Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers/Lions - Victory Formula
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
- 0:07Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Posh, come on, Posh.
- 0:10Speaker 2: This is my friend T-Bone.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Let's have some fun.
- 0:14Speaker 2: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Do it live.
- 0:28Speaker 4: We certainly got to get our run game going. That's
- 0:30Speaker 4: something that can also help The whole thing tie in
- 0:33Speaker 4: when you have your run game, then obviously you have
- 0:36Speaker 4: your play passes. So you have your your control in
- 0:40Speaker 4: the clock. You're getting explosive plays. The longer our offense
- 0:43Speaker 4: is able to stay out there, your defense can get
- 0:45Speaker 4: a little bit more in the tank. It's a huge
- 0:47Speaker 4: part of what we're doing.
- 0:50Speaker 3: There you go.
- 0:50Speaker 5: That is Dave Canales talking about getting the run game going.
- 0:54Speaker 5: Lord knows we've all been obsessing over the desire to
- 0:58Speaker 5: see that. Bone brought up a great point. The yards
- 1:00Speaker 5: per carry number is up there in the top third
- 1:04Speaker 5: or so of the league. The total yards, the total carries,
- 1:08Speaker 5: the consistency of it, not necessarily there. And I'm sure
- 1:13Speaker 5: that will come up, Bone, in our victory formula. Have
- 1:15Speaker 5: we ever done a victory formula before a game that
- 1:18Speaker 5: did not.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Include run the football? I win the turnover battle.
- 1:23Speaker 6: I have those two things ever not been included. So
- 1:27Speaker 6: I guess we got to get them out of the way.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:30Speaker 6: The formulas don't really range far off from each other.
- 1:34Speaker 6: Although the opponents change and sometimes the weather condition changes.
- 1:37Speaker 6: People are saying we need a downpour on Sunday night.
- 1:40Speaker 5: People want to rain, man. They want to do a rain.
- 1:42Speaker 5: They want a Mac and Bone rain dance. ahead of
- 1:46Speaker 5: the game with Finney rain dancing in a Speedo. That
- 1:51Speaker 5: was a suggestion out there.
- 1:52Speaker 6: Why does it always end with him with less clothes on?
- 1:54Speaker 6: How about we put more clothes on?
- 1:55Speaker 7: It would be the honor of my life, guy, to
- 1:58Speaker 7: get in the Speedo and dance to bring a downpour
- 2:02Speaker 7: on Sunday Night Football.
- 2:03Speaker 5: Yeah, you should come out to the doghouse and do
- 2:05Speaker 5: a Panther Speedo rain dance.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Why am I asking for this too, Bone? What's wrong
- 2:10Speaker 3: with me? I have no idea.
- 2:11Speaker 6: The one thing I think we do know in this game, Mac,
- 2:14Speaker 6: there will be, I think, depending on the weather situation,
- 2:18Speaker 6: this will be an offensive showcase. The way both teams
- 2:21Speaker 6: are defending so far, the loss of players in both
- 2:25Speaker 6: secondaries right now. Hell, the Lions are giving up 32
- 2:29Speaker 6: points per game. They're last in defense, and they are
- 2:32Speaker 6: in the bottom of a lot of defensive categories. There
- 2:34Speaker 6: is going to be a lot of points, I think,
- 2:36Speaker 6: in this football game.
- 2:37Speaker 5: So are we putting in the formula that you have
- 2:40Speaker 5: to probably score 30-plus to win this game?
- 2:42Speaker 3: I think so. At least 30.
- 2:44Speaker 5: I think that's the way that we feel is that
- 2:47Speaker 5: we have to be able to put up a ton
- 2:50Speaker 5: of points, and the first number should probably be a
- 2:52Speaker 5: three to win this game because the Lions are their
- 2:56Speaker 5: tail two units, right? Offense, third in points on offense,
- 3:00Speaker 5: ninth in rush, eighth in pass.
- 3:02Speaker 3: They're balanced.
- 3:03Speaker 5: Jared Goff has eight touchdowns, zero picks, and a 116 rating.
- 3:08Speaker 5: But that defense, Bo, as you pointed out, their pass
- 3:11Speaker 5: defense has been absolutely atrocious. Their run defense is ranked 22nd.
- 3:15Speaker 5: Their pass defense is dead last in the league. They
- 3:18Speaker 5: are giving up one yard shy of 300 yards on average.
- 3:21Speaker 5: They are getting lit. Even the Jets passing game lit.
- 3:24Speaker 5: Geno Smith lit them up for 277 last week. He
- 3:26Speaker 5: was 31 for 37 for 300 plus.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Oh, for 300.
- 3:27Speaker 6: Okay, the sack numbers brought it down to 277. He
- 3:29Speaker 6: was 31 for 37 for 300 plus yards last week.
- 3:31Speaker 6: Here's the thing.
- 3:32Speaker 3: 32nd points per game. 31st in opponent's yard per game.
- 3:34Speaker 3: 31st in third down defense.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Um.
- 3:48Speaker 6: 31st in red zone defense, and the list goes on
- 3:51Speaker 6: and on and on. In one area last week where
- 3:53Speaker 6: the Jets exploited the Lions, they had Garrett Wilson get
- 3:57Speaker 6: 100 yards receiving, but Kenyon Sadiq. had over 100 yards
- 4:02Speaker 6: at tight end last week. They gave up a lot
- 4:03Speaker 6: to the tight end last week. Can the Panthers get,
- 4:07Speaker 6: whether it be Waller in the scene, whatever it may be,
- 4:10Speaker 6: can they do some things that Sadiq did last week
- 4:12Speaker 6: up the middle of the football field? Got to use
- 4:14Speaker 6: the tight ends. Got to use the tight ends. And
- 4:15Speaker 6: you got to use the wide receivers. T-Mac needs to
- 4:18Speaker 6: bounce back. I think you need Coker to play.
- 4:21Speaker 5: And I do think it sounds like, knock on wood,
- 4:23Speaker 5: I'm not trying to curse it the way I cursed
- 4:24Speaker 5: the Braves yesterday, but I do think it sounds like
- 4:27Speaker 5: there's a chance Coker can play in this one, Bone. But, like,
- 4:30Speaker 5: they gave up five deep balls alone to Geno Smith.
- 4:34Speaker 5: Five pass plays, Bone, that travel more than 20 yards
- 4:37Speaker 5: in the air. The way Bryce Young has thrown the
- 4:39Speaker 5: deep ball, and I know it wasn't perfect against Cleveland,
- 4:42Speaker 5: but that requires pass protection too. And the Detroit pass
- 4:48Speaker 5: rush has been damn good. They got four guys with
- 4:50Speaker 5: at least two sacks, and Aiden Hutchinson is an absolute
- 4:54Speaker 5: beast who has three and a half sacks and 21 pressures.
- 4:59Speaker 5: I mean, they've got to find a way to double
- 5:01Speaker 5: team help on Hutchinson's side. Has to happen a lot,
- 5:06Speaker 5: doesn't it?
- 5:06Speaker 6: Well, there's a problem on each side of the ball
- 5:08Speaker 6: where they have guys that can completely wreck everything that
- 5:11Speaker 6: you do. Hutchinson on defense and Jameer Gibbs on offense.
- 5:16Speaker 6: They're just two absolute game wreckers. But then, you know,
- 5:20Speaker 6: without Mike Jack and Horn, especially the first game this
- 5:23Speaker 6: year without both guys, well, you've got Amidron St. Brown
- 5:27Speaker 6: and Jamison Williams. So it's... It's just pick your poison
- 5:29Speaker 6: on that one, I think, this week. There's worries all
- 5:32Speaker 6: over the place on that side.
- 5:33Speaker 5: Which goes back to the point of score 30-plus, right?
- 5:37Speaker 5: Score 31 or so, 34 maybe even, to win this game.
- 5:41Speaker 5: What do you think it will take to be as
- 5:43Speaker 5: banged up as we are and find a way to
- 5:47Speaker 5: pull off the upset on Sunday Night Football? Texter says
- 5:50Speaker 5: move the game to the daytime. We do not win
- 5:53Speaker 5: primetime games. I don't know if that's an option, Bo.
- 5:57Speaker 5: Not sure we've got. I definitely understand your feeling, though.
- 6:01Speaker 6: You can't flex it this close to the game unless there's, like,
- 6:04Speaker 6: some sort of hurricane coming and they say, oh, my God,
- 6:06Speaker 6: we've got to move the game.
- 6:07Speaker 3: There you go. Panthers start.
- 6:08Speaker 5: Tep Daddy called a league office saying we've got to
- 6:11Speaker 5: move this for weather, even though I think it's also
- 6:13Speaker 5: going to be raining during the day. today we gotta
- 6:14Speaker 5: deal with hurricane hutchinson that's true man 704-570-9610 texter says
- 6:21Speaker 5: why does this have to why do all the injuries
- 6:23Speaker 5: have to hit before the prime time game yeah it's
- 6:26Speaker 5: a couple other people were texting that too i hate
- 6:28Speaker 5: that you want to put on a good showing everybody's
- 6:30Speaker 5: watching and our great corner tandem's out Our offensive line
- 6:34Speaker 5: bone is starting three backups. Like, I just, I do hate,
- 6:37Speaker 5: I mean, you don't want that ever, but it does
- 6:39Speaker 5: suck that it's our big close-up.
- 6:42Speaker 3: Hadn't had a Sunday night game in 11 years.
- 6:44Speaker 1: You know? Yeah.
- 6:45Speaker 6: A texter's upset that we do this every week and
- 6:48Speaker 6: we put out stats and how much better we are
- 6:51Speaker 6: than the other team. Why do we do this every week?
- 6:54Speaker 6: Had to tell this guy. It's called the victory formula.
- 6:57Speaker 6: We're giving you the ways the Panthers can win. So, yes,
- 7:00Speaker 6: it may come across as homerish, but it's literally the
- 7:03Speaker 6: keys to victory in this football game. Do you want
- 7:06Speaker 6: us to do the defeat formula? We can do that
- 7:08Speaker 6: as well. I think we need a disclaimer.
- 7:10Speaker 5: That says there's a very good chance that none of
- 7:13Speaker 5: this stuff happens at all. But Mac and Bone are
- 7:16Speaker 5: just asking you what things need to happen to create
- 7:19Speaker 5: the unlikely occurrence that the banged up Panthers win this
- 7:22Speaker 5: football game.
- 7:22Speaker 3: The Mac and Bone show is for entertainment only.
- 7:24Speaker 6: Please don't take them seriously or wage off of their predictions.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Unless you're going Mac.
- 7:31Speaker 6: To harrah's resort casino that's when you wage that's when
- 7:34Speaker 6: you go there put your money down at harrah's but
- 7:37Speaker 6: don't do it because mac and bone are.
- 7:39Speaker 5: Giving you stats definitely not this texter i would agree
- 7:43Speaker 5: with the text you read the victory formula is the
- 7:47Speaker 5: lions plane does not work and they don't make the
- 7:50Speaker 5: trip macker 82 says mike lee is gonna ball out
- 7:56Speaker 5: breakout game Do Will Lee's friends call him Mike? Those
- 8:01Speaker 5: are the mistakes. No wonder that guy's nicknamed Mac-er. Do
- 8:04Speaker 5: all the Macs mess up names? I got Mike Lee on.
- 8:09Speaker 3: My list, too.
- 8:10Speaker 6: Is Mac-er 82 Mac your old AOL screen name?
- 8:15Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Welcome, you've got mail. AOL screen name.
- 8:20Speaker 5: Squirrel Meat Henderson says Panthers score 40. God, if we
- 8:25Speaker 5: had a healthy old line, I'd be right there with
- 8:27Speaker 5: you trumpeting that. But, again, I think they can have
- 8:32Speaker 5: a big day. I mean, the way quarterbacks, Geno Smith, 330,
- 8:36Speaker 5: the way quarterbacks are lighting up the Lions secondary, 10
- 8:39Speaker 5: deep balls allowed in three games. But, again, the protection's
- 8:42Speaker 5: got to hold up. You've got to get some sort
- 8:45Speaker 5: of run game so they can't just tee off. Let's see, 704.5, 709.6.
- 8:49Speaker 5: Fit Daddy, what do you think, Panther Fitty? What would
- 8:53Speaker 5: you throw in there as part of the formula to
- 8:55Speaker 5: pull off this upset?
- 8:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
- 9:00Speaker 7: I would like to think that, Mac, with the way
- 9:02Speaker 7: that Jared Goff doesn't move well in the pocket, can
- 9:06Speaker 7: you maybe force him into a bad mistake or two?
- 9:09Speaker 7: Can you get some turnovers and maybe give this offense
- 9:13Speaker 7: that has been explosive, but can you give them some
- 9:16Speaker 7: short fields? Can you give them the ball on the
- 9:19Speaker 7: plus side of the 50 once or twice? Mac, I
- 9:22Speaker 7: look at this game and... You know, Jalen Phillips has
- 9:25Speaker 7: been good, two sacks, 12 pressures, first three games. I
- 9:29Speaker 7: need a Derrick Brown game from him. I need him
- 9:31Speaker 7: to be a menace, just wrecking shop on the interior
- 9:35Speaker 7: of their offensive line.
- 9:37Speaker 3: You need a Derrick Brown game from Derrick Brown? Yes.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Or from Jalen Phillips? Both.
- 9:41Speaker 7: But, like, I know what you're saying where you expect
- 9:46Speaker 7: Averro to maybe go back to more zone play.
- 9:50Speaker 5: But got to keep the big plays from happening. That's
- 9:52Speaker 5: what you got to do. Keep them in front of you.
- 9:54Speaker 5: And then to your point, make them run more plays.
- 9:56Speaker 5: Don't let them have big plays, Finney. And then you
- 9:58Speaker 5: increase the likelihood of turnovers. But I've also loved the
- 10:02Speaker 5: aggressive nature.
- 10:03Speaker 7: Like, Mac, there were plays to be made last week
- 10:05Speaker 7: on Deshaun Watson when he blitzed him. Like, Trayvon Merrick had, like,
- 10:09Speaker 7: three that he just didn't finish. So, like, golf doesn't
- 10:12Speaker 7: have the escapability.
- 10:15Speaker 3: That's a good point. I agree with you.
- 10:18Speaker 7: We're probably going to be in that big shell, keep
- 10:20Speaker 7: everything in front of us. But when the time is right, go.
- 10:23Speaker 5: Get that guy. I'm not saying you blitz 0% of
- 10:26Speaker 5: the time. I'm just saying, being 7th in the league
- 10:29Speaker 5: in blitz percentage right now, I don't think that number's staying.
- 10:33Speaker 5: But yeah, Devin Lloyd's an animal blitzing, right? And I
- 10:36Speaker 5: think you made a really good point there. Plus, if
- 10:41Speaker 5: you stay back in zone 100% of the time, Jared Goff's.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Going to light you up.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:44Speaker 3: You got to show him different looks.
- 10:47Speaker 6: Can I tell you something that scares me right now
- 10:49Speaker 6: that I'm looking at here?
- 10:50Speaker 3: What's that? Gibbs and St.
- 10:51Speaker 6: Brown, 11 touchdowns combined already this year. We're just into October.
- 10:58Speaker 6: These guys are ballers, man. Gibbs has six and St.
- 11:00Speaker 6: Brown has five. Jameson Williams. Has not had one yet
- 11:03Speaker 6: this year, but the other two guys, yeah, 11 already.
- 11:07Speaker 6: Goff's been really good. He has not been throwing the
- 11:09Speaker 6: ball downfield. Knock on wood.
- 11:12Speaker 5: I don't want this to be one of these stats
- 11:13Speaker 5: that we bring up that y'all watch the game and
- 11:16Speaker 5: bitch about. I can just tell you the stats. I
- 11:18Speaker 5: can't tell you if the Panthers can keep those stats
- 11:21Speaker 5: being the way they are. But Goff has only completed
- 11:25Speaker 5: two deep balls all season. Only 4% of his attempts
- 11:29Speaker 5: are deep. A lot of it, it's been short, been intermediate.
- 11:32Speaker 5: So maybe, maybe they, you know, maybe it's moving the
- 11:35Speaker 5: ball down the field and it's not the big pass plays.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Alex in Steel Creek said, I like that, Fitty. Great point.
- 11:43Speaker 3: The Fit Dog brought it, baby. He brought it. He
- 11:47Speaker 3: brought it.
- 11:47Speaker 6: One problem when you blitz golf is you have to
- 11:51Speaker 6: worry about the safety valve of Gibbs also out of
- 11:54Speaker 6: the backfield where if you get to him, you better
- 11:56Speaker 6: get him because it could just be a quick out
- 11:59Speaker 6: to Gibbs and all of a sudden he's gone.
- 12:01Speaker 3: So you got to be careful with that as well.
- 12:02Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 12:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:05Speaker 3: You better get golf on the blitz or else Gibbs
- 12:07Speaker 3: slips out. You're in trouble. Yeah, you got to. I mean,
- 12:09Speaker 3: you have to tackle.
- 12:10Speaker 5: I do like the fact that we got the warm-up
- 12:13Speaker 5: for Gibbs with Bijan.
- 12:15Speaker 1: It's true.
- 12:16Speaker 5: I think they're very similar in the way they can
- 12:17Speaker 5: affect the passing game and affect the running game. If
- 12:20Speaker 5: we do the job that we did on Bijan against Gibbs,
- 12:23Speaker 5: I would take that in a heartbeat. I'm not guaranteeing
- 12:26Speaker 5: that's going to happen, but I would say now here's
- 12:27Speaker 5: the problem, though. Jack Strand ain't walking in that door
- 12:31Speaker 5: and putting on Lions Blue. No, he would fall down
- 12:33Speaker 5: if he was. Cooper Rush ain't putting on Lions Blue.
- 12:37Speaker 5: This dude, Austin, says, stop blitzing. Every bad play this
- 12:41Speaker 5: season has been bet on plays where we had quote-unquote pressure.
- 12:45Speaker 3: But why is that?
- 12:46Speaker 5: But Fitty's point is those guys made plays, Watson and Williams,
- 12:51Speaker 5: because of their escapability.
- 12:53Speaker 3: You remember the Falcons making plays when we blitzed?
- 12:56Speaker 8: No.
- 12:56Speaker 1: No.
- 12:57Speaker 3: So the point Fitty made is a great one.
- 13:00Speaker 5: When you blitz, you have a much better chance of
- 13:02Speaker 5: getting golfed down than you did Watson and Williams.
- 13:06Speaker 3: I pray for the day we talk to an educated audience.
- 13:10Speaker 9: Oh, no!
- 13:11Speaker 1: Fitty!
- 13:12Speaker 3: These are our customers, Fitty! These are our meal tickets.
- 13:15Speaker 3: How dare you? I mean, but this guy's saying stop blitzing.
- 13:18Speaker 3: You mean Gwizzy Gobbler right here is uneducated? If you
- 13:21Speaker 3: know what you're.
- 13:22Speaker 7: Watching, the blitz isn't the reason why they've given up
- 13:26Speaker 7: big pass plays or big run plays. It's because Phillips, Princely,
- 13:31Speaker 7: that guy hasn't, you know... Kept gap in lane integrity.
- 13:35Speaker 7: Merrick flat out just didn't tackle Deshaun Watson.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a blitz.
- 13:39Speaker 7: Amaro put the guys in the position to make the
- 13:42Speaker 7: freaking play.
- 13:43Speaker 3: And if they would have made the play, you would
- 13:45Speaker 3: have been praising the blitz. You can't have it both ways.
- 13:48Speaker 5: I think the ultimate point is that you can blitz
- 13:51Speaker 5: and know this dude ain't going to escape you. I
- 13:55Speaker 5: think that's the ultimate point here, and you couldn't do
- 13:58Speaker 5: that with Williams and Watson. You know what I mean?
- 14:00Speaker 6: People are now setting in their education levels and where
- 14:03Speaker 6: they went to school, looking for Fiddy and where.
- 14:06Speaker 3: He finished his college degree. So this is going to
- 14:08Speaker 3: go up.
- 14:08Speaker 7: Number one in my class. I was so damn good,
- 14:11Speaker 7: the school went out of business. Because they couldn't top
- 14:14Speaker 7: me after I was in the Carolina School of Broadcasting.
- 14:16Speaker 3: They said, that guy's too good. We're broke AF. We're
- 14:20Speaker 3: shutting our doors.
- 14:21Speaker 6: They closed because of the pandemic, fool. I thought it
- 14:25Speaker 6: was the embarrassment of having you as a student. I
- 14:27Speaker 6: thought they were shamed. I was also number one. There
- 14:30Speaker 6: were seven people in the class. Oh, my God.
- 14:35Speaker 3: And I only got into that.
- 14:37Speaker 6: I only got the internship here from that school because
- 14:40Speaker 6: the first guy they called was working at Burger King.
- 14:42Speaker 5: People are firing back at Fitty right now. This is
- 14:46Speaker 5: not good. Mute the mic, dump Fitty. That's from Life
- 14:48Speaker 5: That Likes to Paycheck. Joey from Huntersville, go put your
- 14:51Speaker 5: bikini on and shut the hell up. If you just
- 14:54Speaker 5: tuned in, that is not a sexist comment towards a woman, y'all.
- 14:57Speaker 5: That is somebody blasting Fitty who just ripped our audience apart.
- 15:01Speaker 5: This dude says, from Travis' Statesville, says, let's go Fitty.
- 15:06Speaker 5: He's loving it.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Oh, and the people that are pushing back, guess what?
- 15:09Speaker 7: You're exposing yourself.
- 15:11Speaker 3: You don't know ball.
- 15:12Speaker 7: That's why you listen to my fat ass tell you.
- 15:15Speaker 6: Oh, hold on.
- 15:15Speaker 3: They want an IQ test for Fitty live on the air.
- 15:18Speaker 5: This dude said, Fitty acts like he went to Harvard
- 15:21Speaker 5: and he's ripping all of us.
- 15:24Speaker 3: There is some irony there.
- 15:26Speaker 6: Our school is now a vacation rentals place.
- 15:31Speaker 3: Is that true?
- 15:33Speaker 1: Yes.
- 15:35Speaker 5: That's what you did to that place, Fitty. You shut
- 15:37Speaker 5: it down with your mere presence. Permanent vacation. Okay, now
- 15:41Speaker 5: this is some good context here. Fitty wants smart audience.
- 15:45Speaker 5: Kakalak says golf has an 82% completion percentage against the Blitz, Fitty.
- 15:51Speaker 5: To that point, Maybe I should have looked at this
- 15:53Speaker 5: stat in my notes before we got blitz heavy. Hung, hung, hung,
- 15:57Speaker 5: hung go? gung-ho on the blitz uh golf 80 141
- 16:03Speaker 5: rating five touchdowns and zero interceptions versus the blitz this season.
- 16:07Speaker 8: Means he's due for a bad game you gotta pick
- 16:09Speaker 8: your spots back we have to pick your spots we
- 16:11Speaker 8: have breaking text news here from denver justin okay he
- 16:15Speaker 8: says great point by fitty but he stole it from
- 16:18Speaker 8: his text that he sent in at 8 11 a.m
- 16:20Speaker 8: this morning he said word for word What Fiddy said
- 16:24Speaker 8: to you on the air, he wants Fiddy to now
- 16:26Speaker 8: acknowledge that you stole from him.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Oh, damn, Fiddy. Fiddy, you a fraud over there, Fiddy?
- 16:34Speaker 3: There's nothing fraudulent about.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Me, Mac.
- 16:36Speaker 6: I feel like Fiddy right there. His response told you
- 16:39Speaker 6: you got busted there.
- 16:40Speaker 3: Oh, that's something, baby. That is something right there. Mac,
- 16:44Speaker 3: will you now give credit to Denver Justin for his point?
- 16:47Speaker 3: Denver Justin, great point that Fiddy stole from you there, man.
- 16:50Speaker 3: Maybe two great minds thinking alike. Maybe that's what ends
- 16:53Speaker 3: up happening.
- 16:53Speaker 6: When we come back, we're going to talk to former
- 16:55Speaker 6: longtime Detroit player and broadcaster Lomas Brown of the Lions
- 17:01Speaker 6: Radio Network about the Detroit side of the matchup Sunday night.
- 17:06Speaker 6: Sports Radio 92.
- 17:30Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you, rocking
- 17:35Speaker 5: and rolling, man. Getting ready for football. We had a
- 17:38Speaker 5: text where somebody says, Mack, I've just listened to the
- 17:41Speaker 5: last 40 minutes of the show. It feels like it's entirely,
- 17:46Speaker 5: how badly are your college teams going to get beat
- 17:48Speaker 5: this weekend?
- 17:49Speaker 3: Can anyone cover the spread?
- 17:51Speaker 6: And then on Sunday, what is the in-depth formula where
- 17:56Speaker 6: our injury-plagued team can steal a football game? I can,
- 18:00Speaker 6: we can only deal with the situations we are handed bone.
- 18:03Speaker 6: That's all we can do, man. Thursday's usually a low point.
- 18:05Speaker 6: We rev it up by Friday.
- 18:07Speaker 3: All right.
- 18:07Speaker 6: Let us, let us get low to come back up again.
- 18:11Speaker 6: Shawty getting low over there, baby. Tomorrow, tomorrow we, we
- 18:15Speaker 6: bring the confidence tomorrow.
- 18:16Speaker 3: I don't know. You'll find out.
- 18:17Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, we got some situations on Saturdays and
- 18:20Speaker 5: Sundays right now. But, and we got the lions and
- 18:23Speaker 5: that high powered offense coming in. Let's talk about the Lions,
- 18:27Speaker 5: the offense, the way the defense is playing, and how
- 18:30Speaker 5: they match up with the Panthers, with a man that
- 18:33Speaker 5: played in the trenches in the NFL for years. He
- 18:36Speaker 5: is and has been for a while now, the color
- 18:38Speaker 5: analyst on the Lions radio network. He is Lomas Brown,
- 18:42Speaker 5: and he joins us on the Mac and Bone show
- 18:44Speaker 5: here in Charlotte.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Lomas, what's going on, man?
- 18:46Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm doing great, guys. Feeling good, man.
- 18:50Speaker 1: I like it. I love the energy, too. I can
- 18:53Speaker 1: feel it. I can hear it in your voices.
- 18:55Speaker 5: That's cool, and I know you're going to bring the energy, too.
- 18:58Speaker 5: We've talked to you in the past. From the outside
- 19:02Speaker 5: looking in, do you think the Lions are licking their
- 19:06Speaker 5: chops over the Panthers' injury situation? Horn and Mike Jackson
- 19:10Speaker 5: both out. I mean, it's going to be three backups
- 19:13Speaker 5: on the offensive line. Do you feel like the Lions
- 19:16Speaker 5: are looking at the Panthers as vulnerable? Do you feel
- 19:19Speaker 5: that way?
- 19:21Speaker 1: I'll say this. Welcome to our world. I mean, we've
- 19:25Speaker 1: been dealing with this all year long with Kirby Branch.
- 19:29Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brian Branch, Kirby Joseph, you know, Avante Maddox.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I mean, we're depleted of safeties, and we lost one
- 19:37Speaker 1: in our corner. So we've been dealing with this all
- 19:41Speaker 1: season long. And, you know, again, on the defensive side
- 19:46Speaker 1: of the ball, you see we haven't played well, and
- 19:48Speaker 1: it's been because of the injuries. so I think, yes,
- 19:52Speaker 1: the Lions, especially on the offensive side of the ball,
- 19:56Speaker 1: they have to be looking at this game as a
- 19:59Speaker 1: game offensively to try to get right. Because even though
- 20:04Speaker 1: we put 31 points up in each of our first games,
- 20:09Speaker 1: our offense still hadn't been clicking the way it's been
- 20:13Speaker 1: clicking in the past. And it is a concern, and
- 20:17Speaker 1: those guys are trying to remedy that. And we're hoping
- 20:21Speaker 1: that Sunday that can happen for the Detroit Lions.
- 20:27Speaker 3: How much of a concern on our end do you
- 20:29Speaker 3: think it's going to be? No J.C.
- 20:31Speaker 6: Horn, Mike Jackson in the secondary against those wideouts. We've
- 20:37Speaker 6: been worried about Gibbs' wellness, but now those wideouts versus
- 20:41Speaker 6: our secondary, how big of a problem will that be
- 20:44Speaker 6: on the Panther side?
- 20:46Speaker 1: It could be a major problem. As you say, man,
- 20:49Speaker 1: we bring out Jameis Williams. We have Amirah St. Brown,
- 20:53Speaker 1: probably one of the best wide receivers in this game
- 20:57Speaker 1: at catching the ball and running routes. We got the
- 21:01Speaker 1: young fella in Isaac Tesla, who we're trying to incorporate
- 21:05Speaker 1: in our game plan. And then we have the reliable
- 21:09Speaker 1: Sam Laporta. Very, very good tight end. So we have
- 21:13Speaker 1: weapons to attack you guys. I just think from what
- 21:18Speaker 1: we've been going through, the best way to attack a
- 21:21Speaker 1: great passing offense is by getting those front four, front
- 21:27Speaker 1: five guys to get pressure sacks hits on your quarterback.
- 21:32Speaker 1: If your quarterback doesn't have a lot of time to
- 21:35Speaker 1: stand back there and scan the field and let those
- 21:38Speaker 1: routes develop, then I think that can help your secondary
- 21:42Speaker 1: so much. And that's the same formula we're looking for
- 21:46Speaker 1: here in Detroit while our secondary tries to mend itself.
- 21:50Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a good point.
- 21:51Speaker 5: And we definitely want to talk more about how Bryce
- 21:55Speaker 5: might be able to take advantage of your secondary. That's
- 21:57Speaker 5: a happier conversation for us. But I want to ask
- 22:00Speaker 5: you about your O-line, Lomas. You are playing a rookie
- 22:03Speaker 5: that we know in the Carolinas from Clemson and Blake Miller.
- 22:07Speaker 5: It seems like he's been pretty good. Sewell's on the
- 22:10Speaker 5: other side. Like, how has your pass protection been, you know,
- 22:14Speaker 5: and can Carolina get pressure on golf?
- 22:15Speaker 3: What do you think?
- 22:16Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, the big fella has some glorious hair,
- 22:21Speaker 1: as you can see from the commercial that he's in
- 22:25Speaker 1: with Jarrett. So he has a very, very lovely-looking lock
- 22:30Speaker 1: of hair. But he has been fantastic, man. I've been
- 22:35Speaker 1: watching Blake since training camp. because of the nature of
- 22:38Speaker 1: the position. And I tell you what, man, been impressed
- 22:42Speaker 1: since day one with some of the little things that
- 22:45Speaker 1: he was able to do. Great pass sets, hands in
- 22:49Speaker 1: the ready position, keeping his shoulders parallel to the offensive line.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Just little things like that that you're watching rookies do
- 23:00Speaker 1: They normally struggle with that. And he came in because
- 23:03Speaker 1: of all the college experience he had. He's just stepped
- 23:07Speaker 1: right in there. So he's part of that line. He's
- 23:11Speaker 1: a part of what makes our offensive line go. He's
- 23:14Speaker 1: been very, very valuable for us this year so far.
- 23:19Speaker 1: So I'm definitely looking forward to him coming. playing on Sunday.
- 23:23Speaker 1: He's been very good for us this year so far.
- 23:26Speaker 6: I was actually just texting with former NFL defensive lineman
- 23:29Speaker 6: and coach, Brenton Buckner, about this during the commercial break there.
- 23:34Speaker 6: The Panthers had a ton of problems week one with
- 23:37Speaker 6: the Ben Johnson offense, 59 points given up.
- 23:40Speaker 3: How much of the DNA of.
- 23:44Speaker 6: Ben Johnson's offense is still paramount with the Lions offense?
- 23:49Speaker 1: That's a great question because it's still something. You can
- 23:52Speaker 1: see some of the residue, and it's good residue, of
- 23:56Speaker 1: Ben Johnson left on this offense. Of course, Drew Petzin,
- 24:00Speaker 1: our new offensive coordinator, is putting his stamp on this team.
- 24:06Speaker 1: But it's things that you see every now and then,
- 24:09Speaker 1: or more so than every now and then. It's a
- 24:11Speaker 1: lot of things that you see that Ben Johnson instilled
- 24:14Speaker 1: in this offense that we're still using, especially with Jameer
- 24:19Speaker 1: Gibbs right now, who's become pretty much... I would say,
- 24:24Speaker 1: I hate to say a poor man's version of Barry
- 24:26Speaker 1: because all the money Jameer just got, but another version,
- 24:30Speaker 1: a very rich version of Barry Sanders, how we're using
- 24:35Speaker 1: this guy, especially coming out the backfield, catching the ball,
- 24:39Speaker 1: some of the moves he can make in the run game.
- 24:42Speaker 1: We're coming back with some of our trickeration, some of
- 24:45Speaker 1: our trick plays. We're starting to incorporate those more into
- 24:48Speaker 1: our offense. And, you know, that was a big staple
- 24:52Speaker 1: of Ben Johnson when he was here. So you can
- 24:55Speaker 1: see some of it there. But Drew Petsine is more
- 24:59Speaker 1: and more putting his fingerprint on this offense each and
- 25:02Speaker 1: every week.
- 25:03Speaker 5: We're talking with Lomas Brown, former O-lineman in the NFL,
- 25:07Speaker 5: Detroit Lions. radio analyst. I just want to say something.
- 25:10Speaker 5: Six time all pro Lomas Brown.
- 25:12Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 25:12Speaker 5: I got to, I'm underselling. I'm underselling baby. All right, Lomas,
- 25:17Speaker 5: let's go to y'all's defense. Cause I do feel like
- 25:20Speaker 5: maybe that's where maybe the hope lies for us to
- 25:22Speaker 5: take advantage of all those secondary injuries. Y'all been giving
- 25:27Speaker 5: up a ton of pass yards.
- 25:28Speaker 3: There's no secret why, but to.
- 25:31Speaker 5: Your point earlier in the interview, a pass rush can
- 25:34Speaker 5: negate that the Panthers are banged up on the O-line
- 25:36Speaker 5: and How has that dynamic worked?
- 25:38Speaker 3: I know Aiden Hutchinson's been good. How has it worked?
- 25:41Speaker 5: Because even though y'all have had some good pass rush,
- 25:45Speaker 5: you still have been vulnerable at the back end.
- 25:47Speaker 3: How has that played out this year?
- 25:49Speaker 1: You're so right about that. And the thing about it is,
- 25:53Speaker 1: so this is kind of what I expect you guys
- 25:56Speaker 1: to do. I expect you guys to slide the line.
- 25:59Speaker 1: I expect you guys to chip in. I expect you
- 26:02Speaker 1: guys to put the tight end over to Aiden Hutchinson's
- 26:06Speaker 1: side so you can get maybe one or two guys
- 26:09Speaker 1: on him. But what that means is the other guys
- 26:13Speaker 1: on that defensive line, they have one-on-one matchups. And that's
- 26:22Speaker 1: when you have to win your one-on-one matchups. When you
- 26:26Speaker 1: got a dominant guy that you're going to pay a
- 26:28Speaker 1: lot of attention to, like Aiden Hutchinson, then those other
- 26:31Speaker 1: guys that got one-on-one blocks, they have to be able
- 26:35Speaker 1: to defeat those one-on-one blocks. And it's the same with us.
- 26:39Speaker 1: On our defensive side, trying to attack you guys, that
- 26:43Speaker 1: side has to be. Again, one-on-one matchups, those guys have
- 26:52Speaker 1: to win those one-on-one matchups. That's kind of how we
- 26:55Speaker 1: did it last game when you see DJ Wanham get
- 26:58Speaker 1: two sacks. You've seen Aline McNeil get a sack. You know,
- 27:02Speaker 1: that's what has to happen to affect these great offenses
- 27:07Speaker 1: because if these quarterbacks... if they have time to sit
- 27:10Speaker 1: back and scan the field, or if pre-snap they can
- 27:14Speaker 1: see where you're bringing the pressure from or bringing the
- 27:17Speaker 1: blitz from, they have blitz beaters. These quarterbacks are too
- 27:22Speaker 1: good in this league to show them what you're going
- 27:25Speaker 1: to do. So that's part of it is disguising it,
- 27:29Speaker 1: but yet still winning those one-on-one matchups when you have them.
- 27:34Speaker 6: Lomas, you spent a decade, 85 to 95, as a Lion.
- 27:38Speaker 6: So that means from 89 to 95, you were blocking
- 27:43Speaker 6: for Barry Sanders. I sometimes go on YouTube and just
- 27:46Speaker 6: watch the 45-minute highlight videos of his best moments. Do
- 27:51Speaker 6: you have a favorite run? I love the one. Was
- 27:54Speaker 6: it against the– there's one against the Patriots, right, when
- 27:58Speaker 6: he turns the DB sideways and the guy gets confused?
- 28:00Speaker 1: Yes. Yes, yes. Look, there's so many. It's that one
- 28:05Speaker 1: against the Patriots. You can think about the one against
- 28:07Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears where everybody had them pinned in and
- 28:11Speaker 1: he hurdled the guy and took it to the end zone.
- 28:14Speaker 1: You can talk about the one versus Buffalo. It was
- 28:17Speaker 1: only a two-yard touchdown, but that's the one where he
- 28:20Speaker 1: put his hand on the ground and pirouetted. all the
- 28:23Speaker 1: way back around to get in the end zone. Or
- 28:26Speaker 1: you can talk about the one against the Dallas Cowboys
- 28:29Speaker 1: when we were in the playoff game, when he bounced
- 28:32Speaker 1: and Tony Casillas was just standing there and Barry was
- 28:35Speaker 1: running behind him running. It's just so many, I tell
- 28:39Speaker 1: you this, I'll say this real fast for me, every Monday,
- 28:43Speaker 1: every Monday we went and watched film myself and Kevin
- 28:47Speaker 1: Glover and It would be five plays. Every Monday you
- 28:50Speaker 1: would say, oh, my God, how did he get out
- 28:54Speaker 1: of that? It may be a one-yard gain. It may
- 28:57Speaker 1: be a two-yard loss. But it's going to be the
- 29:00Speaker 1: best one-yard or two-yard loss you've ever seen in your life. Yes, sir.
- 29:04Speaker 3: I still think he's the greatest, man. I still do.
- 29:07Speaker 3: I'm with you. To this minute.
- 29:10Speaker 5: All right, last question about the current Lions, I would ask.
- 29:13Speaker 5: And Bone kind of went there with his question about
- 29:16Speaker 5: remnants of Ben Johnson's offense. But I think there is
- 29:19Speaker 5: a feeling in the football world that, hey, they're just
- 29:23Speaker 5: not the same team as they were when Ben Johnson
- 29:26Speaker 5: was calling the plays today. And on the other side,
- 29:29Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn was a defensive coordinator. Do you push back
- 29:32Speaker 5: on that, or do you feel like, yeah, that you know,
- 29:35Speaker 5: that has, that.
- 29:36Speaker 3: Has hurt us a fair amount. What do you think?
- 29:38Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think anytime you lose coordinators that
- 29:43Speaker 1: become head coaches, that tell you one, how great they
- 29:47Speaker 1: were because they're head coaches now. So anytime you lose
- 29:51Speaker 1: coordinators like that, yes, it is going to be a
- 29:54Speaker 1: setback for this team. And not just coordinators. Don't forget,
- 29:58Speaker 1: we lost players, too. When you talk about Kalief Raymond
- 30:02Speaker 1: and some of the other players that we lost. All
- 30:05Speaker 1: for the offense and the defensive side of the ball,
- 30:07Speaker 1: either due to free agency or injury. So, yes, it's
- 30:11Speaker 1: going to hurt. But I think now, I think we're
- 30:14Speaker 1: starting to get our footing and our identity. We're starting
- 30:18Speaker 1: to claim that. Look, this is a new NFL. Now
- 30:22Speaker 1: it takes time. takes you to week three or four
- 30:25Speaker 1: in the regular season to find out what type of
- 30:27Speaker 1: team you have, because you don't play the preseason. Oh
- 30:31Speaker 1: my goodness. These first games of the season, the light
- 30:34Speaker 1: preseason games for teams. So you don't really know what
- 30:37Speaker 1: you have. I think now you could start saying, okay,
- 30:41Speaker 1: this is the identity of our team. This is how
- 30:44Speaker 1: our team is going to look. And this is how
- 30:47Speaker 1: our team is going to win. If we win games.
- 30:50Speaker 3: All right, let me do this.
- 30:51Speaker 2: Right.
- 30:51Speaker 5: Lomas Brown is is a Super Bowl champion, and he
- 30:55Speaker 5: is a six-time All-Pro, and he's pretty darn good at
- 30:59Speaker 5: doing the talking about football thing, too. Lomas, thank you
- 31:02Speaker 5: for coming on, man. Enjoy Charlotte this week. Unfortunately, it'll
- 31:06Speaker 5: be raining like crazy, it sounds like, but hey, we appreciate.
- 31:09Speaker 2: You, man. Be good.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate you guys having me. Thanks.
- 31:13Speaker 3: All right, Lomas.
- 31:14Speaker 5: There you go, Lomas Brown. Always a pleasure to talk
- 31:17Speaker 5: to you.
- 31:17Speaker 3: I can't take it.
- 31:18Speaker 6: He said great question to me on that about Ben Johnson.
- 31:23Speaker 6: That was me crafting a buck comment into a question.
- 31:26Speaker 3: I know.
- 31:27Speaker 6: I did say Buckner's name, but that was Buckner. I
- 31:30Speaker 6: would love to say, but that was me crafting what
- 31:32Speaker 6: he said into a question. I thought it was appropriate.
- 31:35Speaker 3: To ask him that. That's good integrity by you.
- 31:36Speaker 5: Fitty would have just stolen his own point, as we
- 31:39Speaker 5: found out earlier on the show.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Buck's also got some points on blitzing Jared Goff. I
- 31:42Speaker 3: want that at some point. Yeah, that's the thing. I'd
- 31:45Speaker 3: love to see those. I just have a question for Buck.
- 31:48Speaker 5: Buck, why does Boehm get text to cheat sheet to
- 31:51Speaker 5: ask a good question?
- 31:53Speaker 6: I could use a good question, too. Because I wasn't
- 31:55Speaker 6: going to take the credit. You would have just crafted
- 31:57Speaker 6: that into your own. Buck also said, which is Gretchen Buckner,
- 32:01Speaker 6: golf beats pressure with his play recognition and release time.
- 32:04Speaker 6: Detroit believes in getting the ball to their playmakers' hands
- 32:07Speaker 6: very quickly lets them get to work. that usually negates
- 32:11Speaker 6: the blitzing because of the... So he's countering Fitty's blitz.
- 32:15Speaker 6: That's a damn good point. Pre-snap, he knows. That's what
- 32:17Speaker 6: I was saying about Gibbs. You better be careful that
- 32:19Speaker 6: he doesn't leak out all of a sudden. That's good
- 32:23Speaker 6: stuff from Buck slash Bone, man. That's good stuff over there, baby.
- 32:27Speaker 6: Put me on the Butt Naked Truth Podcast, baby.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Let's get naked, Buck. All right, let's bring it. Speaking
- 32:34Speaker 3: of getting naked. All right, go ahead. Oh, also need
- 32:36Speaker 3: to mention real quick. Oh, yeah, we got to go
- 32:37Speaker 3: to Fitty real quick.
- 32:39Speaker 5: You could tell it's football season when every person that
- 32:41Speaker 5: speaks on the air gets backlash. People were mad at
- 32:45Speaker 5: Lomas Brown. Miss Sweet Cheek says he is giving the
- 32:48Speaker 5: Panthers bless your hearts, but you have no chance energy.
- 32:52Speaker 5: Multiple Texter says, is Lomas seriously trying to act like
- 32:56Speaker 5: their injury situations as bad as ours? Yeah, it's bad,
- 33:00Speaker 5: especially in the secondary. But I feel like, Bo, we
- 33:03Speaker 5: bruised all over, dude. We like me after exercise. We
- 33:07Speaker 5: are bruised all the hell over. All right, let's go
- 33:11Speaker 5: to Fit Dog. Fit Dog, what do you have.
- 33:12Speaker 3: Over there with a flash?
- 33:13Speaker 6: Give us your news and not something you saw on
- 33:15Speaker 6: television or the text box. You're going to read a
- 33:16Speaker 6: text or a flash.
- 33:18Speaker 3: Educate us, Finny. Educate us.
- 33:20Speaker 2: It's a horror movie.
- 33:21Speaker 3: It's a horror movie.
- 33:32Speaker 7: I've got something better than news from me. I've got
- 33:36Speaker 7: information on how to win a family four-pack of tickets
- 33:40Speaker 7: to next weekend's race, the Bank of America 400 at
- 33:44Speaker 7: Charlotte Motor Speedway. Just text the keyword TIRE, T-I-R-E, to 704-570-9610.
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- 34:01Speaker 7: TIRE to the text line, and you'll be entered your
- 34:04Speaker 7: chance to win a family four-pack of tickets to next
- 34:07Speaker 7: week's Bank of America 400, the first MAAC Charlotte race ever.
- 34:12Speaker 3: In the fall. I'm also here. On the oval. I
- 34:15Speaker 3: love it. I'm so glad they're back to the oval fit.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Me too.
- 34:17Speaker 5: So glad they're back to the oval, man. That's much needed.
- 34:21Speaker 5: And I think it could be a great race, man.
- 34:23Speaker 3: I really do. Hope it's better than that Kansas race.
- 34:28Speaker 3: As long as Kyle Larson wins, I'll enjoy the race again.
- 34:30Speaker 3: The rest of y'all might not.
- 34:32Speaker 6: Can I give you guys some news here that will
- 34:35Speaker 6: make your hearts happy?
- 34:36Speaker 3: What, a buck text again? No, no, no, no. It's
- 34:38Speaker 3: private between us.
- 34:40Speaker 6: Brad McGriffey tweeted out that today starts a streak of
- 34:43Speaker 6: 61 straight days or nights, I should say, nights and days,
- 34:47Speaker 6: days and nights, where college or NFL is on.
- 34:51Speaker 3: We have 61 days in a row. Oh, football. That
- 34:58Speaker 3: feels good, baby. It's so good.
- 35:01Speaker 1: 61.
- 35:01Speaker 6: Matt, that also includes Panther games. Some of our college
- 35:05Speaker 6: football teams are in there, too. But guess what?
- 35:07Speaker 3: We get to watch other teams, too.
- 35:10Speaker 6: All right. Thank you, Fit Dog. I thought that went well.
- 35:13Speaker 6: When we come back, we are going to Granny's house. Steve,
- 35:17Speaker 6: he doesn't want to be called Panther Weenie, does he? No,
- 35:19Speaker 6: he is really protesting. Steven Panther Whitaker and Grandma Patrice, a.k.a.
- 35:24Speaker 6: Granny Pat, will be in Granny's house today. The Panther Roundtable,
- 35:28Speaker 6: that is next. We have no idea what you're about
- 35:32Speaker 6: to hear. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
- 35:46Speaker 3: All right, baby.
- 35:48Speaker 5: The setting is Granny's house. What's in Granny's house today?
- 35:54Speaker 5: It is the Panther Fan Roundtable. You know Granny Pat
- 35:59Speaker 5: is in the house. You know she is the star,
- 36:02Speaker 5: the franchise player of the Fan Roundtable. She will be
- 36:05Speaker 5: joined today by Panther. Don't call me Panther Weenie. Panther Steve.
- 36:11Speaker 5: I don't know if I got that all. It seems
- 36:12Speaker 5: very convoluted. I've got to shorten that down. Steven Whitaker.
- 36:15Speaker 3: Steven P. Whitaker.
- 36:16Speaker 5: Steven Whitaker in the house. Let's start with Granny. Welcome
- 36:21Speaker 5: her to the show. Granny, thank you for coming back
- 36:23Speaker 5: on the Roundtable. Granny, you are the star of the
- 36:27Speaker 5: Roundtable each week.
- 36:28Speaker 3: How you been?
- 36:29Speaker 9: Well, I just love the name Steven Wiener. I like that.
- 36:34Speaker 3: No, that's not. That's not. Stephen Whitaker. That's not. His name.
- 36:39Speaker 3: His name.
- 36:40Speaker 6: His name is Stephen. His name is Steven Whitaker. He
- 36:47Speaker 6: doesn't want to be called Panther Weenie.
- 36:49Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Okay, all right. Although you may have just given him
- 36:53Speaker 3: a new name. Oh, my God.
- 36:54Speaker 6: All right, let's bring in the man whose name is
- 36:58Speaker 6: Steven Whitaker.
- 36:59Speaker 5: Let me get that right. Steven Whitaker, Panther Steve. Panther Steve,
- 37:02Speaker 5: what's going on, baby?
- 37:04Speaker 2: Hey, Mac, what's happening?
- 37:06Speaker 3: Let's do it. Hey, what's going on? Let's do it, Steve.
- 37:08Speaker 6: Stevie, we noticed that we really should stop calling you
- 37:12Speaker 6: Panther Weenie.
- 37:13Speaker 5: We realize you have reached out to our boss, Colin Hoggard.
- 37:17Speaker 5: Who else did he reach out to, Bo?
- 37:18Speaker 3: Nick Carboni. Tell them it's just Nick Carboni.
- 37:21Speaker 5: Nick Carboni, you wanted people to make us stop calling
- 37:25Speaker 5: you Panther Weenie.
- 37:27Speaker 3: So I think we must oblige at this point.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Well, thanks. I appreciate it.
- 37:32Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
- 37:33Speaker 2: I want to ask Granny Pat, does she like big
- 37:35Speaker 2: wieners or a little wiener?
- 37:37Speaker 3: Oh, Stevie! Stevie, I'm not even sure.
- 37:40Speaker 6: Nope, nope, nope, nope. I think we just hit the
- 37:41Speaker 6: dump button. Hit that Granny's theme again there. I think
- 37:46Speaker 6: we just hit the dump button on Steve.
- 37:48Speaker 1: Is he gone?
- 37:49Speaker 3: Steve, you still there or no?
- 37:51Speaker 1: Did you hit the dump button?
- 37:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
- 37:53Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, you got dumped.
- 37:53Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't, you can't. I'm pretty sure. You can't
- 37:56Speaker 5: do that. One more out of you and we're going
- 37:58Speaker 5: to have to kick you. We're going to have to
- 37:59Speaker 5: boot you out. Can we go back to Granny and
- 38:01Speaker 5: let him reset himself there? Let's go back to Granny.
- 38:02Speaker 5: We need to talk to Granny about something disturbing. That
- 38:06Speaker 5: is the message that she sent me on Sunday, blaming
- 38:09Speaker 5: Bryce Young for what was going.
- 38:11Speaker 3: On in Cleveland. Granny, you're back to not liking Bryce again?
- 38:18Speaker 9: Y'all are taking this the wrong way. You don't see
- 38:20Speaker 9: the truth. And the truth is the whole team stumped
- 38:26Speaker 9: in various parts. Coaches were calling stupid-ass plays. Canal sits
- 38:34Speaker 9: over there and looks like a little fairy.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 38:39Speaker 5: Is this two dumps? Have we had to dump each
- 38:43Speaker 5: member of the round table?
- 38:44Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Here's the problem. It takes six minutes to build back up.
- 38:47Speaker 3: So we've lost both. All right. They're going to have
- 38:49Speaker 3: to be on their best behavior here. This isn't moving forward.
- 38:51Speaker 3: This is not.
- 38:53Speaker 6: This never happens with Leatherman Mark. Granny, tell us your
- 38:57Speaker 6: Freedom Park story.
- 39:00Speaker 9: I want to do chapter three of Freedom Park. You
- 39:03Speaker 9: know I was caught making out in the car. The
- 39:07Speaker 9: police got each one of us, took our name and everything,
- 39:12Speaker 9: scared to death, going to tell our parents. Next day,
- 39:15Speaker 9: the cop called me to go out.
- 39:18Speaker 3: Oh, shoot. Oh, my God.
- 39:20Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 39:20Speaker 3: What is chapter four going to be? Cliffhanger, Granny. We've
- 39:23Speaker 3: got to leave the cliffhanger for chapter four. Oh, my God.
- 39:26Speaker 3: How old were you during this Freedom Park?
- 39:28Speaker 9: Like, 27. 20.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Okay. I bet you were frisky.
- 39:32Speaker 6: Granny.
- 39:32Speaker 5: You were frisky and wild when you were 20, weren't.
- 39:34Speaker 1: You, Granny? Oh, Bobby.
- 39:35Speaker 9: They called me just because I was making out.
- 39:38Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
- 39:38Speaker 6: I don't like the sounds of this, but I can't
- 39:40Speaker 6: wait for the next episode, Granny.
- 39:42Speaker 3: I can't wait.
- 39:43Speaker 6: Speaking of frisky and wild, we go back to Panther
- 39:45Speaker 6: Steve now.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Have you settled yourself down now, please? Panther Steve, you
- 39:48Speaker 3: ready to behave? Respect Granny. She's a respectable woman. Panther Steve.
- 39:54Speaker 1: I agree.
- 39:54Speaker 6: Go ahead.
- 39:55Speaker 2: I agree with Granny Pat. Ken Alice just stands over
- 39:58Speaker 2: there and does nothing hardly. She's just getting mad a
- 40:01Speaker 2: little bit.
- 40:02Speaker 1: I mean, really.
- 40:03Speaker 3: Who do.
- 40:05Speaker 5: You blame Sunday's ugly offense for, Steve?
- 40:11Speaker 2: Okay, third and one, fourth and one, we throw the
- 40:14Speaker 2: ball long. And then when it's third and long, we
- 40:17Speaker 2: throw the ball short. I can't figure it out.
- 40:22Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're putting it on Idzik as a play caller.
- 40:25Speaker 5: You're putting it on Canales, too, I guess.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Well, that and Bryce. I mean, come on, we just
- 40:30Speaker 2: needed one damn yard.
- 40:32Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Let's go.
- 40:34Speaker 5: Well, hey, let's bring in Granny on that. Granny, what
- 40:36Speaker 5: did you think about going for it on fourth down?
- 40:40Speaker 5: And as Steve said, you run two pass plays on
- 40:42Speaker 5: fourth down when you don't have pass protection, and he
- 40:45Speaker 5: gets sacked on one bone, and he gets pressured into
- 40:48Speaker 5: incompletion on the other. Did you like Canales going for
- 40:51Speaker 5: it on fourth down twice?
- 40:52Speaker 9: It was so damn dumb and stupid. And I honestly
- 40:59Speaker 9: think he, I just don't know if these coaches are
- 41:03Speaker 9: good enough. And as far as Bryce, you know, he
- 41:07Speaker 9: is not getting, there were four or five passes over
- 41:10Speaker 9: people's heads. He can't look over the line and see
- 41:16Speaker 9: where to throw him. It's nothing new.
- 41:18Speaker 5: Granny, he's getting hit and pressured all the time. He's
- 41:21Speaker 5: running for his life back there the other day. And
- 41:23Speaker 5: he still leads the league in passing yards, Granny.
- 41:27Speaker 9: Well, let's get a bigger one.
- 41:30Speaker 3: A bigger what?
- 41:32Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, Granny!
- 41:35Speaker 1: No!
- 41:35Speaker 3: No, we can't say that! What is going on? Has
- 41:45Speaker 3: Grady been drinking that moonshine this morning, Bone?
- 41:47Speaker 9: Not yet.
- 41:49Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Let's go back to Steve. Let's go back
- 41:52Speaker 3: to the cleaner comment.
- 41:53Speaker 5: Basically, every time we have to use the dump button,
- 41:55Speaker 5: we try the other one, and they make us use
- 41:57Speaker 5: the dump button again. Steve, do you have a– I
- 42:00Speaker 5: think this could be clean. Do you have a reason
- 42:04Speaker 5: of why there's so many injuries?
- 42:08Speaker 2: Yeah, probably because they don't do anything in preseason.
- 42:11Speaker 1: They hardly play.
- 42:12Speaker 2: They don't practice hardly. I practiced harder in high school.
- 42:16Speaker 1: I mean, we had two days.
- 42:18Speaker 2: We sweated. We barely could get water. These guys, it's
- 42:21Speaker 2: just ridiculous. You know, they got to play more, practice harder.
- 42:25Speaker 5: I need to know, Panther Steve, about your high school career.
- 42:28Speaker 5: Was it here locally?
- 42:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know.
- 42:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 42:33Speaker 3: What position did you play? In what school?
- 42:35Speaker 2: Well, I played end.
- 42:37Speaker 1: And I played for Catholic.
- 42:41Speaker 3: And to the bench. Oh, my God.
- 42:45Speaker 1: I didn't know.
- 42:46Speaker 3: I'm asking questions.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I was pretty much a bench warmer.
- 42:49Speaker 5: All right, we don't want to upset you about it.
- 42:52Speaker 5: We don't need to relive those moments, all right?
- 42:53Speaker 6: You don't sound too excited about your past career.
- 42:58Speaker 5: Steve, we have a text that says, man, these two
- 43:01Speaker 5: are downright angry, no positivity. Do you still feel like
- 43:06Speaker 5: the Panthers can defend your division title, or do you
- 43:09Speaker 5: feel like the injuries are.
- 43:10Speaker 3: Just too much?
- 43:13Speaker 2: Well, we backed into that division title, so I wouldn't
- 43:15Speaker 2: even call that a division title, Mike. I mean, we
- 43:18Speaker 2: backed into it. Yeah, we won it, but we backed
- 43:20Speaker 2: into it. We didn't actually go out there and win it.
- 43:23Speaker 3: But did you see the six years previous?
- 43:25Speaker 5: Like, I'll take that any day over the previous six,
- 43:27Speaker 5: seven years.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Hey, I just want to win a Super Bowl before
- 43:31Speaker 2: I die, okay? That's just what I want. I want
- 43:33Speaker 2: a Super Bowl win.
- 43:34Speaker 3: I'm with you on that.
- 43:36Speaker 2: I'm not greedy like Steeler fans or Patriot fans. I
- 43:40Speaker 2: just want one.
- 43:42Speaker 5: I'm with you, brother. I'm with you on that. All right,
- 43:43Speaker 5: let's go to Granny. Didn't she win them as a
- 43:45Speaker 5: Washington fan?
- 43:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.
- 43:50Speaker 3: Oh, my God, the truth comes out.
- 43:53Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, you won for the Panther before
- 43:56Speaker 6: you die, so I get it.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what he said.
- 44:00Speaker 2: That wasn't my hometown team. That wasn't my hometown team.
- 44:02Speaker 6: That wasn't a not, but you did win them as
- 44:04Speaker 6: a Washington fan.
- 44:05Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. Well, I won, too, as a
- 44:07Speaker 5: Ravens fan. I know what he's saying, though. You know,
- 44:09Speaker 5: now that I'm a full-blown Panther fan. I won the
- 44:11Speaker 5: AFC East as a Jets fan once.
- 44:12Speaker 3: The AFC East.
- 44:13Speaker 5: All right, let's bring in Granny. Granny going to get
- 44:15Speaker 5: the final word on this one right now.
- 44:18Speaker 6: Granny Pat, do you think we.
- 44:20Speaker 3: Could– what's up?
- 44:22Speaker 9: I want to just tell– Stephen, I played basketball at
- 44:24Speaker 9: Charlotte Catholic.
- 44:25Speaker 3: Oh, y'all might have gone to school together, Granny.
- 44:28Speaker 1: I doubt it.
- 44:29Speaker 9: It could be my grandbaby, I think.
- 44:32Speaker 3: Granny, were you good, Granny?
- 44:35Speaker 9: I was damn good, I'll tell you that. I was
- 44:37Speaker 9: a guard like then. We had three on each side.
- 44:40Speaker 5: Yeah, you told us about that. I didn't even know
- 44:42Speaker 5: that was a thing. I had to look that up
- 44:44Speaker 5: on Google. That was a thing way back in the day.
- 44:48Speaker 5: What kind of guard were you?
- 44:49Speaker 3: Were you a shooter? Were you a passer? Were you
- 44:52Speaker 3: a driver? What kind of guard?
- 44:53Speaker 9: I was a knocker down and get the ball, throw
- 44:56Speaker 9: it back to the forward. I knocked people down.
- 45:00Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
- 45:01Speaker 1: All right, so, Grant.
- 45:02Speaker 9: All right, one thing.
- 45:03Speaker 1: I went.
- 45:04Speaker 9: For 20 years to the Panther games, rain or shine,
- 45:10Speaker 9: I want these people to go because the little rain
- 45:14Speaker 9: didn't go hurt you. Think of the damn Yankees go
- 45:17Speaker 9: up there in freezing weather. We got to show up Sunday.
- 45:21Speaker 3: I like it, Granny. I like it.
- 45:22Speaker 5: Let's end it on that inspirational message. Granny, you got
- 45:26Speaker 5: a little out of control and unruly. We had to
- 45:28Speaker 5: use the dump button, but you were awesome as always, Granny.
- 45:31Speaker 5: Enjoy the game this week. Um, and, uh, Panther Steve,
- 45:35Speaker 5: we appreciate you too, brother. Um, that is a record bone,
- 45:39Speaker 5: three dump buttons in one fan round table. I don't
- 45:42Speaker 5: even think, have we ever had to use one?
- 45:43Speaker 6: I gotta tell you right now, the future of the
- 45:46Speaker 6: round table is very much in doubt. Granny's house just
- 45:49Speaker 6: burned down. It was a great tennis match of dump
- 45:54Speaker 6: button use.
- 45:55Speaker 5: There's a fine line there because it was extremely amusing
- 45:58Speaker 5: and entertaining. But the FCC couldn't hit us with fines, Bo,
- 46:02Speaker 5: that the station asked you and I to personally pay.
- 46:04Speaker 5: So there's a fine line here, I feel like. City
- 46:06Speaker 5: got them all, right?
- 46:07Speaker 3: Are we good? Yeah, we got them all dumped. All right.
- 46:11Speaker 3: We're good. We come back.
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- 46:16Speaker 3: We are here.