well, no, we can continue, but they're gonna they're going
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: to like commercial break, yeah right now?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, So you had Clippers and six
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and I had Nuggets and seven. I'm trying to write
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: down our predictions so like we could just see where
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: we go from there. Okay, you had the Pacers in seven, right, yes, okay,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and I had Bucks.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I guess they're not going to commercial.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh they're not.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: No, mine hasn't gone.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, now, let me just ask you this then. Let
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: me just ask you this. Then, So do you think
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: who do you think it's more important to win this game?
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Right here?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Do you think obviously I know you think Denver is
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: not gonna win this series? So do you think if
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Denver wins the series, does it does it change anything
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in your eyes? Here?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Like like when's the.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Overall landscape of this of the playoffs general, no, of
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: this series, right here, of this series, they think, Yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: do you think, Okay, will Nuggets have a better chance?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Nuggets and six. That's why I upgraded
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: it to Nuggets and six instead of Nuggets in five.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: So yes, I think it will change the out look
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: of the series because I think the Denver will at
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: least get one more at home.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, Harden and Leonard, dang it, that was a quick
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that was a quick read. He didn't even let score
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: scored all points in overtime.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is the points and overtime Harden, Kawhi.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And James Harden.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: This need a big possession for the Clippers.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: They have to get a bucket right here.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: If they don't, it's pretty much pretty much job. The
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: largest lead of the game for the Nuggets game.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon on Christian Broun.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Kawhi, christ Oh, that's no. They're both going for the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: ball right there. Okay, I'm sorry. I know Chris done.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: He has been making his well, I don't know his
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: last two three point attempts. They haven't been made, but.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: They're blitzing him again. Like you said, they're blitzing Jamal.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: They're not. They don't respect Russ that's why.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're they're sagging off. They're even sagging off.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: A Christian Brown still kawhi. James Harden. James Harden, Oh
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: my gosh, this is vintage James Harden.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: They're blitzing Jamal again. Dude, they're not even passing it
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to us. You know that wasn't a foul. Oh they
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: got lucky right there in the clippers.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Oh they just Norman pal just fouled Aaron Gordon.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: He had to bro, time is running out.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: No, there was still a shot clock. Oh no, there wasn't.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: There wasn't no. After the rebound it went away. It
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: was less than fourteen.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw yesterday how Aaron Gordon
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: looked before the interview. It looked like this dude got
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: jumped or something like. It looked like he got beat
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the hell up.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: This one? What if he makes what if he misses
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: this one? Right here?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Now, he's gonna make it. He's gonna make it. I'm
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a hater mostly because Ryan and I bet ten Okay,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: so Ryan, Ryan and I we bet ten bucks on
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the Bucks spacers. I put Bucks on game one. He
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: had pacers and we did this. Oh then he picked
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Clippers and I picked Nuggets. So I'm hoping we washed
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: we go into tomorrow's games. I hope we're going into tomorrow.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: So what do you think the drop is gonna be?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Right here? For the Clippers? A screen for Harden?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I think James Harden for sure, or like a get
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: from Kawhi Leonard, screen from Norm Powell.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: James Harden plays free lancer, catch and shoot three. I
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: think that's where it can go.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I think the ball. I think James Harden is gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: inbound the ball and then it's gonna be him and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: dribble handoff. However it looks from there, No, I think
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: just a dribble handlef that's just a natural screen right there.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And I think if if James Harden has a more
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: favorable matchup, if they switch, then Kawhi he he takes
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that three point shot. But if not James Harden. But
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: if I'm the Clippers, I want James Harden to take
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: this shot.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I taking this shot. Nicholas, Nicholas, but.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Do you mean already do where you're going? Right, there, No,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I man, I just think the Clippers bean up fifteen
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: in this game in the and what was it the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: early second.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: We're already at thirty two minutes and we're only not
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: even past the second series.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I think I think his game, Yeah, what is down already?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: It should be over already.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. What Russell Westbrook fifteen points, five
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to seventeen from the field, eight rebounds, three assists.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: The he's doing his job, I will say, like he's
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: off the bench as the main ball handler, he is
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: doing his job. But some of the shots he is
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: kind of taking, it's he's being ultra aggressive in the transition.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I think that's also setting up the Nuggets in good positions.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Also so like and you don't have the Clippers defense
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: gets set?
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, came out. What's going on with this guy?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Do we're trying to get our podcast movement?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Do you think did they sell them? Did they sub
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: him out? What happened? All was his nose bleeding? All
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: his nose is bleeding.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't know him and Zubashka from the same country.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: This game, Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I did not know that. Oh yeah, Joki's nose is bleeding,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: That's what it was.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: He's gonna play with that in his nose? Is that
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: even legal?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I guess it is legal?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Going now? Is his no bleeding too? Take along the defense?
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: They probably took him.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Off for maybe maybe that's what I'm thinking, because is
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: he on the court. No, they put in Elf, Peyton, Watson, Oh, Russ, Russ,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: he stole the ball. Look at Russ Russ, game went
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: in plays.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: James it was.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: It was out on James Harden. It was out on
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: James Harden. Game winning plays by Russell Westbrook right there. Meanwhile, Yoki,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: let's see then, let's see. Oh, that's off of James
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Harden's fingertips. That's off of James Harden's fingertips. Man, let's see,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: let's see.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's James James Harden.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it looks like the Nuggets are gonna walk
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: away with this one, because even if the Clippers, whoever
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: gets the angle is kind of weird right there, that
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: angles showed a little different.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to keep it on the Nuggets. Yeah, Okay,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you don't think they review that one?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think they were. Well, Tyron Lou has
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: no timeouts.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: So, but but the don't the revs have the authority
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: to kind of.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Just like.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Do have right here?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Chris, No, it's a foul. He's a dog, bro Chris
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: dog bulls legend, bulls legend, Chris dunne.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Hey, if y'all kept them, maybe y'll would have beat
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: the beat the heat.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Mmm too soon, too soon, Josh, too soon?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: No, but I just someone would have been able to
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: guard Tyler Hero.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: That is true. Nobody, nobody on our team pick guard
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Tyler Hero. No, but I just think that.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: No, but this is game. Knock these two down.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Let's let's at least see him make the first one.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Let's let's at least se him make the first possession.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Game right here?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's game, Okay, possession game, six and a half
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: seconds left. Nuggets are gonna walk away with this one.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I just don't see the Clippers any anyway in hell
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: coming back from this one.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, all right, well let's go to move
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: on from this one. Also, by the way, Ryan, we split,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna be betting games tomorrow. I know you're
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be listening to this. I don't know when, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be betting again. Tomorrow on another game something
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like that. But let's go to move on to this
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Knicks and Pistons game right here, normal pal that's crazy.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I know there's no time, but Dorman Palace to make it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: That is crazy. So one twelve one two.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Clipper. This was gonna hurt for the Clippers.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: This was gonna hurt because they definitely dominated early on
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and just let the let they let the Nuggies back
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: into this one eighth.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Fifteen point comeback in the playoffs since twenty nineteen, I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: bet you four of those are the Lakers in the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals because they got swept and they were
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: up in every single one of them. Then last year, yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: last year, those those two of them, actually, yeah, those
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: two of them excellently.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Let's move on to this next game. You really wasted
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: at least probably twenty five minutes one.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Sorry, it was a good one.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: It was worth a dedicated you're gonna watch, y'are gonna
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you are going to listen to that with us, So yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: it's worth just skip ahead. We'll probably put that a
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: little disclaimer. Yeah y'all just want to skip past. We
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: should probably do that. I don't know if you can
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: enter into the episode, Yeah, into thirty seven minutes if
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you just want to go.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I book marked it. I book marked it already. Yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I know, all right, Nicks and Pistons right here. So
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the young team and the Detroit Pistons who weren't expected
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: they were expect like twenty five wins before the season,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and the nixt had high expectation before the season, trading
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: for Michael, trading for kar Anthony Towns. So what do
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you see from this series and who's winning?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: As much as I want to see the young team
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: kind of win this series, and I think they will
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: put up a great fight. I think it will be
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: a fun series to watch. I think the Knicks are
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: going to win this one in six. I just think
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: because Kate Cunningham outside of him, there's not a real
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: go to threat to score the ball or get the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: offense moving. Everyone's kind of reliant upon what he does.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: The defense is very good. I just can't go against
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the veterans. The veterans on the other side, like a
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson who is coming back healthy, who we know
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: what he can do in the playoffs, seen it last season,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: what he was able to do, kind of dig deep
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: when it matters the most. I think Towns will flip
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to another, flip another switch in this series. But there
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: is kind of a mismatch when it comes to the interior.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: That's where Diston's half the advantage when it comes to
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: rebounding do to size. But I will lean towards the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brunton side of it all, especially with the Michel Bridges,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: who I believe will step up more in the playoffs,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Josh har og And Andoby who has been on a
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: tear in the season in you just just got to
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: get some lead in the stands and he's gonna go crazy.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So but hey, Hey works for me too, I guess.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: But he's a better man than you, Bro, I'm just
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: gonna say that. But yeah, I'm going mix and six.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, I guess this is our first agreement right here.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I have NIX and six as well. And I think
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the biggest is this is a every time you see
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a star or a superstar first time in the playoffs,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you see they get tested in a different way and
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: usually it doesn't go well their very first time in
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think they're gonna be doubling Kid Cunningham.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I know he he has nine almost ten assists a game.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: But I just think that they're gonna get the ball
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: out of kid's cutting in his hands. And if Malik
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Beasley hits eight threes, if Tim Hardaway Junior hits eight threes,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: if Asar Thompson, Tobias Harris, these other guys hit threes,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: then they're gonna live with that. I just think everything
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: is Kate Cunningham, You're not gonna beat us. I think
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna be. So it's gonna be all
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: about the others in this one. And the Pistons, their
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: defense is definitely there. Their defense is definitely there. I'll
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: give them that. They have one of the best defenses
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: and their physicality can win them two games in this series.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: That's why I have Nixon six. So I'll say this,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: each one of these games are gonna be competitive right here.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I'll say that just because the defense is going to
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: keep their offense in the game. But I just think
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the only the slim chance I have for the Pistons
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: if they could find a way to win this series
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: is Caid's Cunningham shooting, because he's been great this year
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: as far as shooting the basketball. But I think his
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: three point shot is going to need to be a
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: little bit better. Thirty five percent from three, that's not
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the best. If he could get that up to forty
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: forty two, which we see stars do in the playoffs.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: If he could do that, then I could see them
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: potentially pulling off the upset here. But as far as
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: who I think Kate should be guarded by, I don't
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: think Michel Bridges should guard him. I think he's too small,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: he can't impact him physically. I think it needs to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: be Ojananobi.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I think that's what That's what I'm looking at right now.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Ojib is actually waiting for him at the half court
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: line for him to bring the ball up, And I
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: think that's what perfect.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Where are you at, Kate Cunningham's barely getting the ball
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I'm at four to twenty seven. League Beasley has the.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Ball, Okay, okay, okay, never mind want the same driving? Okay? Yeah?
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Does they a store dunk?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: He was like, wait a second. I'm like, I'm like,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you got ahead a little bit, but nah, all right, But.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I do like that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Dennis Schroeder versus Jalen Brunson matchup, not off, not on
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the other just like kind of defensively, Dennis Schroeder versus
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, I kind of I like how that looks.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: The Pisses do offer a lot against the Knicks, I
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: will say, like they do offer. I just think the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: experience on the Knicks side hold a lot more weight
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: for me than the Piston who are still trying to
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: figure out how to be here.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just think, Yeah, Tom Thibodeau, he's one
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: of the best defensive coaches in the league right now,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna try to attack or he
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: They're gonna try to attack Jayalen Brunston and kar Anthony Towns.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: But I just think that it's all gonna be dependent.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Can Ogo be, Ken mckel bridge, Ken Josh Hart fight
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: over those screens there and make it tough for Kate Cunningham.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: And another thing, is Kate Cunningham gonna wear down in
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: this series? I kind of worry about that. I kind
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: of worry about that with Jalen Brunton too. Honestly, can
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: is Jalen Brunt's is gonna wear down? Because it's gonna
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: be Dennis Schroeder then it's gonna be Asar Thompson, then
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham at time, so there's gonna be bodies stone
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: at him. They got it back, and I think, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Stewart could be a problem for for
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns physically wise, I'll say that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I'll say physically, I don't know these last three possessions.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, their defense knows how to kick it
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: up a notch. That's the reason they're gonna be in
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: these games. Honestly, I see three or four of these
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: games being in the nineties, like like being in the nineties,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: like ninety five ninety six is ninety six ish game
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: right here. But yeah, no, I just think too much
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: star power, too much experience. I'm gonna just have to
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: go Nick here.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Knicks really exact same reasons.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: As much as I want to see the Pistons kind
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: of make some noise in the playoffs, I just think
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: they're they're a piece away. They're a piece away from
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: being a real a real threat in the East. Yeah,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: a couple of pieces definitely to play against the Celtics
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and the Cavaliers. But I believe there's still another star
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: away from a kind of being a real, a real
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: contender to get out.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Of the East.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, and then they better do it,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: because they went shopping this summer. If they it's gonna
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: be a failure if they're out in the first round,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: especially to a young team like the Pistons.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Imagine if the Knicks loses, what can you do?
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: No draft picks, But you showed them all for Michel
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Bridges getting next everything that they sent you all back.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Very last resources for kro Anthony Towns. Yeah, man, you
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: know how much that sucks for the Knicks. If they
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: waited another another two months, they would have realized Kevin
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was on the trade market. Yeah, if they
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: if they waited just a little bit longer. No, but
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: all right, are you ready to move on?
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's move on to the next one. I think
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be the interesting topic.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be the interesting one right here.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: And it's the last game of the night right here.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: So Los Angeles Lakers versus the Minnesota Timberwolves right here,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So kind of same thing we've been saying. And what's
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: your prediction for me?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Lakers in six, and I'm
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: giving the benefit of the doubt to Anthony Edwards. On
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the other side, I guess I should have give the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: benefit of doubt more to Nicola Jokich for the same reasons.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: But I think Anthony Edwards is gonna have one or
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: two games where he kind of just goes scorre to
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: earth and he leads the Minnesota Timberwolves to a nail
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: bider game over this Los Angeles Lakers. But we look
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: at the team as a whole. From the Minnesota Timberwolves,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I just think there's not enough. Julius Randall doesn't offer
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: anything for spacing, he doesn't offer anything offensively. So far
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: this season, he hasn't been really taking a step back
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: without col Anthony Towns, who kind of fit very well
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: against the the play of Anthony Edwards, where Anthony Edwards
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: likes to kind of drive in and kick out to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: players and there's a wide open car Anthony Towns for
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: a three. While on the flip side, this year, Anthony
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Edwards is doing a lot of the shooting and he
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: left the league in three points and three points made,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: so it's been quite quite of an adjustment and Rudy
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Gobert really offers nothing offensively ever, being completely honest, that's
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: one of his biggest things. That's why they call him
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: playoff Rudy Gobert. You don't trust him, and you know
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: last year he kind of put this wrong. You don't
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: trust him. But last year he kind of proved this
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: wrong a little bit when it came to playing defense.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: But this year, can you keep that up again? Did
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the Lakers on the other side, I mean, we talk
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: about them.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Pod and pod out.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: It's just they offer too much, especially with a two
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: man game with Luca and Lebron James. Lebron James playing
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: that five spot some games kind of allowing Jackson Hayes
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: to switch off a lot of the same ways that
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Jason taem is used on the Boston Celtics. He plays
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: that five So when the smaller guard is up against
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes, they said a screen, Lebron James switches to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the smaller guard and Jackson Hayes's guarding the big it's
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a mismatch. I think that a lot of people did
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: not take into account when they made this move. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: know Mark Williams would have probably added another bigger piece,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: especially offensively for this Los Angeles Lakers team. But and
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Hayes to step up to the plate, and I think
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: that's a that's one of the main reasons why they've
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: been so successful is his what he's been able to
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: do offensively, especially in the pick and roll game with
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: both Lebron James and Luca don Chicks. But not only that,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I just think there's there's a there's a dude out
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: there that's gonna have to step up outside of those two,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: and that's gonna be Austin Reeves. I think Austin Reeves
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: is gonna go. The Lakers are gonna go as far
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: as Austin Reeves is, as as far as Austin reed
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: is gonna be able to provide coming as that third
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: coming from that being being that third option that Luca
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and Lebron James need, especially when it comes offensively in scoring.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: My bad, those those words are getting a little twisted
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: up right there. I I heard something.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I heard something that's sound a little.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Bit wrong right there, bro All right, No, okay, in
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: all seriousness, I think that the Lakers strengths they meet
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: up perfectly with the Minnesota Temples weaknesses. And I'll tell
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you this why because defensively for the Minnesota Timberwolves, their
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: strength is their perimeter defense and their rim protection with
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. But we saw this last year in the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals. Nobody could really be a threat to
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Luka Doncic because of his ability to be forty fifty
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: pounds heavier than Jada McDaniels. Then to kill Alexander Walker,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: then Julius Rando, he's too slow. The only guy that
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: could really stay with him is Anthony Edwards, And yes
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: he could guard him, but you don't want him guarding
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: him the entire series because he's gonna have he's gonna
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: have to do so much offensively for you. So maybe
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you try Julius Randal, Jaden McDaniels, a mixture between those two.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: But even after that, you have to worry about, all right,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: who's guarding Lebron. Is it gonna be a Julius Randal,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: which it kind of matches up physicality wise, it does.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Then you have to worry about Austin Reeves. Is Anthony
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Edwards gonna guard Austin Reeves. Yes it may be good
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: at first, but then he's gonna wear down after a while,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: or potentially get in the foul trouble because Austin Reeves
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: is one of the best guys as far as getting
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to the line surprisingly and he's not even a superstar.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: And okay, I've been seeing a bunch of stuff as
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: far as Rudy Gobert, He's gonna get played off the floor.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And okay, I agree with it to some sort. I
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: want to ask you in a second, Josh, But okay,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert, if you switch against Rudy Gobert and you
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: try to attack him, he's actually one of the best.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: It's just Luka Doncic in Game one hit that step
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: back three, which it was still a tough shot to make.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: It will still a tough shot. The way to play
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert off the floor is to have a smaller
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: lineup where you have where you have Austin Reeves, Luka Doncicz, Lebron,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Ruey Hachi Mora, and Dorian Finney Smith. And the reason
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: why I'm saying that is because Lucas shoots thirty eight
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: percent from three. Ar Bron they shoot thirty eight percent
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: from three, and Ruey hot Chimore and Dorian Finney Smith
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: shoot forty percent from three, So Rudy Gobert won't be
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: able to be in the paint. So if if you
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: have Rudy gober in that paint, good luck letting Rudy
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: hot Chimoor in DFS kill you the entire time. That's
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the way he's gonna get played off the floor. And
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: another way is attacking Mike Conley. So the reason why
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that is because Mike Conley he's been the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: only guy that's really been able to unlock Rudy Gobert
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: offensively in Utah in Minnesota. So if you have Rudy,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: or if you have Mike Conley on Austin Reeves and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: he's not providing nothing for you defensively, he may be
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: off the court. And that's the only chance Rudy Gobert
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: has has to be on the court. Really, So my
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: question to you here, Josh, before I get back to
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, do you think it's gonna be Do
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be as bad as people are
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: saying Rudy Gobert he's only gonna get like twenty twenty
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: five minutes in this series, or or you're not buying that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna have to almost agree.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have to play a lot of
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: smaller ball to keep up with Lebron James and looking
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: at Don Chic, I understand they're not really pushing the
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: pace consistently from those two, but I think when it
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: comes to moving around offense, it's it's becomes a lot
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: to handle because there's even there's even possessions where it's
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: just Luca on the court, and automatically when Luca comes off,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Lebron James is coming to handle the ball, and it's
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: is Rudy Gobert gonna be able to deal with all
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the switches, especially if they do stick to man to
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: man or that he is he gonna be able to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: handle all the switches, especially if he handle if he
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: gets stuck onto a Luka, Doncic or Lebron.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: James one on one.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I know.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I think that's the separator.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I think even in Austin Reeves, Austin Reeves is very underrated,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: especially when it comes to a playmaker and creating shots
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: for himself. It's gonna be hard for a lot of
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: people to do that. And I think Anthony Edwards they
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: have a defensive squad the Minnesota Timberwolves do have. Yeah,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: but the thing is keeping up scoring wise and finding
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: another option outside of Anthony Edwards. That's gonna be the struggle,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I believe for the Minnesota timber Wolves.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And Okay, that kind of leads me to the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: point that I was saying, as far as so with
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves offense right here, I think the Lakers
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: defense it has been good, but I think it's okay.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to take this out of context,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: but it's not a good defense like individual like the
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Timbwlves. It's more as far as helping off the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: man that can't shoot, cutting off the baseline, cutting off
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: driving lanes. It's like that. It's a really smart and
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: sound defense. And what they're gonna do in this series
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: is they're gonna double An, They're gonna blitz at tons
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of time throughout this series right here, and they're gonna
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: make him become a playmaker. And at times Anthony Edwards
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: he looks like he's taking that step to be the
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: next play a next great playmaker. But then there's other
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: games like the one game against Milwaukee and Minnesota where
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: it was a thirty to two run and they blitzed
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: at the entire time, and it's like he was in
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: his rookie year all over again. So what type of
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: consistency are we gonna get from Anthony Edwards there? And
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: with that being said, I think that the Lakers are
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: winning this in five.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think so.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I think that there's gonna be close games all throughout
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: this entire series, But I just think the more clutch
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: team right here is the Lakers. They're by far one
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of the best clutch teams. They're up there with the
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Celtics and the Thunder, So I think it's no different.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I think even this first game right here is going
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: to be back and forth the entire time. But I
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: just think the Lakers are going to pull through midway
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter and just not look back. Is
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: there any other talking points you want to talk about?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I just think I think this is going to be
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: the year where Luca and Lebron James are able to
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: kind of get over that hume, especially having another playmaker
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: that kind of does a lot of the same things,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that can pass the ball. On selfishness from both of them,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I just from what I've seen Luka donc is a
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: hitting that ceiling, hitting what he can do like over
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks of the season and dropping
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: thirty one in the first quarter nine by the third quarter.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: He's he's getting to where where I where I ranked
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: him the second best player in the world. Why I
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: have him as the second best player in the world
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: behind me Glee okicch is because what he can do
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: offensively and having Lebron James has eliminated so much pressure
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: off of his shoulders that I think we're getting about
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: to see another level from both of them when it
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: comes to the playoff time, especially getting healthier. Luca Donson
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: is only getting healthier, more in basketball shape as the
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: games go on.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Lebron James.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely that was definitely big for them.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Missing the play in and having home court. They got
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: what damn near a week and a half because they
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: didn't play that last game right there, So damn neel
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: week and a half worth. But all right, let's go
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and move on to the one and two seed matchups
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: right here that we figured out after the play in,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: So the Cleveland Cavaliers versus the Miami Heat right here,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the Miami Heat. They beat the Bulls sadly, and then
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: they beat the Hawks in a crazy overtime game.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Right here.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: They're the first ten seed to actually make the playoffs
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: right here. So I think we know who we're going
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: to pick in this series. But what are just your
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: overall thoughts.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I have the Cleveland Cavaliers in five. I will give
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: the Miami Heat one game where Eric Spolcher does his magic,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Tyler Herrold takes over. Bam has probably a big game,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: But this is a matchup nightmare for the Miami Heat
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: versus the Cleveland Cavaliers because a lot of the things
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: that that Miami was able to do to get into
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: this game with the Trey versus Atlanta Hawks and then
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: versus the Chicago Bulls. But Bam was able to play
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: outside of the paint. He was able to guard a
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: smaller player. He was able to play on Josh Giddy
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: really keep up with him athletically. But if you do
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: that and you put him, let's say, on a Donovan
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Mitchell on a Darius Garland, you're leaving two towers on
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: the inside wide open by themselves. And khaleil Ware I
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: just don't think is quite ready for those type of
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: matchups game in and game out, to be guarding a
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Jared Allen, to be guarding an Evan Mobley, and Band's
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: going to have to probably guard Evan Mobley for the
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: majorit already of this game, and it's gonna leave a
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: lot of opportunities for Jared Allen versus Khalil Ware. And
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I just don't think Kalel Whare He's gonna be a
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: good player in the NBA. I think we've already seen
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: the glimpses. But to handle Jared Allen for a seven
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: game series, especially trying to kind of play on the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: offensive En, it's gonna be hard for any matchup. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Tyler Harrow, he was able to go scorch earth against
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls. He was able to have a good
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: game versus the Atlanta Hawks. But what we saw from
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawks was where they were able to play
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: small ball lineup, create a lot of opportunities for themselves
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: versus the Miami He beat them in the runs, beat
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: them in transition is what we saw later on into
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: that game. The Cleveland Cavaliers have that tenfold. They have
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Donovan Midgel, they have Darius Golland, who can run this
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: offense when one's off the court. The other ones on
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: the court Evan Mobley, who is a mismatch for almost
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: anybody in the entire NBA. If there's one guy that
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: can probably match up against him is Bam. But then
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: at least a lot of opportunity open for the rest
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: of the players on the other side. And the only
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: thing that I have to disconnect with is who's going
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: to guard you on on the week. It's just just
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: a question because they present too many mismatches that the
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Miami Heat just don't have answers to losing Jimmy Butler,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: and it's going to take a big series from Andrew
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Wiggins for them to even be, like I think competitive
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: in this series.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, kind of going off your last few points,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: so I'm picking the Cavaliers in five here, But I
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: just want to point out a little bit of stats
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: right here as far as to kind of give a
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: little bit more optimism for any Miami Heat fan. So
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the Miami Heat they ran fifteen or they played zone
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the time, and the Cavaliers saw seventy
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: two out of those one hundred and fifty possessions of zones,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: so they've seen it a lot. And the Cavaliers offense
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: averages one hundred and twenty two points a game compared
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: to against the Miami Heat, they average one hundred and
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: fifteen points a game, So that's a seven point drop off.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: So there's something there with Eric Spolsher where he knows
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: how to play against his team. One hundred and fifteen
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: is still a lot of points, but it goes from
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the best offense in the league to middle of the pack.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: And then since January first, the Cavaliers have been fourteenth
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: in defense, twenty fifth in defense rebounding, and the Cavaliers
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: as of right now, they're shooting forty six percent from
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the field compared to thirty seven percent from the field
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: to their opponents. They're holding them too. So I just
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: think that the Cavaliers. No, don't get me wrong, the
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Cavaliers are going to win this series. But there's gonna
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: be some games. I think there's gonna be more games
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: than not where the coaching of Eric Spolser is just
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: gonna pop out and todder Hero is gonna have those
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: games where he's gonna step up.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: I see that one.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're winning one for sure, But I
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be another couple of games where it's
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be close in the fourth quarter and we don't
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: expect it. But it's no disrespect to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: It's more respect to the Miami Heat and what they bring.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And just a few more things I want to pull up.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: So the Cavaliers last year, they went from averaging one
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen points to one hundred and four in
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Then they went from shooting thirty seven percent
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: from three in the regular season to thirty one percent
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: for three in the playoffs. So is there still gonna
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: be a drop off? This is the playoffs now. I
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: don't know if the lights are gonna be bright for them.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I know Jared Allen said that a couple of years
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: ago or something like that, the lights got too bright
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: or he said something like that. But that's gonna be
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: my biggest thing I'm looking for the series. Not necessarily
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: are the Cavs gonna win? But is there gonna be
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: a drop off?
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: This?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Is this gonna be the same offense? Is this gonna
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: be the same defense that we've seen in the regular season?
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, But no, other key factors to
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: take away in my opinion, unless you want to say something.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Else, Josh, No, I just think the Cleveland Cavaliers they have,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: they have too much to offer versus the Miami Heat
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: to go against them.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well let's go to move on to this
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: next one seed right here, the Oklahoma City Thunder versus
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the Memphis Grizzlies, right here on which the Grizzlies they
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: retained that eight seed after listen to the Warriors, they
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: beat the Kings or no Mavericks Mavericks, my bad. They
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: beat the Mavericks here, so obviously again both know who
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: we're going with right here. But what are your initial thoughts?
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be the first one of
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: the first This is gonna be, for me, one of
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: two sweeps in the in this early on playoff series.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I just think that the Oklahoma City Thunder is too
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: much of an answer, too much about mismatch. For the
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Memphis Grizzlies.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: I think we saw them kind of dominate versus this
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: this Dallas Mavericks team. Anthony Davis went scort to Earth
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: and and still didn't matter versus this Memphis Krizzies. But
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: this is also a Dallas Mavericks team with really nothing
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: to offer and create and with really nothing to offer
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: and nobody to create offense from the perimeter, and that's
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Shay Gilders Alexander on the other side of the Oklahoma
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: City Thunder. And I understand Chet Holmgren isn't to Anthony
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Davis's level when it comes to offense quite yet.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a Grizzlies.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah you said, yeah, I'm still making the comparison.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Chet Holmgren isn't quite to the level of
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: an Anthony Davis yet when it comes to creating offense.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: But I still do think he's able going to put
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: that work in against anybody that the that how you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: threw me off, that that the that the Grizzlies had
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: to offer. I just think Jared Jackson Junior. I understand defensively,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: he's able to match up against a lot of people.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: But there's also Isaiah Hartenstein there who likes to play
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: in that pick and roll situation and just the outside
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: shooter that they have there in Oklahoma City with I'm
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: not with an Isaiah Joe with with the Jaylen Williams,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: with all that they and then Chet Holmgren is also
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: able to take you out to the perimeter and shoot three.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: So the Oklahoma City Thunder, I think for me to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: offer too much answers to whatever the Grizzies can throw
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: out them. And I know, I know they still have
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: probably adjusted without him, but Jayleen Wells, I think is
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: a part of that big perimeter defense that they really
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: need to match up against, like a Sea Guilds Alexander
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Gamon in game out.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and my bad. I didn't mean to throw you off.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: It's because I started watching the game a little bit
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: then I heard you're going on about Anthony Davis. I'm like,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: oh shit, did I have to say the MAVs on accident? Yeah? No,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: that's that's my bad right there. But okay, I just
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: want to say something. So I'm listing like all the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: lineups right here, and I just look through and usually
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: there's like an eight nine man rotation for each team
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But then I look at the Oklahoma
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: City Thunder and who could really play for them? So
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: obviously have Shay Loud or j dub che iHeart. Then
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: you have Alex Caruso, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Kenrick Williams, and Jalen Williams. You have eleven guys who
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: could actually get burned, and depending on their matchup, they
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: could be they could be pivotal guys in that specific game.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: And seven of those guys shoot thirty eight percent from
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: three or better. Their worst guy in their lineup is
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Alex Caruso, who shoots thirty five five percent from three.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: And Amaker more than anything.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and thirty five percent from three. That's nothing
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: to slack at right there. That that means you're an
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: average shooter. They shouldn't leave you open. So I think
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: that shows everything about the Oklahoma City Thunder here. And
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, this is gonna be a sweep.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I think there's not really gonna be any game that's
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: close here. I think by third quarter it's gonna be
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: out of hand unless uh, I don't even see John Morant.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I think Lou Door is gonna clamp him up. It's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: just too much of a mismatch. Okay. Only thing I'm
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: gonna ask you here is do you think they start
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: both chet and and Isaiah Harvin Harvenstein here?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Since I think it's.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Whatever, I think it's whatever. The Grizzlies will present. I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: think we've seen them do this multiple times versus different opponents.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: They've started both of them. They've said they've set heart
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: and side in the beginning game, they said chill homeer
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: at beginning of the game. I just think whatever the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Grizzies offer, they're gonna match it in a certain way.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: And I just think point twice. The Oklahoma City Thunder
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: are the four fourth in the entire NBA this season. Defense,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: they've been number one. Their opponents on score the third
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: most amount of the third least in the entire That's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: kind of weird how they put it. I hate that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: they put like the staff like the third like I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: don't know how to explain it myself. Only allow the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: third worst, the third least amount of points.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Third best defense in the league.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Defense, it comes to their opponents scoring and number one
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: as a whole because they get the most steals and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: their opponents don't do very well against them defensively either.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Their opponents act are in the bottom five when it
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: comes to assist when it comes to steals, so there's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: not a lot of second chance opportunities.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Breakaway points. There's not a lot of just extra buggets
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: that they give up to other teams. And that's where
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: the perfection I think of Mark Dagnall is created for
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: this Oklahoma City Thunder that they're always on. They're always
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: on it when it matters the most. And I just
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: think in a seven game series where Themphis Grilles Grizzlies
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: have to match that, when John Moran isn't that strong
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: of a shooter, and I know the interior is going
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: to be packed out with the Oklahoma City Thunder and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: constant rotation, it's going to be hard for the Grizzlies
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: to create anything, I believe.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. But let's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: go ahead and move on to this next series right here,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: which I think I'm kind of figuring this is the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: other one that you're gonna could consider a sweep right here.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: The Boston Celtics versus the Orlando Magic right here. So
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Magic they beat that on the Hawks. In the plan,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: they pretty much dominated the Hawks and in the fourth
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: quarter got a little bit close, but Magic they end
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: up blowing them out midway through the fourth quarter.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: So same thing.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts from this one and how far
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: is the series going.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I just don't think the Magic are gonna be able
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: to get Cole Anthony scoring twenty six points to help
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: get them over the versus the Boston Celtics, I think
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics just much like the thunder R versus
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: the Grizzlies, I think it's at a higher level versus
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: the Orlando Magic. I understand Paulo Benchero is a really
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: good player in the NBA. He's gonna be good, But
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: match against Jason Tatum one on one, I'm taking Jason
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Tatum on both offense and defense almost every single time.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: And just the depth that the Boston Celtics have to offer,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: both offensively and defensively.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: You go from a lineup that could consist of Drew Holliday,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: who's gonna be back in almost full health for this series, right.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: I think he's believed he's gonna be back fully, Drew Holiday,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Derek White, you have you can move Derrick White to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: the bench, you can start Derek White. There's gonna be
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, and then dude, it just goes
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: on and on. Peyton Pritchard, Sam Howizard, these guys all
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: in o their roles, shoot threes, get find the open guy,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: and keep doing that over and over and over again,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: and just break your opponents will That's what the Boston
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Celtics play. They play We're gonna shoot thee out so
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: y'all can't keep up with us anymore. And that's the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: recipe that they've had the entirety of the season, especially
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: big man wise. Al Horford plays perfect basketball most of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the time. Blue Cornett's played very well the season. Christophe
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Brazingis offers a mismatch for anybody that the Orlando Magic
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: has to offer when it comes to the interior. I
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: don't think there's an there's a guy on the Orlando
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Magic that can really guard him one on one on
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: the interior. It's just too many miss matchics. And then
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: we even see Jayson Tatum play at the five sometimes
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: where they can rotate onto, rotate him onto the smaller guard,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: and just constant rotation defensively that Joe Mozoula has to offer.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: The Boston Celtics are gonna win this one quite easily.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: So I agree with you, the Boston Soldiers I win
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: in this one, but I'm gonna give the Orlando Magic
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: one game and the main reason for that is because
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: their defense.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, their defense is I say there, okay, I.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Say their defense with there's KCP, there's Franz, Paulo, Windell, Co, Anthony,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Gary Harris, John Isaac, Anthony Black. Those guys all know
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: how to play defense. Like for sure, they know how
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: to play defense. And one thing is that they they
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: could be able to switch. So I think this series
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: is gonna be more Well, the Celtics or offense doesn't
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: look as good because the Magic's defense. But I don't
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: think the Magic's offense can replicate enough points for the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Celtics defense to be in a bind here. But I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be one game where Pollow and Franz
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: they have it going. Their shooting is gonna be scorch earth,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be able to get one
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: game preferably. I think I was leaning more towards Game three,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: but I think game four they're gonna be able to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: to win that game.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like last last second, last hole type of win.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a last hole desperation something like that. But
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: also one more thing to look at it in my opinion,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, how is his knee gonna look. I know
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: he had some a shot in his knee, I think
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: a week and a half, two weeks. I don't know
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: how that is. I know he's been resting a lot,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about that. What do
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: you do you think this could be something big down
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: the road? Right here as far as with Jalen Brown.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I think they I think it doesn't matter for this series,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: but down the line, when you have to play a
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: faster squad offensively, Let's say that the Pacers get by
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: or if Dani Lillard's a little bit more healthier in
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks. Even on the other side, when you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: look at some of the other matchups with the Pistons
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: offered defensively, or the New York Knicks are able to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: do scoring the bath squall, I think Jalen Brown's probably
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: gonna have to be a lot more involved in those series.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna play the Cleveland Cavaliers early on, so
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about that to the Eastern
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Conference Finals. But out of all these other teams that
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: they may have to play or get through, it's gonna
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: be a hard matchup to go against without a Jalen Brown.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I think the Celtics are good enough depth wise to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: get past all these teams, but Jalen Brown makes their
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: job a lot easier in this series. I believe that
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: how you were saying that the this is why I'm
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: still sweeping. I know the Magic have arguably the top
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: they have the top raking defense, but arguably the best
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: defense in the entire NBA. Yeah, but the disconnect is scoring.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: The other these other teams do offer scoring in some way,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: shape or form that the Magic do not, and that's
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: why I think that may post some problems for the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Celtics down the line.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I agree with you one hundred percent,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: but Okay, I'm just I'm just thinking, if Jalen Brown
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: he doesn't look healthy, I don't think he's gonna get
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: any healthier unless he rests. Would you would you even
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: throw out the possibility here of letting Jalen Brown rest
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: his first series if need be, I think so.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I think Derek White has shown that he can feel
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: in perfectly fine and take on a bigger role in
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: this In this Boston Celtics offense and defense, he offers
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: everything that Jalen Brown does, but at a lesser degree.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I will say so. I think I think Derek White
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: can feel in perfectly, especially throughout the entirety of this series,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: for the Celtics even get the job done.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to asked that because no respect
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: to the magic right here. I just think the Celtics
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: are just too good. So there's not really many talking points.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there does not have too much debt like anyone.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Peyton Prichard and Sam Howser off the bench are going
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: to shoot the lights out like it doesn't.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Matter, even out or Yut Horford.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: But even when al Horford starts, they're That's when the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Celtics I think are at their best is when aut
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Horford is actually in the full fold of the starting lineup.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, damn thirty What is he? Thirty eight, thirty nine
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's that old, but he's old.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I thought he was, you know what, let me check
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: really quick. I swear he was up there in age
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: how Horford age thirty eight years old?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Oh he's up there. Yeah, I was thinking thirty six.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know why, but yeah, so thirty eight we'll
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: still get it done.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of another thirty eight year old. As far
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: as this last matchup that we're about to go into,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets versus the Golden State Warriors right here.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: So this one, everybody, they really have the seventh seed
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: right here, the Golden State Warriors winning this matchup right here.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: But what what are your prediction from this one right here?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: The young team versus experienced team, Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: versus the young Rockets.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Who's winning A while very simple, I put I have
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: no idea. Josh, the exact same thing right here. I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: have no idea.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: I have no idea who's gonna win this series. I
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: really don't feel comfortable picking either either either option, I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: think both teams. This is gonna be probably the closest
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: series we're gonna have. I truly believe that when it
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: comes to veteran having the top five player all time
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, and Stephen Curry on the other side
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: of the ball, the best shooter of all time, Jimmy Butler, playoff, Jimmy.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: You don't never know what you're gonna get from Jimmy
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Butler in.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: The playoffs, and it could be absolutely the best player
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: in the entirety of He's like the best player on
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: the planet when it comes to the playoffs, and Jimmy
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Butler Draymond Green is definitely gonna want to get the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: job done defensive win. He offers a lot of mismatch
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: problems versus Alfred Singoun. But on the flip side, the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Houston Rockets offer a lot of mismatches and problems for
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: the step for stefand Curry and the Golden State Warriors,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: especially when it comes defensively, And I think the disconnect
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: from the two is that the Rockets don't have that
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: that give me the ball type of score game in
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: and game out like the Warriors do when it comes
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: to Jimmy Butler and Stephan Curry. But they do offer
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: guys everywhere that can get the job done, and guys
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: like Jalen Green and Alfred skin Hun who and certain
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Knights can take over and play like a top top
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: fifteen player in the NBA.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying they are, but they get up to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: that type.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Of level in certain games throughout the season, and I
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: believe they can do that multiple times in a playoff
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: series when it matters the most, and especially defensively led
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: by may Udoka, they offer debt defensively, especially when it
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: comes to I think that four rank that five and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: four the power forward and center positions with Jabari Smith,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Tari East, and Alfred san Gun they offer and Dylan
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Brooks even plays up also, they offer those type of mismatches,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: and I think that would pose problems for the for
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors because these guys are also very athletic,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: they move around, they can guard smaller positions and even
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: switch off and interior wise, I think that's going to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: be the struggle for the Golden State Warriors, and especially
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: having a guy like a Men Thompson who will probably
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: shadow Stephen Curry for most of the game and make
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: it make it stop, stop stop. We're not doing that
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: right now, and am in talk. You can make the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: job a little bit harder for Stephan Curry, especially if
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: he's chasing him around the entire game and offering a
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: size mismatch. He's Stephan Curry, So you're not gonna You're
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: not gonna stop Stephan Curry, but you can definitely cause
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of problems.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, No, for me, I don't know.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I'm picking still Okay, well, I'll give you a little
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: bit more time because I'm still on the fence right here.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: So I think what everybody's going to bring up right
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: here as far as for making a case for the Rockets,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: They're going to bring up Am and Thompson holding Stephen
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Curry to three points in this last matchup. But I
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: think that's really unfair. That was for three games and
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: four days and they just beat the Lakers. They just
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: beat the Nuggets, so and the Rockets they were coming
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: off a couple of days of rest. So it's really
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: an unfair assessment as far as to what to expect
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: from this game. But just looking at the clear picture,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, the Warriors, they easily have the two
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: best players in this series right here, but everybody else
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: outside of Draymond Green, the Rockets have the better players,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: and they have the better depth. But the Rockets also
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: have a defense, athleticism, and physicality advantage in this series
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: right here. Yeah, and in transition, like I was saying,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: transition and rebounding, that's the biggest advantage for the Rockets
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: right here. And I think that, Yes, the Rockets half
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: court offense struggles, but the Warriors, they've always been a
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: team that turns the ball over a lot in the postseason.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: This has always been, if you want to say, like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: a signature mark for the Golden State Warriors. Other than
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: like the great ball movement, the three point shoot in
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: revolutionizing the turnovers is also a part of it. The downside,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: there's always They've always had at least twelve to fifteen
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: turnovers damn near in the game. And one of those
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: teams you don't want to do that against is a
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Houston Rockets. They make you pay in transition. So I
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: think this is why these games are gonna be close.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: And after that it's gonna come down to can the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Rockets be because I think there's gonna be a lot
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: of clutch games in this series right here. Can the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Houston Rockets generate clutch bucket whether Jalen Greed, whether Fred
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: van Vliet, whether whether it's alburn Sengoon, it's one of
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: those three guys because they're gonna sag off of Aman Thompson,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: off of Dylan Brooks, those guys who are gonna be
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: in the game. So those guys are gonna need to
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: make their shots. And I just think Jimmy Butler, he's
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be the main guy in this series right here
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: in order for them to win. Steph Curry is not
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: gonna is not gonna kill the Rockets. Yeah, the email Udoka,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: he saw. The last time we saw Steph Curry in
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: or overall in the series was twenty twenty two when
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: they won the championship, and we saw what Steph Curry
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: did email Doka. I'm pretty sure he's telling this, Tom
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: and Thompson, Fred van Vliet, Dylan Brooks. Steph Curry is
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be blitz or doubled no matter what, whenever he
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: touches the ball, whenever he passes half court. So Jimmy
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Butler is gonna have to capitalize on those one on
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: ones and get to the free throw line. And that's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: another thing I want to ask you about Josh So
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Against the Grizzlies, Jimmy Butler had eighteen free throw attempts.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen exactly in the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: playoffs here, because I know the playing tournament's pretty much
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, But I don't know how much that's gonna happen.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: So do you think the calls are gonna be going
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: the same way or or do you think it's gonna
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: be a little bit tougher.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that happens is because the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: double teams that do happen on Stephen Curry. I think
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: we saw the Grillies trying to do that as well,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: especially trying to keep him contained, especially off ball. They
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: didn't want they were denying, denying nine. So that left
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler a lot a lot of the times with
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: one on one mismatches, And that may happen versus the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Houston Rockets where he gets a one on one mismatch,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: drives to the basket and gets fout, And it's just
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: gonna happen with the with the veteran the type of
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: player that Jimmy Butler is, who who's kind of relentless
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: on the offensive end when when it comes to playoff basketball,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: and I do see him getting to the line quite
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: a bit, especially if Stephen Curry's not the primary ball
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: hindler in this series.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also one more thing, the double big line
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: or two more things. Actually I want to bring up
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: this one first. I know I said the double big lineup.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second. Jonathan Kaminga I
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: feel likes to play. Yeah, that's the biggest X factor
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like when you're facing a young athletic team,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Kaminga has to play in this game.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: And he's gotten DMP the's past two games right here,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: so I know he said he has to play, But
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: how much do you think he could actually impact this
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: series here?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: I think it just adds an extra runner, especially in transition,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: to help like kind of keep up with a player
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: that can keep up with the Houston Rockets, because I
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: know these other guys they're not they're not that old,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: or they can't they're old, but they can still keep up.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: But a guy that can kind of play play in
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: and play out if the Rockets do get into transition
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: and be there at the rim when when players are
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: full sprint to the to the rim to make a layup,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: there has to be a guy that can keep up transition.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I think John the kamina And is definitely gonna have
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: to be one of those guys that is playing.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, and all right this last thing that.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Especially rebounding d versus the Houston Rockets, he's going to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: have to be in the game.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's damn near seven foot.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: I think it comes down to rim running and transition defense.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: That's why they need John and Kamina playing.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. And like
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I was saying, with this rebound right here, the double
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: big lineup of Steven Adams and alburn Sengoon, so whenever
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: they're on the court together, they're the best rebounding team
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: and the second chance points as they get. I think
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: that whenever Steph Curry goes off the floor, you're gonna
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: be able to get away with this lineup right here,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: because like I told you before, Brandon Pozemski, you respect
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: him as a shooter. But Jimmy Butler, Moses Moody, Draymond,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Gary Paye, and Kevon Looney, whether Gie Santo's Quinn post,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: you're gonna let those guys shoot those open threes. So
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: they have great shooters, but they don't have an overall
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: great team. That's the difference there. So I think this
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: double big lineup that's gonna be interesting thing to look
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: at here. But okay, if you I want to ask
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: you this too. Okay, So I have the Warriors lineup
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: right here. If you only had to pick an eight
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: man rotation here, I'm gonna list all these guys for you.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: So they're Steph Curry, Brandon Pazemski, Jimmy Butler, Moses Moody,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Draymond Green, which is the obvious, right, Then try to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: pick three three guys out of these, Gary Payton, Buddy Hill,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Kevon Looney, Gie Santos, Jonathan Kaminga, and Quinn Post. If
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: you had to pick three guys out of those five.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I think Buddy Hill is definitely gonna have to be
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: a factor in this series, especially offering another mismatch offensively,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go him. Then I'm gonna go also
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: with Gary Payton, because Gary Payn offers a lot of
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: the dirty work.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: He has. He's the he's the effort guy, he's the rebounder,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: defensive specialist. The thing is he doesn't offer much shooting,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: and that's gonna be that's gonna be the problem. The
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Quinton Post.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Quentin Post definitely has shown a lot what he can
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: do on the interior, and especially versus a guy like
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Alfren sing Moon, he can kind of not not I'm
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: not saying he's gonna stop him, but he offers the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: same athletic, He offers almost the same athletically to be
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: able to put a body in front of Alfred Singhud.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, but all right, Josh.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: And Smith when it comes to the interior as well,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: yeah for sure.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: All right, Josh, it's prediction time here. Who is winning
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: this series right here? Or okay, I'll go I'll go
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: ahead and say it. I'll go ahead and say because
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I know who mine is right here, So I say, Rockets.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Actually.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Got you got yours.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: We are a biased sports podcast, and I absolutely hate
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: hit the rock Houston Rockets, So I'm going the Golden
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: State Warriors in six games.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Josh, I had that exact same pick right there. So
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I have the Warriors and excuse me, I have the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Warriors and six right here, and I think Houston they
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: win game one, the Golden State wins Game two, and
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: they win game three, in game four, Houston they win
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Game five to have it go back to Golden State,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: and then Golden State they close out in game six.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: I just think there's too much star power in having
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: the two as players in the series right here. It's
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: gonna just it's gonna just do so much for them
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna help the Rockets eventually.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: So all right, that's a podcast. We are biased when
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: you see this man. Yeah, this man, mister. I didn't
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: even know this guy that here. It's like the cover.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I never knew he was on a slam magazine.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only when he was ever on mm hmm.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, I never heard that nickname before Iceman.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: And that wasn't him.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: It was like the it was a.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like a dedication to like George
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: the Iceman Gervin. You know, he was sitting on the
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: thrown and he had the two basketballs. It was kind
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: of like the same.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: I believe he was still like like in his thirty
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: year when this came out, so like they were doing
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: like a like kind of like a an homage to George.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, see I didn't know that right there. Well,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: all right, this next one we have right here as
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: far as we were gonna make a top ten list,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: but this was too competitive of a top ten list
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: and to actually rank players that could benefit from winning
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: a ring right here. So Josh, we'll just go back
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: and forth right here.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you go to say, let's just make
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: it easier. Let's go series by series and kind of
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: just pick player players out Okay, from that, I feel
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: like that'd be a little bit easier, you know, Okay,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: kind of let's go like bugs versus pacers.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Be honest, I feel like if Jannis were to win
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: another ring, I think, honestly, that would do a lot
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: fair I think that would put him kind of close.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: To the top. We're talking the ranges.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the I say, like the nine to thirteen area,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: where like the Kevin Durantz, Hakeem Olajuan, Nikolai Yokicic's like
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of these players kind of sit right now.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: People are gonna get back this Larry Birds.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be in that type of conversation
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: after he wins this ring in the argument are really
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: there for him to be the in that tense spot
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: all time because where he offers defensively.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: This year he's playing MVP season.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't for Nicola, Jokics and SGA, I think
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: the front runner for MVP would definitely be Yo honest
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Joannest and adding that other rings to the one he
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: already has, guarantee he would win the finals MVP.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: It would do a lot for his career. Yeah, and.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go to a little bit of a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: different series. Right here, I'm gonna stay in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Jason Tatum from Okay from this one,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, if he if they went back to back championships,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming he'd win finals MVP in this one. Even
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't, he's already contensus top five player. You
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: could argue up to top three. He'd have to be. Yeah,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: he'd have to be the best player in the I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: know NICOLEA. Yoki is putting up crazy stats, but you
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: can't argue with the fact if you win back to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: back titles on the best team in the league, still
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: winning over sixty games, he's a proven winner. Yes, in
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: the ailie he may be better, but as far as
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: contributing the team success, Jason Tatum would be that number
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: one guy. And the only thing that would really be
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: missing because he has the first team All NBAS, he
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: has the defensive teams. The only thing missing would be
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: an MVP, and I believe next year after that he'd
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: be up. He was even up here. I think he's
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: He's probably gonna finish fourth or no. Fifth, fifth and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: MVP fourth or fifth, somewhere around that range for MVP,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: So I think next year there's gonna be an even
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: stronger case or narrative for him to be MVP if
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: he wins that one, which is on the trajectory of
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: one of the best players all time. I think, for sure,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: just talent wise and just winning, he'd be argued top
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not gonna name thirty players, but thirty the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: top thirty ish, he'd be up there for sure.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a couple conversations that bring Jason
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Tatum into when he does win that extra ring. I
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: think I think, like how you're saying, I'm not gonna
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: give him the best, because there's still an argument with
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Nikola jokicch and a couple of the other players. But
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: I think it definitely instead of being a consensus top
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: three like a Nikola Jokic, Luka don chis an SGA
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: who I think is probably the consistus for most people,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: the top three players in the NBA when they're at
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: their peak. I think he definitely enters that conversation. I
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: think I put him above SGA. I think I would
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: put him third in the entire NBA, behind Jokich and
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: Luca and without but he has more of the championship
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: pedigree than both of those guys combined, you know, and
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: and I think that would do a lot for his career.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: But I think Damien or friend Damien offered a rage bait,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: even though it kind of is probably turned into a
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: conversation where he said that by his career, Jayson Tane
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: will be the best boss of Celtic of all time.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm not getting behind that right now because Bill
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Russell and Larry Bird do definitely exist. But I can
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: see the trajectory to being the top three. But if
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: he has this ring, he's getting a lot closer to
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: the conversation. I think. I do think there's a lot
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: more that has to go into He has to win
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: another championship VPS. Yeah, so lead the league in points
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: or assist. Like those guys are too much on a
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: pedestal for him for that conversation to start right now. Yeah,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: But I do think I think right now I would
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: take him over KG, Paul Pierce, any of those guys
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: for me, I would. I think the only player I
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: would probably argue above him is maybe Kevin mckel right now,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: and I would still have But I think I think
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: he's definitely in that four to five range all time
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: as a Boston Celtic right now.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard for me to really disagree because he's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: had more success with than Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: than any of those guys. So yeah, no, it's hard
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: for me to really disagree.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: But I think the only one of Kevin Garnett's the
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: arguable one. But I'm talking about as a career as
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: a Boston Celtic. He's definitely has a better career as
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: a Boston Celtic than Kevin Garnett.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I agree with you one hundred
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: percent of all the time.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: Wise, that's a different conversation.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: We could have that conversation the other day, but people
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: like to misuse my words all the time. So yeah,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: So Jason Tatum has had a better boss and Celtic
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: career than Kevin Garnett.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: Not career, but Boston Celtic career.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna cut that out. I'm gonna just cut
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: that out in general. No, all right, all right, do
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: you have another? Do you have another one?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, because I thought we were gonna go
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: series by series and players, but we kind of But
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: so I'm gonna stick with the Bucks and Pacers, I think,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: but a little bit real quick, I think the only
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: other option on here would be maybe to a Tyrese Haliburton.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: I think Tyre's Halliburton may move into that that that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: tennis area, that top ten consensus area if he does
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: win another ring players in the NBA, if he not
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: another wing, if he have another ring, if he does
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: win a ring, it'll put him into that top ten fold.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: He obviously doesn't offer scoring wise, but what he's able
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: to do consistently on the offensive end and kind of
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: being a good defender, not a great defender, I think
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: it would definitely put him up there, especially because he
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: would have the accolades to be in that conversation.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, let me go ahead and say this. Then,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, I know he don't know how he's gonna
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: look in this first series. But if they happen to
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: have go on a championship run, I know Johannis he's
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. But Damian Lillard, I don't know
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: where he would be as far as top or Actually,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: let's do this right now. So there's Magic Johnson, Steph Curry,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Steve Nash, Chris Paul, I'm at.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Four, Russell Westbrook.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, Oscar Robinson, Okay.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: Just pot shooting guard.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: I'd say guard. Okay, I would say guard, okay, just
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: to be on the safe side. A top ten point
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: guard of all time.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: Tony Parker's still there. Three.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: You can't deny four rings, the finals MVP. Damian Lillard
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: don't got a finals MVP, but better overall.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Like talent, and who would you want on your roster
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: damis as.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: A pure talent, I probably I'd take Damian Lillard because
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: he's also probably arguably the second greatest or third greatest
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: shooter of all time behind Klay Thompson.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: But four rings compared to as the main point guard
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: on all those teams.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, you know what, I understand the argument because
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Dame doesn't. Nope, he has a bubble mv P. Never mind,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: he does have an MVP bubble m v P. Damian
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Lillard No, But okay, in all seriousness, if he had
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: an m v P and then he won a ring,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: then it might have been a little bit of a
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: different conversation. You could argue, you, Jason, Jason, Jayson, we
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: for we completely see. This is why I said top
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: ten playing in Saved Jason.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas Thomas is the third best point guard of
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: all time, and we gets forgotten about Is.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: There any We already said Oscar Robinson, uh Derreck Rose, no.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: Bro, as much as I want with you, Okay, who
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: who's another?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: I already said, We already said, Steve Nash, We already
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: said would you okay, Alan? Do you have to say,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Alan Iverson?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: Do you overrated player? That's that's what I'm.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm not sure. Okay, hold on, wait,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let my dog out really quick, Josh, like
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: really quick, you're back.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: So where will we put Damian Lillard?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Guys, now that Fonso is gonna let out his dog,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Damian Lillard, I'm going Steph Magic, Oscar Isaiah Thomas.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, Jason Kidd, I'm at Jason Kidd. Steve Nash got
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: six players right there, already have them in there.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: That's six players, So right now I'm at, Yeah, Russ
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: is I'm still taking Russ even with the rink. I'm
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: just saying I'm still taking Russ even with the ring.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: He'd be in that top ten for sure area he'd
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: be in the top ten point guards of all time.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: I think that nine or ten range is where you
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: can make arguments amongst other players for him. Yeah, okay,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: Lebron James.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Shi, you know what You're right, Lebron James. He has
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: a point guard, all right. I don't think Okay, I
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's anybody really from the Knicks Pistons, Magic.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Knix Pistons, Jalen Brunson moves into that same range as
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: are and I feel like Karl Anthony Towns, I don't
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: think it does much for his career right now. Maybe
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: like a Tyson Chandler or or something. Maybe I don't know,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: like it'd be like that's where I probably have him
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: at right now.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe one of it would.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Probably it would booster him, Honestly, it would definitely be
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: like a lot of pressure on Kate Cunningham for the
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: rest of his career.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: If Kate Cunningham has a five scenate.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Waiting the ring with a detrit this year, you know what.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Go conversations Go conversations have to.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Go through a lot of teams to get there. It
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: would probably be the greatest finals run of all time.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine Boston Cleveland.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, see York, l a, your York plays Boston next
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: round cleanly, and then he plays Okay.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: See conference, if you be a Western Conference team, Yeah,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: he would be the greatest of all time.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: That that would be better than like a twenty eight
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: team Bron run right there, So you know what, So
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: hypothetically he does have a damn good shot. Hypothetically, yeah, okay.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: So let's move watch to the next one. Nixon, Piston's
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: really nobody there, Lakers versus Timberwolves, Lakers Lebron James goat
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: status and just add another ring to his resume.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: Five compared to six. It wouldn't be that much of
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: a difference. Played in ten championships. I think I'd rather
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: almost take that. But the interesting store interesting interesting. We
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: already know these two interesting ones.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Right Herenca and Anthony Edwards?
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Luca and okay, what's the first Luca?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Undoubtedly for me? No, okay, you're still.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, what side you want to argue? Okay, let's
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: let's just let's just have a little bit of fun here.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: What side do you want to argue, Luca or would
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: be more beneficial? I'll argue the other side. Pick one,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: and I'll pick one and I'll pick the other one.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: All right, hedger tails? You know tales never feels tills. Okay,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: I get it, heads or tails, it's tails, all right?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: Who you're arguing for?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: You know what, Luka, Doncic is the easier one. Let
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: me go Anthony Edwards right here? And do you want
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: me to go first?
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Okay? Why Anthony Edwards?
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: It would be it would be better.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: For him to win a ring. So first off, he'd
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: have to go through the Los Angeles Lakers, the Rockets
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: for the Warriors, like you're saying, all this Western Conference teams,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: then the Clippers, Nuggets or Oklahoma Oklahoma City Thunder here
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: in a year where he improved his three point shooting
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: where he was a sole offensive scorer right here after
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: his Western Conference Finals run, he'd kind of be on
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: that arc of you know who, a guy that he
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: gets compared to a lot And I know he won
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: an MVP before, and he won a Defensive Player of
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: the Year before. We know who I'm talking about, the
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: guy from Chicago. But he'd really be on the level
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: or rising to that level of a Michael Jordan's status
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: and face of the league. I know he doesn't want
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: to be off the court. On the court, he'd have
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: to be the face of the league. And for him
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: to even go on this finals run right here, I
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: can't even say this about Luka Doncic. He could do
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: this or he doesn't have to do this and they
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: could still win. Anthony Edwards is going to have to
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: average over thirty points, maybe thirty five points a game
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: in every single series and most likely guard the best
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: teams player at least for a quarter or two to
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: even move on in these series, and talk about clutch offense,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: he'd have to kick another gear. So he'd have to
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: outplay Luka Doncic, Lebron James. Then he'd have to outplay
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, than Shay and then have to
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: outplay the Cavaliers stacked almost seventy win paced team or
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown and those guys who were the
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: defending champs last year. So Anthony Edwards, he would be
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the face of the league, and he'd be creating close
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: to that image whether he yeah, whether he wants it
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: or not. And then he'd be creeping closer to the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: image of Number twenty three from Chicago. So that's my case.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: I think to Luka Doncics, it would be the best
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: start to her career in almost NBA history. If Luka
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: Donchins were able to win a ring this year, I
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: think he would undoubtedly be in that conversation as the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: best player in the world between him or Nikola Jokic,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: because he does a lot of things that Nikola Jokich
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: can do at the one position, especially rebounding. I think
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: people underrat Luka Downs's rebounding a lot, and he's a
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: good defender.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: He's an okay defender.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: He's not the best. He takes a lot of time off,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: but six straight all NBA's injuries. Learned it this year,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: leading the Mavericks to a to a championship appearance last year.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: First season in LA puts them over the top, wins
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: the ring with the showtime Lakers, undoubtedly becomes the face
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: of the NBA in Los Angeles. Lebron probably retires or
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: plays one more season, Luca is the leader of the Lakers,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: leader of the most popular franchise in the entire NBA,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: if not all of sports.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: It was to do so much for his career.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: I think my argument of being the best young player
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: and Lakers history isn't even argued anymore. It'd be undoubtedly
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Luka Doncic because at this point in their careers, I
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: know who was better and then and Luka Doncic would
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: have to be would be considered, would be looked at
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: already by this time in his career a top fifteen
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: player in NBA history.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, so again we chose arguments we could have. I'm
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: pretty sure we could have both argued either or. But
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let these people in the comments aside or whoever,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: whoever listened to this, let us know personally, whether you
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: know this or not, who had the better case. So
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: I think, just listen to the Luca case. I feel
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: like it's.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: Already so much more statistically than Anthony Edwards. You know so,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: and he Anthony Edwards isn't getting argued as the best
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: player in the world per se. You know, most popular
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: player is a different story. But best player in the world,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: it's for the majority of the time, it was Luca
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: and Jokic.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: But can I tell you this, He's on a Luca
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: He's on a Luca arc because look.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: What Luca did.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: He made it to the Western Conference Finals. Then he lost.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Then he lost right to the Golden State Warriors, a
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: more experienced team. Then Anthony Edwards made it to the
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Western Conference finals and what was it his third year,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: third or four with Luca made it in his fourth year,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: third or fourth year. So they're kind of ascending on
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: the same level. He's he's about to start reaching that.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: I think next year he's going to reach that first
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: team All NBA even at so he might even be
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: first team All NBA. You argued him for first team
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: All NBA this year, so mm hmm, so he might.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: I think he's getting there on that Luca level. He
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: just hasn't played as long, so he can't be he
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: can't be argued as well as Luca. I'll say that.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: There were Luka already let the league in scoring at
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: this point.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is true. That that is very true.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: But all right, what's the next series.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: Grizzlies versus thunder jam.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: MONA I'm kidding, okay, okay, well, okay, it.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: Puts Jamran back into a conversation. I think it puts
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: back into a top ten player, no face the league.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: He's done a lot.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: That's kind of moved him away from that, but that
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: it puts him back into a conversation of being respected again,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: of being back into like the fold of where we're
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: considering Jalen Brunton and and Tyres alb. I think he
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: gets back into that conversation. I think he gets back
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: into that ten range for best players in the NBA
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: with the Ring and as far as player and eight run, yeah,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: I think no. But if Sga wins the Ring, best
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: player in the world, Oh.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he he have to be for sure. And
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: can you say greater season, the greatest guard season in history?
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: You can already it's already up the Jordan.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: You could m v p let the scoring, the number
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: one team, sixty five plus wins, NBA Championship, OBA, He's
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: going to be the finals MVP. That would be up
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: there with the Jokic season when he won finals MVP.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: And I think it's up there. It might be up
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: there with the not as high. But the ninety seven
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Bulls season were seventy two wins. They had sixty seven
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: wins this year, led the league in scoring, best offensive
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: player in the league. Shay's doing exactly that to a
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: lesser extent, but better points, better efficiency, younger, younger, and
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: a younger team around him and making it to the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: finals and potentially dominating the better conference to Eastern Conference
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: was the better conference in the nineties. Western Conference is
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: by far the better conference. So you could say it's
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Jordan esque. I'm not trying to like compare everybody to
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, but like seasons wise, as far as what he's.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: You're gonna make your dad and use your arguments against
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: you because you keep bringing up Jordan into this conversation.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Like, Okay, Jordan, he's one of the best, but he's
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: not the best. Playing and simple playing and simple there's
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: nothing like how they always tell me there's nothing wrong
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: with being number two. There's nothing wrong with Michael Jordan
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: being number two.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, SGA would definitely be considered best player
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: in the world after this.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: How would you How would you feel about chet Holme?
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Grid would that I don't think that does anything for chet.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: I think he does anything because he's not the star player,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: like he's not and he missed it. Just doesn't do
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: much yet, like if he were the leading scorer or
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: like this top defensive Player of the Year candidate, which
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: he is gonna be but injuries derail him. But if
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: he were to like win Defensive Player of the Year
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: this year and win a ring, like it would do
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like, actually, there's there's two guys that we
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: completely missed out on which I know you're gonna bring
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: this guy up because we already talked about.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: Jaron Jackson Jr.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: No. No, no, no, no, Mark Dagnall and JJ Reddick.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: If they happen to.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: Win, some of the youngest in year one NBA Championship
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: would be insane.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: After if he.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: Would never I don't think he would leave LA for
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: a long time. He would never know.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: Mark Dagnall would be like the best star years old.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: It would be one of the best starts to a
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: coaching career in NBA history. Like he would immediately win
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: Coach the Year two years in and then and he
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: would win in the NBA Championship while leading your team
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: to the number one seed sixty five plus wins. I
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: think it'll put him into best coach in the best
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: coach in the league conversation, which he already is. But
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: like it would him and Joe Mosula would be the
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: front runners for that.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I just completely forgot about coaches here. But
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: all right, there's a lot of debate we can have
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: with this one. Nuggets and Clippers. Oh okay, do you
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: want to do the same thing we did with An
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: and Luca.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: No, let's just let's just talk about the players. I mean,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: nikoa Jokic top ten all time.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: I think, okay, he's top ten already.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: Phillips name players. I mean, I think me and you
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: have pretty much the same top players. So I think
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go Lebron, j Jordans, Kareem Mariem Duncan, Yeah,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: Steph Magic, There's Kobe Shaq Kobe. Then after that, then
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: where the conversation gets interesting, maybe there's team there's Bill Russell.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Man that that's where that you know what, Let me
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: pull up a top ten.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: Even two m VPS two championship, Defensive Player of the Years,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: three champs, three m v PS two championships, he'd be
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: in that nine to ten range quite easily.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: I would think he might be at nine if he wins,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: mm hmm, I think he'd be at nine.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: He'd be above I think he's already above Kevin Durant
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: all time. At this point, I.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Think for sure he's above Kevin Durant. You know, Larry Bird.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: I would take over Larry Bird.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: But Larry right now, Yeah, I mean, I mean I
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: would too. But that's a whole other conversation that people
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: are gonna start arguing. But I think it definitely give
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: him that nine to ten argument, no, bar none. I
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: think he's in the top ten. Like what he's able
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: to do average a triple double season, three MVPs, two
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: finals championships, I think I think it puts him up there.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: But also for these same arguments.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: And then the argument, yeah, argue that, yeah, but then.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard, Kawhi Leonard would also be in the same
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: type of argument. I think he would work his way.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: I know the MVPs are lacking, not going to have
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: an MVP. I think it's gonna be hard for him
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: at this point in his career to secure an MVP,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: but top fifteen player all time bar none. Three championship
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: more than likely, three finals MVPs. Two Defensive Player of
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: the Year awards right, two Defensive Player of the Yards
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: are just one, I think just one. Just one Defensive
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: Player of the Year award. Three different teams, three different championships,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: three finals, MVPs, consistently best two way player in the
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: entire NBA when he's on the court. I think that
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: would put him into the top. I think there's a
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: lot of players. Kevin Garnett. I'm taking him over in
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett all the time. I'm taking him over. That's
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: that One's a hard one.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like, right there, that's a close conversation right there.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: H Larry Bird, No, no, not over, Larry Kawhi would
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: be explained as the biggest like what the hell you
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: needed to watch him whenever he played.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: But he would, he would because.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: If you look at the stats, you could see sixty games,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: sixty games, twelve games and then I'm just listening off.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Then two he played in two playoff games the past
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: two years, three now after today. So so he would
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: be the biggest predicament as far as you'd have to
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: actually like watch him live whenever he played to see
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: how dominant he really was. All right now, James Harden.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: If James Harden, as a number two option, finds a way,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: finds a way to to win a championship here.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: Well he might be the number one option at this rate,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: at this rate, at the.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: R Yeah, at this rate, yeah, he would be He
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: obviously would have passed Kobe or Jordan, but he'd definitely
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: be over Dayne Wade in my.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: Opinion as the thirty as the third best shooting guard
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: of all two guard of all time. I would have
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: to argue that up there, I don't.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: I think Jordan and Kobe they're the they're their own
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: Jordan's his own tier, then Kobe's his own tier. Underneath
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: that the underneath there you get into a conversation of
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: certain type of players. There's Dayne Wade and James Harden
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: right now. But I think even though James Harden doesn't
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: have as many won't have as many rings. But as
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: a pure playmaker, pure basketball player, Dwayne Wade is not
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: on the same level as the James Harden.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: James Harden has left the league.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: In scoring, he has an MVP, had average, almost average,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: a triple doubles. Let hass he would have a championship
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: later in his career with Kawhi Leonard still keeping the
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: team in the fold to get into the playoffs. I
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: understand at that time, at that time, when Dwayne Wade
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: has won his Championship. It's been with Lebron James, it's
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: been with Chris Bosh, it's been with Shaquille O'Neil. I
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: know Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard and is being argued
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: up there with higher than Chris Bosh all time. Not
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: shocking Lebron, but he would still definitely not the way
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: that he was injured for a majority of their time together.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: James Harden would definitely be looked at a lot differently.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And then the last one is
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: obviously Russell Westbrook. It wouldn't be more. I don't feel
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: like it was a starter.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: Russ Westbrook was still a starter, but I think it
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: would just cap off a Hall of Fame career.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, I think that's what it'd be.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: But I think that's pretty much all of them right there.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're missing anything else from that from
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: that series. Yeah, I think this last series right here
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: the Warriors, and I think it's just more the Warriors
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: So we didn't talk to Heap versus Calves.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, we didn't talk he versus Cavs. So those are
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: the two.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a I.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: Is.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: I know this the Cavaliers.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: It would do a lot for them as a whole,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: but as individuals, I don't really see it moving a
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: player up. I think the only one like you talked
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: about before we even talked about this podcast was Donovan Mitchell.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: It would we move them into that top ten range
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: solidified as that tenth spot because he has argued in
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: and out of that ring, in and out of that spot,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: because he's one of the best pier scores in the
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: entire NBA. But having that ring would definitely elevate him
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: to a higher status. For me, I think the person
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: that it does the most for is Eric sposure. If
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: Eric Sposer would have in a ring with this Cleveland,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: with this Cleveland with Miami Heat.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: Team another great Miami run with tenth tenth.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Seed, he'd be the first team from the ten seed
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: to get into the plane plus also win with an
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: eight seed, take them to a championship and win. It
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: would be his second team. I believe from the a
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: se that he's taken.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: He took me one of the championship two years a time.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: He would win.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: I think dude Hall of Fame career easily. I would
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: argue him a top five coach in the history of basketball.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, there would be no arguments against that.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: But all right, let me go on the other side
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: right here, Steve Kerr. If he happens to win after
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: struggling from January, I'm talking about the Rockets and Warriors
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: right here from January and turning this team around when
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: they get Jimmy Butler, he's already a top five coach. Yeah,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: five rings, and then he has what how many as
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: a player? He has three? No, and then one with
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: San Antonio. That's nine rings. He'd be up there almost
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: Phil Jackson ring total wise, So I think he'd he
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: might be the greatest coach behind Phil Jackson. I know
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: there's Greg Papovitch there. I know there's Greg Papovitch there,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: But you could argue them on the same level right there,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: you could argue them on the same level. That's five rings,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: Greg Papovich won No six rings, No five rings, five rings.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be on the same level as Greg. So yeah,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: maybe third.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: I know it hit the hard strings there.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: I know it hit the hard strings there.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: Well, Eric Spolster, I think for me would be third.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: All the time. If you were to want to ring
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: over over Steve Kerr, I think the difficulty okay.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, yea, that is fair. That is fair.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: That is fair.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: I think coaching wise, I understand players, but difficult, hold on,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: hold on, no, you're if Og made that, that would
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: have been a cool highlight. Cat was falling down, just
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: threw it backwards and Ogs shot it and missed. But
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: no difficulty wise, I think as a coach what you
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: can do in the in the hardest situations and kind
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: of bring your team out of it. I think Eric
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: Spulture will get kind of almost a nod over Steve Kerr. Okay,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: just off that one ring alone.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: That does make sense, That does make sense.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: But all right, hey, we forgot a person, Rick Carlisle.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: What would what would this do for Rick Carlile? Here
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: will win another ring and never having like I know
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: on the other side, but the squad around him. But
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: then also with this Indiana Pacers, no real like superstar
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: on his team and taking this team to win a
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: championship and consistently winning basketball. He's not a loser in
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: basketball like, He's consistently one of the most winning his
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: coaches in the history of basketball.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: I think he's on that level of like a Doc Rivers,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: that kind of level.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: He'd be higher.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: He'd know, like I'm saying, like if they win, he'd
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: be like above them officially because I think he's on
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: like he'd.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: Be on that like oh say that there's Phil Jackson,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: Greg Popovich right now, then there's Steve Kerr, Eric Spolstra.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he'd be like that third fourth tier move
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: into this tier or too early.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's too early.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: I think it's you think he'd be he'd be in
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: that Rick Carlisle area still.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think both Tyler and Rick Carlisle will go
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: into that third tier, third tier level like a good
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: coach majority of their career.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: But they Chuck Daily, Lady Brown, Larry Brown, Yeah, Larry Brown.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: Who you want the ring with Detroit? To rings with Detroit?
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: Chuck Day up there and Troit Piston. Also, I'm forgetting
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: I know there's Red r Back, No, that's the owner
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: r Red the owner who who's the coach of the
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: Boston Celtics in the eighties.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Who is it?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: Pat Riley? We're forgetting about.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Pat right, Yeah, we forgot about pat Riley. Yeah, pat
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: Riley was definitely one that we forgot right there as
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: far as top it was Jones, former Boston Celtics legend.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: Casey Jones, and then we forget about pat Riley. Pat
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: Riley's up there. But pat Riley, if they win another
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: ring as a GM, who would be permically insane?
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: That that would be insane? He'd be I don't know
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: if he'd be Jerry West level would he be Jerry West?
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: He would be bro twenty seven years of consistently with
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. He that's what he was able to
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: do with the Showtime Lakers.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Jerry West managed or was a gem of the show
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: Time and then then he went to where'd he go to?
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: Pat Riley was also the coach of that team too, So.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: It's like he hired pat Riley. So what does that
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: got to say?
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, what does that got to say? Right there?
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: But all right, I think these last two really right
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: here is Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler Curry, Steph Curry, he's already found enter, He's
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: already five jim Steph Curry would move above Tim Duncan
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: all time. He'd read some unevil comprehendations. He would be
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: contending with the likes of Michael Jordan, Lebron James, and
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: Kareem Abdul Jabbar as the greatest player of all time.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: He would he would I disagreeing with you, I and
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: anyone that wants to think differently, greatest shooter to ever
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: lift think about that. One aspect of basketball is to
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: put the ball in the hoop, and he's the best
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: to ever shoot the ball like anywhere on the court.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: I don't care where you pick.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: The best player to shoot the basketball and the history
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: of histories is Stephen Curry. He would have five rings, unanimous,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: multiple All First Team, All NBA's dude, all most wins
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: all time in the season. Dude, I think it changed
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: the game of basketball. He changed the game of basketball.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: He did not just come in. Magic Johnson, Larry Berg
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: made basketball popular, Michael Jordan took it to a whole
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: other level, but he did not change the game of basketball.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: Lebron James played like Magic Johnson, but did Stry made
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: everybody play.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: Like Stephen Curry. But you know there's a whole different story.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: Like Stephen Curry made big man turn into shooters. He
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: made Karl Anthony Towns.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: I think those that you have guys like Wimby and
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: Chat Holmgren who are seven to three, who are.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: Shooting facing at all time level. He made defense harder
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: because you had to worry about as soon as you
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: crossed the half court line. Stephan Curry, Yeah, Stephen Curry
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: would be, argue me, the greatest basketball player in the history.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: Honestly, if if Steph Curry wins US and he'd have
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: to go on a historic run, you could you could
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: argue to me, all right, well, he's better than Lebron
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: because he beat him. You could you could argue that, honestly,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: you could argue that toy.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: You know what.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: You know what, No, I'm going back on that take right.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: There, one, Tim Duncan one to one.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going back on that take right there. I'm going
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: back on that take right there.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: You know what, you would be the second best player
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: in the history of basketball. No, because he wouldn't be
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: able to pass Lebron Low. I think he'd a fourth range.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: I think the other guys could argue, yeah, but Kareem
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: is still the.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: Third all time scorer, second all time scorer in the
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: history of basketball.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: But you could say Steph Curry agable, Him and Kareem
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: are debatable, but Jordan Lebron are still the ghost. Yeah, okay, yeah,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: I'd agree with that. Jimmy Butler, this last one right
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: here before we got.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: Here, Jimmy Butler hall of Famer.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Do you don't think he's a Hall of Famer as
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: it is? Two great runs to the finals?
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: Do you think him and Carmelo's careers are to get
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: art are on part with each other?
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, it would literally be the opposite of
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: Carmelo where regular season doesn't matter, then playoffs he takes
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: it to another level.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: Jimmy is not the best regular season player. Carmelo Anthony
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: was a great That's what.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: It's literally like, flipped opposite like Carmelo and Jimmy Butler.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: They pretty much like switch like Jimmy Butler, Damn near
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: becomes Carmelo Anthony, you know what I mean, and Carmelo
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: becomes like a Jimmy Butler type of player in the playoffs.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: If so, Jimmy Butler would be a Hall of Famer,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: he would, he would do a lot for his all
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: time rank. I don't think he will come into any
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: conversations as best players in the NBA.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: As the best, Like he'd be the trademark of a
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: playoff riser. He he already is, but he would be the.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to say that, what what?
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: What were you gonna say? I need I need to
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: hear it now.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 3: Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill. He'd be in that conversation, honestly,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: Paul George, Paul George. Honestly, Paul George.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: You're not wrong. I kind of agree with that because
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: Tam mac never.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: Got Paul is better than Jimmy Butler. But with the ring,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: it'd be be a little bit.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: Would boost him. It would boost him over those guys.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: Chris Bosh, he'd be in that Chris Bosh conbo. Where
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: would he be at as the two guards all time?
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: It'd be like, no, I don't know if I put.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 3: That, Yeah, no, but in that range, right, he would
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: be in that range. He would be in that range.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: I say, playoffs guys have rings.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: None of those guys have rings, by the way, not
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: one of them. Mc grady, Vince Carter, Paul George, Grant Hill,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: not a single one has a ring. Yeah, that he
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be Jeroblee, but he would be up there.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: Well, you're not wrong, You're not wrong, But all right,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: all right, Josh, before we get out of here, we're
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: gonna just quickly.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: Pull a conversation. Dude.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: This came to my mind, real quick question off topic.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: Whose career would you rather have? Whose career would you
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: rather have? Okay, so I'm gonna give you Tracy McGrady
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: and Vince Carter on this side, and I'm gonna give
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: you Jamal Crawford and Lou Williams on this side.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford, Lou Williams versus Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter. Hmm,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford and Louis So be one of the best
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: six mans in the league, a prolific scorer, or be
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: the best scorer on.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: Your team and never win a ring.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: You know what, Give me T Mac, give me T
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: max career.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 3: You still would be on that. You still be on that,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: Vince Carter, T Mac Area.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: I'd be on that, Vince Carter, T Mac if you
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: would have said, like somebody, I feel like because Jamal
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: Crawford and Lou Williams they never won.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, I.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 5: Know where you're going, monitor, I know where you're going career.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 5: Or Tracy McGrady and Vincy.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Give me Manu, gimme Monu's career.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: Okay. See see that's what I'm waiting for. That you
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: change that conversation. You changed that conversation a little bit.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: See, that's what I was waiting for. I'm like, none
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: of those guys have won, so I'm like.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: All right, oh dude, this is the no. Okay, so
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: do Jamal Crawford Jamal Crawford, okay. Or Sean Livingston.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, now we're talking.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 3: Now, we're talking.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: Now, we're talking. That MIDI game was insane from Sean Livingston.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: And he has a green he does he does have
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: a ring that twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. Oh okay.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: You know who goes through this converse station two and
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: we're talking rings. J R. Smith goes into this conversation.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 3: Give me j R. Smith, Give me Smith, g j R.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: Smith a character and I still win ring. Nah, this
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: this is settled with right now.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: People underrate j R. Smith. Though, people under rate j R. Smith.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: J R.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: Smith, He's I think we like he'd be like a
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: modern He's like a modern day Malik Beasley, like somebody
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: who like shoots a volume worth of threes.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, aint yamming it like that? Yeah?
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: No, No, for real, I don't think there's no con
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: for j R.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: Smith, Jared Trump the person. Yeah, you're just.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: Man. We're gonna have to talk about that whenever the playoffs.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: I'll come up with a couple of names. I'll come
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: up with a couple. No, but all right, let's pick
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: this right here. So Thunder versus Grizzlies. Right here, we're
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: going with the Thunder. Wait, how do I pick this?
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: Do I drag four games?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: Then Nuggets Clippers? You know what, Just for the sake
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: of it, I'll go for the Clippers, all right? Six
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: or seven?
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 3: Seven? Seven? All right? Lakers?
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: We both had them in five? Or I had him
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: in five?
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: We had them in five. We had warriors and six
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: warriors and six calves. We had calves in five pacers bucks.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: This is where we disagree.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: Rock paper scissors, Yeah on, shoot rock rock pay paper scissors,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 3: shoot ship pay papers shoot. Oh hold on, you're on
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: my waveing rock. How about stip a coin? I'll give you.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: Didn't you picked paper tails? Tails? All right, do the
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 3: do the Bucks, Bucks and seven Nicks and six Celtics.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: You know what, in four, we'll do four thunder Clippers.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: Let's talk now, let's talk now, let's talk now. I'm
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: going with oka. See without seeing anything else, I'm going okay,
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: see in seven games, i'll.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 3: Give you okay, see then okay, I'm going upset.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: You'd go upset?
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but well, for the sake of us winning some money,
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: we'll go with the thunder Lakers warns right here, Lakers, Lakers.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: And six Okay, Calves, Bucks, Cleveland, right, Calves and captain
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: five ooh, in five, okay, I'm going.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: With oh, no, it's whatever, we're there. Other's six. Let's
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 3: do six.
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: Let's do six, six Celtics and five.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: Celtics and four. I'm knowing five. I'll give them, no, yeah, four.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: I think they destroyed the Nick I'm not gonna lie
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: to you.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 3: The Nicks played terrible against the Celtics. That's one of
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 3: their worst team that they play against.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: That is very true. All right, Celtics, Calves, I say,
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: I would say Celtics in six. Yeah, I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: Celtics and six right here? All right, Lakers, thunder right here,
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  Speaker 1: you say seven, I'm I'm saying six. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: what a surprise. We have the same matchup from exactly
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  Speaker 1: last year. Hopefully we don't jig ourself right here, Lakers
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  Speaker 1: and what Lakers and what we know? We're going to
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  Speaker 1: la here.
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  Speaker 3: We know we're good in seven games.
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  Speaker 1: Lakers, in seven games? All right? How many total points
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  Speaker 1: will be scored in Game one of the finals.
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  Speaker 3: Matt twenty About six seven, six seven? All right, so
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  Speaker 3: let's go team. They scored hundred. That's two hundred undred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty two points. Not just kidding, No, one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and one hundred, one hundred thirty two points.
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  Speaker 1: Total.
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  Speaker 3: That's like one seventeen one fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: It would be two hundred. It would be like two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like this quick for the sixties, like an old seventies,
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  Speaker 1: old nineties basketball.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do what?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So a ten apiece would be one ten.
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  Speaker 3: Apiece, thirty two it'd be too thirty two.
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  Speaker 1: To thirty two. Okay, all right, it's submitted.
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  Speaker 3: I'll create the count.
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  Speaker 1: I'll create the count in a second. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty much setting stone. If we had to pick
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  Speaker 1: a winner right now, we would pick the LA Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: But Josh, any last words before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: Mhm, No, I really don't have any words right now.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 3: It was a lot to take in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I just barely remember this right now. I
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: didn't even do the introduction, so let me go in
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