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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease Alex Murdog. Yes, it's not
- 0:15Speaker 1: over yet. Have you ever seen an action or a
- 0:19Speaker 1: horror movie where the killer or the monster dies and
- 0:25Speaker 1: everything calms down, all of a sudden they rise up
- 0:28Speaker 1: again and go after the protagonist. That's what's happening here.
- 0:33Speaker 1: He's back again, and right now he is in court.
- 0:38Speaker 1: That's right, Alex Murdog in court again. I mean, I
- 0:43Speaker 1: see grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
- 0:46Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Series XM one eleven.
- 0:49Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to our friends at WISTV.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Back in the courtroom today for the first time since
- 0:56Speaker 2: being convicted of killing his wife and son earlier this year,
- 0:59Speaker 2: Murdoch is making his initial appearance in federal court after
- 1:03Speaker 2: a grand jury indicted him on nearly two dozen financial
- 1:06Speaker 2: related charges. They range from fraud to money laundering. The
- 1:10Speaker 2: indictment alleges during Murdoch's time as an attorney, he came
- 1:13Speaker 2: up with three schemes to take money and property from
- 1:16Speaker 2: his clients. Murdoch is currently serving two life sentences for
- 1:20Speaker 2: the murders of his wife and son.
- 1:21Speaker 3: If convicted on.
- 1:22Speaker 2: These federal charges, he could add four hundred and eighty
- 1:25Speaker 2: more years onto his current sentence and be fined up
- 1:29Speaker 2: to thirteen million.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Dollars money, money, money, and more. From our friends at
- 1:35Speaker 1: wh NS Fox.
- 1:38Speaker 4: This barred attorney Alec Murdoch set to make an appearance
- 1:40Speaker 4: here in Charleston on twenty two federal charges. Court documents
- 1:45Speaker 4: state the hearing is set to take place in at
- 1:46Speaker 4: the US Courthouse. Last week, Murdoch was indicted by a
- 1:50Speaker 4: federal grand jury on account of conspiracy to commit wire
- 1:53Speaker 4: and bank fraud, one count of bank fraud, a total
- 1:55Speaker 4: of five counts of wire fraud, one count of conspiracy
- 1:58Speaker 4: to commit wire fraud, and fourteen counts of money laundering.
- 2:02Speaker 4: He's currently in prison for the twenty twenty one shooting
- 2:05Speaker 4: deaths of his wife Maggie and son Paul.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Joining me an incredible panel, but first to Jennifer Wood,
- 2:12Speaker 1: director of research at fitznews dot com. You can find
- 2:16Speaker 1: Jennifer on Twitter at Indie Jen Underscore, Jennifer, thank you
- 2:21Speaker 1: for being with us. He's back. Why won't he go away?
- 2:24Speaker 1: Why is he in court?
- 2:26Speaker 5: It's like the guest that keeps on giving. I guess,
- 2:28Speaker 5: I mean it, I don't and I don't think they're
- 2:31Speaker 5: done with them. I mean, there's just it's just a
- 2:35Speaker 5: maze of criminality that they're reading through.
- 2:38Speaker 1: You know, the thing is so many crimes. Eric Bland
- 2:43Speaker 1: joining me, attorney for Sandy Smith and Gloria Sadderfield's son,
- 2:47Speaker 1: founder partner of Bland Richter Attorneys at Law, also co
- 2:52Speaker 1: host of Cup of Justice podcast, which is awesome. Eric Bland,
- 2:55Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Shouldn't you be in
- 2:58Speaker 1: court fighting for Alex Murdock's victims right now? I feel
- 3:02Speaker 1: very honored here with us. What's happening? Why is he
- 3:05Speaker 1: back in court?
- 3:06Speaker 6: Because one my partner's going to be there in Charleston,
- 3:10Speaker 6: and so I have another engagement this afternoon, so I
- 3:14Speaker 6: couldn't make it, but my partner's going to argue in
- 3:17Speaker 6: connection with his bond. This is the first foray of
- 3:21Speaker 6: the federal authorities taking a grab at Alex, and I
- 3:27Speaker 6: agree that this is not the end. You know, there's
- 3:30Speaker 6: income tax issues, there's other victim issues, but this is
- 3:35Speaker 6: the first foray that the federal government has taken a
- 3:37Speaker 6: whack at Alex. I think it's probably they were nervous
- 3:41Speaker 6: about some maybe some Statute of limitations issues, but this
- 3:45Speaker 6: concerns the Saturfield case, the Pliler sisters, and the Picknies,
- 3:49Speaker 6: and it was very telling a lot that happened last week.
- 3:54Speaker 6: One is Corey Fleming played his co conspirator, But two
- 3:59Speaker 6: de car made the statement that Alex is cooperating with
- 4:03Speaker 6: both federal and state authorities and he does not believe
- 4:07Speaker 6: there will be a trial on these charges, which tells
- 4:10Speaker 6: me when Dick used the word cooperating, Alex is talking
- 4:15Speaker 6: and that's all we ever wanted from Alex is to
- 4:18Speaker 6: start talking.
- 4:18Speaker 7: Well well, well, wait, wait, wait, you know, Eric Bland,
- 4:23Speaker 7: for such a successful lawyer as you are, I think
- 4:26Speaker 7: you need to be more specific talking.
- 4:29Speaker 1: For most people, that means they're actually telling you something.
- 4:32Speaker 1: For Alex and Murdoch, it means nothing. Didn't you sit
- 4:36Speaker 1: in the courtroom. Wasn't that you right behind me in
- 4:38Speaker 1: the courtroom? And this guy his mouth was moving, but
- 4:41Speaker 1: all that came out was trash, garbage. It was like
- 4:44Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It was all lies, lies. I should
- 4:47Speaker 1: have taken it, straighten it up. So him talking and
- 4:49Speaker 1: it is nothing to me.
- 4:50Speaker 6: It does mean something to the authorities if he provides
- 4:54Speaker 6: documentation or proof. Obviously his words are hollow and everybody
- 5:00Speaker 6: knows that. And it was telling because when Russe Laffitte,
- 5:04Speaker 6: through his lawyers, said that he was cooperating, the state
- 5:07Speaker 6: immediately came out and said, no, we're not getting good
- 5:10Speaker 6: cooperation from him. When Dick made that statement, neither the
- 5:14Speaker 6: federal government nor the state government contradicted that. So for
- 5:18Speaker 6: this to work, not only does Alex have to have
- 5:21Speaker 6: to talk, but he has to provide the proof or
- 5:24Speaker 6: tell the agencies where to find that proof. And I
- 5:29Speaker 6: suspect that Alex has information on other lawyers, on judges,
- 5:34Speaker 6: and in particular his law firm, because what I have
- 5:37Speaker 6: heard is he is very not pleased with the fact
- 5:41Speaker 6: that Ronnie Crosby and Mark Ball took a hatchet to
- 5:45Speaker 6: his head in that murder truck.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Okay, you're really talking inside baseball. You're not telling me
- 5:52Speaker 1: who any of these characters are in a nutshell. Briefly,
- 5:58Speaker 1: you're saying, Murdoch is angry because people testified against him,
- 6:03Speaker 1: and there are a trial.
- 6:04Speaker 6: What people Ronnie Crosby and Marked all his law partners,
- 6:08Speaker 6: Ye hard him much harder than he anticipated. And you
- 6:13Speaker 6: saw the cross examination of Dick carpoot Leon against Ronnie Crosby,
- 6:17Speaker 6: and it got very personal, and Ronnie Crosby made a
- 6:21Speaker 6: personal and fifth made it personal. And from what I
- 6:23Speaker 6: have been told, Alex is not pleased. And so the
- 6:27Speaker 6: only way Alex can get any kind of accommodation, and
- 6:31Speaker 6: it's not going to be an accommodation where he gets
- 6:33Speaker 6: out of jail. It'll be some kind of accommodation where
- 6:37Speaker 6: he's serving his time, because he's going to serve it
- 6:40Speaker 6: in a state prison. He's not going to be like
- 6:42Speaker 6: Cory Fleming and be able to serve it in a
- 6:44Speaker 6: federal prison. He has to give good cooperation. And the
- 6:48Speaker 6: fact that we didn't hear from Emily Linehouse or Creighton
- 6:52Speaker 6: Waters to contradict Dick is a very telling revelation.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to break that down. I think what
- 6:59Speaker 1: he's saying is that Alexan Murdog claims to be cooperating
- 7:04Speaker 1: in financial crimes, and that is why he's in court
- 7:08Speaker 1: right now. It's happening now. This is a federal indictment
- 7:12Speaker 1: for money fraud. Why do we care about that when
- 7:16Speaker 1: I've got two dead people lying in the dog kennels
- 7:20Speaker 1: at Mozelle his hunting lodge. That's just the tip of
- 7:24Speaker 1: the iceberg. Also, we learn that Alexi Murdog is going
- 7:30Speaker 1: to be forced to answer questions under oath regarding the
- 7:33Speaker 1: death of a third person, Tingrel Mallory Beach. But to
- 7:38Speaker 1: circle back with high profile lawyer Eric Bland, I heard
- 7:43Speaker 1: you say that your partners are going to be in
- 7:45Speaker 1: court today to argue. Did you say bond?
- 7:49Speaker 6: Yeah, well he's got it. He's going to be arranged.
- 7:51Speaker 6: Then obviously he won't get bond because he's already convicted,
- 7:54Speaker 6: but they have to set some kind.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Of bond, right, Okay, And I've said got it, got it.
- 8:00Speaker 1: He's in jail on a life sentence plus more. He's
- 8:03Speaker 1: not going anywhere, I hope.
- 8:06Speaker 8: Now.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Just recently we learned about a guy up in his seventies,
- 8:11Speaker 1: a millionaire who has a mansion in Algarve across the ocean,
- 8:19Speaker 1: and he actually had schemed a hatched a plot with
- 8:23Speaker 1: the cooperation of others to escape jail. Let's talk one
- 8:28Speaker 1: moment about jail house safety. This guy, Alex Murdog, will
- 8:34Speaker 1: stop at nothing to get out of jail. Jennifer Wood
- 8:40Speaker 1: joining me, director research Fitznews dot Com. Jennifer, where is
- 8:45Speaker 1: the courthouse at which he will be today. It's a
- 8:48Speaker 1: federal courthouse.
- 8:49Speaker 5: Correct, It's a federal courthouse in Charleston, So they'll be
- 8:53Speaker 5: transporting him from McCormack Cructional Institution, which is the state penitentiary.
- 8:58Speaker 5: He's been a signed than.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Please join us now on Fox Nation for a brand
- 9:09Speaker 1: new investigation, Parallels of Evil the Bundy and Idaho Killings.
- 9:15Speaker 1: In this gripping special investigation, we bring together an incredible
- 9:20Speaker 1: panel of guests who analyze disturbing similarities of evil between
- 9:26Speaker 1: these horrible crimes. We speak with two female Ted Bundy survivors,
- 9:34Speaker 1: Karen Pryor and Cheryl Thomas, who described their life before
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- 10:31Speaker 1: with Nancy Grease and Chris mcdonnah joining me. A director
- 10:35Speaker 1: of the Cold Case Foundation dot org, former homicide detective
- 10:39Speaker 1: having investigated nearly three hundred homicides, host of YouTube channel
- 10:44Speaker 1: The Interview Room, Chris mcdona, I've had escapees. Now. A
- 10:50Speaker 1: perfect time to try to escape is when you're at
- 10:53Speaker 1: the courthouse. Think Ted Bundy, who jumped out the window
- 10:57Speaker 1: of the courthouse law library, or during transport and I'll
- 11:02Speaker 1: use Bundy again as a matter of fact, when Ted
- 11:08Speaker 1: Bundy was being transported to a court hearing, there is
- 11:12Speaker 1: some conjecture that he tried to escape but it didn't work,
- 11:19Speaker 1: but that was foiled. Long story short, Chris mcdonna, you've
- 11:24Speaker 1: got both of those factors weighing in for Alex Marna
- 11:28Speaker 1: going back and forth to the jail. Now we'll say
- 11:31Speaker 1: this the federal courthouse, and I was a federal law
- 11:35Speaker 1: clerk to a judge for two years. It has very
- 11:39Speaker 1: tight security. It's like a fortress.
- 11:42Speaker 9: Yeah, and so Nancy, the one thing to always keep
- 11:45Speaker 9: in mind is for folks is he's got nothing to
- 11:49Speaker 9: lose at this point, even though you know he's playing,
- 11:54Speaker 9: you know, I'm cooperating I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
- 11:57Speaker 9: The fact is, you know, he's convicted for a double homicide,
- 12:02Speaker 9: so that puts him in a new level of security risk.
- 12:06Speaker 9: And so the courthouse, in of its shelf, the transport
- 12:11Speaker 9: position of this is the most important. And then of
- 12:14Speaker 9: course when they escort, any escorts are going to have
- 12:17Speaker 9: to they're going to have to have him shackled on
- 12:19Speaker 9: both the ankles and the waist. And then when they
- 12:23Speaker 9: put him into the courthouse, they may even put a
- 12:28Speaker 9: and a shock belt on him just to lower that
- 12:33Speaker 9: risk in of itself. Yeah, so he is still a
- 12:36Speaker 9: high risk potential for escape, no doubt about it.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Well, and another thing, who do you think he's friends
- 12:41Speaker 1: with nuns and priests and virgins? No, other people just
- 12:46Speaker 1: like him on the outside that may owe him, that
- 12:50Speaker 1: may try to facilitate some full fated escape plan. I mean,
- 12:56Speaker 1: Eric Bland, I would not put it past him.
- 12:59Speaker 6: I will now you're wrong, You're wrong. Nancy's not going
- 13:02Speaker 6: to do it today because his best hope of ever
- 13:05Speaker 6: getting some kind of app is the reversal of the
- 13:08Speaker 6: murder conviction. If he tries to scape before that is heard,
- 13:13Speaker 6: he's dead meat. So if the murder conviction gets reversed.
- 13:17Speaker 6: Then there's the possibility on the financial crimes that he
- 13:20Speaker 6: provides tremendous cooperation in taking down a lot of people,
- 13:25Speaker 6: and maybe he gets a thirty year sentence and with
- 13:29Speaker 6: good time. Because it's not life without parole, it may
- 13:33Speaker 6: be reduced to let's say nineteen, that's twenty three years
- 13:36Speaker 6: or twenty one years. He's fifty three years old. He'll
- 13:40Speaker 6: get out when he's seventy two. That's the only gauntlet
- 13:44Speaker 6: that he could find himself possibly getting out of prison.
- 13:48Speaker 6: And if he tries to escape before that murder conviction
- 13:52Speaker 6: is heard on appeal, it's the kiss of death for him.
- 13:55Speaker 6: So I disagree with you.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Eric Bland. I didn't say I thought he would do
- 13:59Speaker 1: it because I don't think you will, but not for
- 14:02Speaker 1: the accurate reason you just pointed out. I think he's
- 14:05Speaker 1: just chicken. I mean, look who he killed, unarmed woman
- 14:10Speaker 1: and unarmed son.
- 14:12Speaker 6: But he is a narcissist, So don't put anything past
- 14:15Speaker 6: the narcissist. So you're right about that, to discuss it definitely,
- 14:19Speaker 6: because he's a narcissist.
- 14:20Speaker 10: Well, he's also a career criminal, yes he is, and
- 14:23Speaker 10: all of his friends are criminals. Anybody that's not a
- 14:26Speaker 10: criminal just like him, like his dope dealer cousin Eddie,
- 14:31Speaker 10: have left him or testified against him. Guys, Not only
- 14:35Speaker 10: is Alexa Mardauc in court today in federal court for
- 14:39Speaker 10: dozens of financial crimes.
- 14:42Speaker 1: The only reason I care about that money is I
- 14:44Speaker 1: wanted to go to the victims' families. It's the only
- 14:48Speaker 1: reason I care about it. But also he is set
- 14:51Speaker 1: to testify under oath. If you can believe anything this
- 14:55Speaker 1: guy would ever say in the case of Mallory Beach,
- 15:00Speaker 1: teen girl now dead. Do you remember that case? Take
- 15:04Speaker 1: a listen to our cut two three two.
- 15:06Speaker 3: We just crass in a boat.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Are you in the water?
- 15:10Speaker 6: Are you we're in the boat?
- 15:15Speaker 8: You have no one?
- 15:18Speaker 11: I'm taking o pay I'm.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Falling reference to a disabled I'm sorry.
- 15:22Speaker 6: A boat crash.
- 15:24Speaker 12: I heard.
- 15:27Speaker 3: The six people on board. They currently have one missing.
- 15:31Speaker 12: All right.
- 15:31Speaker 6: It's an Archer's Creek which is right there off of
- 15:34Speaker 6: Paras Island.
- 15:34Speaker 3: There's a bridge on Paras Island.
- 15:36Speaker 6: They're underneath it. Your crashed into the bridge and more?
- 15:38Speaker 1: Were you here? Connor Cook talking not a murdog because
- 15:43Speaker 1: the murdog was too drunk to talk. Take a listen
- 15:47Speaker 1: to sixteen, Oh what little of Richard Bridges? Please fire
- 15:54Speaker 1: an Hello, We're in a boat crash on Arthur's Creek.
- 16:00Speaker 6: Only we're in a boat, crowd.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Are you in the water?
- 16:05Speaker 5: Are you We're in the boat at the helm of
- 16:13Speaker 5: that boat.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Paul Murdog later gunned down by his father, which effectively
- 16:21Speaker 1: cut off one line of legal pursuit against Paul Murdoch
- 16:27Speaker 1: and the Murdog estate. It was settled quietly after the murders,
- 16:31Speaker 1: just as Alex Murdock had planned. But in that nine
- 16:35Speaker 1: one one call, you hear people screaming, You hear confusion,
- 16:39Speaker 1: they realized Mallory Beach is no longer on the boat.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Murdog too drunk to call. Connor Cook calling in the
- 16:48Speaker 1: nine to one one call. Jennifer Wood joining me from
- 16:52Speaker 1: fitznews dot Com. I was struck when I went out
- 16:57Speaker 1: on the water with water red to look at those
- 17:02Speaker 1: huge cement pilings that Paul Murdog sped right into, throwing
- 17:09Speaker 1: Mallory Beach off into the water. She remained in the
- 17:13Speaker 1: water for three days before her body was found, unrecognizable
- 17:18Speaker 1: and bloated. Could you describe what happened? In the crass,
- 17:22Speaker 1: Jennifer Wood.
- 17:23Speaker 5: I believe I read. I believe I read he was
- 17:26Speaker 5: at thirty miles an hour. And if you look at
- 17:30Speaker 5: that creek in that bridge, I mean, that is just
- 17:33Speaker 5: that's so fast for a boat in that creek going
- 17:37Speaker 5: through those pilings. There's not a lot of room. And
- 17:41Speaker 5: I mean he he hit hard. They were all injured
- 17:45Speaker 5: to some degree in Mallory Malory unfortunately drowned.
- 17:51Speaker 1: To Doctor Michelle Duprey joining us a forensic pathologist, medical
- 17:56Speaker 1: examiner and also the author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide.
- 18:02Speaker 1: You can find her at d Michelle dupremd dot com
- 18:06Speaker 1: and she shot to the national forefront during the Alexa
- 18:10Speaker 1: Murdog trial and has taken part in the proceedings regarding
- 18:15Speaker 1: the autopsy of teen boy Stephen Smith, also tangentially connected
- 18:21Speaker 1: to the Murdoch case. Doctor Dupree, thank you for being
- 18:25Speaker 1: with us. You and I went out to the water.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Describe what exactly happened to this teengirl, Mallory Beach.
- 18:35Speaker 11: Well, Nancy, we did go out and as you may recall,
- 18:38Speaker 11: this is it's really a narrow part of the river.
- 18:42Speaker 11: It's also very dangerous at night when there is no
- 18:46Speaker 11: lights around. There was no running lights on the boat.
- 18:49Speaker 11: There were six young adults in the boat. Paul, the driver,
- 18:53Speaker 11: was going at an incredibly high rate of speed, especially
- 18:56Speaker 11: for that area, and slammed into these create boat concrete
- 19:02Speaker 11: peer piling and it actually ejected at least three of
- 19:06Speaker 11: these people out of the boat, Mallory never to be
- 19:10Speaker 11: found recently. I mean, it was just horrific. It was
- 19:15Speaker 11: terribly stupid to be doing something like that. But as
- 19:19Speaker 11: we know, Paul was very intoxicated.
- 19:21Speaker 1: And we know that the other friends on the boat
- 19:24Speaker 1: were screaming and begging him to stop driving, to slow down,
- 19:29Speaker 1: and he actually slapped one of the other girls on
- 19:32Speaker 1: the boat that the girl was begging him to stop
- 19:36Speaker 1: or to slow down or let somebody else's drive. Joining
- 19:39Speaker 1: me phil otim boating accident reconstruction. I don't like the
- 19:46Speaker 1: accident boating crash because when you get drunk, and these
- 19:50Speaker 1: were underage, by the way, when you get this drunk
- 19:55Speaker 1: and you start boating at high speeds for a boat,
- 19:59Speaker 1: this is a very narrow waterway, and they were heading
- 20:02Speaker 1: toward a bridge and you would have to maneuver between
- 20:08Speaker 1: two giant cement support beams to get under the bridge.
- 20:15Speaker 1: He didn't do that, He sped right into these cement pilings.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Phil owner of H two TO Investigations, former law enforcement
- 20:26Speaker 1: and you can find him at H two O investigations
- 20:29Speaker 1: dot com. Phil, thank you for being with us. I
- 20:31Speaker 1: know you've studied the Mallori Beach boating crash, and right
- 20:37Speaker 1: now the court has decided Alex Murdog will be forced
- 20:42Speaker 1: to answer questions regarding that case. Hopefully the Beach family
- 20:47Speaker 1: will get ahold of some of that Murdog money before
- 20:50Speaker 1: it all goes out to debtors to whom he owes money. So,
- 20:56Speaker 1: Phil Odom, after you've analyzed the beach crash, what do
- 21:01Speaker 1: you think.
- 21:01Speaker 13: I think that Paul Murdog was extremely intoxicated. There was
- 21:06Speaker 13: a GPS unit that was on his vessel at the
- 21:09Speaker 13: time which indicated the last record of speed was twenty
- 21:14Speaker 13: nine miles per hour. Is Michelle stated there was no
- 21:19Speaker 13: lights on the bridge. I have not been out to
- 21:22Speaker 13: the scene to know how narrow the pilings are from
- 21:25Speaker 13: each other. However, from the pictures that I viewed, even
- 21:28Speaker 13: during daylight hours, thirty miles an hour to try to
- 21:31Speaker 13: go through those pilings is an unreasonable speed. So you
- 21:34Speaker 13: mix those two. You've just got a recipe for disaster.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Guys, we're talking about the horrible death of teen girl
- 21:43Speaker 1: Mallory Beach. Take a listen to our cut two, three four,
- 21:50Speaker 1: played by WJCL. Authorities, search teams, friends and family search
- 21:56Speaker 1: for an entire.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Week until.
- 22:04Speaker 11: It's your emergency.
- 22:05Speaker 1: We think we found her.
- 22:08Speaker 14: Beach's body was found on March third, twenty nineteen, in
- 22:11Speaker 14: a marsh near the Broad River boat landing.
- 22:13Speaker 1: I spoke with the boat rescue that were called out
- 22:16Speaker 1: the night of the crash, got up out of their
- 22:18Speaker 1: beds in the middle of the night to start looking
- 22:21Speaker 1: for Mallory's body, hopefully trying to find her still alive,
- 22:25Speaker 1: and they searched for days until March three, when her
- 22:30Speaker 1: body is found. Time Stories with Nancy Grace two doctor
- 22:54Speaker 1: Michelle dupre pathologist and author Dodgor Duprix. I recall that
- 23:01Speaker 1: Mallory Beach died of drowning, not from a blow to
- 23:05Speaker 1: the head. Does that make sense to you.
- 23:07Speaker 11: Yes, Nancy, it does. She was probably obtunded. She had
- 23:12Speaker 11: been drinking. She was thrown from the boat violently. She
- 23:16Speaker 11: is in the water. She is probably struggling. She is
- 23:19Speaker 11: taking water in so, yes, chances are that she did drown.
- 23:23Speaker 11: Even if she did hit her head, she would dive
- 23:27Speaker 11: most likely from the drowning from taking in the water
- 23:29Speaker 11: and not being able to get out.
- 23:30Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure how her body wasn't found. It
- 23:34Speaker 1: was not from lack of trying for that many days.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Chris McDonough, veteran homicide detective. Her body was taken by
- 23:45Speaker 1: the currents in that channel and moved, moved fairly quickly.
- 23:51Speaker 1: And there are also there's a lot of growth, marshes
- 23:57Speaker 1: and tall grasses on the side of the water and
- 24:02Speaker 1: a perfect place for a body to lodge and be
- 24:05Speaker 1: almost untraceable, unfindable.
- 24:07Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 24:08Speaker 9: When typically in a drowning situation like this, obviously the
- 24:13Speaker 9: body immediately is going to start sinking, and if there
- 24:18Speaker 9: is a current flow at the bottom of.
- 24:21Speaker 3: That river, then it will move.
- 24:24Speaker 9: That body, typically in various directions, and there can be
- 24:30Speaker 9: you know, places where the body would get lodged. And
- 24:33Speaker 9: then once the body starts to the gases start to expand.
- 24:38Speaker 9: The essentially what happens is the body, you know, becomes buoyant.
- 24:42Speaker 9: And it sounds like in this situation, it sounds like
- 24:45Speaker 9: in this situation he was under the water. Uh, we
- 24:50Speaker 9: don't know how in terms of if she was unconscious,
- 24:52Speaker 9: et cetera. But you know, doctor prech assessment of that is.
- 24:59Speaker 9: And then when she comes up, you know she is discovered.
- 25:04Speaker 9: One other thing, Nancy real fast. Going back to Paul
- 25:07Speaker 9: and Connor on the boat. Remember when they left that dock,
- 25:12Speaker 9: they almost hit another bridge first. It's reported that Connor
- 25:18Speaker 9: corrected him and got him through that bridge real fast,
- 25:21Speaker 9: and that's when he started going in circles, and so
- 25:25Speaker 9: there's a lot of emotion. He was just fired up,
- 25:28Speaker 9: and that's when he took it out on the other
- 25:31Speaker 9: female on the boat there. So he not only hit
- 25:35Speaker 9: one bridge, he almost hit two bridges that night.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Again, so many days passed before her body was found,
- 25:43Speaker 1: and let me tell you it was not for lack
- 25:46Speaker 1: of trying. Take a listen to our cut two five
- 25:50Speaker 1: four from WJCL.
- 25:52Speaker 14: The row of cars behind me are the friends and
- 25:55Speaker 14: family of the missing teen who gathered here at eight
- 25:58Speaker 14: this morning to pray for her a safe return. Of
- 26:01Speaker 14: the Department of Natural Resources told WJCL twenty two News
- 26:05Speaker 14: that right now they have seven dive crews, two helicopters,
- 26:08Speaker 14: and about ten patrol boats all looking for nineteen year
- 26:11Speaker 14: old Mallory Beach. The family told me today she disappeared
- 26:14Speaker 14: after a boat she was riding in crashed here Sunday
- 26:17Speaker 14: morning in Archer's Creek near the Parris Island Marine Depot.
- 26:20Speaker 14: And the DNR also told me that they've had about
- 26:22Speaker 14: eight other agencies at the local and state level reaching
- 26:26Speaker 14: out to aid in this search, and they say one
- 26:28Speaker 14: of the biggest challenges in this search specifically is the
- 26:31Speaker 14: changing conditions of where they're looking right now, they're working
- 26:34Speaker 14: at twelve hour shifts from seven in the morning to
- 26:36Speaker 14: seven at night to find her.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Interesting that video actually captures Mallory Beach just before the crash,
- 26:44Speaker 1: and it captures Paul Murdog drunk and stumbling. Take a
- 26:50Speaker 1: listen to two five five our friends at Fox Carolina.
- 26:53Speaker 8: This surveillance video was captured near the New Day Doc
- 26:56Speaker 8: in Beaufort. You can see Beach here walking with her boyfriend.
- 26:59Speaker 8: Also pictured friend Connor Cook, who made the nine to
- 27:02Speaker 8: one one call that night, and Paul Murdall, who appears
- 27:05Speaker 8: to be stumbling. Beach exits the frame last scene smiling
- 27:09Speaker 8: and laughing. The video was taken at one thirteen am
- 27:12Speaker 8: on February twenty fourth, twenty nineteen, about an hour before
- 27:16Speaker 8: the crash.
- 27:17Speaker 1: What bridges, Oh what Brigard?
- 27:22Speaker 14: Oh?
- 27:22Speaker 1: What word?
- 27:23Speaker 8: Night Rich emergency We ran a boat crash on Arthur three.
- 27:30Speaker 1: And the immediate reaction of the other people on the
- 27:34Speaker 1: boat to Paul murdog is very telling. Take a listen
- 27:40Speaker 1: to our cut two one eight dash Can video.
- 27:47Speaker 5: Well you're just smiling like.
- 27:53Speaker 3: Boats funny.
- 27:57Speaker 15: To sit down.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Let me decipher what you just heard. You are hearing
- 28:03Speaker 1: Anthony Cook, the boyfriend of Mallory Beach, saying, Bro, you
- 28:08Speaker 1: e f and smile like it's effing funny, And Paul
- 28:12Speaker 1: Murdich is just sitting there smiling. This says after Malory
- 28:16Speaker 1: Beach has been thrown overboard, hit her head on cement
- 28:19Speaker 1: pilings and ultimately drowns, and the cops says sit down,
- 28:23Speaker 1: sit down, and he screams, my f and girlfriend's gone. Bro,
- 28:26Speaker 1: you think it's effing funny. They make him sit down,
- 28:30Speaker 1: and Cook says, I hope you wrot in e f
- 28:33Speaker 1: in hell now. Another ominous premonition I believe is in
- 28:40Speaker 1: our cut to seventeen, where we hear everyone on the
- 28:46Speaker 1: boat saying he'll never get in trouble for this. Take
- 28:49Speaker 1: a listen, you.
- 28:54Speaker 3: Smiling like funny sit down boats. You all know L Murdoch,
- 29:05Speaker 3: that's his son.
- 29:08Speaker 15: That's so grabbing.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Good look to Eric Bland, high profile lawyer out of
- 29:13Speaker 1: the South Carolina jurisdiction but practices all over, who is
- 29:16Speaker 1: representing many of the victims connected to the Murdoch family.
- 29:22Speaker 1: That night, the people on the boat said, he'll never
- 29:26Speaker 1: pay for this. He's a murdog.
- 29:28Speaker 6: Nancy. It's just it's chilling. It was bone chilling for
- 29:32Speaker 6: me just to hear that. I had forgotten that. And
- 29:36Speaker 6: you know, as the two years or well at now
- 29:39Speaker 6: the three four years have elapsed and we've seen who
- 29:43Speaker 6: this family really is. They are completely, all of them,
- 29:48Speaker 6: all of them out of touch with regular society, with
- 29:53Speaker 6: regular morais and values.
- 29:56Speaker 11: It is.
- 29:58Speaker 6: It's not surprising that a lot of these things are
- 30:01Speaker 6: coming out now and we're seeing them from Paul and
- 30:05Speaker 6: Buster and obviously Alex. Maggie we didn't see as much,
- 30:10Speaker 6: but of course no one really gave testimony about any
- 30:15Speaker 6: bad qualities that Maggie had, and I'm not saying she
- 30:18Speaker 6: had them, but we've seen Paul, Alex and Buster, we've
- 30:21Speaker 6: seen a little bit from the brothers. This is a
- 30:24Speaker 6: family that is completely out of touch with the rest
- 30:27Speaker 6: of society.
- 30:28Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.
- 30:29Speaker 1: And when you hear the actions of Alex Murdog the
- 30:34Speaker 1: night of the crash, it will make your blood run cold.
- 30:39Speaker 1: He goes to the hospital after these teens are raced
- 30:42Speaker 1: to the hospital, and instead of trying to help them,
- 30:46Speaker 1: he hovers over their bed their beds, sneaks into their
- 30:50Speaker 1: rooms to get them to change their testimony and not
- 30:52Speaker 1: cooperate with police, as opposed to being concerned and out
- 30:56Speaker 1: there looking for Mallory Beach. Karen Starting me well known
- 31:01Speaker 1: psychologist joining us out of Manhattan trauma and crime expert
- 31:06Speaker 1: at karenstart dot com as Karen with a C. Karen
- 31:11Speaker 1: is within a family. The children learn this behavior from
- 31:14Speaker 1: their parents.
- 31:15Speaker 12: Well, of course, Nancy, because listen to what's going on.
- 31:20Speaker 12: You're saying he's out of touch, but he really wasn't,
- 31:23Speaker 12: or someone said he's out of touch, He's not out
- 31:25Speaker 12: of touch. He knew enough to show up at that
- 31:28Speaker 12: hospital and here you're talking about a missing girl, right
- 31:33Speaker 12: and he's running around from room to room trying to
- 31:37Speaker 12: make sure that nobody testifies against his son. So he's
- 31:41Speaker 12: very much in touch with protecting his son and making
- 31:46Speaker 12: sure they're not caught. And that's what their family was like.
- 31:50Speaker 12: They pushed everything to make sure that things worked on
- 31:55Speaker 12: their side for their benefit, and they understood good how
- 32:00Speaker 12: to do that with the law. I had to manipulate,
- 32:03Speaker 12: how to just do whatever they could to make sure
- 32:07Speaker 12: that people would not be able to testify if they
- 32:10Speaker 12: possibly could do that.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Now, when you hear the damage to the boat, you're
- 32:16Speaker 1: going to be shocked that on the scene, no breathalyzer
- 32:21Speaker 1: was administered to Paul Murdoch. Remember these people, they're at
- 32:28Speaker 1: the scene, the AMTS, the cops. They all know Alex
- 32:34Speaker 1: Murdoch as a legal heir in South Carolina, and no
- 32:39Speaker 1: breathalyzer was administered to his son, Paul Mardag. After they
- 32:45Speaker 1: see this, take a listen to two fifty seven Fox.
- 32:49Speaker 8: Carolina dispatch calls also paint a picture of Mallory's final moments.
- 32:54Speaker 3: They we're driving at a high rate of speed in
- 32:56Speaker 3: the water in a boat.
- 32:57Speaker 1: That female was sitting on her boyfriend. They hit the bridge.
- 33:02Speaker 3: He is now missing the frock left.
- 33:04Speaker 13: Five, which could be the court pocket. The driver shop
- 33:07Speaker 13: is good, open from the nose all the way to
- 33:09Speaker 13: put back where they fixed for the gap where they
- 33:13Speaker 13: boat actually came a part at the theme.
- 33:15Speaker 8: D n R officers took these photos aboard the boat
- 33:18Speaker 8: the next day, showing coolers filled with drinks still on
- 33:21Speaker 8: ice and emptied bottles and cans left behind.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Yet no breathalyzer at the scene. Take a listen to
- 33:27Speaker 1: two three six wc BD DO.
- 33:31Speaker 16: Documents show that none of the responding officers administered a
- 33:34Speaker 16: sobriety test, despite reports that Paul was visibly intoxicated and
- 33:38Speaker 16: his blood levels were taken at four am when Paul
- 33:40Speaker 16: was at the hospital. Several hospital workers documented about Paul's behavior,
- 33:45Speaker 16: as well as his father Alex Murdall and grandfather Randolph
- 33:48Speaker 16: Murdle has troublesome and belligerent.
- 33:51Speaker 5: Union crashing the marriage crash into that Rock or.
- 33:55Speaker 8: Mr.
- 34:00Speaker 16: New information from scdn R shows that Paul was consuming
- 34:03Speaker 16: alcohol earlier that day leading up to the crash, buying
- 34:06Speaker 16: drinks of gas station, going to parties, and drinking at
- 34:09Speaker 16: local bars.
- 34:10Speaker 1: He was drunk all ri Take a listen to two
- 34:12Speaker 1: five eight Fox Carolina.
- 34:13Speaker 8: After the crash, four of the five teens were rushed
- 34:16Speaker 8: to Bufort Memorial Hospital. A nurse stated Paul Murdall was
- 34:20Speaker 8: quote only wearing boxers and that he was grossly intoxicated
- 34:24Speaker 8: and belligerent, adding that he appeared to be quote the
- 34:27Speaker 8: most intoxicated and uncooperative of those involved. The hospital took
- 34:32Speaker 8: a blood test from Murder around four m that showed
- 34:35Speaker 8: Murdaw's BAC set at zero point two eighty six. That's
- 34:39Speaker 8: more than three times the legal limit.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Two Doctor d Prie, what is point two eighty six? Explain?
- 34:45Speaker 11: That is an extremely high level of alcohol at Someone
- 34:49Speaker 11: with that level of alcohol is going to be visibly impaired.
- 34:52Speaker 11: They're going to have obviously poor judgment, their reflexes are
- 34:55Speaker 11: going to be pretty much neil. They are going to
- 34:58Speaker 11: be so drunk that can hardly stand up.
- 35:01Speaker 1: But what did Murdog do that night? Take a listen
- 35:05Speaker 1: to our cut two four nine. This is Murdog on
- 35:09Speaker 1: the stand under oath for whatever that counts for with
- 35:13Speaker 1: Alex Murdog, listen, did you generally walk around.
- 35:15Speaker 3: With your bassinating out of your popka? Generally speaking, those sir,
- 35:20Speaker 3: I did not.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Or only when you wanted some advantage from it?
- 35:26Speaker 3: Did I want some advantage from wearing it like that.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Did I hanging out in my pocket when I wanted
- 35:32Speaker 3: an advantage? Yes, I may have. I certainly may have.
- 35:41Speaker 3: What advantage does you want when?
- 35:44Speaker 8: Then?
- 35:45Speaker 15: I don't even recall this, mister Waters, But if I
- 35:49Speaker 15: was wanting some advantage as you say it, I guess
- 35:54Speaker 15: And I don't remember this, but I guess I would.
- 35:57Speaker 15: Would you know, as I said, a badge has a
- 36:02Speaker 15: warming effect with other law enforcements.
- 36:04Speaker 1: A warming effect. Eric Bland, what's that supposed to me?
- 36:09Speaker 6: It has a fixing effect and not a warming effect.
- 36:12Speaker 6: He's trying to flex his authority to get around protocol.
- 36:19Speaker 6: The fact that you can interfere with an investigation, the
- 36:23Speaker 6: fact that you can break yellow tape and get inside
- 36:28Speaker 6: of a crime scene, or get your friends in your
- 36:30Speaker 6: house after your wife and son are murdered at a
- 36:33Speaker 6: crime scene, That's what it is. It's called the fix.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Nancy Well, thank goodness, there was actually a video from
- 36:39Speaker 1: the hospital. Because Murdoch said he didn't remember anything like that.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Listen to two fifty see to.
- 36:44Speaker 3: This jury that there was any intention or purpose to
- 36:46Speaker 3: you doing that at the hospital on the night of
- 36:49Speaker 3: the boat rack.
- 36:49Speaker 15: I'm saying I don't remember using that badge.
- 36:53Speaker 3: And I specifically remember you know, I'm sorry, go.
- 36:58Speaker 15: Ahead, and you asked you such a remember what that
- 37:02Speaker 15: like when I when I went into the room with
- 37:04Speaker 15: the kids, that I pulled my badge out, And I
- 37:06Speaker 15: know that I did not do.
- 37:07Speaker 3: That, No, because it was on your pocket like that. Correct,
- 37:11Speaker 3: It's on my pocket like that right then?
- 37:15Speaker 1: And then listen to two five one murder being questioned
- 37:19Speaker 1: by prosecutor creating Waters about trying to convince the other
- 37:22Speaker 1: chains not to testify.
- 37:24Speaker 3: When I got there, I went to Paul Paul.
- 37:26Speaker 15: When I left Paul Paul, I went to Morgan Dowdy,
- 37:29Speaker 15: who was like a daughter to Maggie and I had
- 37:33Speaker 15: dated Paul for a long time. And I went to Morgan.
- 37:38Speaker 15: Morgan had an injury to her hand that that was
- 37:42Speaker 15: that was bad, and she was very upset about Mallory
- 37:48Speaker 15: and they were working on her. So I left her room.
- 37:51Speaker 15: I went back to Paul Paul. At some point in time,
- 37:54Speaker 15: I know that I went to Connor's room, and I
- 37:56Speaker 15: believe those are the only rooms I went to.
- 38:00Speaker 3: And I can't tell you that with certainty.
- 38:02Speaker 13: While you're wearing that badge like that, did you tell
- 38:04Speaker 13: any of the kids who are in the boat ragging
- 38:06Speaker 13: not to cooperate with law enforcement.
- 38:08Speaker 15: I never told anybody not to cooperate with law enforcement.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Well that's not what they said. So who do we believe?
- 38:16Speaker 1: And I remember he's referring to Paul Paul. That would
- 38:19Speaker 1: be Paul Murdog, the son he murdered. Trying to avoid
- 38:24Speaker 1: financial ruin because of this boat crash, Alex Murdog set
- 38:29Speaker 1: to testify under oath in the Mallory Beach case. We
- 38:34Speaker 1: only pray the victims' families get some of the Murdog
- 38:39Speaker 1: money what's left of it. We wait as justice unpoles.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,