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Sh%t Just Got Real · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically Black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 1: talk back. What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in
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  Speaker 1: to a new episode of We Talk Back, a show
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  Speaker 1: dedicated to you dreamers and chasers.
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  Speaker 2: You like that? Oh, I like it.
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  Speaker 1: My new boo came up with that.
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  Speaker 2: This bitch got a new boo every Thursday of the
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  Speaker 2: second month.
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  Speaker 1: I just wait.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, y'all, it's your girl AJ.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, Tam? Hey, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tam Bam. I love y'all. Thank y'all so much
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  Speaker 2: for tuning in. Hey, girl. What's up with you?
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  Speaker 1: Not much.
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  Speaker 2: How was your weekend? You know what? This weekend, it
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  Speaker 2: was my guy baby's second birthday, and we had a
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  Speaker 2: nice little party for her. And everybody brought their kids,
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  Speaker 2: and it was a cute little shindig. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at night, it turned into an adult party. And, baby,
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  Speaker 2: by the time the sun started going down, I was drunk,
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  Speaker 2: and I was on the bouncy house, and I was
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  Speaker 2: rolling down the slide on the bouncy house. by Sunday
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  Speaker 2: my whole body hurt like I had been in a.
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  Speaker 1: Car accident girl listen we can't be playing the same
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  Speaker 1: like how we used to.
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing it I did that cartwheel last week and
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  Speaker 2: my rotator cuff fucked up and now the bouncy house
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  Speaker 2: had my whole body sore on Sunday I can't grow up.
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  Speaker 1: Bitch that video you sent me trying to run that
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  Speaker 1: boogie is heavy y'all it's fucking heavy Like Tammy running
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  Speaker 1: slow fucking motion.
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  Speaker 2: I've let a dog or the police get behind me.
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  Speaker 2: Watch how fast I be beat.
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  Speaker 1: My weekend was cool, though. They had a Juneteenth big-ass festival.
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  Speaker 1: This is maybe the third annual now, the third year
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  Speaker 1: they've done it at the waterfront here in North Charleston.
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  Speaker 1: It was from 2 to 10 p.m. I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: out until like 6. I had to wait for the
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  Speaker 1: sun to go down. It was hard as fuck on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: It was a million people out there. They had very,
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  Speaker 1: very nice fireworks at.
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  Speaker 2: The end of the night.
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting for, like, I wish they would have
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  Speaker 1: did like 2 to 5 for families, right? And then
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  Speaker 1: from 5 to 10 for adults because you can't drink
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  Speaker 1: or smoke out there. Like, that's not fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's not what Juneteenth is about.
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  Speaker 1: Drink your own bottle. Girl, it's like a big ass
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  Speaker 1: family reunion.
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  Speaker 2: All that stuff. That's what it's all about. Kids don't
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  Speaker 2: need to be outside at 10 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Juneteenth?
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  Speaker 2: That's like saying kids shouldn't be out before 4th of July.
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  Speaker 1: They shouldn't after a certain time. Shoot. Look, my homegirl,
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  Speaker 1: her neighborhood is only like five black people that live
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  Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Five black families. She's single. She lives alone.
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  Speaker 1: But she said she came outside and she saw all
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  Speaker 1: the white people had their trash to the street on
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  Speaker 1: Monday and it kind of rubbed her the wrong way.
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  Speaker 1: Like y'all not acknowledging it's Juneteenth. Like trash man ain't coming.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. You know what? They probably are
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  Speaker 2: oblivious to that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They're not thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I was waiting on white people. Cause I was around
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  Speaker 2: a lot of white people yesterday, spin class and all
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  Speaker 2: these places. And I was just waiting on white people
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  Speaker 2: to say happy Juneteenth. But they was like, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon. Good evening. That's all I got. It was
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  Speaker 2: no happy Juneteenth, and I felt a way. So I
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  Speaker 2: would say, happy Juneteenth. Oh, yeah. Bitch.
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  Speaker 1: Girl, I don't care nothing about it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I would prefer reparations.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they gave us a day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, symbolic. Another day. Another symbolic win.
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  Speaker 1: Where's the money? Cut the check. We need that check, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody asked for this. That's why we got to get
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  Speaker 1: some of these old ass people out of politics.
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  Speaker 2: Because why?
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  Speaker 1: Who asked for that? But anyway, I know Juneteenth, I
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  Speaker 1: understand what it represents, but mainly people in Texas have
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  Speaker 1: always celebrated Juneteenth because them niggas didn't know they was
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  Speaker 1: free down there. That's what had happened.
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  Speaker 2: That's really what happened. Ain't that sad?
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  Speaker 1: I know. I feel like that was happening all over, though.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't know. It's almost like getting
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  Speaker 1: out of prison. Like, now what?
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of people who don't know they free today. Period.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, okay? Or let's not.
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  Speaker 2: Let's save that for another episode. Right. So let's get
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  Speaker 2: into sins of the week. This one is really sad,
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  Speaker 2: and I almost didn't want to talk about it, but
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do it anyway. Russell Simmons probably had
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  Speaker 2: the worst Father's Day of anybody this Father's Day. his
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  Speaker 2: daughter's first, the oldest daughter took to social media to
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  Speaker 2: basically tell her mom, happy father's day. And then Kimora
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  Speaker 2: got on and pretty much blasted him. And then the
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  Speaker 2: young one, she just went crazy with it and posted
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  Speaker 2: like him yelling at her. It was a screen record
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  Speaker 2: with no sound and basically saying that he has been
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  Speaker 2: a poor father figure for those kids, or, well, adults,
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  Speaker 2: because they're young adults now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it was sad to watch because, like Jay-Z says,
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  Speaker 2: nobody wins when the family feuds. That's how I feel
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  Speaker 2: about it. It's disheartening to see them going at it because,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, name a family who hasn't had problems, right?
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  Speaker 2: Name one. I'll show you somebody that's lying. Everybody has
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  Speaker 2: had something.
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  Speaker 1: Right now. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody has had something. But what everybody hasn't had is
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  Speaker 2: it public for the world to discuss and to be
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  Speaker 2: on We Talk Back podcast. You know, so. Air it out.
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  Speaker 1: All the family laundry.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with how
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  Speaker 1: they are taking it to the Internet. I understand emotions, though.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: And we don't know what's been going on. I know
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  Speaker 2: one thing.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of I like Russell Simmons.
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  Speaker 2: You know, me too. All that.
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  Speaker 1: But I side-eye him a lot. Is he back in
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  Speaker 1: the United States yet? Because you know he's been in
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  Speaker 1: Bali for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's in Bali still from what I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he has some allegations hanging on his back
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  Speaker 1: since 2017. Y'all know he was with Kimora for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. He was a teenager when they got together.
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  Speaker 1: He was 41 when they got married and she was
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  Speaker 1: like 22, 23 years old. He raised her. So I
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  Speaker 1: can just.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine the emotional trauma that she may have been.
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  Speaker 1: Through all of these years too. So we can't really like,
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  Speaker 1: like we had the episode on, you know, who, who's
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  Speaker 1: able to grieve and all that publicly. We can't really
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  Speaker 1: dictate how people choose to express. Yeah. Trauma.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a dog in this fight. Honestly, I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like it's sad and hopefully they can figure
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  Speaker 2: out how to be a family, you know, to be
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  Speaker 2: a healthy family. That's what I wish for us all though.
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  Speaker 1: So, so the one thing, um, So Kamora Lee's ex-husband,
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  Speaker 1: what is his name? Tim Lesner. So that guy, all
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  Speaker 1: of them are all wrapped up in that shit that
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  Speaker 1: was going on with Praz Michael, with the Fugees and
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  Speaker 1: this Asian fund that these people were embezzling money from.
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  Speaker 1: So apparently Russell Simmons is saying that Kamora sold some
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  Speaker 1: of his stock shares to pay for her now ex-husband's
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  Speaker 1: legal defense. In that particular case. So it's fucking wild.
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  Speaker 1: These people, this shit is deep. All of it is
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  Speaker 1: real deep. And it's just crazy to watch it play out,
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  Speaker 1: unfold right before your eyes. You just got to be
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  Speaker 1: paying attention. But girl, this is stupid, real stupid internet
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  Speaker 1: news now. So this man actually, I saw this on
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  Speaker 1: social media. One of my favorite Instagram pages, mindset.therapy. So
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  Speaker 1: this man commented on his own wanted poster on fucking Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: So this is from Richland, Washington Police Department. It says
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  Speaker 1: wanted Wednesday. They have this thing called wanted Wednesday. Anthony Akers, 38,
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  Speaker 1: is wanted by the Department of Corrections for failure to comply.
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  Speaker 1: If you have any information, call. This fool comments and says,
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  Speaker 1: Calm down. I'm going to turn myself in. Look, they
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  Speaker 1: replied back like, hey, Anthony, we haven't seen you yet.
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  Speaker 1: Our business hours are 8 to 5, Monday through Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, if you need a ride, you can call non-emergency, 509-628-0333,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll pick you up.
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  Speaker 2: Relax. Y'all ain't got to post my picture. I'm coming.
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  Speaker 1: He replies back and says, Thank you. Tying up a
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  Speaker 1: couple loose ends since I will probably be in there
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  Speaker 1: for a month. Should be in there in the next
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  Speaker 1: 48 hours. And five days later, they come in and
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  Speaker 1: say he has turned himself in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, at least he's a stand-up guy, you know? I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't comment shit. Y'all just gonna have to find me.
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  Speaker 2: That's y'all job.
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  Speaker 1: Period. Y'all gonna have to do y'all job. I'm about
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  Speaker 1: to help you.
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  Speaker 2: So, I don't know if you saw this, but There's
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  Speaker 2: a podcast by Megan James called Hollywood Group Chat Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And she had Johnny Blaze on. And during the interview,
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  Speaker 2: she says to Johnny Blaze, like, something along the lines
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  Speaker 2: about her still being a crackhead. And if she's no
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  Speaker 2: longer a crackhead, pretty much to prove it, and she
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  Speaker 2: pulls out a drug test. And then she calls to
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  Speaker 2: the makeup artist and is like, what's your name? She
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  Speaker 2: going to go in the bathroom with you to do
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  Speaker 2: this drug test. And, um.
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  Speaker 1: That stank.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the video. Right. When it... The video posted, like,
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  Speaker 2: people was dragging, raking Megan James over the coals, baby.
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  Speaker 2: They was coming for her about, how she was coming
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  Speaker 2: at Johnny Blaze. And Johnny Blaze responded saying basically people
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  Speaker 2: be trying her and doing her any kind of way.
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  Speaker 2: But then Megan James came back and said, like, you
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  Speaker 2: asked me to give you this drug test, and you
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  Speaker 2: begged me to come on this show, and it's crazy
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  Speaker 2: that you would allow people to drag me like this
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  Speaker 2: when this whole thing was your idea. So I get
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  Speaker 2: both perspectives, but maybe it was Megan James' delivery that
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  Speaker 2: was just kind of off-putting. It was her whole attitude.
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  Speaker 1: It was stink. You know what I'm saying? Yes, this
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  Speaker 1: is a guess. No matter... how she ended up there.
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  Speaker 1: She's a guest. It's almost like she brought her up
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  Speaker 1: there to embarrass her. I saw the videos. It got
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  Speaker 1: to a point where Johnny was like, pass me my
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  Speaker 1: cell phone. Can you record what's going on? You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Can you stream what's going on? Because
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  Speaker 1: she was clearly uncomfortable. I don't think she deserved to
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  Speaker 1: be treated like that. I've met her before in the
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  Speaker 1: actual strip club in Houston. Very nice girl back in
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  Speaker 1: the day. She was much smaller, cute, fine as hell,
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  Speaker 1: bitches in there, on her fucking head. Nice girl.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she deserves to be treated like that.
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  Speaker 2: She's highly talented.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She's very talented. And you know, it surprised me because
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  Speaker 2: she is a fighter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised.
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  Speaker 2: She's just, that's why I felt like maybe she was
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  Speaker 2: in on it because why are you letting this girl
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  Speaker 2: call you a crackhead?
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  Speaker 1: Trying to have a viral moment. They got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They got what they asked for. I'm not doing anything
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  Speaker 1: for TV, man.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Not at the expense of somebody's, you know, feelings,
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not trying to hurt nobody to get a
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  Speaker 2: viral moment. It's not that deep.
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  Speaker 1: But it may also be Johnny Blaze trying to get
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  Speaker 1: the viral moment as well. They're talking about her now.
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  Speaker 1: They're talking about Megan James. That may have been the goal.
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  Speaker 1: It may not have been delivered in a way that
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Blaze anticipated it for.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was the goal. It was the goal
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  Speaker 2: to vindicate herself of the drug rumors.
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  Speaker 1: But She was sniffing coke online, dog. I saw it.
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  Speaker 1: She was on live sniffing coke. I saw that shit
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  Speaker 1: with my own eyes, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Rick James said cocaine is a hell of a drug, so.
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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: It's not safe anymore, though, guys. Be careful. If you
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  Speaker 2: like to party, get you some Narcan or something. Keep
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  Speaker 2: it close by.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing that did happen, so I'm at my mom's, right?
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  Speaker 1: And I hear some voices, so apparently my cousin... And
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  Speaker 1: her daughter came over. Like, my cousin, she's 60-something years old. Recently,
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  Speaker 1: she did overdose. She made it.
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  Speaker 2: 60 years old, overdosing?
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  Speaker 1: 65.
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  Speaker 2: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: She might be, yeah, 65. Just last year, another cousin
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  Speaker 1: of mine actually died in her home.
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  Speaker 2: From cocaine?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they were doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I hear her. I mean, like, listen.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't judge people life choices. You know, I can't,
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  Speaker 1: I can't feel for your life more than you do.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever your choices are, I'm happy for you. That's
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  Speaker 1: really where I'm at. You know what I'm saying? I'm not,
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  Speaker 1: I'm no longer into defending myself against people and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to put anybody in a position to defend
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  Speaker 1: how they choose to live their lives anymore. But I
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  Speaker 1: was cracking the fuck up because I heard her say
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  Speaker 1: all this time. I know I had a bad heart.
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  Speaker 1: like girl you been smoking crack like I'm 39 like
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  Speaker 1: you been smoking crack my whole life what do you
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  Speaker 1: mean you thought your heart was gonna stay good all the.
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  Speaker 2: Time well do crack affect the heart I would assume.
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  Speaker 1: So if it didn't affect it the last 39 years
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: this 40th year is gonna affect it girl cause fentanyl
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  Speaker 1: out here you gotta figure something else out I need
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: you to get you some gummies ayahuasca something else to
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  Speaker 1: feed the thing because you gonna get the fuck up
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  Speaker 1: out of here if you don't yeah I agree You
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  Speaker 1: got to make a choice right now with these people
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  Speaker 1: who choose. Y'all obviously playing Russian roulette for real. You
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  Speaker 1: just waiting on your turn. Crack is wet. Waiting on
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  Speaker 1: your moment. Anyway, y'all. Okay, this week's episode, it started
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  Speaker 1: off talking about singleness. Okay, because we're sick of men
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  Speaker 1: in particular telling black women they're going to live and
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  Speaker 1: die alone. Even if you get married, nine times out
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  Speaker 1: of ten, you're going to die a widow anyway. So
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  Speaker 1: men are always getting taken care of, so y'all can
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  Speaker 1: just shut the hell up. Anyway, but somehow the argument,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, not an argument.
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  Speaker 2: No, you said it right.
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  Speaker 1: But somehow the fucking episode took a major turn, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go ahead and put it out because, listen,
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  Speaker 1: it's real. It's shit that goes on in business, friendships,
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  Speaker 1: your love life. You're going to fucking argue. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Like to hear it, here it goes. What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in for a new episode of
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  Speaker 1: We Talk Back TV.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Tam? Hey, girl. Hey, y'all. Thank y'all for
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  Speaker 2: coming back.
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  Speaker 1: I got to stop saying am. Why do I do that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a black girl thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. Don't stop.
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  Speaker 1: So we did have a good time at the... Kerwin
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  Speaker 1: Claiborne comedy show. This nigga is so funny.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody on the lineup was funny. It was a really
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  Speaker 2: good show. I enjoyed myself.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember the other comedians' names. I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I did follow them on Instagram, though, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember their names.
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  Speaker 2: One's name was Jessie. One's name was Hootie. Wody. Wody.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: Wody. Wody. And then the other one guy, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get the other guy.
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  Speaker 1: All I know his t-shirt said, I'm a superhero to
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  Speaker 1: my kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good. I love that. All of them
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  Speaker 2: were really good. And then, of course, Kerwin Claiborne was
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  Speaker 2: just amazing.
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  Speaker 1: He's so funny. He's just funny for no damn reason, man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like, it's like you almost get tired of
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  Speaker 1: people being that funny. Like, go, man.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel like laughing no more. Like my face hurt, right?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like laughing no more.
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  Speaker 2: Like this morning, I felt like I did crunches last night.
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  Speaker 2: Because my abs from contracting from laughing. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, I want to do an episode today
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  Speaker 1: to talk about singleness. And why it seems like women
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  Speaker 1: are shunned for being single for some reason. All while
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  Speaker 1: men is like, you know, I'm outside. It's cool for
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  Speaker 1: men to be outside, but.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel shunned by people? Like people are saying
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  Speaker 2: things to you? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Like the older you get now, listen, and social media
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: be ripping us a whole new one. Oh, yeah.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I try not to. Anytime I actually go read those comments.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: How do you feel?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: How does it make you feel?
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll be offended and I'll be like, oh, I'm
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: about to go cuss this motherfucker out.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Because we talk back, bitch, because who you talking to?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Right, and I will go to your page and rip
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: you to shreds, right? But then sometimes, some of them
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: be funny. Like, I'll laugh because I know I don't,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not no skinny girl, but I ain't
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: no refrigerator. Like, that's a bit of a stretch, sir.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You know, so I'm looking on social media. I'm like, wait,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't comment on this person thing. Like I'm thinking
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm on my page. But y'all is Tam ass comment
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: for the podcast page on a nigga's personal page.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Talk about his ass. You're ugly. Your hairline fucked up.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: You got to do that to people.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I almost want to start like screenshot people and then
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: posting them on a page and roasting the fuck out
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: their ass.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I swear I want to do that because do it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: What's your mama looking like? What's your first baby mama
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: looking like?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Why are you coming over here to just be mean?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: If you don't like what we're saying, okay, it's one thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: But you're just coming over here to assassinate our bodies
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: and all these things. For what reason?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And that's another thing women can't do that men can.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Women can't be ugly, but men can be. That's another
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: thing I don't understand. What do you see when you
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: look in the mirror, sir?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It gives you all this confidence. The audacity of that
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: nigga to come over there and talk shit about us.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I think society teaches women to like over judge themselves.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. They placed value in what we look like, right?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Our greatest value is in our appearance. And in men,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: their greatest value is in their possessions. You know, what
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: can they afford?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: So they feel like they can be ugly as long
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: as they're rich. And we can be rich as long
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: as we're beautiful.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Girl, these guys on the internet are not rich. These
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: are not rich niggas that's in the comments. Rich men
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: do not have time to come on our page to comment.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And look, I'm going to be clear. It's cool if
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: y'all come talk shit on the page. I've already said this.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But you got to follow. We have to get that
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: social digital currency. You're not just going to come over
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: here and talk shit and not follow our page at
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the same time.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: It's just weirdo behavior.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Even, like, when I comment on someone else's page, like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: if I make a comment and you got motherfuckers commenting
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: crazy shit, I never comment on anybody's comment unless I'm
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: in agreeance. If I don't agree with it, I just
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: keep scrolling.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Like, why are you here? I'm confused.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Child, because they ain't got shit else to do.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I'm confused.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Say what you want to say, but just know that
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: if I'm bored... I will come on your page.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: If I got fucking time.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And rip you apart for fun.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: A nigga was like two tons of fun on a
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: picture where we look fucking immaculate.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Like what are you talking about? First of all, we
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: could slip.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And slide across all y'all forehead if we feel like it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Okay. And you're going to let us. Period. Not slip
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and slide across the forehead.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Slip and slide across the nigga forehead. And they're going
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to let us. So you over there talking shit. I'm confused.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So are you happy single?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, because I'm out of like I'm not going to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: say fresh out of relationship because it's almost going to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: be what a year and a half and a minute.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So it's not fresh. But I had been in relationships
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: for like a decade.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, like, you know, I don't drink. is now
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that I don't want to call it waste of time
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: because I feel like only women like equate like relationship
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: time like it's a waste when they don't get what
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: they want at the end of the day but you
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: learn something from it so now I know exactly what
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I want and I know exactly what I don't want
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So now when I see that thing I don't want,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I can leave it quicker.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: As opposed to before, like I'm sitting in a relationship
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: of five years, unfulfilled, unhappy.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So I think now I'm more equipped to get into
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: a better relationship because I know for sure now I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: want a fucking happy man. Because I'm genuinely happy. Generally
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: happy even when my life looking stupid. Like I'm a
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: happy person. But if you're dealing with a man who's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: not content with who he is, he's going to make sure...
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Your ass unhappy, too.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I remember my ex-boyfriend, I used to come home from
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: work and I used to be like, hey, baby. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: he'd be like, what the fuck you so happy about, y'all? Ooh,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: that's a demon. I just seen you eight hours ago. Like, damn,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I've never seen someone so miserable to be happy.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: That's a demon. Like, imagine.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: He used to get mad at me for being happy.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: But am I happy single right now? I'm happy with
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: me single. I'm not happy to be single anymore. I
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: think I'm ready to have a relationship. And it dawned
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: on me more here recently when I was trying to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: plan my 25th birthday celebration. For the fifth time. Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: For the tenth time.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Go on.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And I realized that I didn't have a bae. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: didn't have anyone to, like, go on vacation with. That
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: is not true.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Women always have someone.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have someone, but I didn't have anyone that
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I loved to go on vacation with. Or, yeah, so
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: it was just like, ugh, this is kind of sad.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And then sometimes, like, I'll be content all day, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: then I'll walk in the house, and I'm like, making
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: my dinner and I'm making my dinner for one and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting in there eating my little dinner on
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: my little tray table watching from on Prime or some
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: shit like that.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've watched that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: It's good. Yeah, I like it. And I realized, damn,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I'm in here doing this every night by myself. It's not,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I don't like that. And like the options are out there, right?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: The options are out there and I entertain here and
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I entertain there, but Maybe my picker is broken. That's
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: what my grandma used to say. Your picker broken? Yeah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I pick wrong sometimes, I think.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I think we all pick wrong because sometimes we're just
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: attracted to the opposite. Well, I don't even say that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like usually when you date somebody, you see
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit of you in them. That's why you
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: end up fucking with them in the first place. But
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: maybe it's a part of you that you need to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: improve on. Why you keep picking this particular type of person.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I'm a dog, I'm a dog, I'm a dog, I'm
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a dog. I can be.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I can be a dog, man. That's why I have
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of empathy. That's why cheating is not the end.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: My next relationship, I really want somebody who let me flirt.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That's all I want to do.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to smash nobody else. I just want
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to still get niggas to buy me drinks at the club.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Like, when I hang out once a month with my homegirl.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think men would like that, though. You know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: any man who has, like, ego, which most do. Get
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: rid of your damn ego. Yeah, ego death, right?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that's the thing, especially with black men.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I can't speak to black men. It ain't coming out
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: of his pocket.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Like, he should be happy that he don't have to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: give me money to go to the club.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Well, probably most men would be like, They don't mind
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: paying for their girl's drinks to not be in the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: nigga face, right?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: It's just more like, can I get it? Can I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: do it?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You want to make sure you still got it. Yes.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when people was dragging... Aisha Curry. Yes,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: when people were dragging Aisha Curry because she said she...
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Women want to feel wanted. Men like to refer to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: shit in the Bible, right? So the Bible says... Man
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: should not be alone, right? So he created a woman
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: from the rib. You know the creation story, right? And
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: then he also said for a man to love woman
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: as Christ loved the church. It don't say nothing about
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a woman loving a man. Women have to feel loved.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Women have to feel wanted. So if you're not making
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: your woman feel wanted, you've got so familiar with her,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and she's now seeking validation from other men, That's your fault.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: That's your fault.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, AJ. Here's the thing. I feel like
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: we could, you know, quote in the Bible, we could
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: probably find somewhere where it says a woman should love
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: her husband in there somewhere. No, it's not in there.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Nowhere in the Bible does it say that a woman
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: should love?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It says man should love the woman as Christ loved
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the church. It don't really say.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And that's the only place in the Bible they speak
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: of love?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: No.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I'm sure we need a pastor. Yeah,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: tell us in the comments.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Let us know. Because the question is going to come out.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I bet you they won't prove me wrong.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to see what happens.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Women are to be loved.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I think men are to be loved, too. I think
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: we are all to be loved.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're not, like, men. But why do
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: we have to grow.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: To love them, though? What do you mean?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Oftentimes, when women get married, because they're tired of being single...
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: They find somebody because we will never be single if
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: we don't want to be. Let's take, for instance, the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: girl that's on Marriage After Lockup or whatever.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: What's the name of the show? The Monique girl, right?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And we'll get into what the fuck she got going
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: on with her ex-boyfriend, Derek. But even though people will
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: talk shit about her aesthetically, right? That woman can still
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: get a man. All women can get a man. Can
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: we say that all men can get a woman?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Do they got $ 40? I feel like everybody can get somebody, right? Everybody. Even,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I've seen, remember them people with them nasty teeth they
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: was in there kissing on Instagram? Like, went viral. And
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: they looked like they was in love. Everybody can get somebody.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Man and woman, I think. You just gotta stay in
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: your holler level, that's all.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Right, right. But why is it that women catch hell
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: from other women? You catch on from your granny for
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: being single? Your mama?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: My grandma used to tell everybody I was a lesbian.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: She used to talk shit about me.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Y'all, I remember one time. This was back when the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Kangol hats were. Yes, you are.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I am not. It wasn't a Kangol hat, but it
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: was the Kangol style of hat. And I had it
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: on with this little vest. I look really cute. This
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: was a cute little outfit I had on. And I came.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: That's what you thought. I really did look cute. It
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: was such a cute look. People were telling me I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: looked cute that day because it had, like, the railroad
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: kind of pattern in it. It was really cute. So
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I got home, and I got out the car, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: my sister, my grandma, and my sister's best friend, Niecy,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: they was standing under a tree, right, just catching some shade.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And my grandma was like, hey, baby. I said, hey, grandma.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And I kept walking. And I said, hey, y'all. And
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: they was like, hey. And then I kept walking. All
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: of them bust out laughing real loud. So I looked
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: back and it was like, hey, right? So, you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you can tell when somebody talking about you, right? So
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: then finally my sister came in the house. I said,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: what grandma said about me? Because I know it was
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: my grandma. She said, as soon as you turn your back,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: she said. And started like tilting her head side to side.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And I was like, grandma, why are you telling people
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gay? She was like, well, you got on that
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: gay hat. Just because of a hat? You ain't got
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: no man.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Uh-uh. See, like why?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: So a woman is, we ain't shit unless we attached
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to a man. Gay hat and no man equals gay.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I thought about this topic because I thought about this
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: topic because in our comments on social media, and I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: also see this on other women's social medias, especially people
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: who are in the podcast world. Like that's the go-to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys. Y'all ain't got no man. Listen,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: this is fucking entertainment. I got niggas.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And I can choose one when I want to. Every
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: woman I feel like can. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So imagine you thinking you know my life because of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: this internet shit. And even the guy friends who I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: have platonic relationships with, I'm an amazing person.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: They love me. Like I have a lot of people,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys that love me.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Y'all niggas don't know us. Right. That's the bottom line.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you have like a lot of
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: platonic relationships with men?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And some people I may have been intimate with
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: at some point. You know what I'm saying? And some not. Yeah.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I find it hard for me to sustain healthy platonic
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: relationships with men. Why? Because they always try to fuck
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: at some point.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Well, they say that women can't have male friends because
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: niggas try to fuck at some point.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Men just don't have integrity, man. Because I feel like
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: if I call any of my platonic, like, it could be.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. If I call them and be like, hey, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: want to give you this pussy today, they're going to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: take it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. I have one friend here, like, I just,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I love him so much as my friend. But I
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: can't be his friend. Because anytime we hang out, he
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: be like, let's get married tomorrow. You know, basically, like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: on that level.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: But don't we say that, oh, your mate should be
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: your friend? Don't we say that?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't see him in that light. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: see him like a brother, not someone that I... could
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: be intimate with.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: You know what's weird? Because as soon as a man
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: makes up in his mind that he likes you in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that way, it's like you automatically supposed to like him
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: like that. As if we don't have preference.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: And he's like, why we don't hang out no more?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to be like, because you can't
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: keep it. player you know like just keep it cool
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: we friends i want to be.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Your friend he like throw out a little sexual and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: doing indie windows and stuff like that yeah he'd be like.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Let me hold your feet let me rub your feet
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: and i'm like nigga chill let's smoke this blood and
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: watch this basketball game and they get like what's up
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: like i don't want you to rub my feet you
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: know like even though i would love my feet rub
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: i don't want to take advantage of what this is
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: and it's not that you know mm-hmm That would be
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: fucked up to be letting a nigga I don't care
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: about in that way just be rubbing on my feet
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: and shit like that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: You might fuck around and fall on some dick.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want that. Get somebody else to do it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Fuck around and fall on some dick.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: You just got to be careful. I had to learn
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the hard way about how you handle people when it
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: comes to people's emotions and things like that with men.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I don't want to play with nobody. And I don't
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: want to give any false ideas about what this could be.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Because you fuck around and have somebody stalking your ass.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a fun girl. I can't pretend like
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I like you just for, like, things and attention.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I can't pretend.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I used to be.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Able to a long time ago, like, in my 20s.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I definitely went on a trip with a guy, been
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: on trips with guys that, like, I kind of like.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I like them. I don't like them like them.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting myself in a close setting with anybody
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I don't like.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: No, like, it was never no, but, like, I've never
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: been out with, like, somebody, like, I didn't like at all.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't like, oh, he's so amazing, I just
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: want to hang out with him. It was like, he's cool,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of great things that come with him.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: You've never had that?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I wouldn't play with him in that way,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: because I'll get annoyed real quick.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to play.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, me neither. Now that I got my own money....
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, got it, bitch. This is before the money.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is broke, young, broke bitch energy. I was
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: in my 20s. Who got a lot of money in there?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I actually had more money in my 20s, bitch.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I swear to God, yes.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Balling like a bitch in my 20s.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I remember being so broke one time in college. Me
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and my homegirl went and got a 4-4-4. And I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: think we split that bitch.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Bruh. That's how poor I was, bitch. I'm talking about
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: some broke bitch shit.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Bitch, I'm calling my mama. Thank God for growth. Thank
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: God for growth in the name of Jesus.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. So what is.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Single shaming.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: It's such a thing.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: There's a thing. Like, you ain't got no man. Your
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: pussy must be trash. Like, that's single shaming, right?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? You ain't shit. What's wrong with you?
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: As if it's something that needs to be fixed because
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I say I'm single.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But it's nothing wrong. Is there any truth to it, though?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: What needs to be fixed? I feel like while you're
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: in your single.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Your attitude.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: While you're in your singleness, let's be clear, bitch... While
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: you're in your singleness, everybody can take time for themselves
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and identify all their strengths, weaknesses, maybe things that– because
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: it's not always the man, right?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: So there's things that may be about you in your.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Regular relationships and or friendships, right, that people can improve on.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: In your singleness, you can kind of highlight those things
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and work on them for your next relationship.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I know one thing that I've had to learn to–
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: adjust to be in a healthy relationship is my mouth.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I know this is we talk back, but sometimes I
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: can shut the fuck up.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I know when to shut the fuck up. Oftentimes, like,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you know, you could pick your battles.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: There was a time I didn't know.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: He'd be like, say one more thing and I swear
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I'm going to choke the shit out of you.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: And I'd be like, one more thing.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Now I know what to cry for. Unhand me. Now
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I shut my mouth.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I just be quiet. I won't even address like something
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: that's just not worth the choke. But I feel like
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: it just depends on the man you're dealing with.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? If he's capable of being
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: normal when you choose not to say some shit, I
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: feel like sometimes some people, like, they have to say
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: something to you to evoke this thing out of you. Like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like something shows up in them, right? So
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: when you're trying to be different to avoid a situation,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to avoid an argument, something still shows up in them
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to evoke this thing out of you to make you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: want to jump kick them.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: But it's like, poke the bear. Poke the beer. Yes.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Poke the beer. Tammy, poke the beer.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking about.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the thing. Sometimes, no, with your ass. No, bitch,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: you be poking the beer. Let's be clear. Sometimes you
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: be mad, just already mad.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not true.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Girl, yesterday.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Girl, yesterday, that's not true.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: You was.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Girl, yesterday.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I was half asleep and I woke up to an argument.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I was awake.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: You didn't wake up to no argument.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You text me an argument.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: You didn't wake up to an argument. You read that
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: in argument tone. So we about to.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Do this on the episode. Might as well. Let's go
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: ahead and do it right quick. Y'all, this ain't even
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: about singleness no more. Let's do this right quick for
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the episode. Imagine this. Let me tell a whole story
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: right quick. Y'all, we are recording in Charlotte now. Y'all
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: know I live in.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Charleston, South Carolina.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Carolina, right? Which is three hours from Charlotte. It might
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: take me exactly three, matter of fact, it takes three
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: hours and 15 minutes to get to Tammy's doorstep. Tammy
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: lives five minutes from where we record at, right? So
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I don't need to stay at Tammy's house, but it's
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: convenient for the both of us, right? So we can
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: get together, do our show, orchestrate our content, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I woke up at 4 a.m., right? To get from
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Charleston to Charlotte. Even while talking about this right now,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I'm getting fucking anxiety.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Right?
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. So, I wake up about 4 o'clock in the morning.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I drive to Charlotte. Yes, I told Tammy the day
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: before that I'd be at 9 o'clock. But in my mind,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not a hairdresser appointment. 8 and 9 is the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: same time as far as I'm concerned if I'm just
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: arriving at a friend's house.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: So, if I decided to come an hour early... Right. Arbitrarily,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: if I didn't communicate with you or not, I'm calling, calling, calling, calling, calling.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: You didn't answer. That's fine. I did arbitrarily make the
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: executive decision that I needed to get here sooner, earlier
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: to make sure I was on time for our guest.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: So whether or not I communicated that to you or not,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that's what I needed to do for us in our business. Right.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: So I did that. I got here. Tammy wasn't answering.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I called my niece. I called a couple other people.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: They weren't answering. I immediately went on Expedia to book
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a hotel room because I got money, right? I always
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: got fuck you money. So even if I couldn't get
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: my people on the phone so I can get to
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: where I'm going, so I can.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Be here on time, I have other options.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: That was it, right? So while I was in Whole
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Foods peeing, because I'm sitting in your garage for 30 minutes,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I went to Whole Foods, used the bathroom. One of
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: my guy friends called me back. Come on over here,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I'll leave the key, blah, blah, blah. I go there,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: get dressed, dah, dah, dah, dah. I'm cool. Tammy calls
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: me while I'm already five minutes from his house at
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: this point, right? So we talk, we even move past
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: her not waking up, right? We're now talking about the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: show and what we're gonna do for the episode, because
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: now it's just a couple hours before our guest.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I get out.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: The shower at my friend's house and I see a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: text message from Tammy that came after we had our
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: phone conversation. And Tammy knows I don't like passive-aggressive stuff.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: It wasn't.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: That is, if we've already spoke about it, why are
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you texting me after we hang up? We already hung up.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Can I respond?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: No, I want to tell the full story.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: So I get out the shower, and this is the
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: text message I have from Tammy. Now, mind you, all
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I said to Tammy was, hey, I was outside. I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: didn't feel no type of way because now I've already
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: organized my life. I'm past you not answering the phone
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: at this point.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Right? So I get out the shower... And my text
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: message from Tammy was, going to Kenneth's house was a
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: bigger waste of time being that I'm five minutes from
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: the studio. I'm just singing. you're just saying nothing when
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: you're literally calling me while I'm five minutes away from
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: where I'm heading to. The same time it took for
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: me to drive to his house is the same time
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: how long it took for you to even call me.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: So sending me this text message was really irrelevant because one,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you don't know where Kenneth lives. You don't know how
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: far he is. Two, I still arrived earlier than you
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: having to have drive 20 minutes out the way, which
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I was fine with because I made the executive decision
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: for me, for us, for our show, to make sure
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I was situated so that I can be here on time. Now,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: at this point, it has nothing to do with you.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So sending me this message when you know how.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I am, right? I would love to respond. Go ahead.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you will in a minute.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Because you've been talking a long time.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Sending me this message. You wanted to evoke something in me.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: So you guys, I'm literally half asleep. I went to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: bed a little later. I knew she was coming at 9.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: So I said, I'm going to set my alarm for 8.30.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Set my alarm for 8.30. I had a bunch of
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: missed calls from her. She said, I'm going to Kenneth's house.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: We talked on the phone. The conversation was amicable. We
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: didn't argue. Right. You wasn't upset.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: So when I sent that message, I was just saying,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: maybe you should just come here since it's so close.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Come here from where, though? Listen, no, I didn't interrupt you.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Allow me. Do you understand what's happening? Don't interrupt me.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Don't interrupt me.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Just make sure you follow.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Hold on. No, no, no. I just want to make
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: sure Jordan follows.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: He's listening. Okay, all right.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Don't interrupt. So I sent the message like, I don't know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: like she says, I don't know how far Kenneth's house is.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I know how close my house is to the studio.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: So I sent that message like, don't waste any more
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: time going over there. Just come back to here because
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I'm so close. I'm just saying. It wasn't nasty. It
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: didn't have any, I wasn't trying to evoke anything. I
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: was just trying to make both of our lives easier.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I thought it would be beneficial for us to be
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: in the same space because we had a guest coming.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: That was it. For her to feel like I was
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: attacking her or saying anything mean or gaslighting was something
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: just inside her. That's how I felt. We were cool
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: on the phone. Why would I come at you negative
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden? What does it do for me
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: to come at you right now? I live five minutes
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: from the studio. I'm going to get there before the
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: show is fine. I don't have to get your, I
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: can get dressed here. Everything is cool. What is the
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: point in gaslighting you? I just sent you that message saying, Hey,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: you don't have to go there. My house is open
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to you and it's close. I'm just saying, but you
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: took it such a different way than I was sending it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: And I don't know why you always perceive me as
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: trying to come for you. It wasn't that for what?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. Do y'all understand? Do you understand Jordan? Cause this we're,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: we're recording this, but our videographer is here, right? Imagine
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you're already where you're headed to and get this message.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: What's the point of even sending that message if I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: already situated?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know that you're situated.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You did because when I got off the phone with
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you because.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I missed my exit talking to you.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: You said you missed your exit. And I was five
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: minutes from his house.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You don't know nothing. So why'd
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you send me that message? I was just saying, I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: five minutes from the studio.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Just come here.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: You're telling me I'm wasting time doing something when I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: wasted my time waking up early. I wasted my time
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: sitting in your garage for 30 minutes. But that wasn't
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: my fault, though. That was more of a waste of
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: time than me just going on to the next place.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: But whose fault was that?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: It was no one's fault. So what's the purpose of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the message?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: So why are you so angry?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: But what's the... If our message was amicable, come here
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: from where, Tammy?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Wherever you are right now.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: How does that make sense when I already still gotta
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: get dressed? And I'm already getting out the show. Because
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I'm five minutes from the studio. I was just trying
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to help.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: What is happening?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Do you understand that? Imagine.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Jerry, what do you think, honestly?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, tell us.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I'm with the interpretation of a text message. It can,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: because communication goes out one way and we interpret it thousands.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And I do get it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: But We can't say that her intent was to... Perception. Perception. Mm-hmm.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: How you perceive things. Mm-hmm.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Both of y'all are right, but, I mean, it is.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, both didn't know what she didn't know.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Right. Absolutely. So then when she calls me, she calls
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: me yelling and screaming.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't call you initially yelling and screaming.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: When I called you, you were.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: You sent me a nasty message back. Okay, let me
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: tell y'all.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Let me read y'all.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to read this full stuff right quick. We
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: can go ahead and use the rest of the episode
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: for this shit.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: All right. I.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Tammy texts me, going to Kenneth's house was a bigger
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: waste of time being that I'm five minutes from the studio.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: To me in my mind, you're just saying that to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: say nothing because I'm already situated.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I'm getting dressed.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be on time. Don't worry about me
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: at this point. I'm good, right? And you already said
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: our conversation on the phone was amicable. Nobody was, why
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: did you have to send this message? So my response
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: to Tammy was, Tammy, leave it alone. Arriving earlier was
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a waste of time. You do realize I was already
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: headed there because I couldn't reach you. I could have
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: gotten an extra 45 minutes of sleep myself.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: That's the truth.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Right. And the next thing I said was, I have
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: made preparations for you. I said I would have made
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: preparations for you if it were the other way around.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Let's be clear. And let me clarify what that is.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: If I that's not nasty. See, that's your perception of my.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Let's be clear.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Let's be clear. It's not.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: How did I not make preparations?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If I live, Tammy lives in a
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: high rise in Charlotte. Right. So they have a concierge,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. There's different there's things you have to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: do to get into the building. If the shoe were
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: on the other foot and she was coming to my house,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: no matter what time Tammy got there, she'd have access.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: That's just the truth. It doesn't matter if I told
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, if y'all know military time.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter. You'd have access to get into the place.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I would not have to get up because I would
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: have made preparations. That's just how I am, right? I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: would have not had to make sure my phone is
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: by my air because Tammy calls me at 8.30 a.m.,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I called your phone 10 times. Concierge called you twice.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: You told me you were coming at 9, so I
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: made preparations to be up before you came.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: But you wake up at 8. Is your phone on
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: silent until 8.30?
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Do not disturb. And I set my alarm for 8.30
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: because I knew you were coming at 9.00. So I
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: would be up before you got there.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, and that's fine. I wasn't tripping. I went on
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: with my life. But you said like I didn't make
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: preparation for you. You sent me this text message, did
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: send me over the edge when I'm waking up.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: But why though?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Because I had been up from 4 o'clock in the morning.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: But you act like I did that to you.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: You chilling.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't do nothing to you though.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Tammy, it's for us though. I'm coming here because it's
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: convenient for us. Do you understand that? I understand that.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: But what did I do to you, though? What you
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: did was send me that text message, which you could
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: have saved it, right? Because you're not having to do
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: nothing extra for this show. I got up, I got
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: here for us to record.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: You're treating me like that's my fault, like I did
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: something wrong. That is not true.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: That's absolutely not true. What you did wrong was told
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: me what I could have done differently when all I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: did was wake up an hour earlier and got here
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: an hour.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: All I did.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: was got hair earlier.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: That's all I did. And all I did was sleep
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: until the time we agreed to. And that's fine.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not tripping. I'm not.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: But.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Clearly you were upset about it because why did that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: message set you off so much? Because why are you
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: telling me what I could have done differently?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Because you could have also done something differently too. Made
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: sure your friend was able... our business parts friend and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: or business partner right tried to do that had access
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to do whatever they need to do because it is
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: convenient for us to do things together at the same.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Time and i tried to and i tried to do
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: that for you by getting up 30 minutes.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Earlier okay call me so that there is no miscommunication
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: we both have Each other's thing.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. And I'm going to ask that you
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: not hang up in my face anymore. Don't do it anymore.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: It's rude. It's disrespectful.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Girl, you have hung up.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: When?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Several times.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: When?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all, in business, listen, it's just different.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: You could be friends with people, but when you get
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: into business with people, it's different.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Can you agree not to hang up in my face?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and I won't hang up in yours.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I will not. No, I'm not going to agree to that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Because I'm not going to sit on the phone.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: See, that's the problem. I'm not going to sit on
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: the phone and continue.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: To go into a circle.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I'm a nigga, and this is my baby mama, y'all.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: That's not true.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're a nigga.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: You're a nigga. Because why wouldn't you agree to not
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: doing it to each other? No, because what I do,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I believe that in arguments... People have to step back.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: So we're not in a building together. We're on the phone, right?
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: If I see that I'm not going to get a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: solid solution out of this conversation, I'm going to hang
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: up and step back. I'm not going to sit on
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: the phone and keep going in a circle when we
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: have limited time at this point to get dressed.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: You can say, hey, I don't feel like this conversation
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: is going anywhere. Girl, I said, girl, I'm going. And
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hang up.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Once I say I'm going, I'm hanging up.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: You just hung up in my face.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I said, girl, I got stuff to do. Have a
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: good day. Hung up.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: That's rude. If you don't see a problem with that.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I will do it again. Y'all hear me?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I'll do it again.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a problem the next time.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I'll do it to a boyfriend.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a problem the next time. Because
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not the only.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Person who gets hung up on. Okay, but it's different.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: What's going to happen? We'll see. You don't want to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: fight me because I hung up on you? Let's do it, bitch.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. If we don't.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Have respect for each other.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's disrespectful. I do, though.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's disrespectful because you've hung.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Up on me. I do. And I agree to that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I don't remember doing that, but if I've done it,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I'll say I won't do it anymore because I don't
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: like it done to me. Well, I don't mind if I,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: if I don't mind somebody having to get a moment,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I don't mind that. Okay. Well, you're you and I'm me.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: You have a issue with texts. You want me to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: call you? I said, I'll agree to do that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm asking you to please not hang up in
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: my face because I don't like it. So go.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Let me be an adult right quick.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Y'all.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Going forward, once I'm done talking, I will sit on
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the phone in silence until Tammy is ready to hang
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: up on me. That's what we'll do going forward.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I won't be hanging up on you. So then we're
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: going to be getting dressed, glued to the phone for
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the rest of the time. You see what the behavior is?
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: That's not a behavior. That is just the reality of
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: what will then happen if we don't get off the phone.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I said I won't hang up on you.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Right, so we'll just be on the phone then.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying? No.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: If I'm not going to hang up and you're not
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: going to hang up, so we got to agree to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: hang up.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: We can agree that the conversation is either not going
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: anywhere or it's over. But hanging up in each other's
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: face is not okay.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: So how do we do it?
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: You can say, hey, I feel like this conversation is
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: not going anywhere.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Right now.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Let's reconvene another time. Bye. And we can hang up.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: And I say bye, you say bye, we hang up.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: But just hanging up.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: So let me make sure we get both two byes, right?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Two byes.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: And hang up. Yes. All right. And that's going to
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: make the situation better.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yes. How so? Because the actual issue hasn't been, no resolution.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe then that's fine because we're coming back to it
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: at a later time. But nobody feels disrespected in the
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: end of the conversation. Okay.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I don't feel disrespected when somebody hangs up. Tammy feels
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: disrespected if I hang up on her. I feel disrespected
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: when somebody is insulting my intelligence. That's when I feel disrespected.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: So I get off the phones. You know what I'm saying?
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: If we're going back and forth about the same thing,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: you're not getting me, I'm not getting you. Our brains
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: obviously work different. We have different perceptions in the way
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: we perceive what's happening in many situations, right? And I
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: feel like it's just not, to me, it gives me
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of mental anguish to sit and keep going
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: in a constant circle with somebody where I feel like
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: this is what singleness is, you know? At this point
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: in my life, I don't feel like I'm finding anybody
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: who is on the same mental thing with me.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Because you got to kind of think like the person
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: you fucking with.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: You're not going to find somebody.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: That thinks exactly like you. Why would you want anybody
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that thinks exactly like you? Because even in my friend selection, right?
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I know that in my friend selection, most of the time,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: it's something about them that I see me. That's what
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I was talking about, right? So you see yourself in
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: the people that you deal with, right? But in order
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: to keep down... keep down confusion, you and whoever you
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: deal with, y'all have to have similarities, right? But if
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you're in a situation with somebody where y'all think completely
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: different because you may not see, you don't perceive that
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: text message you sent me the same way I do, right?
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: 20 other people could perceive it in the way I do.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: 20 other people can perceive it in the way you do.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: We clearly have miscommunication issues, right? It's a problem at
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: this point for me because if I'm just going on
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and living my life, all I did was wake up
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: an hour early.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't deserve the text message. Do you ever consider
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: that it might have been valuable to tell me that
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: before you went to sleep? You didn't have to call
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: me back even though we agreed to talk that night.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: it would have been valuable to say, hey, I'm going
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: to go to bed now and I'm going to come earlier.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: So that way I would have set my alarm.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: For 7.30 instead of 8.30. But did I not come prepared, though?
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Because we talked on the phone when I got here.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I told you what I thought about in the meantime, right?
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: It's just, this is why I'm just really, y'all, I'm
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: tired of dealing with humans. It's just so many intricate things.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Little things.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Everybody has a different way of thinking, eating, smoking, drinking,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: whatever the fuck you do. Like everybody has a different
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: way of doing things. And it's fucking tiring.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I feel like if I were you.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Right, and you're already here in Charlotte, right, and I'm
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: in Charleston, right, if I were you, I would just understand.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: That's just because that's just who I am, right?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I would just.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Understand that Tammy need to go to sleep. Because she
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: need to get here in the morning. That's what I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: would understand.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I did understand that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like I don't get the type of grace
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: that I extend to other people. I don't ever.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Nothing was wrong with you going to sleep, but you
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: could have communicated with me. That's all. It would hurt
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: nothing to send me a text saying, hey, I'm going
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: to bed. I'm going to come early.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Right. It wouldn't have hurt, right? But if you didn't
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: do that, say, for instance, you were the one having
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to travel. If you didn't do that and you went
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: ahead and went to sleep, I'd understand. I didn't understand.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't even be a conversation of anything to bring
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: up to tell me what I could have done, to
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: tell you what you could have done differently. I would
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: have just understood.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: What I was just saying is, come over here because
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: it would be convenient.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: You don't know that, though. So you sending me that
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: was just extra icing on top of this nasty cake.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it was a nasty cake.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Tammy, if you have to wake up at 4 o'clock
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: in the morning and drive somewhere and then now you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: have no place to be... I know you. You'd feel
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: some type of way.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: And I just solved my problem, right?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: First of all, I wouldn't feel like I had no
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: place to be because I would know your house was
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: my place to be. Then I also know.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: That- At that moment, I had no place to be
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: sitting in my car.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I also know that I told you a
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: certain time, and now it is before that time, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: she's probably asleep. So I'll just go grab some breakfast
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: or I'll wait.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I went to Whole Foods. That's what I'm saying.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I moved on. Okay, but all of that is understood
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: between both of us. I didn't know it was a
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: nasty cake.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, the nasty cake comes after the text message.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: But I still didn't know it was a nasty cake.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Why are you texting me anything extra if we're past
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: it at this point?
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Past what?
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: We're past me needing to get into your house. We're
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: past that.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: But I didn't know that you, the last thing you
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: said was you were missing your exit. I was just
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: trying to be helpful.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: So now even that, even if I'm on a highway driving, right,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm missing my exit, how annoyed are you when
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: you miss your exit?
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: All right, and you get this message. Misplaced anger.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: How is that misplaced? I'm missing my exit answering the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: phone for you, right? And then I get a message
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: about how I could have done something different because I'm
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: missing my exit now.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Fucking with you.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Like, do you understand what I'm saying?
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Do you hear this?
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Do you hear this?
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I can't win from losing. Let me tell y'all nothing
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I don't like about black men. Okay?
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: These niggas be acting like they.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Don't understand the shit women be going through.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Like, y'all be knowing, but y'all choose to.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I ain't going to get into it. That's woman stuff.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Shut up. I be feeling like I can't win, Jordan.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: That's woman stuff. I sleep the wrong amount of time. Girl,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I don't care about you sleeping. We ain't filming until 12.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I got braids. I ain't got shit to do.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Because your business partner is coming from out of town.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: So I'll be up 30 minutes before she's supposed to
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: be here.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: That should be ample enough time.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: And that's absolutely fine that you weren't, that I got
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: here extra time, right? And I know I got here earlier, right?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: One hour earlier, right?
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Well, technically 30 minutes based off your alarm.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: 30 minutes earlier. No, you got here before that because
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I got up 30 minutes earlier.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Based on your alarm, you called
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: me at 8.30 on the dot. You called me. I
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: was already five.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Minutes from where I needed to be at at this point.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Exactly.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: So why are you sending me this follow-up message?
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Because I wanted to make sure that you were good.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: You'd call me and say, Ashley, you good?
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Simple as that.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: No, simple as that.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I just want to make sure you're good. I'm close
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: to the studio.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Or really, all I needed to hear from Tammy was, girl,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: my bad. I was sleeping. I didn't know you was
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: coming this time.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Period. Period.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: But it's not my bad.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Anything extra is not my bad. Listen, even if you
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: feel like it's not your bad, Tammy, I feel like
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: if none of my friends were to come, even if
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: we're not friends, I feel like if one of my
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: people come to my house or if I didn't show
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: up in a way that I needed to or they
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: felt like I needed to, it is my bad. Every time.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: So I didn't show up in a way you needed to? Oh, God.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I got to be real careful with the words I use. Yeah,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: because I'm trying to understand.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: No. I don't want to say show up like, I'm
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: not saying show up like I need you to. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: never need you. You know what I'm saying?
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I don't need a lot of people. I handle my life.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying? So don't ever think it's
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: like you didn't show up for me in any way.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: That's not what I mean. What I'm saying is if
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: we had something planned, plans change in a little piece
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: of little time.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Plans did not change.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Piece of time, one hour, piece of time. Okay, we
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: going in circles, y'all.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: But y'all get the gist of it. Let us know.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: This is the type of shit that happen in friendships, business, whatever.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Tell me what I did wrong, okay? Please, I would
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: appreciate it because I don't want to do it again.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Keep the extra commentary. That's what you do. Don't do
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that again.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Just keep the extra thing. We already passed it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't extra.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Move on, girl, what you wearing? So we can coordinate.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And then I said, we kind of flowy today. Like, yeah,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: usually you have on a low two-piece number, and I
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: might have on a tracksuit. Like, that's just. Yes. So
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: now here we are. Y'all.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I can't with this woman. I can't with this woman, y'all.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Lord have mercy. I need some.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: This is why I need some dick in my life
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: right here. Ain't you got a rose?
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Tap into the rose. Anyway, we're going to follow up
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: on this thing.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Bitch, I got a whole lot of notes. That was
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the episode, bitch. That was the episode. Say thank you.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: God bless you. Good night.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to post the text messages. That's the next
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: part of it. So then y'all can read them too
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: and interpret it. Let us know what your perception is.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, please.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: How do you perceive these messages? How do you perceive
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the situation after hearing this episode? Y'all, and if you
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it, please tune in every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and fuck you, get your podcast out. This
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: is your co-host, AJ Holiday, 2.0 ZL and Tam.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Y'all, it's beating and better at official Tam Bam on Instagram. Please,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: please follow me. It's in love. Okay? Send me some love, y'all.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Send a motherfucker who can fight. Deuces.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I can fight. Don't play now. I've been in the gym, bitch. Y'all,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: thank y'all for tuning in. Bye.