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Naked on the Beach: Commodore Flip Phone, Elder Scrolls 6 & Xbox Layoffs · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  Multiple nerdgasm.
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  >> Hi. >> Hello. So, just before we started, I haven't
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  told Alyssa yet, I challenge you to see if you can work out what I'm doing this episode.
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  >> Okay. Yeah, I don't know what that means. Um >> no hints, no nothing.
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  >> Yeah. He's literally just told me again the same thing he told me before. So,
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  let's see if I can figure out what he's doing. >> Yeah. I don't know I don't know when I'm
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  going to do it. I may be doing it now. I may be doing it later. We'll find out.
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  >> You don't even know. [ __ ] hell. >> I don't even know when I'm going to do
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  it. I'm going to keep it a secret. I'm going to keep it a secret from myself.
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  >> Good lord. Is that it? Was that it? Opening it drink >> This is not a secret.
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  >> What is that? >> first one of the day. It's just a Vodka Cruiser double.
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  >> Vodka Cruiser double. It's just a just a double. >> Just a double.
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  >> It's your first of the day. >> My first of the day, yes. I decided to
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  do a little bit different to last week's episode. >> [laughter]
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  >> Oh, last week's episode I thought it was pretty good. So, I I mean
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  >> But yeah, when you drink >> Not not I'm encouraging you to get
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  [ __ ] plastered beforehand, but >> But though, when you're drinking it can
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  go it can go one of two ways. It could be really good or >> Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  There is an episode out there somewhere that I'm not sure I think
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  I don't know if it's on there, but there was an episode where I drank a bottle of port.
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  I don't know if you remember this. >> [laughter] >> [ __ ] Yeah.
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  >> You got I I was like >> The next day I was like, "I'm [ __ ] I'm sorry, guys."
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  >> [laughter] [gasps] >> We've all had those episodes. Me probably more than others.
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  That's why [laughter] you've got to find that right level. And sometimes that's hard.
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  >> Yeah. >> Especially start drinking early. >> Yeah.
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  Yeah. You watched a lot of movies last week. Did you watch any movies at the
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  movies this week? >> I've watched no movies at the movies this week.
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  >> All right, taking a week off. >> Zero. Taking a week off. But next week I will.
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  >> I also have not seen a movie at the movies. I've been told that I should see
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  [ __ ] What have I got What was I told to see? I was told to see everything, but
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  Oh, it's a Disclosure Day. Nate told me, "Yes, go see Disclosure Day."
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  I hadn't heard your review yet. >> [laughter] >> I told him
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  I think Oh, I think I said Yeah, you also said I should.
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  Even though you didn't particularly give a [ __ ] about it.
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  >> No, I'm never going to watch it again, but >> Yeah. So, I want to do that. Uh
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  I've been playing a video game this week, though. >> I I saw this.
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  What made you go into this? Cuz I've never played this game. I've seen
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  YouTubers play it and I find it quite amusing the way they play.
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  >> Yeah, I watch a lot of people play Rust. I don't know why. It's I watch Willjum
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  in particular. I just every Willjum video I watch and I find it very interesting.
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  Uh >> Rust they go on wipe day and start with nothing and >> Yep.
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  >> play. >> Uh and then they play solo, too. Like Willjum plays solo and I learned in
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  Tokyo and a couple others that I that I follow. They play solo, which is quite
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  difficult in Rust. Rust Those who don't know, Rust is like it's online only. >> Yes.
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  >> like you you start the game literally naked on the beach with a rock. All
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  you've got is a rock and a torch. And you have to collect resources and
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  learn how to make things and eventually everybody has guns and
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  helicopters and stuff, but you have to build them. All that.
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  >> You got to build up to that and build up to like the furnace and then the
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  different resources >> metal and all this kind of stuff. >> Yep.
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  >> And then you're on a big island. And then basically the premise is that
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  on everything is just trying to kill you. And you just have to survive and
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  the wipe Wipe means how long it is before the server gets a completely
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  reset. Everything is temporary, right? It's basically like like a a
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  month-long game of paintball. If it's a month some are 7 days
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  some are whatever. It's whatever the server is. After a certain period of time that's it.
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  >> Yep, and you start again. >> Yep, and you just you just have to try
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  and survive and have fun. >> have to keep logging in because your
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  stuff will deteriorate quite quickly. >> And you'll get raided. Like if you build
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  a base, people will come and take your [ __ ] >> Cuz the servers are 24 hours. Like it's
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  not like you just I'm going to log off, go to work, come back, everything will
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  be fine. No, you can log off, go to work, come back, and everything is gone. >> Yeah.
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  So, I've seen I've watched a lot of people play this. I don't know why. It's I think it's
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  for some reason it makes for particularly compelling YouTube content.
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  I like I don't know what it is. >> But how is it actually playing it?
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  >> So, okay, I was like it's it was on it's on sale. I don't know if it's on sale.
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  It it was on sale. It's been on my wish list for ages cuz I was like it looks fun.
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  It well, watching people play is fun. I don't know if I'll have fun playing it,
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  so I don't want to pay full price for it because yeah. So, I I bought it.
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  I was like [ __ ] it. I'm going to give it a try. So, I loaded it up and I've only ever
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  watched these people. I said Wilburgur in particular plays on the big high
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  count how to play account like serious clan servers with like serious [ __ ]
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  hardcore Rust players. >> People who are going in know how to play the game.
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  >> Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, uh only ever seen it and it's brutal. Like if you see
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  somebody, you [ __ ] murder them and you steal >> Right. >> But I was
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  I'm looking at the server list and they've got softcore servers, which is
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  kind of like when you die, you don't lose all your stuff. You >> Like that.
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  >> Some of it. I don't know exactly what the >> But it's good for new players type of
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  thing. >> That's the idea. That's what I thought. I thought I was just like a little bit
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  less harsh on that kind of stuff. All right, so I joined >> Mhm.
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  >> the the number one like the the the official number one softcore Rust
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  server, right? I'm like, "Okay, great." So, >> You were instantly murdered? >> I mean, no.
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  >> [laughter] >> No. I got in the game. I'm there I'm naked
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  on the beach with a rock, right? And I'm like, "Okay, I kind of know what to do,
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  but not really because they skip over a lot of that early stuff because it's not
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  interesting." >> Yeah, so >> They like do a montage of them like
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  collecting resources and stuff. I'm like, "I don't actually know what I'm supposed to do."
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  >> and what builds what or how to build that early game stuff.
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  >> Yeah, no idea. So, I'm like, "Okay, [ __ ] I got to figure this out." So, I'm
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  running around and like hitting my rock on stuff to try and collect things. >> Yeah.
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  >> And then I see another person. And I'm like, "Okay, well, I know what to do."
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  >> [laughter] >> I run over and I start beating this person to death with a rock.
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  And I'm like [ __ ] smacking him and he he starts running away. And I'm like,
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  "Get back here, you [ __ ] So, [laughter] I beat this guy to death
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  with a rock. And I and I check his inventory. He's got a bunch of stuff,
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  like a bunch of rocks and rock and wood and all this stuff. I take it all.
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  And then I So, then I'm like running off and then I get a message
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  from this person that says, "Dude, why?" >> [laughter]
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  >> I was like, "Oh, it's supposed to be different? Like, am I not supposed to
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  >> [laughter] >> Is it softcore as in you don't attack anyone and everyone just builds and
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  >> I don't know. He was very He was He was like, "Dude, I wasn't going to [ __ ] with
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  you. Why? Why did you do that? >> [laughter] >> I was trying to get away."
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  [ __ ] So, So, I just was like, "Oh, [ __ ] hell." And then I So, I ran off and into the
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  jungle as you do. Escape the crocodile. And then
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  uh and then this I'm So, I'm collecting stuff in the jungle and I'm like, "Okay,
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  I'm trying to get the hang of this." And then some [ __ ] dude in full armor with a gun
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  jumps out and then on the like on his cuz you can hold down V to like talk in
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  game and I guess everybody does this. I didn't know this, but if you're going to
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  play, apparently you're supposed to have a mic and headset so you can do this. >> Yep.
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  >> He jumps out and he goes on the mic, he goes, "Put your [ __ ] hands up. What
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  do you [laughter] got?" So I'm like just froze. And he and he goes, "What have you got?"
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  And I said, [laughter] I'm like I'm in the game I'm just going And then
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  he goes, "Hold V. Hold V, dead." >> [laughter] >> I don't like it at the moment.
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  And um so he shot me in the head. >> Yep. >> And so you get into like when you get
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  shot you get into like wounded state where you can be healed. >> Mhm.
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  >> But when you're wounded you can be looted. And so he shot me and I guess
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  checked my inventory and felt bad so he healed me. >> [laughter]
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  >> And then he threw a cleaver on the ground and he said, "Take that." >> [laughter]
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  >> And he ran off. >> [snorts] >> And I honestly
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  I was like this is [ __ ] great. So
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  >> Oh, I love that. So your first encounter you just murdered this person for no reason.
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  >> man to death with a rock. >> Rock. >> And he [laughter] as he was screamed,
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  And then things >> Then you get shot and then that person
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  actually went, "Oh, you've got nothing. You you're not doing well.
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  Brought you back to life and here's a weapon." >> it was pretty obvious that I was a noob
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  and he was like, "Here, take a weapon and [ __ ] off." [laughter] Uh and then uh
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  I managed to build a sleeping bag uh which is where you can like respawn.
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  Cuz if you Okay, if you die, you go back to a random spot on the
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  beach at the edge and you don't really want to be there like for building a
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  base or whatever. You want to get resources and get further in.
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  And so you have to put a sleeping bag down and then you can respawn at your
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  sleeping bag. So, I managed to do that. Somebody else shot me, I died, and then
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  uh I don't know. I think I played for a couple hours, and then I was like, "Okay,
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  I'm going to just get in the hang of it. I'm not getting too attached. I haven't
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  built anything." Like, you can build a base and all that. I haven't done any of that, but
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  >> Yeah, I just think I'd get I'm frust- I don't know. I think I'd get too
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  frustrated with this game too quickly. >> that, but I think the fact that it's temporary,
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  like, I know that going in. I know what it is. I'm not like that. I've got no >> Yeah.
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  >> illusions about how good I'm going to be or anything. I was just like, "I'm just
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  going to goof around and have fun. Whatever." >> Yeah. And I can actually Now now you've
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  explained it that way, like, yeah, you can get to a point where you go, "Oh,
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  well, yeah, this this particular wipe has not gone well. I'm just going to
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  give up on it." Cuz >> Yeah, I'm just going to go grief some people or >> Yeah.
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  >> uh door camp or whatever, which is door camping is when you just wait outside
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  somebody's door, and when they open the door, you shoot them in the face, you
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  run in and steal all of their stuff. >> [laughter] >> And that's why you have to build an
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  airlock under your base. >> Yeah. >> There's a tip for you.
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  >> Yeah. Or you could just pick on a small child and beat them to death with a rock.
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  >> Beat them to [laughter] death with a rock. >> To take nothing.
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  >> So, anyway, that's Rust. >> Yeah. >> It's fun. It is
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  >> This is one of those games that sort of it's been around like forever. It's sort
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  of I think it's gotten bigger now than it did at the start. It's sort of >> Yeah.
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  >> Or it's grown and stayed with it. >> I think it was like
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  clunkier and stuff at the start. Like, now there's a there's a lot to do in it.
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  Like, they've got like um they added the you can build [ __ ] big ships now and
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  go out into the deep sea. They've added like >> Oh, oh god. Wow.
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  >> Yeah, they've added tons of stuff to it. And like
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  And it's also it's got areas of the map uh they call them monuments.
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  And there's stuff like there's a military base, uh a [ __ ] oil rig, uh an Arctic
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  station, and they're basically like um like dungeons, I guess, in a in a in a
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  MMORPG. Um where you've got like um is that the thing? You're doing the thing?
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  >> No, I wasn't doing anything. My phone just vibrated and I just put it turned
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  it off vibrate. >> Okay. Uh yeah, there's there's puzzles. You
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  got to collect like key cards to open doors and stuff like that. So, there's
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  like these little kind of puzzle puzzly things and stuff that you can do and
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  it's I don't know, it's it's good, man. It's fun. >> Not for everyone, but I think that I
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  >> I've watched so many people play it uh cuz I think it just I don't know, it
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  makes for good content because it just is so brutal. Like and it's almost like
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  it's just a survival thing. >> Yeah. And you have a you do have a wide
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  range of people still playing. You got like small children and then adults. It's
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  >> I don't know that he was a child. He may have just been a >> [laughter] >> sad man.
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  >> No, I'm going to he was like a 10-year-old beat to death with a rock and stole his
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  stuff. Speaking of the code Oh, yeah. That's what I reckon. If you'd
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  have gone and cried like that >> [laughter] >> like you can take all that back.
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  >> That was a kid. Oh, one thing that's interesting about it, I didn't know this. >> Mhm.
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  >> Um cuz I was like, how do you change what you look like? You can't. It's random.
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  >> That's yeah. >> And it's linked to your Steam account.
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  So, if you want to look different, you've got to buy the game again on a
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  different Steam account. I didn't know that. I was like cuz I looked at I'm
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  just I'm a woman and I was like, okay, how do I change my appearance? Can't. You don't.
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  >> No, that was what I remember that when it sort of first came out, it was just
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  going to be no, you get into this world completely random. That's it. Like
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  whatever you come in as, that's that's you. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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  >> I've got set I play most games as a woman, so I'd be okay with that.
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  >> Uh yeah, I wasn't I was just curious how to adjust things. I didn't even think
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  about it. You don't really see what you look like very often anyway. It's
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  everyone else's problem, but um yeah. Anyway, enough of that. That's Rust. Uh
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  if anyone wants to play Rust with me, let me know.
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  >> I probably won't. Although, how much is it on sale for? Actually, I probably own it.
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  >> You probably do, knowing you. It was 20 bucks [clears throat] here. I think it's
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  normally like 40 or 50. It was 20 bucks here. >> I need to go through my Humble Bundle
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  subscription and see what games and codes I have. I've got hundreds. >> Yeah.
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  >> Of codes, codes, let alone games. I've got 1,000 games on Steam.
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  >> Yeah. What do I got these days? I've stopped I stopped buying it for a
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  long time. I've started again, actually. I've gone I've become more of a a a
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  I guess a PC gamer again, cuz I've got GeForce Now. I haven't played my Xbox ages.
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  >> Well, even with the Steam sales, I remember I think I just got over them a little
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  bit. The Steam sales used to be great. You go and you buy all these games. And
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  then I just think it's just the same games that are on sale every time. It
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  doesn't really feel like it changes anymore now. They've got a new gimmick every time, but
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  >> I've got 641 games. >> Wow. How many have you played?
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  >> I don't know how to tell. >> I don't know if you if you can. >> Yeah.
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  Actually, [clears throat] some of these, I guess, to be fair, are not
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  different games. There's like, you know, they have like
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  the game and then they have like the the server for the game and then the the dev
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  kit and all that. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, some of them it's the same stuff, but >> Yeah.
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  >> Yeah. >> That's all right.
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  >> So, okay. We've got So, I've got quite a lot of Xbox news.
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  >> Yes, cuz we did have the State of Play No, that was the That was the
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  PlayStation one. This was the Summer Game Fest, was it? >> Yes, I think so. Yes.
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  So, do you want But, there's also a lot of other stuff. Uh
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  >> Yes. Well, there's a lot. Probably the big one probably to start with is
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  their big reset that they've got coming up, which is >> Mhm.
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  >> a bit crazy and something they also said they weren't going to do. That was
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  wasn't that part of their negotiation with buying like >> all the game companies
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  >> Like yeah, they bought Activision and everybody. Yeah, they went look but
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  we're not going to lay anyone off and all this stuff. It's And now
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  >> Well, I mean they got a new head of Xbox. Uh she's you know, she What one of
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  the things Penny Arcade did a comic about it is that it started out
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  coming out and saying a bunch of stuff that we all wanted to hear, which is
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  like it's too expensive now. We're like, "Yeah." We're We're going to make
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  another console. Yeah. Yeah. And like saying all this stuff that's
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  like like, "Yeah, we'll be listening to you guys." Everybody's like, "Yeah."
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  And then And then she's like, "Yeah, also uh you're all fired." >> Yeah.
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  >> Uh oh, okay. >> And I still say like a lot of that stuff
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  that she came out with at the start is probably stuff that they'd sat on >> Yes.
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  >> waiting for her to take over as a Look, let's make this transition nice and sort
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  of give people what they've been asking for but that's not going to work for us. Yeah.
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  >> Mhm. >> One of the things she has come out and said though is she wants Bethesda to
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  hurry up on Elder Scrolls and >> [laughter] >> and Fallout.
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  >> I'm sure I'm sure. >> [clears throat] >> And I think I think that's fair.
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  >> I mean, if they're going to do exclusives, they'd be good ones to do. >> And
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  you need to them to release if you're going to make money off them. They're
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  going to be your big things. You need them out. But like Elder Scrolls 6, what
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  When was the last time we heard about that? We heard about it
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  >> It's been [ __ ] ages. Like they showed that trailer. Uh did they show another trailer
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  recently? I don't think so. >> think they've shown another They've
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  shown that initial hype yep, it's coming. Yeah, that was
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  >> but that was like 10 years ago. I might be exaggerating slightly.
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  >> two or three more versions of Skyrim since then. >> Yeah. Um
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  they can Okay. So, the word on it is it's coming along great, but like
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  what does that mean? It's still like years away. Okay, here we go. Tentatively 2028. Uh
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  okay, sorry. Wait. In 2023, Phil Spencer said it was at least 5 years away.
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  Ten which would be tentatively 2028. So, that's still like 2 years away.
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  >> Yeah. And we're still not And it's just too long for games. I
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  don't What is taking so long? >> Yeah. There's been no Elder Scrolls game
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  [clears throat] like no proper Elder Scrolls game this generation of console. >> Yeah.
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  >> The last one was just Xbox. >> Yep. And it sounds like there isn't
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  going to be one this generation either. >> Yeah. It's going to be uh on Helix or whatever
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  it is. PlayStation 6 and Helix. Mhm. >> And the same for Fallout.
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  >> They're going to fire them all. Yeah, there's no Yeah, Fallout 4 uh
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  that's [ __ ] ages ago. >> Yeah. >> Um
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  so Yeah, so so they're doing a big reset. They're like laying off
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  uh a lot of stuff from a lot of the um studios. They're shutting down
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  Ninja Theory, which is like a a studio that they bought at some point. >> I actually
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  I quite liked the Hellblade series they were putting out. They've I think >> Yeah.
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  >> Yeah, that That was actually I enjoyed those games. >> Oh, those games? >> Yeah.
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  >> Yeah, they were cool. I played the first one. That was cool. Yeah, that sucks.
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  Uh they didn't did Ninja Theory do um What's it? Ninja Gaiden? The
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  >> They might have and that I I know Ninja Gaiden I did not play. That was That's
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  not for me. That's Yeah. Is it Ninja Gaiden I'm thinking of? Maybe not.
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  Uh I think maybe I'm thinking >> I think it's just cuz you're hearing Ninja.
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  >> Team Ninja. Yeah, no, it's definitely not them. All right, cool. Um
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  Yeah, so I don't know. It's just Uh oh, the uh the head of um Xbox Game
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  Studios has resigned. Um because
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  uh I guess because of this, I guess. Uh he was there for less than 2 years. Um
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  and I mean, it doesn't say why. Oh, hang on. Here we go.
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  >> [groaning] >> I don't know. >> [laughter]
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  >> I think he just doesn't want to have to go and fire people.
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  >> They they're implying that it was because of this, but uh it I guess it isn't
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  isn't 100% clear. >> But it's just so weird. Like you take away the Activision stuff. Like
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  they made a big point like only a few years ago of like going out and buying
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  all these studios. >> Yeah. >> And now it's now we're going to get rid of them all.
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  >> Well, I wonder if she's [snorts] coming and realized this Well, we're not making
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  any money. Like Yeah, I don't know. >> I don't know. You need to
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  They need to release games. That's the >> Yeah, you would think so.
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  Yeah. >> Actually >> Uh Compulsion Games and Double Fine are negotiating the chance to go
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  independent. >> Okay. I I mean, okay, going independent
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  I think it's a little bit different. Now's the time to sort of jump in to do that.
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  >> Yeah, don't shut them down cuz they're Well, they're going to shut them down if
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  they if they don't do that, I guess. >> Mhm. >> Uh >> But I've always felt felt that quite
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  hard to understand how that works. Like we own you,
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  but we will let you take over and still continue as a company. Where's that
• 21:02
  money transfer happen there? Like I've never understood that.
• 21:04
  >> Well, they're going to shut them down anyway. It's like you might as well.
• 21:08
  >> Yeah, but they they >> Like why not let them all do that?
• 21:11
  >> Why are they shutting him down? Well, cuz they want to hold on to their
• 21:15
  IPs all of the time. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. And maybe some of the stuff. >> Yeah.
• 21:20
  >> Yeah. Okay, that's fair. They don't want uh [ __ ] what's his name? Double Fine. I
• 21:26
  can't remember his name. >> Schafer. >> Schafer, Tim Schafer. Yeah. Uh
• 21:32
  >> He'll find a job somewhere. Yeah. Hopefully he's just running Double Fine as he is.
• 21:37
  >> He'll create one for himself. He's like, yeah, he's fine. He'll be fine. Um
• 21:42
  Yeah, so I don't know. This is all mixed bag really, I guess now for Xbox.
• 21:47
  Like the the big picture stuff for us has been good, but yeah, this this stuff's not good.
• 21:53
  >> No, but yeah, just
• 21:58
  I do hurry. They need to I don't know what's happened with games taking so
• 22:02
  long to make now. >> [laughter] >> There's been a big shift. >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:08
  >> Like they were able to release GTA 3,
• 22:13
  San Andreas, Vice City, 4, and 5 in the time it's made it taken
• 22:18
  them to make 6. Like, what's happening now? >> Well, they're more complicated. People
• 22:23
  demand more from them, I guess. And like look at Let me just look at the world,
• 22:29
  the game world, and everything. It's so much much more complicated. Like
• 22:33
  >> I don't know. It just seems like a lot longer. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> a good chance
• 22:39
  It's a good The way it's going, we will never get to play Elder Scrolls 7.
• 22:44
  >> No, we'll be dead. >> going to take 30 years to make. >> [laughter]
• 22:49
  >> We'll be uh the Skyrim grandma playing Elder Scrolls 7.
• 22:54
  If we're if we're around. Um yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. And then the uh
• 23:01
  they're not getting cheaper. So >> No. >> Um Although we've talked about this.
• 23:06
  Technically they're not getting more expensive either, although they are slightly now.
• 23:10
  People are complaining about it. >> They are complaining, but I've also been
• 23:13
  saying for a long time that they shouldn't have been.
• 23:15
  >> Yeah. Inflation-wise they've never been cheaper. >> Yeah. >> Um
• 23:22
  >> some of the I think we need need more double A games
• 23:26
  at that midpoint that are >> Yeah. >> Like the RoboCop games and the
• 23:32
  Terminator games. Like I find them that midpoint. Like they don't take as long
• 23:35
  to make. They're not >> Mhm. >> the greatest game ever, but they're not
• 23:38
  they're fun and they're at a cheaper price point. We need more of that level, I think.
• 23:42
  >> Yeah, right. >> Instead of just indie or triple A. >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:49
  >> But what do I know? I just buy them all. >> Yeah, you buy everything. Don't listen
• 23:53
  to him. Luke will buy whatever you put out. Uh another interesting Xbox-related thing. Um
• 23:59
  They announced that new Gears of War game that I didn't think looked
• 24:02
  particularly good, but people were just but enjoying it. I don't know what you
• 24:04
  think of it. >> I'm actually Are you talking about the um Emergence
• 24:09
  Day one, E-Day coming out? >> yeah. >> I'm actually quite scared about this one
• 24:13
  because they've actually said this is the longest um
• 24:17
  story that they've ever had for a Gears of War game. >> Mhm.
• 24:21
  >> And I felt because I've played them all and some of them they feel like they've
• 24:24
  gone on far too long. >> Yeah, sure. >> And then they're saying this one's even
• 24:27
  longer. I'm a bit scared about that. >> Yeah, I don't know. It just didn't look
• 24:31
  I mean, looked like Gears of War, but I don't know. The map that they showed
• 24:35
  or I I I didn't watch the whole thing. There was like a whole presentation
• 24:38
  about it, but the bits that I saw of it I was like, "Ah, it doesn't look very
• 24:41
  interesting to me." >> Mhm. >> Uh but I guess maybe I'm not the target audience.
• 24:46
  That's fine. Uh but the interesting thing about it is that it is a Xbox exclusive
• 24:52
  now, but they had previously uh had artwork and stuff done that had
• 24:59
  the PlayStation logo on it. And so everybody was like, "Hang on a minute. >> [laughter]
• 25:05
  >> When did that happen?" >> Yeah, and I think Sony's actually now a
• 25:10
  little bit upset with Xbox about this cuz they've gone back on this. I think
• 25:16
  at their state of play they were meant to have like a Halo gameplay and stuff
• 25:19
  and at the last minute Sony sort of went PlayStation went Xbox went, "No, you
• 25:24
  can't have that. We're not going to show that now." And they're just starting to
• 25:28
  backtrack on some of the stuff they're showing. >> There's a new Halo game, too, right?
• 25:33
  >> There's Halo Combat Evolved just remastered in Unreal.
• 25:36
  >> Yeah, yeah. But isn't there another one that's like Or is it that Halo Combat
• 25:40
  Evolved has got >> It's got new missions. >> Okay, maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
• 25:44
  >> You're playing as Sergeant Johnson for the first three missions, yes. Yeah. >> [snorts]
• 25:49
  >> Interesting. Just a remake of Halo. Otherwise.
• 25:54
  >> Yeah, it's a remake of Halo apart from three three missions that you sort of a
• 25:58
  bit of a prequel. >> All right. >> But that's >> I don't know.
• 26:03
  >> We get that. But I I think it's also we get to a point of
• 26:08
  year when no one wants to release anything big. With I think we were
• 26:12
  coming up with a lot of good games coming out but now everyone's too afraid
• 26:15
  of Grand Theft Auto. >> Speaking of, some [clears throat] fun news for
• 26:21
  people who own GTA V on older consoles, PS4 and Xbox One,
• 26:27
  they've put out free upgrades to the current generation.
• 26:32
  >> Which is sort of weird. Like has this been something they've been sitting on
• 26:35
  or have they been actively working on it? Cuz I thought the stuff that was
• 26:39
  >> Well, isn't there already versions of GTA V for those consoles? Is this just a
• 26:44
  case of there or am I misunderstanding this? That that
• 26:49
  these games were only on PS4 and Xbox One and now they've released Xbox Series
• 26:54
  X and PlayStation 5 versions or >> No. >> did they just give people a free upgrade?
• 26:59
  >> They're giving people a free upgrade cuz there was a point where they went with
• 27:02
  the older consoles like we're not giving you upgrades anymore.
• 27:06
  Like we're just going to focus on the newer consoles. So
• 27:09
  >> Okay. So there was already a like an Xbox Series X version of GTA 5. Okay. >> Yeah.
• 27:14
  >> You would have had to buy it. >> Yes. >> Right.
• 27:17
  >> So they were focusing on that and then the older versions just weren't getting
• 27:21
  any new content. >> Okay. >> And now they're saying, "Hey, no. We're
• 27:25
  going to give you all those upgrades." Which I thought the reason why they stopped
• 27:29
  doing it was because the older consoles couldn't maybe handle it or but evidently it
• 27:35
  could and they just want people to play the game again.
• 27:38
  >> I But like this doesn't work on the old console. It's just if you have if you
• 27:43
  bought the game on the old console, you now get the version for the upgrade for the
• 27:47
  Series X. You know what I'm saying? >> Oh, I thought they were upgrading they
• 27:50
  were giving you a Oh. >> No, no, no. I'm saying if you own GTA if
• 27:54
  you have an Xbox Series X but you bought GTA 6 on the Xbox One and you only have
• 27:59
  that version, they're saying you can have the nice version. >> Okay. No.
• 28:03
  >> Which you would have had to pay for previously.
• 28:04
  >> Yeah. I I thought they were cuz I know there was a point where they stopped
• 28:07
  doing upgrades and stuff for Grand Theft Auto live and stuff and I thought they were
• 28:11
  here's here you can have all the upgrades that you missed on the old console.
• 28:15
  >> No, I don't think so. >> Okay. That's actually quite nice. >> It is, yeah. Uh it's
• 28:22
  I guess do they want people playing 5 to get hyped up for 6? Maybe that's what it
• 28:25
  is. They're trying to build up >> so but everyone's already The people who
• 28:28
  are playing 5 are already playing 5. >> That's what I mean. Yeah. What hype do
• 28:32
  you need? You've >> Yeah. >> It's like the most hyped game ever.
• 28:35
  >> Yeah. This is what I'm going to be very interested to see their uh marketing
• 28:39
  strategy because I keep saying they do not need it. >> No, but you know.
• 28:45
  >> All they need to do is what done. They've released some trailers which are
• 28:49
  some of fastest watch trailers ever. >> Yeah. >> And then they need to give a release
• 28:55
  date. Their marketing work's done. And then everyone will just talk about it. >> Mhm. Mhm.
• 29:01
  Yeah. >> So with wasn't it with GTA V like they said they spent hundreds
• 29:07
  of millions of dollars on marketing for that? >> Probably. Yeah. Yeah, cuz of billboards
• 29:12
  everywhere. >> Everywhere. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 29:17
  >> We'll find We'll see. We've only got what? July, August, September, October. What?
• 29:24
  5 months to go. >> I don't care. >> I'm looking forward to it.
• 29:30
  >> Uh it just doesn't interest me. I'm not going to I'm not going to play it.
• 29:35
  >> I'm excited. >> I'll play it. >> I tried to play GTA V. Didn't like it.
• 29:40
  >> game. I don't Yeah, I >> I don't like it. It bores me. I don't know why. It's boring.
• 29:45
  >> I don't know. I've played through it like five times. >> Really?
• 29:49
  >> Mhm. It gets boring on the fifth time. I'll tell you that. >> [laughter]
• 29:52
  >> It gets boring five minutes into the first time. I don't know what I don't
• 29:55
  know what it is, man. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest. I can't explain it.
• 30:01
  >> What What is coming out? >> Clearly I'm wrong cuz everybody loves
• 30:04
  this stuff, but I just I don't care. I don't know.
• 30:10
  >> There's got to be some good games coming out soon, though.
• 30:13
  Well, they're starting to see a lot more slop coming out. >> Yeah.
• 30:18
  >> Which I buy them all, but >> All the asset flips. >> Yeah.
• 30:23
  >> I was talking to my friend the other day. He was describing a game he was
• 30:27
  playing, and I'm like, "That sounds like a [ __ ] asset flip to me." >> [laughter]
• 30:30
  >> It was a dig a hole. Have you played Dig a Hole? >> Oh, I love that game.
• 30:34
  >> Yeah, okay. Yeah, my friend Jimmy was talking about Dig a Hole, and I was
• 30:38
  like, "That doesn't sound like a real game." >> [laughter]
• 30:41
  >> But But then as he went on I was like, "Oh, okay. There is like
• 30:44
  upgrade mechanics and stuff apparently." >> Yep. I I finished that. 100% of it. >> Yeah.
• 30:50
  And you loved it you said. >> I enjoyed it. There was a cheat for it though which
• 30:53
  >> You walked that back slightly there. But, okay. There's a cheat for it?
• 30:56
  >> There's a cheat for it. So, the whole thing is about you dig the
• 31:00
  hole, you get it all, you sell the all, you upgrade your gear, you dig more, and
• 31:04
  you got to get to the bottom. Well, there's a certain tile in the game
• 31:09
  which if you hit that tile, it gives you like a thousand or ten thousand
• 31:14
  dollars every time you hit that tile. So, you can just get all the money up front.
• 31:19
  Buy all the and then you can fly through the game quite quickly. >> Right. All right.
• 31:24
  >> I did that. >> [laughter] >> It's not cheating though cuz the game
• 31:28
  lets you do it. That's fine. >> Game lets you do it. They put the They
• 31:30
  put it in. I just used it. There is one game coming out soon that I'm looking forward to.
• 31:34
  >> Go on. >> And it's got July is Assassin's Creed Black Flag.
• 31:38
  >> Oh. Uh and I've played that game. I got an advanced copy 10 years ago.
• 31:44
  >> [laughter] >> This one might look a little bit different.
• 31:48
  >> Oh, really? Okay. Uh no, I remember that being very good.
• 31:53
  So, uh and and apparently this version of it is excellent. So, I'm interested in that.
• 31:58
  >> I really enjoyed the sailing. >> Yeah. >> Just the sailing.
• 32:05
  >> Uh favorite is still uh Odyssey. But, they won't remake that cuz
• 32:10
  it's not it's not quite long enough.
• 32:14
  >> Uh have you done all the DLC for it? >> Uh I've done
• 32:19
  >> of it but it's mostly gets into the supernatural stuff.
• 32:21
  >> Yeah, I did I did I've done the Cyclops. I've done Medusa. I've done um
• 32:26
  I think I've done most of that stuff, yeah. >> Yeah.
• 32:30
  Yeah, cuz yeah, it's not yeah, the while it is DLC for it and it is in the game it's
• 32:36
  >> Oh, yeah. Cuz the main story line is just about your brother or your sister if you play
• 32:42
  as Alexios. I don't know why you would though. Uh if you play correctly as Cassandra it's
• 32:46
  about finding him. Uh
• 32:49
  right? That's the main plot. And then or Uh but yeah, you're right. The
• 32:54
  supernatural stuff and the stuff with like Pythagoras and all that DLC.
• 32:58
  >> That's more of a side quest in the main game. That's more of a side quest in the
• 33:01
  main game, yeah. >> I did it all at once so it was kind of
• 33:04
  like hard to tell what was DLC and what wasn't. >> Yeah. >> It's a good game.
• 33:11
  >> Yeah. Well, the closest you're going to get to a re-release of anything you soon
• 33:14
  is Black Flag. >> Yeah, okay. I'll check it out. >> We'll play that.
• 33:21
  >> Pirates. >> Nothing wrong with pirates. >> No. No, I we got some pirate news.
• 33:29
  >> We've got pirate news? >> Yeah. >> Pirate news.
• 33:32
  >> Uh this is apparently an exclusive by Collider this week. Hugh Jackman is
• 33:37
  starring in Ridley Scott's new adaptation of Treasure Island.
• 33:42
  Ridley Scott's doing Treasure Island. Uh >> Okay. >> Uh Ridley Scott, I don't know, man.
• 33:48
  >> Ridley Scott doing Treasure Island?
• 33:50
  >> Yeah. I mean, this is Ridley Scott is
• 33:56
  I guess I should still say one of my favorite directors. Although
• 34:01
  lately it's just like, [ __ ] man. Like hit or miss.
• 34:05
  >> Yeah, and I just I don't know. I just >> This could be really excellent or it
• 34:11
  could be one of his duds. >> I'm going to head towards one of his
• 34:15
  duds, honestly, cuz this does not really feel like a movie he would make.
• 34:22
  >> I mean, maybe that's good. >> Like it's definitely not in his
• 34:25
  wheelhouse when you look at what he's done ever.
• 34:29
  >> That's fair. I mean, Hugh Jackman said, "I got the script written by Jack Thorne
• 34:33
  who did Adolescence, which is that TV series everybody loved
• 34:37
  with that kid. I've never read Treasure Island. I'd never seen Treasure Island.
• 34:41
  I'd heard of Long John Silver, but I really didn't know anything. I just read
• 34:44
  the script and I was like, this is genius." So. >> Okay.
• 34:49
  >> Yeah. I mean, maybe it's just the fact he's never read the book. He was
• 34:55
  like, "First of all, I like that's got nothing to do with Ridley Scott. It's just
• 35:00
  look, maybe, you know?" So, I don't know. >> All right. Well, we'll we'll wait and
• 35:05
  see, yeah, I guess. We've got a while to wait. >> Oh, yeah. They're not even
• 35:11
  making it yet. It's just he's read the script. >> just think Ridley Scott and Hugh Jackman
• 35:16
  are a strange choice for this. >> Yeah. You think he's going to sing and dance
• 35:21
  in it? >> If he gets his way.
• 35:24
  >> He's going to have adamantium claws.
• 35:30
  >> No, they killed him, remember? >> Yeah, they Well, they they brought him back.
• 35:35
  >> They did, didn't they? >> Ryan Reynolds brought him back.
• 35:38
  Everybody hates Ryan Reynolds now. Have we talked about this?
• 35:41
  >> I've sort of seen Yeah, a lot of people have really just
• 35:44
  >> Yeah, how do you feel about him? Can we get a Ryan Reynolds update from Luke?
• 35:48
  >> I haven't seen him do anything fun lately. The movies that he's made.
• 35:52
  >> Because I think he's hiding. >> [laughter] >> Because of all this stuff with his wife.
• 35:59
  Every I I I said I I don't know enough about this to be informed. >> No.
• 36:03
  >> That's the thing. I just know >> Neither do I.
• 36:06
  >> She did that movie with that director. >> And then really there's something that
• 36:10
  happened on that set. >> Yeah, something happened. She accused
• 36:14
  him of being inappropriate, and then it was a whole big thing, and then they
• 36:19
  uh the the from what I understand
• 36:23
  Ryan Reynolds and her, Blake Lively, did this big smear campaign. This is
• 36:28
  allegedly, right? Also allegedly and also filtered through me a dummy idiot
• 36:32
  who doesn't know anything. So don't [laughter] don't sue me, all right? This
• 36:35
  is what I think happened. They did some smear campaign and everybody just
• 36:38
  [ __ ] hates them. >> Yep. >> Especially her. >> Every Also I think there was a lawsuit
• 36:44
  cuz apparently there was a character with they went was a lot like whoever
• 36:47
  the other guy is and they killed him off in Deadpool and it was meant to be a
• 36:53
  >> There's a lot of like weird petty stuff, it seems like. >> Yeah.
• 36:56
  >> And then and then now it's like uh you start start seeing these articles
• 37:00
  about how everybody's just sick of Ryan Reynolds trying to make everything about
• 37:03
  him. I think we talked about that briefly a while ago.
• 37:06
  >> And then but I'm like, oh that's all coming from this stuff. Anyway, point being
• 37:10
  >> I used to like it cuz he used to go through he make stuff like
• 37:14
  stuff that was like direct to Netflix type of >> Sure, like Free Guy Man and all that
• 37:19
  stuff. >> Free Guy Man. Oh, Free Guy Man wasn't. Free Guy Man was was moved up like Red
• 37:23
  with The Rock. He done Free Guy Man with The Rock and things like that which were
• 37:28
  just fun movies which I thought. And then Yeah, I haven't heard anything about
• 37:33
  from him changing his shirt admitting a goal watching Wrexham.
• 37:39
  That's the last honestly the last thing I heard about him was yeah, he had a
• 37:41
  wardrobe change while watching the game and missed a goal.
• 37:46
  >> What is Ryan Reynolds doing these days? Let's see.
• 37:51
  >> Must be up to something. >> Oh. He's doing a sailing adventure series
• 37:57
  with Hugh Jackman. Not Treasure Island. >> [laughter] >> A sailing uh thing.
• 38:04
  Uh >> Is it just >> Reynolds and his wife Blake Lively have
• 38:07
  recently been navigating intense public and legal scrutiny surrounding her legal
• 38:11
  battles with It Ends With Us director Justin Baldoni. >> Okay.
• 38:17
  >> Reports suggest the couple has been considering a move to the UK to seek a
• 38:20
  fresh start and escape the domestic tabloid drama while also being closer to Wrexham.
• 38:25
  >> I'm just going to point out there to escape tabloid drama, the UK's not
• 38:32
  the best place to [laughter] be. >> [gasps] >> Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, I
• 38:36
  know, but like maybe people don't care about him as much over there, you know? >> Yeah.
• 38:43
  But yeah, I I I just yeah, I just from my feeling, if I was to look at where
• 38:47
  where in the world is the worst place for tabloids, I'm going to UK. >> You reckon?
• 38:51
  >> Yeah. >> That might be true, I don't know. America's pretty bad. But yeah.
• 38:57
  >> No, no, just in my head, just UK's always been worse. Maybe it's just cuz
• 39:01
  they killed Di. >> Yeah. Well, that was in Paris, yeah.
• 39:05
  >> Yeah, but that was all the same. People on motorbikes, paparazzi trying
• 39:10
  to track him down for that one photo. Just leave people alone. >> Yeah.
• 39:15
  He's still hung up on Princess Diana. >> [laughter] >> Speaking of the UK, >> Yes.
• 39:21
  >> We've got some UK computer news. >> Ooh. >> And now, we discussed this briefly
• 39:27
  during the week. >> Mhm. >> Uh as I think we mentioned previously,
• 39:33
  YouTuber Christian What's his name? Uh Perifractic. >> Yeah.
• 39:39
  >> I can't remember his his surname. Uh he has purchased He's the CEO of
• 39:43
  Commodore. He purchased Commodore. >> It still just blows my mind. >> [laughter]
• 39:48
  >> Uh hang on. What's his his name? Uh not that it matters, but Christian Simpson.
• 39:53
  Bought Commodore. He's the CEO of Commodore now. Uh blew everybody's minds. He's like his
• 39:59
  YouTube content has stopped cuz I guess he's too [ __ ] busy now. So, like all
• 40:04
  his YouTube content is based just around Commodore stuff. He used to do all the
• 40:06
  retro recipes, um retro gaming content, all this kind of
• 40:11
  stuff. Uh I checked, he hasn't done anything like that in ages. I guess
• 40:14
  unfortunately just doesn't have time now, which is a shame, cuz I really
• 40:16
  liked his YouTube content. Um He
• 40:21
  uh they released the Commodore 64 Ultimate, which is a version of the
• 40:25
  Commodore 64 computer that's modern, right? And and everyone get five-star
• 40:30
  reviews, brilliant, okay? This is the best version of this computer from the
• 40:34
  '80s that you can get, good stuff, right? But where do you go from there? >> Exactly.
• 40:39
  >> Right? You can't just keep doing that forever. >> No, because the people who
• 40:43
  say this is awesome, they've already got it. >> Exactly. Yeah, you bought that now.
• 40:47
  That's the best Commodore 64. >> Yep. >> What else is Commodore going to do? They
• 40:51
  don't People keep saying they need to do an Amiga. They don't own the rights to
• 40:54
  Amiga, right? They need to People just get off their backs about that, right?
• 40:59
  He doesn't He can't do that. It's not possible. >> Mhm. >> So, what do you do?
• 41:04
  >> You make an amazing phone. >> You make a flip phone, apparently.
• 41:09
  And this has been very contentious. >> What really? I'm all in on this phone.
• 41:14
  >> Really? Okay, cool. All right, good. I'm glad we could talk about it. So, this phone
• 41:20
  if you watched Retro Recipes, you would know that Perifractic
• 41:26
  does not like modern phones. He does not like social media. He thinks we're
• 41:30
  addicted to our phones. He's got videos about different ways that he's tried to
• 41:33
  like wean himself off social media and use his phone less than be more present,
• 41:37
  this kind of thing. It's a big a big thing for him. Like he genuinely
• 41:41
  seems to really care about it, right? >> Yep. >> So, this phone is, I think,
• 41:48
  very on brand. It's very Perifractic. It's a flip phone with no social media.
• 41:54
  >> Yep. >> Um it's Android. It runs Android.
• 41:58
  >> Well, well, it says it it'll run 99% of Android apps with all the apps.
• 42:03
  >> not Android. It's uh it's it's a uh Sailfish, [ __ ] whatever it is. Uh
• 42:09
  Sailfish OS, which is a third-party OS. You're absolutely right. >> Yep.
• 42:13
  >> It's not Android. It just runs Android apps. Uh and
• 42:18
  it's blocks at I guess the operating system level social media and browsers.
• 42:24
  You can't even It doesn't even have a web browser because, and he was asked
• 42:27
  about this in the comments >> Mhm. >> on the YouTube video, people People have
• 42:31
  been very harsh on this. Uh he asked about cuz it He said
• 42:35
  browsers are just the back door to do all that stuff again. And the whole
• 42:37
  point of the the whole point of this the ethos of this phone is no, you can't do
• 42:42
  any of that stuff. It's got uh um but it It's so one of the problems
• 42:48
  people have is, right, when you try and go off a modern phone, you go to a flip
• 42:51
  phone, you can't do things that you need to do. >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> Because
• 42:56
  a lot of stuff now assumes that you will have a phone. >> Yes.
• 42:59
  >> Like so maps uh banking apps uh you know,
• 43:05
  uh WhatsApp and and messaging in a lot of countries you have to have something
• 43:09
  like WhatsApp because they don't have SMSs are still [ __ ] expensive
• 43:12
  apparently around the world. >> Yeah. >> So this still does that stuff.
• 43:18
  >> Right, exactly. >> Yep, everyone. >> Yeah. And like that's how we talk on WhatsApp
• 43:23
  cuz we're in different countries. All right, and so it it still has that
• 43:25
  stuff. It just doesn't have like Facebook or or Twitter or any of that kind of thing. Um
• 43:30
  >> The only thing I need to check is is which I know maybe goes a little bit
• 43:34
  against the social media I want to see if it's got YouTube cuz that's I still use YouTube.
• 43:39
  >> it doesn't. >> But I bet it doesn't. >> Yeah. You can do that on your computer.
• 43:43
  I think that's that's the point is that you should be doing that on your
• 43:45
  computer perhaps or your TV. >> Well, that's fine. I'll just install Audible.
• 43:51
  >> Yep. Well, hopefully it still allows you to do that. >> Yep. >> But uh yeah, uh
• 43:57
  it's interesting. It looks very retro intentionally. >> Mhm.
• 44:03
  >> Um and it's it's a Commodore flip phone. >> It's a Yeah, it's a smart dumb phone or
• 44:08
  a dumb smart phone depending on how you want to look at it. >> Mhm. Um the main
• 44:14
  issue people have had with this, even if you agree that it's a good idea,
• 44:19
  is that it's quite expensive. And uh he's pointing out in the comments
• 44:26
  it's still cheaper than what they would say is the equivalent, which is fair.
• 44:32
  But I think the problem is people are comparing this to
• 44:36
  the less capable flip phones. The other ones that you know I said like you get a
• 44:40
  flip phone that can't do anything. >> Yeah. >> This is not that. This is a flip phone
• 44:44
  that's very capable. It just has very specific things that that that it's not >> Yeah.
• 44:49
  >> to do. Like they don't want to >> between the both of them. Like it's not
• 44:54
  >> Right. And so this is 500 bucks.
• 44:57
  Uh I think
• 45:01
  full price is five for a 549 US. I think it's 590 There's been some confusion.
• 45:07
  Originally it was 50 bucks off if you pre-ordered, now it's 100. So, I don't
• 45:10
  know if the price reflects correctly. But it's basically everyone's like it's 500 bucks.
• 45:16
  >> Yeah. >> And then people have said that's insane for what this is.
• 45:21
  But I don't know. Like I think they're not going to sell
• 45:26
  [ __ ] billions of these. So, >> No. >> that price point probably reflects
• 45:31
  realistic ideas about what it costs to to make versus So, how much they're
• 45:35
  going to sell like >> Look, this isn't going to compete
• 45:37
  against Apple or Google or anything for the market share. Like it's
• 45:43
  >> No. Uh I don't know. I think this is interesting. I'm
• 45:48
  like I I mean it's not for me. I don't think. >> I'm thinking about it.
• 45:55
  >> Yeah? [clears throat] Man, I would love it if you did cuz I
• 45:57
  would love to know what it's like. >> I think it'd would a great phone to travel with.
• 46:04
  >> Yeah? >> Yeah. This makes my something I'd buy to
• 46:09
  travel with. Just it's cuz I'm going to guess the battery life will be better. >> Yes.
• 46:15
  In particular, it doesn't have 5G or anything. It's got It's only 4G because
• 46:18
  I think the trade-off was well, you don't need it. Cuz 5G is for like
• 46:21
  massive content streaming, which is this doesn't do. >> Yeah. >> So, it's got 4G
• 46:26
  uh which allows the battery life to be infinitely longer. >> Yep.
• 46:31
  >> Not infinitely. You know what I mean. I'm being hyperbolic. >> [laughter]
• 46:34
  >> But, still going to be a lot better than yeah. Yeah.
• 46:40
  I'm joining the wait list. >> Are you? >> I'm doing it. >> Neat.
• 46:47
  You know what? I'll do it, too.
• 46:52
  I want to be supportive. >> What [laughter] is it?
• 46:55
  >> Here's the code. I'm not going to say what the code is. Don't say the code out loud.
• 46:58
  >> No. >> That would be hilarious. [laughter] Very practical you watching that made me
• 47:02
  laugh. >> I can use But, I can use this on the at checkout on the 30th of June for a
• 47:07
  total of $100 off. >> That's very funny. Um >> Well, I'm seriously considering it
• 47:13
  though cuz it's available in Australia. >> Yeah.
• 47:19
  Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. I I think they would want it
• 47:22
  internationally, too. I I think this is an This is clearly a niche product. >> Yes.
• 47:26
  >> Right, clearly. So, wide availability I think would be necessary cuz again, they
• 47:30
  have to >> It comes in white, silver, >> Yeah. >> beige, Starlight Edition, or the
• 47:35
  Founders Edition. The Founders Edition is just gold and
• 47:40
  >> Yeah, people are comparing it to the Trump phone. >> Yeah.
• 47:43
  >> Unfortunately. Oh, by the way, >> Mhm. >> the Trump phone came out. Uh let's not
• 47:48
  mix that in with this. >> We'll >> [laughter] >> We'll come We'll come back to that.
• 47:50
  >> We'll come back to that. Let's go back to that. Cuz I don't want to I don't
• 47:52
  want to associate them in any way. This is not I the Trump phone.
• 47:56
  >> Well, I'm tossing up between the beige and the starlight edition.
• 47:59
  I'll probably go to the beige actually. >> Yeah, I think. >> Just that classic
• 48:05
  >> Yeah, it looks like a Commodore 64. >> Yeah. >> Or 64C. >> Yeah.
• 48:11
  >> Which is my Commodore 64. >> A prototype. So actually still was quite cool.
• 48:18
  >> I don't know. There I don't hate this as much as some people in the comments do. I
• 48:23
  said it's been feedback has been like pretty harsh. >> Um
• 48:27
  >> And like clearly this isn't for everybody, but I don't know. I feel like
• 48:30
  it deserves deserves a shot. Like >> Yeah. >> I think it's a cool idea. It's very like
• 48:36
  when I saw it, I guess because I'm familiar with his content, I was like,
• 48:41
  "Oh, okay. This is he made a phone for himself. Like >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> And
• 48:46
  >> Yeah. >> like I feel like that's not a bad idea is like you have you have a specific
• 48:51
  need. There will be others who have that need or want. Like it's not not a bad idea.
• 48:58
  >> Well, there if you go down and have a look at like
• 49:02
  a prototype of the phone, he's got like he's comparing to like the other phones
• 49:05
  out there like light phone three. Like it doesn't come with WhatsApp, ride
• 49:08
  share, ride share. It doesn't come with battery swaps or anything. >> Mhm.
• 49:14
  Yeah, the light phone is like a um uh what was it? E ink kind of looking thing.
• 49:20
  >> Yeah, which is like $300 more expensive than what this Commodore one's going to
• 49:24
  be. Like >> Yeah. >> What are people complaining about? >> Well, I think
• 49:31
  one of the things I was just you know, just don't install Facebook on your on your phone.
• 49:35
  >> Yeah, but that that that doesn't work. >> Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. I mean
• 49:42
  >> I and if he was to put it out there and make it the same as it it's going to the
• 49:45
  price is going to jump up because it's going to have to be 5G. It's going to
• 49:49
  have to have a Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Otherwise people would be complaining
• 49:53
  it's too slow and battery doesn't last and things like that. So, there's no way
• 49:59
  it's going to win, but I think I might buy one. >> All right. Well, I'm that's very
• 50:05
  interesting. I would love to hear what you think if you do.
• 50:09
  Uh I wish them the best of success. I people are saying, you know, all the uh
• 50:13
  Commodores, you know, uh Commodore's gone again. Like, they're
• 50:17
  being very negative about it. Um Yeah, I don't know.
• 50:22
  I hopefully that's not the case. I hope this is as big a success as they need it to be
• 50:27
  to to do whatever they got. He also said, to be clear, there's other stuff coming.
• 50:31
  >> Yes. It has to be as well. >> This isn't the This isn't all Commodores
• 50:36
  got going on. He was very clear about that. So, if this is not for you, fine.
• 50:42
  >> There's more to come. >> But, again, they can't just make
• 50:45
  Commodore 64 versions [laughter] forever, right? So,
• 50:51
  >> Like, if this was all they were going to do, yes, the business is over, but I
• 50:55
  doubt this is Yeah, this is not what they have planned cuz >> No.
• 50:59
  They've got more stuff coming. >> I'm interested to see what they've got coming next.
• 51:03
  >> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it's called the Call
• 51:07
  Back. Uh go to commodore.net if you are interested in checking it out. Uh we
• 51:13
  don't get anything for talking about it. I just like I said, I just
• 51:16
  I like Petro Fraktik. I wish him the best of luck with this. I'm interested
• 51:21
  to see where this goes. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> A lot of It's just You just wait and
• 51:28
  see. >> Yeah. Yes.
• 51:33
  Um we've got some more video game news we should talk about. We have mentioned
• 51:38
  before, I believe, that there is the Stop Destroying Video Games European
• 51:43
  Citizens Initiative, Yes, was an attempt to have
• 51:50
  the European Commission step in and prevent studios or publishers from
• 51:56
  shutting down game servers for games that require them. So basically making
• 52:01
  games unplayable after people purchase them.
• 52:04
  Which I think is a noble cause. However, the European Commission has announced
• 52:11
  they will engage with the industry to work through it, but they cannot propose
• 52:16
  a legal obligation to keep video games playable. They cannot make it illegal
• 52:21
  for them to do this. >> See, well, here's the thing. They're not actually
• 52:25
  They don't actually want them to make it They don't want to make it legal for
• 52:31
  them to support the game forever. >> Right. >> They just want it to be let people take
• 52:37
  over. Like let people be able to >> Sure. >> host the servers or games or whatever
• 52:44
  they need anymore. Don't just Sorry, we're flicking off our servers and you
• 52:48
  cannot play this game ever again. >> Well, I think I think what they're
• 52:51
  saying is they can't or they're not going to for whatever reason step in and
• 52:56
  make a law that that does anything to do with that. They'll just They'll work
• 53:00
  with They'll work with them to try and figure it out. But they're not going to make a law
• 53:06
  >> It's such a shame cuz if it was going to come from anywhere, it was going to be
• 53:09
  the European Commission. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think people were trying to have
• 53:14
  them make it illegal. >> Mhm. >> And I think that's this is their saying,
• 53:19
  "No, we can't do that." >> Can't do that. >> But maybe we can figure something out.
• 53:22
  >> And I hope that and I think that's all people want is to figure something out.
• 53:26
  Like they understand I don't think a lot of people that even behind this issue
• 53:30
  understand that a company can't just keep pouring money into keep servers up
• 53:36
  for the three players that are still playing. Like that's >> Yeah, exactly.
• 53:39
  >> fair on the company. >> business. It's not a >> But they should on the other side
• 53:45
  hand over like go, "Hey, look, here's the code if you need someone wants to
• 53:49
  take this over or run with it or do what you want to do to make your own and
• 53:52
  we'll stay out of your way." type of thing. >> Yeah, cuz people also feel like, "Oh,
• 53:56
  make it sing make them single player. Make a single player offline mode." It's
• 53:59
  like, "Yeah, but that takes resources, time and money." Like, they don't have
• 54:02
  that. Especially if it's the tail end of the game. >> Yeah.
• 54:05
  >> Like, that's the There's the way they're shutting it down is cuz it's not making
• 54:07
  any money. >> Yeah, they're shutting it down cuz no one's playing anymore. The only reason
• 54:11
  you're worked up about it is cuz you've heard it's going away. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]
• 54:15
  >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh unfortunate news for those who wanted
• 54:21
  that. It's not happening. >> Well, hopefully they can still have a
• 54:24
  that conversation can still lead to something. >> Yeah. >> To a middle ground.
• 54:31
  >> Yes. Figure something out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
• 54:37
  >> We'll wait and see. But, before we move on, we did say we're
• 54:41
  going to talk about the Trump phone. >> Oh, yeah. Sorry. Good point. Yeah, so
• 54:45
  somebody got one. Um >> Yeah. >> It's uh it's not very good, I guess. >> No.
• 54:51
  No, it's just a >> a plastic >> re-skin of something else. >> Yeah, it's a HTC >> Yeah.
• 54:57
  >> phone. Not made in America. >> It says it's assembled. >> Yeah, is it
• 55:03
  >> How much of it is assembled? I reckon >> He was skeptical. He said, "Well, I'll
• 55:06
  put in the box in America, perhaps." >> [laughter]
• 55:09
  >> I know. I reckon they may have put the case on. >> Oh, yeah. The plastic case swap.
• 55:14
  >> The plastic case swap. That that's it. >> Mhm. It's supposed to be gold. It's yellow.
• 55:19
  Um >> Oh, really? >> Yeah, it's the like he's Yeah, he said
• 55:23
  it's not cuz he he did a comparison. He's got uh this is I forget the name of
• 55:27
  the YouTuber. But, he on Amazon you can buy they're like gold
• 55:33
  plated uh golf balls. And they actually it's actual gold plating and I he said
• 55:38
  he I think he said he paid like 50 bucks for three of them. And the surface area
• 55:43
  of one of those is probably more than the phone
• 55:49
  because they're round and they've got all the dimples and stuff like that.
• 55:51
  Like certainly the three of them together it wouldn't have cost more than $50.
• 55:56
  Whatever it cost them to do the golf balls in theory you could have done that to
• 56:00
  the phone. It wouldn't have added much to the price. So >> Yeah.
• 56:03
  A lot of people started thinking that they just were hoping that people would
• 56:07
  have forgotten about the phone by now. >> [laughter] >> And now they've been oh [ __ ] we
• 56:12
  actually have to make this now. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I don't think they got the amount of
• 56:16
  people pre-ordering that they were hoping for. >> No. >> So
• 56:22
  and this is definitely not the phone that they were promised to begin with.
• 56:26
  >> No. No, I don't I mean I don't understand it at all to be honest. >> Well
• 56:30
  >> like the I don't understand why they made this. I don't understand why people
• 56:33
  would want this. I just don't understand. It's so strange.
• 56:38
  >> Trump just wants his name out there. >> I know. I know but Is this like
• 56:44
  >> if it's good or bad. >> My first thought is and I'm not accusing anybody of
• 56:51
  anything. I'm just going to say this. My first thought is you know what what
• 56:55
  country has government [ __ ] issued devices? It's North Korea. >> [laughter]
• 57:01
  >> I'm just saying. I don't know that I want everybody using a phone
• 57:05
  provided by the government. >> [laughter] >> Doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
• 57:09
  >> Well, here's the thing. This wasn't by the government. This is nothing to do
• 57:13
  with him being president. >> Yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure.
• 57:18
  >> It's the same way that the >> My phone is ringing and it's wobbling. Just ignore that.
• 57:23
  >> It's the same way that was it Trump got donated an airplane, not the government.
• 57:30
  >> Yes, from the Saudis. Yeah. >> Yes, the Saudis donated a plane to him
• 57:34
  and after he's done with his presidency then it gets donated to
• 57:38
  Trump's charity or something. Why does a charity need a 747? >> Yeah, the
• 57:45
  it's not the not going to go back to the next president or anything. He's going to keep
• 57:49
  >> That's that's not a bribe at all. That's not That's nothing soft about that. >> No.
• 57:55
  Everything is fine. >> [laughter] >> Have you done the thing yet? Are you
• 58:01
  still going to do it? >> I finished the thing. >> What?
• 58:05
  >> I have finished it. Would you like to know what the thing
• 58:09
  is? We're at the end of We're at just about at the end of the episode. I can
• 58:12
  let you know what the thing was. >> and I didn't notice? >> Yep.
• 58:16
  >> Did you give out a code? >> I did not give out a code.
• 58:18
  >> I thought it was going to be something like that. >> No. >> Were you
• 58:21
  Were you jerking off under the table? >> No. >> No?
• 58:25
  >> No. So, before we started recording, my gamer score
• 58:31
  would have been 5,614,088.
• 58:37
  If I refresh this now, >> You've been playing Xbox this whole time, you son of a [ __ ]
• 58:43
  I warned you about this. >> [laughter] >> That Xbox should be turned on.
• 58:49
  >> Just refreshing just to see what's happened with my gamer score. So, remember the 614.
• 58:54
  Sorry, there's two games in front of me that are slowing me down. I'm currently
• 58:56
  being scanned. I'm now >> Scanned? >> Wait for it.
• 59:03
  Come on. Get yourself scanned.
• 59:06
  I'm now 5,618,413.
• 59:12
  >> So, you got achievements while we were playing. >> Yeah.
• 59:16
  >> Yeah, playing. We weren't playing. We were having a recording a [ __ ]
• 59:19
  podcast. We're professionals. >> I I played
• 59:24
  two games. >> What? >> For a total of 4,000 gamer score.
• 59:30
  It was the Summer Seaside Search where I could just turn on the game and hold Y
• 59:36
  and it would just go through and get me all these achievements. [laughter]
• 59:39
  Yeah. And then I opened up the next copy of it and did the same thing all without
• 59:43
  you noticing. >> Wow. You turned the sound off. I didn't
• 59:47
  know what you were doing and I was like and I get annoyed with you. >> [laughter]
• 59:51
  >> I did make sure the sound was off. >> Well done. All right. I had no idea. >> Yep.
• 59:57
  >> That should not encourage you to do it again though.
• 59:59
  >> I I No, I just wanted to see if I could get away with it just once. >> All right.
• 1:00:04
  Uh my daughter has a gamer has a has a Xbox account now.
• 1:00:09
  >> Ooh, we have to become friends. >> She got her first achievement
• 1:00:12
  uh and her second achievement. So uh yeah, you'd be very proud.
• 1:00:16
  >> Yeah, she's coming for me. >> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I'll
• 1:00:20
  let I'll let you know what her gamertag is. It's uh I'm not going to announce it on the
• 1:00:24
  show, obviously, at the moment. Maybe at some point, but not right now. I'll send
• 1:00:27
  it I'll let you know though. But yeah, she's very excited. Now I was
• 1:00:30
  excited when she got her first achievement, which was Guess what game it was? >> Bluey?
• 1:00:34
  >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> And uh you've played the game I assume to
• 1:00:40
  get the achievements. You know where you do the floor is lava? >> Yes.
• 1:00:43
  >> And it's like a platformer type you got to jump and avoid the floor. And I find
• 1:00:47
  it that controls are atrocious in that game because it's like a kid She is
• 1:00:53
  [ __ ] good at it. >> [laughter] >> To the point where I was like, "What is happening? How
• 1:01:00
  How are you doing that?" She just burm burm burm burm burm and I'm like,
• 1:01:04
  "Fuck. All right." >> She's already out playing you.
• 1:01:09
  >> I'd add that, absolutely. Yeah. >> No, I'm keeping I'm keeping an eye.
• 1:01:12
  There's another Bluey game out at the moment, but I refuse to spend spend 60 bucks on it.
• 1:01:17
  >> What's the new Bluey game? >> Um Let's see.
• 1:01:23
  Bluey let's play. No, that's on the App Store. Quest [snorts] for the golden pen. Bluey
• 1:01:29
  Quest for the golden pen. >> Mhm. >> [clears throat]
• 1:01:33
  >> On the Nintendo Switch. Oh, look at this. Oh, wow.
• 1:01:38
  [ __ ] All right. >> It takes about 3 to 4 hours to get 100%
• 1:01:44
  of the achievements. >> [laughter] >> I don't care about that.
• 1:01:48
  >> But they're all just for playing in the game, which I quite like.
• 1:01:51
  >> Oh, okay. Quest for the golden How much is this on Xbox? Golden pen >> $60 for me.
• 1:01:58
  >> $40 for me. >> Um I That's a too much for what it is. That needs to
• 1:02:04
  be on sale. >> Yeah, how much of How much game is there here?
• 1:02:11
  >> About 3 to 4 hours. >> No, for you, yeah. How much Well, I got to say the other
• 1:02:18
  Bluey game has gotten a lot of uh given me a lot of value >> Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  >> She's technically played through it three times. Once on Jen's account, once on my
• 1:02:27
  account, and now on her own account. >> On hers. >> So.
• 1:02:31
  >> But it is a quite scary that it's like $60, but the size is 800 meg.
• 1:02:37
  >> [laughter] >> That's no reflection of the value or
• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:55
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• 1:02:58
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• 1:03:09
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• 1:03:16
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