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9-23: Mike Macdonald with Graham Besinger reaction and Bram Weinstein · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, Seahawks Headquarters Headlines,
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by Frostbrewed Coors Light, as cold as
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  Speaker 2: the Rockies. An excerpt recorded before a main interview by
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  Speaker 2: Graham Benziger that aired recently from the coach's house. Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald said Broncos coach Sean Payton accused the Seahawks of
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  Speaker 2: cheating before the 2024 season opener in Seattle, and that a, quote,
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  Speaker 2: cold war. ensued between the two coaches, with McDonald and
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  Speaker 2: general manager John Schneider at one point threatening to sue Payton.
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  Speaker 2: Much more on this, especially the absolute lack of journalism
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  Speaker 2: ethics here and all across sports journalism coming up. Mariners
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  Speaker 2: are just about officially cooked now, almost officially eliminated from
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  Speaker 2: playoff contention, lost 7-0 to the Trash Cans at the
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  Speaker 2: Yard in Soto last night. It looked like so many
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  Speaker 2: other M's losses this most disappointing season in franchise history,
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  Speaker 2: including what happened here to Logan Gilbert in the third inning.
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  Speaker 2: Christian drives one. High and deep to left field. A three-pointer.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Walker loves the three-run home run. And the Astros
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  Speaker 2: take a 4-0 lead.
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  Speaker 1: Walker with RBIs 81, 82, and 83 on the year.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's Todd Walker, if I remember, still doing
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  Speaker 2: the Houston Astros call on the Astros network. Logan Gilbert
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  Speaker 2: has allowed 25 home runs this season at the Yard
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  Speaker 2: in Soto. That's the most ever. in a season by
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  Speaker 2: a Mariners pitcher inside T-Mobile Park. Gilbert's home runs on
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  Speaker 2: the road, four. 25 at home, four on the road.
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  Speaker 2: That's inexplicable. Much like the Mariners' season, the M's are
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  Speaker 2: five games back at Texas and Houston. Five games remain.
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  Speaker 2: Any trash cans win, any Rangers win, or any Mariners
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  Speaker 2: loss over the season's final five games will eliminate Seattle
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  Speaker 2: game two of the Houston series tonight. The Colorado Rockies
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  Speaker 2: last night became the first team since the 1962 through
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  Speaker 2: 65 New York Mets, that's a minute ago, to have
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  Speaker 2: four consecutive losing seasons with at least 100 losses. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess it could be worse. New York Giants quarterback
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart could miss the rest of the season. Test
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  Speaker 2: on his injured knee. He suffered in the loss to
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  Speaker 2: the Rams Monday night. Showed more damage than the Giants
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  Speaker 2: initially thought. Now on with the Wednesday show. Big Bell,
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  Speaker 2: the News Tribune is down at the Seahawks headquarters here
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  Speaker 2: in Renton and back up at the LA-based studios in
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  Speaker 2: downtown Seattle, Jessamyn McIntyre. Good morning, ma'am.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning. Sorry about the double clutch on the return
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  Speaker 3: of the Mac. I think I wanted to hear it
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  Speaker 3: a little early.
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  Speaker 2: I liked it. Jessamyn has made it a mission of
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  Speaker 2: hers to get Mark Morrison, the artist of Return of
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  Speaker 2: the Mac, on our show. Ooh. Yes, I am.
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  Speaker 4: I have gone up all the crevasses of the various
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  Speaker 4: people that have represented him over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps we can do that. That'd be cool. Yeah, happy
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday to you, wherever you are, listening on the iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 2: app for free or 933KGR. com or on the old terrestrial radio,
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  Speaker 2: 93.3 FM. Man, yesterday, I was getting my foot rooted
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  Speaker 2: out of sea urchin needles and walking boots and all
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  Speaker 2: this other stuff I had going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, you sure got that handled.
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  Speaker 2: Jeez. And then Mike McDonald... The national story became Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald talking to Graham Benziger. We'll talk a little bit
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  Speaker 2: here in the next segment about the media ethics going on,
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  Speaker 2: the journalism ethics of this.
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  Speaker 3: And that was clearly off the record.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And those of us in sports journalism, in any
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  Speaker 2: form of journalism, know what on and off the record is.
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  Speaker 2: He was in his home. If you've seen the clip,
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  Speaker 2: it's a wide shot of a secondary camera. You can
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  Speaker 2: see the production assistant still setting up the, setting and
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  Speaker 2: the sound and the props and the lights and it's
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  Speaker 2: in his home so mcdonald he's just we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: this he admits he's a nerd he admits he's somewhat
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  Speaker 2: socially uncomfortable in settings and public settings and settings of
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  Speaker 2: interviews and especially sit down ones on one-on-one so he
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  Speaker 2: was trying to break the ice there and he said
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  Speaker 2: i got a funny story about sean payton Now, there's
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of questions about how did Graham Bensinger
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  Speaker 2: get to Mike McDonald's house, 10 acres outside Seattle, and
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  Speaker 2: had that entree.
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  Speaker 3: He gets a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really understand his background very well, but he
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  Speaker 4: gets a lot of really amazing guests.
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  Speaker 2: But when he does stuff like this, why? It makes
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  Speaker 2: you think, wait a minute, why? But, yeah, it's interesting,
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  Speaker 2: to say the least, from someone who covers the guy
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  Speaker 2: every single day. If you don't go out and cover
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  Speaker 2: someone every single day, you have no accountability to what
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  Speaker 2: you write or air or telecast. You just do it,
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  Speaker 2: and then you move on to the next guy or gal.
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  Speaker 3: This is like clickbait.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what it was, is just you're doing
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  Speaker 4: it for the clicks and nothing else.
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  Speaker 2: If you have to go back in the next day,
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  Speaker 2: like I do and beat writers do here in Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: and deal with Mike McDonald and the Seahawks, you don't
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  Speaker 2: do that. But Graham Bensinger didn't even know where Seattle is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've never seen him at Seahawks headquarters. He
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  Speaker 2: flies out here because Seahawks coach won the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: and is being featured on Hard Knocks and then does
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  Speaker 2: an interview with him. And now he's on to the next,
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  Speaker 2: whoever else he's interviewing next for his syndicated television show
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  Speaker 2: and for online. Meanwhile, they keep milking this interview, which
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  Speaker 2: published like they aired it like two weeks ago. And
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  Speaker 2: they keep dribbling out every couple of days, different excerpts
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  Speaker 2: of it. And then this one, is clearly before the
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  Speaker 2: main interview began. We're going to talk to Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: today at noon, his regular Wednesday press conference, and you
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  Speaker 2: can bet this subject's going to come up.
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  Speaker 4: I want him to start out by saying, is this
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  Speaker 4: on the record? Just like the best thing he could
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  Speaker 4: start with.
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  Speaker 2: He might do that.
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  Speaker 3: I hope he does.
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing this for, what now, 28 years. since
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  Speaker 2: I left the army. And there is, there are a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things at play here. One, there is an
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  Speaker 2: explicit understanding that unless you declare this is off the record,
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  Speaker 2: either the interview subject or the interviewee say, well, this
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  Speaker 2: is off the record. Unless you do that, technically, yes,
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  Speaker 2: everything is on the record. And if you're speaking to
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  Speaker 2: a television journalist or anyone who's interviewing you and cameras
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  Speaker 2: are rolling, that is subject to be aired. That is
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  Speaker 2: true by letter of the journalism law.
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  Speaker 3: But, There's great areas, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And when you're just making conversation while the interview
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  Speaker 2: is getting set up and.
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  Speaker 3: He was breaking the ice and telling a funny story.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And so the context matters here. That's one thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I told Chuck this at 7 o'clock this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I've been covering Mike McDonald now for three years. I
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  Speaker 2: know all kinds of things. What y'all do as beat writers...
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  Speaker 2: covering him, no things that we have not printed or
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  Speaker 2: I've never said on the air that may or may
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  Speaker 2: not be pertinent to the football matter of the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: But I have a trust with him. And you lose
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  Speaker 2: that trust when you do things like Graham Benziger did
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  Speaker 2: or his production people that decided to put this out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're all a part of it.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't have anything at stake because they're not
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  Speaker 2: out here every day. Right.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have recourse.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. So when you have to face the music
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  Speaker 2: and be out here and deal with, in a professional setting,
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  Speaker 2: the subject that you're deciding whether to air something or
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  Speaker 2: print something, that changes the equation completely. We just met
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  Speaker 2: with Mike McDonald for an hour and a half in
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  Speaker 2: a Nashville hotel when the Seahawks were there for the
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  Speaker 2: joint practice in the preseason game in August, a month ago.
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  Speaker 2: And we're drinking beers and having a good time just
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  Speaker 2: talking about football. And we're asking him questions that are
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  Speaker 2: newsworthy questions that he's given us answers to to inform
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  Speaker 2: us about our coverage. But we didn't print any of it.
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  Speaker 2: And there's stuff that he told us that if we
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  Speaker 2: printed would be national news. But it was well understood,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody had to say, is this off the record?
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  Speaker 2: So by letter of the law, we could have printed
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  Speaker 2: and run with all this. There was something with a
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  Speaker 2: player about three weeks ago on the practice field that
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  Speaker 2: was present, and the Seahawks beat writers were out there
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning. We're allowed out there for the first
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  Speaker 2: five or ten minutes. And the rules basically are whatever
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  Speaker 2: happens in those first five or ten minutes, who's there?
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  Speaker 2: Who's not? It's fair game. You can report it. The
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  Speaker 2: rules are after the practice ends is when you can
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  Speaker 2: start putting videos of the practice beginning and report whatever
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  Speaker 2: you saw. And we saw something that Mike McDonald didn't
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  Speaker 2: want out. And we, as a beat, came back in
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  Speaker 2: the room and McDonald made it clear that he didn't
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  Speaker 2: want us to have seen it, what we saw. And we,
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  Speaker 2: as a beat, came in and I said, The risk
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  Speaker 2: is not worth the reward here. To report this before
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  Speaker 2: week one of the season and to burn your coach
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, it's not worth it.
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  Speaker 2: And the news wasn't worth it. It wasn't that big
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  Speaker 2: of a deal. And so we decided not to air it,
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  Speaker 2: print it, talk about it at all. It went unreported.
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  Speaker 2: And Mike McDonald came up to us the next day
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  Speaker 2: before practice began and walked over to us and said,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for doing me a solid. He knew that none
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  Speaker 2: of us had printed it. None of us had aired it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for doing us a solid. He trusts us. That's
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  Speaker 2: the opposite of what Graham Benzinger and his production people
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  Speaker 2: did yesterday. That's the difference between being out here every
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  Speaker 2: day and having a professional relationship and then having the
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  Speaker 2: journalism ethics to manage that relationship and to not. And
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  Speaker 2: especially in television, especially in national television, which, let's face it,
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  Speaker 2: rules the NFL. They pay the bills, $ 6 billion a
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  Speaker 2: year in television revenue. They don't have that responsibility. They
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  Speaker 2: don't have that accountability anymore. to come back the next
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  Speaker 2: day and have to face the music. When I would
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  Speaker 2: write negative things in my time as a baseball beat writer,
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  Speaker 2: I made sure I was there the next day. I
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  Speaker 2: once came in on an, off day in the Oakland
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  Speaker 2: A's on an Easter Sunday to talk to an irate
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  Speaker 2: Billy Bean, the general manager for the A's, about something
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  Speaker 2: I'd written the previous day to be accountable for what
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  Speaker 2: I wrote. And I let him air me out and
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  Speaker 2: I went back at him for what I thought was
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  Speaker 2: what I did and why I did it. And we
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  Speaker 2: kind of just had a detente about it. But the
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  Speaker 2: national people that parachute in and then leave don't have
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  Speaker 2: that personal accountability. And this is a perfect example that
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  Speaker 2: now having talked about all of this, what he actually did.
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  Speaker 2: We'll wear it the next segment. I think it's pretty funny.
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  Speaker 2: It is open source material, anything that's on the internet, right?
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  Speaker 2: And it's, we'll talk next segment about all of this,
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  Speaker 2: but Jess, I mean, you, you, you're on the sidelines.
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  Speaker 2: You see in theater things and, That would be news
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  Speaker 2: about the Washington State Cougars that Cougar fans would be
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  Speaker 2: interested in that you don't tell.
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  Speaker 3: And the opposing teams as well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So Buda Alukda last year during the Apple Cup, I
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  Speaker 4: heard him say his specific injury at that time. And
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  Speaker 4: he used to be a kook, and I did not
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  Speaker 4: like that he defected to the Huskies. And I heard
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  Speaker 4: him tell his parents, who came down to the first
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  Speaker 4: row of the stands, because I was, you know, going to...
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  Speaker 4: And I heard him say his injury, and I did
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  Speaker 4: not report that.
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  Speaker 3: And I could have. I had every right to.
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  Speaker 4: The fans could hear him if they were listening closely enough.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't, because what's.
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  Speaker 4: That going to do for me? I reported that I
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  Speaker 4: don't expect him to play the rest of this game.
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  Speaker 4: And just from what I'm seeing on the sidelines. But
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  Speaker 4: I heard exactly what he heard from the medical staff
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  Speaker 4: on the team. And I just chose not to because what?
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  Speaker 4: I just don't understand what good that would do. And
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  Speaker 4: I was the opposing team. And I still didn't do it.
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  Speaker 4: I just, I don't think that there are certain things
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  Speaker 4: that are worth it.
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  Speaker 3: And I, I mean, I've been, this is my.
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  Speaker 4: 15th season doing it and I've been in sports talk
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  Speaker 4: radio for longer than that. And I have learned on
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  Speaker 4: the road to that, you know, mistakes were made and
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  Speaker 4: I learned from them and, you know, that's good experience. And,
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  Speaker 4: and I just think that, Eventually, when you have enough
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  Speaker 4: experience and enough practice in this profession that your moral
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  Speaker 4: compass comes into range, that's kind of like the final tick.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Yes. And you're exactly right. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why you've been doing it for more than a day.
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  Speaker 2: If you didn't have that compass, the cougars wouldn't ask
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  Speaker 2: it back.
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  Speaker 4: Right. But I had some lessons to learn as well
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  Speaker 4: along my way in my first couple years.
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  Speaker 3: And I definitely learned a lot.
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  Speaker 4: And then once you have your skills, like I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: the final check, the box check is your moral compass.
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  Speaker 2: You'll hear the comments that we're talking about that sparked
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  Speaker 2: all this coming up. Jackson Smith and Jigwip. How does
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  Speaker 2: he do what he does? He now leads the NFL
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  Speaker 2: in yards.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness gracious.
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  Speaker 2: Touchdowns. We'll go deeper into his latest 100-yard game last
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  Speaker 2: weekend at Arizona, how he got so open against a
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  Speaker 2: team that was double-teaming him with a cornerback and a safety.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. Now at 11 o'clock, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk to Bram Weinstein. He is the play-by-play man
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: for the Washington Commanders. We're going to talk about his
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  Speaker 2: team before the Seahawks face the Commanders outside D.C. this week.
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  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota is a quarterback for injured Jaden Daniels. while
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  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn's managing his team's fall from the NFC title
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  Speaker 2: game two seasons ago to being in the sub-500 last
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  Speaker 2: year and now 0-2 this season. We'll talk to Bram
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  Speaker 2: Weinstein at 11 o'clock for a view on the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: opponent this week. 11.30, we'll read back your text and
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  Speaker 2: think I'm going to stay in the college ranks. Then
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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness will join me here at Seahawks headquarters, talking
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  Speaker 2: about what he's got on the show. 12 until 3.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald is talking at 12 o'clock, and then they
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  Speaker 2: practice today. 49451, your first question for the Tacoma Dodge
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  Speaker 2: text line. Your view of Mike McDonald and what he
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  Speaker 2: did with the fan social media post of Broncos training
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  Speaker 2: camp practices. There's a whole issue at hand here, beside
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  Speaker 2: the journalism ethics of it. And then practice today, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be watching one to see if Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of participation is he doing? When we are
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  Speaker 2: out there in the first few minutes of practice, we
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  Speaker 2: do see the quarterbacks throwing. They throw before stretching begins,
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  Speaker 2: and then they join the players and stretch with them.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll see if Darnold is out there for that.
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  Speaker 2: Then we'll shoot away about five or ten minutes into
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  Speaker 2: practice and won't see the actual splitting of reps. But
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  Speaker 2: they are going to share, it appears, the reps today.
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  Speaker 2: Darnold expected to practice for the first time two weeks
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  Speaker 2: to the day after he split. strained his glute, fifth
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  Speaker 2: play of the season when Draymond Jones of New England
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  Speaker 2: sacked him. This is ahead of schedule. Mike McDonald said
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  Speaker 2: it drastically has changed. The prognosis on his return has
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  Speaker 2: drastically changed in the last week or so. Remember, they
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  Speaker 2: feared it might be a hip bone injury, potentially even
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  Speaker 2: a fracture, but tests have shown it's not that. It's
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  Speaker 2: rather in his butt. The muscle, the gluteus up in
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  Speaker 2: his butt, a gluteal strain. So he's going to practice,
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  Speaker 2: and then the issue will be Jessamyn tomorrow. How does
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  Speaker 2: he feel? First time on the field in two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Does he bounce back fine and his body, everything's fine?
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  Speaker 2: And if so, I would expect he would get more
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  Speaker 2: first-team reps tomorrow. They can't just throw him and give
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  Speaker 2: him all first-team reps today in case he doesn't respond
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  Speaker 2: well tomorrow. They have to give Drew Locke some preparation
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  Speaker 2: with the game plan too. But tomorrow will be the tell,
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  Speaker 2: and if he comes back and bounces back fine, He'll
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  Speaker 2: get more workload tomorrow with the ones, and that would
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  Speaker 2: put him on track if he responds well Friday to
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  Speaker 2: be the starter on Sunday. We have talked about, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of you chimed in yesterday on the show,
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  Speaker 2: about whether he should start if he's healthy this week.
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  Speaker 2: An 0-2 team with a backup quarterback and their own quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: Drew Locke, performing brilliantly in the two games. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: top of the NFL brilliantly, 72.9%, completion percentage, second highest
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  Speaker 2: passer rating in the league. You just keep playing Locke.
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  Speaker 3: I would say yes for this week. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: the consensus.
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  Speaker 2: That seems what the fans seem with the listeners. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I would do. But also the estimate, there is
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  Speaker 2: something to be said for your franchise quarterback is your guy.
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  Speaker 2: And when he's ready to play the locker room, the
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  Speaker 2: teammates are looking to him to play. And there is
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  Speaker 2: something to be said for the dynamics of that. And
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't want a Superbowl winning franchise quarterback, healthy and
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: ready to go mothballed and sitting and watching. And, There
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: would be guys in the locker room looking at that going,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. Where's our guy? Why aren't you playing him?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: And this is no Wally Pipps situation. We're not talking
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: about a quarterback controversy at all. But we're just talking
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: about pragmatically it might make sense to have Darnold sit
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: out this game and rest one more week. But there
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: is that dynamic of he's our guy. He's your franchise
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: guy who just won you a Super Bowl. And when
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: he's ready to play, he'll play. So that's all what
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are figuring out here the next couple days.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I would probably– Just err on, okay,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: we'll give you another week.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Coming back from injury, yes. Yeah, I mean, it's not just, okay,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Drew Locke balled out. We need Sam for the rest
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: of the season.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly. Which is the same reason why you're not
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: going to trade Drew Locke, no matter what somebody would
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: throw at you, and they're not going to throw at you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: They're not going to trade him. Whether they re-sign him
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: is another story.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Right, because his price is going up, and there are
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: teams around the league who look at their quarterback situations
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and then look at what Drew Locke's doing, and it's like, uh.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks unlikely. Drew Locke, going into his age
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: 30 season, would agree to come back as a backup
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: again as a free agent after performing like he has
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: on the grand stage here these first two games. He'll
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: have game tape to go out and shop and get
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: a contract worthy of a starter somewhere, it would appear. Again,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: he's only 29 years old. It's not like he's washed
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: up and done.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like Sam signing here at 28.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: It's exactly the same.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Correct, with a very similar career arc of starting his
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: first couple of years with the Jets and then a
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: backup bouncing around teams. Yes, that is true. The other
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: thing I'm looking for today is Zach Charbonnet. Is he
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: on the field today? If he is, that means he
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: was cleared to practice and his 21-day practice window will
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: have started on the physically unable to perform list. Pup-less
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: guys still can't play until after the fourth game, but
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the rules in the NFL for pup-less players changed this
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: year and allow them to come back to practice after
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the second game of the season, which is the Exequishest ad.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So Charbonnet could be, is eligible to start practicing now.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And Mike McDonald indicated on Monday that the Seahawks do
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: want to give Charbonnet as much of a run-up past
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: week four as he can, which means if he's ready
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to go, he will practice this week. And a 21-day
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: window will open so that two of his three weeks
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: of that window would include the times he couldn't play anyway.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: And then he will have practiced two weeks before he
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: would be eligible to play for the first time week five.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: That would be the San Francisco 49ers home game. The
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Seahawks are at Washington this week. Then they come home
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: for back-to-back home games against the reeling Los Angeles Chargers, 0-2,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: who've lost to the Cardinals and Raiders. And then in
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: week five, the early rolling San Francisco 49ers come up
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to Lumen Field. And then all of a sudden, the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: week six Thursday night game, a Thursday night game after
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a Sunday at Denver. That looks a little more interesting
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: in light of yesterday. And there'll be a lot of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, Mike McDonald storylines going into that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Six game.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, that'll be fun. I can't wait for that post
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: game handshake.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Up next, Mike McDonald learns a little lesson on journalism ethics,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: specifically how rare they are today. And why he says
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Broncos coach Sean Payton accused the Seahawks of cheating. You'll
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: hear from him and what he said to Graham Benziger next.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back to Seahawks Headquarters. Greg Bell,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: the news champion. Jessamyn McIntyre back at our Elliott Bay
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Studios on 93.3 KJRFM. While we've been talking in the
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: last 20 minutes or so, news is breaking that the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Giants quarterback Jackson Dart is going to be out for
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the season because he's going to need left knee surgery
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: because of a damage to his MCL, his PCL, his
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: posterior ligament, and the meniscus. According to ESPN and NFL
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Network reports, Jackson Dart's season-ending surgery. So it's Jamin Winston
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: for now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It's Jamin's time.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Let's go. I guess. You sound pretty excited about that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just an interesting character. And I like
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: what he's done with his career, even off the field.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: He did a bunch of World Cup coverage. And, yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not a Giants fan, but I have a lot
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: of people that I know who are.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: And, okay.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I neglected to mention during the headlines that on 9.50 a.m. tonight,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the Sounders are playing at home against Real Salt Lake.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Of course, the Sounders... haven't won in, what, 13 straight
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: MLS matches. They've got ties in a row. It's like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: five ties, club record, five ties in a row. It's
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: a franchise record for winless matches now in the MLS play.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: They're in 13th place in the MLS Western Conference, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Real Salt Lake is in 12th on the playoff, outside
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of the playoff picture. Currently, Sounders tonight, that's a 6.30
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: broadcast at 9.50 a.m. Jackson Feltz, our guy, and the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Sounders crew on 9.50 a.m. Sounders home against Real Salt
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Lake Mariners at home tonight. Game two of the series
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: that is pretty much not meaning anything anymore against the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Trash Cans. See, the Mariners are five games out, five
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: games to play. Any Trash Can or Rangers win in
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: any Mariners loss and the M's are officially eliminated. The
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: only way I believe now the Mariners can make the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: playoffs is in a three-way tie between the Trash Cans,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the Rangers, and the Mariners. And that will only happen
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: if the Rangers and the Trashcans all lose the rest
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of their five games while the Mariners all win the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: remaining games, two against Houston, three at home against the Angels.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Out here at Seahawks headquarters, we're going to watch today
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: how much Sam Darnold practices. The plan is that he
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: will practice for the first time since injuring his glute.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Five plays into the season opener, September the 9th, two
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: weeks to the day of the injury. He's supposed to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: be on the practice field. The question becomes for offensive
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: coordinator Brian Fleury and Mike McDonald and the staff, how
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: do you split the practice reps? And how much do
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you still give Drew Locke as a hedge in case
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald doesn't play on Sunday at Washington? And, of course,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: how Donald responds to that tomorrow. No matter who's quarterback
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: this Sunday, he's going to be thrown to Jackson Smith
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and Jigba again because that's what you should do for
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a guy who's 100 yards receiving is standard fare. We're
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: going to talk about Jackson Smith and Jake Bennett, how
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: he keeps doing it despite the NFL's defenses double-teaming him.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in the next segment at 11 o'clock.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Bram Weinstein. He is the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: play-by-play announcer for the Washington Commanders Radio Network, and he's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: going to talk to us about the Seahawks opponent this week.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: 11.35 again, Factor Fiction, your chance to win $ 1, 000 from
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And Greg's pick today.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I am picking today. I'm going to stay in college.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: we talked in the first segment at length about the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: journalism ethics here of the Mike McDonald talk with Graham Benziger,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that it certainly appears he thought was off the record
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and wouldn't be aired. Well, this is what he said.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: We wanted you to hear exactly what McDonald said about
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton and the Broncos back from 2024, leading into
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: McDonald's very first game as a head coach for the Seahawks. Casual.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: So funny story about, uh, Sean Payton and me is
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: my first year.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I like Sean a lot.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: He, uh, I'm not his biggest. He's not my biggest fan.
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: So our first year, we played our first game. And
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: so I'm like, whatever. Fans watch. Fans will post plays
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: from training camp on Twitter. And so it's like public.
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: So we took like 100 plays from their training camp.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: We're like scouting them, you know? And like, anyways, he
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: got wind of it and he like lost him. It's
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: like middle of the season. And like, and we're, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: we won the game. And so like, and we're, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: we were in the fight, like our first year, we
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: were trying to go on. And so he called Johnny
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: basically like threatened to come out publicly and do it
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: like a whole Patriot, like spygate type of thing.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm sitting there like, Oh my God. I'm like,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: we didn't cheat.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: Like, like, You know, we thought it was a Michigan
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: thing where we had a plant and the whole thing.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: And we're like, so we had to like counter with
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: him to say like, Hey, look, if you come out
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: of this, like we're going to sue you because it's
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: not true.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And did you ever, uh, did you ever talk to him?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So he, he like, he.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: Backed down, but he was like killing John or GM. And, uh,
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: John was telling me like, dude, did you, I'm like, dude, no. Like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: what are you crazy? Like, I'm not, we're not, that's
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: not how we do business, you know? And so, uh, anyway,
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: so the season ends and he, he let it go and,
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: But it was like the Cold War. I'm going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: hit the button. I'm going to hit the button. We're
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: going to hit the button. So none of us hit
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: the button. And so then I went for a run
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: at the Combine. And so I'm literally getting out of
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: the elevator at the Marriott there in Indy. And as
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: soon as I open the door, the floor that I'm at,
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: here he comes in. And I was kind of over him.
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: And he's like, hey, coach, you know, and totally, totally
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: backed down in that moment.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, did he? I was like, oh, man, that's great.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald talking to Graham Benziger. I mean, even if
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: you don't see the visual of this setting, it obviously
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is off the record the way he was speaking and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: how he was flippant about speaking about it. All right,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a couple things about this. First of all, many, I
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: think maybe now all NFL teams have employees who monitor
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the Internet and social media. For information and footage on
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: other teams, especially during training camp, because that's the only
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: time of the NFL year fans can watch. And every
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: single person who breathes these days has a phone. And
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: so training camp, some people put Facebook Live broadcast of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: training camp practices.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I know, which the collective media is not allowed to do.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Right. And teams know this. So they have people that
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: are on the payroll whose job it is to monitor
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: and scan the Internet. to watch for these things and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: gather intel on other teams. Does Seahawks do it? Every
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: team does it. In fact, and now I know the
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: context as to why McDonald does this, but since McDonald
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: became the Seahawks coach in 2024, the team has restricted
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: fans from using their phones, pointing at the practice field
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: during the open practices of training camp. Fans can record
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the initial portions of practice, and that's it. Then they
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: make an announcement, hey, to protect our team, Protect our
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions. Put away your phones. Nothing pointed at
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the field for now for the rest of practice. And
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: it's at that point in practice that they then line
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: up in formations and they start scrimmaging.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Team employees are actually looking into the crowd. And I've
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: seen them go up into the crowd onto the berm
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: and tell people to put their phone away or you're gone.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: That happened to me at the U.S. Open when it
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: was down at– Chambers Bay, right?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Chambers Bay.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: And I didn't– I was just taking a picture and
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I got– like yelled at. And I know at Augusta, no,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: you cannot even have a phone in there.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: And I've been to several comedy shows with big acts
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: and they put your phone in phone jail when you
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: go in a lot of people. And I think that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: going to be the future of it is that you
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: just can't even bring your phone in.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So McDonald, what he did, what he said he did
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: and what Sean Payton got all bent out of shape
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: about is not Spygate. It's not what the, Patriots were
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: caught doing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: It was out there for the public.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Spygate was when the Patriots had employees in closed
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: practices filming the Bengals and whatnot. It wasn't that, and
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: it wasn't Michigan with the assistant coach who was sitting
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: on the other side stealing signs, and that wasn't publicly
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: open source material either. Now, you could say it's a
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: little bit of dirty pool to take something off the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: internet and scout your teams with it, but it is
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: out there. I mean, you and I could do it
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: if we wanted to cultivate what the Washington Commanders training
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: camp practices looked like this week before the Seahawks played them.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And don't you think the Seahawks haven't done that? They've
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: got some footage from fans from Washington Commanders training camp
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: that they might be going over a little bit. It's
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: all about chasing edges, right? And McDonald talks about it
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: all the time. And this is absolutely an edge. This
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: is a chasing of an edge that, okay, let's see
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: if we can gain any kind of competitive advantage by
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: looking at the formations that fans have broadcast. So apparently
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton in the Broncos that year didn't prohibit fans
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: from filming formations in the part of practice that was scrimmaging.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I bet they do now.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I was just going to say, I think Mike
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: McDonald saw it and then was like, okay, well.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: None of that here.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Because he was already using it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: The crackdown became more harsh years two and three training
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: camps than in year one. Year one, it was, I
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: can't even remember what the restriction was, but it came
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: much more over the top and clear in a I mean,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: just spelled out blatantly that you can't do it. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: most fans are cool with it, but there are a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: few that every practice they go into the crowd and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: start saying, hey, cut that out. You can't do that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that hard to see someone holding
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: up a phone.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: And it's on the grass permanent. They're like 50 feet
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: or less away. So that's the issue at play here.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: So did what he do, was it that bad? No.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Especially a coach in Sean Payton that is yelling about
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: bounty gate the bounty gate coach is yelling about the
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Seahawks doing open source stuff remember Sean Payton and the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Saints were paying players to knock player other opponents out
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: of the game and the NFL Greg Williams the defensive
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: coordinator for the Saints at the time got in big
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: trouble for that Sean Payton was the coach for that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: so a little bit of pot calling the kettle black
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: but it's not at all the same even to that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: situation because of the open source nature there but it
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: does it is an insight into how Mike McDonald at quote,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: chases edges, right? And that was definitely a chase edge there. Ultimately,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I see it. I'm reading it on the text line. Ultimately, yes,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: it's not a big deal, but it is interesting. It's
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: an insight to, one, journalism ethics and who applies them
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and who doesn't. It is absolutely a lesson for Mike
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: McDonald on, hey, if cameras are rolling, I'm not talking
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: about something I don't want out there because I thought
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: this was off the record and all that. It doesn't matter.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And that's a lesson Mike McDonald just learned. But the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: actual act is, to me, not a big deal. and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it'll be something for everyone to talk about before week
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: six when the Seahawks and Broncos play. Thankfully, that'll be
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: a shorter week, Thursday game after a Sunday game, so
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: the circus will be limited. Yeah. Anyway, Sean Payton's Broncos
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: are hosting the Los Angeles Rams in the Sunday night
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: game this week. You can hear that live on 93.3
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: KJFM at 515 on Sunday night. That's after the Seahawks
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: play at the Commanders.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: 10 a.m. Join me at the muckle shoot.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre and her visiting away games. I should say
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks away games host at Michael shoot casino down
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: in Auburn. Is Thomas Rawls going to be there every week?
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Every away game.
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is all energy, and I had said this
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: earlier when we were talking about it, but if you
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: go to an event and a professional athlete is there,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: it is very rare that you actually get to spend
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: time with them. Thomas gets out there and spends time
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: with everyone. So it is super fun, and we're doing
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Pajama Party this Sunday because.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Of the 10 a.m.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Kickoff. He lives out here, right? Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: He made his home here, which a lot of athletes
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: do after they're done playing. And, yeah, he's fantastic, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: he just gets so hyped up by the crowd, and
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the crowd gets hyped up for him.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: It's really fun.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Join Jessamyn McIntyre, if you want to, if you're in
• 32:47
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• 32:51
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• 32:54
  Speaker 2: in Landover, Maryland, covering it for the News Tribune up next.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigby, how did he get so open
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: on that 82-yard touchdown catch in the second play at Arizona?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And why does he continue to get open despite double
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: teams all over the field for him?
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Teams are just devoting two guys to him. As Mike
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: McDonald said after the game, he can't put three on him.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Or maybe that's next.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: You'll hear from Jackson Smith and Jigby, and we'll talk
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: about how he gets so open next. 11 o'clock, the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Washington Commanders play-by-play guy for the radio network to talk
• 33:23
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• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Athletic Center. Greg Bell, Justin McIntyre back downtown Seattle at
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Elliott Bay on 93.3 KJR FM, 11 o'clock. Grant Weinstein,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: he's the radio play-by-play announcer for the Washington Commanders to
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: talk about the Seahawks opponent this week and the fact
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: that Marcus Mariota is going to start a quarterback, the
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: veteran 33-year-old, instead of Jaden Daniels, dislocated his left elbow.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn saying yesterday he won't play. So Seahawks get
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. against the 0-2 Commanders against the 2-0
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Seahawks at 10 a.m. on Sunday. Again, if you're around,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre is going to be down at the Muckleshoot
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Casino in Auburn hosting a watch party with Thomas Rawls,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the former Seahawks.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Great prizes, by the way.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Prizes?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: What kind of prizes?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Yes. Okay, so before the game, they have Lazy Boys
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: that are sitting in the VIP section where Thomas Rawls
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: and company are hanging out, and you can win two
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: of those and a table for six. in the VIP section,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: but whoever wins can bring their favorite person there with
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: and sit in the Lazy Boys like you're in your
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: own living room watching the game with six of your
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: closest friends. And then at the end of the game,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: we do give actually away a set of Lazy Boys
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: to one lucky winner.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: That's Sunday at the Muckleshoot Casino in Auburn for the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Seahawks Watch Party. Seahawks Commanders, 10 a.m. on Sunday. Jackson
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Smith and Jacob, second play at Arizona. We saw him
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: put the head fake to the outside. It was a
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: called out-and-up route that Brian Fleury, the offensive coordinator, put
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: in for that play, and he was assuming that Will Johnson,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the left corner for the Cardinals, would do exactly what
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: he did, which is bite hard and overcommit to the out.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: But Smith and Jigba was so good with the head fake,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: he didn't even have to run a route to the outside.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be an out-and-up. It became a
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: head-and-up because he didn't even take a step outside. He
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: just moved his head and shoulders that way. And Will
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Johnson bit on it like he was trying to jump
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the out route for a pick six.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: That's just amazing body work.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Right. That was Doug Baldwin-esque. And Johnson was five yards
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: out of the play. Smith and Jigba just run straight
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: down the field. He runs with such– he had such
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: a head of steam for not having to do the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: out route part of it, the steps to the outside,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: that he got upfield so quickly that Buda Baker, the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: former Bellevue High School and University of Washington star safety–
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Was flat-footed. He didn't expect Smith and Jigba to run
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: an out-and-up that quickly because there was no out to
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the out-and-up because of how Will Johnson bit for the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: head fake. And that's how Smith and Jigba got five
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: yards clear of Buda Baker. Drew Locke waited until he
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: cleared Baker and then threw it for an 82-yard touchdown.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: That's the longest touchdown in the NFL so far this season.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba, 1,793 yards, an All-Pro last year
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: as the NFL Offensive Player of the Year, the lead
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: of the league, the eighth-best receiving seed in NFL history.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: This year he's already leading the league again. in yards
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: and he's fourth touchdown, four touchdowns through two games is
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: also tied for the league. This was him after the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: game in Arizona Sunday. It's been a minute.
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: Um, just, just opportunities and just executing, uh, drew finding
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: me doing a good job. Um, it takes all of us,
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: takes the whole team, um, to the offensive line, to, um,
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: Cooper cup doing his job, Rashid doing his job and,
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: you know, just execution at the end of the day. So, um,
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: super happy, uh, with how we went out there and
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: fought for four quarters. We're a four-quarter team. That's just
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: who we are, and to God be the glory for
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: this one.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: You and Drew haven't played a lot together, but you've
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: had a lot of success.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's five touchdowns now. What is it that
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: works between you two?
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: Man, man, it's hard to. to break it down, but
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's just something special. I mean, Drew,
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: he's a, he is a special talent and sees the
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: field very well and can make any throw. And I
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: know he's looking for me and, um, I just want
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: to be there for him. And we we've been having
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: a special connection for, for a minute now, but I'm,
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: I'm super happy the way he just came in and, um,
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: carried himself and carry this team. And, uh, it shows
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: time and time again, you know, how, how good he is.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Can you walk us through the first touchdown and how
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: wide open you were?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: Um, double move, um, double move, fake the out, you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: the corner bit. I got to watch the film. I
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: don't know if they're in cover four or cover two. Um,
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: but got a wide open look and, um, just, just ran.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: An end zone.
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: Oh man, that's, that's my hooping skills right there. That's
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: my hooping skills since, uh, since a jit, they say.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: It seems like Drew just kind of extends his arm
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: and flicks the wrist and it just is kind of effortless.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering how you kind of, how would you describe
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: his ball and just.
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: What it's like to catch it and how it's maybe
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: different from other guys?
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, like you said, he can make any throw.
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: You know, he's just a ball player and a playmaker.
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: You know, he's going to get it done however, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: whatever arm angle he has to do, whatever he has
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: to do, we know he's going to get the job done.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, super happy. twos with us.
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: You guys pulled away 24-0 in the second half.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: What changed?
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: We're a four-quarter team and we want to start fast
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: and we want to control. We want to weather the storm,
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: but we know that we're going to play hard for
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: four quarters and a lot of teams don't want to
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: do that. So that's just who we are and what
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: we come out and try to prove every game.
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: If you go back to the first drive, first quarter
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: when drew came in for sam and just kind of
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: the war about him in the huddle and what have
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: you and then now he's had this time to practice
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: be with you guys compared to like the third quarter
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: fourth quarter of of today do you see any difference
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: or any evolution from that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: Regard yeah i mean the more reps you get um
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: i think This week of practice definitely got us ready,
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: and we knew what to expect with Drew. He always
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: prepares like the one, but I'm sure it is a
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: little different coming into the week, knowing for sure you're
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: the one. I think we attacked the week. He attacked
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: the week very well to set us up for great
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: opportunities and to win. The second touchdown, I thought I
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: was getting bracketed, and then they went to cover zero,
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: blitz everybody. I knew I had the one-on-one, and Drew
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: put it in a great location for me to.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: catch the ball.
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: Jackson, the last time you had three touchdowns in a
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: game was when you and Marvin were teammates back in college.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a minute.
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so when you look back on that, you know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: what was it like being in the zone today to
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: that level, the same way that you were in that
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: Rose Bowl game against Utah?
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it was, it's awesome being in that zone,
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: putting points up for our team, and, you know, whatever,
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: whatever it takes to win, you know, I'm willing to
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: do whatever it takes, and anytime we get opportunities, you know,
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: we got to execute and, and and put points on
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: the board.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: So with the defense doing what it's doing, is it
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: easy for you guys to kind of be patient, even
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: if things aren't coming right away, just knowing they're, they're
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: keeping it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: That's like I said, that's kind of who we are.
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: Like we're, we're going to be patient and, and like
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: I said, whether the storm, if we have to, we
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: want to start early. Um, but you know, we know
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: that we're going to be here for four quarters playing,
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: you know, as hard as possible. And, um, you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: that's what gives us, gives me, and I, and I believe,
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: This team, the confidence just to know we're going to
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: go out there and win and do whatever it takes.
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: You were an X receiver a lot in the first,
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: and you're getting clouded a lot. Were you thinking, hey,
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: let me get on the other side where I can,
• 41:34
  Speaker 10: like on the third touchdown? Were you feeling like, okay,
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: I'm doing my job, they're over the top of me,
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: but were you getting antsy to maybe get somewhere else?
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I said do it. It takes some intelligence,
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: and it takes guys who are capable of doing it,
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: and we have that in the room.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. Jackson Smith and Jigba after the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: game on Sunday, his latest 100-yard game. He's had 15
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: career 100-yard receiving games. 14 of them have come since
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the beginning of last season. The three touchdowns that you
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: heard Andrew Destin of Athletic talking about the last time
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: he had three touchdowns when Marvin Harrison was his teammate
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: at Ohio State. That was the Rose Bowl of the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: second to last year in college for Jackson Smith and Jigba.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: He had 347 yards and three touchdowns for Ohio State
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: in the Rose Bowl. And that was the game that
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: got him drafted. You heard at the very end he
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: credited Brian Fleury for moving him around the formations. The
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Cardinals got outcoached there. When Fleury moved Smith and Jigba
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to other positions, to the Z receiver as a flanker
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to the tight end side, in motion to the inside
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: right before snap, in motion to the outside right before snap,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals did not do shell. They did not do
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: cloud coverage. They dropped double coverage unless he was an X.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: And that was Brian Fleury noticing that the Cardinals weren't
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: continuing their cloud and shell coverage when he moved him around,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and that's why he did that. That's a little insight
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: of why he got open for so many yards and
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: so wide open on Sunday. Bob, next, let's go to Washington,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the nation's capital about the Commanders. They're 0-2, and they
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: have a backup quarterback playing for them against the Seahawks
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Bram Weinstein of the Washington Commanders Radio Network,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the play-by-play guy, is going to join us next on
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: It's week three of the National Football League, and you're
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: home for the NFL.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Hi, welcome back to Seahawk Headquarters. Greg Bell, Justin McIntyre
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: is back at their Elliott Bay Studios in downtown Seattle.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks are going to be flying from here in
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Renton out of SeaTac on Saturday, Friday actually, for the
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: East Coast game. They leave two days early. They play
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Sunday in Landover, Maryland, where they played last November. Jaden
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Daniels got injured that night, the Washington quarterback. Marcus Mariota
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: came in. Jaden Daniels got injured last weekend in Dallas.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota is coming in. It looks like Mariota is
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: going to start on Sunday. The guy who knows all
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: about this, if in fact it's a sure thing that
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Mariota is starting, is on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline right now.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Bram Weinstein is the play-by-play announcer for the Washington Commanders
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Radio Network, and he joins us from the nation's capital area.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Good morning, good afternoon to you, sir.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Thanks for the reminders of the terrible moments of last
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: week and last year.
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Terrible. Very hospitable of me, of course. Bram, I've seen
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a couple conflicting things. Well, it looks like Mario is
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: going to start. Jane Janel is not expected to play.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, though. Dan Quinn has already
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: come out and said that Marcus Mario is starting on Sunday, correct?
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: He's starting Sunday. And then the team goes to London
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: next week to play an international game. So I doubt
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: he's playing at least the next two weeks. And frankly,
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: we don't know how long he's going to be out
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: because he's been seeing a number of specialists. And we'll
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: have more information by the end of the week about
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: what they're thinking about with timelines or procedures or not
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: procedures or braces or not wearing braces. We don't know.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: So we're kind of waiting. But we do know he's
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: not playing Sunday against the Seahawks.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: We have talked a lot about backup quarterbacks out here
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, of course, already this season because the Seahawks
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: lost Sam Donald five plays into the season, and Drew Locke,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: the veteran backup eight-year pro, has had to play the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: last two games. What kind of asset do the commanders
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: have in Marcus Mariota with the 33-year-old's experience in just
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: about every situation as a starter and backup for so
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: many systems against so many opponents?
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: You know, the experience of the leadership have been on
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: display here. He's been an incredible mentor and guide for
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Jaden for the first couple of years. And he does
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: have a wealth of experience. And he's performed pretty well
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: for this team. He's had to play a lot, obviously,
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: the last couple of years. Keep in mind, though, this
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: year is a little bit different. They changed offensive coordinators,
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: so this is a different system that they're running this year.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: And.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Mariota got injured in the first series of the first
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: preseason game and didn't practice in training camp for about
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: three to four weeks. And there was a question of
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: whether they were going to sign another quarterback just to
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: be ready for week one to have a veteran behind
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Jaden because they have a rookie seventh-round pick who's performed
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: pretty well, but they don't feel like he's ready to
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: be elevated to a number two if necessary yet. So,
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: you know, Mariota hasn't had a lot of time practicing
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: this new system. But this week's a big week for him.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: The leadership's been there, and frankly, he's performed very well.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: Teammates love him. They rally around him. You know, what's
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: happening in front of him is another story, too. So
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: this is a difficult spot, obviously, for him and the team.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: But he's done this already, as you noted. And so
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: we'll see how he performs this weekend.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: When we talked yesterday to Jory Epstein of Yahoo Sports,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: he talked about being at the Commander's Training Camp and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: talking to new offensive coordinator, David Blau and his commitment
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: to the run there. And they've got the lead back, Mr.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Corey Crosby-Mair. They've got Rashad White, the former Buccaneers lead back,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: who as a rookie ripped up the Seahawks in Munich
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a few years ago. But you mentioned the offensive line
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and its issues. How has David Blau's commitment to the run,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: do you think, taken hold? And do you see him
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: now even going more toward the run? Do you see
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Rashad White getting more than the 14 carries?
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: It's hard to tell at this point what this offense
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: is going to be about. They made, like, the change
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: in the offense was somewhat around trying to take some
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: of the weight off Jake Daniels and not have him
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: be Superman all the time. Some of it also was
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: to protect him off of what happened a year ago.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: And I think this is what's so disappointing about what
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: happened in Dallas is that was really flukish what happened.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: He had stepped on coming out of a snap and
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: just trying to brace a ball, and all of a
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: sudden he dislocates his elbow again. So it didn't even
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: come after a hit. So of all this, you know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: well-intentioned changes that the team made, he got hurt anyway. But,
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: you know, these are all the plans that they had.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: The idea was Jaden is not going to scramble as much.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Jaden is going to be a pro first quarterback. They're
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: going to get him under center to hopefully unleash a
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: downfield passing game. And now that he's hurt again, it's
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: kind of hard to know where they're going to go.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: And frankly, in the first couple of weeks, They were
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: down double digits in the first half against both teams.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, the offense looked a heck
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: of a lot like it did under Cliff Kingsbury, where
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: he's in the gun all the time. They're going up tempo.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: He rushed for 70 yards in the first half, not
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: on design plays, but scrambles. So it felt a lot
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: more akin to what we saw the first couple of years.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: So it's hard to answer that question. And moving forward,
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: it's even harder because I don't know how they're going
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: to think about it with Mariota under center.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Tell us, Brant Weinstein, the Washington Commanders, play-by-play voice of
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: the radio network there, talking to us on the Beacon
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Plumbing Hotline from the D.C. area, the Beltway. Tell us
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: about the running back situation, because on paper it would
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: seem to me Rashad White, the more experienced back... the
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: former Tampa Bay lead back, could be the number one
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: there in Washington, but it's Ja'Cory Crosby-Merritt, second-year guy, seventh-round
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: pick a couple years ago for Washington. He went to
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: three schools in college, Alabama State, New Mexico, and Arizona.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Is he the clear number one? Could you see White
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: eventually taking over, maybe doing a shared 101A there?
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Well, it's 1-1A, but White does not have the explosion
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: of Krosny there. He is by far, and not close,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: the most explosive running back, specifically running between the tackles.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: He is not a finished product. He doesn't catch the
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: ball out of the backfield like White does. And they've
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: been working on him to become a more well-rounded running
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: back in pass protection. But when it comes to just
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: being a pure running back and running the ball, He's
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: an explosive, explosive player. Go look at his numbers from
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: a year ago where he played, I don't know, 40%
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: to 50% of his team's stats, and he had 800
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: yards watching eight touchdowns. I think if he develops, he
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: could end up being a very, very good number one.
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: And White was brought in really mainly to be kind
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: of 1A and the third down back. His real great
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: trait is the screen game. That is something that Washington's
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: been trying to find an answer to since an injury
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: to Austin Eckler last year. And so I still think
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: the lead back is Kosti Merritt, and I don't even
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: think it's really close, actually.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that. Brad Weinstein, play-by-play announcer for
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders, joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: before the Seahawks head to Landover, Maryland, and play the
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Washington Commanders 0-2, Seahawks 2-0, Sunday, 10 a.m., Bram, how
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: is Dan Quinn handling this? He had a meteoric start
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: with Washington. Gets him to within one game of the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. They lose the NFC Championship game two seasons
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: ago at Philadelphia. Then the sub-500 season, losing their franchise
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: quarterback last year. And now an 0-2 start here. How
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: have you noticed him handling this, weathering this, and anything
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: different about him?
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been tough. I think it's the injuries, really,
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: that has everybody kind of down. I mean, like... The
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: schedule is at Philly, at Dallas. We've been talking for months, like, oh,
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: you know what? Even in the best of circumstances, you
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: could end up 0-2 in that situation with Seattle coming in.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: The schedule being as hard as it was, was a
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: massive storyline coming in, and then throw in their best
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: offensive lineman gets hurt in camp. Their quarterback gets hurt
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: in Week 2. One of their depth and potential starters
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: down the road on the defensive line, he got hurt.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: He's out for at least half the year. So they've
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: been hit with the injury bug. Last year's kind of
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: a long story. So they go 12-5. It was a surprise.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: It was lightning in a bottle. James Daniels had, I
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: would argue, the best season any rookie quarterback has ever had.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: This team had not won two road playoff games in
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: any single postseason ever until that year. But they were
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: an older, older team. And, you know, the free agency
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: class wasn't exactly what they needed or wanted. And so
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: they chose to run it back. The oldest team in
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: the league. And then they were just beset by injuries
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: across the board. They were the most injured team in
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: the NFL, including the quarterback who played seven games and
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: only finished four of them. So, you know, they lost him.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: They lost Terry McLaurin for the majority of the season.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: They lost their four best defensive ends. Like, it was...
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: They just got riddled with injuries, and that's how it
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: adds up to 5-12. They turn around. They spend a
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: ton of money specifically on defense. They bring in a
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: couple of other offensive weapons, namely Stephon Diggs, Chigurh Conquo,
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: and everything at camp is looking pretty good. You know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: like everything's kind of coming along. They got new systems
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: coming along, and the injuries just started happening immediately. And
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: so none of us were, like, sweating that they lost
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: in Philadelphia in Week 1 in a close game they
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: easily could have won. But now, 0-2, and staring down
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: the prospect of, we don't know how long Jay's going
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: to be out, with injuries riddled across the offensive line suddenly,
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: and one of their starting safeties is out for who
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: knows how long he has an internal injury. Like, it's really,
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: they have been bit by the injury bug like a
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: team I haven't seen in a while, and it's adding
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: up to, because we have a brutal six, eight weeks here,
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: they're going to have to cobble something together and kind
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: of steal a couple of games one way or the other. Otherwise,
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: this season, they're going to be a giant hole by
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: the time that Jaden's able to come back.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Bram, you had Bobby Wagner there for a couple seasons
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: with Dan Quinn, his old Seahawks defensive coordinator from the
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: first Super Bowl years of the Legion of Boom days.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: What was the Bobby Wagner experience there for you and
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: those around the commanders? And we know him out in
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Seattle and what a huge pillar he was in the
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: community and the locker room, a legend, a Hall of Famer.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: What was Bobby Wagner like for the commanders and the
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: community there?
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: He was awesome.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: He was a leader. You know, you see why he's
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: going to end up in the Hall of Fame. The
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: preparation there, even at his age. You know, his age
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: caught up to him with his speed. I think that's
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: probably the biggest reason why he's not playing right now is,
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: you know, the speed has gone a little bit from him.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: And he was getting picked on in the passing game
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: specifically when they could match up a running back on him.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: It became a problem a year ago. But from a
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: leadership perspective, fantastic. He had basically befriended Jaden Lillard. They
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: were the first in the building together in that rookie year.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: Jaden will credit a lot of mentorship to him as
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: part of the reason why he had the season he
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: had as a rookie. You know, I don't know what
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: he's going to do with his post-football career. I think
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: he could do just about anything. I think he could
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: be a politician if he wanted to be. I think
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: he could be a coach. I think he could be
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: a business leader. It seems like that's the direction he's going.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: I know he's in sports ownership now. He was really
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: fantastic defensively. In a situation like this, what's going on
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: early in the year, I wish he was around, frankly,
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: because I think they need some calming voices right now
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: because this one feels like, oh, my God, here we
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: go again with all the injuries.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Bram Weinstein, the radio play-by-play guy for the Washington Commanders,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: kind enough to join us. Thank you, sir. I know
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: you're busy back there on the East Coast, and it's
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the middle of the afternoon of a game week for you.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the call. I'll be in the stadium with you
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Thanks for joining us.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: All right, have a nice flight out east. Appreciate it.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: I shall. Thank you. Bram Weinstein, Washington Commanders, play-by-play guy. Man, Jessamyn,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: he makes it sound like the Commanders are in all
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: kinds of straits right now. I should have told him
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: to tell Dan Quinn that Jessamyn McIntyre says hi, her
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: old friend. And Jessamyn's father, of course, used to coach
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: with Dan Quinn. But, yeah, you heard Bram talk about
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota starting for the indefinite future. about how they knew,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: the commanders knew the schedule was tough coming into this,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: and now they've had problems at both their offensive line,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: they lose their starting center, they lose their starting quarterback,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: and this new offense that David Blau is trying to
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: put in as the first-year offensive coordinator has not really
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: taken hold because two of the main cogs of it
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: are missing. And these are injuries they've had for two
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: seasons now, and.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: This really tells me that they could start Drew Locke
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: on Sunday and should be able to win this game
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: the way it sounds like the commanders are in right now.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, and that's someone who is the voice of
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: the team, right? So, I mean, he did not sugarcoat
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: anything that they're dealing with right now. I just don't
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: think that they're going to have a good time. on Sunday,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: especially with the way the Seahawks have started, the way
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: that they played with Drew Locke at.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: The helm and didn't really miss a beat at all.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: But this league is so, the margin is so thin
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: that all it would take would be a turnover in
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Seattle's own end or an injury or what have you.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: There can always be some pivotal development that can change
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: a game that should be lopsided or you would think
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: would be lopsided into an upset. But we've talked about this.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Under Mike McDonald, particularly the last two years, and the
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: proof's in the pudding of 12 consecutive wins, a franchise record.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: They've won, what, 19 of the last 22 games. They're
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: kind of good. They win games like this. Yeah, they're good.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: And they win games. They don't give games away like this.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: How many times do we see the Seahawks lose to
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Chase Daniel or Colt McCoy, even when some of their
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: better years under Pete Carroll? Well, Mike McDonald's team does
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: not do that.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: No, and they also grind it out. And I really
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: like that. So early in the game, you're kind of like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: those second half adjustments.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And the just piling on of physicality and run plays
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: and defense attacking. And by the third and fourth quarter,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: they try to break the will and wear down physically
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: and mentally the teams. I mean, the Cardinals Sunday looked
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: like they were done playing in the middle of third quarter.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: It looked like they wanted a running clock and get
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: out of there. they were non-competitive in the second half.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: They came 44 yards on 14 plays in the second
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: half and allowed a 16-play, 10-and-a-half-minute drive from the Seahawks.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Their defense just wilted. And you're right. A lot of
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Seahawks games under Mike McDonald start out of, uh-oh, they're
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: having trouble.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: It's just chess. It's chess.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: He knows how to play.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, he does.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, how impressed are you with Brian Flory as well?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I have been because of the in-game adjustments. Clint Kubiak
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: was very, very good at playing. designing, play calling, game planning.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: We didn't see as many in-game adjustments last year, frankly,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: because they didn't have to adjust to much.
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: They are adjusting on the fly like the Smith and Jig,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: but with the shell coverage, the cloud coverage in Arizona. Okay,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: they're going to double team him when he's an X.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Let's kick him out of X. Let's make him a Z.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Let's put him in the slot. Let's put him in
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: motion and see how the Cardinals react to that. And
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: they didn't. They didn't move their cloud coverage with Smith
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: and Jigba. When he wasn't an X, he didn't get
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: two defenders devoted to him, and the result was 155
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: yards and three touchdowns. I mean, the second touchdown, you
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: heard Smith and Jigba in the last segment talk about it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: The second touchdown was a zero blitz with nobody in
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: the center of the field. There was no cloud coverage there.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: It was Smith and Jigba or bust. And they were
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: counting on getting to the quarterback before Drew Locke could
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: even find Smith and Jigba with nobody in the center
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: of the field. And, of course, he didn't. They didn't.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: And that touchdown. So, yeah, Brian Fleury has been impressive
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: in his in-game adjustments. He's been unimpressive to a lot
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: of people about, for instance, running four plays at first
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: and goal at the one or first and goal at
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: the six and fourth and goal at the one, bringing
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: seven offensive linemen in, including Oluwetimi as a fullback on
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: the play that Emmanuel Wilson got stuffed in the hole.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: so there are some that have issues with some of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: those play callings, but the adjustment-wise, the players are saying
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: that they're really impressed with the new offensive coordinator. There
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: are only two games in. There'll be challenges, including from
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: San Francisco, primarily in Week 5, but this weekend, Week 3,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: it would appear is a game the Seahawks should win,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: and they have won games they should win over the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: last two seasons. 49451 on the Tacoma Dodge text line.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Your feelings about the Drew Locke versus Sam Darnold. Do
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: you play Sam Darnold this week? Do you just rest
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: him out of ultra-conservatism because of how Locke is played
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and because of how defense is playing for Seattle? Your
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: opinions on that. We'll read those back next. Any talkbacks,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: go to the iHeartRadio app or 933KJR. com. We'll play those
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: back if they're 30 seconds or fewer. Jessamyn loves her talkbacks.
• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: My take is that Sam is 100% without a doubt healthy.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: You play him.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: Washington is decimated by injuries, like.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: You guys just said.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: You got a chance to get a couple get-right games
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 8: before the San Francisco game. Be nice to get a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: couple games under Sam's belt. I know Drew's been playing well,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: but Sam's our guy.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: Hey guys, Jerry DiPoto here, your favorite GM.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: I think the fan base owes.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: Us a thank you, and I think we're doing them
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: a favor by doing iPad-only ball. We'll continue to strictly
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: go off analytics with no feel for the game, and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: I'm excited to fire Dan Wilson and augment and bring
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: in another puppet of mine to read an iPad. It's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: a very tough job to look at a computer, but
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: that's the only way we'll do it, and we'll continue
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: to do it.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 11: And you're welcome, fans.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: That 54% will live forever, won't it?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing that is a little striking is this year.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: Because you'd be fine with that.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: It's a valid question on who they're going to get
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: as manager. Because the league, they know. They've seen Scott Service,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: with no experience, become a manager under Jerry DiPoto for
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: nine years. Then he was replaced in the middle of
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: the season by Dan Wilson, who had no managerial experience.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: But Maniacta in-house is seeing it up close how they
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: deal with it and play iPad ball and the analytics-based.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I don't see how you're going to get a Joe Madden.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if Maniacta would take the job
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: at this point.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: I think seeing maybe the stress on Dan Wilson's face
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: might contribute to his decision.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, we got one more that just came in. So
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: the reason you don't trade Drew Locke is one name.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: Earl Morrill.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Tell people who Earl Morrill was. Yeah, Earl Morrill was
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: the backup quarterback to Johnny Unitas. And Earl Morrill was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: like 40 years old and came into games with the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Colts when Unitas got hurt. This was in the 60s.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: And would win games out of nowhere after not playing
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: for months because he was just such a sage veteran.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Earl Morrill came in in this... Well, Earl Morrill started,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, if I got my facts right,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Earl Morrill started Super Bowl III because Johnny Unitas had
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: been ineffective and injured. And Unitas, at the age of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: some 40-some, came in late in the game. I was
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: trying to be a knight on a white horse against
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: the Jets in Super Bowl III and tried to avert
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: the biggest upset at the time in Super Bowl history,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: and he couldn't do it. But Earl Morrill was the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: quarterback who, yeah, a trusted backup. Now, this is, of course,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: before free agency and all that. Sure.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: But, yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Earl Morrill. Man, that's a throwback reference. Someone from my
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: era and even before my era.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: The second overall pick?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: It's worth saying again, you don't trade Duloc because that's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: an asset you have that no NFL team has. You
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: have an advantage. A team that chases edges, that's an
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: edge you've already chased down and won with. You've got
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: a backup quarterback that can win. Don't lose him.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: And figured out how to afford it and also keep him.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: A couple of you on the text line bringing up that.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: 206 says, don't play Sam Donald. Trade Drew Locke and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: play Jalen Milrow? Okay, I wrote that because the morning
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: show is still glute hurt about how their trade Drew
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Locke trade blew up.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I just wouldn't.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: I would never trade him and see what the salary
• 1:05:26
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  Speaker 2: That is ridiculous. That's not a nothing. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: I agree. The 425 brings up something that about a
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  Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. I think Dave Pearson
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  Speaker 2: So many people on the text line think if McDonald
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  Speaker 2: How are you? I'm swell. Thank you. You're a journalist.
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  Speaker 11: Without hearing from Mike McDonald yet. Which we will in
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 11: got the first call at 5 or 6 o'clock at night,
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  Speaker 11: at 11 o'clock. It would have been the top one,
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  Speaker 11: just different now with social media, with people that have
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  Speaker 11: zero training in media. whether it be journalism or otherwise.
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  Speaker 11: No thought of ramifications or, you know, what the end
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  Speaker 11: this and it's wrong or if it just wasn't right
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  Speaker 11: it's just a different world. And listen, the world changes.
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  Speaker 2: It evolves.
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  Speaker 11: I'm not saying good or bad. It's different. But you're
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  Speaker 11: a guy he probably never met before.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure why he let him into his house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was funny.
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  Speaker 11: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: That they actually had spent the time to collect 100
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  Speaker 11: Well, and that's why when you come out to training
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  Speaker 2: And we would love to be able to show you
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 11: to ask them for help. I can't just go rogue.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't burn people you've got to work with
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  Speaker 2: the next day. No, but this guy doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: work with anyone the next day. What do you got today?
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  Speaker 11: We've got a lot.
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  Speaker 2: A.J.
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  Speaker 11: Barner, as I mentioned, up top of the show, or
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 11: close to it or so, so we'll get the Seahawks
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 11: tied in in here. We'll check in with Stuart Mandel,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 11: weekly visit, talking all things college football. Man, there's a
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 11: lot going on. We'll get to the NIL story he wrote, too,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 11: about where Washington ranks and what that means. Yes, that
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 11: was interesting. So we'll get to that coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Near the bottom of the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, at 2 o'clock, and then Corbin's swinging by at
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 11: 2 o'clock. So we've got a busy show.
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  Speaker 2: Lots to come.
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  Speaker 11: And we'll hear whatever you guys ask Mike McDonald about, too.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, and the Graham-Benziger thing will come up. Beautiful. Ian's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: up next from 12 until 3. He'll have Factor Fiction
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: at 2.35. Thanks for hanging on the glitch on Factor Fiction.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you got a chance to resubmit to get
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  Speaker 2: it in. Is up next. Jessamyn and I thank you.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do it again tomorrow. I'll be here at Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: again tomorrow. Off to talk to Mike McDonald now. The
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  Speaker 2: end's next on 93.3 KJRFM.